The Eric Metaxas Show - Michael Pack

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Documentary film maker Michael Pack joins to discuss his new film "Get The Jew"

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The book is Americans Anonymous. So Mel, you were just talking about these folks who are, they're scared to death of what's going to happen. God forbid Trump and we the people get back in power. They're scared. And so they will do anything, including put a bullet in his head or anyone's head. they've done it before. They murdered JFK. Roger Stone has been on this program talking about how, you know, Woodward and Bernstein and all that was to get Nixon.

This was not something that just happened. He's talking about, he's writing a book about how they tried to kill Reagan. I always thought, oh, it was just, you know, John Hinkley or what? No, no, it's good. Now, again, it's stunning to hear this kind of stuff, because I always thought, I bought into the standard narrative on Watergate. I bought into the standard narrative on Reagan. And it is tough to kind of realize, okay, I think I might have gotten that wrong.

There's a bigger picture here. I always worry when people go too far. And it's like they get into, oh, yeah, the earth is flat. We never went to the moon. And, oh, and by the way, like, these are actually lizard people. You know, that's part of the problem is that there's some people, they're only too happy to believe all this stuff. and then add insanity to that. So shame on them and they need to cut it out because we have real problems here.

And that's what we're talking about. So what do you think you were talking about law fair? But it just seems to me that, you know, if they were willing to release the COVID virus, if they were willing to, if you read Naomi Wolf's book, you know, the Pfizer papers, I mean, this is deeply, deeply wicked stuff. This is like Hitler level. murder of million stuff. And I don't know why we think that, well, Hitler, they would do that, but no one else would

ever do that. Of course, they would do that if they could do it and they could do it. So they would do anything. We know that they would do absolutely anything between now and the election, after the election. So what else do you think? Is it just law fair, you think? Or do you think that they have other things?

Because I don't put it past them to, you know, invite World War III so that we have a reason, you know, not to vote or not to ensure. install our elected president in January? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they are running towards World War III. The good news is that nobody has taken Anthony Blinken, Sullivan, Victoria Newland, Rice, power, all these people that are, you know, on the forefront of trying to destroy everything that we have, that we value on planet Earth, are being

outed. The rest of the world sees them. They've established the BRICS nations. The only person right now. And honestly, like I said, if Trump wins, I believe he will win, it's not about Trump winning. It is about we, the people winning. When people ask you who you're voting for right now, it could not be more stark, the directions, a global totalitarian takeover or restoring America.

If you're with the restoring America, Trump winning has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with you. When people ask you who you're voting for it, you should be saying, I'm voting for myself, my family, my future, and my country. not for a man, but for me. Because all of this infestation has been going on for decades, it's infestated every single community, every county, every state. We cannot do as much about D.C., and I believe that there is a big team to counter their lawfare crew.

But we can and must be the people to drain the swamp in our local communities, in our states, talking about balancing the budgets in our states. If every state balanced their budget, they wouldn't be taking money and being slaves to this corrupt vassal state in Washington, D.C.C.C. There's a lot that we can demand, including making lobbying illegal. NGOs no longer get 501C3, 501C4 status because they have abused that power by having foundations. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all the UN, open society, none of them pay taxes. If you look at all the NGOs and globalists, that's about $13 trillion in taxes. not being paid to the United States under this 501C3, 501C4 nonsense.

It's also infected, I believe, by design, churches and synagogues. So that's a whole issue. We have to go into think tanks. Who's funding them, especially Brookings and Atlanta Council, but a lot of think tanks are funded by foreign adversaries. And then you look at the next level. When I talk about, and this should be empowering to the American citizens, we are captured by a global public-private partnership that treats America

like it's a parent company and that we're just lucky to live here. Well, that is not how it is and it's up to us to turn it upside down and demand to know why BlackRock and Vanguard own the biggest shares and voting rights on every media, every corporation basically, all of the banks, there is something terribly wrong

and then when you connect BlackRock and Vanguard to the global billionaire oligarchy and follow the money, it all becomes very clear. And I understand them not wanting to lose power, But we, the people of the United States, did not sign on to have an oligarchy running this country. We signed on for the people, by the people, and have to start acknowledging that we had this happen. And again, the book is called Americans Anonymous because we need a recovery program, very similar. We need an intervention.

