The Eric Metaxas Show - Mickey Robinson (continued)

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

Miracle Monday continues with Mickey Robinson in the studio talking about his amazing life story, which includes perilous adventures, a horrific disaster, and a visit to heaven that put everything into the proper perspective.

Welcome to the Eric Metaxus show with your host, Eric Metaxus. Folks, I'm talking to Mickey Robinson. The book is Falling Into Heaven. And Mickey, you've got a new book called Supernatural Courage, activating spiritual bravery to win today's battle. I want to talk about that, but first I want to keep going on falling into heaven and this story. So you said that a doctor said to you that, your eye is dead.

You're never going to see in your right eye again. I mean, when a doctor says that they're not trying to be negative, they're just trying to tell you the truth. What was healed? About the third month after the accident. Yeah. And the eye was burned.

The eyelids were burned off. My eye was all retracted like this. You know, I couldn't see. So the cornea was damaged and I was blind. So all of a sudden I could start to seal a bit. And in 15 minutes I was in surgery, they took a frozen graph off a cadaver

and they cut off and they sewed it on they removed my damaged cornea and they sewed that on and they made eyelids from skin behind my ear and they sewed the whole thing to save the eye because the eye was going to burst and drain out the eye was going to burst and drain out did you have to say that that's so disgusting

I'm sorry no no it's just like obviously it's so amazing and you know people don't normally talk about this stuff And they were worried about infection traveling an optic nerve and getting the other eye. So it was to save the eye. So the doctors give you the cornea of a cadaver. Right. You can't see out of that because it looked like one big cataract, blueish little veins growing in it.

And so for five years, five and a half years, I was blind in that eye. Now it worked. They made the eyelids and they still refused to open all of it up there. They could. But later on when I'm having reconstructive surgery, you know, so first it was just survival. then it was a little bit more survival, and then it was reconstructive surgery. And then, you know, so I had operations that was still having one.

I met my wife, Barbara. And but I wasn't sick anymore. And I was healed and doing some stuff, you know. So but I kept seeing the eye out, they would check me. This was now at a teaching hospital, Case Western Reserve. And one of the pioneers of transplant surgery was there. I said, Dr. Thomas, if you do a trans, I'll be able to see. And he goes, no, like I would be cheating someone.

I have an opportunity to see if I used live tissue. They use live tissue to try and get me to see again. So he said, finally you talked me to this, Barb and I had our little farm. Wait, what kind of a transplant? What are you talking about? Cornea transplant. Okay, cornea transplant. So you've got a dead man's cornea right now.

You can't see out of it. And he doesn't want it back. He doesn't care. But you're telling me that now there's a possibility of getting. He said it wouldn't work, but he said he liked me. So he said, I talked to him into it. So they were going to do it. So it has to be less than 24 hours post-mortem.

But this is five years after. after this happened? 1974. And you said you've got to get transplant. So somebody is killed, but they've said I'm going to donate my organs to science. And you said before 24 hours after the death, before that is when they need to act. Complete the surgery. To complete the surgery.

We ran up to Cleveland, he called, and they set it up, took longer to set up to do it, sandbags. And I was awake. And they freeze. Whoa, whoa. What do you mean sandbags? What? Your head doesn't move all around your head. And a big stereoscope.

It's all done under a big stereoscope. And you're obviously. out. Awake. You're awake. Give me some Twilight Zone drugs, you know, but awake. And they're going to give you a corneal transplant. So how do you know when somebody is going to die?

How does that whole thing work? Well, you got a car accident with the head trauma. They're not going to survive and they've donated their, or they're dead, their DOA. So once you get the news that someone has died. The doctor gets the news, yeah. No, but I'm saying once the doctor gets the news, they pull you in to the surgery. They call you up and a race up there. And you do this.

