The Eric Metaxas Show - Nick Searcy (Encore)

Episode Date: January 29, 2022

Filmmaker Nick Searcy offers a new documentary about the January 6 kerfuffle at the Capitol with his documentary appropriately titled "Capitol Punishment." (Encore Presentation)

Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. Boy, have we got something for you? Boy, oh, boy, oh boy, oh boy. I almost don't have words. Yesterday, I finally forced myself to do something I didn't really want to do. Watch a film made by a friend of mine, Nick Searcy, about what happened on January 6th. I kind of don't want to see it because I knew what it might show me.

And I was right. It's powerful. It's important that as many Americans see it as possible. The name of the film is capital punishment. And I thought it would be fun to talk to Nick Searcy on this program. Now, you don't need to know who Nick Searcy is. You just need to know he's the guy who made this film. but he is an actor-producer.

If you saw the film Castaway with Tom Hanks, maybe you saw The Fugitive with Harrison Ford, Tommy Lee Jones, maybe you saw it fried green tomatoes. He's been in all kinds of films, and he is my guest right now. Nick, seriously, welcome to the program. Hey, Eric. Thanks for having me on.

It's great to be here. You know I'm not kidding about this film. I remember when I saw the trailer, we were at Rob McCoy's church a couple months ago, and I just thought, man, I don't want to see this because I'm going to get so upset. And I watched it last night, and I thought to myself, what you've made in this film, again, it's called capital punishment. It's at least very, very important, at least.

That is one thing I will say because the story needs to be told. You told it. So I don't know where to start. I mean, I guess I want everybody in America to see this film, but more than that, I want every journalist in America to see this film. I want Mike Pence to see this film. It's important that people understand this side of the story. So this side of the story, what am I talking about?

Tell us, Nick Searcy. What am I talking about? Well, I was there that day. My friend Chris and I decided to go and not necessarily to make a film, but just to witness it for ourselves. And because we shared an opinion, like a lot of the people there, that there was something not on the up and up about the election, and we wanted it to be investigated.

And then when I got home that night after being there and having such a lovely time and meeting a lot of great people, I didn't see anything on the television that was anything like what I had experienced it, because I didn't see any violence. I was at the Capitol, but I was apparently on the wrong side, and all I saw was a lot of people waving flags and singing songs, and praying and doing peaceful, patriotic things.

And so as the months went on and the media kept telling the same story over and over again, it just occurred to us. They're not really telling the whole story. They're leaving out the fact that they were maybe two million great Americans that were there that didn't do anything wrong and they're being persecuted. So that's why the film came about. First of all, I want to say, you know, a lot of times it's kind of interesting. What do they call this?

And, you know, if you're playing poker, a tell. You know, somebody does something and you know it tells you something about where they're coming from. And the way the pro-Trump folks in America have been treated tells you everything you need to know. In other words, if you want to know, I always think of the story in scripture, Solomon and the baby, right? King Solomon, these two women come to him and the mother of the baby. We're trying to figure out who's the mother of these two women. One of them says the other woman can have the baby, just don't cut it in half because he has this brilliant solution to reveal who the real mother is.

It says, why don't we cut the baby in half, we'll give half to each. The real mother says, don't cut the baby in half. I will give up the baby. And you know right away, that's the real mother. Well, we're in a situation right now. if you don't know anything politically, you don't know what you think of Trump or you don't, you know, you're just trying to look at the situation. The way the anti-Trump people have behaved is so ugly, is so despicable, is so un-American,

that it tells you all you need to know. And that's why this film, capital punishment, is important because we're not hearing the other side of the story. We're not hearing the side of the story of the people who were there. I know tons of people who were there. And the idea, the idea that they would be accused of in any way even thinking about something like insurrection is despicable. It is un-American. And we need to know what the truth is. And that's why I'm just so glad you made this film.

