The Eric Metaxas Show - Matt Walsh

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

Matt Walsh, who is not a biologist, has a new film in which he asks a very simple question, "What is a woman?" -- and he gets some unusual answers and/or evasive responses. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Matt Waltz, do you know who that is? If you don't know who that is, it doesn't matter because you will. He has made a film, a film called What is a Woman? Now, in a couple of minutes, Albin is going to reveal something absolutely brilliant. I'm going to keep you on the hook for a couple of minutes because I don't want Albin to say this. I thought of something. You thought of something that's so brilliant with regard to the question, what is a woman?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Because you'll remember folks that the question, what is a woman? First of all, it's so stupid, but it came up during the hearing of Judge whatever her name is, Katani Brown Jackson, something, right? It's Katani Jackson, I don't know. When she was being grilled, the question came up, what is a woman? Which is insane. We're asking these questions.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's like, what is one plus one? Can you answer that? I'm not a mathematician. I can't answer that. Like, we're living in crazy times. So Matt Walsh has made a film, a documentary. It's put up by the Daily Wire called What is a Woman? It is amazing stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:57 We're going to interview him in just a couple of minutes. In hour two today, I don't know which hour this is. I can't tell. But in hour two today, we're talking to my friend Larry Taunton. Larry Taunton did this kind of Twitter Twitter storm. He did a tweet fest. He basically on Twitter wrote up the logic behind the mass shootings and guns and whatever. And so I want to talk to him about that. So we have to say that today we've got Matt Walsh coming up. We've got Larry Taunton. Yeah, two big subjects. Two big,
Starting point is 00:02:32 huge subjects of the day. And before we get to the brilliant thing that you said, Albin, because I want people to be waiting with baited breath. By the way, do you know what baited breath means? No, no, tell us. How's it spelled? I think it's B-A-T-E-D. Correct. Yay. Bated, not B-A-I-T-E-D, baited breath, B-A-T-E-D means a baited. A baited breath to abate is to hold on to, right? It's, you know, and so a baited breath means that your breath is, you're holding your breath, waiting, waiting, waiting. So we are waiting with baited breath to hear what Albin has to say on the subject of what is a woman. But while our breath is abated, we got to talk about a couple of things. First of all, Lauren Bobert had to cancel.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So we were going to have her on today or tomorrow. And we can't. And I just want to say to my audience, ladies and gentlemen, she is next level amazing. I told you that when I was in Colorado Springs with Sean Foyt, I heard her speak. It was so fiery and so courageous and so spot on. I thought, man, that woman gives me hope for America. She's a great, great leader and came from nowhere, barely got her high school graduation. She got a GDE, and, you know, she's just kind of an amazing American story.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Lauren Bobert, so we'll have her next week. Carrie Lake, who's running for governor in Arizona. very similar. Yeah. We're going to have her on next week, right? Yep. We have her schedules as well. I didn't know who she was.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And when I went to Mara Lago, I'd like to say that. When I went to Marlago, I was with Mike Lindell, and he starts talking about her. And I had heard of her. She is a true hero. Yeah. And I'd like to say, easy on the eyes, as they say. Easy on the eyes. Well, she was a news reporter or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And I tell you, I'm just so happy that these wonderful people, in this case, two women are running for office. Lauren Bobert has a serious primary coming up because of people in Colorado, you know, the left and the rhinos despise her. And the reason they despise her is because she scares them because she's really good. Same with Carrie Lake. So we'll have them next week. And when you ask the question, what is a woman? Hey, there's two women right there. You know, it's like, that's how tough is that?
Starting point is 00:05:04 That's what a woman is. Okay, I mentioned Mike Lindell. I also want to say, every time I use Mike Lindell's towels, by the way, I purchased them, so they're not really his towels anymore. They're my towels. But I want to say to the audience, because we don't say this often enough, his products are fantastic. They are all made in the United States.
