The Eric Metaxas Show - Miranda Devine (Continued)

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Miranda Devine continues her conversation with Eric discussing her new book "The Big Guy: How The President And His Son Sold Out America" https://www.amazon.com/Books-Miranda-Devine/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AMiranda+Devine

Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. Did you like your gravy thick and rich and loaded with creamy mushrooms? If no one was looking, would you chug the whole gravy boat? Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. Stay tuned. Here comes Mr. Chugg-a-lug-lug himself, Eric Mataxas. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Miranda, New York Post.

Brand new book is The Big Guy. And the previous book is The Laptop from Hell. you were just making a point, Miranda, and I want to go further on that, that we're living with this scandal. And again, it's sort of offensive to, I think, most Americans, the tremendous contempt that the ruling classes have for we the people. It's like you'll take what we give you. If it is a senile, unfit president, you'll shut up and you'll go along with the narrative. That is clearly astonishing and offensive. But what amazes me is how little pushback the Republicans have given.

It's unconstitutional to have someone claiming to be president who's not really running the country. And that's been going on far longer than we discovered, you know, very publicly in the debate with Trump, how unfit Biden was. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I think there are a couple of reasons for the Republicans not really pushing it. one of them is that, you know, they would get Camilla Harris instead as the vice president. And I think until they saw her in action and saw really what a woeful candidate she is, they were fearful that being a woman and being a woman of color, that she might, and being younger, that she might actually be more electable than Biden.

I think that was wrong, actually. Even as Senile Biden would have been, I think, performed better. in the election, in part just because of the history, his mythology, especially in places like Pennsylvania, where people have loved and admired him for 50 years, and particularly Catholics. And Donald Trump got a lot of the Catholic vote back that Joe Biden had been hanging onto for some crazy reason. So that's one reason for the Republicans' reluctance to move on Joe Biden earlier when it became clear that he was not cognitively fit. In fact, it was clear before he was even nominated. At 2020, I was in Iowa and

New Hampshire in January, and he was clearly befuddled. He needed a teleprompter to do the most basic stump speech. Jill Biden was leading him around so he didn't get lost on stage. He was absolutely, came last, second last. It was a coup again by the Democrat machine that somehow, in South Carolina catapulted him above much better and younger candidates in Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar and others. So they wanted Joe Biden

because he is the blobs puppet. And these same people, the blob, I'm using to describe the deep state CIA, FBI Pentagon, State Department, DOJ, they had been cultivating Joe Biden from his earliest day in the Senate. He did whatever they wanted. And much of that was being a warmonger. And so they, he was a safe, he's their guy. So they want him. And Kamala Harris became their guy. And she signaled that

in the Democratic convention, the DNC convention when she was anointed as Biden's successor, the presidential candidate. When she started speaking, Very unusually for her, she's never spoken like this before about having a lethal military. She was all rah-rah for that, bringing in Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney. I mean, huge error. But that was really not for the American people. That was to signal her fealty to the blob. And in return, what does she get?

She gets a letter written by some number like 450 or something. they upped it from the 51, from the same national security state people, high-ranking formers, some overlap with the dirty 51, as nine or ten of them are the same. And they all say she is by far the most capable candidate to be commander-in-chief, which is really a joke. They portray Donald Trump as an existential threat to democracy into America. he's been president before, not so long ago. And he did a good job.

And people knew that. They'd lived through that. They knew that it was a lie. They didn't believe that he was an existential threat. The only threat he posed was to the blob and their power over the presidency. He is an existential threat to them. Well, that's the key. He's an existential threat to them and they know it and they'll do anything.

