The Eric Metaxas Show - Mark Ibrahim

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

Mark Ibrahim, the now-former DEA agent being hounded by the Biden administration, offers his explanation of what happened in front of the Capitol on January 6th.

Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey folks, very exciting guests right now. His name is Mark Ibrahim. Drug enforcement administration, DEA, agent. He was suspended from the agency for being outside the Capitol building during the January 6th riot, where many senators and congresspeople were killed. as you may have heard. Oh, I'm sorry. Nobody was killed. Oh, Ashley Babett was killed. Gosh, that's a new take. I got to talk to Mark Ibrahim about many things. He comes to us by way of Patrick Coffin and our friend Rob

McCoy, and we just want him to tell his story. It's important stuff. Mark Ibrahim, welcome. Thank you. Thank you for having. I can't see Mark. Mark, welcome. I want to say that I'm grateful to you for wanting to tell the story because there has been such madness and confusion surrounding whatever it is that supposedly happened on January 6th. And the idea that we're not supposed to talk about it or we're supposed to have certain opinions about it is very troubling to me as an American. And I'll be the last person to shut up on this kind of an issue. So facts matter, truth matters.

And we just want to hear your story. I'm not sure what you can say. There's some kind of a lawsuit going on. What can you tell us? Let's start there. I mean, there's an active case against me. I'm facing 15 years in jail, facing multiple charges. I never went in the building.

I never heard anybody. I even offered assistance to the FBI SWAT team that was outside the Capitol building. I knew one of the members on the team personally. He had my personal cell phone, as did my brother. My brother is a FBI special agent. He was with me the whole time. He's still an active special agent.

He wasn't fired or he's not facing any jail time whatsoever. He was with me pretty much the whole time. So what? So what is the story here? In other words, I'm confused. You are based on our mutual acquaintances, our mutual friendships with folks like Patrick Kauf and Rob McCoy, I know you're a good guy. You love your country. What can you say about why you would be suspended?

And you're telling me your brother, you said he's an FBI guy. Yeah. So I was home. I was home for the holidays. It's not like people misunderstand. They think that I traveled from Orange County to Washington, D.C. for the rally. I'm actually like a Virginia, Northern Virginia, Washington, D.C. native. I went to Catholic University.

And, I mean, I grew up in the northern Virginia area. But wait, I'm going to stop you right there. Even the implication, like you're acting like, oh, I didn't travel there for the rally. I know a million people who traveled there for the rally. Grandmothers, people who love Jesus, people who have. So even the idea that, like, we have to say, well, I didn't travel there. Why do people have to say that? I know many people who travel there.

These are the most wonderful people I know. I know they did nothing wrong. But just to be clear, you're saying that you happen to be there. Yeah. The way things that are getting lumped in, right, attending that rally was not immoral, illegal, or wrong in any capacity. The destruction of property, the assault on police officers, that was illegal. Are you talking about Portland? Well,

Kenosha, what are you talking about? Oh, you're talking about Washington, D.C. Okay. Right, so regardless of how you feel about social justice or the election integrity or whatever, it's never an excuse to attack police officers, and regardless, wherever that is. So did you attack the police officer?

No, never. Okay, neither did I. So we're on the same page, right. Right. And had I seen anybody attack a police officer, I would have acted in my law enforcement capacity and arrested them, but I didn't. You know, I didn't see anyone. I know that that happened there. There's footage of that happening. But people are lumping the millions of people that attended that rally to support their president with that violence and insurrection. And there has to be a clear distinction. I'm sorry. But I still, the reason I keep interrupting.

I'm not clear on any violence or any insurrection. We don't even know who did what. People have been arrested and put in jail. We don't know what they did wrong. I don't know. They looked sideways funny at somebody. So there's the idea that we know what happened, and you're saying, and I wasn't part of that, we don't even know what happened.