Yeah. So you don't get a chance to get ready for it. you know and so it's like you would take a glass cutter and cutting this the former cadaver cornea off and then you you put that back on and when they cut that off and looked at it the eye was dead the iris was not light reactive it was wrinkled up the pupil was not light reactive the iris was wrinkled and glued together so forget the cornea your eye was dead the inside of the eye was dead but i would have this transplanted cornea would give me a brown eye again so it would look better they thought well no but that's like giving you a

last side. The point is that your eye is dead. You can't see out of it. And they're saying for the heck of it, we will give you this. Well, they're in the middle of it. They're in the middle of it. So we're going to go with it. At least it's going to look better. But it's the cornea might work, but the eye is dead. Yeah. And so seven days, put the bandage on. I laid in a bed. I told Barbara, said, tell the nurse, block all the light out of the room, lay flat on the bed and fasted, just water for seven days. He's going to leave the bandage on for seven days. And then he's going to take it off. And so after seven days, and I just said, I'm laying a bed, I'm thinking, I can see. I can see. I can see. I can see. He takes the vantage off,

go in the room, takes off. I said, oh my God, I can see. You see some shadows? What do you see? I can see? I can see two of everybody because I was like a committee and Marty Feldman. When I went that way, when I went to? And I said, oh my God, I can see. He goes like, he has no explanation. He says, it's a miracle. The doctor says it's a miracle because your eye was dead

and now I can see. I can see two of everything. And so I had to drive with a Kleenex behind my glasses for a while until it's like you look cross. I opposite. Until your brain figured out. The muscles were flaccid for fun. Oh. They were just not moving, you know, not in a focus.

And so about two weeks, I am like I am now. And then I found out it's not supposed to even last that long, this transplant, like 10 or 12 years, May of 1974. And I just want to tell you, God. God used doctors. God used therapy. God. Some of it was sovereign. My miracles.

Nobody involved but God alone. What other miracles? You mentioned something about your hand. Now your hand is obviously you've lost. lost your fingers or most of them, sort of. It was completely burned like this. You know how you've seen pictures of burn people where the muscles retract? I couldn't do anything except apply pressure.

Everything was one-handed. So they had to be size or cut off all the scar tissue just down to raw muscle. And they cut a pouch in here. Wait, wait. For people listening on radio, they cut a pouch in here. In my abdomen. They cut a pouch in your abdomen. All the epidermis and the fat tissue.

They put a skin graft from my buttocks. on here underneath it and they put it in there and sewed it right here for six weeks. They sewed your hand into your abdomen. With a flap of skin over the top of it to grow on there. And then they had a wait until blood supply would come from here. So I had probably the longest running consistent Napoleon imitation in the history of theater. I'm glad we can joke about these procedures. I mean, honestly.

So then they cut it off and they made little incisions here and make sure the blood was coming this way. It looked like a little boxing club. It was all enclosed. So then it heals up. And, you know, several, six months later, whatever, they're going to cut down in here and way down here below here where your metacarpals are and transfer tendons around and stuff. And so this was all a line later. You can see where it is. Now, this is.

It's just astonishing that doctors can do these things. It is so astonishing to me. I'm a block of marble. They're going to work on me forever. They love it. So anyway, so this is all the. these stitches all around here. So it's all wrapped up. Now the main doctor went to the Dominican Republic to do a seminar and the next guy was going to take off the bandage. So like three days later,

he's coming in. He sets up a field here. You know, he takes off the bandage and he goes, oh, no, you don't want to hear that. All of this tissue was black and necrotic. Oh. Dead tissue. Oh. It smelled like a dead animal. He goes, oh, Mr. Robinson. I'm so sorry. He said, we lost this one. He said, we're going to have to cut this off. So he's going to come the next day. remove what was a big operation. He's going to amputate your hand. Well, cut off all this dead tissue. Or half of it.

It would be unsuccessful for what was done. And there isn't much you can redo with that. So for some reason, again, I'm not that smart. I didn't read any books or anything. But I just asked a nurse to give me about six or seven pillows. And I had a light, a spotlight. And I put my arm up there. And the sun was going down over Lake Erie.

And I just began to speak to my hand. Now, where did you learn that? I don't know why I learned it. Say stuff like that. You know, that God gives us, Pastor Mike Thompson in Las Vegas, says, third heaven authority. God has given us the authority to speak in his name. And so here you are, and you're speaking to your hand.

So this is just coming from heaven, from headquarters. You get this idea. And you get inspired? I just started doing it. So I spoke to my hand, to command blood to go into my hand. Now, I have a scientific background. I should have known that my arteries and my veins have, Elmer's glue in them from coagulated blood from this dead tissue that is not going to work.

I mean, I didn't think that. I just let blood because by then I knew that blood supply works with skin grafts. And I was having all these skin grafts. And so the next day the guy comes in, the second stringer, and he sets up a sterile field. And he's going to cut the, you know, it's all green. He's got all the stabbers and everything. And he takes advantage off. And he goes, oh, my God.

