The Eric Metaxas Show - Nick Adams

Episode Date: April 26, 2025

Nick Adams discusses his new book “From Mar-a-Lago to MARS: President Trump's Great American Comeback”.

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based on, you know, these like woke DEI kind of quotas for hiring and, you know, really discrimination, essentially, giving jobs to people based on the color of their skin. I mean, it's a bad idea. We want to move back to meritocracy. We believe that, you know, those who have the best results should get the best job. And no matter what color of their skin is, what their sexual preferences are, I mean, those things don't matter when it comes to doing a good job, right? And so we want these companies to stop putting their finger on the scale. And we're celebrating tractor supply and lows because

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I remember I was following Robbie's Starbook on X. And to see the tractor supply had been pushing woke lunacy, you think tractor supply, really? And I think we see this over and over that corporate America, a lot of times they just go with the floor. and promote evil either without realizing it or without caring or without understanding. So if there's no pushback, that's just what they're going to do. So thanks to you guys, thanks to Robbie Starbuck, other voices, they're forced to deal with

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promo code Eric. Folks, welcome back. As promised, my guest, right. now is Nick Adams. He's been on the program before. He has a new book out from Mar-a-Lago to Mars. President Trump's great American comeback. Sounds like something that I will look forward to hearing about. Nick Adams, thanks for coming on. Eric, it's always a pleasure to join you and your listeners. Well, listen, I mean, first of all, when you say from Mar-a-Lago to Mars, perhaps this needs some spaining. Well, look, definitely. I was being a little bit cheeky.

with the title, of course, because it's a reference to the Maverick genius called Elon Musk that President Trump has very wisely partnered up with Eric. But also I chose Mars because it's such an American thing to dream big. And of course, the conquest of Mars would be America's ultimate manifest destiny. And when you think about President Trump being the comeback king from those really dark days in early 2021, to what he was able to achieve, going through so much adversity. It really does feel like he went from Mar-a-Lago all the way to Mars,

albeit in reality, back to the White House. Well, look, there's no question that his comeback is at least historic, if not unprecedented. Probably unprecedented. I think it is unprecedented. We've never seen anything like it. And it does seem to fit with the theme that you're touching on to dream big. That is what it means somehow. It's at the very heart of who we are as Americans, as who we've always been.

And God's hand, to my mind, is in it. And this doesn't mean that this is about America. This is about God's purposes in history. It's about God's purposes, not our purposes. So say more about what you go into. in the book? Absolutely. Eric, you know, I wanted to write a book that wasn't just a political book. I've always written political books.

This is the first book that isn't just a political book. This is really a self-help book because I look at President Trump's unique art of war, how he was able to go through such unprecedented adversity. I mean, no person in modern history has ever been for as much adversity as President Trump. and how he's been able to go through it all, Eric, and not just survive, but thrive. Let's think about it. He was de-platformed, censored.

They tried to bankrupt him. He was impeached twice, arrested, sued, indicted, convicted. They've even tried to kill him twice, and that's the two times that we know about. And they switched candidates on him three months out of the election. He had to end up beating two presidential candidates from the Democrat side. And through all of it, he stayed true to himself.

He never surrendered. He never compromised his ideology. He never backed down one inch. He maintained that the 2020 election was rigged, that he was the only person that could win. He has a belief that comes from God. In fact, he said after the assassination attempt that he felt that God spared his life

so that he could save a mistake. America. And the power of positive thinking, when you think about Norman Vincent Peel, who officiated President Trump's marriage, first marriage, he's always been into this unquestioning self-belief, this unwavering self-confidence as a way to hack the mind and be able to beat anybody and anything. And that's exactly what he did. And I think we can apply all of those lessons, Eric, to our own lives, whether we are running a family, raising children, growing a business, President Trump's art of war, how he just, the resilience, the determination, the approach, we can learn so much.

Well, the thing is, I feel like it has to be said. There are a lot of people who talk about, you know, what works, right? And if you have a positive approach and self-confidence and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. but I have to say what is it based on? And it has to be based on what is God's will? What is God saying? Because a lot of people that are big jerks who are puffed up about themselves. I won't mention any names, but there are plenty of people out there.