I'm still unclear on that. But it seems to me like you're a good guy. You were there. and you don't know why you were suspended from the DEA. I mean, you were simply there, and they decided to suspend you and what? Yeah, so I felt like it was kind of a knee-jerk reaction. They felt that, I mean, I'm Egyptian-Cuban. They may have felt like I was a white supremacist or a threat to our nation.

Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to be a jerk here. What do you mean they may have thought you were a white supremacist? Because you're white? Is that what you're saying? why they would otherwise. I'm not white. I'm Egyptian Cuban, actually. Well, I consider that white. I mean, the point is it's all preposterous. It's so stupid.

But you're saying that because you have light skin, you think maybe they thought you were a white supremacist. Is that what you're saying? All the people with light skin on January 6 were potential white supremacists. It's just, it sounds so crazy. I don't even know how to where you go from there. My official verbiage I was given was my alleged participation in the January 6th riot. That was the, that was all I was given. And so when you say they, you're talking about the heads of the DEA, they decided to kick to suspend you. That's who we're talking about when we say they. You were trying to guess why they did this.

Yeah, my superior is at the Drug Enforcement Administration. And then after being suspended three times, I was fired for performance issues dating back months, you know, months and months ago. Yeah. That's, you know, it was Stalin, a good Democrat, just to be clear, who said, show me the man and I will find you the crime. We're noticing this. This is part of what's happening. It happened to us on this program. they decided they wanted to boot the whole program off of YouTube.

So they went back to find interviews that they could use as some kind of evidence. But, you know, that's not the way people function in a free society. So it's really obviously bizarre and troubling, but it fits the narrative. So what you're telling me, it sounds like, you know, we kind of hear this over and over again. This kind of thing keeps happening. people just decide we don't like him for some reason and then we'll we'll figure out why later so mark i don't know if you're able to say or not because this is pending lawsuit but it seems like somebody had something against you and they decided simply to suspend you and they figured we'll

figure it out later it's not yeah it's not pending lawsuit i'm facing 15 years i'm facing a lot of serious time in prison this is not just like a civil suit let's figure it out later know, like I was arrested. I self-surrendered at the WFO in Washington, D.C. I spent a day in jail. It was pretty humiliating. I went to court in shackles. Now, I've put people in jail and to be in shackles myself,

what I feel as a political prisoner or caught up in this political silliness, it was very hurtful. I love my country. I've never been a threat to my country. You know, I flew from L.A. to D.C. armed. I think I was a sole armed individual on that flight. I flew back from D.C. to L.A. armed with a loaded pistol on my hip. And for them to charge me for having a gun as if I'm a threat to our nation is preposterous.

I mean, also, there's a couple of facts. My brother is a special agent with the FBI. He was carrying his gun and his duty weapon with him and his badge and his credds, as was I. And they knew this from the day that they, you know, January 8th, I think they took my badge and gun away, if I recall correctly. And I told them, Eric, did you have your badge and gun? I said, yes, absolutely, because that's what we're expected to do, as did my brother. They knew that from January, but I didn't get indicted until I went on Tucker Carlson.

And just kind of said that this was messed up. That says it all. We'll be right back to unpack the rest of this. But this is painful. But God wants us to talk about what is true. He wants us to get the fact. out. They matter. We'll be right back talking to Mark Ibrahim. Hey folks, give the gift of memory for Christmas.

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He's facing 15 years in prison for doing Jack, I believe, is the legal term, for doing nothing. But we're living in crazy times, and it's important for us to talk about it, to get the facts out. Mark I want to say that, first of all, as an American, I apologize that we're living in a country right now where we've allowed things to get to this place where people like you are being persecuted. It's a monstrous thing. I believe God is with us in this battle and with you. And I want to say thank you again for being willing to come on this program to talk about this, because Americans need to know this is happening to folks like you to get the details.

