The Eric Metaxas Show - Mark Shaw - Part 3

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Mark Shaw draws to a close his three-part interview of his book, "Collateral Damage," shedding light on the death of Marilyn Monroe -- was it really an unfortunate suicide or something more sinister? ...

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Texas show with your host Eric Mettaxas. Oh, hello. Albin, welcome back, man. Welcome back to you. I just want to say that on my summer vacation, I went to the car wash. I posted it on Instagram. You did. I went to the car wash and I filmed the whole thing and it was very exciting. Were you riding on top of your car and? No, I was inside the car. Traditionally, you ride inside the car. Okay, let's warn our viewers in hour one today. We're going to complete our conversation with Mark Shaw. Mark Shaw claims that Robert F. Kennedy had Marilyn Monroe murdered. He gives a lot of information.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Johnny Russo has made that claim on this program. It's horrifying to think that this could be real. But you'll hear more later. Now, people want to watch the video. If you want to watch the video, folks, I'm going to say it again. YouTube canceled us. We are at war with YouTube because they're evil. They're working for the Chinese communists.
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Starting point is 00:06:21 again, people write me on my website, my Eric Mataxis website and the Metaxus talk website, the radio website and my personal website. I read every single email that people send. It's getting tough because by the grace of God, many of you are writing us. We love it. And we read everything. We can't respond to everything. And we certainly can't read everything on the air. But once in a while, somebody sends us something, and I feel I'd like to read it. So this is from Michael Pop, real name.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah. He says, hey, I saw your interview with Huckabee on Newsmax. Now, Huckabee, the program, is on TBN, but it's re-aired on Newsmax, which is cool. And this person said, and, by the way, if you didn't see that, you should sign up for my newsletter. Eric Mataxis.com. So this person says, I saw your interview with Huckabee. I was born in Romania under a communist government dictatorship. My family came to America between 1985 and 1989.
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Starting point is 00:07:51 Unfortunately, recently I've noticed a global movement toward communism. The sad part is the ones on the left are so brainwashed. I'm not sure if we can break them free. I have people telling me I don't understand communism. Now, this person grew up in communist Romania. He says, people telling me I don't understand communism. They think they know better because they took a class in college. They will sit there and actually argue with me, a person that's lived under the boot of communism.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It just doesn't seem to click for these people on the left. I see this is not just in America, but all over the world. I believe the great reset is really about a global communism movement. Keep it up and say the truth always, sincerely, Michael Pop. Michael, God bless you for this. And I want to say to all of my friends, listen to the people who've experienced communism. My mother and dad knew it up close. Many people have seen it up close. They are the ones warning us. They know what is coming. They know how it starts. It starts with weak rhino,
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Starting point is 00:11:00 Rain drops are falling on my head. And just like the guy who's feet of two. Ladies and gentlemen, we're talking to Mark Shaw, the brand new book, Collateral Damage. This is a bit of a, you know, fire hose to drink from Mark Shaw. You've lived this, but for most of us, this is all just staggering information. It's important to know what happened. You say very clearly that Robert F. Kennedy was behind the murder of, of Marilyn Monroe.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Have you ever asked his son, RFK Jr., about that? Well, the Kennedy's clam up. You know, they fold the tent. I've sent the reporter who knew too much and denial of justice to Caroline Kennedy because I wanted her to know that Dorothy Kilgallin basically was writing that book for Random House
Starting point is 00:11:58 that was going to expose who really killed her father. And that she should know that basically after, you know, The wrong people knew that she was going to do that, that she was killed. I never heard from her. So, you know, the Kennedys, they clam up about this. You know, I would, you would hope that they would want to know the truth. And I think my theories are the most plausible with regard to what happened.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I mean, basically, this book is a combination of three murder mysteries that really weren't mysteries at the time if anybody had done their homework and paid attention. Marilyn Monroe, I mean, everybody was screaming that she didn't commit suicide and all of that, yet no investigation. Dorothy Kilgall in the same way. JFK, that Warren Commission was just unbelievable. Jay Edgar Hoover shouting Oswald alone, Oswald alone, and then using the Warren Commission as a rubber stamp, no investigation again. So it's just unfortunate that, you know, everybody deserves an investigation. And let me just speak to that for a second. I've prepared a letter to George Gashon, I think is how you pronounce his name, the Los Angeles County District Attorney, requesting, demanding that he reopen,