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Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. So I hope you listen to the final five minutes of the show today because it's actually important. And I want you to please share it with your friends and family. And it's whimsical, too. Well, it's whimsical. Let's hope so. Okay. Now, Alvin, you came up with something. I've been dragging this out. Before we get to our guests, talk about what you came up. Okay. When they were grilling, and I've used that word in quotes, grilling the new Supreme Court justice this was a couple months ago. They asked her a straightforward question, which should never have been asked, but these are the times, like you said, that we're living in. They said, well, what is a woman? Does define a woman for us? Now, wait, no, wait a second. I always have to interrupt because I have to say, let's just
Starting point is 00:07:50 appreciate how stupid this is. And I say that most Americans know, if you don't know how stupid this is, you might be stupid. Like, if you don't think it's funny and insane that they're asking a potential Supreme Court justice, what is a woman, how do you process life if you don't see that as crazy? So this really happened. They're grilling her, grilling her, and they ask her, what is a woman? And her response was, I can't say because I'm not a biologist. Right?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I mean, but can you imagine, like, how ridiculous. Yeah. And then right then I thought the follow-up question should have been, are you a woman? Okay. That is brilliant. And that is what I said, we've got to say. Because if they had done that, that would have done exactly what you hope to do, which is because Matt Walsh is going to talk about this. He made a film called What is a Woman. But when you're talking to someone who's kind of crazy woke, they're really crazy in the sense that there's no longer any logic. It's like talking to a crazy person. And some of us have done that. And some of us have done that. You talk to somebody, you go in circles. They don't understand logic. They don't follow the rules of logic. So you'll never get anywhere. But if you can ask the right question, sometimes you can stymie them.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Because if she would have said, well, I know that I'm a woman. He could have said like, well, you're still not a biologist. It's check and mate right there. Actually, I have, I have a, this gets funny. This is like a who's on first Avenue. Yes. You say like, what is a woman? and Judge Katani Brown Jackson says,
Starting point is 00:09:34 I can't answer that because I'm not a biologist. And then you said, you want to ask her, okay, are you a woman? And again, she would have been like, now she's really crippled because how do you answer that? And then he could say, and by the way, when you say you're not a biologist, how do you know you're not a biologist? What is a biologist?
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Starting point is 00:12:04 That's inspireinsight.com. Go there. I'm pretty excited because I get to talk to Matt. Walsh, who's created a film documentary called What Is a Woman? And as you know, we're all tremendously confused. What is a woman? Matt Walsh, welcome and congratulations on this film, which is doing tremendously well. I am thrilled to say.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah, thank you so much. The reaction has been, we were expecting, you know, pretty explosive reaction, but it's actually gone a little bit beyond even what I, what I anticipated. So it's been great. Because you dare to ask the brave question, what is a woman? I just can't believe you're crazy enough to ask that incendiary question. It's a very scary question. You tell my audience, if you don't mind, how you came to make this documentary, because it's just delightful. I heard you talking about it on Dan Bongino's program yesterday. I saw some of the clips. It is very important, but it's also very entertaining.
Starting point is 00:13:20 which is a nice combo. Yeah, and that's the thing about a lot of what we're dealing with with kind of the gender insanity is that on there's sort of layers to it. On the first layer, there's a whole lot of just absurdity that you can't help but laugh at. And that is the appropriate reaction to absurdity, I would say. And then once you get under that first layer, you start to see that the sort of sinister, disturbing stuff lurking onto the surface. And we kind of try to bring that out in the film where you kind of cover both bases of it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But this film comes from, it really kind of goes for me, personally, it goes back several years. It first sort of occurred to me back in, I don't know, 2017, 2018 that this very simple question, what is a woman, has the effect of kind of toppling the whole gender ideology house of cards because it's a question that the left can't answer. And if they can't answer it, then the whole premise doesn't make any sense. Like if a man says, I identify as a woman, but then can't tell you what he means by that, what a woman is, then the whole sentence just to think it's incoherent. There's a clip that's been circulating on the Internet where you talk to some academic.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I don't remember who that is. But he's the one. And where I was surprised is when you ask precisely what you just said. In other words, you know, you ask the question, what is a woman? And he fomphers around, and he's afraid to say anything. I think he's afraid to say one plus one equals two because it might offend someone. He could lose tenure. I don't know what could happen.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But he's afraid to say anything. And then you say, and this is just the genius of your questioning, you say, okay, so let's put that aside. So if a man becomes a woman and you're saying he can become a woman, and he's like, yes, yes. He's say, okay, what is he becoming? It's very funny in a way because it's perfect circularity, but we rarely get to see this in public life. I mean, this is like, you know, Abbott and Costello, who's on first. You rarely get to see this kind of thing. Yeah, we kind of discovered doing the film why it is that we rarely get to see it,
Starting point is 00:15:25 because I think the proponents of this ideology, they realize at some level, especially the ones that are in these institutions, academics, and so on, they realize that this is a facade and that it cannot withstand even the slightest scrutiny. So they usually keep themselves in a bubble, and they avoid any questioning at all. That's the thing about doing this film. I kind of knew that what is a woman is a stumper for these people. So I was expecting to get some evasive answers to that. But what I didn't realize is that every question that you ask is actually a stumper
Starting point is 00:15:55 because they just aren't prepared for any kind of scrutiny. What they are used to and in the bubbles that they kind of live in and operate in, they just make statements and make assertions. And then people nod their heads and say, oh, good for you. And that's it. Then you move on. No one ever stops and says, well, what does that mean? What do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:16:12 And that's kind of really every question in the film is actually just basically that. That's every question is what are you, what exact, what are you trying to say? What is this thing? What are you, what claims are you actually making? What does it mean? And they're not able to explain it because there's just nothing there under the surface of it. Well, what's fascinating to me, and I just have to see this at 50,000 feet, as I watched your conversation with that academic, what fascinates me is the fear. They are afraid.
