The Eric Metaxas Show - Mark Hancock and KrisAnne Hall

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Eric hit radio row at NRB and interviewed Mark Hancock of Trail Life USA, plus he discussed the constitution with KrisAnne Hall

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And now here's your Ralph Cramden of the Airways, Eric Mat, Texas. Hey there, folks. I'm at the NRB in Nashville, and I get to talk to all kinds of people. For example, right now sitting next to me, none other than the man behind Trail Life USA, which is a non-evil alternative to the Boy Scouts. Mark Hancock, welcome. I love that non-evil alternative to the evil boy scouts. Well, it is interesting because some people know about this. I had Patty.

Garibati. Gerbett. Her husband is sitting right here. Pat and Patty from Cincinnati talking about the alternative to the Girl Scouts, which has gone over to the dark side. You, Mark Hancock, have been on this program before. You're behind Tray Life USA. which really is such a delightful organization.

I didn't even know that we were going to talk today because I was actually thinking while I was talking to Patty about heritage girls. What is it called American Heritage Girls? How wonderful that when things go wrong, people rise up to do something that is right. And so what led you to start Trail Life USA? Yeah, well, that's a great question.

I didn't actually start it. About 300 volunteers across the country. Ten years ago, it was clear that the Boy Scouts were losing their way, that they're beginning to abandon some of their more traditional values. About 300 volunteers got together, and we started talking about what would it look like to start something that restored some of the values of Boy Scouts that they were leaving, and then also added the Christ-centered focus and the boy focus, where we actually believe that boys and girls are different. What? Yeah, I know. Hey, hey. This is a family program.

You can't say controversial stuff like that. What are you crazy? You want to get me canceled? Boys and girls are different. Oh, wait a minute. I forgot. That's true. Continue.

It is true. I'm glad I can say it here. I can't say it everywhere. Can you imagine that we're living? I mean, you want to know how, it's almost like people kind of think like, hey, how bad can can things get? They can get so bad that you'll say that there's a difference between boys and girls and people look at you like you can't say that.

That's how insane. things are, and we have to reassert the basics. One plus one equals two. Boys and girls are different. So you were just saying that even that is a fundamental value in Trail Life, USA, because it has been taken out as a concept in the Boy Scouts. They're suddenly letting girls in. They're suddenly uncomfortable with the idea that there's something about, you know,

boys being boys. Yeah. And it's really shocking because when you look at the statistics, the results of this kind of new look at what boys and girls is really hurting boys. They're like the canaries in the coal mine, and they're suffering for it. They're falling off their purchase. They're now twice as likely to be a special education three times more likely than ADHD. They've fallen behind girls in every single academic category. It's hurting boys.

And so in Trailoff USA, we're restoring the male-centric model of how to turn boys into good, strong, godly men. good, strong, godly men. Now, you know, the Boy Scouts, when was the Boy Scouts founded? Because they were founded on all these ideas, and they drifted and drifted and drifted, until they've now rejected everything they once stood for. Yeah, well, they were founded in a culture that it was assumed. I mean, at the founder of Boy Scouts, Lord Baden Powell said that scouting is nothing more than applied Christianity.

He knew that. But he, and so it was founded in a Christian culture where the assumption was, well, we're an organization of values, so we must be Christian. but of course that's been lost over time, and Boy Scouts is running as fast as they can from their association. I love that idea that once upon a time, it was understood that scouting was applied Christianity. First of all, even the idea of applying Christianity,

we're supposed to live out our faith. What does that mean, right? What does it mean to young men to be a Christian? Well, scouting once was the answer to that to help Christian young men develop their characters. And, of course, that's all gone by the way. said, but you guys have created Trail Life USA. When did that start up?

And how did that start up? We just celebrated our 10th anniversary, and we started in response to the Boy Scouts, kind of abandoning this space. And we knew that a lot of churches that were chartering Boy Scout troops, we're going to need an alternative because the Boy Scouts is contrary to a lot of biblical views. And that creates a dilemma for churches that are chartering an organization that doesn't agree with their fact. In fact, it threatens their religious standing because they're associated with a lot.

with an organization that doesn't agree with their views. So we knew something was going to have to be done. So about 300 volunteers across the country got together and formed this idea. We started on January 1st, 2014. Now we've grown to over 55,000 members, or in all 50 states. We have 1,200 churches that are chartering Trailf USA troops. I love this. I absolutely love it.