Starting point is 00:13:16 Dorothy, Maryland Monroe's death, Maryland Monroe's death, based on all the new evidence that I have. The letter has a 75-page exhibit of all the evidence in the book, and I've sent it, I'm going to send him the book. I'm going to do that next week. Also, I can tell you, as far as Dorothy Kilgallan's, murder goes, I finally got the New York City Police Department through its cold case squad. I had a detective from there get in touch with me about a month ago. And for all practical purposes, they're telling me they're going to investigate Dorothy Kilgallon's death. So I'm after the truth with regard to these agencies looking at all the new evidence and hopefully giving these two women the justice they deserve.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Well, we've given short shrift to Dorothy Colgallon's death. She died in 65. You say that the mob killed her because she was writing about how JFK was killed. Was it the mob generally, or was it Marcellus's people that would have killed Dorothy Colgallon? I would say it was Marcello and his operatives within the mob. You know, here's the kind of quotes that, that I found that just knocked me out when I find them. And these come from Dorothy Kilgallon's hairdressers,
Starting point is 00:14:36 one of whom, by the way, was in the same beauty salon as Gianni Russo at one point in New York City, Mark Sinclair. When she came back to New York after being in New Orleans, she said, I'm afraid for my life and my family, and I bought a gun. Her other hairdresser, Charles Simpson, said, Dorothy told him, if the wrong people knew what I know about the JFK assassination, it would cost me my life. And so she knew she was in danger. And yet, you know, people have said to me, well, if she knew that, Mark, why didn't she take care of herself?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Because she thought she was so big that nobody would ever harm her, kill her, whatever. And I think it was the same mentality with Marilyn Monroe. Sure, she could threaten to go to the press. And even if she did, I'm this famous movie star. the most famous movie star in the world, one of the most famous people in the world, nobody's going to touch me. Well, they touch both women and silenced them both. How was Dorothy Colgallon killed? I've been able to piece it together, basically, that she left a hotel after being on What's My Line, the quiz show that night of November 8th, November 8th, 1965. A man she met with,
Starting point is 00:15:53 His name is Ron Pataki. He was a journalist in Columbus, Ohio. They were at the Hyatt Hotel there in a bar. I believe that he went ahead and somehow or another inserted into her drink, Fina Barbatol, Nembutal, and Secanol, I'm sorry, Tulinol and Sekanol, that she wobbled with him out of the hotel back to the apartment, where she finally collapsed. She was found on the floor of the bathroom
Starting point is 00:16:28 where she had apparently fallen. And you're going to ask me, why is Ron Pataki involved? Because he, I was told by a source that I have in the book in collateral damage, a Las Vegas source who asked to not be identified because he's afraid for his life, that Ron Pataki, this journalist friend of Kilgallens,
Starting point is 00:16:48 with whom she had shared her JFK assassination investigation material, had gotten involved with the wrong people, gambling debts, whatever, and was compromised that if he would tell them what Dorothy Kilgallin was going to put in her book, that they would get him out of that trouble. And so he helped, and then he set her up for the kill. Ron Pataki is still alive today, and I've asked the New York Police Department cold case squad to go after him because there's no question that he was involved in her murder. In fact, there's a poem he wrote about Dorothy's death that basically gives the details as to exactly what I just outlined in terms of how she was killed that only the killer would know. He has
Starting point is 00:17:36 admitted to relatives, and I have this in collateral damage, that he was the last person to see her alive. And so my hope is now that this, I sent. along with the letter to this detective, a 15-page document of all the evidence that I've just told you about, and I'm hoping that they will investigate Pataki now and bring him to justice. That is extraordinary. You know, if I'm ever involved in setting somebody up for murder, I almost never put it in my poetry. I just want to be clear. It's just something I don't do on principle. Let me ask you, this is a pop quiz question for you. Let's see. How does Joey Hetherton figure in this?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well, the only thing I know about Joey Hetherton is that she was on what's my line and she was a panelist at one particular time. He was a panelist on the last show that Dorothy Kilgallin was on. That's right. It's hard to believe that we're talking about 1965.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Joey Hetherton was on. she, it's just so strange that people go about their lives and they're having fun. And that night, she's killed, not Joey Hetherton, of course. And I hope people will watch those, watch my line shows. There's more than a thousand of them up there, I think. Don't you find it fascinating, Mark, that we were able to create genuinely entertaining TV. What's My Line? And, you bet your life.
