The Eric Metaxas Show - Nick Fuentes Hurting the Right with his Antisemitism

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

Big Bad John joins us to discuss Nick Fuentes. John see's him as member of the deep state, attempting to bring others in on his antisemitic views. 

Ladies and gentlemen, we all know that one plus one is two and two plus two is four, and four thousand seven hundred eighty two plus four thousand seven hundred eighty two is nine thousand five hundred and sixty-four. But did you know that there's a guy so smart he can do all those calculations in his head? Well, at least maybe the first two. Please welcome your whiz kid of the airwaves. Eric, my taxis! Hey there, folks. My goodness. Okay, it's Wednesday, September 9th. No, Wednesday, September 10th, I just realized, yes.

Okay, tomorrow is September 11th. Maybe we've come to the place finally where September 11th isn't the big anniversary. I have to tell you every single year, I'm kind of pained because I was here in New York when it happened. It's a very unpleasant memory, actually. It's interesting. And so I really don't even want to think about it. But anyway, that's happening tomorrow. All right, so much has been happening that it is definitely. If you listen to the program yesterday, you got an earful about my experience two days ago. I had the privilege.

I have the privilege of being on the president's commission on religious liberty. And so I was there the other day on the commission. The president was there. He offered remarks. He gave a speech that was carried on Real America's voice. was carried on Fox. I don't know if it was carried on newsmax, but it was a big deal.

And in the middle of the speech, he is kind of mentioning who's on the Religious Liberty Commission. There's like 10 or 11 of us, and he's going down the line. And we got Franklin Graham, we got Ben Carson, and he's saying a few words. Then he gets to me.

And he's teasing me. And I find it funny. It's like, what a great honor to be teased publicly by the president of the United States, especially if the president is, Donald J. Trump, whom I love. I just love this president for so many reasons. And he, so he's teasing me. And because my show has been on TBN for a number of years, he has said to me every time he sees me that he watches the show. And truly, I barely believe it. I'm thinking,

you've got to be kidding. Like, you're wrestling with Zelensky and Putin and what, you're watching my show, but he does. He says to me all the time. So the other day, he teased. He's, me. I watch Eric's show and it's really excellent and he he doesn't believe me and he should have more confidence. I'm just laughing even. I was just so funny. But then he really blew my mind because backstage 20 minutes earlier, I'd had a moment with him and I share with him this idea that I've had, which I've shared many times on this program, that I think we should call the 250th anniversary of the nation next year the super centennial because there is no good term. The bicentennial is the 200th, but we didn't say we're celebrating the 200th. We said we're celebrating

our bicentennial. We're celebrating the bicentennial. 50 years from now, we celebrate the tricentennial. You know, those are big terms. It's America's bicentennial. So what is the 250th? And I really believe that God gave me this idea. We should call it the supercentennial. Just decide that's what it's called. It is America's supercentennial. We're celebrating our supercentennial. We're celebrating our super centennial. It's exciting. Even when you say the term supercentennial, you can kind of feel the, you know, the, the fireworks going off behind you. It's our supercentennial. It's America's. I'm alive during our supercentennial. It's exciting. So I kind of said this to him backstage, the 32nd version. And he just instantly says, yep, we're going with it. Now, I didn't believe that he really was going to

go with it. I figured he's going to, you know, talk to his people and who knows and whatever. Well, 20 minutes later, and we played the clip yesterday, we can play it. I'm going to post it again on Instagram and on X and on my website, I mean, if you follow my newsletter. But he says to the world, Eric wants to call it a supercentennial. I think that's a great idea. And he tells his staff, let's get it done. Look at it. So in a few minutes, we rebranded America's 250th anniversary to be called the Supercentennial. Now, God used me to do that. And I, I am really seriously humbled, seriously humbled that I give to the, which I am very quick to say, I believe God gave me that idea for the president, that I'm the middleman, but that this is something

for the country. And it's an exciting concept to me that we get to celebrate our super centennial. Everybody should really be into it. And so, as you know, I'm writing a book about the American Revolution. And I'm really into it. And I'm really into the, just the patriotism that is involved when you start studying what happened 250 years ago, how we came into being. So it is so exciting and so beautiful. And we're going to be like we, but what happened two days ago in D.C., as far as I was concerned, was just a flat-out miracle.