Now, the website is traillifeUSA.com. TrailLifeUSA.com. So you said you're in all 50 states. There are only 50 states. Therefore, you're in all the states, which is wonderful. And you said there are, how many members? 55,000 is our current enrollment. It's exciting.

I think there are people listening to this program right now who didn't know about Trail Life USA, and it's one of the reasons it's a joy for me to get to do this program to tell people about all the good stuff that's happening. How did you find yourself at the head of Trail Life USA? What were you doing before? Well, I started running an advertising agency right out of college, ran that for about 15 years. Then I went into a mental health counseling. I was a marriage, family therapist, mental health counselor,

traveled around the world, putting together evangelistic campaigns. I kind of was doing a number of things. But I was in Boy Scouts, or my sons were in Boy Scouts. I was never a member of Boy Scouts. But when this decision came about, reached out to a number of organizations, including American Heritage Girls, and said, what are you going to do about this? And so somehow I got swept up in this movement by asking that question

and ended up in Louisville, Kentucky, where 50 of us gathered to talk about the idea of what this would look like. And then 68 days later, we had our inaugural convention here in Nashville, had 1,200 people, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, and 100 women from 44 states show up. Governor Mike Huckabee was our keynote address, and that began the movement. Three months later, we launched on January 1st with about 500 troops in line. It's amazing that it's so recent. I mean, you guys have not been, you know, 10 years is nothing, right?

And yet now you have representation, so to speak, all 50 states. How many chapters or what do you call them? Troops. How many are there? Troops, yeah, we call them troops. They're over 1,200. 1,200. So if people go to TrailLifeUSA.com, they can see, I guess, where they can get involved or they can get their kids involved.

There's a tab there that says Get Connected. You click on that shows you a map of the United States. You can put on your zip code, and it'll show you the troops that are nearby, and you can click a button to connect with a local troop and ask them how you can get involved. Or I assume people can start a troop if there is nothing around them. Yeah, we've got a 10-year goal of putting a troop within 90% of American boys, within 30 miles of 90% of American boys.

That's our 10-year plan. So we're continuing to start troops every day and just trying to fill in those gaps, because we want every boy to have the opportunity to be part of a job. trail life trip. Every adult in trail life signs a statement of faith and agrees to adhere to it, statement of values, talking about things like human sexuality and what it means to be a man and what it means

to be a woman. All of our adults sign that, but boys of any faith or no faith at all are welcome to join Trail Life because we want them in that environment where they're surrounded by godly men who are helping them to mature. Well, it's just such a wonderful thing, and I can't help but think that the Boy Scouts is dying because how can they, if they've turned their back on their core values that once made them, you know, something good,

that less and less fewer and fewer people would be interested in bother. Why would you send your son to the Boy Scouts at this point? Yeah, no, it's kind of, other than the tradition, and certainly there's generations of scouts who are still very loyal to that, and I understand that piece, but it is hard to say it just isn't the organization it used to be. Well, yeah, that's putting it mildly. I mean, it's just amazing to me that they would just be unable to assert the most basic things that made them who they are. Yeah, yeah.

Well, you remember New Coke when they came out and they changed their flavor, what they did to themselves there. It's like Boy Scouts decided they needed to reinvent themselves. Yeah. Boys were some kind of social disease that needed to be eradicated. They were going to come out and make themselves different. And it's just shocking because the people who were putting their sons in Boy Scouts, that's not what they wanted. They'd like the 100-year-old organization. They gave us presidents and senators and astronauts and civic leaders.

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It's heartbreaking. But it's beautiful to think. that Trail Life USA has risen up and that you are in 50 states. And so there are people listening right now who are thinking, I didn't know about that. Let me look this up. Yes, folks, look it up. TrailLifeusA.com. Check it out, check it out.

It's a wonderful thing. Support it, get involved. TrailLifeUSA.com. So I have something in front of me here, a piece of paper that it says on the back of it, Trail Life USA, six essential concepts of a Christian worldview. And then on the front, Trail Life USA, and it's proof. process for growing boys into godly men. So this is really a template for the basics of who you guys are. It really is. After about eight years being around, we started looking at what is it that's

working in Trailup? How are we able to create such great turnarounds and boys and help dads connect with their sons and find boys who don't have dads, give them a place where they can grow and become a godly man or even men who are joining our organization because they like the brotherhood of Trailerland. So what's the magic that's going on there? And working with Barner, we discovered some real challenges that boys are having, ones that they're unguided. You know, one in four of boys now doesn't have a father in the household. 76% of public school teachers are female, 80-something percent of Sunday school teachers are female. So girls have these wonderful role models, you know, from a single mom was just killing it to pull something like that

together. But boys are lacking these sort of role models. So in Traill-F USA, we restore this by having having godly men in the organization, many of them who don't even have a son in the program, but they're there because they consider the next generation something of value to pour themselves into. So we provide that guidance for boys that's been so lacking. And the key, I mean, I see this in the notes here, but answering the question, what does it mean to be a man? For most of us, I was once a boy, and when you're a boy, you're looking for guidance and leadership. And I remember in my life, I had my father and I had my Uncle Joe.

