The Eric Metaxas Show - Michael Youssef

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

Michael Youssef asks an important question that's on a lot of people's minds, "Is the end near?" -- and his new book with the same title looks into the possible answer from what's written in the Bible.

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First segment. You know what that means? It means that we have to do this Ask Mattaxas schick, where people write in, they ask me questions, someone he puts them together, and then you read them to me, and I make an attempt to answer them. I will do that now. Okay. I love this schick. Stick. Stick is good. Okay. Here's question number one. How was the Socrates in the city event with Andrew Claven? What is coming up next for Socrates in the city? Man, that's a cream puff question. I don't have to think very hard on that. Andrew Claven, it was so good that in the, we have a patron's dinner afterward where, you know, people who help support Socrates come to a dinner.

And we usually do Q&A with, with the guest, with Andrew Claven. So we did that. And what he said there, like I was annoyed as I often am when people say stuff that's so great. I'm like, you're wasting it on, you know, 30 people. this should be filmed. So I had the idea of doing another event with Andrew Claven, maybe in Philadelphia or someplace else, because there's so much more.

So it was so wonderful. Look, he is a gift. I want to tell you, folks, he's an amazing gift. His book, The Great Good Thing, where he talks about how he came to faith, and then his most recent book, which was very literary, he is an astonishing human. being and a genius. And I enjoyed it, you know, to say that I enjoyed it is saying a lot,

because sometimes it's just kind of, you know, it's, it feels a little bit like work. Like I enjoy it, but it's, you know, there's a lot going on and stuff. And I actually felt, I just enjoyed it. What can I tell you? I enjoyed it. It was wonderful. And we will get the video up as soon as possible. And folks, I want to tell you, by the way, tomorrow on Socrates and City, we are airing my Socrates and City interview part two with Walter Hooper. One of the greatest interviews I've ever done in my life. We aired part one a week or two ago.

We're going to air part two tomorrow. And then we'll probably air part three another time. It was, he's the man who knew C.S. Lewis. And when you hear the whole story, you'll get it. But that's tomorrow on this program. Okay. Thank you. Yes.

What has been your... Wait, I'm sorry. I forgot. I was supposed to say what's coming up. Yes. If you go to sockdeeandcity.com, you can register for the Houston event with James tour that's going to be

October 12th in Houston and then we just opened up a registration for November 1st with David Berlinski who is forget it like sane genius funny like forget it. There you go. Thank you. Okay, here we go.

By the way, I bought Andrews Claven's book at the event the truth and beauty and was reading it on the train back home the night after Socrates and it was, it's just amazing. amazing. It is amazing. In fact, I have to reread it. Like, it's so good, I must reread it. Yes. Each once, yeah. Okay. Question number two, what was, what has been your favorite interview in the past few weeks? Naomi Wolfe. The other day, I interviewed Naomi Wolfe. That woman, I am proud

to know her. I always say that she was in my class at Yale. She was very liberal, feminist. She is a hero. And if you have not seen the interview, now, by the way, I just sent out an email a few minutes ago to the Erekmataxis.com list. If you're not signed up for that, folks, you've got to go to Ericmetaxis.com, sign up for the newsletters. Because some of these interviews, I'm telling you, they're going to help save this country and the world. my interview with Naomi Wolf, I don't know where else you're going to see this stuff. Maybe if you watch Steve Bannon or you're tuned in to some other places, but there is an utter blackout on all this information.

And this stuff is, it's nothing less than astonishing that they're not covering what she talked about on the program. So if you haven't seen it, again, I set out the video, you can find it on Rumble, but I just did it a couple of days ago. it is absolutely searing, sickening, vital information that no one is reporting on. If you want to know how bad things are, the idea that people are not reporting on what Naomi Wolf has discovered, they sued Pfizer to get internal documents on the vaccine. This is Pfizer's internal documents.

