The Eric Metaxas Show - Naomi Wolf (Encore)

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Naomi Wolf returns with an update on Pfizer medical reports.

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I don't care what day it is. I want to do Fun Facts Friday every day of the week. So, Albin, do you have any fun facts? That's the key. You have to have fun facts. Yeah, it's great to be back with you, Eric, talking about Fun Facts Friday. No matter what day of the weekend it is. It's just like Shannon Breen says, it's fray, whenever there's Fun Facts Friday.

So, but you know how we used to begin it. I mean, we haven't done one for like about two years, but we used to begin it with the song, the Fun Facts Friday song. So I've got to officially open it with the Fun Facts Friday song. So if you don't mind. Would you do that? Because it's been a while. Yes.

And I don't even remember. Go ahead. Please. Okay. Me, me, me, me, me. And I've got the uphill. block, Hillbottle, past the net here. I don't hear any canstinets.

Do you hear it? No, I don't hear anything. Wow, that's really something. Okay, well, here, I'll try it in there. Yeah, let me just start singing because we've got to get this thing going. Come on and have some fun just for the fun of it. Tune into Eric Show, and you'll be in the know. You may learn something new and something untrue too.

Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun facts Friday, Friday's here. Wow. Wow. I can't believe it's been a long time since I heard that song. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You, Alvin, I forgot. I forgot the lyrics.

I forgot the whole. I mean, okay. It got the 26 on the Billboard Top 100. So what are you going to do, right? Right, except there was no category. That's right. So, okay, so what are the fun facts? Fun facts, these and gentlemen, they're facts and they're fun. So what are some of these fun facts? Okay. This first one is a question. And believe it or not, I got this from a jumble puzzle from about five or six days back, okay? Is the center of the earth, okay, the core of the earth? What do you think, Eric? Is it as hot as hotter than or cooler than the surface of the sun? the core of the earth. You know something, you know me.

I love questions like that. And my instinct tells me that the answer is it is hotter than the surface of the sun. I don't know if that's right, but that's my, that's the answer I would put on the test. According to the creators of Jumble, and you know what scientists these guys are, they said it's exactly the same degrees, the same temperature, which is 10,000 degrees, 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit, surface of the sun or the earth. Now, I think that's kind of interesting because is atheism dead and all those scientific facts you have in that book?

And I bet you it matches something along the lines of the moon's distance from the earth and the earth's core and the sun's heat. You know, I think it's part of that existence of God kind of truism. Well, I mean, the idea that that's true, that the surface of the sun is the same temperature as the center of the earth. That's at least extremely interesting. Yeah. I need to know more to see whether it rises to the level of like,

woo, that looks like God's design. I mean, everything points to God's design, but sometimes it's obvious. But look, that's just an interesting fact. I would not have known that. Yeah, and I wonder if Stephen Meyer or Dr. James Tour would have a comment on that. Okay, by the way, here's another fun fact that kind of dovetails off of that.

If you were to fall through the crust of the earth and kept falling to the core of the center, the very center of the earth, it would take you, it would take you 19 minutes, 19 minutes to fall all the way. That's how far the distance is. And if you, hold on a second, hold on, because this is, this is very typical of you, Albin. It's, it's delightful and frustrating at the same time. part of the frustration is delightful and part of the delight is the frustration. So let's clear this up. Let's say there's a hole in the earth, a hole all the way down and I can fall toward the center of the earth. Yes. So we know that the diameter of the earth is about 8,000 miles across.

So I'm falling 4,000 miles. Okay. Terminal velocity is, what, 130 miles an hour or something like that? I don't know. But you're telling me that to, actually, that doesn't make sense that it would take 19 minutes. Yeah, you know, it's funny because I kind of went to several websites. One of them was National Geographic. One of them was, believe it or not, the Today Show.