I'm amazed you made the film. What was the process of making this film? When did you decide I'm going to make a film about what happened? Well, we had some footage laying around, you know, just stuff that we'd shot that day. Like I said, I made some iPhone videos just like a tourist. And Chris Burgard, the director, he had shot some things too. And around April or so, we kind of talked to some people and got the money together to start shooting. And we just started doing interviews.

And making a documentary like this, it's, you know, I always say it's a young man's game. I'm too old to be making these documentaries because what you have to do is just get a lot of material and just talk to everybody you can. So we did like 60 interviews. We talked to people who had footage. One person would lead us to another person. And so, you know, we just amalgamated this a massive amount of footage that we then kind of were able to figure out what the story was while we were doing it. And what we found is we went along is that the most compelling thing about this was just what you said. The way these people that are decent, normal American Trump supporters are being treated not only by the Department.

Department of Justice, but by the media stigmatizing them and demonizing them and turning their entire communities against them, people whose businesses have been ruined because their neighbors turned on them, people thrown out of their homes because their neighbors, the landlord, said these are hate crimes and you have to go. And these are people that never went in the building, never did, committed one single act of violence, just were there that day. I mean, listen, I, uh, the most of the fact. part of the film, of course, is the Ashley Babett stuff. And I want to talk to you about that. Yes. The man who killed Ashley Babbitt, a capital police officer, he should be in jail for what he did.

Absolutely. He did not follow protocol. Anytime a cop does something like that, they go to jail. You can't kill someone and get off Scott free. Let's talk about that because Ashley Babett's husband, I mean, talk about the interview with Ashley Babett's husband if you can. Well, we wanted to really find out the real story about who Ashley Babett really was because she's been so demonized in the press. We wanted to humanize her. And when we talked to her husband, and he just told us, you know, what a great American she was, what a kind person she was. And as he talks about, you'll see in the film, as he talks about having to watch her be shot over and over again on film, on television, because he was not there with her. And he sees that the, he knows the use of force continuum rules as well as she does.

and he says this in the film. And none of those rules were followed by the police officer. He had the gun trained on her for at least 30 or 45 seconds before, well, trained on a spot, before she was in the spot. He had the gun out ready to shoot. And then suddenly he pulls the trigger. There was no warning, no verbal warning, no stop, get away from the door. And the other thing that occurs to me when you watch the long film that we have, the long footage that we have in there,

is that there were people breaking windows. right beside this officer, and he was not pointing the gun at them. He was not telling them to stop doing that. He had his gun trained on one spot, and when someone showed up in that spot, he shot. And he admitted yesterday, he admitted in the ABC interview. I didn't see whether or not she was armed. I couldn't see her hands. I didn't even know it was a woman.

He just shot. He just pulled the trigger and killed a human being. Yeah, and that's a crime. It's, of course it's a crime. He just killed a human being. It's beyond belief. And again, the fact that the media is not talking about this is despicable. Ladies and gentlemen, you need to watch this film.

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I'm talking to the man behind a new film that I hope you will see. I don't say this lightly. I say this rarely, but I hope you'll see this film. It's called Capital Punishment. Tells you what happened on January 6th, 2021. It's horrifying, but the story needs to be told. Nick Searcy is the man behind the film. Nick, you were talking about your interview with Ashley Babett's husband.

It is so moving. Americans owe it to memory of Ashley Babbitt to watch this film because it does her justice. And she has been done a profound injustice by the United States government. And I think many people watching the film will have the same feeling that I had. You just thought the people perpetrating this, this is not the American government. This is people who have taken over the American government from we, the people. people. These are tyrants. And we need a real insurrection. We need to throw them out of office. We need to make sure this never happens again. And we need to make sure that what happened

is dealt with appropriately, that the people behind this, whoever they are, are uncovered and brought to justice. That's the feeling that I felt watching this film. And also, I mean, one of the things that occurred while we were making it that we figured out, Like, the entire point of everybody going to Washington that day was because they wanted the senators, like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, to stand up in the chamber and challenge the votes in certain states and have a 10-day reassessment period to recount the votes. That's why we were there. So the idea that we would break into the Capitol to try to stop that procedure is ridiculous. We wanted that procedure to continue. And what happened?