Now, you said to me that you didn't really get in trouble until you appeared on Tucker Carlson to talk about this. When were you on Tucker Carlson? A couple months ago. I went on when I was fired, you know, I was suspended three times for my 11th participation in the January 6th riot is what I was told. And then I wasn't fired for that. I was fired for performance issues. And so Tucker Carlson got wind of this and he asked me to come on. And I said, you know, it's preposterous that, you know, if you're going to fire me for my alleged, you know, at least fire me for my alleged participation in the riot, right?

but they just pretext, you know, in case they didn't find anything. They said, oh, performance issues, and that's it. So I went on just letting them know that, hey, it's not right. I love my country. I have a history of serving my country. I was ROTC. You know, I wanted to be a chaplain, and then I ended up becoming an intelligence officer. My mother was in the Pentagon on 9-11.

My brother was an Army intel officer, and I followed him to federal law enforcement. He went FBI. I went DEA. I thought the DEA was a little more, you know, on the ground, boots on the ground. And, you know, I kind of feel like the FBI are analysts with guns. But, you know, there's still some good people in the FBI. And I have a long history of wanting to serve and love my country. My mom instilled in me, she's a, you know, she's a Cuban migrant.

And she came here as a child fleeing communism. And she instilled to me that we owe a debt to this nation. and that our freedom isn't free and that we should serve. And my mom was on the pen, independent on a 9-11, and she went back the next day. You know, she talks about some of her coworkers who weren't even in the building that claimed PTSD and didn't show up for work for six months. And my mom, who's a middle-aged woman, went back the next day, wanting to support the infrastructure so that we could pay the people back that attacked us.

And that's my type of mother, you know. That's called patriotism. Yeah. And that's worrisome. We don't like patriotism anymore. It's scary. Look, you, I have a similar story in the sense that my mother escaped East Germany, communist East Germany. My father left Greece after the communist tried to take over that country.

Immigrants to this country, particularly from places like that, teach their kids to love America, to love freedom. And almost always, when I meet somebody who's, they're from Cuba or whatever, they get America. freedom better by far than most Americans get it because I understand where it can go. But of course, it's going there right now and folks like you are being persecuted. Let me just ask you because, you know, you try to think about where's the logic. Somebody in the Department of, in the DEA obviously had some issue with you. In other words, there are a lot of people that were at this. event, you weren't rioting. So even when they call it a riot, there was tons of non-rioting

going on. You were there. Were you the kind of a person up to that point that you thought I have ideological enemies, that they're people that they don't like me because maybe I'm too, I don't know what, too Christian, too loving America? What do you suppose got their nose out of joint so that if they had to suspend somebody, they're pointing at you? I think it was just the media misconstruiting what happened and hyping it up and the government agency having a knee-jerk reaction. And I mean, everybody there was branded a white supremacist, insurrectionist. Everyone who was there was branded just people who hate America and are dangerous individuals. I personally met lots of dangerous individuals.

and, you know, and it's just, it was, let me say, dangerous individuals take the most dangerous course of action, right? Dangerous people who have a weapon will use it. My weapon was never unholstered that day, right? Everyone was safer because of my gun. I offered to assist the FBI squad team stationed at the Capitol building. And by the way, the FBI SWAT team does not get enough credit. They went into that building, not. not knowing how many shots were fired, how many people were there,

thousands of people, and they went in there courageously, you know, as a small team to rescue the Capitol building, not that, you know, and so, you know, I have a lot of respect for the FBI squad team. And I saw them. I saw members on the team there that day. A friend of mine is on the team. We've trained together. And I specifically offered assistance, you know.

People were hackling at the FBI squad team yelling at them, Who do you protect? And you guys are a bunch of traitors and this and that. And I told them to leave them alone that they're good Americans, that they're here to protect us all. And again, going to that rally was not illegal, immoral, or unconstitutional in any way. And actually, it was the most constitutional thing you can do is practice your First Amendment right. But the violence that ensued, now, whoever we disagree or whatever, the violence that ensued, I abhor. And had I seen any violence occur in front of me,

I would have personally taken action. I would have personally arrested an individual if I saw them attack a police officer. But isn't that the point? But I do not see it. Is that everyone we know is right on that page. There's just no doubt about it that we are not. Even the insinuation that we would be pro-violence or dangerous, whatever, is itself offensive. And the fact that that gets lumped in whether you might be a white nationalist or whatever, that is offensive.

