The Eric Metaxas Show - Ned Ryun weighs in on recent events in the administration

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

CEO @AM_National and Voter Gravity Ned Ryun joins the program. Eric and Ned dive into the current state of the Trump administration.  

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This is hour two of our special July 14th broadcast. In a minute, we're bringing on the heroic. Ned Ryan. Oh my gosh. He's one of the greats. He is one of the greats coming up here. I want to say, I was on Newsmax the other day with Greg Kelly talking about late night TV. And I want to talk about that right now. But before that, I want to mention our friends of the Herzog Foundation. As some of you know, I always talk on this program about how much I love homeschooling. And I think, and this is the underreported fact news of our time, is that those who are involved in homeschooling are going to take over the world. These young people that are getting amazing educations also in classical Christian schools and they're going to take over the world.

They have an understanding of things and a maturity that nobody going to secular schools or public schools is getting. And so I say that if you're interested in homeschooling or if you're interested in classical K-12 Christian education, there is no better resource, folks. There is none better than the Herzog Foundation. Take advantage of them. They are there to help you, Herzog Foundation.com. Herzog Foundation.com. Folks take advantage of them. Get in the game. This is the long game of how we win the culture war and how we take our country back. I don't just mean, you know, winning an election from Joe Biden. I mean, take the country back to our roots of liberty and justice for all.

Take our country back to its Christian foundation where we really understood the link between faith and freedom. The way we do that, in part, has to do with education. Hurtzog Foundation is leading the way. Another way we do that is in the world of entertainment, comedy, media, and that's what I talked to Greg Kelly about on Newsmax just the other night. What was this? Thursday night? I can't remember. Yeah, there was a survey that came out talking about the bias and political affiliation of guests on the late-night talk shows going back a couple of years. And it was this crazy study showing that 99% of the guests were basically registered, either liberal or Democrats, or, I mean, it was crazy.

Well, but I mean, it's also like so ridiculously obvious that this is why nobody watches light night anymore. I mean, it used to be a big thing. And if you're old enough, you remember the golden era of Johnny. Carson and even Letterman. Oh, my gosh. And what happened? Well, I'll tell you what happened. They just all went woke. You go woke. You go broke. The shows are pathetic. I mean, come on. Is anybody talking about how hilarious Stephen Colbert was last night? I don't think so. Is anybody talking about how hilarious Jimmy Kimmel was or Jimmy Fallon? It's just something has happened.

So I talked to Greg Kelly about it and we posted this. If you get a lot of it, my newsletter. I sent the clip to you. I posted it on X. But I talked to Greg Kelly about this on Newsmax the other night. And it has been a big part of God's calling on my life to work in this space, the world of entertainment, show business. We have to be in that game, just as we have to be in every game, to take the culture back. And when I say to take the culture back to what? to common sense, to reality, to loving the country, to being pro-faith, to state it as blandly as I could possibly state it. But we realize that a secular leftist view has slowly taken over the world of entertainment. So that now, you know, if you want to let now, a lot of people say, what about, what about Greg Gutfeld?

Greg Gutfeld, ladies and gentlemen, much as I love Greg Gutfeld, is not doing a Johnny Carson type show. He's doing a show where, you know, you might like the show. I don't really like the show. I like him. I like his monologues and stuff. But I'm saying that he's not interviewing people across a desk the way Johnny Carson used to do. He's not doing that. It's a different kind of show.

So God bless Greg Gutfeld, but that's not the kind of a show I'm talking about. But are people watching it instead of watching? Jimmy Fallon? Well, of course, because what else is there? They don't have, of course, you're going to watch something like that because you're flicking around looking for something. What is there that's going to be talking about the news of the day and whatever? You're going to go there. But I'm talking about a show that is more along the lines of Letterman and something that aims to reach the middle. Now, I know there are people out there. They're not interested in reaching the middle. They just want to yell at everybody who's

not like exactly where they are. I don't think that's great. We were talking about that in hour one today. I think you need both. Let's put it that way. You need both. And I love how Greg Kelly wrapped up that interview kind of hinting, boy, if we only had somebody with that talent, somebody with that gift, who do you

think might be able to fill that gap? That was. And that actually surprised me. And you know this because you're my friend. That was great. I mean, people know that for a long time I have wanted to do a show like. that. But I didn't expect Greg Kelly to bring it up on the program that he thought that I would be a good candidate for that. I don't know if he's hinting that Newsmax would offer me a show like that or I really don't know. But I was pleased to think that he thought that I would be qualified to host a show like that. Of course, he's correct in that. But I'm still, I'm always surprised when people see things the way I do. But I, What I ended up saying in that clip, which is what I said at the beginning of this segment,

