The Eric Metaxas Show - Mike Lindell & Kirk Olsen (continued)

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

 Mike Lindell is joined by lawyer Kurt Olsen and continues to outline the path towards presenting the overwhelming evidence of vote-tampering and election fraud to the Supreme Court.

to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Oh, my goodness. Albin, I know, I know. They tell me it's Tuesday. It is all day. All right. Folks, I just want to warn you. And I'm, as usual, only being semi-facious.

In both hours today, I'm going to be speaking with our friend Mike Lindell. The reason I say I want to warn you is that it becomes increasingly, clear as you listen to the conversation. The problem with Mike Lindell, which I've said to his face on the air, he is so in the weeds on trying to figure out what happened with this election. And I want to say again publicly, we will never, ever cease to talk about what we think is important on this program. And when somebody says, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Oh, you need to move on. I want to say that person, please jump in a lake quickly because I have no time for people who are unwilling to be open-minded about things that in this case couldn't really be more important.

So what I will promise you is that the more you look into what Mike is saying and doing, the more you'll realize there's not just something there, but there's something very important there. at the end of the conversation with him, we're going to bring in one of his lawyers, Kurt Olson, whom I've had the privilege of meeting. And you have too, Albin. We all had dinner with Jenna Ellis back in the summer. But what Mike has been doing, the big headline for me

is that no one's covering it. So you would assume, unless you maybe listen to Steve Bannon or something, you would assume that there's nothing going on. I'm here to tell you, I promise you, you, there's big stuff going on, and it is going to be played out in the months ahead. We're on the verge of a few triggers because a lot of people think, well, nothing's happening. I haven't heard anything. You haven't heard everything because everybody's evidently afraid to talk about this stuff.

They're afraid, oh, I'm going to get sued. Folks, this is your country. If you are so people have died. Let me just underscore this. People have died for this country. people have died for liberty. If you're not the kind of person to whom that matters, you don't deserve to live in a country like America.

People have died for liberty. People have died trying to uncover the truth. This should not be a big deal. This is basic, that if you live with your head up, with some courage in life, you're going to come to moments where you're going to have to figure out, what do I really believe?

And I think that Mike has been an absolute hero. I admired him long before we got into this crazy stuff, but for both hours today, we're going to talk to him about that. And if you're hearing this opening for a second time, there is something new and fresh coming with Mike Lindell and with the lawyer, and they're explaining even more about this whole... Well, I don't think we bring the lawyer on into hour two. Yeah, until hour two.

But so it's two hours today of me talking with Mike about this stuff. And I just want to tell you, If there's anything you can do to get the word out, there's going to be some action points going to frankspeech.com, contacting your state attorneys general. Ladies and gentlemen, this is as far from over as it gets. It hasn't even begun. And if you don't believe me, that's your problem. Yeah. Okay.

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But you, Albin, and Anne, your wife, and Suzanne my wife, we watch things on TV or whether it's streaming or whatever. And I want to talk about it now and again, because sometimes you discover something or you see something that you hadn't seen in a long time. And I have to say, Woody Allen is somebody who's stuff I have admired for years, except in recent years, his films have gone downhill pretty dramatically. Maybe not every single one of them.

But they've gotten kind of dark, and then there's his personal life, and there's all this different stuff. But last night, Suzanne and I watched Radio Days. Now, Radio Days came out in 1987. Broadway Danny Rose came out, I think, in 1984. I think crimes and misdemeanors came out in 80s. or 88. He has a series of films that came out in the 70s and the 80s that are not less than brilliant.

And radio days was so heartwarming. I got choked up half the time I was watching it. Is that the one where he's living underneath the roller coaster at the Coney Island? No. That is another one. And I always forget which one that is. Maybe that's part of Annie Hall or part of, I can't remember where he's cutting back to his childhood. But radio days is his homage, his reminiscence of the early days, of when he was a little kid.