She talks about it. I'm telling you, you're responsible for this information. please please watch that interview and share it everywhere you can please the the nation is at stake we are in living in insane times okay next question how was let us worship that's more positive yeah uh let us worship yeah sean foyte of course he's a friend he was in new york city uh and i mentioned this the other day we had him on the program but it was an event in time square so it was a little bit surreal because time square is a weird place like I don't know why anybody would go to Times Square. If you're a tourist and you say, we're going to Times Square, I want to say as a New Yorker,

I don't know why you'd go there. You might as well go to Disneyland or whatever. Times Square is just like a bizarre, like tourist trap, almost literally. But to worship Jesus in that place, it was very powerful. It was absolutely powerful. And I'm grateful for Sean Foyt. Yeah, yeah. Do you have any insider?

information on the midterms. Yes, I do. I happen to know that if you who are listening and your friends don't all vote, the country will continue to vanish. If there's anybody listening who says, my vote doesn't matter, how are they going to steal the vote? I want to say you are the problem. You are the problem. You need to do everything you can. If you're cynical and fatalist, you are the problem. We need to fight. The least you can do is vote. If they end up stealing the votes or whatever, that's another story. But make sure you vote because I cannot tell you innumerable people of faith and patriots don't vote. California would be a red state if all of the serious Christians in California where I am now voted. Many of them literally don't vote. And I just want to say that it's a scandal,

folks. It's a scandal. People have given their lives for our liberty. The least you can do is vote. Do you want to get involved in the election process? If you want to be a poll watcher, that's even better. But for the love of Pete, vote, vote, vote, thank you. Do you have a list of churches across the country that you enjoy and agree with? Yeah, they're the ones that seem to invite me these days. You know, Jack Hibbs is, is one here in California. Rob McCoy, Mike McClure's Church. There's a number in California,

Cheon. The Californians are the heroes. A number of churches in Houston. I was at Second Baptist Houston recently, but it's typically all these churches that invite me. A lot of other people have maybe decided, maybe I'm a little too political. That's kind of the point, folks.

It's not about being. political. It's about being faithful. And some people see that as political, which is the problem. We need to stand up for the truth. Okay. Just finished reading letter to the American church. What do you think is the most important takeaway and bullet points from the book? I kind of think we are either on the verge of losing everything or if the church, and by the church, that means those who claim to be Christians. I don't mean the official church. Many of the official churches are dead.

But if those who claim to be Christians will speak the truth, we'll stand up for what is right, we'll stand against Marxism, which is atheist, which is cruel and which murders and tortures people and silences people in China, and which is infiltrating this country and which is infiltrating a lot of weak church, If you don't do your part, we lose everything. And this is not hyperbole. How I wish it were hyperbole.

It is not. We are at the very verge. And if you don't do your part, it's gone. If you do, if the church will stand up and learn the lesson that we need to learn that I try to put in the book, Letter to the American Church, I believe we're on the verge of reformation and revival and great things. But it's it's up to you folks, it's up to you. Sounds like a cliche, but it is true. It's up to you. We're at a time. We'll be right back.

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Right now we're talking about his new book. How about this for a title? Is the end near what Jesus told us about the last days? Michael Yusef, my friend, welcome. Thank you so much. I regret to be with you. We have never lived at a time when asking the question is the end near, is itself so startling? Because it's one thing to say, are we in the end times?

We know we're in the end times. I think there's little doubt about that. The question now is where in the end times are we? What we're seeing is unprecedented in our lifetimes. So what do you say, Dr. Yousef in the new book, Is the End Near? What is your observation? Well, it's not just unprecedented for our lifetime, as you know, I'm a little bit of an amateur historian, and I have looked through the annals of history. Is there so many of the things that our Lord Jesus Christ himself said

about the nearness of the end, as they all come together now? And, you know, you've known me for a long time. what people who watch me around the world and in this country and listen to me on radio, that I'm not an in-time preacher. There are some who are, and they specialize on it with the charts and the Gog and the Magog and the Armageddon. And that's fine. Don't forget Henry Kissinger arising as the Antichrist. Don't ever forget that one. Hitler and Mussolini.

I mean, all those things have happened. Gobachioff because of the mark on his forehead. You and I have seen all this. And so I did not get into any of this. I wanted to know what my Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal son of God who co-existed with the Father before all worlds, said when he was asked the question in Matthew 24,

and he was asked the question, how do we know the end is near? and our Lord does something really amazing. Most people miss it. He talks about two different events. He talks about the fall of Jerusalem, which happened in 70 AD, and he talks about on that day, and then he gives him another stone going to be on top of the other. Then he goes on to say, but in talking about immediately before his return.