I think this is strategically important to get back to what I was saying in hour one today. We are in a great war. And in a war, you need to be working on several fronts at once. And to simply think that you can win by fighting on the political front is mistaken. The left has done the long march through the institutions over the decades so that the whole world is lunatic woke because they've been playing the long game. And we on the right have not been in the entertainment space, in the media space, in the show business space very much. And so that's why I believe strategically it is vital to have shows like the one that I'm describing or like the one that I propose myself. to host a late-night Johnny Carson-type show that allows people to come on who, well,

you've got several kinds of guests, right? One would be to have on people that are political firebrands, who are conservative firebrands, but to talk to them about their lives. Or you just went on vacation. Or I hear you just had your third kid. You know, to humanize these folks so that you don't only see them as spitting out political talking points to say, hey, this is a really wonderful human being. I like this person. That's what the left has been doing. On all these late night shows, they'll bring on people

literally like Chuck Schumer. You know, Stephen Colbert brings on Chuck Schumer, who is as unpleasant almost as Michelle Obama. And he tries to humanize him and I, you got to book out Chuck. And let's talk about that. And they joke. This is, this is. This is. basically humanizing Chuck Schumer in a way that the audience says, oh, he's not such a bad guy. Well, I think he is such a bad guy. But Stephen Colbert, as part of this grand strategy, he's got a late-night show, and he's just making Chuck Schumer like, yeah, he's kind of a nice guy. Yeah, he's not.

Neither is Nancy Pelosi, neither is Hillary Clinton. These are dark figures, folks. You know, whatever they accuse us of, like they are actually that. But they have several late-night shows to make these people seem like, you know, they're your pals, they're not bad. And they are bad. So we need to have a show, like a Johnny Carson type show, as I keep saying, where we have on figures on the right. And we show actually the truth that they are delightful people. This is part of strategy, but I don't think it's cynical. I really do believe that it's God's will for this country that we take back show business. And that we're,

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I'm Michael Buffer. I'm Eric Metaxis here. And as promised, we have on, my goodness. Ned Ryan, welcome back to the program. It's great to be back with you, Eric. looking forward to the conversation. In case people don't know who you are, you're the CEO and founder of American majority.

What the heck does that mean? All I know is you're out there doing like so much stuff and you do it with American majority. But you are a great patriot. You're the son of a great patriot, the great Jim Ryan. Oh my goodness. I never forget meeting your dad the first time.

I'm so excited to meet your dad. But you're out there. you're on Fox News. You're everywhere talking about important stuff. And you're one of the people that I look to for wisdom in the midst of these crazy times. So we've been talking about a lot in the last hour. And I want to kind of throw it to you because obviously right now, and by the way, I have to mention to people if they're watching on video, that is the Bonhoeffer book by Eric Mattax is prominently displayed on your shelf. It's been there for years. I know. Like, I read it years ago, and obviously this is the background for my TV hits. And so I put books that I think are important, plus my books, American Leviathan, Restoring a Republic, The Adversaries, and obviously the Bonhoffer book. And so that's been there for a long time. I know. No, I know. I know.

A very inspiring figure, obviously, appreciate you writing that book. And obviously, the movie. So that's great. Yes, and people, if you haven't seen the movie, oh my gosh, jump. It's on Apple TV. It's on Amazon Prime. It's a great movie. Okay, Ned, what is going on right now? You and I, I think we're on the same page on most things. We're kind of upset with the turn of events in the last week or so.