Starting point is 00:16:43 it's like having, you know, Saddam Hussein at the height of his power. So it's like come in and have a conversation. You'd be scared to death to say anything because he might seize on what you say as a reason for having you tortured and killed. That's what I see in the eyes of these academics. They are just looking around in terror because they know that they don't know anything. So all they can do is lean on sophistry and evasion because if anything actually gets said, that becomes a lever by which they can be catapulted out. Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:19 That's a good point because I have talked about the anger from these people, but you're right that there's fear. Also, there's kind of fear. There's a couple different kinds of fear because we also talk to just average people on the street and ask them a lot of these same questions. And I picked up on a lot of fear there, too, but the fear is different for them. It's like they're afraid of the institutions. They're afraid of people like that professor and others.
Starting point is 00:17:41 they're afraid of if they say, you know, if they say what they actually think, that they'll be canceled, they'll have their lives ruined. A lot of people told me that, you know, that's why they're not in the film because they said, I can't talk about this,
Starting point is 00:17:51 because then I'll lose my job and so on. So there's fear there, but then there's also the kind of defensive fear, I suppose, and within the institutions where they're trying to protect the secret that actually none of this means anything is all nonsense.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And so you could tell that there's fear there too. I think you're right. I guess I'm wondering, again, I'm looking at the 15th, thousand-foot level, but you realize that what we're dealing with here is a war on reality, which is a war on God. When you bring up truth or reality, you can't do science, you can't do math. We have to at some point agree on something, but these people have painted themselves into a corner that's the size of a point. They do not have any place to stand. There's no place
Starting point is 00:18:41 from which you can find any common ground. And that's what you show in the film, that they, they don't know anything. They don't believe anything. And honestly, I don't think most of them are aware of this. In other words, I think that they're just kind of, they live in this ether, but they're not aware of it somehow. Yeah. I think you're a thousand percent right that this is a war on reality itself.
Starting point is 00:19:05 That's what I've been, you know, preaching for so long. That's actually what is happening here. the gender ideology is one, I think it's probably right now the most crucial front in this general role war over reality itself. And that's why the other thing that happened in these conversations is that pretty much every single one quickly devolved into this kind of, I felt like I was talking to Punch his pilot all the time, like what is truth? And every single one, that's what it turned into. Well, who's truth are we talking about? What reality? You know, they won't even assent to the fact that we have a shared reality. I'm sitting.
Starting point is 00:19:40 and I pointed to this out at least one of the interviews, like, I'm sitting in a room with you right now. There must be some kind of shared reality that we're operating in. And they wouldn't affirm that, which is especially concerning considering some, you know, I was talking to a doctor. And well, hold on a second. If you're a doctor and you're giving medical treatment, then I certainly hope that we're in the same reality. Because if we're not, then does your medical treatment work in my reality or just yours? So that's what it quickly just turns into it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 They don't want, what they want to establish is that we all get our own. own reality, our own universe, our own truth, and we can define everything for ourselves, including and starting with our biological identity. But then you kind of want to ask them, I don't know if I'm misusing the term, but like you're looking for a hermeneutical lever. You're looking for like a place where you can say, okay, so if I can declare anything and you should believe me, where do you get that idea from? Where does the idea come from that what I assert about myself is worthy of respect. Like, tell me where you get that idea from, because that's the idea. Where do you get it from? Yeah, I think that's true. They're constantly,
Starting point is 00:20:48 that's why there's this never-ending parade of self-contradictions that goes on. And that's one of them, because when they say, well, you should affirm a trans person, any claim they make, they're obviously appealing to or attempting to appeal to some kind of shared truth or what they claim is a shared truth. Because that's one of the problems. That if we all have our own truth, then, well, okay, well, then can't I say, even if I were to agree with that,
Starting point is 00:21:14 that we all have our own truth, which I don't. But if I did, then, okay, you're saying you're a man claiming you're a woman, but that's in your truth. In my truth, you're still a man. So don't you have to respect my truth about you? Just like, I have to respect your truth.