I was, I know I'm repeating myself. Forgive me. Okay, so of course then the media contacts me and they want, this morning, I was on Real America's voice talking about religious liberty. But yesterday, and this, I have to say, I was on Newsmax yesterday, but what really shocked me was I got a phone call from TMZ. I don't think anybody knows what that stands for or cares, but TMZ is. But TMZ is, you know, it's like Harvey Levin standing there in his muscle shirt, like sucking on a, I don't know, a Diet Coke or whatever it is. It's like, it's like weird. It's TMZ. And they were, of course, you know, the secular liberal media, they're always freaked out by any robust expressions of faith.

And so they thought, oh, let's get Eric Metaxus on the program to talk about this. And so yesterday I was on TMZ. I don't know the guy who's with Harvey. It's the black guy with the kind of dreads or whatever. But, you know, they're kind of like this tag team and nice guys. And so they had me on TMZ. So I didn't watch it. I don't want to watch it.

But I was on TMZ. And all I was doing, and you can see it, it's on my ex account, and it's on Instagram. And again, we'll send it out with the Eric Metaxus.com with the newsletter on Friday. But all I was saying was, listen, don't be afraid of robust expressions of faith. It's a beautiful thing. We've been living for 50, 60 years under this secular narrative that faith is scary. You know, faith is that it'll lead you to fascism and oppression and, you know, the handmaid's tale and theocracy. It's all total, total nonsense. The Christians that I know in America, who take their faith seriously, love religious liberty. So that doesn't mean we just love

it for ourselves so we can express our faith. We love the idea that in this country, the government does not push any particular kind of faith. This is not North Korea, where we push atheism. This is not Saudi Arabia, where we push Islam. This is not Iran, where we push Islam. This is a free country where you can believe nothing or you can believe whatever you want and that's a good thing. But traditionally, looking back, the founding of this nation, it was serious Christians who led the way. John Adams at the top of the list with his cousin Sam Adams. They were devout Christians. And most of the folks involved in the founding were Christians of one stripe or another, it's inescapable.

And as I'm writing my book on the Revolution, it becomes increasingly inescapable. Every single one of them had robust expressions of faith. I'm going to write in the book about Henry Knox. You know, we named Fort Knox after him. But, oh, my goodness, this was an amazing hero in the Revolution. He's the one that went to get the cannons from Fort Ticonderoga in late 1775, early 1776, completely heroic figure. He oversaw the crossing of the Delaware. I mean, he was right there next to Washington the whole time.

He was the head of the artillery of the day. He was a profound Christian, but I'm just mentioning him off the top of my head. But everywhere you go, everywhere you go, you see. robust expressions of Christian faith. And it's just so beautiful. Anyway, so we'll post all that stuff. Okay, coming up today, I didn't mention it. Today we're talking to John Zmirak. Don't be frightened. He's really a nice guy. Talking to John Zmirak, talking to Jim Kuntzler as well. I love talking to Jim Kuntzler. He's one of the greatest voices in America right now. You need to know him. Anyway, so coming up,

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It's a good thing. So we've got John on in a moment. But in our two today, we have my friend Jim Kunstler on the program. I don't like to embarrass people, you know, when they're on the program. But I want to tell you, you know how I've gone on and on and on over the years saying how you need to read what John Zmirak is writing? I feel the same way about very, very few people. Jim Kunstler is one of those people. Go to consular.com.

subscribe to his substack. There's nobody like him. He is really something. I've known him for many, many years. So he'll be on in hour two. He is always very worth reading. I really can't say it enough. And right now, a very similar person, John Zmirach.