Starting point is 00:19:13 they're some of the most entertaining shows ever put on TV, and yet now they're 50 and 60 years, 60 years old. It's astonishing, really, when you think of what's on TV today that they can't come up with anything like that because they were such great shows. In any event, Dorothy Colgallin,
Starting point is 00:19:31 most people do know her from What's My Line. I was shocked when I heard that she'd been murdered and somehow it was all tied up in this. So it's just great to get this history. But, you know, when we talk, We talked about Frank Sinatra earlier. Johnny Russo clearly was implying that it really was the mob generally and not just Marcello that wanted JFK killed because he was prosecuting the whole mob. In other words, the mob in general felt that because they got him elected.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I mean, what does Marcello have to do with what happened in Chicago and the deal that Joe Kennedy made with the Chicago dirty paw? So doesn't it indicate that it goes beyond just Marcello? Well, I think it does. You know, I found another book that nobody had looked at, and that was a autobiography by Joe Kennedy's wife. Oh, boy. What her name, Joe Kennedy's wife? Rose. Rose, called Rose.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That's the name of the book. Sorry. And, you know, nobody never read much about that book. Well, it showed that supposedly Rose knew about the gangsters helping them win the 1960 election because Rose wanted to go to West Virginia where they were helping out, and they told her not to do that. And then, you know, it goes on and everything. And basically she knew about Sam Giancona in Chicago. She knew about these other gangsters and everything because Joe had, you know, been involved with all of them.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So it was surprising to me when I saw that. but it was just another source that nobody had ever, you know, discovered because they hadn't done the legwork. But, you know, it really confirmed the fact of exactly what you're saying. You know, Joe Kennedy made a huge mistake. He double-crossed those guys. And I think he did that because he wanted to show him that he could, you know. But it led to the deaths of JFK, Marilyn Monroe, and Dorothy Kilgown. We're going to return to this subject. The book is collateral damage. The mysterious deaths of Marilyn Monroe, Dorothy Kilgallin. The author Mark Shaw will be right back.
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Starting point is 00:22:50 Call 888909-11010. Ask for Ray and tell them Eric sent you. That's 888909-0110. Hey there, friends, Eric Metaxis here. Hey there, folks. We're talking to the author of Collateral Damage, Mark Shaw. Mark, you said that Joseph Kennedy wanted to sort of show the mobsters that, you know, we're legitimate. My son is in the White House. My other son's the Attorney General.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And we're going to double cross you. But according to Johnny Russo and other things I've looked at, it seems that JFK had a reasonably good relationship with his father, Joe Kennedy. RFK evidently hated his father, Joe Kennedy. And you get the idea that RFK became Attorney general apart from the will of JFK, that it was Joe Kennedy who sort of installed him and said, this is a deal, and that RFK, because he hated his father, went after the mob. In other words, it wasn't that he was doing his father's bidding, but I got the impression that he decided to do what he wanted to do. So he really ended up double-crossing his brother and his father. Well, to open the book, actually, I give people, I like to get them into the action.
Starting point is 00:24:24 So it's a chronicle of the fact that after JFK was elected, there's this breakfast, John Sagan-Taylor, who was a very well-known journalist at time and a confidant of the Kennedy's, is there. And Joe Kennedy is saying, you know, JFK will appoint Bobby Attorney General. And JFK said, I'm not sure I want to, and I'm not sure he wants it. And according to Sagantheller, Joe Kennedy says, Bobby Kennedy will be attorney general. So then Bobby is attorney general. Well, I'd have to take, you know, exception with what they say that Bobby would have gone after the mafia to get back at his father.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Bobby was not, he didn't hate his father. He was scared of his father. That's a difference there. And I've proven that. He was scared of Joe. If Joe told him to do something, man, he did it. If you go back to the McClellan hearings, which happened in 1959, I guess, you see Bobby Kennedy and Jack Kennedy up on the panel,
Starting point is 00:25:30 and Bobby Kennedy is just reaming these mobsters, Marcello, Giancana, Mickey Cohen, made fun of Giancana, you're giggling like a little girl. Then he wrote this book, enemy within, which got him to Los Angeles, and then let him see Marilyn Monroe. But he hated those guys. He hated Bobby, he hated James Hoffa. For God's sakes, Hoffa almost tried to strangle Bobby Kennedy when they had a confrontation in Washington, D.C. So all of that evil was inside, towards the mafia, was in Bobby Kennedy's system when he became Attorney General. And he got, he got