I mean, that is slanderous, libelous. It's really evil, and we need to push against it because it is really, it tells you something about people when they have to play these games. And this is just generally speaking. This has nothing to do with the horror that you have to go through of potentially facing years in prison for doing nothing wrong. Now, is somebody covering your legal fees? I just cannot imagine that you're having to go through this. I got a great legal team, Darren Ritchie, out of Beverly Hills. He's fantastic.

No one's really covering my legal fees, but he has been working with me. He took this case as a matter of principle. He's been amazing. I mean, he's an American, and he cares. And, you know, he's a criminal defense attorney. So, you know, he always says that I'm one of his few clients that he actually is proud of to defend because he knows that I'm innocent. And the legal team that I have is fantastic. He's just, I mean, he's been supportive.

He's been a friend. I can't say enough about them. They've been absolutely amazing. But to quote our mutual friend, Pastor Rob McCoy, he says, the truth isn't afraid of a lie, but the lie is afraid of a truth because a lie can't exist in front of the truth, right? And that's just been, you know, my standard. I trust that God will give me justice. It has been extremely difficult. People don't, like I've lost my career.

I've been defamed through the media everywhere. I had to delete all social media. Can't really get a job. I mean, if people Google me, it's, you know, I can't really rent an apartment because even though I have no criminal record whatsoever, people really don't want to offer an apartment to me. You know, I've lost thousands of dollars. I've lost my clearance.

I mean, people don't understand not to mention that I was in jail for a day in D.C. Central, and I had to self-surrender. And having arrested and searched and put plenty of people behind bars, myself going through that,

it was really kind of traumatic. But one, I had a deep appreciation for Jesus when he was wrongfully accused and in you know there's a level of solidarity with with him in that and then you know your faith becomes real like and that's that's why i came on the show today not to talk about politics or my story or whatever just anyone listening to this i just want to encourage you that like if you're hurting

if you're suffering um Jesus is you may not understand why you're suffering but he's not he's he's not laughing at you or watching you he's he's present with you and he's suffering with you and if you put your hope in him you give it meaning You will make it through this. You know, I read your, my read parts of your book is atheism dead. And, right? That's your book. Yeah.

Yeah. I think you come across this thing of anyone talking about, if they have an answer for pain and suffering, right? They're wrong. Are they any, anyone on this side of the veil has an answer for why we suffer. You know what? This is a big subject. We're going to a break. going to be right back. Just a joy to have, as my guest, Mark, Abraham, don't go away.

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And so we were just talking, Mark, you were just talking about how it's made your faith more real to you. And it's kind of a funny thing, isn't it? The worst thing that could happen to us could drive us closer to Jesus, which is the best thing that could happen to us. So there's a bit of a paradox here. How do we deal with suffering? And you've been through it. And I just want to say that, you know, it's our honor to have you here. And I know a lot of people will be praying for you. But there are many others like you. Some are behind bars right now. And we're going through a tough time. in this country. But as you were saying, it's driven you closer to Jesus, which is, I don't think

the devil really wants to drive us closer to Jesus. So I feel like there are times when bad things really God, God does work all things together for good, even the worst things, like what you're going through, works it together for good. So I'm actually very hopeful for the country, that we're going through something in these trials right now that are leading a lot of people to a God that maybe they were holding him at arm's length. Right. I mean, when you suffer, you kind of have two options, right? There's like the atheistic approach or someone who believes in Jesus, right?