And he goes up against the wall. And he almost slides down. He's scared. It's completely healed. What was black. and brown and dead and smelled like a dead animal on the side of the road was just like it is today. All I can say is he's a god of life. When he turned death backwards, it can include everything.

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What you just said, total, total, total miracle. What is the doctor? How does he comprehend? Because listen, if you're a man of science, you know necrotic flesh. That's to get better in six hours. Can never improve on any level. It is dead. Yeah, it's dead.

But you're telling me... It was just pink like a baby's butt. What did he say? First, he was scared. And when those nurses saw me, when my legs came back, they were scared. And they were scared, not in an afraid way. Like, it was awe. You know, it's like.

And when was that? Was that after this? No, the legs were May 15th. This was sometime October, September of 69. So the legs were May of 69. Like in a couple of months, I jumped out of an airplane again after that. 115 pounds. Are you kidding?

I did. You're trouble, pal. No, and you know what? And it was great. And the greatest skydivers in the world were there. And they thought it was great. But it didn't have the same. I mean, it was great because these people stuck with me.

But God, it's something else for me doing. And I still like that. stuff. Now do we need we need to leap ahead to that or are we done with the, that's okay. Did you have any other spiritual experiences while? I had them all the time. Well, would you like to share with the group? Again, just, we're here. We're all ears. When I say, you know, experiencing the voice of God is, you know, and it's not like, it's, it's different, different ways, different kinds. Sometimes it's, it's a still small voice. Sometimes it's, it's, you know and you're knower. Like it's, it's like you have a knowledge that's way beyond you in dimensions. And so I was hearing.

But then they have regular life most of the time, you know, dealing with stuff. I mean, I'm in the hospital. I'm going to, my purpose was to be healed and to learn the ways of God. That's what I know now. Because I get out and, you know, I've lost everything, but I've gained everything. I lost everything at the crash site. I lost the girl I was going to marry.

I lost my talent, my ability, my looks that got me in and out of places. But that and Mickey Robinson was gone. and basically I was born again as everybody really is and I just loved everything but you know I came out in a world at the same time you know this was 1969 I go Woodstocks and music

and searchers and all that and I loved everybody and some of what I was exposed to was the Lord had to remove from my life you know it wasn't about culture wasn't about music it wasn't about free love it wasn't about peace peace is a person and I had peace it wasn't through music and it wasn't through

There were searchers and seekers. And some of those people found out that peace isn't a politics. It's not through getting high. It's not through meditation. It's through the person of Jesus Christ. There's a temporary peace. There's a good piece. You can go to a sporting event and feel happy and all that stuff.

It's limited to it. And that's not bad. Right. But it's not what every one of us wants and needs. And this was dynamic spiritual encounters. So while you're convalescing during this period, you were having spiritual encounters with God. Yeah. I mean, can you tell us about any of them?

Let me think of one that. Did you ever hear the audible voice of God? Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. And I heard on a couple times the voice that's like, it's like the voice of many waters. The way I could drive it, it's like it's 360 all around, it's like a vibration that's like you're in an echo chamber in the Grand Canyon. and you not hear it, you feel it.

It's underneath you around you. And it's, you've heard that. And this is while you're in the hospital? No, this was once in Toronto, Canada, in 1970, when I saw the Lord Jesus, face-to-face. You saw Jesus in 1970. Can you, you know, this is not boring stuff, Mickey. So forgive me for making you talk about it.

This doesn't make me a better person. All right. He has to say that. It doesn't make me special. Listen. No, no. It's good for you to say that. There were things in my life that I was cooperating. The Lord, weren't good for me.

It's not like it's the Chinese restaurant. You can have Colom A and Colombe. There's stuff that's profitable for you and unprofitable. And this person turned around and looked at me. Wait, wait, wait, where were you? Toronto, Canada. Okay. Leaving at 4 o'clock in a morning from a coffee shop.

You're in a coffee shop. Why are you in a coffee shop at 4 a.m? See, my life was being operated on and then getting back. and going back for another operation. In the meantime, I had some friends. And some friends of mine were in Toronto, Canada. We drove up there from Ohio, and we're going to them at their little party and stuff like that.