John, I got to tell you, I really was looking forward to talking to you about something today. And I'm glad I just remembered before we get into all the news of the day, You know, like a lot of people, when I am really bored or just, I don't know, riding a shuttle bus or something, I will look on Instagram. And the reels on Instagram, I have no idea why it has an algorithm to give me what it gives me from day to day. I cannot, for the life of me, figure it out. Yesterday, I've never seen him on my Instagram feed before, ever. but I got a ton of Nick Fuentes, whom, or who is a very disturbing, awful person. I have to say, when I first heard him talking, I thought, oh, he's saying stuff I agree with.

He's saying stuff I agree with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know he's not somebody that anybody should ever listen to because he's, and sure enough, as more stuff came on board. I thought this guy is an actual racist. People throw that term around. He's an actual racist, unless I'm missing something, what he was saying. And I thought John Smirak, when he comes on the program tomorrow, I got to ask him to help us understand Nick Fonte's.

He seems like a very, you know, because it's funny. Like people would love to say that you, John's Merrick or I, like, oh, we're scary right-wing figures. And just the opposite. but here is an example of somebody who I think is scary. Nick Fuentes is a real Fed. He is a Fed. He is a federal agent. He is a setup. He is a honey trap.

He is working for the deep state, in my opinion. And it is his job to lure Maga Conservatives into the rat hole of anti-Semitism and racial hatred in order to divide and destroy the movement so that people like Gavin Newsom can be elected president. And Nick Fuentes has actually said he's going to vote for Gavin Newsom. Nick Fuentes urged January 6 people to storm the Capitol, didn't do it himself, was one of the only people not investigated by the deep state after in the January 6th crack now. I am 100% convinced that Nick Fuentes is working for people in the FBI whose job it is and who are still in place because the purge hasn't come yet, whose job it is to destroy the conservative movement and

the Christian church. So if you're following Nick Fuentes, you might as well just be calling up James Comey every day and asking what you should do and just doing whatever James Comey says. Well, I mean, look, even if even if that's not the case, and I have no reason to doubt you, but I'm saying just putting that aside. Right. What he says, and this is why I realize that, you know, maybe sometimes this program can be important because we can help people understand. Because I think it's easy to be confused. If you, if you're not sure what you believe, you can get lured in bad directions by people like this. I mean, for example, he says, he'll say, look, this is this. just needs to be laid out. The devil, there's no such thing as a pure lie. You can only twist the

truth. So the devil will always present some truth mixed in with twisted truth. So Nick Fuentes, it's kind of like a commercial where they say, they'll tell you something, kind of pull you in. So he'll say, like, I think we have too many people coming across the border. Don't you agree with that? And people like, yeah, I agree with that. Eric Mattaxas agrees with that. We agree with that. Okay, Tell me more. And he tells you more and more and more. And eventually, he takes it in exactly their direction that the devil takes all good things to twist them. So why do we say we think it's bad that we have too many people coming across the border? I know I'm not a racist. I know it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. But somebody like Nick Fuentes, he makes it about, you know, we're a majority white country and we don't like these dark people coming in. And you just realize that you have been tricked now. Now it's racial. It is racist.

And doesn't that serve the interests of the deep state, which is trying to label any concern about immigration as being racist? Bingo. Now, I do think he's a federal agent. But more importantly, he's an agent of screw tape. What the devil does, he takes one. one strand, like racism is bad, okay, we agree. You know, we don't like to see civil rights demonstrators attacked by police dogs and sprayed with fire hoses.

We don't believe in legal segregation. He uses that to lure people to the radical left, to turn them into communists, to turn them into DEI activists, to turn them into anti-white racists. Then, when people react to that, when they get so disgusting, by the radical leftist extreme that many people have been lured into and our institutions have been colonized with, the devil says, oh, I can use this as an opportunity to get people to sin in the opposite direction, by becoming ferocious white nationalist, by becoming eugenicist. And he doesn't care. Scrutate doesn't care if you enter hell by the left entrance

or the right entrance. As long as you end up in the same place where he gets to feast on you for eternity. So for the longest time, I was fighting against the neo-conservatives, the globalists, the people who want to invade the world, now I find myself also having to warn against the extremes in the opposite direction. And that's because it's not because the radical right and the radical left are the same. It's not because they're interchangeable. It's because they're both from hell and they both lead to hell. That's my objection to. Well, yes.