So we're talking about the 30s and the 40s and growing up listening to the radio. But it was so heartwarming that part of what broke my heart about it was to think, when you think of the difficulties that he's had in his life and all of that stuff. watch a film like this, it is so heartwarming, it is just amazing. And it's, so it's radio days. It came out 86, 87. Crime's and Misdemeanors is a little darker, but it's another genius film that he came out with. I think it was the following year. And in 84, maybe my favorite Woody Allen film, Stardust Memories is up there, too. But Broadway, Danny Rose, it's one of the most heartwarming film. And when I say heartwarming, that's what gets me.

It's funny, but it's so beautiful. It's so sweet. Because a lot of people forget. They think of, I don't know what they think of when they think of Woody Allen. But part of what makes it bittersweet for me is when you see somebody's life. And I think the same thing, Martin Scorsese did a film a few years ago. And it was like a family film. And it was so beautiful.

And I got choked up because I thought some of the dark stuff that he's made, he's capable of making a beautiful film like this. So I say that about Radio Days, Broadway, Danny Rose, some really, really beautiful films, Purple Rosa Cairo, just thought I would mention that. So when we come back, we're talking to Mike Lindell, and at the end of the hour, we're going to let you know about CSI.

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the legislature of Arizona could pull down the electors, but there's one Republican who refuses to budge. Can you give his name? Is there a reason not to give his name? No, I could give his name, but I don't know it. Everybody in Wisconsin, this guy has been an obstructionist. He's been the one that has slowed down all the audits that took eight months or whatever in Arizona. You guys, this guy, and I say, when you have something like that, either the guy is compromised or he's, because he's, there's no logical reason, compromise, blackmail, or threatened. That's what I say. It can only be three. Okay. So my advice is, my advice is for the people of Arizona, maybe go to him, plead with him to save our country,

but these other ones, go to your Democrats. They're all people, Eric, this is a people thing. This isn't a... Okay. So you got Arizona. That's number one. You just mentioned Wisconsin. It sounds like Wisconsin is in a good place. Something is happening there. There has to be a third state, no? There is. This is beautiful, everybody. And it's right here in the Supreme Court case, too. The things we're talking about right now are in this complaint you can read on frankspiece.com. Here's the beauty of Pennsylvania. You ready for this? Yeah. In Pennsylvania, it's a law, you can't have more votes than you have voters.

What? What? You've got to be kidding me. Somebody made a law. You can't have more votes than voters. Or if you do, Eric, under Wisconsin-Ur Pennsylvania law, you can't turn in your electors and say they're good until it gets investigated. What a concept, huh?

But this has been going on for a year now. Where has this been? Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania turned in their electors anyway. It's illegal. They did it illegal. And now get this. One of the justice of this, there's something the lawyer always talks about that one.

That one's a very easy one. It's just sitting out there. It's like, don't worry, the rest of the country all got, you know, it won't matter that this was done illegal. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, you know, there's everywhere. So this one, Pennsylvania won't matter. That one is so simple.

It's something everybody can enjoy. You can have more votes. Okay, Mike, I don't think there's anybody listening who would disagree with you. The question is, where is it right now? In other words, it sounds so crazy. Who wouldn't agree with that? But the question is, what about it? What do we do about it?

Okay. Here's what you do about it. Here's your call to action. All those three things are in this Supreme Court case. Okay, this Supreme Court's complaint, it's ready to be signed by the Attorney's General. We need all of you out there to put pressure on them. Go to Frankspeech.com. Sign.

There's an email there. You can email your Attorney General. Eric, I'm going to be flying around for the next two weeks again, circling back to all our Attorney Generals in private meetings going, hey, are you going to sign with the rest of them? They're meeting themselves. I will want to say this. one attorney general said no and he's in Alabama. So if you live in Alabama, you had an Alabama, you have polling books there.

It was, it was, you guys had 100,000 more votes that were flipped. Alabama had, it's chaos. And I met with those guys a bunch of times. They said, nope, we're not going to sign it. So if you're in Alabama, I would, you know, we don't need them. You only need one, Eric, by the way. You only need one, one. You only need one what?