And I'm going through the college section at 4 in the morning, coming up from a coffee shop, and these snowflakes as big as a silver dollar were falling down. Are you alone? No, walking with another guy. You're walking with another guy. At 4 a.m., it's snowing. Okay. And it turns around, and it's Jesus.

So wait, wait, wait. You're walking with your friend. You left the coffee shop, and you said, see somebody in front of you. Yeah, but I didn't notice it until about two or three feet away. Okay, they turn around and you're looking at Jesus. So this was not in your mind, this was not a vision, this was while you're walking on the street. Maybe theologians are you, a theophony, a physical manifestation of the Lord. Your friend didn't see this. No. No, but everything changed. And I couldn't talk for two days. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you couldn't talk for two days.

spiritual shock. I wish Alvin could get some of that. Yeah. That was a joke. Aha. No, seriously, you are walking with your friend. So just describe this. I just want to get this journalistically.

There were things going on in my life that were not. And the Lord had a sad look on his face. Not sad because I was missing out on what was best. So he was disappointed. He wanted to let you know something needs to change. Again, these are words that I'm fumbling with. Yeah. I don't think he's, he just knew.

This wasn't the best use of my time. I needed to get on focus with it, okay? And so I just cut that short. So I couldn't talk for two days, and I began to really seek the Lord. But I'm still, I mean, you tell me this is 4 a.m. Jesus turns around. So this lasts a few seconds. Mm-hmm.

You see him. Yeah. What happens at that moment? What does your friend do? Does your friend know that something just happened to you? This person was not a believer. Matter of fact, it was worse than not a believer. And I think he was almost mocking what was going on with me.

Everything became very other dimensional. See, the world we live in is a broken, fallen world. And some people are just regular people in a broken fallen world. Some people are being used of the dark side to do things. So this friend of yours you think was being used by the dark side to mock you. Well, that's what it, I could hear that. You know, you always hear what's really going on in discernment, in discernment. And just to make a little jump speed because you want to talk about this.

And there's a couple other things, spiritual experiences. That was wintertime in 1970. The end of April in 1970, I was still skydiving a little bit. People stuck with me. And the Canadian parachute team was coming down training at our club for World Championships. How much do you weigh at this point? I'm pretty regular. I mean, maybe 140 some pounds.

Okay, but your hand is messed up. Yeah, but I wasn't jumping regular. I was jumping a little bit. You can't see yet. No. Okay, so you're blind in one eye. your hand is messed up you got burns i still like this and i these people were friends of mine and you want to skydive anyway yeah so it's a little bit okay yeah and i'm jumping with the best guys in the

world and we're we're training with the canadian parachute team and a wait wait you want to skydive a little bit what does that mean like you fall halfway it's funny and then they come and get you what does that a butterfly now a little bit yeah no i mean i couldn't train and jump regularly like it because i'm still okay in and out of the hospital but you still want to do a little bit jumping with the best in the world and the best skydivers in the world. And these guys are, these guys are, it's not like it is now where everybody's a skydiver. It's not like that. You know, you got to be very committed. And hardly anybody has ever become an elite skydiver like my group was. So anyway, so there was something going on. And the team was down there. And his girl was there, a girlfriend of one of the

Canadian team members. And she was just getting back into skydiving. I literally used my gear on a Saturday. On Sunday, we go up to jump. And there was two people from the Canadian team on. I was going to go out last. They were going to go out at 6,600 feet, and she was going to go out at 4,000 feet. And she goes out, and the pilot flies around around. They left the two other ones out at 6,600. I go out later, 7,500, and it's a 30-second delay.

I come and land. I go to land in the target area. And there's a girl sitting there, and I turn off. And I go, what happened? I said, did she get hurt? He said, E.D. shoot did not open. So this girl who'd used my parachute the day before, this German girl from Canada,

had gone all the way into the ground. and 4,000 feet I take off my parachute I run in the woods maybe at the last second her reserve came out and she's in a tree or something I get back there and I look

and she's laying face down it's like what was there was never alive before it was so gone and we turned her over and picked her up and she had her hand on the main rip court

she had a poor history she had what's called a total malfunction two years before and she quit jumping where a parachute doesn't open and you open your reserve she did that properly

for some reason she might have a hard pull and she got in what's called a flat spin and went all the way into the ground pulling a rip cord on a parachute that worked and a reserve worked and we picked her up and put her on it and took her out of there and I went home

and I just heard the voice of the Lord say she just wanted to belong she could not have enjoyed skydiving but she wanted to be part of a group of people that were the skydivers and you heard God say that to you she just wanted to belong I kept seeing over and I was devastated

and then four days later I used to go to Kent State University because of the music. It was a college campus and they had great music. And this is long before the massacre. This was four days after this event. This was the day of the massacre. May 4th, 1970. And it's on the news.