But if ever you needed almost a comedic evidence, to ally one of the most leftist figures that we've ever had in the U.S. Senate, Kamala Harris, with the Cheney's. I thought this is like some fevered dream of the deep state that you thought that that could never happen in reality. It really is extraordinary, that they were so desperate that they didn't shrink from that. I mean, I think the optics are as horrific. You know, if you're anyone who's ever had the slightest, doubt whether there is such a thing as a uniparty. This was just all the evidence, 10 smoking guns put in front of you just in case you're kind of wondering. When we talk about Joe Biden being a puppet, of course, and this to me always has these spiritual ramifications. It's kind of like if you sell

your soul to the devil, you're not going to get a good bargain. It's not going to be a good deal. And so Biden, having sold his soul for power, he gets the presidency. It's meaningless. It's a husk of the actual presidency. But he's given this, you know, for a lifetime of service. Here's the gold watch. You get to be president, sort of with a big asterisk, the size of the moon. And then when you've ceased to be valuable, they come to you and let you know it's over.

If you don't leave, we will get rid of you. And they obviously had the ability to do that. So Pelosi and Schumer and Obama, whoever else, they decide to do that. The question is whether or we've seen the images of him welcoming Trump into the White House. Those are some of the most astonishing things I've ever seen. I couldn't believe that after all the rancor that he was willing to do that. And I'm glad, of course, that he was because it clearly makes all of these preposterous statements that this is Hitler and that's the end of democracy. It shows those things to be, you know, hyper-trophied lunacy.

But I can't help wondering if this was Joe Biden's revenge. Someone said that he, as soon as he was forced to go out, that he rather quickly pushed Kamala Harris forward, hoping she would lose. I just wonder what you make of those speculations. Yeah, 100%. I think, you know, we don't know for sure, but all the circumstantial evidence points to that. I mean, the fact that you've never seen Joe Biden so happy as he was the day after the election when he came out and gave a press conference,

just beaming. He was beaming again when he welcomed Donald Trump, you know, Hitler back to the White House. And, you know, the first, when that Sunday, when he issued a statement, saying that he was dropping out, you know, a couple of weeks after the debate when he vowed that he would stay on and Hunter Biden, his son and his wife, Jill, were urging him to stay on. And then finally he capitulated after Nancy Pelosi did a, you know, a public humiliation of him saying, oh, well, we're waiting for Joe to make up his mind when he's just, you know, been telling everyone he's staying on no matter what. It would take God to push him out. And so,

that Sunday he issues a statement. There's no mention of Kamala Harris, and it looked like a statement written for him by other people. That's certainly what everyone who knows Joe Biden felt and said. And then about an hour later, he issues a tweet saying he endorses Kamala Harris. So it looks very much like he capitulated. He did what Pelosi and Obama and George Clooney and whoever else was telling him to do drop out of the race. But then he stymied them because Pelosi has admitted that to the New York Times just recently that what they wanted was an open primary process, a sort of an abbreviated beauty parade that would take over the DNC convention, create some momentum and some excitement, and then they choose a more worthy specimen like, you know, a Josh Shapiro or a Gretchen Whitmer.

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The brand new book is The Big Guy. Previous book, Laptop from Hell. Miranda, you were just making a point about what you think, or many of us gathered, the Democrats hoped for. and I myself was really astonished when Kamala Harris gets shoved to the fore, I thought, if I wanted to win and to beat Donald Trump, I would choose Hillary Clinton, someone, certainly not Kamala Harris. So how do you suppose that that happened? What do you suppose were the mechanics there? Because it still makes no sense to me. Who anointed her? Who made this decision? It really seems like, I mean, I guess if it was just,

Joe Biden doing this kind of for spite, it was extremely clever, more clever than I would guess, would have guessed him capable of being. Oh, no, he's extremely cunning. I mean, he didn't get to be president with very little other skills without having this really genius for that sort of Tammany Hall, ruthless, cunning, devious, backstabbing. I mean, he out-deviased Nancy Pelosi. And that's really saying something. I mean, she now has egg all over her face because she's the public face of shiving her good long-term friend, Joe Biden. And, you know, I think Camille Harris was also devious. And I think this became evident to Joe Biden halfway through the campaign in an article, it was the first I knew about it, too, in the New York Times, sort of buried in a

piece in September, I think it was September 24. There was a little, anecdote about how when during that sort of two-week period after the catastrophic debate performance, when Joe Biden was digging his heels in, Kamala Harris is a very good friend, a woman, Steve Jobs' wife, sorry, widow, a billionaire, richest woman in America. She got one of her staffers who used to work for Obama to conduct some focus group polling. And they found in the polling that Joe Biden had no chance of winning the election now. And so she circulated this information among donors. And suddenly, the donors were telling Nancy Pelosi and anyone else that the purse was shut and it's over for Joe Biden. If you stick with Joe Biden, you have no money.

