The Eric Metaxas Show - Mel K (Encore)

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Mel K Names Names on our Threat to Democracy. Her book is out now: Americans Anonymous : Restoring Power to the People One Citizen at a Time ...

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Starting point is 00:00:57 I am flying down to Washington, D.C. soon. We have a Socrates event tonight. I'm going to preserve my voice for that. I'm speaking about Bonhofer at the Museum of the Bible. If you want to go, you. You can get tickets at Socrates in the city.com. There's going to be a sneak preview, a screening of the Bonhoeffer film tonight. The whole film, it's amazing. I will speak after that about Bonhoffer. Tomorrow, I fly to Boise, Idaho. I'm on the road.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Last night, two nights ago, of course, I was the privilege, had the privilege of being with President Trump. Last night, or yesterday afternoon, I'm in New York, and I saw that Steve Bannon was holding a press conference. And I said, even though I don't feel well, I need to be there. I want to shake his hand. I want to thank him for being an American hero, patriot. What he's been put through as a political prisoner, if you don't find it, vile. If you don't find it disgusting, you are not paying attention and you're not being helpful. I just want to say that when this kind of stuff happens in America, if you are not scandalized by it,
Starting point is 00:02:18 you don't know what it means to be an American because every American should be sickened and scandalized by this kind of thing. So I went, I was there. The press behaved despicably, as you'd expect, really, really despicably. But there were a number of folks in the room. It was good to see. My friend Naomi Wolf, my publisher, Tony Lyons with Skyhorse, was there. The great Roger Kimball was there and a few others. And it was just an encouragement and a blessing to see what God is doing in America,
Starting point is 00:02:57 knitting together rather disparate people who seem to understand the existential crisis in which we find ourselves, who seem to understand where we are in history. This is an historic moment. If ever there was one in any of our lifetimes, we are living in an historic moment. If you don't vote in this election, please don't ever listen to this radio program again or read any of my books. this is the battle for Helms Deep. This is about defeating fascism and Marxism. And the people who are fascists and Marxists, of course, they have no arguments.
Starting point is 00:03:39 So they have to say that our side are fascists or Nazis. It's so preposterous. It's so sick. It's so ridiculous. But that's where we are. That's all they have. Biden, you know, said that those who vote for Trump are garbage. Okay. So I guess that means Jack Nicholas and Bill Ackerman and Naomi Wolf and Mike Tyson and RFK Jr. We're all garbage.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Can you imagine how out of touch somebody must be and how ridiculous somebody must be even to say such a thing to the United States? Yeah, the other thing that's unique about this election. is, you know, say what you want about Trump first to go around. He didn't really know what he was doing in terms of wanting to drain the swamp, wanting to reduce inefficiencies in the government. And he had people that were not good actors in his administration. And now he's learned a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And it's not a vote for Donald Trump. It's a vote for Donald Trump. It's a vote for Elon Musk. It's a vote for J.D. Vance. It's a vote for Tultzky-Gabert. It's a vote for Vivek. It's all these people, RFK Jr., like, it's unbelievable. It's like the, you know, the Avengers or the X-Men or Voltron or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's not just a Trump choice. It's these, you know, he's bringing in basically it's a 92 All-Star, you know, NBA All-Star team that came in and swept the Olympics. Like, it's unbelievable. Well, and again, the Democrats are so desperate, all they can do is shout Nazi, Hitler. That's how pathetic it is. They have no arguments. They have no policies. They're just, they're broken.
Starting point is 00:05:22 let's be honest, they're broken and they're desperate. They're flailing around trying to take the whole country down with them. Well, it's also this idea that the polls have shifted, and now the Republicans are the party of free speech. You know, they're the party of, you know. Well, the party of unions, the party of African-class Americans, the party of African-American, a party of black men, the party of Hispanic men.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And that's how things, that's so interesting what Bannon shared yesterday in his remarks. I recorded everything, of course. We're not going to do anything with it probably. But I was there. It was amazing. I want to say also, before we get to the good news, Lila Rose, who is someone I've known for years. She has been heroic in the pro-life movement. She has done a really terrible thing, as far as I can tell.