Starting point is 00:26:13 he got the position in January of February, I believe, whatever it was, in April is the first thing he did. Cardos Marcello went to the immigration office in New Orleans. I'm going to show you guys what I can do, you mafioso, and he had a plane ready, and they flew Marcello's to the jungles of Guatemala. Deported him. He was out there in the jungle for days. You know who Nick Pelletti is, all right, the great writer of wise guy and the other what the other great book is. Yeah, Nick Pellejee, sorry, Nick Pellegi. He told me, you know, the one thing about Sicilians, and that is Marcello and these guys, you can't double cross them.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Revenge is all they know about. Well, if you, Marcello, and you're down in the middle of the Guatemalan jungle, he got back into the United States, suits and friends, you're going to strike back one way or another, and he wanted to go shoot Bobby Kennedy. But again, if you shoot Bobby Kennedy, Jack Kennedy comes after you. What do you do? You kill Jack Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So Bobby Kennedy is powerless. End of the, end of story. It's interesting. When we think about it, I just saw a really good documentary about Frank Sinatra. I think it was Netflix two part. And it goes into how devastated Sinatra was
Starting point is 00:27:33 after he, you know, practically delivers the presidency to JFK or at least works hard for him, you know, Lawford and Sammy Davis and Dean Martin make him almost a member of the rat pack. And then somehow they decide that the Kennedys to distance themselves from Sinatra,
Starting point is 00:27:53 and there's the famous thing he has a wing built in his home to accommodate JFK, and instead JFK stays with Bing Crosby or somebody like that. So it seems that, it seems at least possible that Frank Sinai, would have been somehow in on the mob animus toward JFK. And maybe he knew what was happening. Is any speculation there? What I can add there is it wasn't the Kennedys who told JFK to part ways with Frank Sinatra. That was Joe. Joe ruled. You know, Joe ruled that family. I don't know if you know it or not.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Of course you will. Joe Kennedy was ambassador to Britain. He had all the money in power. He wanted to be. He presied the United States, and then he was nice to the wrong guy, Adolf Hitler. So they brought him back to the United States. He wasn't ambassador anymore. And here's his plan. If I can't be president, my son's will. Well, Joe Kennedy Jr. was going to be president, but he died in the war. So here's what Joe thought he could do.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I'm sure of it. Jack Kennedy will be president for four years. Bobby Kennedy will be president for four years. And then Ted Kennedy will be president for four years. If I add that up right, that's what? you know that's eight eight and eight that's 24 years of kennedy's in the white house may you may think that's crazy but joe kennedy didn't he thought that was possible a dynasty of kennedy's well i'd like to think that it uh it was possible uh it's an amazing thing uh how wrong that all went
Starting point is 00:29:26 you know people talk about the the curse of the kennedy's and oh my i think that there may be something to that i mean you'd have to talk about what that even means you know when you talk about a curse because it gets into some dark spiritual waters. But it is at least interesting to look into. We're going to continue our conversation, folks, talking to the author of Collateral Damage. I think his name is Mark Shaw. Let's see. Stick around. Folks are talking to the author of the brand new book, Collateral Damage. The author is Mark Shaw. Mark, we're really getting into the weeds, which is so much fun here. You were talking about Joseph Kennedy, the patriarch, hard to imagine a darker figure. I mean, here's a, here's a guy
Starting point is 00:30:29 involved in bootlegging. I mean, was he, would you say that he was a criminal or he just associated with criminals? I think he, I think he was like a lot, you know, back then criminals, or let's say the mafia, those guys were celebrities in many ways. Gianni can tell you that. They weren't looked upon as bad guys. I mean, Dorothy Kilgal and a friend of hers was Frank Costello. She used to have lunch with him, you know, and get information from... I haven't heard that. She would have lunch with Frank Costello? Yeah. And he gave her a, you'll see in the book, he gave her a diamond ring. And it was so big the diamond that she, they went ahead and separated and made into a bracelet or something. That's confirmed by her hairdresser. I mean, there were celebrities
Starting point is 00:31:15 back then. Melvin Bell, I was a wannabe a mafia guy. There were many people like to hang around them, or say, Sinatra liked to do that. He would brag about the fact that he knew all these bad guys. It was kind of like an honor of some sort. And Joe Kennedy loved that during the bootlicking days and after that. And so all he had to do was say to Frank Sinatra, get in touch with Giancana, Marcello, those guys, help us win the 60 election. And then we'll leave those guys alone. You know, these people are like basketball players or athletes.