They're all about themselves. And at the end of the day, it has to be, are you on a mission from God? Even if you're not conscious of it, even if you wouldn't say it explicitly, are you trying to do great things for yourself, for self-aggrandizement, or are you trying to do great things to help others or to help people generally? And I think Trump, since the assassination attempt, is more explicitly aware that God saved his life for God's purposes in history. And so it's not just that he's positive. He is positive. I mean, he's always been that. way, and it's kind of funny to watch him. But there's something beautiful about it. I think sometimes

people who are that way, as I said, it can be about them. And I think to some extent in his career, it was about him. I don't think he was a wicked person. But I think he's become more focused now. He understands that God has chosen him for God's purposes. This is not about Donald Trump. Eric, I think I agree with that. I think President Trump would agree with that as well. We spoke a little bit about that when I was in the Oval Office with him last month. And I can tell you that this is a man that is changed. I mean, it's a subtle change, but there is definitely a change that can be observed. There is a serenity to him.

But it's a serenity that's also juxtaposed with this real determination and aggression to leave a legacy, to fix all of the things, a man that knows that the time that he has is finite to carry out God's purpose, to carry out what he believes is the purpose of his life at this point. And I think that that makes each and every single one of us as Americans so blessed, so fortunate, so lucky, that we have a leader that recognizes this, feels this,

and whose faith has become so strong. If the left and the Democrats wanted to destroy him, Eric, they ended up doing the exact opposite. Right. Because God strengthen this man. Oh, there's no, and listen, there's no doubt about it that he, by going through what he went through the last four years, really the last eight years, because they put him through hell in his first term. And he wasn't really prepared for it. He was, if you can say this about Donald Trump, naive when it came to the way the workings of the deep state, the federal bureaucracy and his enemies honeycomb throughout the system, as they still are, unfortunately.

but something happened. He began more and more and more to wake up to what was going on. And then, of course, what happened in 2020, 2021 and the last number of years, what they tried to do to him so radicalized him that he now has a deep peace and a sense of purpose, as you've been saying, and as I know you say in your book, that makes him more formidable by far than he ever was before. Unbelievable. I mean, if you were a Democrat, Eric, you,

would want to go back in time and not rig the election and have Donald Trump win. Because I think his second term would not have been as effective as his first term. I'm sorry, it would not have been as effective as this second term that he now has, a non-sequential. So I think that you've got a man that is on a mission. You've got a man that understands himself better than ever before. You've got a man that understands Washington like he didn't the first time around. I agree with you.

And you've got a man that is now, he's been through everything. And it's just incredible, Eric, that despite everything that they've thrown at him, nothing has mattered. He has always, nothing has deterred his willingness to fight for the American middle class, those that have been abandoned and ignored by America's political elite. on both sides. A lesser man would have just thrown in the towel, given up, I gave it my best,

you didn't want me, you didn't like me, you gave me hell, see you later. Donald Trump just kept on going because he loves the American people. And that really is the case that I make in this book, Eric, from Mar-a-Lago to Mars. From Mar-Lago to Mars, that's the title of the book.

And I think what I haven't said very much, but I think it a lot, how astonishing that someone with the outrageous gifts of Donald Trump would use those gifts to help America. He could use them simply to make more money or to help himself. But he's using these really outrageous gifts. I mean, he is just tremendously gifted human being. He's using those gifts to make America great again. That's a very, very big deal. And it's not something that we should take for granted or forget. You could say the same thing about Elon Musk.

When we come back, we can talk about him and about Mars. But the idea that somebody like Elon Musk, the richest man in the history of the world, would be using his time to. help America. It's, it's, it is such a gift from God to this country. And I, and I believe that it will bless the whole world. That as this country does better and better and better, it will in fact bless the whole world. That's why I say it's about God's purposes in history.

We'll be right back, folks. We're talking to Nick Adams, the title of the book from Mar-a-Lago. Mars. A later she's fine, boy, he never gets slow down, but he's got the dirtiest job in town, bending low at the people's feet on a windy corner of the dirty street will I ask him while he shine my shoe how to keep Welcome back folks I'm talking to Nick Adams He's a presidential appointee to the Wilson Center

He's a bestselling author. He's a social influencer And he's the author of a new book From Mara Lago to Mars President Trump's great American comeback So when you mention Mars, I always have to say the optimism that, you know, has been at the heart of America pretty much since the beginning, is glorious. The idea that we put 12 men on the moon, it's so magnificent that we dream in this way. And Trump has a lot of that.