Starting point is 00:06:16 she's advocating that pro-lifers don't need to vote in this election. That is a level of insanity, a level of foolishness that is heartbreaking. Heartbreaking, because I want to tell you, folks, if you don't vote, you make it possible for evil to triumph. It's kind of like saying, well, all I care about is pro-life. So I'm not going to vote in this election. And then actually Hitler is elected. And then, you know, the Third Reich rises. And you're going to have bigger things to worry about this.
Starting point is 00:06:46 the unborn. They're going to come for the born. They're going to come for everybody. You know, you have to see things in the bigger picture. So it is amazing to me that people could be so myopic. And what it tells you, of course, is that they do not understand the moment we're in, which is more than tragic. It's kind of pathetic because this is not some mere election. This is an existential crisis, as I say in my book, Religinalist Christianity. I hope you'll get a copy. religionless Christianity. But so people who don't get that, and they say, I'm a single-issue voter, and Trump hasn't done what I want.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And it's like, you know what? You really don't get it, because if Kamala Harris is elected, you're going to find out what the meaning of abortion on demand is Lila Rose. Heartbreaking to share that. Okay, just in wonderful news, we have the Socrates 25th anniversary. Celebration Gala is December 10th here in New York City. If you can come, more and more exciting people are going to be there last night. Everyone I was talking to is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's going to be exciting. And the Conversations book is coming out that night, too. So that's a two-for-one. The conversations, the Socrates Conversations book, you can pre-order a copy if you can't get to the event. Pre-order a copy at Eric Mataxis.com. because you get 20% off. But what a book.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Oh, my gosh. When you see the book, you'll see. It's just so beautiful. And the stuff in it is treasures, treasures, treasures. The cruise, I got great news this morning. Albin is coming on the cruise. Albin and Ann are coming on the cruise. I am just so happy.
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Starting point is 00:09:28 I still can't believe it's happening, but it's happening. I want to remind everybody that if you're not signed up for my weekly newsletter. You're missing a lot of stuff. I just, you know, the photos with President Trump the other day, my photos with Steve Bannon yesterday, a lot of the stuff that we just don't get to talk about on this program because I'm normally talking to guests. Speaking of which, in a moment, we're going to re-air my amazing conversation, get ready, with Mel Kay. Mel Kay, she is a hero, a hero. And after that, another hero, Katie,
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Starting point is 00:12:05 silver trump coins or a 10 ounce silver American flag bar with every qualifying IRA. That's noble gold investments.com. Hey, folks, welcome back. I think I said this last time I had my guest Mel Kay on the program that I knew it hit the big time when my cousin Yangos in Greece in Kefalonia said to me, wow, you got, you know, you got Mel Kay on your program. Like I finally had earned his respect. And I said that on the air.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Of course, I get an email from Yangos like, Eric. you know, you know, I respected you, but before that, and, you know, he didn't get my sense of humor. We've only been cousins for like a million years. No, it's just, but it is funny because it fascinated me that in Greece, who is listening to what, and he is aware of Mel Kay. This just tells you, folks, something is going on in the whole world. It's not just in the United States of America. It gives me great hope.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And so with that said, my guest, Mel Kay, welcome back. Well, thank you for having me. That's very exciting about Greece. I love that. Yeah. Oh, totally. There's people all over the world. I mean, I remember I was in Romania a few years ago speaking in Romania. And a number of people came up to me and said they listened to this program. I said, I'm in Romania and young people listen to my program in Romania. It's just extraordinary. But it's, you know better than anybody that we are living in an extraordinary moment in history. You have a book out. I want to tell people it's brand new. It's called Americans Anonymous, restoring power to the people, one citizen at a time. So it's fundamentally an American movement, but it really does affect the whole world. We're seeing stuff all around the world, that there is a revolution against the global cultural elites. And you have been a voice for this revolution. Yeah. And I think.