Starting point is 00:21:26 It just doesn't make any sense, but that's what you get caught up in. It's just this kind of like snake eating its own tail circle of contradiction. It's funny to bring up a snake eating its own tail because the cover of my most recent book is a snake eating its own tail. It's called Is Atheism Dead? And it's about the self-refuting quality of everything other than truth, right? It eventually eats itself, but we rarely get to see it eat itself.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We're at a point now where the madness has extended so far that you can just sit back and ask a question and watch a person, in effect, logically consume himself. There's just no, there's, he has no ability. It's kind of like there's no ground of being. There's just no place to stand. He just wants the interview to end because he's afraid of what you might ask next or something like that. Did you have any encounters? Well, actually, we're going to a break. Folks, I hope you've heard about it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 If you haven't heard about it other than now, hear about it now. There's a film out. You should see it. What is a woman? It's a documentary. It's brilliant. It's revealing. Matt Walsh is the filmmaker, and we will continue with him on the other side of the break. Daily Wire is whom we have to thank for this film other than Matt Walsh. I'm just cheering them on. We'll be right back. Well, I ask him while he shine my shoe. How to keep him getting the blues? He grinned as he raised his little hit. He popped his shoe shine ragging. And he said, get rhythm. when you get the blues, come on get rhythm. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis
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Starting point is 00:24:00 to your house. Call Legacy at 866-528-1903 or visit them online at LegacyPMInvestments.com. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Matt Walsh, who has made a film called What is a Woman? Matt, what is your story? How did you get to a place where you're making a documentary called What is a Woman? Where do you come from? Where did you grow up and what got you thinking along these lines? You know, I grew up in a conservative Christian household. But that's kind of one of the things that's come up as we've made this film. And people have asked me, you know, what your stance on this, on gender ideology and so on, is that rooted in your faith?
Starting point is 00:24:54 And in a sense, the answer is yes. And in a sense that everything that I do is rooted in my faith because it's a very, it's the deepest level of who I am. But then at another level, it's true that, like, this is just a basic reality that I don't think you have to be a Christian to understand that men are men and women are women. It's like you don't have to be a Christian understanding that 2 plus 2 equals 4 and so on. So that's kind of my background. But even if I grew up in a, you know, liberal household or something, I think this reality would still be or should still be completely obvious. And, you know, of course, I've been, I've hosted a podcast and so on and done that.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And I've kind of been engaging on this issue on that level, giving my opinion about it, giving speeches and doing all that kind of thing. I think all that's important, obviously, I still do it. But it became clear to me that if we want to reach like a larger audience with this message and get beyond kind of a conservative podcast sphere, we might have to approach it differently. And that's kind of the idea behind making a film and also the idea behind the way that we approached it, which was rather than me going out and doing what I really viscerally wanted to do, which is just argue with people. Rather than do that, just go out and let them talk, ask questions. If I really want to reveal, as we've been talking about, how totally vacuous this ideology is, rather than me asserting it and yelling it at people,
Starting point is 00:26:15 I thought it would be better to let them reveal it for themselves. And so that's how we kind of settled on our approach for the film. Well, that's what's so delightful about it and so entertaining. It really is, you know, theater in the sense that you're just dying to know how is this person going to answer this question, given the insane parameters that they've put on themselves or that they've accepted? Why do you suppose these folks even assented to the idea of an interview? That itself is interesting to me, that they would be willing to have a conversation on this subject. I would think that they just want to avoid it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, that is interesting. And also part of the question there, is that everyone we talked to, even the ones that ended up leaving, for instance, we talked to a congressman and he got up and left, which you see. But they still sat there for a while and kept talking. I think, I don't know exactly, I guess is the answer to the question. I think that maybe there's kind of, these are people that live in a bubble like we talked about. And in that bubble, it's almost like unimaginable that anybody would actually ask a skeptical question.