The Eric Metaxas Show - Michael Myers

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

Tyson Langhofer of Alliance Defending Freedom has an update on recent Supreme Court cases; then, Michael Myer of Dayspring Academy will be hosting a powerful event featuring Jonathan Cahn and Eric himself.

to the Eric Mattaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. As you know, I'm a fan of religious liberty. Yeah, that's right. I said it. And, you know, I'm a fan of those people who get behind religious liberty. For example, the Alliance defending freedom. Oh, yes, you've heard about them.

I wanted to talk to Tyson Langhofer. He's a senior counsel with ADF to kind of get an update. on what's cooking. Tyson, welcome back. Thanks for having me here. Well, I am a big fan of ADF, and I guess I wanted to talk to you about the Meriwether case, Dr. Nicholas Meriwether. Tell my audience, who is that and what is this case that ADF is involved with right now. Well, Dr. Meriwether is a professor of philosophy and religion at Shawnee State University. Been there for over 20 years and has a spotless record up until a couple years ago when he had a male student in his class who demanded to be referred to as a female.

Dr. Meriwether indicated that, well, I can't do that, but I will refer to you by whatever name you choose, and I'll just avoid the use of pronouns. The student complained to the university, the university investigated and found that Dr. Meriwether had created a hostile environment, and they put a letter in his file saying that he had violated their non-discrimination policy and that if he did this in the future, that he would be further punished. So we filed a lawsuit and just recently had some great news from the Sixth Circuit. You had good news from the, now ADF, you guys are pretty good. So I'm never surprised to hear good news, but I'm always pleased. So tell us what happened. Yeah, well,

the court held that titles and pronouns, they express a message. And they're part of an important ongoing debate. And the court held that government can't compel ideological purity. And they said basically the court of this great opinion. It said if it had that power, then a university could require a professor to, a pacifist professor to argue that war is just or a civil rights icon to criticize the freedom writers or an atheist to be compelled to affirm that God exists. And they said that no one should be forced to express a message that violates their convictions. And so they upheld Dr. Marywether's rights. What had happened was the district court had dismissed the case and held that he didn't state any claims. So the Sixth Circuits reversed that opinion and said that he had, in fact,

stated First Amendment claims, and that if he proves what he alleged that he should win, because the government can't force Fesslers to speak messages they disagree with. This is a very big deal, Tyson, isn't it? I mean, honestly, this is great news. As I'm hearing you explain it, I am surprised, frankly. I'm not surprised to hear that ADF1, but I'm surprised in a case like this because we're living in such politically charged times that a Sixth Circuit Court actually understood that this was compelled speech. Yeah, absolutely. It's very encouraging because what they understood was,

that if a university could punish Dr. Meriwether for declining to use a pronoun, for declining to express a message that he agreed with, it also could allow a public university who said, we believe in the biological reality, and we're not going to allow any professors to use preferred pronouns or to use gender identity pronouns. It also has that right. So this protects all professors, not just Dr. Meriwether,

but all professors. And it protects academic freedom and the ability to discuss important ideas. They recognize that gender identity is an important debate that's going on right now. And that if it suppresses Dr. Meriwether's beliefs here, it's going to suppress an important debate on an important topic. I really, I'm amazed that we had a good decision on something like this. Now, I don't know much about how the law works. What kind of a precedent does this set? Have we had cases like this that have gone in the other direction?

How far does the jurisdiction of this court go? So this is a really important case. This is the first case at the circuit level to address the issue of a professor being forced to use a preferred pronoun or being forced to speak messages they disagrees with on the gender identity topic. So it's really big. It does only apply in the Sixth Circuit. However, this, you know, the circuits, they know what other circuits are doing, and it will send a big message out there.