What's going on? I just think it's unforced. Well, let's go back over the last call. It's about 10 days, 12 days. What a great triumph that the big, beautiful Bill passed. First of all, I think it was in many ways for self-preservation. Republicans got to pass it in the House and the Senate because you can't let those massive tax hikes go in,

potentially trigger recession, going into the midterms. So Republicans in many ways, even though they didn't seem to understand that at the beginning, I think they realized towards the end, let's make this as good a bill as we can and get this pass and codify Trump's campaign promises. I think there's 28 executive orders of Trumps that are codified as well. So great triumph, tax cuts permanent. I think one of the other things I'm really excited about.

There's a lot of other good things, but the $175 billion for border security, 701 miles of border wall, no less than a million deportations a year. Like this to me, Eric, there are a lot of things that I think people are kind of missing. Illegal immigration costs us 150 to 180 billion a year. And if you think about if we can actually solve this problem, if you're extrapolate over 10 years, that's like 1.5 to 1.5 to 1.1.1. $1.8 trillion in potential savings for the American taxpayers by solving the immigration problem. You know, another aspect of the big, beautiful bill, $1.5, $1.6 trillion in mandatory savings,

$2.8 trillion that the CBO has said will be saved, cut off the federal deficit because of the tariffs. A lot of triumphs. Then we get into the next week, and a couple of things happened that I thought were pretty interesting in some ways a little frustrating. First of all, I thought it was great that we opened up an investigation into breaking, and Comey for their role in Russian collusion. Oh, excuse me. Excuse me.

Ladies and gentlemen, do you don't understand how huge this is? Massive. Huge. Huge. Amazing. So this is one of the things like triumph after triumph. And then all of a sudden, the Epstein thing. And I have to be very clear, it's not been like top 20 issues for me.

I got a lot going on, American majority, American majority action. A lot of other things that are priorities plus a lot of different issues that I feel strongly about. Epstein, to me, was somewhere in the background very much. on the back burner, and they produced this memo, which, by the way, nobody wanted to sign, and say, yeah, there's nothing really there. We can just all move on in life. And then Trump saying at the cabinet meeting, why are you even asking about this anymore? Okay, this to me is such an unforced area. Yes, I want to focus on all of these other things because I think there's a lot of triumphs. I think there's a lot of positive things. And then they just stepped in it with this

Epstein thing. They're like, ah, we're not going to talk about this anymore. And I just think that's the wrong approach. I think that is causing a lot of people some angst in the base. You said this was a big deal. We had a certain impression that something was going to be done in this regards. And now you're like, don't worry about it. We're just going to move on. I don't think they're messaging this correctly at all and they're stepping on their own victories. Okay. Okay. And I totally agree with everything you just said. That was the horror for me was to see someone I love and respect more than anybody. Donald Trump. Yep. make what I saw was an error.

I thought, oh, I'm not used to seeing him do something that I think, I think that was a mistake. I think that will hurt you. And it hurts me because I think it's going to hurt him and it hurts the whole thing. And I think that you almost never see him do that. So it was a little shocking to see that. The other thing, too, is Pam Bondi assured us back in February. She had a list. And I have to tell you, Eric, do I think there's a list?

I think there's something out there. Does it still exist, though? Listen, I think the four years of Biden were this massive cleanup of putting away compromising information, making it disappear. So at one point, I do think there was some sort of information that would say, here's a list of some sort. So she assured people, we have this. Then she gives those binders to the influencers saying this is something real and original,

and they're all out there holding these binders up like there's some great revelation, and they realize it's all old information. So I'm like, Pam Bondi in many ways to me has made this the issue. I know it's been discussed by Cash and by Dan, but Pam Bondi's really been pushing this issue the last few months. And now it's all of a sudden like, hey, we were just kidding. It's not really that big a deal. We're just going to move on from it.

And whatever the reality and the truth is of what's going on, I think they need to be a bit more forthcoming about what's actually taking place. If they came out and said tomorrow, Eric, listen, all this information, all the stuff that we thought was there, all the data, it was disappeared. There are certain elements inside of our government that disappeared. Whatever you want to say, come out and be honest about it. Because I think the bigger issue for me, Eric, is, again, not really, it's not a big deal to me. The Epstein thing is just not one of my top 20 priorities. The reason that it's a bigger issue for me is, in some ways it's a proxy issue, as Sean Davis has pointed out,

my good friend, is kind of a proxy issue for, are you able to bring the deep state to heal? Are you able to actually bring truth and transparency and accountability or not? And if you're not on this issue, we've got a real problem. See, that's, as I expected, you're

