The Eric Metaxas Show - Michael Wilkerson (continued)

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Michael Wilkerson, author of “Why America Matters,” continues his examination of current events, like the Russia-Ukraine war and the destructive downside of digital currency.

Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m.investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. Ladies and gentlemen, buckle your seatbelts and keep your arms and legs inside the car at all times. Here comes Mr. Thrill Ride himself, Eric Mattaxas. Folks, welcome back. We continue now in hour two with Michael Wilkerson. He's the author of an extraordinary book, highly recommended, Why America Matters, the case for New Exceptionalism. And he can be found at stormwall.com, where he writes on many issues, including the ones we're discussing now. So you're giving us the background on why this Ukraine-Russia involvement on our part, and our advocacy is not quite what we've been sold. It's a little complicated.

So you are saying for one thing, no matter what position you take on Putin, nonetheless, our sanctioning them has been bad for us. Any cornered rat will fight. And so we've put ourselves in a position where we've left Russia, Putin, with very future. They are taking the choices that they have, which, as we talked about before the break, is to strengthen an alliance of the damned. It is to get closer and closer. This is not carrot and stick, folks.

This is just stick. So if there's no carrot, what do you do? You fight against the stick. So, but I mean, this seems predictable, and it really does seem like the people wargaming at the Pentagon or at the State Department. They're idiots. I mean, I could put it in a more nuanced way, but who cares? They seem not to be wise. They seem not.

It's kind of like the, you know, you had one job. This is literally your one job is to look out for U.S. interests. And it sounds like at least on this line, they have messed up. It is remarkably similar to the Vietnam War. Vietnam was not in the U.S. strategic interest. We had this idea about stopping communism everywhere. Couldn't do it for reasons that became apparent in time. The Ukraine has never been directly in the U.S. strategic interests.

interests. It's been in Russia's for centuries. It's been in Europe because of food, other other reasons. It is part of Europe. It has been part of Russia from time to time. The U.S. had no direct strategic interest, but this was existential to the Russian regime on a view that NATO was encroaching closer and closer and closer. And imagine, Eric, if you would, how would the U.S. react if Mexico reached an agreement with China to allow fighter jets and bombers and other naval installations in Mexico? we wouldn't stand for it. And we have to turn the tables and ask, you know, what is motive? What is incentive here? I still, and again, I may be being merely naive, but I believed when the Soviet Union fell that this was an opportunity to invite Russia, this is, you know, way before Putin, back into the community of nations, back into the pre-1917. European picture.

It struck me as a grand opportunity to do that, and it seems that we have worked strongly against that, not just let it ride and screwed up an opportunity, but worked against that by pushing this NATO vision. You're right, and here is what... I don't want to be right. Here's what's worse. We had an opportunity, which we may have squandered now,

to bring Russia in from the cold in the conflict with China. In other words, to turn Russia into perhaps a weak ally, but an ally, or at least a neutral. Like France. If conflict with China arises, it already has, but I mean in a kinetic sense, it would have been helpful. It would have been nice to have Russia at least a neutral or on our side. We're squandering that opportunity in this moment. Now, hang on.

Isn't that part of this, we have to go back to 2016, everyone, all the powers that be hated Donald Trump so much that they claimed that there's this thing called Russian collusion. We know it's total baloney, but for three years, they feasted on this and shoved it down everyone's throats, disgusting mixed metaphor. But that seems to me part of it. In other words, what wise American leadership would have done under Trump is reach out to Russia, even as late as 2016. But because of those who hated Trump, they effectively made that impossible. Not just effectively, but one could argue intentionally. In other words, if they saw, let's call it the deep state, that they saw the potential that I was just describing for a representative. prochmo with Russia, this Russia gate, let's call it for simplification, basically made it

impossible for the Trump administration to pursue even the potentiality of reconciliation approach between, re-approachment between the two nations, leading to an ally against a rising China. They stopped it that way. They've stopped it in a number of other ways. Okay, so to sum up, liberals and Trump haters in general caused Putin's invasion of Ukraine. So it's complicated, but... Kind of sounds like that's what happened. It led to it.

Well, Putin was painted as a Saturn who just eats his own children, as this diabolical... We don't normally allow classical references. This is a Christian program, but continue. You see it in the media everywhere, that he is this evil person, and I'm not advocating for him, And what I'm suggesting is that he was acting in the best interests of his nation.