And American people have to take back their individual liberty, their righteous indignation that this is our country. Take back the pride. This has been chipped away at, I'm sure you know about Besmanoff's interview. 80s, the defector from Russia, that laid out exactly how they were going to the communists infiltrate and take over America. Well, he was absolutely right. And this is about demoralization, dehumanization, normalization. We are at the precipice. I do believe that they've never been so close to their one-world top-down government, and yet they've never been so far. And that is because people like you and me and other people have had it. There's no such thing as disinformation or

misinformation. There's only information. And we, God gave us the best computer in our brain. It is not up to the government or the oligarchs running the government to tell us what is true, what is the right information. And first and foremost, we have to ourselves demand that ourselves, we figure out the right information and work from there and stop being manipulated. Next time you come on this program, if you don't mind, have a cup of coffee because I'm getting a lot of low energy Jeb here, and it's just not good for the program. I'm just saying that as a friend. Listen, when you mentioned, we're talking about such serious stuff, I have to joke. I write about this to some extent in my new book, Religinalist Christianity, that this is satanic.

This is one-world government. Some people are aware of that, and some people aren't. Some people are openly worshipping the devil or quietly worshipping the devil, and other people are useful idiots. I'm not going to mention George W. Bush by name, but you can just imagine that there's some people, they're not all in on this. But it's so interesting to me because we know that we won't get to do all this if Trump is not elected. And there are churches all over America. People listening to this program go to churches where the pastor will not say one word about this. And folks, shame on you for supporting a false shepherd who keeps his mouth shut when this is where. we are. I beg of you to take this seriously. We are not exaggerating in this conversation.

This is the horrible reality, and there's no way to win unless more people get involved, unless we win this election. And, you know, to prove, we've just got a minute left, but, you know, Mel, if you ever needed proof that there is a deep state, that there is a uniparty, the idea that Dick Cheney, that warmongering bum would end up. Congress. It's disgusting that George W. Bush and Mike Pence have not endorsed Trump. But he went to the next level. He endorsed Kamala Harris, the most left-wing Marxist loon we've ever had get anywhere near the presidency. And Dick Cheney endorsed her. We've got 30 seconds. But is that not just the craziest, obvious evidence for what we're talking about here? Because it makes no other sense. Yeah, the most disturbing part about all of this is the truth is being revealed, which is most of the wars that we fought have been for profit for this global public-private partnership, and they still are. If you look at Ukraine now, it's completely taken over by the IMF and the multinational corporations. The entire German Marshall Fund was a fraud to set up the EU.

I mean, war for profit is war for profit. Look at the people backing her, not to mention her huge backing from Hollywood. What is that about? There's a lot to lose on their side, but their end goal, and I ask people, please go on the White House website, look at September 2023, Harris Biden commitment to global goals, and you will see $3 trillion that's going away from us to globalism. We're out of time. We love you. We'll have you back soon. Thank you.

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In a couple of minutes, I'm talking to Michael Pack. Chris, you and I have known Michael Pack for years. He's making these incredible documentary films. We've got a couple seconds with segments with him coming up. Yeah, he's one of these friends of the show that is always doing really interesting media work. And obviously we'd love to get the word out when we can because these are edifying, really well-done projects. Yeah.

And this one is free, 100% free. You can watch it today. I want to talk about the Socrates in the city book. I think I mentioned it yesterday. I hope I did. We've never done a Socrates in the city book before. This is published by Socrates in the city books. So we've started an imprint called, it's actually, no, it's a publishing arm.

It's not an imprint. It's a bona fide public. We are the publishers. And it's Socrates and the city books. And the first book is called Socrates and City Conversations on the Examined Life. In other words, it is transcripts that I've edited of the best of the best of the conversations that I've had doing Socrates and the city events over 25 years. and I think I said it, but some of them are so sparkling.