It's so funny, though, because as I was listening to him, and again, I have no idea why this stuff was coming up like crazy on my Instagram feed. I thought, like, I don't, I didn't ask for this, but it just kept coming up coming up. Well, I would suggest, Derek, that someone in some three-letter deep state agency has the job of baiting prominent influential conservatives, such as. yourself and trying to see if you can lure them into becoming a follower of Nick Fuentes so they can destroy your influence. So it's not a mystery. It's probably a conspiracy. It's probably somebody's done. One of the things, one of the things I got to say that really disturbed me, honestly, was that Alex Jones seems to have him on, have no problem with having him on. That really shocked me because there are certain people I kind of think like, okay, Alex Jones,

maybe I don't agree with everything he says. But for him to platform Nick Fuentes, that's a black mark in the book of Alex Jones. That is bad. That is bad. That is really bad. To me, it's one thing if you want to host a debate and you get a far right and a far left person and you let him go at each other. But just to host and to welcome one person who has such toxic views, I think that's a mistake.

And if I were Alex Jones's friend, I would say, please don't do that. And you should actually, you should actually apologize for doing that. Well, also, actually, my very dear friend, Dinesh D'Souza, did a debate with Nick Fuentes. And I don't know if that was a good thing. I have mixed feelings about that. But I have to say, folks, I just want to say this really clearly, Nick Poindez is a bad guy, really bad guy, on a number of issues. And you know, I don't say this lightly.

What I heard some really bad stuff, like genuine racism. the real thing. Really toxic anti-Semitism. And vicious, vicious anti-Semitism. Vicious Jew hatred. Vicious. Can I tell you Eric? Oh, well, yeah, no, go ahead.

Sorry, go ahead. I don't get epiphanies of the demonic very often, but I occasionally have felt the presence of icy, hostile, demonic spirits. I felt it in only two circumstances. When I was praying outside an abortion clinics in New York with Operation Rescue back in the 90s, I would feel these icy spirits, especially among the people who were there to support the clinic and to encourage women to come in and go in and kill their babies. And I felt the same icy presence when I ran into genuine anti-Semites,

when I saw David Duke speak at LSU because he was running for a governor of Louisiana. I felt the same demonic spirit. We've got to go to a break, folks. I felt the exact same thing watching Nick Fuentes on Instagram. Not making that up. I don't say that lightly. We'll be right back. Welcome back talking to John Smirak.

John, you and I were just talking about a diabolical figure. I think there's a connection. Name Nick. Excuse me, just to say Nick Fuentes. We've just been talking about a diabolical figure named Nick Fuentes. he came up on my Instagram feed yesterday. And it was chilling to me because he is the real thing

when you talk about a Jew hater, an actual racist. And you said it at the end of the segment and I agreed with it. It felt diabolical to me. It was gross. It was creepy because he has this mocking, this mocking tone.

I mean, I have to say, it's a scary thing. And you can see how liberals, if they think that we agree with somebody like that, you can see why they're so freaked out because they think, I mean, this is the problem is that people like Nick Fuentes make it possible for confused people to think, oh, Donald Trump is just like that. Or John's Merrick or Eric McAxis or Charlie Kirk, oh, they're just like that. We are a thousand percent against where Nick Fuentes is coming from. the same demonic spirits that you feel outside with abortion clinics, that I would feel the same spirits when I encountered hardcore anti-Semites. And I think it's because Satan, the devil hates innocence. He hates babies. He hates the family.

He hates the holy family. He hates the Jewish people because God chose them. And so he loves to lure Jewish people into becoming communists or gay activists. so that there are hateful things about them. And then he tries to trick us into thinking that what's wrong with them is that they're Jewish, not that this particular person happens to have become a communist, that we hate communism. And this is, of course, what Hitler did. He took the very legitimate hatred of communism, and he tried to make it about the Jews.