We were closing off opportunities, options for Russia to find a way into the international community. What has happened, however, I wrote a year ago that the sanctions regime itself would backfire on the U.S. So what do I mean by that? Well, we've talked about how Russia has found a way, because they plan on it for a decade, to circumvent sanctions, both trade sanctions and financial sanctions. There have been real losses. I'm not trying to minimize it, but they've replaced their exports. They found buyers for their oil and gas. They are busy creating new alliances with the BRICS nations, with Saudi Arabia, with this gallery of rogues that somehow seemed quite happy to join this really Chinese-led alliance where Russia is now moving in. On the other side, on the side of Europe and the U.S., Europe in particular, has suffered terribly from sanctions. Again, we talked about Western Europe and even Eastern European dependence on Russian gas.

They've had to find replacements. Inflation has been running above 10% for over a year and a half. It was already entrained before the invasion, but certainly the war and conflict and sanctions have accelerated the pace of inflation. Wholesale electricity prices are up 4 to 500% across Europe. They barely skated by an energy crisis over the winter because temperatures were warmer. They're trying to find alternatives. They are suffering in that sense. Globally, the world is becoming more food insecure because of prohibitions and blockages of Ukraine and Russian fertilizer, wheat, other agricultural products.

So this is hurting all of us in many, many ways. The U.S. has spent upwards or committed to spend upwards of $100 billion on the Ukraine. This is not something that the American people had the chance to. raise their hand and vote on to express a view. Isn't you something that went through in some cases through Congress? Some of it did. Some of it didn't. Most of it was hidden in bills.

I think that $100 billion could have been much better spent on a number of things here in the U.S. We have our own issues to deal with. Building a wall on the southern border? Nah. It's incredible. It's hard to process all this stuff, Michael, because it is complicated. So what is your view now of what we ought to do? You called Ukraine at some point in one article, I think, a NATO puppet regime in a way.

And whenever, I guess my thing is whenever I see everybody moving in one direction, like the trend is, you know, everybody's putting out Ukraine flags, I am immediately suspicious because I just think, wait a minute, all these liberals, particularly, suddenly they care about human rights, they care about democracy, they care about whatever. In other words, it just smells like a rat to me. I just think something's not right here. When everybody's like, oh, you better say this. You better say Ukraine, good, Russia, evil. They've made it, when that kind of pressure comes, I'm always, I'm just always generally suspicious. We're going to go to a break Plenty more with Mike Wilkerson. The book is Why America Matters.

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in contrast to Putin is the devil, that its soldiers are valiant and heroic. They are. But you're not hearing the other side of the story. hearing, for example. Now, listen, some of this might be true. I think the Russians are committing atrocities. We have a friend Chad Robichot, who has spoken to me privately about that. I mean, so this is definitely complicated, but keep going. And I'm not saying that any of this isn't, there aren't truths in all of this. My point is, what are you allowed to hear? And in America, what is interesting is what we are not allowed to hear is anything from the other side.

That's the point. That's the main point. Okay. War is a horrible thing. and atrocities are being committed on both sides, likely. And heroism and kindness is being committed on both sides. On the other hand, interesting, Eric, you know, I'm a man of a certain age. I've been trying to learn French, okay? And as part of the way I learn French, I've been listening to a lot of French media coming from, it turns out France. In France, in their media, even their mainstream media,

they are hearing, the public is hearing both sides. They're hearing leaders from Ukraine, but they're also hearing leaders and spokespeople from the Kremlin, from the Russian. government. We're not getting that. Even in France, they, at least, they're allowed to hear the other side. They may not agree. This isn't a fawning conversation. These are very confrontational. But the public is getting an opportunity to hear both sides and make their own decision. The narrative is being controlled here in the U.S. We're not hearing the true progress of the war. Well, and look, to be clear, too, you're making the claim that there are two sides. And I can understand people

saying what's there to say? Russia intervened. They're the aggressor. They're doing these things. It's wrong. What, you know, why should we hear their side? Well, one reason would be a weird part of the narrative that we've been given is that the war started on February 24th. That just out of nowhere, Russia unprovoked, invaded a neighboring country in Europe. And that's all you need to know. What you're not, what is not being told is the U.S. involvement in the coup in Ukraine in 2014. What is not being talked about is the U.S. intelligence involvement in the Orange Revolution's and other movements in Ukraine. What's not being talked about is the biolab in Ukraine that was U.S. funded and operated. What's not being talked about is Undersecretary Victoria Newland's role in all the above, all the aforementioned issues.