And I was getting their, you know, bits and pieces of their fun facts. And I'm not sure exactly where I got this one. Because I travel 4,000 miles. I mean, from where we're sitting, yeah, to the center of the earth is, is for, unless I'm, I'm having one of those, like, moments, I mean, it's about, yeah, it's about 4,000 miles. Yeah, it's travel 4,000 miles. Right. If I was on at the speed of a jet plane, that's going to take me, you know, eight hours. Well, they're like, okay, but you get, okay, you must have a few rocks in your pocket.

that's all I can say. I mean, I'm just trying to figure this one out. I don't know where you got that from. That's so confusing to me. I feel like I'm missing something. Maybe somebody can write in us at the website and clarify that. Yeah, because it is a math question. It's like, and this is from my book obvious, but in my book obvious, I have a thing where

people talk about there's too many people on the planet. There's eight billion people on the planet. But if you do the math, and I have done the math two or three times, and my twin brother who actually told me about this fact, did the math. If you take, take every person in the world, 8 billion people, and you gave them a 20 by 20 foot by 20 foot, a square foot, you know, space to stand in. You could put all 8 billion people into the state of New Mexico. And that is absolutely true.

If you do the math, that I have heard. I think I've heard that before. Yes. So when people say too many people, too many people on the planet, they could all fit New Mexico, and this is not even them living on top of each other in high-rise apartments, okay, like New York City, for example. But that's, that you can find in my book obvious, but that, so, okay, but somebody might write in about that math question because that is basically a math question. Here's another math question, too, and this is another quirky one, but again,

I got it from both National Geographic and the Today Show. All of the blood in your body travels through your body once a minute. Once a minute, all the blood just travels all the way through your body, which I find really amazing, especially when you find out, and this is the second part of it, the circulatory system in a person's body is 60,000 miles long, 60,000 miles long. With all the little, you know, little veins and all the little bith and that, this is what they have to be, including capillaries, but that's mind-blown. All the blood that's in your right. And I'll tell you, I know that to be true because I spent the summer of 1986 driving all of that. Wow. That's impressive. Very few people have driven the circulatory system in their own bodies. And those who have typically would not admit

it on this or any other program. So thank you for being brave. You're welcome. But I had one of those passes, so I was able to go through the tunnels and all that without paying. This is a quick one. Any more fun facts? We just got a minute left. Okay. A very quick one. And this one, you have to kind of go out into the space station to figure it if it's true or not.

Venus is the only planet that spins clockwise. Venus is the only planet of our nine that spins clockwise. Now, clockwise doesn't make any sense because these things aren't spinning vertically. They're spinning horizontally. I know. It's like if you have to kind of get on top of it and look down because I thought the earth spun clockwise, but it doesn't. But if you get up and look down on the earth, it's actually spinning.

Oh, that's what you mean looking from above. Okay. Yes, it would be counterclockwise the earth. Because I'm thinking from east to west, you're thinking like it's going, but if you look down on it, So everything spins in one direction except for the planet Venus. That is wild. Yeah. Yeah.

And again, why is that? Why is it? But it's funny, Venus and Mars and men and women, you know, how they compare the planets. Fortunately, for our listeners, we're out of time. Albin, thank you for more fun facts. I want to look up that one that we were debating, but absolutely fascinating stuff. God bless you. Thanks for coming on.

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Naomi, welcome back. Thank you. So great to talk to you again. Well, listen, last night, we were both at an event. I don't know if we can talk about the event, but here's the event for me was I got to hang out with you and meet your husband, Brian, and there was just so much, it was just a lot of fun for me.