It's when you suffer as an atheist, it has no meaning, it's awful, and it's just the worst way to deal with it, and you're just in it. and it but as a Christian we believe that when we're suffering that Christ is suffering alongside us that even though we may not understand it currently that it is for our good maybe not our present good or but our eternal good and that we can actually offer it up to him and say Lord I accept this burden and this pain and I will I will feel it and I offered up to you and you do what you want with this and so and it's kind of a way of owning I think um Henry New one wrote a book called the inner voice of healing or the inner voice of love. And it talks

about owning your pain. And I think as a Christian, if we can own it, accept it and offer it to Christ, he can bring it to fruition. And he can bring it, bring a positive outcome of this. I know that this is extremely political. I mean, just today, there was a White House staffer who was caught with a gun going inside the building. And he said he didn't know the gun was there. and now he's being charged with lesser charges than I'm being charged with. And I wasn't even in the building. I didn't even step on the stairs of the building. There was another law enforcement officer who was arrested for carrying his gun on Capitol grounds,

as the articles read. And the Department of Justice dropped the case against him. My brother was carrying his firearm with him. And he's still a special agent and was not fired. You know, it's, and as he shouldn't be. And I'm not playing the victim or anything. It's just the only difference between me and all these individuals is I got on Tucker Carlson. I said it's not right that I lost my job.

Okay, but doesn't this get to the point is that what I take away, and I think most people paying any attention understand that there are powers that be who are evil. And what they're doing is they're saying, you know what, we're going to make an example of you. We want to, we want to scare people so they'll keep their mouths shut. So they won't go on Tucker Carlson. So they'll be afraid to go to jail. They'll be afraid to be sued. They'll be afraid, afraid, afraid.

And we want to scare them and chill them and shut them up. Well, those are fighting words because if you do that with me, I'm going to talk more. And I think there are a lot of Americans that they're just saying, like, you think you're going to shut me up in the United States of America? I believe in a God who defeated death. So I'm going to try to act like that. and I'm going to speak the truth. But we have to be honest that the idea that people are trying to use these bullying tactics and these threats to shut people up is the most un-American thing.

In other words, you want to talk about insurrection. That is insurrection. That is a bullet to the head of Uncle Sam. That is the destruction of the United States of America. And I just think we have to be really clear that when people pull this stuff as they're pulling it on you and they pull it on me by ripping us off of YouTube, they are letting you know that they don't have a leg to stand on. All they can do is try to threaten you and try to keep you silent,

and I don't think it's going to work. Yeah, while I was at Pastor Rob's church one Sunday, I met, I think his name is Ian Vonchenko, something like that. Anyways, he wrote a book called The KGB's Most Wanted, and I met him. And he gave me a signed coffee, and he prayed for me in Russian. And I asked him, you know, he was, the KGB's most wanted man.

He faced execution, and I think he spent over 20 years in prison or something like that for evangelizing. And I asked him, I said, weren't you scared? Like when they told you to stop it, when they told you to quit, when they told you, don't do this, we're going to kill your family, and we're going to throw you in prison for the rest of your life. Weren't you scared? And he gave me a response.

He said, of course, I was scared. But when he said, perfect love casts out fear, right? And just you had it on the name. nail on the head. You said, we believe in a God who's conquered death, right? I know that I wasn't an insurrectionist. I know that I wasn't violent. I know that I didn't hurt anybody. And I know I didn't go in that building. I know I stopped people from going in that building who told me they were going to go in and encouraged me to go in that building. I know the truth. And again, like I said, the truth isn't afraid of a lie, but a lie is afraid of the truth. And so I trust in God.

And that's it. Perfect love, cast out fear. I'm facing 15 years as a former federal agent. life in prison for me is not going to be good. That's a fact, right? But whatever God gives me, I will accept, right? I know the truth. I know I isn't in the wrong. And I know that if there was anything I could have done to help, my only regret about January 6th, truthfully,

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He is, he was a DEA agent who was suspended from the agency for being outside the capital during the riot. We're talking about a lot of things. Mark, you know, you were just talking about this idea that you spoke to, I forget his name, I've met him a million times, the Russian. H.J.B.'s most wine. I think Ian Vachenko. Yeah, I'm sorry. There we go. I've met him many times. I met his family. And I think it was at Rob McCoy's church the last time. But the funny thing is that he went through this when the Soviet Union was in its darkest place. They, they, they, if you believed in God, if, if you loved God, or if you talked about God, you were enemy number one. And they had no qualms about treating you in the most cruel manner because that was their ideology. What's, of course, staggering and horrifying is that we in the United States of America are today suddenly facing similar ideologies.