And so that then became a problem and they had to shove Joe out. And I think that article open the eyes of Joe Biden to the fact that his loyal deputy wasn't so loyal because her best friend is the one paving the way for her to get the big gig. And so suddenly you saw him big footing Camilla Harris quite obviously.

I mean, he put on that MAGA hat that time. Everyone thought I was just befuddled. But I wondered if that was sort of a little sign. And then he, she was poised to, go on stage in Michigan to give a speech, taking credit for the stopping that impending longshoreman strike. And, you know, all the TV cameras are in Detroit focused on her. And Joe Biden, for the first time ever, strolls into the press briefing room at the White House. And all the cameras have to turn back to him. And he doesn't really have much to say other than to say that Kamala Harrison

here on the same page. They're singing from the same song sheet, that she owns every decision from his presidency and that they're joined at the hip, which was very damaging to her. And he did that a couple more times when she picked a fight, for instance, with Florida governor, Ron DeSantis over Hurricane Joe Biden just happens to pop up on TV saying, oh, no, you know, Rhonda Sanis is great. We have a great relationship. I just talked to him a little while ago, he's doing a good job. And so that was a slap in the face to Kamala Harris. I don't think it cost her the election, but certainly he was threatening her enough, either maybe behind the scenes, but certainly in front of the scenes, obviously, so that when she was asked that question on the

view about what would you do differently from Joe Biden, she said, I can't think of a single thing. And it was very strained for her to say that, but she could see going along inside her brain, such as it is, the calculation that if I actually do what I need to do politically, Joe's going to kill me. So I guess she made the big blunder. That was a big political blunder, but I don't think it would have saved her. Well, listen, it needs to be said again and again and again. She is easily the worst candidate for president I have seen in my long life. I have never seen anything to compare to it. She makes Mike DeCoccus look like Ronald Reagan.

I have never in my life seen a candidate as bad at being a politician, which you need to be a little good at to get elected president. So, I mean, she was horrible on the face of it as a candidate, but just in terms of her ability to speak off the cuff, I simply. can't believe that, you know, in a normal world, if there had been any primary process, any process, whatever, she never would have gotten near the top. So the fact that she was shoved out there, if you ever needed proof that she wasn't ready for prime time, that she couldn't win, I mean, we've all had it because, I mean, the moment at the rally where somebody

screams, Jesus is Lord, any other politician, Obama, Clinton, you name it, Hillary Clinton, they never would have said, uh-huh, you're at the wrong rally, would have known that this is a fatal faux pa. She blurts it out. So I simply, I don't know that we'll ever get over watching this woman flail for a couple of months in the way that she did. I just, I can't think of anything to compare to it. And who would know better what an inadequate candidate she was than Joe Biden, who'd had her

as his deputy for so long and who probably chose her as a little. his deputy because he knew that she would be no threat. And he also knew, and those around him knew, that his cognitive abilities were fading fast and that there might come a time when the Democrats would use the 25th Amendment against him, which if you remember the very devious, cunning, sly Nancy Pelosi, just before the 2020 election, she changed the 25th Amendment to somehow or added something to it to make it easier, some sort of mechanism. to make it easier to remove the president. Everyone thought she was doing that for Donald Trump in case he won, but I always suspected just from her demeanor and the things she said and just the way she is,

that she was actually, it was an insurance policy for Joe Biden because she knew that he wasn't up to it, and she was worried that he would go downhill fast. It's just, it's also filthy in some ways. It's just so dirty and awful. Well, your book is the big guy. What in the book might excite people to get a copy other than the thesis itself, which is very exciting? Well, there's a lot of sort of unreported material in there about China and Ukraine in particular, about the way the CIA intervened, even in the Hunter Biden investigation in Delaware. You know, the heroes of the book are many. Some public and some will have to have their names remain secret.