This is something, and again, what's not being talked about is NATO-pressing Russia's border for Ukraine to join as a member. actions have consequences, events have precedence, the Americans, American people have a right to hear and to understand how this began, and especially they should understand how is this going to end. There's been no clear explanation about how this resolves. And this brings up the specter of, you know, quote unquote, World War III. I mean, the idea that we're driving Russia into the arms of a real, evil enemy communist China, that's a little scary. It's very scary. Now, all of those nations at the same time are unwinding themselves from U.S. financial commitments. So they're selling our debt. They're moving their trade from dollars to other currencies. This is happening so quickly that it's almost incomprehensible. We're going through a process called de-dollarization, this idea that people around the world are no longer used the dollars, spend the reserve currency since World War II. that means they hold it. Let's let some, this can be like the worst thing that ever happened to the United States of America. And actually, Donald Trump in an interview, was it with Tucker Carlson, said something along those lines, that if we lose that, if the dollar is no longer the standard, it's like, what did he say? It's like losing a world war. I mean, like it's a monumental loss for the United States of America. Am I wrong?

It's a monumental loss. Now, we can talk about that. I want to say it could, there could be some upsides. It could be some good things. It could be helpful to restoring our manufacturing base in the U.S. because the dollar wouldn't be so overpriced. And so U.S. exporters might do well. So there would be winners and losers. But no, on the whole, it is not a good thing. So what does de-dollarization mean? It means that right now we have a lot of debt. America has a lot of debt.

We sell that debt to foreigners. They decide to stop holding it, as they are. So China in the last few years has been dumping U.S. dollars and buying gold. Russia's been buying gold. Nations around the world are doing the same thing. They're getting out of the U.S. dollar. That's reserves. The other is trade.

using it in trade, U.S. banks, this whole system benefits from that. It was already happening slowly that U.S. dollars becoming less important. Since the war, in the last year and a half, the process has accelerated dramatically. I said almost frightening speed, this is a real issue for our economy and for our financial markets. Do you think this is intentional on the part of the left, the anti-American Biden left? I think it's a pro-China Biden left? I think there has to be some. some intentionality behind this. It's just too obvious. Is there ignorance at work? Absolutely.

Do actors have different motives? Is it a conspiracy with one king sitting in the center of the conspiracy? Or is it overlooping circles of interest? Probably more of the latter. But absolutely, some of this is intentional. You talked about it earlier. The greed, the economic incentives, those things play out. They lead to action. But it just looks like if others have said this, of course, but it really looks like the Biden administration, certainly not headed up by the bumbling puppet that is Joe Biden, but that the Biden administration looks to be working overtime to undermine U.S. strength, to destroy America, as we know it, on every front. That's what it looks like.

So I think it's a combination of bumbling ineptitude and evil. But this sounds like part of that. Our current Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, was Biden's campaign manager and is the person responsible for initiating the letter to the intelligence agencies to say that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. Our national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, worked for Hillary Clinton, very closely associated with some of these other issues that we talked about. This is a group of individuals who collectively are not working for the American people, are not looking out for our best interests. I mean, again, that seems obvious. The Russian disinformation thing is so despicable. It is so the level of cynicism, it is a nihilistic, sick view of America, of the American people,

and that they pushed this the way they did in the media. I don't know. There's no category in my mind. Where do you go with this level of lying and gaslighting to the American people on behalf of the intelligence? of the intelligence community. It's mind-blowing to me. These people are paid by our tax dollars. You see it here.

You see it, of course, with everything around COVID, in terms of origins of the virus, efficacy of vaccines, all of the lies that were told to us. Going back even 10 years, the lies in the Obama administration, that, no, your government isn't spying on you. This is all continuing to happen. We need somebody to compile a list of the biggest lies

of our generation, Eric, and the role that the government has had in undermining its own people. Well, I mean, in a book I wrote, it came out in 2016 called If You Can Keep It, the forgotten promise of American liberty, I talk about how if the American people don't basically believe that we the people are the government, if we begin to get cynical and to say we are being lied to, the tendency is to detach and to allow the elites to run things, basically. Because if you don't believe your vote counts, if you don't believe you're being told the truth, you gradually pull back.

And that is the destruction of the United States of America. You cannot have America self-governing unless people are engaged, unless they buy in to the system with its problems. And it seems to me that the level of lying that we have seen just in the last few years is effectively unprecedented. I mean, we always heard, well, politicians are liar? They tell you their version of things. But it seems to have moved dramatically past that, at least in my estimation. When the government officially tells you that black is white and white is black, that right is wrong and wrong is right, then we're in real trouble.