He pointed out that some of the Jewish, some of the communist leaders were Jews. So therefore, you should hate every Jew, including the friendly businessman, or the guy who's sharpens knives or the guy who runs a pawn shop who are obviously not communists. They're running businesses and they're going to synagogue, but guess what? They're just the same as all those Jews in the NKVD over in Russia. And this is how the devil takes a legitimate thing, like violent hatred of communism, which is an important thing, and twists it into a hatred of individual innocent people. And this is how he lures this to hell by either the left door or the right door. You know, I don't know most people wouldn't maybe remember. I know you will remember,

but about two years ago, Milo Yanopoulos brought Nick Fuentes to Moralago. And I don't know if they were with Kanye West. I can't remember. It was a trio of a trio of Jew haters. And I have to say, at one time, I was hopeful about Milo Unopoulos. I believed, first of all, I found him very entertaining. As usual, I didn't know enough. So I stupidly, I had him on the program a couple of times.

And I was hopeful that he was turning in the right direction, turning toward Christian faith, turning away from his gay lifestyle. But unfortunately, he tacked back hard. And so he is like Nick Fuentes. I mean, I don't know if I said it on. I think I have. They've had a violent falling out, of course.

They're like clawing each other's eyes out. Before we get to that, I just want to say that Milo Yanopoulos posted something on Twitter so vile. Ladies and gentlemen, it's not just like, oh, I disagree with it. It was so vile that it seemed demonic. It was mocking the severe injury of my friend Dennis Prager. It was mocking it. And I thought only the devil could do something. Like it's so evil.

So Milianopoulos has clearly gone hard over to the dark side. Now listen, repentance is always possible. But this is serious stuff. And so he brings this diabolical figure, Nick Fuentes, to Maralago to meet the president. to smear the president with this association. He did it on purpose. Milo said he did it as an act of revenge against Trump because he didn't feel like he'd been sufficiently rewarded by Trump because he thought he played a major role in Trump's victory in 2016.

This is the kind of hysterical, narcissistic, sociopathic, grandiosity that tells you that somebody's pretty much unfixable, except by a miracle, and you should avoid them at all costs because they will drag you down with them. Well, I guess, listen, you know, again, this is the reason I wanted to talk about this is because as Christians, we have to clarify, you know, where we stand. And one of the things that I saw on this horrible Nick Fuente's stuff yesterday was it's so clear how he is an actual racist. And so if you say I am for shutting down the border and I am for deporting illegals, you need to be clear that's not about racism, ladies and gentlemen, okay?

It's not about racism. And you need to understand why it's not about racism. You kind of need to understand this stuff. Otherwise, you get lured into racism. For example, we could talk about John, I know that you've written about it or you want to talk about it, but this murder in Charlotte, okay? Ladies and gentlemen, does it really matter that it was a black guy that murdered a white girl? all murder is from the pit of hell.

Murder is evil and he should get the death penalty. But not because he was a black guy killing a white girl. I mean, whatever insane reason insane people use to murder, on the one hand, it's besides the point. You did murder.

But Eric, Eric, Eric, there is an angle that we do need to talk about. No, no, I know that. But that's before we get to that angle, I want to be clear that ladies and gentlemen, And yes, you need to stand against racism. And what that means is you don't get lured into a racist point of view over this murder anymore than you get lured into it over the George Floyd thing.

Going to another break, we'll be right back. Welcome back talking to John Smirak. John, we're talking about this horrible, horrible, horrible murder in Charlotte. This unhinged madman just it's unbelievable. It is almost unbelievable for no reason. This was not a robbery. this was not an altercation, just flat out murdered this young girl sitting by herself on the subway. It's hard to believe.