And so it applies only to the states in the Sixth Circuit. But it is the Fourth Circuit to uphold the rights of professors, to say that the professors have free speech rights when they're in their classroom on issues of teaching and scholarship, because that is a topic that's still out. there. And this is a fourth one. And it's the second case that ADF has been involved with. We also set the precedent in the Fourth Circuit as well. But, you know, I think one of the bigger topics here, Eric, that's important for people to understand is that Dr. Meriwether is just another example of the

coercive forces trying to compel people to say things they don't believe, including about the nature of what it means to be a man and a woman. And this isn't limited just professors. You know, we see it with female athletes. We see it with women's shelters. And then the Equality Act. which Congress is currently considering. And what I think this tells everybody, all of your listeners, is that when we courageously stand against the intolerant cancel culture, we can win and not just protect our rights, but the rights of all Americans.

This is really big news. We've talked a lot with ADF counsel on this program, but this is the first time that I'm really surprised because we're living in such an ideological time. the idea that a court in 2021 understood the common sense behind this and understood what free speech is and what it is not. It is a big deal. I guess it gives me hope for the culture and it must you as well. It absolutely does.

And what it shows me, Eric, is that when we can't win if we don't stand. But when we stand and when we stand together, we can ensure we're. remain a truly diverse and tolerant nation that rejects cancel culture. But we just need more Dr. Meriwethers. We need more people that are willing to stand up and say, there is an objective truth. And when we live in a culture that rejects truth, people are going to be hurt. And we need to be able to speak the truth so that the society is able to flourish. Well, what's fascinating to me is the arbitrariness of this gender conversation. In other words, is people saying that I, you know, I'm a woman.

I want you to call me by that. How is that somehow an inherent issue? In other words, why couldn't I say, I want everybody to call me, you know, Captain Kirk, Captain Tiberius Kirk from the Starship Enterprise. I demand it. And if you don't do that, I'm offended. We're not there yet. But if you look at it legally, it's the same concept.

It's arbitrary. It's being forced on people like this professor, Meriwether. And you have to have courts kind of come in and say, we cannot force someone to do that just because someone else suggested. But I'm still just impressed that with the transgender lobby and with the ideology that we're getting in the culture along these lines, that this court was able to do that.

Would it have gone another way in another court? I mean, what is your guess? What do you think? Well, I mean, here's, the good news. The good news is this is based on longstanding precedent. The Supreme Court has never allowed the government to compel speech. They've never held in the case that the government can compel speech. And so it's not like they're treading new ground. You're right that on this topic, it is ideologically charged right now, but they have, they based this decision in longstanding

precedent that we have to zealously protect academic freedom and we have to zealously push back on the government officials trying to force people. Because of this, it strikes me that because of the bravery of Dr. Maryweather and because of ADF, people can now live out their faith and say, I'm not going to go along with that. There's a ruling. I don't need to go along with that. If only they'll have the guts to do so. Absolutely.

That's absolutely right. I'm hoping, and what we've seen is that courage begets courage. And when somebody like Dr. Maryweather stands, we've had a lot of people reach out to us. people that are not ideologically aligned with him saying thank you for taking a stand i feel being i feel like i'm being suppressed yeah exactly kison langhofer thank you so much thanks sir hey folks listen every generation faces a unique moment when it's called on to defend the guarantee of liberty and may i say it that this is your moment this is our moment today we can stand for freedom you can stand for freedom with alliance defending freedom, please go to ADFlegal.org. That's ADFlegal.org

slash Eric. ADFlegal.org slash Eric, or for more information call 855-547-53. Welcome back to your per taxes show. Every now and again, I get to do something really fun, like interview someone on a stage and people watch it. And then I always think if it's so much fun, Why aren't we televising this or why aren't we broadcasting this somehow? And guess what? That's what I'm here to talk to you about. I have as my guest right now, Dr. Mike Myers of Day Spring Academy. Dr. Myers, welcome.

Where's Day Spring Academy? We are in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, a little town called Mountville. You have invited me to interview Rabbi Jonathan Kahn. who wrote The Harbinger and many other fascinating books. His ideas are just very, very fascinating. A lot of people know him. But tell my audience this idea that you had, this Remember America speaker series and so and so forth,

because I'm privileged I get to be a part of it and I'm thrilled to tell my audience that they get to watch it if they want. But I think anything with Dr. Khan in this kind of a venue is going to be great. So I'm looking forward to it. And it's May 1st, right? I think we're doing it.