I'm lost. You only need one attorney general. only one. We've got, and I want to get though like 20 and just more powerful. But what I'm saying is for the Supreme Court case, you're saying you need one attorney general to sign. And right now you don't have any that have signed. Is that what you said? They've all wanted tweaks. So this went right up to Thanksgiving. This is happening right now. Some of them, they called me last Sunday and said, Mike, can we have till after Thanksgiving? I mean, we're working on the thing that had to go to the Supreme Court about our kids

happened to take shots. I mean, this is very important, too. We kind of got two things very important. They're working very hard out there, these attorney general. But it's you, but it's been you and your lawyers and your money who've been leading the charge on this. Let's just be honest. This is not Donald Trump.

This is not, this is you. This is you doing this. Okay. And you've been alone and it's been hard to get the word out. And it's why I'm thrilled that you're talking to me in my audience right now. So where things stand right now, okay? It is, it's Tuesday the 30th of November. It sounds to me like you're on the verge of getting many of these attorneys general around the country to sign this. Absolutely. At what point do you go? What at what point do you say we have enough? We're going to go. Oh, no, if after talking to them all, they kind of all want to do it together. So you're not going to get just one. I mean, when they sign, whoever all signs that date ends, just like the last time,

they can sign after the fact too. They all hopped on board. Last time I believe there was, I want to say around 20, some 22. So as soon as I'm just going to go around, I want all to be in unison. But the one, but you're talking about the case that's the Supreme Court rejects. They would not look at it, seven to two. That had like 20 attorneys general signed on to that case.

That's correct. That's correct. Once again, what's the difference with this case? Why do you believe the... This one has standing and this one has evidence that's non-disputable that we've, some of the stuff

I just told you like Pennsylvania that turned in their electors and had more voters or votes than voters. So this is in here. If you look through this 80-some pages, you can go on Franks Beach. You can go to all the exhibits, too. It's hundreds of pages, but it's very interesting for the public to share it with everybody you know.

I want to say one more thing, Eric, that's very important. That's a call to action. Trust me, everybody. This will get out, but I need your help. I want to get every attorney general. It's a lot more, it looks a lot better the Supreme Court when every state is on there. You follow me? I want them all.

And Eric, here's one thing. I got to say too. We've set up the cause of Americans on Franks Beach. You guys, we had this 96-hour thanks athon, and we showed the replacement of the machines, this new system that would go in to have so we could have the most secure elections ever like they lied to us. Guess what? Coming out of this, this is breaking news on your show, Eric. The state or counties have called it. There's 3,000 some counties in the United States. We've had, I think, so far this morning six that are committed to get rid of their machines called our cyber team our guys they're getting rid of it when and one of them i believe one of will manifest to a whole state

being without machines that'll be a prototype after the first of the year i've got a big thing coming on the first of the year that's going to give us the tool to go to every single county in the country and get the machines removed because we can't have any machines or anything in the next selection. Mike, this is so huge. And I know, you know, you and I have been talking about this since, my gosh, I mean, since you brought it up to me, but when you told me to go watch HBO's kill chain, which is basically a Democratic-led documentary made by HBO on the subject of whether the machines are hackable, when I watched that, I thought to myself, this is when you realize you're living in a crazy world. Because here you have HBO with a top of the time. And you're

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That's 866-473-6204. Folks, I'm talking to Mike Lindell. Mike says he's not a lawyer. You know what? I'm not a lawyer either, but we found a lawyer. Kurt Olson, who has been doing amazing work with Mike. I didn't think we'd get him on the program, but Mike, you said we could get him on speakerphone. And maybe actually we can ask Kurt to answer the question that I was asking before we went to the break.