Her name was Irina Zerutska. She was a Ukrainian refugee. Ironically, she would have been safer in Ukraine. Actually, I just saw the statistics. There's a lower risk of civilians getting killed in Ukraine during the war than there is in Sharma. North Carolina because of the crime. There is tragically a racial angle

to this that the devil is going to use. This was a schizophrenic homeless repeat offender who was repeatedly let go, repeatedly turned loose on the streets in a city which George Soros targeted

and the MacArthur Foundation targeted to reduce the jail population. Zara M. Donnie is saying he's going to reduce the jail population in New York. That sounds like a good thing, right? Except what it means is they're going to turn loose psychos, schizophrenics, drug addicts, career criminals. They're going to turn them loose on the general population. This killer, this man who murdered this woman, had been arrested for calling 911 because he claimed that the government had put tracking devices inside his, inside his brain.

This is not somebody who should be walking the streets. The judge who let him go was not even an attorney is a lesbian married to a woman who runs drug rehab program. So there's a question as to

whether she was turning people loose to a drum up business for her wife. The woman turned him loose with a written promise that he would appear for trial. The man who says the government has put tracking devices in his head

and then goes on to kill a woman because he said she was reading his mind, this judge trusts him to show up for his court date and accepts his written promise. On that train, Megan Basham, our friend Megan Basham, posted a video, after the girl was stabbed, nobody helped her, nobody looked at her, nobody talked to her. And I wonder if there was a racial angle to that because she was white, the killer was black, and all the bystanders were black, and they did nothing. To me, that video is everybody's shocking as the George Floyd arrest video.

In fact, it's worse. George Floyd was a big career criminal hopped up on drugs resisting arrest, and police used excessive force in courts determined. And they railroaded the cops into prison, including the ones who were trying to protect George Floyd. They went to prison too.

It was a huge thing that resulted in Black Lives Matters protest all across a country, riots funded by George Soros NGOs. I don't want to see white Lives Matter emerge. I don't want to see white rioters going out in the streets. But the fact that it's okay to have black solidarity,

it's okay to have Hispanic solidarity. But meanwhile, university presidents are saying we need to eliminate whiteness. There are courses in eliminating whiteness at state universities. There are books about the evil of whiteness. When you keep bashing a group as whites are, being bashed in America and natives are being bashed in European countries by immigrants, especially in Britain, you're eventually going to create that toxic white nationalist movement that we're trying to criticize, that we're trying to forestall. You keep bashing people. Eventually,

they ban together and they're going to go to a dark place. And I'm very worried about it. I'm worried that the left purposely releases criminals on the streets because they want anarchy so that they can impose tyranny. They're purposely doing that. They're also goading the emergence of white resentment. And white people, every time black bystanders don't help a white person, presume probably because they're white, that encourages that white racism.

And that is what tears countries apart. My family comes from the former Yugoslavia. I know how countries get torn apart by ethnic nationalism. When you keep bashing one group and say, it's not allowed to stick up for itself. You're not allowed to defend yourself. You're not allowed to feel any solidarity with people who look like you. Everybody else can do that.

Double standards never last. And it's going to create the exact kind of tribalism that Dietrich Bonhofer stood against, that you and I stood against. It feels inevitable, and I'm really scared. Yeah, well, this is why the only real answer to this ultimately is Christian faith. If you love God, you do not see the color of the person's skin. You don't see it that way. If you don't love God, if you don't know the God of the Bible, you're going to be tempted to see the world along racial lines. That's what people do. Tribalism is natural in the worst way, just like sin is natural. We are naturally fallen. We need the supernatural grace of God to deliver us from our natural state, which is to say, you know, if you look like me, I like you. God wants to God wants to come into our lives

to give us his perspective and his perspective is that we love people. It has nothing to do with how they look. So whether you're black or you're white, you're going to have a temptation to be sucked along these lines and to think, oh, great, that's one for our side.

No, it's not one for your side if somebody on the other side gets killed. It's not for your side. It's not for your side. Exactly. Donald Trump is trying to build a movement, the MAGA movement that's based on love of America, the citizenship of law and order, of people having decent lives. I mean, he's sending National Guard units to blue cities where nobody voted for him to protect them from violent crime.