The one with Dick Cavett is unbelievable. I just emailed him this morning. We're sending him a copy of the book, but this was a conversation I had with him in 2011. And it is truly an amazing conversation about fame and celebrity and, oh my gosh. I mean, I'll never forget it. He recites from memory a whole Robert Frost poem about, fame. It's amazing. The whole thing is a virtuoso performance by Dick Cavett. If you ever wondered how

smart and amazing and talented and entertaining he is. So the transcript of that is one of the transcripts in the book. They're about, I guess, 13 in all. There's eight guests. So I've got three with Walter Hooper, who is C.S. Lewis's secretary at the end of his life, who is a treasure, an absolute treasure. We recorded that in Oxford, England in 2015. I have two conversations with the genius mathematician, apologist, Dr. John Lennox. We have a conversation with Charlie Duke who walked on the moon in 1972. It's just a smorgasbord of amazing, amazing conversations. If you pre-order, you get 20% off. I want to be clear. So you go to Socrates in the city.com. But if you pre-order, you get 20% off.

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I hope to get a lot of the folks that you would know over the years of Socrates and the city, Oz Guinness, many others. So that's at Socratesandascom. We're also doing a November 19th event in Philadelphia. We've never done one in Philadelphia before. So it's exciting. Go to Socrates inCity.com to check that out. And actually, I want to read something from our friends at the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.

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I haven't heard about it. There's a film coming out. There's a film coming out. It's not based on my book. I'm not officially related to the film. But the people who made the film were inspired to make a film about Bonhofer when they read my book back in 2010. And so all these years, they've been working on it. I've seen it a couple of times.

It's spectacular. I'm excited about it. And I want to encourage everybody to go on November 22nd, folks, to go on November 22nd to see it in a theater to make it a blockbuster opening weekend. I mean, it really is a great film. And it's a great way to introduce people to the Bonhofer story. Maybe they'll want to read my book. By the way, the book is now available in hardcover at Ericmetaxis.com for $20. Let me tell you, you cannot do better.

Don't get a paperback and pay almost that. Get a hardcover at Ericmataxis.com. If you want to sign an autographed hardcover, you can also get that at Ericmetaxis.com. It's exciting to me, the renewed interest in Bonoffer. It's also horrifying. think that anti-Semitism is again on the rise. You'll hear that, well, we'll be talking about that in the weeks ahead. And we spoke yesterday to our friend Eric Stacklebeck about it. It's unbelievable that the film is coming out now, that there's renewed interest in Bonhoeffer because suddenly

anti-Semitism has reared its ugly head. It's shocking, actually, is what it is. I also want to mention the crews that we're doing that we're going to, we're going to, so many different places. I can't remember them all. But the ship leaves June 6th and returns to Athens on June 16th. We're going through the Dardanelles to Istanbul. I mean, going there with John Smirak,

this is going to be nuts. And you get to be a part of it, if you want. We're going to stop in Ephesus. We're going to stop in Crete. I'm really crazy about the idea that we're going to be in Crete, because I've never, I've never been to most of these places before ever myself. So it'll be fun from, but Crete, I'll be talking more and more about my interest in the Mycenaean era,

which is, you know, when Homer is writing about the Iliad in the Iliadansi is writing with the Trojan War. This is the Mycenaean era, that civilization. In 1901, Sir Arthur Evans, the head of the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford, we just visited it. He excavated the Minoan palace at Knossos in Crete. We're going to go visit that. It's, I mean, every place we stop is going to be amazing, but I'm already looking forward to that more than any of it. We're also going to go to Santorini to Mikanos.

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Get me warm. Keep me warm. Hey, the folks. Welcome. It's my privilege to have on Michael Pack. He's a documentary filmmaker. He's been on this program many times before. His new film, wow, it's called Get the Jew. Brooklyn, 1991. It revisits the infamous story of the Crown Heights riot in 1991 when Jewish home stores, cars were vandalized, and Jews were violently attacked in the streets. I remember this. And so I'm excited to welcome back, Michael Pack. Michael Pack, welcome and congratulations on this film. Unfortunately, it's an important film for right now. It's very relevant.

I mean, one of the reasons that we did it is because of this new wave of anti-Semitism. This is really the first, Eric, in a series that we're doing with the Wall Street Journal opinion section, where we're going to do short documentaries about stories that have been misreported, ignored or generally sent down the memory hole, but are important and viewers need to understand them. And we intend to tell them,

as you know, is there a normal pattern as stories in a straightforward fact-based manner and let viewers decide. Yeah, you're not editorializing. You're just actually reporting the story. But it's interesting to me because one of the ways that the mainstream media, which leans

dramatically left, one of the ways they editorialize, is simply by ignoring certain stories. That has been happening in my lifetime. I've watched it. And so God bless Paul Jago and the Wall Street Journal for greenlighting this, because it is vital. You cannot have a republic when people are not informed.