I write about him in my book, Fish Out of Water. And you don't realize it at the time. But these men are showing you by being in your life what it means to be a man. And at the time, you don't realize it. You just think, this is, you know, this is who is in front of me. And I'm learning just by hanging around with them and seeing how they operate, how they treat women, how they, you know, are they faithful, you know, to put food on the table? Are they hard workers?

Are they sacrificing for their families? You know, you just learn by osmosis. It's not like you learn out of a book, but by being around people, you learn their values. Even the father of my dearest friend, John Tomanio, how much time I spent hanging out with him. And you realize that that's what makes you who you are. You're formed by these people,

and boys desperately need that. obviously that's that's a big part of what trail life USA does is it provides uh you know as we put it godly influences uh it's uh there's there's really nothing more important to the development of young men than having older men in their lives so that's that's beautiful um you so the first thing it says boys are unguided uh the second is boys are ungrounded boys are unappreciated boys are uninspired. So talk about how Trail Life answers these issues. Yeah, well, boys are in Grotoners Society. You know, 58% of Americans no longer believe that God in the Bible is a source of moral authority. So how in the world are we going to talk to boys

about right and wrong or good and bad if there's no foundation for truth? And so in Trail Life, USA, we restore that foundation of truth. We say the Bible is the Word of God. This is truth, boys. There is such thing as good. There is evil. There is right. There is wrong. And from that foundation, talk about those things in a culture where very few people are hanging on to those sorts of absolute truths. And boys desperately need, they love to know the boundaries. They like to know the rules, like to know how the game is played, what's fair, when do I win, they want to know these things.

And the Word of God provides those sort of foundational truths that says, this is good and this is bad. So we're restoring that through Trail-F USA. Yeah, and because if you don't give clear guidance, clear boundaries, rules, people are just naturally confused. I mean, if you're getting mixed signals, I mean, you know, and this happens in churches, right, churches that are not clear about stuff, you get these mixed signals. So you start thinking, well, who's going to tell me what's right and wrong? Is there right and wrong?

And I'm just kind of kind of drift where I drift. And usually, and it happened to me before I was born again in my mid-20s, you drift in really wrong directions. Because you don't, you're not really clear. need clarity. We need people to speak clearly. We need in churches and parents. But obviously, Trail Life USA, you're providing that because there are many boys out there that they're not getting this. They maybe don't have a father figure in the home. Boys are unappreciated. That's another one. What do you say about that? What do you mean? Yeah, well, in this kind of gender brewing culture, boys are unsure of who it is that they are, other than they know. They know.

that they somehow are being shamed at every turn. You know, it's popular and it's okay to lift up girls and say, hey, you're strong, you can do whatever it is that you want. But we don't hear that message for boys. It's so stupid. It's so unbelievable. I wrote a book called Seven Men, and then I wrote a book called Seven Women, then I wrote a book called Seven More Men.

When you look at the lives of these heroes that I've written about, it gives you a clear sense of that this man was leaning into. to being a man. Like it mattered that he was a man. His greatness comes innately out of being a good man. It's not just being a good person. There's something about that. The same thing with the women in seven women, the women are great, and it has to do with them being women. The idea that we would knock out those ideas, that the fundamental division between men and women that God has created us this way, it really undermines everything. And it's, it's, it's, it's, I guess, how do I put it?

You know, you talk about getting our views from the Bible. The Bible says that God created us in his image, male and female. And we've lost the idea that there's something sacred about that. It's utterly sacred. So boys should be told you're made in the image of God. He chose to make you a man. Yeah. And not a woman.

Now, a woman is special in another way, but God made you to be a man. man, and that is inherently beautiful and glorious. And that message is not coming out of the culture. And it's vital because it's true. Let's face it, it is true. And so whatever God made you to be, you should celebrate that, rejoice in that. But we're getting this message, obviously, that, you know, first of all, people don't even believe in God. And so they're saying, like, nobody made you.