A real racist would say, man, you know what, let him kill each other. They didn't vote for me anyway. That's how the Democrats would act. And in fact, the Democrats are even willing to encourage violent crime that kills their own voters. They're so committed to a narco tyranny. Create anarchy. Then you can impose tyranny. And I've written about this many times at the stream.

I've got a column right from a couple of days ago. The point is to create anarchy so that you can impose tyranny. Right now in Great Britain, they have imported millions of Muslims to colonize the country, allowed them to rape local girls, let the police. the police have allowed rape gangs to operate targeting native British girls. And now when there's there's, there's outrage over it, there's fear of crime, now the government is using that as a pretext to impose digital ID on everyone so they can track everyone. They're using anarchy to oppose tyranny.

We'll be right back talking to John Smirak. Go to stream.org, stream.org. Read what John writes, please, and share it. And wham and wham you're shorn. I tell you, chum, it's time to come blow your horn. Welcome back talking to John Smirak. John, you know, we're talking about a lot of stuff here. And it's hard because people are being confused.

And I want to just reiterate, folks, God wants us to know him personally because he wants to lead us. The only way out of this is with God. otherwise you will be tempted in one direction or the other, whether it's into the woke left, lunacy, or into the rightest, Nick Fuentes, Malay, Yanopoulos, hate the Jews, lunacy, whatever it is. God is the only one who can lead us through this in the right direction. And we're seeing a country riven by very dark forces. And we need to be clear about what they are on the left, on the so-called right, so that we don't get lured in either of those directions. And it's clear the Democrats are the party of chaos and crime. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris let millions of illegals into the country. They shut down border enforcement. They also shut down the program that Trump had put in place to do DNA testing to make sure that unaccompanied minors, like little Honduran kids 10 years old, who are smuggled across the border, that the people who claim to be their relatives were in fact related to them. The Trump administration was trying to check that so they didn't get sent to sex traffickers and people who run sweatshops.

One of the first things Biden did was get rid of that. 450,000 children were lost. The government doesn't know where they ended up. The Trump administration has started to rescue these kids. They have so far found 23,000 of these little brown kids who the Democrats threw to the wolves, and they found that some of them were dead, some of them were being sex. traffic. Some of them were working as slave laborers to pay off the cartels that had smuggled them into the country. This is what the Democrats want. They want this kind of chaos so that they can then step in and impose tyranny as the only alternative. You saw that during the COVID panic.

First, they whip us into a panic with footage of people dying into Italian hospitals. And, oh, we're all going to die. So then what do they do? Lock us in our homes, close our churches, vaccinate us with an untested, dangerous vaccine derived from vivisected babies. That's right. The COVID vaccine was made from a baby who was taken out of the womb alive so that his organs could be harvested. That's where the COVID vaccine comes from. That's why I refuse to take it. They used the chaos, the terror of the panic over the COVID vaccine, which, by the way, Anthony Fauci created in a lab with U.S. taxpayer money. It got released. on the public, and they used that to impose tyranny.

They were setting up internment camps in Australia and New Zealand for the unvaccinated. Our own Center for Disease Control was looking at doing it too. It was on its website. So again, when the Democrats are soft on crime, it's because they're really, really excited about the tyranny that they can impose once the chaos happens. When these transgender lunatics shoot up Christian churches, what happens? Oh, we have to take everyone's guns. I wrote a whole book, no Second Amendment, no first,

about the profound link between gun rights and liberty. The left lets these transgender people, gives them all these hormones, tells them that they've been oppressed by an evil heterosexist conspiracy. For millions of years, transgender people have not been recognized by the government. You've been oppressed.

Then they form armed militias, which they are. There are armed transgender militias that target Christian churches. And then when it happens, they use that as a pretext to disarm us, law-abiding citizens. It's all- I mean, this is, it's hard. This is all hard to believe. And again, folks, don't get, you know, do not fret, but just ask God to lead you to understand this. Because it is important.

But anyway, when we come back, we've got a final segment with John. We'll continue talking about this. And then I'm talking to Jim Cuncelor. he is you got to follow jim cuncelor cuncelor.com with a k k.