It was a lot of fun. And I didn't say this to you. you in person. I can embarrass you on the air. You looked lovely. You looked so lovely last night, and I ought to have said that, but I'm always about me. So, no, it was, it was just so, it was just a joy to hang out with you and to get to talk kind of offline, so to speak. But it was, it was a glorious event at the Pierre Hotel. And I don't even know, I don't know what we can talk about. What do you, what can we, can we say anything other than the fact that we were at some event last night? I'm waiting to get guidance about whether it was on or off the record. So I think

we can say generally that a lot of people in influential positions right now in America are feeling the need for committed Christians and committed Jews to join forces to kind of pull this nation back from Armageddon. And I think that's fair to... Not that there's anything wrong. with Armageddon. We don't want to judge. Yes. Don't judge, folks. But we want, you know what Naomi, last night, just because, you know, you and I, we didn't really know each other when we were at Yale together and we've gotten to know each other over the last year, but we never get to see each other in person. So you're not aware of my

deeply idiotic sense of humor. So for me, what I found very humorous was when I'm talking to the rabbi in Palm Beach. And I said to them, oh, do they have Jews in Palm Beach now? And you said, are you joking? And I thought, yeah, I'm joking. Like, obviously, I'm joking. But I just want people to know, that's how little we really know each other, that you don't know what an idiotic joke story. I am, that I'll say stupid things like, are there Jews in Palm Beach? Now, anyway, it was just a delightful event, really, really so wonderful to meet you. And the head, the CEO of Daily Clout, you've got an amazing. So I'm the CEO and she's the C-O-O-O.

Oh, whatever. Yes. Whatever. The bottom line is it was just, it was delightful. You're involved in so many different things that it's always the challenge and the joy speaking to you about where do we go. Why don't we talk about you were recently in England with the number of people I admire. And do you want to talk about that a little bit? What happened there? In London?

Yeah. Yeah, sure. Very important. And, you know, again, sometimes Eric, you and I as kind of old school journalists, survey the culture and sort of throw up our hands that the stories that should be stories are not stories in the legacy media, and stories that shouldn't be stories are stories. And this is an example of the former. This is one of the biggest events affecting free speech in Britain in this century, I would say,

which is I flew to appear in a painful hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice in London for a case which is Mark Stein, the commentator formerly of GP News, very established commentator. He's been a commentator for 50 or, he said 60. I don't get the math of that. Or he said 50. I don't get the math of that. But, you know, he's been well known for decades and decades. I mean, he had a show on G.B. News, which was pretty, you know, standard opinion and news. And he made the, you know, committed the crime of inviting me in October of 2022, and I brought to that show the findings of the War Room Daily Cloud Pfizer documents research team, which your audience knows about by now, these 3,250 doctors and scientists under Amy Kelly's

leadership, who have issued 104 reports now, elucidating what's in the Pfizer documents. These documents released under court order, 450,000 documents, internal documents that Pfizer thought would be secret forever and the FDA asked the court to keep hidden for 75 years. And as your audience knows, because I've said it many times, these reports that our team created linked to the original documents and show, without question, the greatest crime against humanity ever committed. And I'm, you know, Jewish. I mean, think about what you just said. Every time somebody says something like that, I just have to stop.

Ladies and gentlemen, you didn't miss here. there's no hyperbole. Listen carefully. Listen carefully. The greatest crime ever committed in the history of humanity, either that's insane, preposterous hyperbole, or something you should pay attention to. And I tell you, Naomi, again, I mean, the reason I have to interrupt and hit pause all the times, it is nearly impossible to process the magnitude of the evil we are discussing. So anytime you brought it up on this program, I am staggered afresh at the horror of what we in our lifetimes are talking about. It's not something that happened, you know, back under the Nazis. It's happening now.

And by the grace of God, you and others are bringing it to light. And there are many people that don't want to hear about it. Many people that are doing everything can to squelshed. You just mentioned that Mark Stein got in trouble because he had you on to talk about this stuff. I, YouTube, smacked me off completely. their whole channel because I dared to have you on this program to talk about something. And you just talked and they said, oh, you can't talk about that. So YouTube, I want people to know in case they're tuning into this program and they didn't know.

Just wipe this program off. We had 220,000 subscribers and we were growing and, like, booming. They wiped it out because we dared to have a conversation about something that is true. So you're talking about this over and over again, but the most recent iteration is you being in London. So forgive me for interrupting. Please keep going. No, no. I appreciate the contextualization.