And then he gives us what I put. in the book as six labor pains that a woman expecting a baby go through. And he explained, basically, there are two things in the scripture. There's a thief in the night. He's going to come as a surprise. But these are for the people who have no oil in their lamp like the five foolish virgins. But for those who are ready, those who are prepared, those who are waiting for his return, he talks about labor pain

and having had 11 grandchildren and four children and now you know this labor pains they come in longer intervals and as the happy event gets closer it goes into much closer intervals I used to tell my sons and when their wives were pregnant I said if those labor pains

start coming every hour or 40 minutes, you better get a nut car and go to the hospital because they're going to come every 20 minutes, then 15 minutes, 10 minutes. So somebody would say, Michael, but we've had earthquakes and we have wars and rumors of wars. Yes, but they're coming at closer and closer intervals, which to me indicates what our Lord said is that we need to get ready because when they come at closer intervals, the great and happy event is about to take place. The baby is about to be born. Give us an example, because I'm not aware that they're coming in closer intervals. That's not something that I have, I mean, things are spiraling out of control in other ways, and we can talk about that, and there's other

evidence. But when you say that, what do you mean by that? I document the spaces, for example, between earthquakes in the past and now. There are literally happening around the world. Some of them we don't even hear about in the news, but they are happening. I document all of that. I am not a person who said, well, I feel that way. Now, everything I have there is documented. But the other thing our Lord also said, several things, is that apostasy. He talks about the falling away. Now, remember the falling away, It's not for the non-believers, not for the atheists and the agnostics and the people who are not believers, but for the believers, they are here, but they fall away. And now, with all this daily news about pastors and singers are going through deconstruction, and that's a nice word of saying, they're falling away from the faith.

this apostasy is in the Greek is basically you believe this you maybe even have preached this but then you're falling away from it and this is happening all over the world not just in the United States a lot of people always make their predictions about what's happening in America well America's not the center of the world as grateful as I am to be here you have to look at globally for example

Revelation 18 talks about the merchants of the world. I mean, we're talking about the globe. 40 years ago or even 30 years ago, they're going to be mourning and so forth. And we couldn't understand that because, you know, each economy is independent. Now, one statement anywhere in the world, and the markets literally go down by trillions of dollars. So so many of the things that we are seeing now that the world is becoming. So the other thing is Jesus said, and I'm going to come back to the apostasy, by the way, because that's a very important one. He said, this gospel of the kingdom is right there.

So I stuck with Matthew 24 and 25. I gave in a buttressed my arguments without a passage of scripture, but I stayed with the words of Jesus. He said, this gospel of the kingdom must be preached in the world as a testimony to all nations, Ta, Ethna, that's every ethnic group, is going to come to hear the gospel, whether they're accepted or rejected. That's not the issue. They're going to hear it. And then the end will come.

And having been involved, as you know, in global ministry in 190-plus countries, thousands of times a week broadcasting in 31 languages. I know what is happening globally with the Internet, and so people now, if they want to know the gospel, it doesn't matter where they are, they will hear it. And so that's another evidence. But on the apostasy part, I come back to that because it's very, very important.

When I see people that I have known who once believed the gospel and walked with Christ on the gospel. Those very people, I know them personally. It makes me think of what Jesus said, particularly in Matthew 2424. He said that in those days, is going to be so dreadful, so dreadful,

with the coming of the Antichrist, that if possible, I emphasize that word because those are words of Jesus. If possible, he even would deceive. the elect. Some of the elect who are so non-discerning are going to fall for it. And we have seen the example of this with the COVID-19 pandemic. Nations that we thought democratic nations, freedom speech nations, whether it be Australia, where I'm very familiar, Canada, United States in England, the authoritarianism.

that had arisen. We've never seen anything like it. I was going to say that, on that issue alone, it is the most astonishing development in my lifetime to see roughly what happened in Germany under the Nazis, happening in America, happening in the... You think it didn't seem possible. And so this is a chilling thing to watch people

that ostensibly understood the idea of freedom to just throw it away, for reasons. There's always a good reason, right? Oh, it's for our safety. It's to prevent death or so whatever nonsense, because of course it is nonsense. We're going to go to a break. Just 20 seconds left, and then we'll go to a break. Please finish your thought there. Well, in Sydney, Australia, if you have found, or caught on camera, five miles away from your home, you got arrested. Victoria was even worse. In Canada, they arrested a pastor only, for opening the church. He didn't even bring people in. He just opened the church. Well, okay.