Now, you're right that people can pull back into this isolation, not doing anything, not getting involved. On the other hand, because these lies are coming out, and they have been coming out in this avalanche over the last two years, it is waking up the central part of America. No, that's exactly what I've been saying, and I agree with that, and that is our only hope that it's gotten so bad that some people who were asleep are, in fact, waking up and getting engaged. When moms and dads see what is being taught to their children, in public schools, which they had opportunity to in lockdowns, when we began to understand what is going on, there is, I think we're in a moment, Eric, where we have real opportunity for America to reawaken. One of the virtues of America historically was that we were very involved

in politics, very involved in civic life in our generation. That went away, whether it's because of cynicism after the Vietnam War, Watergate, social media, all the things that distracted us, we're now in a moment where we have an opportunity to reawaken, and for that virtue, that civic virtue of involvement of getting off the couch, away from behind the screen, and onto the streets, and getting involved and resisting. Right. And if you're doing nothing, folks, you are definitely part of the problem.

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The government doesn't have our best interests at heart. The government has no business, you know, sending our boys to die in Vietnam. Those are the liberals. And now it's conservatives, pro-Trump people, a lot of still a lot of liberals. I mean, it's like the narrative has really changed. The central narrative that our government is out of control and lying to us

hasn't changed. But it's interesting to me that we now see it that those of us like me who would have supported Bush and the Iraq war and stuff that we've come around to say, my goodness, in many ways, the liberals were absolutely right. We've all been buying this narrative.

We've been fooled. We're in this strange new world, unrecognizable, where old-school liberals and populist conservatives are aligned and have more in common with one another against the interests of the surveillance state, against the interests of the globalists, against the interests of always war, always... Well, okay, now you've just said it.

The globalists, the surveillance state, that is what we're fighting today. And so you have really idiots who are talking about Christian nationalism. And, you know, like, it's almost funny. I say idiots. It's just amazing to me that there are people out there who don't understand that we are dealing with a very powerful China that is dramatically atheist. They have zero human rights views. They believe it is perfectly fine to murder young people, if you can get away with it, and sell them for body parts.

They are doing that. So we're dealing with this like diabolical atheist communist power. And yet we are also seeing the globalists working with them, all of it at war with what we would think of as the most fundamental founders' vision of the United States of America, of liberty, of human rights, the individual, all that basic stuff, we're seeing globalists and the communist Chinese at war with it. And this is a new thing. It's a new thing and it's a scary thing.

And anybody who claims to be some kind of person of faith that doesn't see this as a moral issue, I'm just fascinated. You know, one of the things that I focus on a lot in the book Why American Matters is this issue of globalism. What does it mean? What does it represent? And in summary, you know, you say it's this idea of this technocratic elite that doesn't believe in democracy that needs to undermine the nation state in order to accomplish its objectives. So needs to destroy America in order to accomplish its objectives, which is kind of not a small thing, folks, if you're paying attention. So I think there's a lot we could talk about on the issue of globalism, what it represents, where the dangers are. A couple other things, just to bring it all the way back to the beginning, we talked about this migration between isolationism and hyper interventionism.

You know, I argue in why America matters that America faces a choice, which is between an empire, this idea of we're going to rule everything everywhere, which is really what this century has been about, what this war on terror, what all of this that we've been talking about is about, or a new nationalism. And by nationalism, I don't mean it the way it said negatively, like a racial nationalism, a religious nationalism. No, a healthy nationalism. A love for your country. Right. A patriotism. Right. Where Americans, again, we get back to this idea of we, the people.

We can impact that when we have more time. But I think this is the tension that we have today is between this idea of, is America an empire or are we a nation? Are we going to defend our own borders, which we're not today? And there is this link, as you pointed out, to this globalist ideal. However, that ideal wants to just wipe it out. Think about the objectives of China. It isn't just to supplant the U.S. economically to become the number one power, et cetera.

It's important that they undermine the ideas that America represents. Liberty, justice, and civil rights. I've been reading that Chinese nationals have been coming over our southern border. Folks, think about that. We've just exposed Chinese police stations in New York City. Like this is unbelievable. This is out of some dystopian movie. It's unbelievable that these kinds of things are happening. And we have globalist suckers like Biden and whoever else is in his administration who seem to be all for these things. They do not seem to care. They do not seem to lift a finger against these things. We've had a total bait and switch from the Biden that was promised to us in elections and even his commencement speech to this completely hijacked by the radicalized progressive left. It has its social aspect.