I mean, you're right. It's not that I had forgotten. It's just putting all of these side by side is fascinating. I'm like typhoid Mary of information. Yeah, your trouble, which is a high compliment. Yeah. No, clearly because, you know, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry it happened to Mark Stein, but you guys are being.

being actual journalists and what I brought to you and to Mark Stein has been abundantly proven to be a thousand percent correct and factual. And, you know, the findings that I brought to you, that YouTube censored, the findings I brought to Mark Stein have since 2022 been presented at their request to the Brazilian parliament, twice to the Australian Parliament, to two members of the European Parliament in the Netherlands, to a head of. a party in Germany to any number of universities and colloquia of doctors and hospital administrators, to Senator Ron Johnson staff, to Congressman Tom Massey staff, to state legislators on and on and on.

And I mean, so many peer-reviewed studies have confirmed independently that my team is correct, you know, these findings are correct. And you can't even question the findings because every one of our reports links to the primary document. So if anyone is reading a report of ours and things, that can't be right. All they have to do is click through and they will see the primary internal secret document that Pfizer wanted to keep hidden forever, you know, right there and they can see for themselves. And in three years, Eric, we have not received a lawyer's letter or a letter of any kind from Pfizer indicating that anything is in. accurate. Yeah, nor have I received an apology from YouTube, but they sent me a lovely plaque telling me that in my new iteration on this new YouTube channel that we have 100,000 subscribers, congratulations. I don't really want another plaque. I like an apology,

but this is where we are, Naomi. This is where we are. It's astonishing. It's astonishing. It's astonishing. I mean, honestly, all of us should get damages in a just world. I don't want to bring that up. But yeah, I can't even imagine the revenue loss because of YouTube censoring this program the way they did. Accurate public health information. So let me go back, if I may, to my appearance, and then I want to talk about my use of language. So GB News was sanctioned by Offcom,

which is the government created a media regulatory agency in Britain, which, by the way, its very mission conflicts with European Court of Human Rights ruling that everybody in Europe and in Britain has the right to free expression. So Britain's free speech was already jeopardized when Tony Blair established this regulatory commission. But as with all censorship, its mission started out very narrow to protect people from harm. And, you know, the examples they gave were of like fraudulent claims. Well, but it doesn't, we're going to have to go to break. I just want to say, Nomi, it's always.

the case. You were on top of this in the United States of America when George W. Bush shoved the Patriot Act down our throats, and I was one of the gullible idiots who thought, oh, what's wrong with that? It's against terrorism. This is what they do over and over

again. Tony Blair is a bum for having done this. George W. Bush is a bum for having done this. And we, those of us who didn't speak out against it, were complicit. We'll be right back. We're talking to Naomi Wool. Get rhythm

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So Naomi, you're talking about what happened in England. I mean, most people in the U.S. who listen to this program are not familiar with it. So keep going. Explain more. Yeah, it's very important because it's, it's, A, it's happening across Europe, but B, it's the future of us unless we are very vigilant about our speech freedoms. So Offcom put pressure on GB News. GB News canceled Mark Stein's show, shame on them. And Mark Stein, to his great credit, sued Offcom and secured a judicial review last Tuesday, the 11th of June in London. And what a judicial review is is a judge hears both sides

and determines if the decision had been correctly or incorrectly made. So it was an excruciating day because I was not permitted to speak. Mark Stein was not permitted to speak in court. The court was packed with vaccine-injured Britons and widows of people who had died upon being vaccinated with this

MRI injection. Go ahead, Eric. No, no, no. I'm just astonished. I mean, because again, we don't talk about this every day, but people who took the vaccine, many, many of them died suddenly, prematurely. Many of them were injured in all kinds of ways. It is still happening.

Fox News is not talking about this. Very few people are talking about this. Shame on them all. And, okay, so here you are in court. Why couldn't, what was happening that first day that, that was, was the defense presenting that day? I'm not clear. So it's a very formal structure.