What I'm going to be talking about your church in November when you ask me to speak my new book, a letter to the American church, basically talking about this. How have we allowed this? How has the church been silent? I thank God you're not being silent. We'll be right back. We're talking to Dr. Michael Yousef. The book is, is the end near? Tell me, Eric, why is relief factors so successful at lowering or eliminating pain. I'm often asked that question. The owners of Relief Factor tell me they believe our bodies were designed to heal. That's right, designed to heal. And I agree with them. So the doctors who formulated relief factor for them selected the four best ingredients, yes, 100% drug-free ingredients, each helps your body deal with inflammation. Each of the four ingredients deals with inflammation from a different

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That's SalemNow.com. Salem now.com. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Dr. Michael Yousef, who has a new book out called Is the End Near. And Dr. Yousaf, you are talking about specifics. Yes. Why we should, why we must recognize that things have changed dramatically around the world. You were talking about the birth pains, that the space between the birth pains is, is growing less and less, which is a sign of the, the imminent birth, the sign of the Lord's return, the sign of the... So when you look at those things, where do you see us? Because I know there are many people who believe, as I do, that there is going to be revival, that the current season of madness has woken a lot of people up.

And so that in some ways it's been a blessing to the remnant, to the church, for those outside the church who look at the church and think that there's some people in the church, who are speaking up, who see these things, and at the same time, there's a kind of a diminuendo toward the end? Sure. Look, I would long for that. I have prayed for an awakening for 45 years, and I would long to see an awakening. They don't misunderstand me.

It really is. But if we are coming toward the end, my friend, Artie Kendall, we've been friends for many, many, decades, and he believes are going to have a revival before the return of the Lord. That's wonderful. I pray that is the case. On the other hand, I am seeing, as we talked before the break, about the COVID-19 and people became sheep and follow and rationalize why they need to be obedient to the authoritarian government. And that is, to me, at least, and I've got to express my opinion rather than the word of God. When I say, thus says the Lord, I make sure that thus says the Lord. But if I have an opinion, I believe Satan is preparing the world for the Antichrist.

And as he's preparing the world for Antichrist, this part of this sheepish and being led to the slaughter, as it were, is part of this preparation. Would I, to God, that we have an awakening and we have truly a spiritual revival, I am getting on the wrong. road now starting a whole new ministry of mass crusade evangelism. We have one big one and hope for the Colosseum and making. We're in New England and Belfast and Dublin and Cairo. I mean, I'm on the road now preaching evangelistic because we want to see people come to Christ. We want to see an awakening. But nonetheless, as an woman gets smaller, as the remnant, and I give an example, why I'm saying what I'm saying. When I see through our ministry, we have a

dedicated television station called Kingdom Set in 190 million homes in the Arabic-speaking world. We have thousands of people literally, I pray to the Lord, I don't become jaded. Thousands of Muslims coming to Christ all over the Arab world.

And then I see people here. Third of the church people have never gone back to church after COVID. And I said, well, it's a lot easier to be in my pajamas and drink coffee watching you. I said, you know, that tells me that God is also, while Satan is preparing the world for the Antichrist, God is preparing his faithful remnant. Those who are willing to die for him and the separation of the sheep and the goats has already begun.

And so those are all the things coalesced together to convince me that. we are coming into a very, very significant period in history. It seems, I mean, the way some people have described it is the growing up of the wheat and the tears together. And I think this is true. In other words, evil gets more evil. And yet the church is being winnowed. And we are seeing some in the church. And again, that's why I wrote my book to say, folks, now is the time to wake up.