Kurt, welcome. Thank you. Glad to be here. we were we were wondering well a lot of us of course not only are we not lawyers but we've not been following this closely it's complicated the major news media simply doesn't cover it so a lot of us are in the dark so my question to mike i think was what is the difference now in other was what do you believe you have now when you want to bring this to the Supreme Court that would make them say, yes, there is standing. Mike referred to the fact that because of the 50-50 split

in the United States Senate, with Kamala Harris being the tiebreaker, if the election, if the national election was either fraudulent or somehow was not what it was supposed to be, suddenly, because of her being the tiebreaker, it affects every state. So is that one of the main reasons that you're making or one of the main, the main argument that you're making or that you're hoping to make before the Supreme Court to say, you must look at this because the election outcome, in fact, affects the second part of our three-part government. It affects the Senate. It affects the Senate. It affects the legislature. Is that, am I tracking with that? So that is one of two principal bases that we argue standing exists on from one state to sue

the other defendant states in this action. And so you're exactly right. We have a very unique situation where the Senate is split evenly, 50-50, and the vice president casts the tie-breaking vote. if the vice president was not legitimately elected, and for purposes of standing, all well-plaid allegations in the complaint are accepted as true. So you accept as true that the vice president was not legitimately elected, and when you analyze standing, is there redress for that? And yes, because we have this unique situation of 50-50,

evenly split Senate with accepting as true, the vice president was not legitimately elected, but casting the tie-deciding vote, the tie-breaker, then that is an injury that all states suffer. Okay, so that's one reason that you and Mike believe that the Supreme Court would be forced to look at this, because without any question, under the new circumstances of a 50-50 split sense,

with the ostensible vice president representing the tiebreaker, this affects the whole nation. So that's number one reason you believe the Supreme Court must look at it. And Eric, by the way, it's not him and me. It's other lawyers, too. This has been a well thought of case. No, no, no. I'm just using your names because you're the only ones that I know. But obviously, I don't think that you pull this out of your hat.

This is something you've been working on for many months. So what is the second reason? reason that you, Kurt Olson, believe that this, it would be difficult for the Supreme Court to dismiss this as not having standing, the people putting forward this case? So the other independent basis is it goes back to what are the founding of our constitutional republic. And the Constitution is a compact amongst the peoples of each state. who all came together and agreed to play by the same set of rules. And so when one state vitiates or violates that principle, all states are injured.

Now, in this particular circumstance, every state under our Constitution has a right to have the president selected and the vice president under or pursuant to the 12th Amendment process. and that's a process where each state gets one vote. And that arises when the electoral count falls below 270. So we also allege that every state, because they have that right, has been injured by having that right to pursue the election of the president and vice president in accordance with the architecture of the 12th Amendment. But how is this different, just so I'm clear, how is this different from the, the case that they refused to look at, you know, whatever, eight, eight or ten months ago?

In other words, wasn't that the same idea? So that principle was not, was not argued in the prior case. Now, and so, but it is expressly stated in the current model complaint that we have drafted. And if you recall, when the Supreme Court dismissed the Texas v. Pennsylvania case for lack of standing. They did not really articulate a basis other than they said Texas lack standing. And so what we've done with this complaint is expressly allege the exact basis for it under that principle. Now again, we have an independent basis, which we just discussed, that being that the Senate is split 50-50. So we have two independent bases that are expressly pled in the complaint

and that are new. And we would see what the Senate is split in the complaint. And we would see what the Supreme Court would do. You can't force them to do anything, you know, to do anything because it's the Supreme Court. But in engineering this case, I don't know if that's a bad term, you, you have explicitly taken these two pieces and put them to the four in the argument. We're going to go a break. We're going to be right back. Folks, I'm talking to Mike Lindell and to Kurt Olson, who actually is a lawyer. And on this program, normally we wouldn't like that, but today we love it. And we'll be right back. Hey folks, I've got to tell you a secret about relief factor that the father, son,

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the Supreme Court. So you were just saying, Kurt Olson, that learning from the mistake. in the previous case, which was Texas versus Pennsylvania, that in a sense, logic would have demanded, at least I would think, that the Supreme Court would have said, yes, we will look at it. But they didn't. And when they didn't, you and others went back to the drawing board and said, how can we put together a case that's difficult for them to dismiss? So is that effectively what has been happening? You've had a different strategy based on what you learned from the Texas versus Pennsylvania case?