The Mark Stein's lawyers presented there what's called skeleton argument in the morning, and then there was a break for lunch. And then the defense, which is offcom, presented there, skeleton argument in the afternoon. And then the judge said at the end of the day that she would, what's called reserve judgment, meaning she's going to return with her decision at a later date that was unspecified. But it was painful for me because, well, A, Mark Stein had been seriously unwell and had gotten up, you know, against medical advice to fly across the ocean to appear at this hearing. And, you know, what a brave person. And so for the morning, I heard even Mark Stein's lawyers talking about how, you know, off

had said that I was a conspiracy theorist and that what I was saying was a serious, unchallenged conspiracy theory that caused harm, right? That was the issue I caused harm. And then I- Excuse me, but this is the difference between, we just have to be clear, like this is the new censorship. Offcom. Now, say again who Offcom is, so we're clear. Sure.

They're a parliament-created quasi-governmental agency whose mission is to regulate broadcast and radio content to prevent people from being harmed. Right. So whatever. We know who they are. They're the bad guys. And they're all about censorship. But notice how the Nazis would just say,

shut up or we'll throw you in a concentration camp. The new Nazis say we care about information and we care about people. And we have to be careful not to listen to conspiracy theorists like you. You're doing terrible things. You're harming people. And that was they couch it in this language. It's 100% baloney. But they do that because they know that they can fool some people,

that they're being responsible and you're the conspiracy theorist. But obviously, you had your day in court. So keep going. Well, sort of. Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. So the structure of the court is that neither Mark Stein nor I was permitted to speak.

I was permitted to write a statement which no one from the court. had told me in advance I would be allowed to file. It's a very opaque process. So I had to basically speak up in court and ask the judge to allow me to submit it to her. I'm very proud of the statement, but it basically contextualizes every single thing I said and pointed out that offcom is now going against the, is out of alignment with parliaments and leaders in free societies around the world. I mean, our team is going to meet with the government of Japan, you know, in September. I mean, And our findings are published in two books. One is coming out by Simon & Schuster, a major publisher.

You know, it was a top 10 Amazon bestseller last time. I mean, off-com is trying to censor something that people around the world and also many British citizens already know is both true and important. So I made that case, and then I trotted out all my credentials and said. But the scary thing I want to say before I go on to sort of what happened in the afternoon is, You guys really need to put this in context. It's not just about me and Mark Stein fighting this fight, or you fighting it, for example. It's really about how the whole power of government agencies, and by the way, YouTube was no doubt responding to the White House, putting pressure on social media companies, the case that's being decided right now by the Supreme Court, to censor critics like us of the vaccines and the lockdowns and so on. But people have to think about these powerful agencies of some of the most powerful nations in the world

are holding up individual journalists and commentators and really destroying them, right? I mean, Mark Stein was reviled across the British media. His career was destroyed. I was reviled across the British media. Called a conspiracy theorist. Literally, I've written for the British press for 40 years. none of my editors or people who made me a columnist will take my calls because I've been smeared by the British government and whether or not they believe, oh, Naomi Wolf went from being this credible commentator to conspiracy theorist who's insane overnight.

They don't dare risk platforming me because the government may go after them as well. We have to go to a break here. So I want to on the other side of the break. But I just want to be clear, folks, the people that Naomi's, talking about. These people are cowards and they are working, they are complicit

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Use promo code Eric or call 800-9783057. That's promo code Eric. 800-9783057-3057 promo-com. promo code Eric or go to MyPillow.com and use promo code Eric. Welcome back talking to Naomi. So you're talking about how all of these people won't take your calls because I just want to be clear. They're cowards. forgive me, but it's disgusting. It's shameful. We live in this world today. It's happened to me

where there are people that they read something about you and they don't want to be tainted by association with you. This is how evil works. Yeah, it's true. But I do want to jump in there, if I may, Eric, just to say, I'm trying to describe that it's much bigger than personal, like who she has cooties on the playground. You know, it's really a systemic demonstration. which has been effective to the entire British media establishment. It's not just that they can't dare go near Mark Steiner and Naomi Wolf. It's they can't dare go near this subject. Yeah.