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And so they feel sort of protected in that bubble, which is one of the reasons why I've been saying, and I'm not very optimistic about a lot of things, but I am optimistic about this, at least long term. I think gender ideology is beatable. I think this is a war that we can really win because, as we discover making the film, the proponents of this ideology are they're weak. You know, they're intellectually just weak because they haven't been tested. Whereas for us, on the other side of it, we live in a culture that's against us. We constantly have to be sort of fine-tuning our arguments, and we're constantly being tested. They're not tested at all. They're just not prepared for it. So all it takes is a little bit of a backbone on our side to just stand up and ask some questions and watch the thing fall apart. Well, also, we happen to have reality and truth on our side. I mean, you know, whether you know it or not, you do. You know, it's like talking about math or science. If you want to send a rocket to the moon, you're going to have to deal with science and reality.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You can't make it up. And that's kind of where we are in a lot of. of these places where they're making stuff up, but it can only go so far. I'm not sure what you do with it. But it, I mean, I think we have to be honest and say it's a kind of madness. They are unmoored from reality. It reminds me of, you know, when I wrote about Bonhoeffer and the Nazis, you know, they had Nazi science, right? They kind of had this fiction that there's Jewish science and then there's Aryan science. And you realize, okay, you can you can chew on that for a few years, but eventually
Starting point is 00:28:59 you're going to be in trouble. Eventually, you're going to see that there's actual science and actual facts. And so it's kind of like you can fool people for a while, but eventually this thing called reality intrudes. It's inescapable. And that's to me, part of the delight
Starting point is 00:29:16 of the film, is that you see these people in a sense, you're forcing them to deal with that a little bit. Yeah, I think what you said about how we have the advantage of the we have truth on our side. I totally agree, which is why... I think that should be our starting point.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You know, that should be the main thing that we're sort of hitting on. And that's why when people ask me and I get this question in the film, get it all the time, which is like, well, why do you care about this so much, right? Which is a slight a hand trick, because the other side,
Starting point is 00:29:47 they're constantly telling us that we should care about these kinds of issues, right? They're doing pride parades and everything. But then when we do care about it in the wrong way, they say, whoa, you shouldn't even care. well, the answer number one, the number one answer why I care is that I care about the truth. You know, the truth matters. And it's the sort of intrinsic value of truth itself.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That should be the basis of our argument. And then from there we get into, you know, the rights, privacy rights of women in locker rooms, defending children. All that stuff is extremely important, obviously. But it starts with the truth itself and then the rest of it, I think, grows from there. Do you have time for one more segment or do you have to go? I should have time for one more. Okay. How do people see this film in case they're just tuning in?
Starting point is 00:30:31 What's the best way for them to see it? You go to What Is a Woman.com, and you can go there or just go to Dailywire.com, and it's... Dailywire or What Is a Woman. Dot com. Folks, we'll be right back with Matt Walsh. It seems to me some fine things have been laid up, but you can't get desperado. You're painting. Hey there, folks.
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Starting point is 00:32:00 The offer will not last long, so order now with promo code Eric at MyPillow.com or call 800-978-3057. 800-978-3057. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Matt Walsh, who's made a film and documentary called What Is a Woman? Matt, it's funny. You understand that just the question is hilarious. This came up most recently when Katani Brown Jackson was being grilled, grilled, not really, by the Senate asking your questions. She couldn't answer the question.