The idea that, oh, maybe we'll acquire Greenland, maybe we'll take the Panama Canal back, the kind of stuff that most people wouldn't even think about. I said, well, it's not possible to do that. Is it he is a dreamer and a doer, and there's something very fun about it. And I think that at the heart of all this, it's fun. I mean, I try to think what would have been like to live under President Jefferson and we make the Louisiana purchased and suddenly we double the size of our country? You know, we've been living in a country that hasn't been thinking that way. It's been kind of a managed decline.

Oh, absolutely, Eric. Look, and as everyone can hear, I wasn't born in the United States of America. I came as quickly as I could. I like to joke that I was an American trapped inside an Australian body. But when I was growing up, when anyone said the United States of America,

immediately the imagery that was conjured in one's mind was innovation, dreaming, space, just doing impossible things, things that everyone else thought just could never, ever happen. That was the American mindset. And then I think under President Obama, particularly, we really became a demoralized country,

a country officially in decline when the space shuttle was shut down. And so, you know, I think that what President Trump has done through optimism, which is a Christian virtue, which is an American virtue, this idea that tomorrow will be better than today, that has always been at the epicenter

of everything that America has done and the way that our leadership is meant to think. And so I'm really happy that people are able to see optimism in President Trump's own life because it was certainly optimism that helped him get through the last four years. I mean, you just think about what must have been going through his mind in February and March of 2021.

He knew that if he was going to come back what they would try to do to him, that they'd try to imprison him and bankrupt him and break him in every way. Yet he had this optimism that he was the right person for the job and he was going to do it. And then to have Elon Musk, another big dreamer, someone like me, not born in the United States, but a believer in American exceptionalism, and someone that really wants to carry out the traditional American achievement of kicking butt and not kissing it. That's what America's all about. And you know, the phrase keeps coming to me over and over.

It's about God's purposes in history, folks. This is not about America. America has been chosen by God for many, many reasons, for the whole world, to bless the whole world. And you really, you see this throughout much of our history. But I think we're going to see it again now under his second term in an extraordinary way. I think we're already seeing it. His willingness to take on the challenges that no one else had the political will to take on. To say, Europe, let's open the books.

Let's look at our relationship, you know, Starmer in the UK. You're crushing free speech. we have a problem with that. You want to trade with us? You want to be allies with us? Well, we have a problem with that issue. We believe in free speech. Vance was just talking about that the other day. Let's look at NATO. Let's look at these countries. It's unbelievable that we have a president willing to look at all these issues and say, what is the right thing to do? Can we do the right thing? Again, to my mind, it's absolutely unprecedented. George W. Bush, didn't have a hundredth of this kind of political courage. No, and I do agree with you. America is a providential nation. And just look at how incredibly blessed we've been because President Trump is the kind of leader

that comes once every hundred years, maybe more. But look how blessed we've been. We had General Washington at the start of our nation. We had President Lincoln at the rebirth of our nation. And we now have President Trump at the rejuvenation. of our nation. And to have men and leaders of that kind of quality, I think tells you everything you need to know about God's purpose and wish for America. You're the third person to say it, or the second person to say it besides myself, Steve Bannon is the other. But I have been saying

for quite some time, I said it in my most recent book, Religinalist Christianity. I talk about how this is the third existential crisis in American history. The first is the revolution. The second is the civil war. We are now in the third. This is for all the marbles. And it seems to me at least extraordinary, if not clearly providential, that God would raise up a George Washington, a Lincoln, and a Trump. And there are many people. I can see people cringing at comparison. But But I cannot think of anybody with the set of gifts that Trump has. You have to think of Lincoln. You have to think of Washington.