But they were my sources. These are the IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joe Ziegler, Hunter Biden's former business partners like Tony Bobolinsky and Devon Archer. These are people who came to my book launch, and there were also whistleblowers there who were anonymous. in New York because they felt so strongly about the importance of bringing this information to the public, especially before the election. And, you know, it's a story of heroism, really.

I mean, it's a tawdry story and a frightening story about how America's been taken over. But it's also a story about how good men, and they were all men, actually, stood up and were counted at considerable cost to themselves. And in the end, they triumphed because Donald Trump winning his victory was a repudiation to all the wrongdoers who did cover up and were corrupt. Well, I was privileged to be at your book launch where Tony Bablinski and Devin Archer were as well. And I have to say, it just makes one proud to be an American when you realize, there are people who will speak the truth. There are people who believe in this quaint idea of truth and justice and who are willing to risk something for that. Miranda, it's great to speak with you.

I want to reiterate that, you know, journalism has fallen on hard times. So to speak with an actual journalist who's willing to do the work that you've been doing for quite some time, and particularly in these last two books. It gives me hope for the country. It gives me hope the idea that the Post exists and the way they tried to crush the New York Post and the way the Deep State tried to do that. They failed. They will continue to fail. God bless America. And thank you, Miranda Divine. Joy to speak with you. Thanks so much, Eric, you too. Hey folks, the story of My Pillow is a testament to faith and transformation. Mike Lindell, once battling addiction, found a new path when he embraced faith and began following Jesus.

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800-978-3057. Folks, welcome back. You often hear me talk on this program about our friends at the Herzog Foundation. And I'm not blowing smoke. For example, Chris Stagall, welcome back to this program. Eric, it's a thrill. Good to see you again, friend. You are like what, the content and communications director of the Herzog Foundation.

Is that your title? Yeah, we make some shows here. I do some external communication with folks like you. So it's been a real privilege. Yes, sir. Well, what's new, Chris? I'm excited I get to actually talk to you. What's what's, you know, what are you guys working on?

It's been a very, very interesting time. Of course, given the election news that all of us are talking about, that kind of makes us rethink and imagine everything. Of course, President Trump's huge victory last week. And one of his pledges is I know you've talked with him. I know you've spent some time with him. He has zeroed in on the Department of Education. He said that one of his top line item focuses is to,

to rid the country of the Department of Education. Can you believe, I mean, I just want to say to people, ladies and gentlemen, can you believe we have lived to see this? I mean, this reminds me of during his first term, when we're talking about energy independence, I said, what? What? Are you kidding? Energy independence in America?

Like, I grew up with gas lines, OPEC gas lines in the 70s. Like, I never dreamt we could have energy independence. and under Donald Trump, we get that. I thought, I just didn't think I could live in a world where that's possible. So for him now to talk about abolishing this bloated tick on the body politic, which is known as the Department of Education, started by Jimmy Carter, 1979, I thought, I can't believe this. This is a dream come true to take all that money, to give it back to the states,

to give it back to parents, to do with what they want. want, this is, this is an unbelievable moment in, in America, in our history. And Eric, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm, what am I, 47? So I'm not even, you know, when, when you say that, I think about 1979, like the Department of Education is not as old as me, which, you know, some of these institutions, you think, oh, well, they've been around too long. We can't touch them. That one seems like one of the easiest one to pick off. I know President Reagan wanted to do it. So I really, we really do hope Donald Trump can succeed here. Well, listen, I think we all know, you know, the theme, of course, is that federal oversight is un-American.

We should have the smallest federal government necessary. And when it comes to stuff like educating your kids, you can do it locally. You can do it at the most on the state level. But the federal government has zero business in our Constitution. It has no right to be telling parents. Parents, by the way, can teach their kids anything they want. and they can send them to any school they want. It's not the government's job to tell us what we need to teach our kids.