Starting point is 00:14:14 think that we have to realize that, you know, Donald Trump often says they're not after me, they're after you, and I'm in the way. I firmly believe they're not after America. They're after the world and America is in the way. And if you look at it that way and then watch what has happened to our country, this controlled demolition of America from all sides, you realize that it is the American Constitution, the American people, our Bill of Rights and are standing up in our DNA to tyranny that is the one thing that is stopping the globalist billionaire, that run the global public-private partnership that I call the parent company, that fears that they cannot achieve what they'd like to achieve if the American people continue
Starting point is 00:14:54 to stand on our principles and our founding documents. We are actually protecting the world right now from global totalitarian tyranny. What is so interesting to me, I know you know Roseanne Barr, that there are people like Roseanne who have woken up fairly recently in the last, I don't know, eight years. There are a lot of people like that. Some of them high profile like Roseanne and others, but there are people finally waking up.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Things got so bad and so out in the open that people who had just been going along, and to some extent I'm one of them, you know, I was like a fan of George W. Bush and Mike Pence, and I have woken up. And it's sort of horrifying to wake up to see what you see, but at the same time, it's empowering to use the cliche word of the century. It's important that we wake up, that we face what we're facing. And you're
Starting point is 00:15:49 helping a lot of people process this. What you just said even like the controlled demolition, that needs to be said more often. I've said it, but not the way you just put it. Most people, if you're looking around at what's happening to America, I mean, to let 20 million strangers in, 20 million strangers, some of whom are dedicated enemies of America. They're not just like poor people looking for a chance. These are dedicated enemies gaming the system and coming in. That is intentionally designed, and we have to, this is my question to you, by whom, to destroy this nation, not just to destroy our literal southern border, but to destroy our sovereignty, our sense of who we are as a people. That's been happening all over the country.
Starting point is 00:16:37 That's just one rather obvious example of that. But it is controlled demolition. Who exactly is behind this? I mean, it's always difficult to have a sense because you get the idea that there are people going along with it for their own reasons. I mean, it's kind of like, how did Nazi Germany? How did that happen? Not everybody was architecting the whole thing, but there are people willing to kind of look the other way and allowing evil to happen. But then there are people actually at the top, you know, wargaming this, figuring out how we can destroy the nation, how we can take over.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So who are those people, if you could say? Well, first we have to realize, and this is a big part of why I chose the recovery model for the book to begin with, is because a lot of Americans, but people around the world do not know our actual history. And they do not know a lot of what happened after World War II, and certainly the murder of JFK in 1963 really was the start of a true coup in this country. And ever since, the powers that be in our nation have systematically chipped away at our liberty and our freedom while at the same time covering up true history and facts that the American people should have known about, and we did not. So first you have to really look at the big picture, which is the Rockefeller, Kissinger, Brasinski crown creation of the United Nations,
Starting point is 00:18:07 and what really that was about. And the truth is that Kissinger and Brzezinski both were working together to come up with an idea for global governance, for a top-down global governance. And they had tried it before, and they've tried other things. But now they have rolled in the U.N., which Rockefeller paid for, basically. Now, hold on. Let's talk about timing, because this is the 70s. No, this is the 40s and 50s after World War II is when Rockefeller... Kisinger was a nobody in the 40s and the 50s.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, but after World War II, the 40s and the 50s. So we had everyone come over from Operation Paperclip. We had a lot, which was the transfer of many Nazis and high-level Germans into our institutions. From there, we also had the birth of the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission and all of these things over decades. But the big picture was that the idea of regional governments, instead of nation states would allow this so-called superclass, which kind of came out of Chatham House and out of the Council of Foreign Relations,
Starting point is 00:19:18 the idea that a moneyed elite kind of aristocracy was who would be running the country, but that the people of this nation would believe that we were a sovereign nation state. But the way that they had worked it out was that regionalization was the best way for the global governance. I call them the global public-private partnership. or the stakeholders, as they call themselves, to actually exert power and control above governments. So this has been going on for decades. The first one actually came when Kissinger recruited Klaus Schwab at Harvard, put him into place at the World Economic Forum to kind of lead the way to the first regionalized government,
Starting point is 00:20:04 which is the EU. Okay, so Kistinger was at Harvard in the 60s. Right, and he recruited through a CIA program, Klaus Schwab, who was there in 1971, to come aboard to create the actual World Economic Forum and put Klaus Schwab into place. So there's a lot of history from that period of time that people don't fully understand about America. And then the other side of that was when George H.W. Bush walked on the floor of the United Nations, and said that we were entering a new world order led by the United Nations. He meant this. We all thought that he meant, oh, kumbaya, we're going to all get along.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But really what he meant was we are going to be taking over from above. So what they've done over decades is created a situation where we have a group of globalist billionaire oligarchs that basically run America as a parent company from above our government. and many of them are also members of the Council of Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, Multinational Corporation Boards, and I call it the international banking cartel, but their banking sector that is above the UN. And over decades, they have been far more powerful in pushing policy,