Wait a minute. You mean David French got it wrong? Come on. Look, I think everybody saw this coming. I certainly, I knew this was going to happen. I mean, it's just so clear that Biden is not actually the president. He is not running things. He has given things over.

He sold his soul to the devil very happily so he could become quote-unquote president. We're at a time. We want you to stick around so we can talk to you more tomorrow. So don't leave Michael Wilkerson. If you want to find Michael Wilkerson, you can go to stormwall.com. Stormwall.com. There's an article there every week. The book is Why America Matters.

You should get a copy. Thanks for listening. Folks, welcome back. If you are a listener to this program, if you watch us on Rumble, I hope you do, because I want you to see what I'm wearing. You know that whenever we can, we have on our friend Robert Netsley. Who is Robert Netsley, you ask? Well, since he's on right now, I can ask him to tell you. Robert Natsley, first of all, welcome.

Hey, thank you for having me again, Eric. It's pleasure. For those in my audience who are in and out and don't remember or never heard you and who it is, what it is that you do and whom you represent, just tell my audience the nutshell version, if you don't mind. Sure. So I'm the founder, CEO of a firm called Inspire Investing, where the world's largest faith-based provider of exchange traded funds. And we do something called biblically responsible investing. Essentially, we invest the hell out of your money. People are unaware generally that there's all sorts of little demons like abortion drug manufacturers, LGBT activism, pornography companies, etc., running around in most 401K options, mutual funds.

And so we have the technology and expertise to illuminate that and help people invest in companies that are not making the world a terrible place to live and undermining your deeply held values and ways of life and help to inspire transformation by advocating with these companies to. respect biblical values and conservative values on behalf of our clients. I don't normally do this, but on my social media today on Twitter, I posted a link because I want to encourage people. This is hard, folks, because I understand that unless things get really, really, really, really, really bad, our tendency is to do nothing or to just kind of float along and not to take any kind of action. But I want to say that, the reason that we have Robert Netsley on here is because he has brought to my attention, what he just mentioned, that most of us have thousands and thousands of dollars.

Some people, millions of dollars, invested in things that are helping destroy America, helping to work against the values that you claim to believe in. it is not difficult to do something about that, but it does take some effort. You have to actually know about it, and then you have to go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. So that's what I put on my Twitter feed because I feel like, and I've said this, Robert, I've had you on this program before, people do not realize the power they have they're not using. and you have to use the power you have. So the money that you have invested in various places,

if you let it go, you can make some money off of things that are destroying America. So it's like eating like an ice cream while you're sitting on a branch on a tree that is being sawed off with every lick of the ice cream. You're going to die, but you know, you're just enjoying the ice cream. Yeah. What is happening right now with a lot of us,

we've got our money, whether it's a little bit or a lot, in these funds, and we're just unaware of it. So you, Robert, this is what you do. So the company that you run, of course, is inspire investors, but for the link, people need to go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. So that's the action point. But tell us about your affiliation. You've been working with the Alliance Defending Freedom, Total Heroes.

We've talked about them on this program many many times. but talk about one of the things you're involved in with them right now. Yeah, so we were contacted by Alliance of Fending Freedom a few years ago to start working together on shareholder activism. And so recently we've been partnering up on some shareholder proposals regarding this whole trend of debanking conservatives and people of faith. You know, you may have heard some people like Ambassador Brownback, getting debanked by Chase and some other.

high profile. Now, hold on. It's like a really ugly verb. Speaking as a word smith, it's just a grotesque term. But what does it mean? It sounds a little bit better. It means it's really evil. Yeah, well, yeah.

It means that if you have a, right, so if you're a conservative person or you have certain political viewpoints or hold certain faith-based values, this is a bank saying we don't like that. We're closing your accounts or severing relationships with you, canceling your loans, canceling your lines of credit, whatever those may be, as a business or as an individual, and you don't have access to the financial services. You need to run a ministry, run a nonprofit, run your life.

You know, your friend Mike Lindell, you know, has suffered from this sort of thing. I think it was it last year or year before. There's a long list that's growing. It's a troubling trend. It doesn't matter what your values are. I mean, whether you're conservative or liberal or somewhere in between or on the, whatever, right?

you should have access to a bank account in America, for heaven's sake. And so what we're doing with Alliance Depending Freedom is putting it to these banks, some large banks that are in our portfolios, we filed shareholder resolutions with several last fall. I'm going to highlight one in particular because it's been in the news, signature bank. So signature bank, if you've recently heard, had a massive implosion and, you know, has been taken into receivership and the FDIC and this big problem, right?