I wouldn't characterize the last complaint as a mistake. The basis for standing was not articulated in the manner that I just suggested in terms of the 12th Amendment bases. But in addition, the 50-50 Senate, that situation didn't arise until, January 5th when the runoff election occurred. So at the time, Texas v. Pennsylvania was filed that particular basis. Okay. As I just said, did. Well, I didn't, I don't, I didn't mean to phrase it that way.

If I did, all I meant to say was that, you know, you go in, you have seven to two. They take, I think, the cowardly way out. And what you're doing now is you're just trying to make it more difficult for them to say, we don't want to look at it. And so where do things stand exactly right now with regard to bringing this case before the Supreme Court? Where does it stand? Well, we are in discussions and working with various state AGs at different levels to see if they will, and this would be their complaint. So what we've done is we have drafted a model complaint. We've put in all the corroborating evidence, much of which is new. So this is evidence that just came out in the past three months, whether it's the

results of the audit of Maricopa County, Arizona, whether it's the findings of the Racine County Sheriff, finding that the Wisconsin Election Commission didn't just break but shattered election law, and it applied across the state of Wisconsin, whether new developments where we've now have, in looking at the full voter export file in Pennsylvania, there's a situation where we have 49,000 more votes than voters, according to the states. Okay, so in those three states, all the information, Mike was talking about this earlier, but you're reiterating what we heard Mike say, is that in these three states, there has been new information that has come out that really was not in the Texas versus

Pennsylvania case that was brought before the Supreme Court some months ago. Yeah, I mean, so that's just not. factual information. There's additional factual information, but there's also been subsequent court rulings. So, for example, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that the Wisconsin Election Commission's guidance to allow people to self-declare as indefinitely confined violated the law. Why is that important? Because under Wisconsin law indefinitely confined, which was the intention was to allow people who are disabled, cannot even, you know, if they're paralyzed, they can't right that they could submit a ballot without having to go through signature verification and

photo identification requirements, which are basic requirements that help show that the person voting is who they actually say they are. Well, the Wisconsin Election Commission obviated or abrogated those standards. And the Wisconsin Supreme Court said, no, you violated the law. That decision came out after Texas v. Pennsylvania was dismissed by the Supreme court. But what has happened is you now have about there were 50,000 voters who were declared, or were declared indefinitely confined. In 2016, you had about 250,000 or so in 2020. But there's been no analysis of any of those votes. And there's 200,000 more, give or take, that were under an unlawful process. Nobody has gone and looked at those voters and done an analysis

because those voters avoided signature and photo identification requirements, are they legal votes? So you have- Okay. Many people- And that's what needs to be done. Okay. So, and so where does that stand now? In other words, people listening to this program are thinking maybe what can I do? Is there anything we can do but wait and pray?

No, there's two things. So one, anybody who resides in a state that is not one of the defendant states, and the five defendant states are Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But any other state who we would like to have the state AGs join. We had 18 states, if you recall, join the Texas v. Pennsylvania kids. Texas was not by itself on this. They were the first to file, but as soon as that filing was done, you had this rush. So citizens in those states can encourage their attorneys general to join this lawsuit or to pick up the mantle of it and to bring it in the Supreme Court.

But even citizens within the defendant states can demand their legislators, continue their investigation, or to start an audit just as they are in Wisconsin. And for example, there's a representative in Wisconsin, Representative Rantam, who has submitted a resolution to decertify the election. and also to conduct audits and elsewhere to prevent this from happening in the future. All he needs is one Wisconsin state senator to join that resolution, and it will be put to the floor, and the Wisconsin legislature will have to go on record and answer to the people on this issue of whether the election in Wisconsin should be certified and whether audits should be done. And so that's something that citizens can do themselves. They're not just sitting around waiting. They should get active.