And this, what happened in 1991, again, I remember it just because, you know, I was in the New York area at the time. But for my audience, who doesn't know this, who doesn't know this is how Al Sharpton, you know, enter the national vocabulary the national conversation tell us the story of what happened

the film is get the Jew Brooklyn 1991 well it's only a 20 minute film so I really encourage your viewers to watch it it's free on the Wall Street Journal site so but the story basically

is that it was August 1991 a hot day in the Crown Heights neighborhood in Brooklyn which had by that time been a predominantly black neighborhood with a small group of Jews also mixed in that were Habad Lubavich. It had once been a all-Jewish section, but the Jews had fled during this period of white flight. But the

Shabad group decided they would stay. They were led by their rabbi, the grand rabbi, who fled the Holocaust and said, we're going to stay. We can live with these people. We're going to stay here. But tensions rose. You remember this in New York in the 70s and 80s and into the early 90s. And there was a lot of black nationalism in the air. Louis Farrakhan was popular. You had Leonard Jeffries, Hakeem Jeffrey's uncle,

talking about ice people and sun people and Jews responsible for the slave trade. Wait, wait, wait, wait, whoa. Hakeem Jeffrey's uncle was one of these super nuts, super racist nuts. You mentioned, I mean, was this when Jesse Jackson famously called New York Heimytown? It was around that period. Right. A beautiful period in New York history. Jesse Jackson calls New York Heimytown. You have Al Sharpton and others. Lewis Farrakhan is the king of all Jew haters in that world. I remember this again. So this was the situation in Crown Heights in the summer of 91. That's right. So an incident started this riot. The rabbi, who I mentioned earlier, the grand rabbi of Habad. Monacham Schneerson.

Monacham Schneerson, exactly, who, as you know, is a renowned religious leader. So he would go every month to visit the grave of his wife and his predecessor, and he had a police escort because of his stature. And he was coming back to his headquarters at 770. In a three-car motorcade, police up front with sirens running, him in the second car. And the third car had his assistance. And they went through a light, and the first two cars went through. and the third car either ran a yellow or a red and smashed into another car in the intersection,

careened off that car and pinned two young black children who were playing in the street, Angela and Gavin Cato, and tragically, Gavin Cato later died. But this is clearly a traffic accident, but it was portrayed by the people witnessing it, and at the time he did it on purpose, the Jews are getting away with everything, and one guy in particular, Charles Price, whipped up the crowd, And after that, it happened about 8 p.m. They went through the neighborhood burning buildings and terrorizing Jews. And then three hours later, they ran into a Orthodox Jewish graduate student,

Yanko Rosenbaum, on a semi-deserted street and said, there's a Jew. Let's get him. Get the Jew, hence our title. And they beat him up and stabbed him, and he died. And that's only day one of the riot. I got to tell you, you know, I do remember this as soon as you mentioned Yankle Rosenbaum, these names that come up, you know, New York tabloid history. It is chilling because we rightfully revisit, you know, the lynchings that happen in the American South.

We rightfully face that evil. But this, and again, congrats to you, Paul Gagot and the Wall Street Journal for putting this out. because to think that this happened, you know, we were adults. This isn't way back in the past in the 1930s. This just happened in Brooklyn, you know, a couple decades ago. We're going to go to a break here, but I'm going to be talking more with Michael Pack, the documentary filmmaker behind Get the Jew Brooklyn, 1991. You can see it for free at the Wall Street Journal website.

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down to the video. I think you have the exact website you can maybe post. But the point really is the riot went on for three days. As you say, Al Sharpton came. Other people came from outside, continue to whip up the crowd. And the question really is, why did the police and the mayor let it go on for three days? Now, you have to remind me, was the mayor David Dinkins? Absolutely. Oh, what a big surprise, David Dinkins. Yeah. But, you know, you know the story, but one of our ideas here is that only New Yorkers remember. The rest of the country, if they haven't heard about it, it's gone down the memory hole. Well, that's the point.