Yes, May 1st. Well, so tell my audience about this whole idea. First of all, let me even ask you before that. Tell us a little bit about Day Spring Academy in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Okay, Day Spring is what we call a principal approach school. It has a very specific mission that begins with partnering with parents and churches to equip our students to, first of all, acknowledge the Lordship of Jesus Christ in every area of life. That is the foundation. That's the doorwork.

way that opens everything else up. But then we really begin to develop a biblical worldview in our students and teach them about excellence and Christian character and scholarship. And then the real kicker in it, and this is where it's, I think, a dividing line where we're very focused with something that God has called the school to do, that is to help restore America to its biblical foundations. And so we pay a lot of attention to that. not because we just make everything about America, but we believe that to fulfill the Great Commission, we have to make sure the home fires are burning,

or it hinders, it diminishes our influence in the world, and we believe America was given a gospel purpose from the beginning. We see that thread running through history, which I'm happy to go into some of that if you would like. Well, I have to tell you, first of all, it's a, a joy. Am I getting some feedback? Is everything, is the audio okay, Albin? That's better. I was just going to say, it's such a joy to hear somebody say what you've just said. It's so important, and there's so many people who really don't understand this. This is really basic. This is like

basic math, but a lot of people, they don't do math. They don't get into it. You're talking about basic truth, the idea that this country was founded on biblical principles. It was not founded as a theocracy. It was not founded, you know, where everybody has to go to church. We have freedom of religion. But these principles are so fundamental to freedom. And as you know, it's become part of my life to talk about this. But when I find a school like Day Spring Academy in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where you all get this, it just thrills me because the whole country needs to get this. And I'm more thrilled even because you're choosing to do this in a public venue so that anyone can watch it. Now, to be clear, I often forget to introduce my guests

even slightly properly. You're the founder and the headmaster of Day Spring Christian Academy. When was it founded? 1987, we opened our doors with 10 kindergarten students and then just grew from there. And nine of them are sitting on the Supreme Court this day. Yeah, so that's actually that's really impressive. My goodness, that we're talking 34 years now. That's just tremendous. Have you been the headmaster all this time?

Yes, I have. It's interesting, isn't it? Because I've seen schools where it is someone's life work. And it's just such a beautiful thing to see because the effect you can have, the legacy. Let's talk a little bit about the Remember America Speakers series. Now, by the way, how do people, if people want to see it, how can they? see it. Well, we have a virtual link that they can access by going to our website, dayspringchristian.com, and that really opens the whole event to the world because of the

internet. And the unique thing about this time, we're offering that is just pay what you can. So there's no set price that you have to pay to be able to sit back in your home, if that's what you choose to see the event. And I just go to dayspringchristian.com and you will find the links there. Dayspringchristian.com. Okay, and this is May 1st. Now, I better get the day right because I'm supposed to be there. So I'm going to be interviewing Dr. Jonathan Khan on, how does he put it?

The seeds. I can't remember the title, his title or your title. The title of the event is Return to the Foundation, Reviving the Seed of Our Nation. reviving the seed of our nation. So Jonathan Kahn has written a lot about this kind of thing. And it's really, it's fascinating to me because it operates on at least two levels. On the one hand, all of the founders understood these basics. And I write about it in my book, if you can keep it, the golden triangle of freedom, the vitality that you get when you combine religious liberty and virtue and, well, liberty and virtue and freedom and how these

things work together. And a lot of people don't get that. But what Dr. Khan says, he actually puts a kind of a mystical overlay on it in a way, which you don't really need to buy the basic ideas behind it. But I just find, I find that fascinating, that he really does make the case that God's hand is uniquely on this nation for God's purposes. Right. That's so true. And I think Jeremiah chapter 18 is very clear that while that initial prophecy was given to Israel, God goes on to say, any nation, I may choose to raise a nation up.