And of course, Trump is very different from either of them, but not different in the sense of his being an exceptional figure in history with a set of gifts that if you're honest, you marvel at them and you thank God for them that he's been born for such a time is this in our history. We'll be right back, folks, talking to Nick Adams. Don't go away. Welcome back. We're talking to Nick Adams,

and his new book is called From Mar-A-Lago to Mars, President Trump's great American comeback. So what else do you talk about in the book? Eric, look, this book really explores the incredible consequences that our culture has experienced because of Donald Trump. This is a president, a leader that is a first in so many ways. And I have always admired the man.

I first read The Art of the Deal when I was 13 years old when a friend gave it to me. And I was so incredibly immediately on board with him. Now, I never had an opportunity to meet him. And in 2015, June 16, when he came down the escalator, I, with his beautiful wife, Malania, I instinctively knew that he was the only person that could solve America's problems. And it wasn't easy, Eric,

because at the time, I had a relationship with about six of the 17 Republican candidates that were vying for the nomination. Governor Perry had appointed me an honorary Texan, Dr. Ben Carson had blurred one of my books. I was a regular on Governor Mike Huckabies, then radio show. Ted Cruz and I were good friends. And all of them wanted me to endorse them.

But I, and yet I had never met Donald Trump. I'd had no personal interactions or dealings with him whatsoever. But something just said to me, America needs a sledgehammer. And no candidate, no politician, no matter how articulate, no matter how experienced is going to cut it, we have reached a point where we need a figure of blunt force trauma like Donald Trump. And I endorsed Donald Trump. It was the best decision I ever made, Eric.

So my relationship with the president really has been remarkable. When you think about someone coming from another country, I was only 32 years old when he went on then Twitter. He was three and a half weeks into his presidency. And he saw me on television and he called me a great American, said that my book, Green Card Warrior, was a must read. He then twice more during his first term in office endorsed books of mine. He would ring me from the Oval Office in his first term.

I got the presidential appointment. And then our relationship really strengthened more when he went back to Mar-a-Lago after the rigged election. And I got to spend a lot of time with him. I helped develop the election strategy to really, hyper focus on young men to turn them out in a way that they had not turned out previously and because I have a cold audience of three and a half million followers, mostly young men on social media. He wrote the forward to my book, Alpha Kings. So I've had this incredible

relationship with him and he's become a man that I call a mentor and that I've admired for so long. and then just to see what he was able to endure last year. I mean, the last four years, it's really incredible, Eric. In any other time, you would think that Democrats, Republicans, I mean, everybody would be able to agree and say, that man is resilient. That man is special. And unfortunately, our country is at a point where we can't even do that.

And that's why I wrote this book, because I wanted people to understand and see the winning mindset of Donald Trump and how they can apply it to their own life. Well, it is, it is, it has, it's been so fascinating to watch him because you realize this is who he is at his core. He's a fighter. And again, he can't take credit for that. God made him that way.

In other words, he has this extraordinary personality that, you know, you can work with it or not, but the point is that you have to be born with it to some extent. And he just has this extraordinary tenacity in his core. He's a fighter. He wants to win. And it's just kind of funny in some ways to watch because you think, I don't know if I'd want to go up against him. He's not the kind of guy to back down or whatever. And he is absolutely brilliant. This is what I also find hilarious. When people bet against him, I think you've got to be pretty foolish to bet against him. Have you not watched him? And a lot of people, they seem not to have really been watching him and paying any attention. He seems to understand things on several

levels at once. And you always go wrong if you bet against him. It happens over and over and over again. When you think of the law fair that was launched against him in the last four years, amazing to think what he had to go through and is still going through, but he just has something inside him that says, you know, I'm not going to back down. We're going to win. We're going to win. And I think at the heart of it really is faith. Now, it's maybe not a theologically sophisticated faith, but it's somehow faith that the right will prevail, the good will prevail over evil. That seems to be in the center of who he is. It's not just, oh, I'm Donald Trump.

There's something deeper than that. Oh, without a shadow of a doubt. Look, anyone that can't recognize his brilliance, his political and business, Nouse, I mean, really, these are people, I think, Eric, that have just been so blinded and poisoned by envy and jealousy. and President Trump's alpha positions, the way that he is a lion in a world full of pussycats,

the way that he is just so unshakably confident, is totally anathema to the new woke, politically correct view of the world where we're all supposed to kind of tiptoe around. He doesn't do anything like that because he's one of those great leaders in the tradition of great leaders. And his faith has become so strong and he is just instinctively,

a reflexively, a Christian patriot. And that's why he's done more to protect Christians all around the world than any leader that I know of. There's no doubt about it. We're out of time. Nick, really just great, to see you and hear from you.