framing it perfectly. It really is, I also think part of the equation is that Trump gets very upset when he is embarrassed by people on his

team. I think Pam Bondi, to be frank, embarrassed this president in the way she has handled this. I think Dan Bongino got out of line and further embarrassed the president by publicly leaking that he might leave if whatever. Dan should not have done that. And I think that something happens with Trump when the people around him are taking the focus off of his triumphs. And now everybody's talking about this other thing. So I think it is likely that he might let Pam Bondi go. I don't know. But I do think that part of what he said in his truth social post was that we are working

on huge stuff. So could everybody just sit down and let us deal with huge. huge, huge stuff like prosecuting Comey, Brennan, like getting to the bottom of the fact that the election actually was stolen and we can prove it. Like, that is huge. So I think he was clearly angry that focus was taken off of that. And this is the part that frustrates me because there's so much good that is taking place. How they handled this, though, in the last week has distracted people from.

And now people that really didn't have questions like myself, I really didn't. I'm on whatever. Now I have all kinds of questions about what's going on, Eric. And if people like me have questions, it's clearly not being handled correctly because I'm not sure. Maybe you and I would be in competition to find out who's the bigger fan of Donald Trump's. Like, love the guy. I think he is a man for the hour.

I think it is incredible story of his greatest political comeback. And not only the greatest political comeback, I mean, we just celebrate. the year anniversary of the attempted assassination in Butler, God's hand is clearly upon this man. And so all of these great things and then this thing is taking place. And again, it's distracting. Like, I want to go back and talk about Brennan and Comey. These guys part and parcel to a coordinated, systematic, slow-moving coup attempt against the duly elected president of United States. And we're now, I think, finally going to have some accountability. And the fact that that's even possible, I cannot tell anybody.

I'm insanely thrilled. Because this is, I mean, look, this is somebody who has been, imagine somebody's been raping and murdering children in your neighborhood. And you don't know who's doing it. And now suddenly we think we caught the guy. We can't even believe it. Like, are we going to see justice on this thing? That's what we're talking about, folks. The evil that Comey and Brennan and others have done, it is unbelievably.

wicked. It is destructive, treasonous, horrific stuff. And the fact that we've got people on this right now, that's just amazing, amazing news. Okay, we're going to be right back. Folks, I'm talking to Ned Ryan. You can find him at American majority. We'll be right back. Welcome back talking to Ned Ryan. That's R-Y-U-N. Don't be fooled. And Ned, you were just saying that, you know, you and I would probably, you know, we were getting a fighting match over who loves Donald Trump more. Every time I see him, I tell him pointedly, I love you. And he probably thinks, well, what are you gay? You know, it's the same thing with Charlie Kirk. I tell Charlie, I love you. And it's like, hey, what do you? I mean, I love these men. And Donald Trump, man, I, there's just no doubt that God has chosen him

for God's purposes in American history. It is unbelievable. But exactly like you, I didn't really care about the obscene stuff. It was just not on my list of no point of intended of like, you know, I didn't even know why I'm supposed to care about it. I guess, you know, do I care about sex trafficking, obviously? But like, I was confused and I figured, okay, stuff's coming out, stuff coming out.

Now, of course, because of Pan Bondi's mishandling of this, let's be honest, gigantic mishandling of this. She's embarrassed the administration. She's taking the focus off of this, and now she has people like you and me asking questions about what about this? What about this? Which, it's just weird. It is. I've had questions.

Listen, I am still of the opinion that Donald Trump won. Donald Trump gets to pick who's going to be in his cabinet. And I think you've got to give them the opportunity to have. actually prove or not prove themselves, that's up to Donald Trump. At some point, though, someone either rises to the occasion or they don't. So I have questions about Pam Bondi. Quite frankly, I have questions about Brooke Rawlins, whose Secretary of Agriculture, especially in regards to carving out with, let's be honest, amnesty for farm workers for big ag. And to me, Eric, that is one of the main reasons that Donald Trump ran and won was on immigration and solving that

includes mass deportations. And to have this kind of carve out, how do you know that it's not a nose under the tent? And then all of a sudden you have this industry that wants that or this industry that wants that. And all of a sudden you having a question about where do we actually end when in fact, I think you have to say the whole reason Donald Trump ran and one is this, he's going to solve it. And I think it leads to a bigger issue, Eric, of I understand that our economy in too many ways has been relying upon illegal immigration. We have to figure out how we decouple our economy from illegal immigration, but to talk about amnesty for farm workers is not the right direction to be going in the summer of 2025.