If that nation follows me, then I will bless it. If that nation chooses to reject my principles and my principles. and my precepts, then I will bring that nation down. That's a real wake-up call for us as America, because we believe that it is God who raises nations up and even sets their boundaries as Paul teaches in Acts. And so remember America, and really our whole school is a call to Americans

to remember our heritage and our, that our liberty that we enjoy, better than any nation on earth still, directly tied to our Christian principles. If we abandon them, if we take those pillars, as George Washington said, of religion and morality out from the foundation, then our nation cannot stand. It's interesting. We don't really live at a time when what we call the cultural elites celebrate America.

They're troubled by patriotism. In other words, rather than understand. that there is a measured, appropriate kind of patriotism. They think all patriotism is somehow jingoistic. It's putting down other people. It's kind of like people who, they have a same view of the Christian fate. They think, well, if I'm proselytizing, if I'm telling people about Jesus, that's kind of offensive.

I need to just sort of be slightly ashamed of holding these views while I hold them. Rather than saying, these views are not my own. These are a beautiful gift to me that I get to share. and if I don't share it, why wouldn't I share it? This is just a glorious, it's a glorious thing. So it just makes me happy that you are, you're teaching that at DaySpring. How do you do this at DaySpring Christian Academy? Because, you know, it's something I'd like to see happening in schools all around the country. Tell us a little bit about what you teach or what classes, what grades, you teach what. Okay. Well, I would say that the backbone of,

Principal Approach education curriculum-wise is our history curriculum. And we look at America's Christian History timeline. We do that because we're Americans. We're living in America. I've spoken at a Principal Approach conference in Brazil a few years ago, and they're looking at Brazil's Christian history timeline. So it's not just about America, but we believe that as Americans, we need to understand God's hand in our history,

because you can see a crim what we say is a crimson thread that runs through our history, and that crimson thread is Christ, the liberty that he bought for us on the cross. But it's God's story. We say it's Christ his story. And so we start teaching that to little children. They come to understand that God uses individuals. And we highlight key individuals. We look at their character.

We look at how God used them, and then we say, God can use you, too, in your time. And that's actually the last link of our history program is what we call the restoration link, where we live right now is trying to restore our nation back to that foundation so we can fulfill God's purposes for our nation, but also for our individual lives. Well, this is so delightful to hear. I just want to thank you for people who, can't, who have to tune out or do whatever they have to do right now, just want to remind them, they can go to daystreamchristian.com,

daystreamchristian. I'm sorry, dayspring, Christian, sorry, dayspringchristian.com, dayspringchristian.com, dayspringchristian.com. Check it out May 1st. I'm interviewing Jonathan Conn. Come on get happy. Hey, the folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Dr. Mike Myers.

He is the founder. And Headspring, head spring, see what I did? Headmaster of Day Spring Christian Academy in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. I have to say, Dr. Myers, it's a joy to talk to you and a joy to know what you're doing at Day Spring Christian Academy. You said since 1987. Yes. The reason you're talking to me right now specifically is because on May 1st, I will be interviewing Dr. Jonathan Kahn. by Jonathan Kahn at an event that you all are hosting in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Tell my audience

a little bit about this event on May 1st. Well, we believe this is a very special event that God has planned for us. Our team has been praying about this event for over a year, and we do that every year and ask God to lead us to the speakers that he would have, to the theme for the night and so forth. And it was amazing how we really believe that God spoke to us and confirmed it's about 15 people on this committee. And for everybody to be in total agreement very quickly, we knew that, yes, this is what God is speaking. And the theme really has to do with revival. We believe that after everything that we've been through this year with the pandemic, but also with the election and just the turmoil in our nation that we've witnessed,

I believe that the Lord is saying, you need to seek my face, humble yourself before me, repent of your sin, and turn to me, and I will heal your land. I will bring revival. I will bring new life and breathe it in to the calling that I have for your nation. So that's really the focus of this. I was at the event in September down in Washington, D.C., the return, and it just confirmed so much to me. that yes, we must come to the Lord and pray for a great awakening. That's what's going to turn things around in our nation.