And so, you know, it's why I am such a big fan of the Herzog Foundation, because you guys get this. You're about homeschooling. You're about Christian schooling. This is the future of America. So, you know, I don't know what the next few years will tend, but I am absolutely excited. And as you know, what we did see on various state ballots across the country, Eric, there were some efforts and successful, I'm sorry to say, to repeal some school choice measures in certain states last week. And it's simply because there's a ton of money in protecting the status quo.

I don't have to tell you, billions of dollars, particularly from teachers' unions that are fighting tooth and nail to stop parents from having the choice to take their tax dollars and spend it on their educational choice. So you can't rest on it. I mean, this is something that I think, frankly, as conservatives, we often, we get a little complacent. We have a big win like this and we think, well, that's settled. They never stop. They never stop. And they always find the funds and teachers unions in particular are highly invested in maintaining that status quo and telling people that your children will never receive an education if the Department of Education doesn't exist or your school district doesn't exist. And look, we're not out to

pick on people's schools or their school districts, but we are out to advocate for parents and say, you know best, you ought to get to educate your children the way you see best. That's the point. Well, look, there's no doubt about it. And I think that maybe a lot of times Americans, especially younger Americans, don't understand the way this is supposed to work. Let me explain the ladies and gentlemen. This is a free country. So you're supposed to do whatever you want pretty much. You're supposed to say, well, I want my kids to learn in my basement. We're going to set it up and I'm going to homeschool my kids. The federal government has no right to pretend like you don't get a say in how you're going to do it. So you've got to put your kids on a bus.

and send them to that school, whatever. All of that has grown over the decades and decades and decades. We can go back to John Dewey. This idea that somehow the government knows better than parents know, it is fundamentally un-American. And the idea that I have to give my tax dollars to some bureaucracy to educate my kids, it's just wrong. We should be able to keep that money and do with it.

It's no different than if the government said, we've got government housing, you need to live in government housing. And you'd say, well, what are you talking about? I have my own house and I pay rent or I bought a house. Why do I have to live in government? They're like, well, we just don't think people should have say in that. We've got government housing and here's where we're putting you.

You'd say, well, that's a violation of my freedom. It's no different than with our kids. Parents have absolute autonomy over what they want their kids to learn. And some secular liberal version of reality is not really what most parents want their kids. to learn, but we've accepted it in America because for the longest time, public schools were decent enough and when we've been along with it. But we have just, we've got a lot of work to do to get back. You know, Eric, it's an emotional argument because my mother was a public school teacher for 30 years. My mother's a good woman. My mother's not a radical idealist. She genuinely believed in teaching

elementary school kids reading and writing and math. She had no political agenda. And people feel attachment to their school districts and their high school Friday night lights and all of that stuff. I understand that emotion and you want to assume, hey, I go to church with that lady or I see him or her in the grocery store. They're good people. You don't want to cast a wide net and call everybody in public education bad actors, but as a body, the mothership of public education does not have your values at heart. We'll be right back, folks talking to Chris Stagall with the Herzog Foundation, Hertzsock Foundation.HerzokFoundation.com. Welcome back. We're talking to Chris Stegau with the Herzog Foundation, herdsog Foundation.

Hurtsog Foundation.com. And Chris, you were just saying a lot of people across the country, they have kind of, you know, maybe they have an okay local school district or they have relationships or something. So, yeah, we want to be clear that there are places in this country when if you send your kid off to get a public school education, it might be mostly okay. But we also know that there has been mission creep over the decades. And we have seen. seen Marxist lunatics take over, certainly teachers' unions. Why are the teachers unions, you know, it strikes me that they're not just corrupt, but that they are somehow leftists. What happened that teachers unions across this country have become so wedded to Democratic talking points and basically anti-school choice? How did that happen? You know, I'd like to point the moment in time in history. I don't.