I was blown away. And the Holy Spirit spoke to me. I kept hearing. I kept singing it over and over. I had to go give a deposition for this death to that county. for the woman who fell eating. And I couldn't go there. The whole thing was marked off by the security.

Because of the shooting. Right. All right, hang on. We're going to have to go to a break. Folks, I'm talking to Mickey Robinson. If you're not fascinated, you're not listening. Falling into Heaven is the book. We'll be right back.

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to me over this girl just wanted to belong and the Lord says, it's really important what you're committed to. One of the ones, there was four people killed and maybe 12 people shot and wounded, some of them paralyzed, you know. One of them was a woman. She wasn't part of the protest that day, but she was one that put the Daisy in a rifle barrel and cover him up time magazine. She was walking with her boyfriend a thousand yards away and that bullet found her way, hit her right in the chest and she was dead. And then you, of course, the famous picture you came to finding him or the man, the young boy, shot in a head and a river of blood coming out. I don't understand. The Lord's talking to you after Kent State shooting. There was a protest at Kent State

because of the bombing of Cambodia. Right. And the fire bombing and all that. It started out one way. Now, I went to a protest before that was very peaceful, 150,000 people in September. Famous band played, speakers and it was good. And I was into nonviolence, you know, part of this. But I went there during that time, I said, I'm not into this. There was a nastiness about it. The factions were nasty. It had turned dark. Kind of like today.

Kind of like it is today. Yeah, like I said, it's this division and this anger. And right or wrong, I mean, there was a darkness. And so when this thing happened at Kent State, I was devastated. And the Holy Spirit says it's really important what you're committed to. And it's not about, you can have a good opinion about being anti-war or a certain thing like that. But there was something that happened.

A Paul fell over our nation. Yeah. A Paul fell over our nation. And, you know, again, I wanted to get back to normal. A friend of mine, a really good friend of mine. Actually, that next, in December there was a graduation at Kent State, another one. And the speaker was an author, James Mitchener. And my friend who was a straight guy, he walked in the front,

and he stood in front of the speaker and the guy says, what do you want? He goes, I'd like to say something. And he said, because they were trying to sweep the investigation under the rug. Which investigation? The Kent State shooting. And he started talking. He says, I've never been part of any kind of organization.

He had his team wrestling team jacket on all that. And in a minute, two men in suits came and got him, took him away, never wrote him his rights, took him to jail for 10 days for Christmas, and it ruined his life. That experience ruined his life. He was life. Where's he today? Well, he lived to be 70 years old.

He died. I don't know what he died. I lost to record. He was a good friend, and he was a chance. He never went to a national championship that he didn't win. But this devastated him because he had been a student there. He thought there was something wrong. And when he went to address this abuse, which was abusive, I mean, why do you send National Guard's on live ammunition on load on kids on a crowded kids?

I mean, you've probably seen this. They can't state stuff. Yeah. You know, and it was devastating. A Paul fell over our nation. Distrust of all leaders, much of what we're having today. I was going to say that's much of what we're having today. Yeah, unfortunately.

So God jerked me around in a good way and put me on a seeking path. I just read everything I could read. I read every kind of religion. And nothing made any sense. So you didn't already know that Jesus is the answer or you did. I did. But I was curious. Everything in our culture was entertaining.

All kinds of stuff. Mysticism, music, psychocibernetics, you name it. All this stuff. No, I mean, I remember, you know. The purest thing for me was the person of Jesus Christ. And I'm not, you know, it's the same time this happened. We could talk about the division in our nation. The only thing I describe now is 1968.

Today's, today's claim. There's no doubt that you can't compare to anything else. Today's climate, except the Civil War years maybe. Yeah. But the hyper-partisanship, the anger, the fears, all this confusion and Jesus kept showing up. Jesus kept showing up in my life in the scriptures, in music, and all kinds of things he kept showing up in my life.