And we believe that it's coming. And we believe that God still has great purposes for America as he does other nations. But we don't want to wait. We want to press in now. I love the idea that you, as the headmaster of, of Day Spring Christian Academy that you understand this and that you're passing this on to a number of generations. This is so vital, as you know, it's become a big cause for me that when I wrote my book, if you can keep it, I was just astounded that I didn't understand this stuff.

And you, you know, I discover these things and then I become, you know, with the zeal of the converted, I want to tell everyone, my goodness, this is really basic about who we are as a people, in America and that we're given this gift to share with the world. I mean, really, it's a biblical principle. Any gift you're given is meant not just for you, but for others. So as a Christian, I have this faith. It's a sin for me to hide it. It's meant, I'm meant to give it away if it's any kind of a gift.

If I appreciate the gift, similarly with the freedoms that we have, we're supposed to tell our kids, tell the world, this is a beautiful thing. You don't deserve it. You've been given it as a gift. And you have an obligation to share this. it's God's purpose for you to share this kind of a thing. And it really means that we shouldn't be ashamed of loving America because we're not loving America with all its warts. We're basically saying we're loving God's idea of America and we want to make sure that we go back if we've missed

anything, which of course we have to go back and say, what is God's idea of America? Or if we're missing anything going forward to say, what do we need to do to be more in line with God's purposes for America. And it's not about becoming a theoxy. I think this is what a lot of people misunderstand that when we say this is a Christian nation, we don't mean it's an officially Christian nation. We actually say that it's far more than an officially Christian nation. It's an actually foundationally Christian nation, which means we cannot force Christianity on people. And it's a little bit of a conundrum to understand. I want to give out the website. If people want to participate and watch my conversation with Rabbi Jonathan Kahn on May 1st, they can go to

Dayspringchristian.com. That's dayspringchristian.com. And I've got a phone number in case anybody feels like calling it. 717-285-200. 7-185-200. 7-185-200. 7-185-2,000. Dayspring Christian.com. So what was? Was it that made you settle on Rabbi Jonathan Kahn for this? Was it what he said at the return back in September? That was just confirmation to me because I had already read the Harbinger and actually went to New York City to identify the different Harvangers because I just thought, wow, this sounds really kind of fantastic here.

And so my wife and I went up there and did exactly that. which it's just an amazing thing. And you can say, oh, well, it must just be coincidence. Well, if you can live at that level, okay. But to me, it was like, wow, what a God we serve, that he can be speaking very directly to Israel. But in his mind, he has many things going on. And it can be real for us today.

We're not replacing Israel for heaven's sake, but we can certainly learn from Israel, And Paul said that's what these scriptures are for to teach us so that we know how to live our lives and our generation. I've realized that nobody that I can think of ever that was in the White House more than Abraham Lincoln understood the things that we're talking about. And people who say, oh, Lincoln's great, often fail to know what a profound respect he had for the founders and their vision. obviously I write about it in my book if you can keep it, but it was really in writing that book that I discovered how deeply he understood these things.

These are important things. We're out of time. Folks, go to dayspringchristian.com May 1st. I'm interviewing Rabbi Jonathan Kahn. Check it out. Dr. Myers, thank you so much. Thank you, Eric. God bless you and your work.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, Ask Mataxis. Another episode. Go. We've got questions for a hair. And you forgot to say special California edition. Oh, okay. This is really getting screwed up.

Yes, I'm in California. So Ask Mataxis or Axe Mataxis, depending on how you pronounce it. Either way. Okay. Yeah, I hate being axed though because it's usually not a good way to end one's life. But let me just say this. People write in, we get bags and bags of mail like sanity. clause up at the North Pole. And we pick out different questions that people ask, and I try to

answer them. Albin, I believe you have a question from somebody writes in, so you're going to read that to me. Yep, yep. Here's a woman that actually writes something in Greek at the very end, but I'm going to start with the English part of it. Eric, can you please cover the topic of universities and other organizations mandating the use of the vaccine? How can people band together to stop this craziness. My daughter will be forced to take the vaccine by August, and I'm desperate to find a way out of it without making her leave the University of Wisconsin, where she is now a junior. What do you say? Well, and she ends her note with, please help. Otheos na evloji, vespina. This is somebody who is Greek, and I'm really excited about this.