Well, exactly. And, you know, folks like Steve Bannon have hit this hard. But then again, it's one thing to question somebody like Brooke Rollins, and it's another thing to demonize them. And so I think that we've got to be able to have these disagreements. And I am 100% with you. It's very disappointing when somebody like Brooke Ronald's kinds of floats this, you know, sort of amnesty thing. You're like, hey, did you not get the memo?

Why? You shouldn't even have this job. Donald Trump should be dead. But you got this job. And we expect you to do what the American people elected him to do. And just to be clear. So again, as we talk about some of the things that we're a little frustrated with, There are some, again, the great things that are happening.

I don't think a lot of people know that in the first six months, there have been a million self-deportations in the first six months of the Trump administration. Like, there are things moving in the right direction that I think has really, this entire issue has been handicapping the American people on a whole host of fronts, obviously the 150 to 180 billion a year that it's been costing us. So there are a lot of good things happening. And so people, I've had some people coming back to me like, why can't you be happy about all the good things? I am happy about the good things. I am thrilled

about the good things. I just think there are a couple things that have been unforested errors that we need to be focused on to say, hey, we love you. We think it's great. Let's make sure that we do not mess this up in this situation, whether it's Bondi, whether it's, whether it's Brooke on these issues. So I just want to be very clear. Love where we're headed on 90% of everything. There have been a couple things that have happened in recent times from like, wait a minute, let's make sure we're all on the same page here, and let's just remind everybody why Donald Trump ran and won to make sure that we're still focused and pushing in the right direction on all fronts. Well, that's about it. That's about it. And, you know, because you're a Christian, and I'm a Christian, I think we want to say to everybody, ladies and

gentlemen, I keep saying it, we're in a spiritual war. We need to pray for this president. And look, who knows what his journey is. The greatest men in our history, Abraham Lincoln at the top of the list, went through a crucible, a fiery trial that, you know, in order to accomplish what he accomplished in his administration, was a horrendous battle. And this president is similarly in a great battle. And we need to really pray for him.

that he would have wisdom and discernment, and that even when he makes an unforced error, that Romans 828, God works all things together for good, for those that love him and are called the purpose, that even when President Trump maybe says something or misses something, that God will use that to refine him

and to make him all the stronger for the next battle. I couldn't agree more. And praying for him, praying for wisdom, praying for just clarity of thought. I cannot even begin to imagine everything that he's having to juggle every day, every minute of the day. And I've been there when he's been on,

I've been in the Oval Office. He's been having all these conversations, this massive flow of information coming in. I just stand back and I'm pretty amazed at a 79-year-old, able to handle everything on such a high level with this flow of information to make all these very important decisions. and at the same time, like, I think it's incumbent upon us to continue to lift him up in prayer and to be praying for that wisdom every moment of every day because of all the massively important

issues that he's dealing with. But, yeah, it's just, it's an incredible story to me. And I'll just say, again, think about where we were last year, just survived an assassination attempt. When we come back, I want to talk about that where we were a year ago. We'll be right back talking to Ned Ryan. You can find him at American majority. out while you are coming in and I'm just sitting wondering where you're in.

Welcome back talking to Ned Ryan. That's R-Y-U-N. Don't be fooled by imitations. He is with American majority. He's the author of American Leviathan. And we're talking about the news of the day. You just mentioned what I talked about in hour one. A year ago, President Trump, by all accounts, should be dead. and we should have President Kamala Harris taking us the final 10 yards into hell,

into the dustbin of American history. That would be her mandate from Satan. Instead, not only is President Trump president, but we are now doing what needs to be done. We're going into the basement and we're exterminating the rats and the snakes. And by the way, if you think I'm calling Comey and Brennan rats, you might be mistaken. Perhaps I think they're snakes. They are bad people. And you just said that the FBI is pursuing an investigation, which we just learned.