Starting point is 00:21:23 funding the lobbyists, funding the think tanks, all of this stuff. And as it's gone on and been allowed to manifest into a gigantic bureaucracy, we the people of the United States have watched and allowed it to happen, knowing that there was something above our government that was really pushing it, that the people were losing more and more power. They weren't to the point where right now we don't even make it into the mix. And if you understand the beginnings of it, this idea that nation states, the whole point was that nation states don't work for this group of billionaire oligarchs.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And the way that they do it is they exercise. global governance through what are called conferences or meetings, such as Davos, the COP conferences, the Bilderberg conferences. All these conferences are really all the same people that make up this 0.001% of globalists that now identify themselves as world stakeholders. And frankly, the most powerful one in America right now is Larry Fink of BlackRock, who also happens to be on the board of the World Economic Forum and is the architect, one of the architect, of the Great Reset and ESG, but also on the Board of the Council of Foreign Relations. Also, BlackRock being the only company in the world that is allowed to freely,
Starting point is 00:22:42 apparently, work in the communist Chinese, you know, model over there that is some kind of mixture of capitalism and communism. And over the decades, go ahead. No, I'm just going to say, we're going to go to a break. This is a lot to take in, folks, but it's very, very important. I'm talking to Mel Kay, brand new book, Americans Anonymous. Can you imagine your child being lost alone in the woods for nine days? The new movie Lost on a Mountain in Maine, produced by Sylvester Stallone, is the inspiring true story of 12-year-old Don Fendler, separated from his family in a fast-moving storm and lost in the remote wilderness of northern Maine.
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Starting point is 00:25:26 K, just the letter K, like in Kafka. Americans Anonymous is the book. And so, you know, listening to you, it's like drinking from a fire hose. This is so important. I assume you reprise this history in the book, Americans Anonymous. Yeah, I have a huge section because a lot of people that have been through recovery or no people that have. There's a term called Sick as Our Secrets, which is a big part of delving inside and taking
Starting point is 00:25:54 an account of exact nature of your wrongs. That is a pivotal part of recovering from any addiction. And my premise in the book is that the American people have become addicted to conflict and chaos, but that it's not an accident. This is by design to divide, to distract, to demoralize, all of these things so that we don't see this capture. America right now is captured by a global public-private partnership that sees themselves as the arbiters of the future. And that future, to them, includes them controlling the behavior of humanity into the direction of which they want,
Starting point is 00:26:32 which is called by them the Fourth Industrial Revolution or Agenda 2030, which Obama signed the United States onto in 2015 without our consent, without explaining what it was, and without delving into it. Well, I delve into it in the book. And I also go through, Sick is Our Secrets, many things that have happened along the way that were either covered up, spun, you know, especially when Barack Obama reversed the Smith-Munt Act with the Smith-Mut Modernization Act
Starting point is 00:27:05 and allowed propaganda to be used against we, the people of the United States, if the executive branch saw it necessary, which, of course, we all saw during climate, COVID and the election. So what we've had is a skewed reality in terms of our past and how we got here. And at this point, go ahead. No, I'm just going to say part of this is you're ethnically Jewish, right? Yes. Okay. Roseanne Barr is ethnically Jewish. Yes. What happens, part of the reason a lot of people have tuned out from a lot of the stuff we're
Starting point is 00:27:36 talking about when you hear about the Bilderbergs and you hear about it is because a lot of anti-Semites, It's a lot of Jew haters. They write away, it's about the Jews. So Kissinger is a Jew, blah, blah, blah, they quickly shunt it over into that, which, of course, I will tune out because, you know, I worship Jesus. I believe he was a Jew. He was either Jewish or French Belgian. I never get it right. So I'm not about to buy into anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:28:05 So I want to be clear because it's very interesting. The reason a lot of people tune out on this stuff, it sounds like, oh, you know, Yeah, conspiracy theories that are that are just like, it's about the Jews. So I want to be clear, it's not about the Jews. Many Jews have been involved, just as many Jews are involved like you in the solution against this kind of stuff. But I want to be clear because, you know, over the years when people mentioned Bilderbergs and, you know, trilateral commission and stuff, it's like the secret cabal run by the Jews.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And, you know, you get people who kind of play on that. Yeah, I mean, that's disappointing. But honestly, it's a manipulation and a distraction. It's part of the cognitive warfare. It's part of the divide and conquer. Because what we're dealing with now is very similar to what was in the book 1984. The global billionaire oligarchy that are running the operation, I call Agenda 2030, they don't have allegiance to any flag, to any people, to any nation, to any religion.