Starting point is 00:31:48 They think rules don't apply to them. all right and so they can do anything they want to i'm i'll leave the former president alone but there are people who believe that they can i like ike okay you don't say one bad thing about is and how i will not i always like ike but you know they think that they play by their own rules and joe kennedy thought that yeah you know i'm going to show the mafia i'm bigger than you guys i'm going to sick bobby on you well it cost him his son it cost him jfk well Yeah. And he knew it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Excuse me. One more thing. He knew it. When they showed him the New York Times front page, JFK killed. I have two sources that were right there that quote this. He just slumped over through the newspaper on the floor. Obviously, he was in the effects of a stroke that he had had. But he knew he had to have known that his strategy backfired and that he didn't really show the mafia he was boss.
Starting point is 00:32:48 They showed him who was bossed by kill him. JFC. Well, again, Johnny Russo makes it sound like it was different. In other words, that it was RFK trying to get back at his father by going after the mob. But you're saying no, that according to you, it was Joe Kennedy himself putting his son RFK up to it. I certainly think so. That would have been, I mean, I respect Gianni's opinion, but that would have been, you know, just suitable Joe conduct. You know, I got all the money in the world. I can't be president, but I made my son president. And now it's like I am president.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And I've seen several quotes that say and suitable ones, incredible ones, where Joe Kennedy was basically living his life through his sons. Okay. and that's what he thought he could continue to do for probably, you know, 24 years if all Kennedy's won the presidency. I interviewed Caroline Kennedy at a Socrates in the city event about two and a half years ago. And I didn't ask her one difficult question. And yet she was nonetheless impressively evasive, even with the simplest questions. And I can understand at this point in history, how difficult it would be for someone. I don't even know why she submitted it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 She submitted it to the interview to begin with. But it is interesting because the darkness is so deep and so horrifying that I would think you'd spend a lot of time simply avoiding any of that stuff. I don't know if I were she, whether I would read the book that you had sent. It's just so it's tawdry, unfortunately. Your writing is not tawdry, but the facts are tawdry. I'm told that her husband has read both books, but that she didn't. But that's a tribute to you, Eric.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You are a man of good reputation, a man of the truth and everything, that Caroline Kennedy would talk to you. I would bet that, you know, you're one of very few that that's ever happened with, and she must have trusted you somewhere or another. So I think that's a feather in your cap for sure. You should feel honored about that. Well, I don't. As I say, I never am interested in doing, you know, anything, any gotcha stuff. and I'm not a hard-hitting journalist. I like having conversations with people.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I realize that I'm not the kind of person who's going to try to trap them into saying anything. For example, I could have asked you a question, like, why don't you write your next book on Who Killed Ashley Babbitt? I would never do such a thing in an interview like this because I just want us to have a good time. So I'm not going to ask you that question.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So you don't have to prepare an answer. I will never ask that question. I'm not going to answer. But I do want to say that the darkness, it's depressing when you think, that a man that is on the 50 cent piece would have been involved in this. And I think what it really does is it leads to a jaundiced view of all the great institutions. I mean, I'm proud to be an American.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I believe in American exceptionalism in the sense that we are the nation that has held up the torch of liberty. We've never been perfect. But I would go so far as to say, I do believe God has had his hand on this nation, that we've been outrageously blessed and we've been able to be a blessing in many ways. And so when people are confronted with these facts about some of their leaders, particularly, you know, the much vaunted figure, the martyr practically of JFK, it is depressing. And it undermines it undermines the whole country. That's that's sort of inevitable for me. Well, it does. The, you know, the world stopped when JFK was killed. It's an event of monumental importance. and I get, you know, guy 73 yesterday just sent me an email from Canada, and it's always
Starting point is 00:36:44 bothered him, and he's read one of my books now, and he feels a little bit better knowing more about what he thinks happened. So I hope I provide stop and think books, you know, and people can read, they don't have to agree with me, but they can read what my research has produced. And hopefully, you know, it makes a difference in their lives because there's, so many people that are so disappointed as they should be, not only with JFK's death, but Dorothy's. And I think the same thing will happen with Maryland's death now, where people will really feel like, hey, we lost, we lost really a remarkable woman. And that should have never happened in 1962. A quick yes or no answer since we run out of time. But is it worth reading
Starting point is 00:37:31 Norman Mailer's biography of Marilyn Monroe? Yes or no? I don't know. I'd have to say I don't know. I haven't read it. I don't, again, read other people's books because I want my material to be fresh. But I will say this. I'd appreciate people not doing so because they will try to compare his writing with mine. And I'll lose that battle for sure. I don't think so. I think you're being overly generous. Mark Shaw, a true pleasure. God bless you. Thanks for your time. Thank you, sir. Ola, Ola, to you too. I agree 100%. Because I'm old. Okay. Okay, Albin.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yes, sir. We've got a lot of fun stuff in this. This is like an entertaining segment we're going to do right now. Before we go into the substantive hour two. I just realized that card I got in the mail. I was telling you about this before we went on the air today. You get to a certain age and then you get advertisements in the mail that are like a little creepy. I have, I think I...