know that I know it specifically, but I will say if you go to our website at read lion.com, our news website, which is tremendous. We write stories, our team of journalists do every day about mad stories all over the country, real ideological craziness and Marxism that is crept into our public schools. When did it start? I don't know, but I will say this. It's clear that somewhere along the way, and maybe there's a historical precedent, you're smarter than me about this, Eric, you'd know. Someone decided, you know, the best way to grow our ideology is to get a hold of the most impressionable people in our midst, our children first. And teaching, rather than becoming this noble vocation, became a center of political activism. And I don't know exactly when, but so, so frightening now,

are so many public school teachers, young people with this ideological bent coming out of education training with this idea that they're going to get a hold of our most vulnerable young people and turn them in to a political ideological movement or members of that movement. We've seen it in the growth of, hey, just keep this trans discussion between you and me. We won't tell mom and dad. It's a sick thing. And I think the only way their ideology can grow is if they get the young people in this country to, number one, hate God, hate our founding, question their own existence.

and then gravitate toward their political ideology. I think that's the nut of it. When it started, I couldn't exactly say, but it's here for sure. Well, I know it started with John Dewey. These are the kinds of things that, again, it takes decades and decades. And I think most Americans are a combination of naive, innocent, sweet, and busy. And they just assume it's okay. and I have to say that, you know, the education I got in public school in the 70s in America,

in Danbury, Connecticut, it was absolutely decent. There was zero marketist lunacy. There was zero leftist lunacy. But that was just Danbury, Connecticut. That was in the 70s. Over time, we know these folks have gotten more and more entrenched. And I think it's time for house cleaning. It's kind of like, you know, it's time to abolish the Department of Education. It's time to do a lot of things to go scorched earth on this bureaucracy. And folks, because bureaucracy is antithetical to American freedom. And so that goes for education, this idea that these elites, that they know better, that's wrong. They don't know better.

And we in our naivete and just wanting to be friendly, we've allowed this to go on and on and on. And so obviously, because I talk about it every day, the Hertzsock Foundation exists to give you resources, free resources to help you figure this out for your kids, for your grandkids. So, Chris, let me ask you, you guys at readlion.com is the newsletter is rather the website, readlion.com. HertzsockFoundation.com is the larger website. But what do parents say when they come to you? Are they just, are they looking for better ways to, to do Christian schooling? Like maybe there's a Christian school and they're asking you for help with that, or is it mostly about homeschooling?

What are you hearing? A little of everything. And over the last couple of years that I've been professionally associated with the Herzog Foundation, what I have found are so many parents across the country don't have. And my wife and I didn't either, by the way, when we took our youngest and took her out of public school and put her into a private Christian school, we didn't know a lot. We were quite green. And so my wife and I do a show at the foundation called Making the Leap,

where we talk to people all over the country who have either pulled their kids like we did and tried Christian school for the first time. But many of them, Eric, are starting their own schools. That's the real magic. I want to say the laboratories of education that are going on all over the country. Yes, there are well established in great Christian schools, and we talk about them. But there are also people that have said, I've been homeschooling my kid, maybe some people down the street say, I really like what you're doing. Do you mind taking my child

into? And they're building these small one-room schoolhouses in their community. They're called pod schools or micro-schools. So there are versions of established Christian schools, homeschooling by yourselves, you as your parent and just your kids. They're micro-schools where communities are coming together in their churches. But we at the foundation, we set up these trainings for people that have established Christian schools together and learn from one another. Or if you've never tried this before and you say, it's on my heart to homeschool now, or I have it on my heart to start my own community Christian school. We walk you through the steps, free of charge, an eight-step process we call school blocks to help you get started. We offer free trainings all over the country

in various facets of Christian education for people that are already in established schools and they want to learn more and learn from others. If you can get to the training, we cover the cost of everything. You're lodging the trainings, the people that put on the trainings, as well as your food. cover it all. And you can see all of the different trainings we offer and where they are all over the country at Herzog Foundation.com. It's just fantastic. I think, you know, I've been beating the drum for homeschooling and Christian schooling for a long, long time. I keep saying over and over that as I travel around the country, which I do so much, I meet so many people. Whenever the homeschool kids come up with their parents, I am almost in every case amazed at their maturity, at their

poise at their knowledge that it really is like you think wow could it be like this and we have to be brave so whenever anybody gets this wrong idea well i'm not qualified or i don't know what about education folks trust me when i tell you you're more qualified than you would ever dream and it's the ones who are worried about being qualified that that's a good sign it means you actually care about doing the right thing um and the worst thing you can do is be convinced by someone from the outside that they're better suited to teach your child than you are. And my wife and I, my wife was a public school teacher by training Eric, and even she would admit wrongly today with some growth and some miles on the tires, we made terrible mistakes.