Starting point is 00:29:00 That is not true. These are people from all over. There are players in the billionaire oligarchy from China, from Russia, from America, from Yugoslavia, from Ukraine. from North Korea, they're all over the world. This is about a class, not about a religion or a race or a country. The whole goal of Agenda 2030 is to end nation states. It is stated in their first thing.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Nation states no longer work. Global problems equal global solutions. Global solutions need a global governance. They decided that they are the global governance that the world needs. It is really about the control of the money all the way up to the Bank of international settlements, which below them are the IMF and the World Bank, that are feeding even our, you know, most people aren't aware that our 12 Federal Reserve Chairman, governors, presidents. They go over the Bank of International settlements every couple years to get marching orders. Why is nobody asking what is the Bank of International settlements? Because what I've found is that this Bank of International settlements has been paying for both sides of almost every war. They are where everything goes when the IMF, goes and captures a country after devastation and gives them loans they can never pay back and then seizes their natural resources, where is that money going? I believe the Bank of International
Starting point is 00:30:21 settlements. For whatever reason, this bank in Switzerland is treated like the Vatican. They are totally immune. No one can look into them. They have complete basically free control over markets worldwide. They control our Federal Reserve and the central banks. So that's one thing. And they are aligned directly with the World Economic Forum and the UN, who are partners and have been since Kofi Annan. And really what we're dealing with is a group of people, no allegiance to any nation or religion or flag or anything. They truly have deemed themselves the superclass, the gods of this planet. And their goal has a lot to do with natural resources. And this is something people leave out when they're watching the controlled demolition of America and they're seeing
Starting point is 00:31:09 our farmland bought and they're seeing our borders open and all of this. There's another part to this. Their whole plan that we're dealing with now, which is why this election is so important, requires for the 17th sustainable development goals to be achieved that everyone on planet earth basically has to be monitored, tracked, and trace and surveilled from birth to death. They have built something called the digital public infrastructure. This is basically what they were trying to push us onto with the COVID vaccine passport. Well, that failed. Now they are on it to a new thing with the climate trace passport. And then they're on to the new thing with the universal global ID. And if you read down all the 17 development goals, they all require birth to death
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Starting point is 00:34:38 is because we, the people in the United States of America, have allowed ourselves to to become ignorant of our founding documents of the vision of the founders. If you kind of take that for granted and you just live your life, you find that you drift away from that. So we've been drifting for decades away from it. And if everyone in America understood what it means to be an American, understood the idea of self-government, understood the sanctity of what it is to be free, to govern ourselves,
Starting point is 00:35:09 the moment you get a whiff of this stuff, this globalist stuff, You know it's satanic. It is evil. It is at war with freedom. It's war with at war with liberty. But we have in our lifetimes been drifting away so that your average American doesn't know what Americans would have known in the 30s and the 40s and the 50s, would have gotten in school, would have said our heroes are George Washington and Patrick Henry and on and on. That's that we have really just drifted away from that knowledge. And now, if we are to win in this war, we have to go back to that. We have to go back to understand what, because it's one thing to say all this stuff is bad. Well, then what's right? Well, America on the founder's model, I would say that's where we start.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, and also, if you just go to George Washington's farewell address and you read it, all the information that we need was in that, which is, you know, the two parties could turn into two monoliths that are fighting each other. and when one wins the other is fighting the other one, and the people get completely left out. Don't get involved in foreign affairs of foreign nations, and let no foreign nations get involved in our affairs. I mean, very obvious things, but this was really manipulated, and like I said,