When the capital was breached and the vandalism occurred, they suspended the session, and then three hours later they came back and said, it's too dangerous. We can't go on with this. And they stopped challenging the vote and they certified the election, which is the exact opposite of what everybody was in Washington wanted. I mean, look, the word is wicked. It was wicked. It was evil what happened. And we don't yet know officially who was.

behind this. But I would like to think that the people who did this, who were responsible for this, they have to know, they have to be scared, that we're coming after them. We believe in laws. We believe in treating Americans fairly. And what happened was despicable. It was a travesty of justice. It was a travesty of democracy. It was one of the ugliest episodes in the history of our nation. And it's kind of funny because that's what they say, right? They say that, yeah, the Trump supporters, insurrection. There was no insurrection. I mean, it's utterly preposterous because we don't even know really what happened. I mean, we know what we, we know the basics. But I would like to think that folks like Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos and Mitch McConnell, that they would see this film. I don't know

if they have the guts to watch this film. But I would like to think that folks like that would understand they have an obligation to watch this film and to see what happened, at least to see this much of it. Well, I think the problem here is that what people like that do with films like this is they ignore it. They won't watch it because it might affect their worldview and their worldview is very profitable to them. So you have a lot of Republicans and these people supposedly on our side of this issue that are afraid to stand up with us and even Republicans that go so far as to turn against us like Liz Cheney. And you have to realize they're not going to watch this film because this film contradicts everything that they are saying and it would embarrass them. And so they're not going to argue with it.

They're just going to pretend it doesn't exist. I don't think, you know, Liz Cheney is a joke at this point. We shouldn't even mention Liz Cheney. But I'm talking about people that might have a modicum of love of country left. Right. And I'm talking about people like Mike Pence. Mike Pence, I think, is a good man. I think he did a terrible, terrible thing.

But I don't think he's in on it. Now, some people would disagree with me, but I don't think so. I think there are folks like him who they kind of got caught and didn't really know where to turn and made some grotesque errors. But I think that there are people like Mike Pence who ought to see this film and ought to understand that the government of the United States is treating our fellow Americans despicably. It's unconscionable. Someone needs to speak up about it. And I would hope that Mike Pence would understand that he has a responsibility because of what he did on January 6th. I think it falls to him to deal with this.

And he needs to understand that he has less than no political future unless he deals with this honestly. Well, I pray that that would happen, Eric. I pray that these leaders would come to terms with this film and address. the issues that it raises. I have little faith that they will, but that's out of my hands, and I hope that they do. I hope you're right. I hope some of them will watch it and deal with this. And, you know, especially in Mike Pence's case, I think he made a judgment call that was based on ambition, that was based on what he thought would be best for him going forward. Now, that's me looking on from the outside. It's just my opinion. I don't have any

inside information. But I think that's why he did what he did. And I would love for him to watch this film and know the heart of the Americans that were there on January 6th. Well, I'll say it again. I think Mike Pence is a good man who made a historic error. And if he wants to have a political future, his only hope for a real political future would be for him to deal with this, honestly. if he were willing to do that, I think everything would be different for him in particular, but for the country. I guess my question to you is have other leaders stepped up? I know now Louis Gomert is in the film, but, you know, I expect him to be in the film.

My question is, what about the rest of them? There are many people who we think of as conservative. I mean, have any of them stepped up? Are they speaking out about the injustice being perpetrated on the folks who are being accused of things on January 6th? You know, Marjorie Taylor Green has stepped forward and been a real champion here. But besides her and Louis, I can't think of anyone. Well, what does that tell you, Nick? What does that tell you?