You're just whatever. And therefore, you can even choose what you want to be, which couldn't possibly be more confusing. Yeah. It's just so demonic. so confusing. Well, biologically, psychologically, developmentally, any legitimate science speaks the difference between boys and girls. And we're discounting that for boys as if there's some kind of social disease, like I said, that needs to be eradicated.

Like boys are a defective girl because you can't sit still, be quiet, pay attention. There's something wrong with you and we've got to medicate you. Boys are being constantly shamed. Men are too. We live in a culture shaming men and boys. And we're not shaming them. We're reminding them of who they are. And that is so critical in life of boy to have an idea.

idea of who it is that he is, what his, what image he is created behind and what it is that he's capable. And it's obvious that, you know, to some extent, God created men to be warriors. There's something beautiful about that. Warriors for what is the question, right? Warriors for goodness. Warriors to protect the innocent. And we've always needed warriors, whether we're actually, you know, involved in a war, fighting against vicious enemies, or just in our communities, to have that spirit that I'm here to protect, you know, those who can't protect themselves. I'm here to be strong for those who aren't strong. There's something so beautiful about that, something self-sacrificial that God put into men.

But it has to be inspired. It has to be called out of them. The last one is boys are uninspired. We've only got a minute here. But talk about that for a moment. Yeah, boys are driven by risk and competition. If there's not something at stake, it's hard for them to get involved. Which is why we have more young men living at home since we started counting on

of the 60s. We're not inspiring them with purpose, and we're giving trophies to everybody. So you run around the soccer field for 45 minutes and score a couple goals, and you come back, and the kid who stood there counting ants gets the same trophy you got. That is uninspiring for boys. And so by keeping

score, by restoring this sort of thing, we have a robust awards program, a highest award is called the Freedom Award, which is an amazing. You ever run into a freedom arrangement, you have met a young man who has really accomplished something. So we're restoring this sort of thing that says, listen, We're going to give you an award, but you're going to have to earn it.

You're going to have to work for it. And that is inspiring boys that's helping them understand risk and competition, reward for working hard. Failure is okay. Failure is a part of life. If I fail, I don't have to run home and live in the basement of my mom. I just get back up and I try it again. So we're restoring this inspiration from young men to create kind of generation that will storm the beach of Normandy to free the world of tyranny or get on top of a rocket and go to another planet or cross an uncharted ocean, giving them that sort of risk. competition exposure to that in a safe way, but letting them know you're capable of doing more

than you think you are. And when you do, there's a reward there. And if you fail, you know what? You get up and you try again. This is so terrific. Boys are missing. I'm sorry we're at a time, but I will just close by saying thank you, not just to you, Mark Hancock, but to everybody behind TrailLife USA. Folks, you've got to check it out. Trailifeusa.com. TrailLifeusa.com. Mark, thank you. Hey folks, there's nothing worse than hearing about people living in pain, which is why I want to tell you about Keith from Washington and his relief factor story. After years of activity from college football to running a martial art studio at age 51, Keith's body felt like it was wearing out. So he gave relief factor a try. Keith says he now has little to no pain in his knees and highly reduced neck pain.

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States Constitution, among other things. Chris Ann Hall, welcome. Thank you so much. It is really a pleasure to be here, so I want to thank you for your time. Well, I want to thank Nancy Hanson, who's sitting right here, for introducing us. Because I, listen, I have a passion for this country. Yes. And we couldn't have a country if we didn't have the U.S. Constitution.

Right. And there are a number of things that the founders put in place in the Constitution, which it seems otherworldly that they were able to create a document that 250 years, well, not quite, but that over 200 years later, we're still, in a sense, finding things in it that are helping us with problems we have right now. And that's part of what you bring to the conversation. So let's talk about that. Well, yeah. So it's important. Just like studying the Bible or anything, context is very, very important. And so, when, you're a lot of, you know, when we fail to teach the Constitution's history, which actually began from a documentary, a documented perspective in the year 1041, when you fail to teach that history that brought us to 1783, you really lose the understanding that everything within our Constitution, our Declaration and Penance, our Bill of Rights are all products of wisdom learned over history.

Now, I have to ask you, I can go back as far as the Magna Carta in 1215 at Runnymede. Right. 1041. Yes. What happens in 1041? Well, what's very interesting is runnymede would have never happened without 1041. So in 1041, the Anglo-Saxons took back before it was formerly called England. It was called Angoland.