Starting point is 00:32:45 She, a woman who is now Supreme Court. Justice was unable because of these bizarre strictures that we are imposing on ourselves in this crazy culture. She was unable to answer this. In other words, she is the product of a lot of what we're talking about. And she is now sitting on the Supreme Court. Yeah. And of course, if you were to ask Kataji Jackson, you know, do you care about women's rights? She would say, well, of course I do, right? But then, well, what are, what, what, is that exactly? What's a woman? Oh, I don't know. So how can you care about it if you don't even know what it is? But of course, as you point out, she knows the answer, but it's just she also
Starting point is 00:33:29 knows what the rules are and she's trying to operate within it. And then you go to this totally ridiculous appeal to authority, this credentialism thing where you have to have the right credential to be to even make a statement on this. And of course, they say that. Meanwhile, like there are plenty of biologists and actual scientists out there who will still say a woman is an adult human female. And if they say that, then the very same people who said appeal to the biologist will then accuse the biologist of transphobia. So no matter what, they're always going to come back to their conclusion. It's called lying. We've seen it before. It's kind of when you have a guilty kid and they make up a lie to cover the other lie and the
Starting point is 00:34:05 other lie and the other lie. And it only goes so far. You can't live that way. You'll go to prison. But that's kind of what we're seeing. And it gets back to what I said earlier that there's fear. They know that Katani Brown Jackson, she knew that if she said anything definitive in answering what is a woman, that she would be attacked by these crazy ideologues. And so who are these ideologues? I mean, did you encounter any of them that were particularly radical? Who is enforcing this bizarre ideology? We, yeah, we talked to, we certainly ran into people on the street. We went, we were in the San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:34:52 We were in the Castro district that we ran into the kind of activist types there. In the film, we do talk to someone who works for a kind of trans, quote unquote, trans rights lobbyist group in D.C. And what we encountered in that interview was not so much this kind of like rabid, going to yell in your face type of thing. but more this kind of programmed robotic has the lines down, has the talking points, and just sticks to them no matter what. And I think that's the sort of thing that is motivating a lot of it, these kind of activist groups, lobbyist groups in D.C., that lies behind a lot of it. There's also, we get into in the film a little bit, in terms of what motivates this,
Starting point is 00:35:39 there's also the profit motive, which I think sometimes gets overlooked. but that's pretty significant in that, you know, the pharmaceutical companies, the therapists, counselors, the doctors, there's a lot of money to be made in gender confusion in general, especially for kids, in infusing that into kids. And so I think that also is part of the story. It's interesting, though, to look for antecedents. I mean, you kind of have to say, where did this come from? What is this?
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's not even, you know, if you want to talk about homosexuality or whatever, you can look back and you can have some sense of where it comes from or where these ideas come from. This strikes me as, you know, genuinely bizarre that suddenly it's a thing. I had a doctor here in New York. Secular doctor. I think he knew he could ask me a question. And he said, can I ask you a politically incorrect question? young guy successful in Manhattan. He says, you know, I had a patient come on, a 12-year-old, and it wants to be called a they.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Now, this doctor says to me, do you, is this a thing? Is this, do you think this is real? Where was this when we were kids? And I was just thrilled to see him kind of looking around thinking, I'm not buying this. What is this? Do you have a sense of what this is, where this idea? came from why suddenly we're talking about pronouns when for many, many, many centuries we were not
Starting point is 00:37:13 talking about this? Yeah, I think, well, you run into a little bit anytime you're trying to trace the origin of any sort of evil, like if you want to go back far enough, you end up, you know, the fall of man. But if you want to get a little bit more targeted and narrow it down a bit, we get into briefly in the film, and this is a whole subject that could have its own film. We talk about the beginnings of gender ideology in their current. form, and that goes back to guys like Alfred Kinsey and especially John Money, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:43 the kind of sexologist and psychiatrist and psychoanalyst in the mid-20th century. You know, you can, you can take any of these terms and ideas and actually look at the person who came up with this stuff. John Money came up with the idea of gender identity. He coined the term. The idea that you can, you know, we have a sex and a gender. There are two different things, and this is all socially constructed and so on and so forth. And they largely, I think, are responsible for much of the.
Starting point is 00:38:07 this. And they were also horrible, horrendous people and just, we go into some of the horror stories there with them. But I think they came up with these kinds of things and they were kind of bubbling out of the surface for a long time. They were making their way kind of seating in the institutions, making the way into the institutions, the academic institutions especially. And then there was, it seemed to be kind of a moment back in, you know, maybe 10 years ago or more recently, when, when all this stuff that was already there kind of exploded into the mainstream, you know, if you want to look at a moment there, I think that Bruce Jenner, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:38:41 coming out as a woman and then being declared woman of the year, that was kind of maybe the mainstream moment where this all made its way into the mainstream. And so, you know, you find these kind of landmarks along the way, but it is something that's been in our culture for, you know, longer than maybe it seems. I was just going to say that, you know, the Bruce Jenner was having to mean the,
Starting point is 00:39:04 the room with Bruce Jenner in his more recent incarnation as Caitlin Jenner. And my heart breaks because there's this moment of horror and then there's a moment of, I think, sadness when you realize that there are people who are genuinely profoundly troubled and instead of helping them, we're feeding the trouble. It's kind of like saying schizophrenia is a good thing. Didn't you know that? Don't ever speak against schizophrenia. It is heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And so I'm just grateful to you for making the film, for bringing attention to this. Folks, the film is What is a Woman? And thanks to Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire, it exists, and you get to go see it. Matt Walsh, congratulations, and thank you. Now they only block the sun. So many things I could have done. The clouds got in my way. Hey, folks, you've lucked out.