I mean, this is astonishing news for the base. Yeah, no, it is. I mean, this to me, Eric, first of all, again, a year ago, Donald Trump merely assassinated. Donald Trump, if he had not have won, they were trying to destroy him, put him in jail for the rest of his life. And you go from that point to this point and the absolute triumph, it's an incredible story. But to Brennan and Comey, I just want to remind people, head of the CIA, head of the FBI, very powerful men with incredible amounts of trust that have been given to them, massively abusing the trust and the power, engaging in what I consider to be highly illegal acts. in regards to targeting the duly elected president of the United States. Let's just remind people what James Comey, Andrew McCabe, and James Baker,

who was General Counsel, the FBI, did with the fake steel dossier, which they kind of knew at the time was fake, and then we find out Hillary Clinton's campaign had been funding the fake dossier. They used it not once, not twice, four times, to secure FISA warrants to backdoor spying on Donald Trump. Incredible to me that we have not yet had any real consequences for those highly illegal acts. John Brennan, he takes the steel dossier

and the closing days of the Obama administration and insists that that steel dossier be put into the ICA, the intelligence community assessment, to legitimize what he knew was a fake document, to use it as justification for targeting Donald Trump. These men have not only lied, they have engaged in highly illegal acts. And the bigger issue to me,

again, there have to be consequences. If they're not consequences, how can we even talk about restoring the rule of law, equal application of the law? I mean, these are fundamental issues to who we are as a people, Eric. We were founded on the idea that the law is king. There will be rule of law that all stand equal before the law. It doesn't matter your position or power or your money. You will all stand equal before it.

And what we saw with the DOJ and the FBI and the CIA is, in fact, they were used as weapons, political weapons, not upholders of the rule of law, but actually as political weapons against political opponents over policy differences. But I'm concerned about who we're going to be as a people 20 years from now, Eric, if there are no consequences for the abuse of power, for the highly illegal acts, well, then I think rule of law is a farce. I think equal application of the law is farce. I don't think the American people will take these institutions seriously. we have a great confidence, crisis of confidence in our institutions. And it's because of behavior like Brennan and Comey and others, Merrick Garland included,

who have weaponized institutions as political weapons. The only way to restore trust in our institutions that are vital to the functioning of society and culture is for there to be consequences. And when I'm talking consequences, I'm not talking about removing security clearances. I'm talking about jail time. I'm talking about people actually going to jail. so that people understand what they did was highly illegal. There are consequences for it, including jail time,

so that if anybody gets the bright idea in the future, that they should use these institutions to target the President of the United States, they're also going to go to jail. If there are no consequences, I think whatever might happen next time will be even worse. Well, listen, in a civilized society, folks like this would go up against the firing squad. What they did, I don't think people... I don't think it's too far to say it's seditious.

Well, that's what I'm trying to say. It's like it's a level of evil that I think a lot of people go, yeah, I don't like them. They're bad guys. Folks, do you understand the... If you calculate the ramifications of these kinds of illegal actions, how many people's lives are destroyed, harmed, as a result of effectively trying to destroy?

the will of the American people. This is like I say it's like putting a bullet in the head of Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam. That's what this is. That's not an exaggeration. The import of what it is to say to the American people, you know, you, the people, I don't care who you are. I don't care about your votes. We're taking over. These are like thugs, killing liberty, killing the voice of the people. You have no America. If we the people cannot elect our leaders. And that's exactly what Comey and Brennan and Clapper and others try to do to subvert the will of weeds of people. There's nothing more wicked than that. To undo the duly elected President of the United States, free and fair elections, representative democracy, representative governments.

I mean, not only was it saddicious, not only was it a slow-moving coup, I would argue they always like to throw around the word insurrection. I mean, that was an insurrection inside of our government against Donald Trump. And again, I want to remind people, there was no Russian collusion. Again, there was no Ukrainian quid pro quo. All of that had nothing to do with anything except for differences over policy. And at the same time, even more fundamental to that, Eric, who decides? And I think we accepted for way too long that these powerful unelected bureaucrats were the ones who decided. presidents, both Republican and Democrat, had kind of, you know, said that's fine.