How sick is that? That we have 400-something people in the Congress, and we have to mention, Marjorie Taylor Green. I mean, it's kind of amazing. There are tons of people that I would expect would be outraged by this. If you're not outraged by this, I want to know why not. I simply would like to know what's your argument for not being outraged and not being leading the pack on doing something about this. Well, I think it's fear. I mean, I think that what the media has tried to do with this day is instill fear into everyone, not only to say to people, don't ever come to Washington and protest again. If you do this

is what's going to happen to you, but also to say to members of Congress, don't stand with these people. Because if you stand with these people, we're going to do the same thing to your reputation that we're doing to all these Americans that we are trying to destroy. And that's why you have, you know,

a man like Ted Cruz, who I love and respect. I've met him personally. But for him to say that January 6th was a bunch of violent terrorists, I mean, who's side of you on, pal? Well, look, the same. The same thing that I just said with regard to Mike Pence, I say to Ted Cruz, that if you want a political future, and I mean this. I think, listen, I think if you've been the vice president of the United States or if you're Ted Cruz, it's hard for you to understand. It's hard for you to get outside of a certain bubble and see things as they are.

But I will state it on this program. neither of them will have a political future if they don't stand up heroically. If Ted Cruz does not repent of what he said, I mean, what he did on Tucker was, you know, about 25% of where he probably needs to go. But I say this for him, that if you want a future, you're going to have to really show people that you understand things. And unfortunately he hasn't yet done that. Well, it's easy to get up and make a speech and to sort of say provocative things.

You know, that's one thing. But to really stand up and say these people that are still being held in Gulag-style prisons in D.C., 80 people that are still there, most of whom have no trial date set, they've been in solitary confinement for only over a year. why are it's unfathomable to me that more politicians are on on the republican side are not up in the air about that I would say to my friends Mike Pence Ted Cruz that if you watch this film I think it'll probably move the needle to where you understand what you need to do we'll be right back Must have a code that you can live by. And so become yourself because the past. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis and they have no clue how to fix it.

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story. I guess some people have written some books, the book that just came out, Julie Kelly is it from American greatness. But your film is really the only film that deals with this. Yeah, I think, well, Tucker Carlson did a three-part series on it on his website. And I think Newsmax also did a documentary about it. But I think our film is unique in that we really went out and talked to people who were there and are being persecuted by the FBI.

and by the justice. Do you think that Tucker Carlson and the folks at Newsmax, was it Greg Kelly? I don't know who at Newsmax made the film. I'm not sure. But I guess my question is, do you think that they're aware of what you're aware with and what you talk about in this film? I mean, Tucker Carlson, I don't know if he's seen the film. And I was mentioning before, you know, I didn't want to watch this film because it's like so upsetting to me. Yeah.

But it's important. And I guess so I didn't see what Tucker Carlson did about this. But what is your sense of who gets this and who understands that this is something outrageous that needs to be dealt with? Who in the media other than maybe Tucker? Well, I've been shocked by the fact that nobody at the Fox News Channel will have me on their show or talk about this film. And I'm not sure why that is. And in fact, we were unable to even purchase ads on Fox News because in our ad, there's a little sequence where I say, I went to Washington on January 6th because like multitudes of other Americans, we believed that the election was stolen. Well, Fox News said, you can't have that.

We can't have you saying that the election was stolen. I said, I didn't say that the election was stolen. It says that's why we were there. We believe that it was. That's a fact. Whether it really was stolen or not, that's a fact. Would they let you air a different kind of ad? Because I think it would be important for you to get an ad on Fox News because Americans need to see this film. Yeah. Well, we've been negotiating back and forth to them. And that's another department. I'm just the silly filmmaker. I'm not the marketing department. but, you know, that we have to this point been unable to even purchase ads on both Fox News and Newsmax, and neither channel will let me on the air.

Well, see, that's unbelievable. It is. It's just something to talk about right there. Yeah, I don't understand it. It's despicable. Let's call it what it is. It's despicable. This is America.