I'm a New Yorker. But, yeah, most Americans would think, what? In America, this happened? Yeah, the mayor of New York, David Dinkins, a pathetic figure, among many pathetic figures who've been mayor of New York, including the current mayor. But so there was no leadership. And into the vacuum. stands, strides, the race baiter Al Sharpton, looking to make a name for himself. He already done that in the Tijuana Brawley incident a couple of years earlier.

These are real race baiters and race hustlers. These are bad people who are happy to ride the wave of this, you know, no different than David Duke on the side of white supremacy. But it's horrifying to think that this happened in New York. So what happened in the day? How long did this go on? Because I don't remember this. It went on for three days until the mayor, David Dinkins and his police chief,

Lee Brown, were themselves attacked by rioters. And then they turned to their deputy police chief, Ray Kelly, said, end the riot, which he did in a matter of hours. So the question is, why didn't they do it? And I believe, you know, this is, I on your show expressed my opinion, I try to have the documentary be very straightforward, We have Al Sharpton on it, and we have him make his case, and they can decide whether they accept Al Sharpton's version of events or yours. But in my opinion, David Dinkins, who is not anti-Semitic, just couldn't take on the left wing of his party, the progressive wing, whatever you want to call it, the Al Sharpton wing.

And you see that today. You saw that just last year on college campuses where presidents, well, also aren't anti-Semitic, couldn't stand up to the crowds that were. Hey, but let's just say, let's just be clear, they might as well be anti-Semitic. They might as well be, because if you can't stand up to the anti-Semites, you might as well be with them and because they effectively are with them. I mean, when you mention Ray Kelly, I just saw him at an event here in New York recently, a great police commissioner. His son is Greg Kelly, who's one of the main hosts on Newsmax. So again, this is not something that happened a million years ago. This is something happened very, very recently.

and it's stunning to face it. That is really true. I mean, a lot of the people involved said, especially we have a rabbi Shia hack talking about how, you know, they never thought America would not stand up for them. I mean, they felt the country let them down. And I myself am shocked to see the anti-Semitism on college campuses. I myself am Jewish.

And I never thought I would see days where Jews would feel afraid on places like Columbia and Harvard. I mean, one of the things that was defining about Crown Heights is a lot of the traditional Jewish organizations did not support Habad. The then head of the ADL, Abe Foxman apologized later for not speaking up for them. And there was a feeling that these are not our Jews.

You know, they're not on the Upper East Side. They're not on the Upper West Side. They wear black hats. They're too Jewish. Let's be honest. They're too Jewish. They're Brooklyn Jews. You know, we don't want to associate with them.

We're trying to pass as goys over here on the Upper West Side or whatever it is. But, I mean, honestly, it's true. They're too religious. So, you know, we don't want to be seen. That's, I mean, unfortunately, that's exactly, that's the thinking. But I think they have found when their own children are kind of under assault on places like Columbia, Harvard, Penn, now they see it as differently. You know, it's the same as always. First they come for the Hasidim, then they come for the race.

then they come for the rest of the Jews, and then they come for others. If you don't stand up to violent extremism, it doesn't stop. And that's the big lesson. Well, you may know the Bonhofer movie is coming out at the end of November, and I just think that the timing is just right to talk about this. I just read George Gilder's book, The Israel Test, Magnificent book. It's very, very important that we're talking about these things right now. And when the anti-Semitic protests were going on at Columbia University last year, or was it earlier this year, I was up there with some friends.

I had a couple of big Bonhofer posters because you have to counter this stuff. And I think that your film goes a long way to that. I'm just so glad, again, for the Wall Street Journal getting behind this. The website, folks, is WSJ.com. Wall Street Journal. dot com, WSJ.com slash opinion and you can see this film

for free. Are you planning to make other films in this series, Michael? We are. We have another one coming out in a month or two that it's on a completely different topic. It's about the prime ministership of Liz Trust, the shortest live

prime minister in British history. It's called the Prime Minister versus the blob because she feels she was done in by their version of the administrative state or the swamp. Well, this is like two years ago, right? Or is it a year ago? Two years ago.