Starting point is 00:40:22 You've lucked out. If you're listening to me right now, you have lucked out. Lucky you, because I'm going to share, I was thinking of calling it rant of the week. Oh, no. Yes. Like where I get a, I get a bee in my bonnet, perhaps not literally, but a bee in my bonnet metaphorically. And I say, I've just got to share this with the group. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I got to share this with the group. So I'll represent the group. Yes. You represent the group by being here, but everyone listening, I'm thinking of you as my encounter. group. It's kind of like a 60s Gestalt therapy thing. And I just want to share some stuff. I want to get some stuff off my chest. I'll bring the fondue. And I'm going to bring, yes, and I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:41:00 some stuff off my chest. Okay, number one, now listen carefully, because everything I say is simply true. I've noticed this that there are certain habits that people fall into culturally. One of them, I've shared about this before, but I want to hit this again, so everyone listening has no excuse. Are you
Starting point is 00:41:21 ready for this? You ready, folks? When somebody says thank you, more and more people respond incorrectly. When you say thank you, people say, no problem. Yeah. Let me just say, I know it's not a problem, and I don't need you to tell me that it's not a problem. Okay? That's the wrong response. Young people especially are guilty of saying, no problem.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Like if you're my waiter and I say thank you and you say no problem, it's like, yeah, it's no problem. you're being paid for this and I'm probably going to tip you. So no problem is not the right response. If somebody says thank you, your response ought to be, you're welcome. Right. This happened to Ann and I, we were out to dinner and sure enough. And there you go. Another problem. But yep, the woman said, no problem. And I said to Ann, that's one of Eric's bugaboos. It's become, this is the thing. It's like, I was saying to Suzanne last night, a lot of people's talk is just chatter. They're not really thinking about what they say. It's just kind of this automatic blah, blah, blah stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And the no problem is one of those. Like, no problem, no problem. No problem is wrong. The response is, you're welcome. Thank you, you're welcome. Or you're quite welcome. I like that one. Or my pleasure.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Okay, you've got some options. But no problem is a problem. Okay. That's the first part of my rant. The second part of the rant, and this, I find this hilarious. This, I'm, listen, I'm a cultural observer. I've noticed these things and also because I'm a writer, I notice words. I notice this that you go to a hotel or you're in a restaurant usually.
Starting point is 00:43:00 And it's people who are serving you somehow. And they've picked up on this idea that things are more elegant if they use the future tense. So they say, thank you, sir. Now, the elevators are going to be down the hall and to your left. And I'm thinking they're going to be. You mean they're not there now? they say, yeah, no, the elevators are going to be. It's like, no, no, no, you mean the elevators are?
Starting point is 00:43:27 Because they're there now. They were installed 25 years ago. The elevators are down the hall, whatever. But people say going to be, right? Or they say, I'm going to be your server for the evening. And I'm thinking, no, you actually are now. You're standing here now talking to me in the role of my server or my waiter or waitress, whatever it is. But they say, I'm going to be today.
Starting point is 00:43:50 or they say the special tonight is going to be, like it's 8 o'clock at night. Yeah. The special is going to be or the special is going to be on the left side of the menu or the it's like, no, no, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, it is welcome to the present. We're here now. And we want you to acknowledge that. So don't say the elevators are going to be down the hall.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You say the elevators are down the hall. Don't say, I am going to be your servant. you are my server now, right now. But I've noticed this. When you go to restaurants, you can notice especially young people, they fall into this trap of thinking it's somehow a little bit more upscale,
Starting point is 00:44:29 a little bit more elegant to use the future tense. That, ladies and gentlemen, is wrong. Yeah, thank you. Okay, it's going to be wrong, and it is wrong right now. Don't let it happen again. Thank you. No problem.

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