or theos naevloyi means theos is God naevlogy eulogize EU is good and logos well anyway means God bless you so the question is about you see here's the thing and I've said this many times it's like I'm not necessarily so against the vaccine I mean I'm not going to get it

and I would tell people probably don't get it like I don't see any particular reason for healthy people to take the vaccine and this kind of lemming like, you know, everybody's got to get the vaccine, I don't, I just don't get that. That's baloney. And the reason I say that is because we really don't know what's in it. People say it's safe, it's safe. Well, it may be safe, but it has not been officially approved by the FDA. They've approved it as an experimental treatment. So my instinct would be to say, don't get it unless you feel a particular need to get it, because we've had experiences. in the past where, you know, scientists and doctors say, this is fine, this is fine, and then we find out it's not fine. So an experimental thing, unless you have a really good reason to take it, right? People remember in the early 60s, thalidomide was prescribed to women who had morning sickness. And so all these women took thalidomide. And it severely deformed

their kids. And they're people today with no arms or legs. I mean, it's a horrifying thing. It is possible, folks, for science and medicine to get something wrong. And I think we have to do our own job. And we have to say, I know people who got it. It's fine. Maybe I'll get it.

But do I need to get it? And I would say, especially if you're a young, healthy person, I would not get it. I simply flat out would not get it. So to have people telling me they must get it, I don't like that in America when people say, you've got to get it. No, I don't. This is America. We're free.

We don't got to get it. But worse than that is now, this is where the back end comes in. You have places like university saying, like, well, if you want to come to college here, you've got to get the vaccine. That is outrageous. And Vespina, yes, us, dikanatea, is asking, what do I do about this? I would say, first of all, I would write a strong letter. I would maybe even talk to a lawyer, find a family friend who's a lawyer, write a letter

and saying, I don't want my daughter to get this for various reasons. I wanted to continue at the university, but this is not right. And that was, I would write a really strong letter now in April and say that I need a response soon because this is not acceptable. Now, if you don't write the letter, you're part of the problem because there are plenty other parents out there. This is the University of Wisconsin, I think, who are thinking the same thing, but they don't listen to the show and they're thinking, what do I do? I would say, write a letter. And if you have the instinct, make a big stink over it. Make a big stink. Talk to the newspaper. This is not okay. But at least write a letter.

if you can, I would say, get a lawyer. But this is unacceptable. There are people all over the country facing the same thing. And I think you should be banding together with other people who have kids at the University of Wisconsin saying, like, this is none of your business, what vaccines I take. This is not that kind of a vaccine yet. It hasn't been approved by the FDA. And there's no reason for me to force my daughter, who's young and healthy, to take this vaccine.

We don't know what the effects are down the line. And even if there's like a 1,000th chance that it could be, you know, bad, thousands and thousands and thousands of people are getting this. So there's really no need for everybody to get this if there's even a question. So I would be really strong about that. Okay. There's another question. Yeah, yeah. There's another question.

Actually, I'm time for a very short one. It's kind of a fun one. Gary says he's just finishing up your book on Bonhofer. And of course, Bonhofer visited New York City. He went to museums, concerts, movies, newsreels, any chance that Bonhoeffer went to a baseball game. And did he go with you? Can I tell you something? Yes.

I don't know. I suspect he would have written about it in the correspondence that I read. It's possible because when he was in Barcelona a number of years earlier, he went to a couple of bulls. fights. He was really like a, you know, a culturally curious person. So I would think that he would want it to go to ballgame, but there's no record of it. So that's something that I can't answer. I think probably not from what I know. But we know that he went to the 1939 World's Fair. And I think he went by himself just to see it. It's amazing to think of him there walking around. He went to Times Square. He went to Radio City Music.

He went to the Empire State Building where Albert and I, we've done some of our best work there, haven't we? Yeah. Well, you and Chris. I joined you. Oh, that's right. That was before your time. Before my time. Yeah.