It's not even as distant as crowd heights. Liz Truss, okay. Yeah, I was kind of wondering. Like, what happened to her? She was like 30 days. Well, watch the film. But the point really is we sometimes think of this as an American problem, you know, Donald Trump versus the swamp. But Liz Truss, a very different kind of politician had that same problem running against the same kinds of people, you know, in the UK.

So it's a good insight into the problems that. that we have here. Well, just like the Jews are the canaries in the coal mine. America is the canary in the coal mine. It's happening all over the world. Listen, evil is evil. And those who rage against God, they'll rage against the Jews. They'll rage against outspoken Christians.

And we have to acknowledge it. We have to talk about it. We want to get you back in the studio. When you come back to New York, please let us know. And we can talk about your films. This film is called Get the Jew, Brooklyn, 1991. Once again, it is free, folks. I can't wait to see it.

WSJ.com slash opinion. Michael Pack, thank you. Thank you, Eric. Great to be on your show. Hey there, folks. Before, I want to talk about something that this is ugly stuff. But I am in a hotel room in Lebanon, Pennsylvania.

And I'm on the road. And I'm a little off my game. And I thought, you know what? I need to address head on the Kevin Sorbo feud. He and I are, I don't know if he knows about this, but he and I are in a big feud right now. And it's getting ugly. And it started, I think, yesterday. It came up the other day on the air.

Yeah, we were talking about the movie. I said. Offer, it's not a Christian film. I said that the Bonhofer film that's coming out, November 22nd, write it down because you've got to go see it. But I said it's not like a Christian film. It's a mainstream film. And the way that you know that it's not a quote unquote Christian film is that Kevin Sorbo is not in it. And then, Chris, you said something about...

Yeah, you said it's a film you can bring your friends to. It's thought-provoking. And I said, well, I would love to bring Kevin Sorbo to it. And you said absolutely not. I said, and I believe I have as the author of the book, now look, I'm not officially linked to the film. But I just want to say as the author of the book that inspired these people to make a film on Bonhofer, I'm going to put my foot down. And I'm going to say Kevin Sorbo is banned from seeing the film.

And I want to say, now I'm going to address that in a second. And before I do that, I just want to quickly mention because what I have to say is it's kind of shocking. And so I want to just get this out of the way. I mention our friends at the Herzog Foundation. Folks, you know about them. We talk about them on the show almost every day. They're the trusted source, the trusted source on American K-12 private education. They are there to help you educate your kids.

They've got free resources for parents, grandparents, who are thinking about making the switch from public schools. to a Christian education genuinely, not in name only. You can find them at herdsogfoundation.com. That's herdsugfoundation.com. If you're interested in homeschooling, check out herdsogfoundation.com. And they have a podcast. You can go to readlion.com. Now, right there, you know, I'm talking about the Herzog Foundation and homeschooling

and reminds me of Sam Sorbo. I'm friends with Sam Sorbo. She's a guru. With Kevin Sorbo. I don't think she's aware of the feud yet because she sent me a very nice email or text rather yesterday. But the bottom line is as the author of this Bonhofer book, I feel I have the authority to ban Kevin from the film because I think the association with him, people think, oh, it's a Christian

film and I want to see it. And so I'm banning him from the film. And I got to tell you something over the years, sometimes, you know, we're pretty friendly. But I think sometimes I feel this resentment because a lot of people don't know this. I don't like to brag. But when he was doing Hercules, I was kind of like, I guess I was like a mentor to him with like. And the physical stuff. Yeah.

And when he got successful, a lot of people said, oh, like Eric Mataxis taught him all this stuff. You know, he's the man that taught Hercules how to do it. And I think he resented that. And I get that, you know, because people like Ernest Hemingway resented Gritrud Stein. And you see this happening through history. But the fact that I was his mentor, and I pretty much taught him how to do all that physical stuff. Once he got successful, he didn't want to hear it. And so there's been a lot of tension.

And we're going to be addressing that in the weeks ahead. I think it's important, folks, that you understand that. Well, it makes a lot of sense. you know, he can never be as Greek as you. And I felt like, you know, he probably felt as playing the Hercules character, who was clearly Greek. He could never really match up to your Greekness. And, you know, I get that.

And I prayed for Kevin, but it is what it is. Anyway, we better go. Thanks.