Starting point is 00:36:24 George H.W. Bush set it in motion for where we are now, and it's sad because I felt the same way, but I frankly believe at this point both Bush's, Clinton, Obama, and Biden, are all aware of the long-term goal of ending, national sovereignty for all nations and to have this kind of pan am out of hunger games overlords with a technocratic, totalitarian surveillance track and trace system that is already in place.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Especially what we've had a lot of trauma events in America that were used by these people to manipulate us into acquiescing to things that slowly but surely chipped away at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the name of protecting us. You know, especially what I call the unconscionally. constitutional Patriot Act was used and turned around and weaponized on us. There is no American right now in this country that cannot have a file opened on them by the powers that be at an uncontrolled with no oversight branch of government, I call the fourth branch, the intelligence blob that came out of the Patriot Act, the DHS, all these people, they have no control over them. They
Starting point is 00:37:34 kind of can roam freely. You're a threat to America. Well, guess what? The war, terror was turned inside. And then Obama and Holder put in the National Security Division, which is basically the partner of the NHS and NSA, to go after American citizens that question the narrative. And we have to watch really carefully how this happened. And I go into that in the book. We are addicted to conflict and chaos by design. This is not new. Psychological operations come out of Nazi Germany, and then they were perfected. M.K. Ultran's monarch control and all of this stuff is very real. There's a document by Colonel Aquino from 1965, I believe, called Mind Wars. And if people go read Mind Wars, this is the head of the Psychological Operations Division of the Army.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Colonel Aquino, he was also the head of a satanic temple, the Temple of Set, while writing Mind Wars. And if it is on my website on the resource page, you can read it. And it's all about turning the American mind into a weapon. not just against, you know, big uprisings, but against each other. And Colonel Aquino said by 2020, they wouldn't need weapons of war because people would be used as weapons against each other. And that is where we are. And it has been a long process from our school system to drugging children at young ages to fluoride even. There's many, many different ways. Well, again, I want to say, I know this is a lot for people to take in, but folks, trust me,
Starting point is 00:39:08 this is real. It's hard to wake up to. It's hard to understand that how could we have been asleep at the wheel. You have to believe, Mel, that Donald Trump is aware of this, that he is the ultimate threat to the deep state, to the intelligence agencies, that they're aware of him and that they're, I don't believe they're just going to let him get reelected. No, it's everything. Don't forget. And people do forget this. Not only is he aware of. and did he make two speeches to the world at the UN and at Davos about we are a sovereign nation and will never be globalists, but people also forget that Trump came in and pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords, pulled us out of UNESCO, the worst of the worst. That's where the education harm is coming from. Pulled us out of the World Health Organization, pulled us out of the Immigration Pack, pulled us out of NAFTA. Those are the parts over the last 50 years
Starting point is 00:40:03 they've put in place for global governance. He is fully aware of this. He doesn't just want to make our country great again, he wants all sovereign nations to take back their power and lead by example. Maga was his economic model. It had nothing to do with racism or whatever they say. That was about fortifying and rebuilding America from inside out to them be a better partner in the world and to redevelop a better way forward than all that has failed up to now. Ending wars would require us reallocating money to helping nations grow and be self-sufficient and sovereign to work together worldwide. That's why they do not want Trump in.