They took back the rule of the local rule of the people from the Danes, and they appointed a man named Ethelred to be king. I've heard of Ethelred. So Ethelred is king in the 11th century, and what happened then sets us up for the possibility of the Magna Carta? Right, because they made a verbal agreement with Ethel Red that his only job would be to represent the Shires in foreign affairs, that he would continue to allow the Shires to govern themselves in a limited monarchy. This is a brand new thing. Limited monarchy. The king is only doing foreign powers.

the shires are governing themselves locally. Now, this is the basis that we use to determine that our Constitutional Republic had to be set on a limited central government perspective and a self-governing perspective of the states. So wait, we're not supposed to have a bloated out-of-control federal government? Is that what you're saying? I'm saying that the Constitution of the United States applied that wisdom so that we would have a limited defined federal government in which the states were superior as a chance. and balance over federal power. So limited and not bloated and puffy. Limited and defined.

Limited and defined. It's amazing that it goes back that far, and that is history that I did not know. Now, how do you come to be a constitutional expert? I mean, what is your background? What do you normally do when you're not on radio shows talking about Ethel Red? Well, I started off as an attorney who got mad. I read two books, two biographies. on our founders, started diving into the Federalist papers and the anti-federal's papers and all the debates and all the letters.

And I got really angry learning that what I learned in law school about the Constitution was completely false. Where did you go to law school? University of Florida. But it's not the University of Florida. It's everywhere. And then I discovered through my study that we stopped teaching the proper role of government, the proper application of our Constitution in 1830. So that really brought me down the rabbit trail. Now you're spooking me.

1830? Yes, 1830. And what precipitated that in 1830? What happened? Well, there was a political crisis, 1829, 1830. They call it the nullification crisis. But what it really was was a dispute between South Carolina, North Carolina, and a congressional tariff that unequally benefited the North states but caused economic loss to the southern states,

which is violative of the Constitution's provision that the tariffs are supposed to be based on the general welfare of all the states. And the South Carolina refused to pay the tariff. There was this big riff. And the end of the long story was that South Carolina won because Congress rewrote the tariff and everybody was happy. But there were many large government people at that time who did not want. the states to be able to exercise that kind of control over the federal government. So those people commissioned a Supreme Court justice by the name of Joseph's story to write a whole new treatise on how the Constitution works, how it's to be applied, and created what I call a doctrine

of federal supremacy and judicial supremacy, turning aside, completely kicking out of all legal curriculum, a treatise written by a man named St. George Tucker, who was a lawyer who wrote the treaties so that people would know how the Constitution was supposed to work because he was a lawyer involved in the drafting of the Constitution. I mean, that is amazing. And so you get the Constitution being misread through the decades. So is there a movement to correct this, or are you just one lonely voice here? Oh, no, no, no.

There's a whole bunch of us. Now, I've been traveling and teaching the Constitution for 14 years. Before COVID, I averaged 260 classes in 22 states every year for seven years straight. I've been blessed to write six books on the Constitution, produce, and write two award-winning documentaries that are all focused not just simply on the role of the states as the creator and check and balance on the federal government, but what our founders intended for the application of the Constitution and how we are to protect our rights. When we come back, I want to hear more about all of this. My guest is Chris Ann Hall, Chris Ann with a K, Chris Ann Hall. We're talking about the Constitution. It's the Eric Metaxis show.

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Hey, get rhythm. When you get the blues, come on, get rhythm. When you get the blues, get a rock and roll feeling in your mom. Welcome back. We're talking about the United States Constitution. We're at NRB here in Nashville. I'm talking to Chris Ann Hall, H-A-L-L. You said that you've produced a couple of documentary films about the Constitution.

What are they called? Well, the first documentary is called noncompliant. And it's all about the authority, the duty, and the power of the states to refuse to peacefully non-compli with orders, edicts, anything that comes from the federal government that's inconsistent with the Constitution. Right. Now, this suddenly becomes, you know, headline news because we're dealing with Texas and other border states saying we want to defend ourselves from non-Americans coming across the U.S. border into our state.

and suddenly you have the out-of-control federal government telling them they can't do that, which is, I mean, anyone with common sense realizes this is insanity because it is your state. So this is an issue for us right now just on that. Oh, absolutely. I'm actually at my website, chrysanhall.com, I've written a whole article on how the Constitution of the United States, and I also have studied all the constitutions of every state, all support a state defending itself from invasion. As a matter of fact, the Texas Constitution establishes that the governor is the chief, he's the commander-in-chief of the forces of the state of Texas, whose responsibility is to defend from invasion. And what we have is a long-term miseducation on a simple principle found in Article 6, Clause 2, we call that the supremacy clause.