We handed our oldest kids off to public school thinking, well, they're trained, they're better suited than we are. Even my wife who was a publicly trained public school teacher. I got a terrible mistake. We got to hold it there. Herzog Foundation.com, folks, check out Hertsokfoundation.com and go to reedlion.com. Chris DeGal, thank you.

Eric, it's a pleasure. Thank you. A couple things I want to share. I want to show you a copy of the Socrates book, and I want to tell you about the people that these are bitter liberals trying to crush the Bonhofer film, which is why you need to see it this weekend. I'll tell you in a minute. But before that, I want to tell you about our friends

at Americans for Prosperity. As you know, they made a huge difference this year. Yeah, it's called the election. What did they do? Well, AFP volunteers made millions of voter contacts. They are the largest, most effective ground game operation in the country to defend and advance the conservative movement. But of course, the election is now behind us. And you know what?

I heard that Trump won. That couldn't be. America would never elect Hitler 2.0. Would they? No, they wouldn't. So Trump won. What do we do now? Well, the hard work of turning electoral victory into policy wins begins now. And the grassroots army with Americans for Prosperity will again be in the thick of it. We've got an incredible opportunity to get the country back on track. It means we will all have to roll our sleeves up and get to work. What do we do? Well, if you're ready to join a winning team making a difference across the country, check out my friends at AFP. Learn more at Americansfor Prosperity.org. Americans for Prosperity.org. Okay, so I promised that I would talk. I got to mention the Bonhofer thing.

A group of crazy people wrote a letter, and this is all you need to do, is like mentioned Christian nationalism or something. They saw that the Bonhofer movie poster, one of the posters, has Bonhofer like holding a gun. And this is just like marketing. Angel.com, I mean, Angel Studios just thought, oh yeah, we'll make it look cool like a thriller.

or he has a gun. They actually wrote a big thing saying that they're worried about political violence, you know, because Bonhofer was in a plot to kill Hitler. So is this movie inciting political... That's how insane they are. But of course, they need the complicity of other insane or merely ignorant people. And so, like, all these liberal websites are trying to squash the movie. It's so insane because any liberal you take to the movie will love the movie. The movie is a great film. You'll see. I mean, you'll see. It's like, it's a great film that anybody in America will love.

And I would say particularly if you're politically liberal, you'll love it. You'll see. But that's not stopping from lunatics from trying to squash it. So I want to say what I've been saying is make sure you see it this weekend. Make sure you get the word out with everyone you know with pastors. Please take this seriously, folks. I really, it would be a real tragedy for a film this wonderful, this mainstream and wonderful and faith-based not to do well at the box office. And as I've said throughout the week, it really depends on the opening weekend.

This is the opening weekend. So please, please make a plan. Please just do this. And bring whoever you want. It's one of those, it's just one of those rare films where you could just just. bring absolutely anybody and you'll you'll see so it's it's fantastic okay so the socrates in the city event that's happening December 10th here in new york city we're going to be giving out copies of the new socrates book it's called socrates this is a mock-up this is this is an actual mock-up of of the book right

and this book is edited by me what is it is it inappropriate to cat call a book because that's very You say hubba, hubba. Haba. Hubba. Haba. Wow, Yauza. No, but honestly, the book is so wonderful that, I mean, I put a lot of effort into editing this. But these are the greatest conversations we've had at Socrates in the city. If you want to pre-order a copy, it's 20% off only if you pre-order it before December 10th.

But it is, I mean, I promise you, it is a fantastic Christmas gift. I guarantee you. Go to Eric Mattaxas.com under books, you'll see. at Ericmetaxis.com, but it's going to make a great gift. It'll provoke people to think about the big questions, you know what I'm saying? So, Ericmetaxis.com. All right, talk to you soon.