People that don't have, they have no bottom line except power. And so if you talk about, well, my faith is in God. I'm not afraid of you. That is a nightmare for them. Because if you can't be intimidated, if you look to God, if you fear God and love God, they really can't hurt you. They can't intimidate you. They can try.

But that's what I find so interesting is that here we are. You know, we're talking about people who went through this in the former Soviet Union, where it makes sense that they went through it. because we know that that was an evil regime. It was an evil empire that took a bold stand against the God of the Bible and against those who loved him. But now in America, we're seeing similar things, and they've come after you and they've come after many. And I think the first thing we need to do is just be honest about it and talk about it. And that's why I'm just so grateful to you for coming on this program.

Because people need to understand, you know, as we hear you, it's obvious what kind of a person you are. and it's a joke that they would try to demonize you and stuff. And I think that the more we talk, the less we're intimidated into silence, the more people see, hey, wait a minute, hey, wait a minute, I have been lied to. These people are not insurrectionists. These people are not a threat to democracy. On the contrary, these people are the backbone of democracy. So I do think people are waking up.

I think that God is using this really horrific time. to lead many people closer to him and to the truth. So I'm, I'm really hopeful. And I, and I know that no matter what happens with you, God is with you. You're the one that people should fear. You know what I'm saying? You say, oh, former law enforcement going into prison. On the contrary, Jesus is inside you. And let me tell you, you're going to, you just bring him wherever you go. And so there's, there's some amazing things happening in the midst of this mess, some really hopeful things. At least that's how I'm reading it. Yeah, and I think, you know, I believe that the self-government, in order for self-government to work, people have to be moral, right?

People not necessarily, they need to be self-governed. They need to be able to not be beaten or brutally placed in like the least religious or least more moral a country is, the harsher the government has to be, right? And, you know, I see this with this defund the police movement, and I'm questioning why this is happening. And I have a lot of law enforcement friends. And I realize that the local police are the first line of defense and self-government, right? Generally speaking, police are from their communities, and it's communities policing each other, right? truth is we need to that job should be praised

and we should really encourage and thank our police officers and law enforcement officers especially at the local level who are part of a community and answer a call, especially now in this horrible time where you'll be judged you know

days later when a guy was throwing pointing a gun in your face and so I would just encourage people just to thank their law enforcement officers and realize that law enforcement, local law enforcement is the first line of defense and self-government because that's how a moral society rules itself. And if we do away with local law enforcement, we're going to have socialism, you know,

and that's, if you notice, there was a trend in Hitler and Stalin and Mao Zedong. And all they did was the first, the first thing they did away with municipal powers and local governments and local authorities. So, you know, just thank a police officer when you get a chance. And I don't know. I mean, pray for America. Please, just pray for our nation. There are many people praying for this nation.

That's why I have hope because I think to myself, a lot of people have been praying for this nation for the last number of years, especially since the election. Many, many people of profound faith have been praying for the election. I mean, praying for the country since the election. They've kept praying, and God hears every one of those prayers. This is every one of those prayers is heard and answered. And I really do believe that the prayers are piling up and that God will answer. He's answering already, but he will answer in ways that are really dramatic.