Well, last fall, we filed this resolution to force them to make transparent their so-called hate speech policies or anti-discrimination policies. I'm making flying rabbit ears or anybody can't see me. Because oftentimes these are so vague that they're used by folks in these banks to just, well, hate speech means whatever I think it means. And so that means if you believe the marriage of pun a man and a woman only, then I might think that's hate speech. and cancel your accounts, right? So it's a problem. So we're forcing them to make these policies transparent, opening them up to public accountability and scrutiny

to make sure that they're not these vague statements that can be misinterpreted and twisted to hurt people, but instead are clear and actually do what they're supposed to do. And so Signature Bank in particular was not interested in having a resolution put on their ballot. They fought that. We, along with Alliance Defended Freedom, pushed back. They acquiesced and our shareholder resolution was then approved by regulators and the company to be put on the ballot.

And then they went out of business. So it's a little bit of a moot point. But the point is maybe they should have been paying more attention to their core business of running a good bank instead of... We're just at a time in this segment. I just want to tell my audience, folks, this is. real. If you don't get involved, if you don't take your funds out of some of these places, I mean, the idea of debanking, this is wicked, this is right out of the book of revelation, go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. Please go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric.

Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Robert Netsley. inspireadvisors.com slash Eric is the action point because Robert you every time I talk to you I'm amazed at what is happening and you kind of wonders anybody do anything about it. You're doing something about this.

What is happening is it's right out of the book of Revelation. If you don't play ball with the Marxist loonies, with the transgender activists, with the viewpoint diversity score, garbage, if you don't play that game, people are being prohibited from having access to their banks, to their money. They are being targeted. If you have biblical values, you are being targeted or the big fish are being targeted.

They're going to come for you soon enough. But you need to stand now. And so many of us are just kind of drifting along like, well, it'll happen to somebody else. and the reason I wrote a letter to the American churches, because that's everybody in Germany thought exactly that. And so you can be guilty or you can step up and do something right now. And it's why I wanted to have you, Robert Nestle, back on the program, because you were just sharing with us on and off the air about the horror of this,

that this is actually happening and how people, first of all, need to get their money out of funds and out of companies that are supporting values that are completely at war with what most of us believe in. So in order to do that, you can go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric, folks, please do it. It's free. But Robert, you're not making this up. And it doesn't seem like most people are aware of this, that this is happening today. It's happening right now. Yeah, people are losing their access to financial services because of their political affiliations and their religious beliefs. in America, right?

And like you said, well, it's just these high profile people. And it's just kind of an elitist, you know, game going on. Well, no, it really is going to trickle down if left unchecked to you and me and the people listening here. And we need to stand up and say, hey, this, like enough is enough. And money is power, right? Money is power. The money you have is giving somebody power. So where are you putting your,

your money. That matters. What funds are you putting your money in? What fund companies are you investing with? Are they standing for your values? Are they using your money, your power to advocate for your destruction and your family's destruction, instruction, instruction of America and everything you hold dear? You've got to think about this, right? So inspire and we manage about $2 billion right now. We're one of the fastest growing investment firms in the nation because we're standing up and speaking biblical truth to corporate power. And good friends like Eric right here and others who are just sharing this message and getting it out to the masses. We need to get together and wake up.

And that's why we're making this free offer, inspiredvisors.com slash Eric, where if you want to know what's in your portfolio, good, bad and ugly, we're going to give you that information, do that report for free so you can do something about it, right? Take some action, whether it's with us or with somebody else, but just don't do nothing, right?

Don't do nothing, do something. Because frankly, it happens on. It happened in Germany. People say, how did that happen? How did that happen? And I want to be really clear, folks. It happened exactly as it is happening right now with good people. doing nothing or hesitating and saying, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll do it another time. It's not them.

I've got a lot of other stuff to worry about. And they pick us off one at a time. If you do not tow the woke line, they're coming after you, after your money, after your ability to buy and sell. This is out of the book of revelation. What will it take to wake us up? I promise. you that you're going to feel very guilty if you don't step up. We're doing all we can to communicate this. The action point, since we're out of time, inspireadvisors.com slash Eric, just go there. Please tell your friends. We've got to get our money out away from these wicked, wicked corporations. Inspireadvisors.com slash Eric.