Isn't it interesting that there was revival during that time? All that darkness, the Jesus movement, there was an evangelical revival going on, there was a charismatic movement going on, but the Jesus movement was raw people and they put all of it in, all of their beliefs, everything in there, and it was Jesus every day. And they actually did, some transformation took place from that.

The music changed in churches, the community, the aspect of that we share everything. You know, ego, I mean, there was a natural born humility in some of this stuff, and signs and wonders were happening. People just supernatural stuff was a regular thing. But it was always about the person of Jesus, the power of the Holy Spirit, and loving one another, loving God and one another, which seems to me the purest form of the words of Jesus today. and of the wherever he are in the new testimony.

I mean, I have to ask you since you live through that, where do you think we are in the nation today? Do you think revival will come? Do you think we'll get out of this death spiral? Well, I'm just not a positive thinker, which I am in an encourager, all that. I know that the church, we've been praying prior to this last year's events.

There's been more prayer for the nation, more people actually praying with a fervency. Yeah. I think, quote, this is just my opinion. I'm not a poll taker with the virus. maybe the church has I think the church has underperformed you know in Acts chapter 4

after the apostles were taken back into custody they says don't preach anymore about Jesus you can stay inside but don't talk publicly about him and the resurrection he says we can't help but speak what we've seen on here then they go back to the church and they say Lord grant us boldness they didn't negotiate they says we want to be

more bold the second corporate outpouring the Holy Spirit happens they give their extra money or land and all that because they're going to pay for it and the gospel spreads. Out of this darkness, I believe, and I'm going to listen to any believer that's listening right now, get in a cluster of people and pray, love one another,

believe God, and ask God for more power. It's not about survival. This is about the transformation of lives in our nation and in the world. Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. We're going to keep talking to Mickey Robinson. The book is Falling Into Heaven, and the new book, Supernatural Courage, will be right back. Folks, welcome back talking to Mickey Robinson falling into heaven, a skydivers gripping account of heaven,

healings and miracles. And we're moving way past this, Mickey, to kind of where we are in the nation. Now, when you talk about 1968, there's just no question that the parallels to where we are today are dramatic. And most people, I was too young to really know what was happening. But I did have some sense. I mean, I remember some of it. But your sense of where the church is today. I mean, you were saying that the church has been too timid or to, which I agree most of it. But there are pastors in California.

I've spoken in Jack Hibbs' church, and there are a number of really bold leaders who have been outspoken, and things are happening. And God is blessing their congregations dramatically because they have stood up to the government authorities and said, we don't care. We're going to preach the gospel if you don't like it. find us, put us in jail, we're going to do what we think God wants us to do. You know, it's interesting because, you know, I shared what the apostle said, and then the church responds by saying, grant us boldness, and then you get an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

John the Baptist is in prison about to be beheaded. He sends two of his disciples, asked you, he has a moment of being shook. He says, I ask him if he's the promised coming one, or should we look for another? He doesn't say, don't you remember all the prophecies, don't you remember what your father prophesied of you? Don't you remember seeing great outpouring when you baptized me? He says, tell him what you see in here. The blind sea, the lame walk, the dead are raised, the lepers are cleansed, blessed is them that don't stumble over this reality.

Mickey's paraphrase, you know. You know, John the Baptist, in other words, he wanted to know. So tell him what you see. So I was blind and now I see. I was lame and now I walk. I didn't have leprosy, but I had pretty bad skin problems. I was so brokenhearted. I didn't know if I ever be able to.

love again. He put his love in me and caused me to be in love with people and to see the love work. All those things. But all over our country right now, people, we have people that are angry. We have people that are afraid. We have people that don't trust and are confused. The church needs to be bold. We need to pray, grant us more boldness. There are people. There's been more prayer that I know of, more zealous and conscious prayer in the last several years. The entire time I've been walking with the Lord, full-time quote in ministry. You know, the Lord drafted me. I was only partially good at anything I ever did,

whether it was skydiving or business or whatever. Sports, I've been doing this. This is what I've called to do. And it's an honor and a privilege, but it's still in my weakness. If there's anything about my story, number one, Jesus is alive. That's the number one thing. I'm alive. If you want any evidence, if Jesus is alive, I'm alive.