Don't continue to drift along because this will inevitably, is leading to evil. There's no question. It's been happening if the church would wake up. And I hope that the madness of some of what we're seeing in every sphere is waking people up. I also think it's waking up non-believers who are saying, wait a minute, this is so strange. This doesn't seem normal. This doesn't seem. And I think that they are looking to heroic Christians for leadership and saying, that guy is willing to speak up. he opened his church, he defied the authorities. I can get on board with that kind of Christianity, which I haven't seen much of. Right.

Well, in fact, our church is an example of that. When other churches, especially the mega-churchases in Atlanta, did not open for six months. I didn't even go off for six weeks, and I just went ahead on open up, and people from other churches just coming, and then all of a sudden they began to hear the word of God. many of them become converted and now active members of the church. So this is the winnowing. This is that we're seeing this. Now people are saying all, you know, that one foot in the pier and one foot in the boat is not going to work anymore.

As a larger challenge his own people, he said, you know, stop going between Yawa and bail. You're going to choose one. And I think the time of choice is coming now. And I believe that's part of that sign of the in time. That's exactly right. In other words, I think that we've been allowed in a way to coexist or to not. We've seen clarification of who stands where just in the last few years. I mean, the presidency of Trump was similarly used this way. It was just like a bomb that sort of revealed, my goodness. These people that I thought were going to stand on this and this and this and this. Somehow this has triggered them to go in another direction. So it's bizarre. It's unprecedented. Folks, I'm talking to Dr. Michael Youssef, his brand new book. Just an extraordinary thought, and we need to think it. The question is, is the end near?

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Woe to those who are like. He's saying something that's just mind blowing. And a few decades later, precisely the unthinkable happens. And, you know, when you read Josephus's account, it is one of the most grim accounts of mass slaughter. It's very difficult to read, actually, the brutality of the brutality of the, Romans, toward those living in Jerusalem. So Jesus says that. And you say, so he talks about that, and then he talks about what's going to come. He doesn't say when, but many years later.

Why do you think he links those two? I'm not really clear on whether you touch on that. Sure, because the question, it was a double-edged question that the disciples asked. They said, what about this temple? And then they said, what's going to happen before the return of the son of God. They assumed he's going to now. I mean, he's just God to cross, resurrected, and then he'll come back, and that was within a matter of days.

So he began to answer both questions. He says, on that day, the day when that temple is going to be destroyed and not a stone be on top of the other, here's what's going to happen. It's going to be so terrible. There are people

with running and blood in the streets and so on and so forth. And then And he said, as for those days, and somehow if somebody reading the scripture casually didn't make the distinction. And he said, oh, but he's talking about seven. He said, yeah, on that day and in those days. Then he goes immediately give those, what I call the six birth pangs or labor pains. And he delineates them about signs in the galaxies.

And everybody's worried about this asteroid. and all of the things that we're seeing where I document, basically not just assume, but document what is really happening. If you look at the percentages, when he said those who fall away, and you look at the number of unprecedented church closures in Europe and in England, my goodness gracious. And now the battle is what you do with these churches. Some want to turn them into restaurants and museums.

But the Muslims with a load of cash wants to buy them because this is the height of their victory to take a church, turn it into a mosque. And so all of this happening all over the world, all over the globe, in Germany, which is you're familiar with more than anybody I know. And this is going on in Belgium and all over Europe and certainly here in this country, the churches that are closing and the pastors that are suffering from burnout and leaving and the percentages and all of that, you have to come to the conclusion. Somebody who said, well, because we know more about it now, we did not know about it then, that is a possibility. but also we have not read in history that these things has happened before in Christendom,

or even prior to that, the only time that I got close to that is what I call in the second jihad back in the 1400s when the Turks almost ran Vienna and occupied it for a short period of time. But then they retreated. but this is this is the church itself turning, not outside forces coming in and forcing as to convert, like in the jihad thing. This is the church people themselves, turning on themselves,

and literally pastors now preaching false gospels all over the world. Well, that's the big one, right? The idea that pastors, that Christian leaders are speaking things that are not true, and there's nothing to say except this is called deception. I mean, they have been deceived, and they are in turn deceiving their flocks. And it's why people like you and I write what we write and speak what we speak, hoping to reach those who might not be fooled or deceived. You mentioned in the book the idea of cataclysmic events.