And our job is to be faithful and to look to him in the midst of it. But a lot of people are suffering and struggling right now, all in our different, spheres. Very few people are facing, you know, 15 years behind bars. But the principle is the same that if we really want to know, is God real? He's real. And I just think that that becomes clearer and clearer when you're, if you're willing to step out there, there are a lot of people that have stood back and they're watching this and they're thinking, man, I don't, I don't want to get in trouble. Let's be really clear. That's called cowardice. And God doesn't call us to be cowards. He calls us to be courageous to step up and to trust him that he's got our back. No matter what happens,

he is with us. He goes with us. So we're just about out of time. Mark, is there a way people can help you financially? Is there a place people can go a website? What is the story? What's it? There is a give, send go, go fund me, de-platform to me. You know, they defunded GoFundMe, the platformed Kyle Rittenhouse, but the jump kick man. Yeah. Mays $5 million on GoFundMe. So where would people need to go quickly because we're almost at a time?

Where would people need to go if they want to help you? There's a GIFS and Go. It's called Mark's Liberty Fund. Gifts and Go? Give Send Go. Give Send Go. Sorry. Give Send Go.

Mark's Liberty Fund. Is that it? Yeah. Give send go Mark's Liberty Fund. Mark Ibrahim, my brother, God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Eric.

Appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you, we need your help. We need your help in a million ways. I'm going to be bolder and bolder by asking for your help. First of all, if you heard this hour, my conversation with Mark Ibrahim, you need to share this. Now, some of you don't know anything about social media. That's fine, but most of you do.

Would you please find the link? I would say, you know, you go to Rumble probably. But just share these interviews. Doesn't matter. Every day we're doing these amazing interviews with these extraordinary people. Mark Ibrahim takes the cake. Please share this on social media with anyone you can.

We really need to reach people that They're not aware of this program. If you can help them find out about it. And again, we don't care if it's audio or video, you know, whatever. I also want to say, we need your help. Well, in two ways. We're doing a fundraiser, as you know, with CSI. We're freeing slaves.

And CSI, Christian Solidarity International. These folks are heroes. They are getting it done on a level that, oh, my goodness. You know, you talk about if there was a company that I could invest in, Well, they're not for profit. They're not doing this for profit. They're doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to serve the Lord by freeing people from slavery.

It's an astonishing organization, Christian Soliday International. We fundraise with them once a year. I'm going to give you the phone number. But if you don't participate with them at Christmas, I don't know what to say. This is $25, $50. Do this in the name of somebody. Give somebody a gift that is so extraordinary that you can't even compare it to the other kinds of gifts we normally give each other. Here's the phone number.

888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. Or you can just go to metaxis talk.com. That's already a website, metaxistalk. com. And you can see the banner. $250. $50, freeze someone from slavery, folks.

You can do that. And I've said it before. I throw this out there that whatever you give, you're enlisted, enlisted. You're enrolled in our grand prize contest. So anybody who gives, you may win a raft of signed books for me and Albin and all kinds of stuff. We want to just encourage you the fun of it.

It's just... That's two things that you might get. Eric's new book, His Atheism of Dead, like the entire collection of hamster homes, both signed, okay? So that's part of the package deal. Anything you give, you're going to be after three grand prizes.

Since it's Christmas, I do want to say that we would love you to go to mypillow.com. The slippers. Oh, my gosh. The slippers, the towels, all of it, hugely discounted. Use the code, Eric.

And if you want to do us a favor on this program, and we do need your help, we do, tell all your friends to use the code, Eric, when they go to mypillow.com. When you go to my store.com, which is linked to my pillow, you can get Bonhofer posters. They are gorgeous. You'll see them. You can get my Bonhofer book. You can get almost all of my books, my memoir that came out a few months ago, fish out of water. all of that is available at my store.com. I want to ask you to shop there and use the code Eric. I love the slippers. Use the code Eric. The slippers.

Use the code Eric. There's so many things you can get there for folks for Christmas. And you're helping out Mike Lindell. You're helping out this program. We appreciate it. Also, Neutrametics, neutrametics.com, they've given us the entire month. If you use the code Eric, it's 30% off.

That is, trust me, fantastic, take advantage of it, Nutrimetics.com. Also, we should tell you, go to frankspeech.com every day, 3pm. You can see this program as a TV program. You can see what we're wearing. It's exciting. Frankspeech.com, 3pm every day. Thank you.