It's clear to anybody who watches the film that this isn't some made-up propagandistic effort. You make a genuine effort to tell the truth. of what happened. I should mention that there's humor in the film because you're a silly guy like me. You're serious and silly. And that's why I like you. But, I mean, it's kind of crazy to me that anybody who watches this. They might say, like, I don't like Nick Seriously.

And I don't like half the people on there. But they would have to see this is real. They would have to see this is not just some, you know, edited version of what happened. That you're really trying to tell the true story. And the true story hasn't been getting. out? Well, I'm kind of getting used to it. You know, when I made Gossnell in 2018, that was a feature film that told the truth about an abortion doctor in Philadelphia. And the media ignored that film, too. I mean, they try, this is what they do with films that

make them uncomfortable or upset their worldview. They don't argue with them. They don't try to bring me on to refute anything that I'm saying. They just pretend like it doesn't exist. And I think it's fear-based. I think that Fox News may be afraid of being sued by Smartmatic or whatever, whatever they're going through, but there's some sort of policy that's keeping my little film from being advertised on their network. Yeah. Well, I think it's true. I mean, listen, the best thing that I would think of is maybe they think it's competing with what Tucker did. That would be an acceptable reason, in my opinion, because he made a great film, you made a great film. You know, like, that's another story.

I can understand that. But to not have you on. But wouldn't they say that? If that was really the reason, you would think they would just tell me that, you know, I don't know. I don't know. But, well, let's just put it out there. If people want to see this, how can they see it? What's the best way for them to see it?

Capital PunishmentThemovie.com. We built a website for it so that nobody can shut us down and people can directly access it. Capital Punishmentthemovie.com. capital with an O and you can stream the movie and you can also purchase a DVD if you want a hard copy. You know, people my age usually want a hard copy.

Yeah, yeah. Let me ask you I keep thinking this would be a good thing for folks to get and then to watch with neighbors or to get a home group together to watch it because it's

it really is important. It's nothing less than important. You know, we can talk about the quality of the film to me is secondary. The information in the film, this is not just like, hey, let's watch a great film. No, this is important. You have documented in a documentary, with some humor, you've documented something that really couldn't be more central. We're talking about the future of American democracy. And you've documented where we are with that.

And it's absolutely chilling. Anybody who knows me just knows, as I'm talking about this, that, you know, I'm horrified that we're at this place in America, but I'm thrilled that there are folks like you doing something about it. We're going to be right back, folks. I'm talking Nick Searsie. The film is capital, capital, that's TOL, capital punishment. Folks, Eric Matakas here.

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Searcy, who is behind the film Capital Punishment, and it's capital, T-O-L, as in the U.S. Capitol. The tagline for the film, Nick, is everything they told you is a lie. I'm the kind of an old-fashioned American who really doesn't like to believe that it's possible, that in America, that could be true, that everything they told us is a lie. But unfortunately, in my lifetime right now, I'm having to deal with the fact that this is real. Something has happened in our country that is genuinely unprecedented. It is as dark as it gets. And we need to wake up to this, that this is happening in America and this is what we've called the deep state.

There are people that despise the kind of freedom that the founding. risk their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honors to give us. They despise it. And they're working for the FBI and the CIA and for our government. And something needs to be done about this. And the first thing that needs to happen is people need to wake up and to see what is happening. There's a scene in the film where you talk to some people. Talk about the scene with these folks who, I don't even know how to put it.

with the pocket constitution? I mean, take us there, if you would. Well, one of the things I like to say to people who challenge me on that, you know, that the government's lying to you. I always like to ask them, what was it that convinced you that the government would never lie to you? Was it Tuskegee? Was it the Vietnam War? Was it the JFK assassination? Was it the Gulf War? Was it Jesse Smollett? What was it that convinced you that the media and the government would never tell you a lot? And one of the most chilling details in the film is Derek Kenneson when he talks about the FBI rate on his house, 6 a.m. in the morning, armored vehicles rolling down his little suburban neighborhood. 20 SWAT team members with rifles pointed at his chest, red dots on him.