Jesus does talk about that. I've never talked myself much about. what that means or talk to anyone. Do you go into that when we're talking about asteroids and the kinds of things that could happen but have not happened? Sure, exactly. And that's when he talks about the signs and the heavens. Of course, he's speaking to a certain group of people whose knowledge is very limited. But as we now understand, our Lord is, words can be very magnified in the context of our culture and what we know about as and signs and the galaxies and so forth and the careening and all the things are happening

or are predicted to be happening by scientists. And so you take his words and you apply them to what we're seeing today and you say, I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow. Nobody knows the hour. I'm very careful about that because so many people have predicted that day and unfortunately they were wrong. and even he, the son of God, the eternal son of God, voluntarily did not know that day. And that's where he could say, only the father knows that day.

But here's the thing. There are some people who are afraid and terrified what's going to happen. I see a CEO of a major corporation neighbor of mine. I mean, he's not a Christian at all. He just saw me the other day and he said, tell me. Why are these happening so quickly and morality is going down? And this is a man who's not a Christian at all. And he speaks for many.

But he said, it's frightening. Well, it can be if you're not a believer. But for us who know what our Lord Jesus Christ said, that we are ready for the happy event. This is the thing. It should be frightening because it's driving people to God to realize There is no other hope in the midst of the madness. Things are crazy enough.

Maybe I should look into God. Final segment coming up with Dr. Michael Yusuf, the book is, is the end near? Books, I'm talking to our friend, Dr. Michael Yusef has a new book out. Is the End Near? Michael, before we go, I just have to ask you, clearly Israel falls into this picture somehow. We have many things in scripture that are said about. Israel. We have an administration now, I hesitate to call them that, whatever they are, who want to put together again the Iran nuclear deal. We know that Iran particularly wants to wipe Israel off the map. It's astonishing to me that the Democratic Party in America has some members that are openly, not just anti-Israel, but anti-Semitic, horrible voices, really horrible. But this has infiltrated the Democratic Party,

and they seem to have been making overtures to Iran, obviously under Obama, now again, under Biden. What do you see, how do you see Israel figuring into all of this? Well, it certainly figures immensely throughout the scripture, because whether you take Armageddon to be a literal war, or is even the Antichrist going to be sitting in the abomination and sitting in the temple? Now, whether the Temple of the Holy Spirit, where he impacting believers who are the Temple of the Holy Spirit and then literally try to devastate them, whether it's a literal temple. Nonetheless, it began in that part of the world, is going to end in that part of the world. And so I think Israel figures prominently, and I am a supporter of Israel, which is really

amazing to my Jewish neighbors, whom I love dearly I'm witnessing to all the time. I am more pro-Israel than they are. They've always voted Democratic. I said, but it was a Democrat who recognized Israel first. And Truman, I think, was the first. Oh, absolutely. Harry Truman was like a Cyrus figure amazing. And then nobody's been more pro-Israel than Donald Trump. And I think this is the whole thing is to try to figure out what is going on over there. How is this going to play out? And I think even if you don't believe in God, you'd look at the situation.

You'd think, what a strange thing that 2,000 years later, Israel is reconstituted. It is somehow at the center of world attention. what is going on there, what is going to happen there. Some people think that the temple has to be rebuilt in order for these things to be fulfilled. Is there any possibility of that? I don't even know. My personal opinion is

if the temple ever get rebuilt, it's bath from Indonesia to Morocco. I mean, that is just the San Crusan, a Muslim land or monument and they claimed it and that's just going to be I mean the end that's going to be the end. I'm saying I can't even

imagine the scenario in which the temple would be built unless I think I had a friend on the show talking about some man of peace who either would be the Antichrist or who would broker a deal so that this might happen and then we would know that we're right

I can see that. I can see that. But also for all my Israeli friends, I always remind them to look at the footage of Moshe Dian, who claimed to be an atheist after the Six-Day War, himself going to the Whaling War once they liberated it. And even he became, I don't know how much of a believer, but secular Jewish people saw the victory in the six-day war. I lived in it.

I was part in it, part of it, and so as a hand of God. We are at an end with our time, but thank you, Dr. Youssef, folks. The book is, is the end near? Can't wait to see it.