Starting point is 00:38:40 No, no, you didn't. You didn't, what you do with it? I hung on. Oh, here it is. Here it. If you're on video, if you're watching on video, you can see this card. I actually got this from a cemetery, okay? And they said they're having an open house weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Albin. This is what happened with Fun Factorite. I got to shut you down. Okay, shut me down. And I got to explain to the people, Albin is not joking. It's funny, but this is 100% true. You got to tell people, this is real. You're not making this up, man.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. This is not a joke. send it to the sadar family or current resident okay because in case it's in case you already died while that was in the mail another cemetery it's an open house weekend where i could actually check out their mausoleums their traditional cemetery the crematorium all these options wait a minute i'm not kidding this is this is not a joke but you make it sound like you're goofing around certain age and this is real you're you're open your fair game okay it's called gate of heaven cemetery open house yeah weekend yeah only the dead need apply that's right But if you're living and you want to make plans for dead people, you can go there.
Starting point is 00:39:44 There's an open house. We don't want to give these dates, but it says, this is not a joke. No. This is not a joke. It seems like a joke. It says, crypt and grave discounts on open house dates only, exclamation point. 50 cents off, right? And you're like, these sons of guns, I got there one day late and I got to pay full price for
Starting point is 00:40:05 the crypt. Man, you're ripping me off. Okay. When I'm dead, I'm going to haunt you bad. Yeah. Okay, so it says, begin your pre-planning arrangements today. Many choices are available mausoleum, crypts, interior and exterior. You can check them out inside now.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Traditional cemetery plots, double and triple depth. Oh, the saving. I'm going to go four times deep this time, yeah. Cremation options available, family plots. Fun for the whole family this weekend, folks. I mean, but this is not, this is, this is in Hawthorne, New York. gate of heaven, New York.com. Well, at least it's a gate to heaven, right?
Starting point is 00:40:45 It could have been another kind of gate. That's pretty presumptuous of them. That's right. It could be a gate to purgatory because it's a Catholic cemetery. Do you ever think about that? All right, Alvin, we've got to get serious. I mean, now we're not making that up, but it's hilarious. Okay, I got to read another letter.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I find this funny. Dear Mr. Metaxus, I appreciate listening to your videos podcast while working around the house. But yesterday I listened to your interview with Dr. Simone Gold while milking a cow. this woman makes it seem like it's just something that just happened. I can't explain it. Obviously, we have a lot of dairy farmers in our listenership. And the cows named Molly and Tess from Alberta Canada writes, I'm not sure what Molly thought of it. I forgot to ask, but it probably made her day. Keep fighting the good fight of faith. God bless you, sincerely Tess, a young adult from Alberta, Canada.
Starting point is 00:41:31 First of all, as a young adult, let me just say, thank you for listening to this program, because I would was once a young adult. And I didn't listen to programs like this. And so we really appreciate it. Okay. Albin, we haven't, we've got a lot more to talk about. Father's Day weekend coming up. So you've got to go to Salem now.com and take and check out the streets were my father. You got to check that out. CSI, you got to give today. CSI, free a slave for $250 at CSI. We're now making this up, ladies and gentlemen. This is all true. That's right. CSI, you go to metaxis talk.com. If you want to do something amazing. And I urge you to get your kids involved to make them understand that there's evil in the world, but there is good, God's good in the world,
Starting point is 00:42:13 and that we can do something to fight the evil. And we can do something very specifically in this case. Go to CSI at metaxis talk.com. It's an astonishing opportunity that we have to fight evil. We don't just have to complain about it. We can actually do something about it and stop complaining about it. All right. In our two, we're talking about Hitler's war machine. Wow. That's a good one. A lot of laughs coming up in hour two.

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