That's it. I am alive. And I've been alive. I've been experiencing God. I've had more trials than Judge Judy. So, you live here. That was funny. Come on. That's funny. If you live here long enough, you're going to bump into stuff. I just don't want to get jaded. And this last year, these last couple of years, I could have had some close calls with being jaded. Yeah. Okay? I could get mad about this. But I got to keep my foot. That doesn't mean I'm going to be cavalier about, well, I'm just a Christian. and it's like, I'm an American citizen. I vote. I have an opinion.

I want to influence people, but it's about issues of moral character and of destiny. Barbara and I are probably going to survive this. I'm wondering about my grandchildren. What kind of a world we're going to. So the church, I believe there's low-hanging fruit, hurting people, people that maybe are anonymous people that don't know. I mean, I just get responses from people.

If they just hear the real thing, I pray for people almost everywhere I go. I don't want to abuse people, but I don't want to miss opportunity. And sometimes it's one person. Sometimes it's one person. You know, when I hear you talk about these miracles, what fascinates me is that there are parts of the church that don't really believe in miracles for today or they get uncomfortable because they've seen some things that made them uncomfortable. And I think there's just nothing more heavenly, I use that word advisedly, than seeing. seeing miracles. When you see any kind of miracle and you know God is alive now, I really believe there's a hunger, that people are just hungry for the transcendent. And for a lot of people,

Christianity is just like a bunch of whatever it is. It's rules or behavior or something. They want more, you know. They want something. Let me touch this thing that everybody should be able to relate to. How does a person who comes back from dead and I'm still so trashed, I have no hope, there's no hope at all. I'm so full of love. I'm so full of peace. Find a psychiatrist or psychologist. This isn't drugs, because I stayed like this. Find me a psychiatrist or a psychiatrist. This wasn't, you know, some kind of emotional, you know, blossoming. This was the love of God. How does, how do you explain that? Well, I mean, no hope. Everything I had counted on is gone.

I'm probably, in one sense, the healthiest I ever was. There's nothing supporting me. There's nothing I can rely on. There's nothing. Oh, I'm going to be able to do this. I'm overwhelmed with love. How? If that's not miraculous, if people can't say, well, I want that.

That actually happened. And here I am. I mean, you can talk to the people that everybody that knew me knew I was different. And then they watched me survive. And then they watch the healings happen. You know, miracle is a sovereign, unexplainable. like usually an instant thing. Healing can be empowered.

Sometimes it's long term. Like if it wasn't for me in therapy, I'd still be in a wheelchair. But I had to cooperate with the process. So I would encourage people, contend for your healing. Contend for your emotional. We got people,

listen, all this stuff, I'm riding down here, I don't know, I see all this signs about mental health. People are upset. People are disturbing. You know what? Jesus binds up the brokenhearted.

He gives peace. Why limit God to when you die, you go to heaven? We need the heavenly and the kingdom power right here. We need it. We all know that's why the crowds came for Jesus. And that's why the regular people were comfortable with him because he loved him. He loved the hell out of him.

That's exactly right. I actually don't think I've ever heard that. That's like so basic. He loved the hell out of him. You know, what we're talking about is so central to everything. it's the power of God. And I do think that a lot of churches, they miss the power of God to say,

Lord, I want to see your power. I want to see you manifest yourself. I don't just want it to be mental or intellectual or just Bible study. I want to experience God. We're going to go to a break. If I can, I'd like to continue talking to you. I'm here.

My friend, Mickey Robinson. Is there a place people can find you online? Mickey Robinson.com. There's stuff. Mickey, within you. M-I-C-E-Y-Robinson.com. And Don Piper wrote a forward to your book, Falling Into Heaven. How many years has this book been out?

It's about five years. That's it? What took you so long? No, I did one a while ago, and this is almost, they asked me to do this. This one has more stuff in it. Yes, more stuff. Hang on. All right, we'll be back.

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And folks, I've been looking into this. This is Maoist Soviet-style intimidation. It is wrong on every level. And if you think you're going to silence me, let me tell you something. If you knew who my parents were. Yeah. No, I don't think it's going to happen. Good luck.

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were my father. You can tell it's kind of a dark story, but it ends very, very wonderfully. It's an inspirational film about, well, I mean, I guess you have to be honest. If you didn't have a father, Father's Day might really be a hurtful day, might be a difficult day for you.

And so this film deals with three men from the urban community, two Hispanics, one black, and I got to tell you the story of their lives of not having a father and what happened to them. And this is a fact, 85% of youths in prison. 85% of youths in prison come from homes without a father.

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