Starting point is 00:40:41 George Soros went to Davos right after he won and said, we are going to take him out. He is not getting in the way. And don't forget, six months before COVID, Larry Fink had all the bankers and billionaires and the multinational stakeholders to Jackson Hole complained that we were losing track on the 17 goals and Agenda 2030
Starting point is 00:41:00 and that we would have to go direct. This is the going direct speech by Larry Fing. think. Six months later, we were hit with COVID. What does going direct mean? Going direct goes back to Kissinger's controlling by regions. Going direct means the corporations and the banks will have to force behavior of the American citizens to comply to get them on board because Kamala Harris and Joe Biden in September of 2023 announced at the United Nations that not only would they lead us into agenda 2030, but that they would lead the world by 2030 into this agenda. It is right on the White House website on September of 2023, Global Goals.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You can read it for yourself, and it's very clear. I got to be honest. I hate it when I have a guest that just has nothing to say. It's frustrating for me as a host and as an interviewer, and it will never happen again on this program, starting with 30 minutes ago. We'll be right back. More with Mel Kay. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:42:30 My guest is Mel K. The book is Americans Anonymous. So we're talking about a lot of tough stuff. People are waking up. And what you just said, I mean, Larry Fink and others, these devils, they basically, this is the beauty of it, is that Trump's election in 2016 made them come out of the bushes into the open. So they were forced to really be explicit. They had no choice because of the advent of Trump. And this wasn't Trump's design.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's just that his election made this possible, or sorry, made it vital for them to start like, uh-oh, we're in trouble. We better, you know. And so now more and more we've been able to see them. They've been in the shadows for all these decades. But now we see it. People are waking up. I'm cautiously optimistic. Let me ask you just in the final segment of this hour, what do you think these wicked forces will do if and when Trump is elected? In other words, if, you know, we know the first
Starting point is 00:43:39 thing they're going to try to do is to steal the election, and I don't know what they're going to do about that. But what do you suppose they're cooking up? Because they're not about to sit back and let Americans retake America. Well, unfortunately, they've been working for a long time. There's a group of people. They were involved before the 2020 election a year before called the Transition Integrity Project. That would be Norm Eisen, Weissman, Podesta, all the usual suspects. They've been planning for about a year that if Trump wins, they're going to start lawfare on day one. First, with Jamie Raskin and others objecting to him being certified.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And then from that path, they have a whole lawfare again. It's the same bottle, the same playbook, the same. people who should have been held accountable for 2016 to 2020, in my opinion, of sedition and treason, were put back in power. They are behind all the lawfare, everything we've seen. They've been planning. Mary McCord said it on MSNBC. They've been having meetings every week to plan for everything Trump might do and to have lawfare to challenge it. Now they're talking about Bob Woodward had a book come out. They're saying that Trump's talked to Putin since he's been out of office. Susan Rice is out there. One of the big, big problems we have in our country is
Starting point is 00:44:58 Susan Rice and Samantha Power. They're saying that it's illegal that Trump even spoke to Putin since he left office and they're going to go after that as well. So they are going, if we do not hold them accountable, which they are guilty of many crimes, they are going to go on steroids and do the exact same model they did in 2016. That is why we need to be fully aware of what happened in 2016, how it happened, who was involved, and keep our eyes on them now? And it seems to me that Trump is aware. He wasn't, he didn't see it coming, but it hit him, it crippled him in the course, obviously, of his term. And then we've seen what happened in the last four years. So I have to believe that Trump has surrounded himself with people I'd
Starting point is 00:45:44 hope to think who are aware of this and who are kind of, you know, wargaming it. He is. They, Cash Patel and Devin New as in a lot of other people, not only that, but Trump has an entire lawsuit that lays out exactly the crimes of sedition and treason that happened in 2016 forward. A big problem that we're dealing with now is that these people that were involved that actually work for what I believe, what I call the parent company, they are very scared for themselves. Right. So just like Larry thinks saying, we've got to go direct or we're not going to meet the goals of 2030, because they have plans after that, are people that are behind there in the Obama and the Clinton, basically,
Starting point is 00:46:23 DOJ that are now at NGOs and Brookings and other places, they do not want to be held accountable by any means necessary, including burning down this country. So that's why I'm really pushing lately. Who were the culprits that were involved in 2016 to 2020? Where are they now? That's what we the people should be looking at, right at them. We're going to, uh, I hope we have another segment with you at the beginning of the next hour. So stay tuned, folks. And let me just say all those people, they shouldn't be afraid of going to jail. They should be afraid of going to hell for eternity.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And they can do something about that. That's on them.

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