That was big way. Yeah. So I don't think he did go to a ballgame. Okay. Hey, by the way, folks, just so you know, tomorrow we've got John Smirak coming up too as well. So it's another big week here. Little Johnny's Mirak. He might be in his mid-50s.

but he's still a boy genius. Remember, John Smirak, boy genius, will be on the program tomorrow. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to go to Eric Mataxis.com, sign up for the newsletter. Darn you, come on, sign up. Calvin, I'm still in California. You are. I don't know what happened.

I'm still here. I got to tell you, seriously, a few things going on. I don't want people. I keep getting emails from people asking me questions because they listen to the show. They hear something. And then they say, what was that? What was that? and they can't rewind because they're, you know, listening to the radio or whatever it is.

So yesterday I got a question, what's that, what's that supplement thing that, that, you know, whatever, that you mentioned on your program? And so rather than email everyone, I thought maybe I'll just say it on the program. Would that be okay? Yeah, yeah, I try that. Try that. Our new sponsor is NutraMedics. It's N-U-T-R-A, Neutra-M-E-D-I-X. Nutramedics.com.

Nutrametics.com is our new sponsor, and we have the same code, Eric. So if you go to Nutrametics.com, whatever you order there, use the code Eric, and you'll get, I believe it's a 10% discount. But I want to say this. The reason I'm so excited about Nutrametics is because, now think of this, right, I'm already getting vitamin D and zinc and magnesium or whatever does you take, melatonin, whatever, all that stuff, I'm already buying it from someplace. Where am I getting it from?

What are the values of those companies? I have no idea. Nutrametics.com use the code Eric. They give 50% of all their profits. Think of that. To missions and to charities that most of us would be thrilled to know that they're giving 50% of their profits. They have a goal by the end of this century to put three men on the moon. No, sorry, that's wrong.

By the end of this century, 2030, they have a goal to give away $100 million. These people are serious about giving away money to God's purposes. So nutrometics.com use the code Eric. And I'm sure whatever it is that you take, they probably have it there. Also should mention mypillow.com and my store.com. There's going to be more and more available at my store.com. Most of my books are available at my store.com. and I just say to people, if you use the code Eric, some of the prices are really insane.

My Miracles book, Hardcover, it's like $10 or something, which it should be like 27. The seven more seven women book is really cheap. I don't know what that, but I'm just saying like, if possible, I want to pass on the savings to you and, you know, that way you don't have to buy from Amazon or whatever it is. So I do want to mention my pillow.com and my. store.com, use the code, Eric. And also to support Mike Lindell. The dude is, he just takes a beating.

People come after him. People are nasty to him. Jimmy Kimmel was nasty. But guess what? Jimmy Kimmel is going to have him on the show. Yeah, that's great. That is terrific. What do you think I would need to do to get Jimmy Kimmel to say, use the code Eric?

Hey, Kimmel. Hey, Kimmel. Hey, yeah, you. Tell your people, your audience. It's a small audience, but I don't care. Use the code Eric. I'm afraid he's going to say use the code Jimmy after. after getting to like Michael in.

But yeah, he's going to, he's going to say, you know what? I kind of like that guy. Yeah, he's very likable. Go to Frankspeech.com, too, folks, and sign up there as well. Oh, please go to frankspeech.com. And before we go, as I mentioned, I'm in California. So I'm speaking at Signal Hill tomorrow. You can find all this on my website,

ericmetaxis.com speaking schedule. And I'm picking up in Thousand Oaks. I think I'm doing an event Friday night with Pastor Rob McCoy, and I'm speaking, I think, three sermons on Sunday. How am I going to get through that? Coffee, coffee, coffee, and more coffee. Okay. And one more things.

Let's go to SalemNow.com as well. There's some great movies there, church people. There's another one. America, America, God shed his grace on the. It's a really good one I've been watching it. It's very good. Homeschoolers have to see this one, too. It's about the-salam.

Now.com. Yeah. I'm trying to help you people, all right? Come on. You got to help us help you. Help yourselves. Thanks for listening.