We'll go ahead and live with that reality. And then Donald Trump showed up in January of 2017 and said, I'm the duly elected president of United States. I'm the one who decides as the representative of all of the American people, pretty much a lot of domestic and foreign policy. And they said, we don't think so. We think we're the ones decide. So I just want to remind people, we're dealing with a fundamental of issues about who

we are as a people, how our government runs, who decides. whoever decides is the one that governs. And that to me is why these are fundamental issues of why you actually have to address it and restore. And the last thing I'll say is this. I am a huge believer in restoration. I don't even consider myself conservative per se. I consider myself a restorationist. We actually have to go and proactively restore what we used to have, our constitutional republic,

our God-given rights, our natural inherent rights, to restore the balance of what we were given our legacy. What are we actually conserving? So I just want people to understand restoration is a proactive. Let's go after. Okay. When we come back, I want you, Ned, to say much more about this, folks. We'll be right back.

Welcome back talking to Ned Ryan, RY, UN with American majority. Okay, Ned, you're talking about restoration. As usual, you and I are on exactly the same page in this. We've got a long way to go. To restore the Republic. A long way to go. And it's not just laws. It's not, it's the whole culture. We've turned away from God. We've secularized the culture. The ramifications of that are unbelievable. It's how you can elect wicked people or allow wicked people like Brennan and Comey and Obama and Hillary Clinton to thrive. When you turn away from God, you really lose everything and then the devil takes over.

and we are now fighting our way back. I just want to remind people, we were founded on a common set of ideals and principles. Declaration of Independence and the Constitution codified what people believed at the time they put it into writing to then lay out the structure for what they perceived would be the correct form of government to actually enact that common set of values, principles, worldview, if you will. In that common set of ideals, a transcendent creator who gave us inalienable rights,

life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men. The purpose of our government is to secure, not to give or take away, to secure the natural inherent rights that were given to us by our creator. And I think we've completely lost sight of that. And it goes back to why we even fought the revolution. I call it the American restoration in which Englishmen on this side of the Atlantic said to Englishmen on the other side, you're taking away our natural God-given rights what no earthly power gave, no earthly power can take away, God gave us our rights, you're taking them away. We believe that we actually have a duty and obligation to fight for those natural inherent rights. And so it was the restoration. They were

demanding a restoration of their God-given rights. And I think that's where we're at today. I think we have to have the conversation about how do we restore the Republic? How do we actually restore in reality natural inherent rights? They're not a suggestion. They're sacrosanct. We don't need to have big government and big tech deciding, well, we don't agree with that free of speech. We don't agree with that kind of information, so we're going to censor it. There has to be a conversation about what does that restoration actually look like, and then we shoot for it. And I'm just, I guess I've been frustrated by the conservative movement writ large. What are we actually conserving? I couldn't tell you. I mean, if you look back the last

2030, 40, 50 years, the greatest hope we've had of restoring the Republic didn't come out of the conservative professional conservative movement. Donald Trump kind of came out of nowhere in many ways. And so I want to have a greater conversation about the whole idea of restoration, how we reform the movement, and how we actually shoot for restoration in a proactive way, because conserving to me is such a defensive position. I think we have to have a much more offensive position and strategy and tactics over the next decade. And I think if we repurpose ourselves towards that, I think we could have an incredible decade moving ahead. Yeah, I think more than a decade.

I mean, again, we're dramatically on the same page. I think we're on our way. But I'd love you to come back on the program just to talk about this. Love it. We've only got 40 seconds left here. But I would just say that it means returning back to God, that that was the foundation, all of the founders understood. And when you take that away, if you think you can do this in a secular way, you will find

you can't. You cannot. No, and I think we have to have that conversation about we were founded as a Judeo-Christian nation. There are common sets of values and principles and ideals that have to be in place if we are to thrive as a people and as a society. And we have to have that conversation. Well, that's the whole point is that once you get away from that, you can't have, there's just no way. It all spends off the axis. That's the point. You cannot have, and when I wrote my book, if you can keep it. I really finally understood this. And so I've been talking about this as you have. It's very important. Well, Ned Ryan, we'll just get you back as soon as possible to have that conversation. Folks, you can find Ned at American majority. Ned, thank you so much.

I appreciate it. Thanks, Eric.