Or any other subject that Offcom deems off limits. Then I want to say, I drilled down. I've been reading Offcom's argument, which is so lunatic on video. And their argument in the afternoon was like Alice and, Wonderland head-splittingly insane because they basically said to her credit the judge asked them if what Naomi Wolfe said is true how is it a conspiracy theory and or how is it harmful and um their off-coms lawyer actually said conspiracy theories can be true and the whole court cracked up and the judge the judge said everyone's got to you know get a grip on themselves they're all clear the

court room. I mean, people were just laughing and disbelief that this was off-com's position. Something can be true and still be a conspiracy theory. Something can be true and still be harmful. And then they drill down into their claims of what is harm that they're entitled to police. And it's so broad that Orwell couldn't have foreseen. Well, this is, I mean, again, it's fatiguing to use the term Orwellian. But that's what this is. We all read about it in junior high school. 1984 or well, and here we are. When we read it, the idea of assigning this stuff to kids in public school in the United States of America so that you'd be aware of what could happen. And of course now it is happening. And many of the people who read Orwell, first Animal Farm, then 1984, they're part of the problem. They're willing to go along just as those in the Soviet Union, in Hitler. is Germany, we're willing to go along to protect themselves, not to be tainted.

That's basically where we are. And so we have to be brave and keep going. Speaking of which, where do we go from here? Well, in general or in terms of this specific case? Was there more about this case that you want to share? I guess I've shared the main points, except to say, as an eyewitness, well, I did want to speak about language. You know, I had said this is the greatest crime against humanity and recorded history.

And part of off-com's distress with me is that I'd use the word mass murder. And they were very, very upset that I used language that suggested that this was intentional. These harms were intentional. And as you know, because we've talked about it, there's no way you can read the Pfizer documents and not conclude that these were intentional sterilizations, disabling, and, and murders because Pfizer knew exactly what they were doing and kept doing it, right? It's not like they saw, oh my God,

we killed two babies in utero due to maternal exposure. We're gonna tell everyone not to do this if they're pregnant, no, they kept going and kept going. They had 1,120 deaths in three months before February of 2021. They kept going, they kept going. In the liver report and the stroke report, half the adverse events were within 48 hours,

including deaths, they kept going. You know, they had to hide eight dead bodies of vaccinated people in order to get the emergency and this authorization. If they hadn't removed those dead vaccinated people from the math, they couldn't claim that you, that being vaccinated keeps you from getting killed because more people died with the vaccine than without, with accurate math. So it's just a, how can I put it? Saying mass murder, I was used, I was not using rhetorical or, um, colorful language in the off-com lawyers. Yeah, what is it called? What is the English word for when you kill people intentionally?

I believe that's murder. The only thing we can quibble about is what degree of murder. And maybe we could have a conversation there, but that's about it. Well, but I looked it up on Britannica.com, and what Pfizer did is literally the definition of mass murder. So what you've, and then they were upset that I had said, this is, you will relate to this, Mr. Bonhofer biographer, I said this is exactly the kind of thing that doctors in Germany were doing just before the Nazi era. And you and I both know racial hygiene and the Nazi doctors.

Two incredibly important, thoroughly solid works of history have abundantly documented that this is exactly how national socialism co-opted the establishment even before they formally won the election in 1933. They targeted professional organizations of doctors. And then they tasked doctors with identifying vulnerable teenagers, disabled teenagers, life unworthy with life of life. They gave them status. They gave them recognition. They gave them money, right? They punished the doctors who didn't align with these ideals. And then, you know, that was the entry point. So anyone who knows history knows that. And but offcom was upset about that. So basically, offcom, it's so interesting, the power structure. Offcom was upset that their bosses, the government of Britain, were being

targeted by me as criminals. Yeah. Well, you know, it hurts your feelings if people correctly identify you as behaving like Nazis. It hurts people's feelings. They get upset and they'll come after you. But the problem is in both cases, that was just literally correct. That's, yeah, and that's the problem. And that's why it really stings and why they have to come after you and call. all you names because it stings when you know that, yeah, you have behaved like Nazis, you've committed mass murder, and, you know, nobody wants to hear that. They would prefer that you'd go away or be silenced Naomi Wolf. But it's important.