They should be called. Everybody should be calling their legislatures and demanding audits, demanding an investigation into what happened. And this is, and again, people can go to frankspeech.com, and there's information there that people can use. Now, Kurt, since I have you on the line here, I'm here with Mike, but you realize the headline for most Americans, because you guys are living this, you're breathing this.

Most Americans, they hear this and they think, is this stiff still going on? Is somebody still working on this? Obviously, you guys are. But when we come back, we've just got minutes left. When we come back, I want to talk about that issue, about how the mainstream media and much of the conservative media has simply refused to cover this. We're going to be right back, folks. We're talking to Mike Lindell and to Kurt Olson. this is the Eric Metaxis show.

Folks, I'm talking to Mike Lindell and to Kurt Olson. Kurt, you are obviously a lawyer. You've worked on many, many cases. Don't have time to get into that at the moment. But you have to understand that for your average American, it's so frustrating because we know. I mean, anybody who knows me, knows Mike Lindell and knows that whether you agree with him or disagree with him,

this is a man who loves his country and who's doing everything he can. And there is not a word in the media about this. And most of us in our lifetimes, if there's nothing being said in the media, the reason is because there's nothing going on. But for the first time in our lives, we are seeing this strange, you know, gaslighting is the term, where no one talks about it. If you talk about it, they come after you, they sue you.

They've sued me, obviously. Why do you think that there is still hope? In other words, my audience that's kind of thinking like, what is really happening? They can go to Frank speech, they can contact their attorneys general and bug them. But for somebody who's just tuning in right now, why would they believe that this is any different than what has happened over the last months? Why should we have hope, I guess, is my big question. Very simply. Silence in the mainstream media should not be taken as an action in the individual state. So, for example, in Wisconsin, you have the Office of the Special Counsel that is run by former Chief Justice Gableman, who's performing an investigation who just issued a preliminary report on November 10th, finding grave irregularities and illegality in the Wisconsin election. That's ongoing, and it needs to go further. But the Wisconsin, the Wisconsin, Wisconsin, election commission represented by the Wisconsin Attorney General has sued Gableman to stop his investigation. They've sued to block his subpoenas. So again, this is a constant refrain

that. What do they have to hide? So there is a lot going on. And there's a lot going on in other states with grassroots activists, whether they're in Texas, whether they're in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania. There are many, many grassroots activists and groups that are rightfully not letting the fraud in November 2020 be swept under the rug. The mainstream media is either lying or they're ignorant when they say that there are baseless allegations of election. When we say the mainstream media, a lot of friends of mine, colleagues of mine, are not saying one word about this.

I am the least political of all the Salem hosts, right? I talk politics sometimes, but it's not a political show. But I'm saying that even people that I love and trust have just moved on. And I have to say that that's, you know, it's difficult for me to understand what is really happening. Well, I want to say that. That's what those who stole this election are banking on. They're banking on people getting tired. But I can tell you that they're not because Mike has just spun up cause of America.

And that is bringing together all of these different grassroots groups who heretofore have been not, working together in an organized fashion. But we've been talking to them, and they're out there. There are people who are doing tremendous amounts of work because they want to save our country. Because if we don't fix 2021, it's going to happen again. Well, that's basically what I know is true. Mike knows it's true. Many people listening are true.

No, it's true. It's vital. It's vital that we stay on this. I just want to say, because we're closing here, I thank God for you, Mike. I thank God for you, Kurt, and for all those that are working with you, and for all those that are listening right now, who have not yet become cynical. Cynicism is evil. Folks, you need to have hope. Don't be naive, but be hopeful, work for what is right. Don't worry about what the other people think. Worry about what God thinks. And right now, there are enough Americans that still care about

the country, still care about right and wrong. And it's on the basis of that that I have hope. Mike and Kurt, privileged to know you. God bless you both. Thank you. Thank you. Everybody go to frankspeech.com. Your hope is right there. And God's got his hand and all this. Eric, it's going to be amazing. We're going to get through it. And God bless you, my friend. Amen. Okay.