We have been teaching for, well, since that doctrine started in 1830, that the supremacy clause makes the federal government and federal laws supreme to state laws and state constitution, and the key is whenever they conflict. But we have bullied the American people from an educational perspective into actually reading the constitution, telling them they're too stupid. You can't understand that. It's too complicated. But the constitution is actually very simply written.

and they have to bully us from looking at it. So if you look at Article 6 Clause 2 and you actually read it, you know that the Supremacy Clause is talking about the Constitution being supreme, not the federal government, and it actually states, if the federal government is doing anything that is inconsistent with the Constitution, it is not binding on the states. That's the language of Article 6 Clause 2. I would actually say if the federal government is doing anything that's conflicting with the Constitution, it's automatically out of line.

Well, it's our founders use the words null and void and lack the force of law. So compliance is the only thing that gives legitimacy to these executive orders and these regulatory agencies. So the key is we teach, and we point out in this documentary noncompliant, Because compliance is the only thing that gives it legitimacy, our founders actually intended for us. And Madison wrote a whole thing about this in 1800, intended for the states in defense of the rights of the people to refuse to comply. It's amazing. So people can find you at chanhall.com. It's K-R-I-S. K-R-I-S-A-N-N-E-Hall.

dot com, Chris Hanhall.com. So the documentary, the first one is called what? Non-compliant. Non-compliant. And what's the other one that you did? Well, it's called non-compliant, too, but it's all about the sheriff. Yes. You see, the American sheriff is a unique establishment that dates back to the year 841.

Whoa. And so. Way before the sheriff of Nottingham. Yes. Well, it's the sheriff of Nottingham, if we understand the history, because you know about the Magna Carta and Renémeet. Yeah. So prior to Runnymede, the sheriff was a direct appointee of the king,

the highest legal authority in the shire subject only to the king himself, and was quite often a violent tyrannical armed law enforcer. But at Runnymede, under Clause 61 of the Magna Carta, the people took back the sheriff, transformed the sheriff from a tyrannical agent of the king to a defender of the rights of the king. the people. It's through Clause 61 of the Magna Carta, where the sheriff is now authorized by the king himself to defend the people's rights, to make sure the people's rights, liberties, properties, are restored by the king, and he is allowed by the language of the Magna Carta to use

whatever means necessary to make things right for the people. Well, so what is our hope going forward of correcting some of these misunderstandings that are being. pushed in law schools around the country. Well, I can tell you that I, knowing what I know and traveling the country, I've never been more encouraged about America than before. Things got to get bad before people want to get that. It really seems, that seems to be the mantra that I say all the time that I wrote this book letter to the American church.

Yes, it's a beautiful book. Thank you. The whole point is that these horrible things are finally waking people up to say, I better do something. I have to take action. You and Thomas Jefferson agree, because remember the Declaration of Independence says people will suffer evil as long as evil is sufferable. I forgot about that line.

Yeah. Well, isn't that interesting? Because that's true. And we're at a point where I think a lot of people are finally waking up and understanding, I need to do something. I've been asleep at the wheel. We've been drifting and drifting. And where are we?

Yeah. We've got to take action. So that is interesting to me that you're noticing that people seem to be interesting. interested in this. Yeah, and the key is this, right? Shunning off and knowing the doctrine of federal supremacy is completely false in an effort to manipulate the people into submission and return our states to the form of colonies instead of independent sovereign governments. Wow, that's very interesting. That casts sleepy Joe Biden in the role of King George III. But I mean, that's actually true, right? You notice that

they do not seem to respect the founder's vision of we, the people being in charge. They tend to treat us like subjects. Well, the DOJ criminalizes it. The DOD teaches that it's terrorism.

But the key here is this. The American people hold an enormous amount of power when we stop focusing on the federal government and making the changes where they need to happen at the state and local level. You don't have to run for office and you don't have to wait for elections. You have to get educated. You have to get involved. Small places, small beginnings become big, big, powerful tools when we

focus locally. So the film is called? Noncompliant to the sheriff. And the first one is noncompliant. And you are Chris Ann Hall. Chris Anhall.com is the website. Chris Anhall, thank you for being my guest. I really appreciate it. My pleasure. Thank you. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Robert Nets. right now, who is with Inspire Investing. Robert, I can't help but get excited about what you've created an opportunity for people to find out if their money is funding wicked things, if they have money in a 401k or

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Robert Natsley, thank you. Pleasure. Thank you, Eric.