I hope to see you in person, whether in Texas or elsewhere. Ladies and gentlemen, the title of the book by Nick Adams is from Mar-a-Lago to Mars. President Trump's great American comeback. And quickly, Nick, how can people follow you on social media? They can go to at Nick A1 on Instagram, at Nick Adams in USA on X, and at Nick Adams in America on Facebook. Eric, you're a great man. Christos Anesti.

Alitha Sanesti. God bless you. God bless. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. Some of you know that one of our friends on the program is the Herzog Foundation. And we have Chris Stagal with Herzog on right now. Chris, I just wanted to get a few minutes from you to give us an update on what Herzog is up to.

Because a lot of people aren't aware of what it is that the Herzog Foundation does. I thought since you're here, let's tell them. Yeah, I think it's twofold, Eric, and I'm so grateful for your friendship, your partnership, and amplifying what our late, great founder, Stan Herzog was all about, and that was expanding and growing, becoming a catalyst for Christian education. He believed in it. And so the Herzog Foundation was ostensibly created to help existing Christian schools gird themselves. You know, it's one thing to start a Christian school, but to keep it going, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

That's tough. That means you've got to have standards, you've got to have boards, you've got to have administrative things in place, curriculums in place that keep that biblical standard intact. And the Herzog Foundation trainings that we offer all across the country are free of charge to people who are interested in taking various trainings along those lines, lots of different subjects. We offer over 100 a year all over the country. and if you're able to get to them, the only ask that we make of you is that you apply for the trainings, and then if you are accepted by the application, you travel to the trainings, we put you up, we feed you, we cover the trainings, and the whole thing. All you've got to do is pay to get there, and the rest of it's on us. So that's part of it.

The other half of it, of course, is if you'd like to start your own Christian school, or maybe it's just on your heart to homeschool or start a microschool or a pod school, We plug you in with mentors and resources, eight steps right there on our website at HerzogFoundation.com where you can learn to do those things on your own. If you wonder, where do I start, we tell you where to start. HerzogFoundation.com. And I know I've said this many times, but I've traveled around the country for years, and everywhere I go, I bump into homeschoolers and their parents.

Yes. And I think without exception, they are. some of the most socially mature, generally mature, well-informed, well-educated young people that I've ever met. And I find this fascinating because it's to a point where I keep saying homeschoolers are going to take over the world. Like the world is not prepared for what has been happening, what has been brewing silently because the mainstream media doesn't ever discuss homeschool that doesn't exist in their secular leftist world. Homeschoolers are just magnificently prepared to do all kinds of things, to run stuff.

I mean, in a meritocracy, it's game over. And so I think that anybody who isn't familiar with homeschool, I can't tell you how many people come up to me and say, oh, in my homeschool class, I read your book seven men. I read your book Seven Women. I read your book, If You Can Keep It, I read your Bonhofer book in homeschool. I thought, these kids are way ahead of your average kid in America. And so it's really important for people to understand that this is a phenomenon. Now, some people are well aware of this, but a lot of people, they have no clue.

It is amazing, folks. And that's why I keep saying the Herzog Foundation is a place to kind of acquaint yourself. HerzogFoundation.com is the website. And read lion, is it dot com or dot org? Dot com. Yeah. I'm sorry. Read lion, R-A-D-L-I-O-N, readlion.

Readlion.com. There are all kinds of resources. This is a world. If you're a parent, this is just, it's a wonderful thing. We will be an amazing country if we get education right. And homeschooling to me, it's the best of the best. And there's all kinds of options available that weren't available 10 and 20 years ago to make it easy, convenient to make it possible for people for whom it wouldn't have been

possible because they're too busy. So there's all kinds of stuff. So folks, go to Herzog Foundation.com. We're not blowing smoke here. It's a great thing. HurdsockFoundation.com. Chris de Gaul, thank you. Eric, thanks for your friendship. Appreciate you, as always.