I mean, look, this brings us to, partially to this event that we were at last night, apart from the ideas put forth in the Bible by God, that we are made by God in his image. We are all sacred. And every one of us has rights given to us by God, by dint of the fact that he made us in his image. And that the only reason that we ought to have governments is to secure those rights. When you get away from that, which we are getting away from in this country, then all of these things will happen. What the Nazis did, what they're doing in communist China, what they do around the United States. the world. That is the natural outgrowth of moving away from that biblical idea. When we come back,

we'll say more about that, talking to Naomi Wolf. So Naomi, this is what I find interesting, is that when you get away from the idea of the American founders enshrined in our founding documents, this idea, this biblical idea, you don't get it anywhere else in history. Where does it come from? It comes from the Bible, from the Jews who got it from God, and it is true. We had that enshrined in our founding documents. When you have that view and you stick to it, that is the only way you avoid drifting into what the Nazis did and what today's Nazis are doing. Because if you do not have that view of human beings, why wouldn't you do these things? Right. Exactly.

I mean, it's not, you know, as I've been saying for a while in these conversations, you don't know what you've got until it's gone, right? We didn't realize how blessed we were with having a society, even if the society says it's secular, even with the separation of church and state, even if you're an atheist, until recently you were living in a Western culture that was like lost wax technique of the Ten Commandments. You know, like orphanages don't kill babies or traffic them. Hospitals don't kill people. You know, the sanctity of life is, you know, you're supposed to try to save people's lives if you can. You try not to lie or cheat in commerce and so on. And we didn't realize how much those are based on, you know, God's word in Exodus, right? You know, via the Jews and then via Christians, certainly Islam, you know, is part of that tradition.

But now that we've kind of turned away. from the covenant, you know, I've talked about this before, I do feel like demonic forces have rushed right in, and we can no longer count on those, you know, the premise that if you're a reporter, you're supposed to tell the truth. If you're, you know, in commerce, you're not supposed to defraud people and fundamentally you don't kill people, right? You don't kill, you don't kill, you don't kill, you don't kill, thou shalt not kill. So, yeah, we've completely taken our hands off the rudder, of the Ten Commandments, the Noah Hyde laws, and this is the result, like complete chaos all around us. And chaos that ultimately, like people kid themselves if they think, oh, I'll just, you know, cheat and murder and, you know, get my $5 million payout from a farmer or whatever, and I'll be fine.

One is not fine. It always comes back to oneself, right? There's a very short, carmic loop we're in right now. And so just being in Britain, this is very profound, right? All of those journalists who were silent who weren't even there to cover the biggest journalism story in Britain in the 21st century, they're the ones who are being silenced. They're the ones who are losing 30 million pounds a year, I heard, is what the Guardian is losing. So there's no such thing as. Well, look, they're all dying. I mean, anybody foolish enough to pay money for the New York Times or the Washington, Post at this point. The reason they're dying, I mean, you said it, you know, you said that there's a short

carmic loop. It's called like playing against the house. God created reality. So you want to bet against the house. Good luck. You might have some short term earnings, but in the end, there's no way you can win because we're talking about reality. We're not talking about, you know, two competing versions of things. We're talking about reality and fantasy. And so there are plenty of people looking for the short-term game again. And it's like trying to tell them crime doesn't pay. They're thinking, well, I think it'll pay in the short term and we'll see how it goes. We will see how it goes. I think that those who have, you know, decided to go along with these false narratives for their own selfish purposes are going to find out increasingly that it was a bad bet. Naomi, I'm so sorry we're out of time. Okay.