They handcuff him. They start photographing things in his house like evidence, like his Trump paraphernalia, like it's evidence of something, some wrongdoing. and they pulled out a box of pocket constitutions that Derek and his friends like to carry around with them to give to children or whatever, the U.S. Constitution. They pulled this out and they photographed it like it was evidence that this man was some sort of an extreme terrorist because he carries around pocket constitutions.

These are the most patriotic people in our country, the people who love this country as it was founded, and they are demonizing the very document that it was founded. at all. Look, I want to, in my book, If You Can Keep It, which is about America, I tell the story of Nathan Hale. And I just want to bring people back. Okay, Nathan Hale was, I guess he was 21 years old. It's hard for me to imagine. I keep saying he's 24. But this was as noble an American patriot as you can imagine, a serious Christian. The way the British treated him was so despicable. They didn't didn't just hang him, but they were, they treated him the way these FBI folks treated some of

these Americans in a way that when you see it, you know who's the good guy and who are the bad guys. We need to remember there's always tyranny. We live in a fallen world. And unless good people will stand up and exercise their freedom and speak the truth without fear, we're always going to have to deal with this. And just as people died for freedom in the revolution and in subsequent wars that today we're having to face this. But, you know, when I hear that story, you just think, like, how did we get here in America where somebody who has, who's given out the Constitution is demonized as the bad guy? It's just mind bending. And we need to wake up. I don't remember his name. What was the name of that guy? Derek Kennison. Derek Kennison is the man with

and also his friend, Tony Martinez, Antonio Martinez, who had his 13-year-old daughter handcuffed along with his wife and himself outside of his house. He talks about- And these are brown Hispanic people who love Donald Trump. They love the United States of America and they're treated like trash. They're treated like enemies of the state. I, I didn't know which story was worse. The two you just mentioned, both of them were. It was just, it really beggars belief. And that's why I want people to see this film.

You need to see this, folks, because this is real. This is what we're facing. And the other, there's another story. It's kind of humorous because nothing too bad happened to these two. But two 74-year-old twin sisters who saw people going into the Capitol, going in and coming out, it looked very orderly. They said, do you want to go in? They walked in.

They talked to the police. said, is it okay if we're in here? And the policeman said, yeah, it's fine. And they took some pictures. They went home. And three weeks later, the FBI is banging on their door, saying that they're facing possible felony charges for breaking and entering. And now you're on a no-fly list. 74-year-old twin-sister grandmothers.

I mean, it's outrageous. Listen, I was the ostensible MC at this Jericho March event, which preceded January. sixth. And the way people wrote about that and wrote about me, a former friend of mine wrote about it. And his characterization of what I was saying and what I was doing, I thought to myself, he really clearly believes this. But it's a demonization of people who are patriotic because maybe we're patriotic and not exactly the way they think is right. And so they demonize folks like. like me and others. And when I was there at that event, I saw the people there were the same people that were there at January 6th. These are as good as it gets. These folks are as good as gold.

They love God. They love each other. They stand up for the poor. And they do all kinds of stuff because of their faith, because of their love of their fellow man, because of their love of country. And these people are being demonized by the elite classes, by the chattering classes, the people who write for the Atlantic and the New Yorker and the New York Times and the Washington Post. And folks, I'm just here to tell you this is un-American. We need to stand against this. And Nick, if it weren't for you in this film, you know, I wouldn't know as much about it as I do. So we're going to have a final segment with you in a minute.

But I want to tell people, before we go to the break, Capital PunishmentThemovie.com. You can see this film. I hope you will. I hope you will. Capital Punishment Themovie.com, capital, C-A-P-I-T-O-L, as in U.S. Capital. Capital Punishment-The-Movie. We'll be right back with Nick Searcy.

Hey there, folks, I'm talking to Nick Searsie, who is behind the film Capital Punishment. Nick, what can we leave my listeners and viewers with as we talk about this film? Well, at the very end of the film, we talk about how, what's the solution? What do we do about all this? And we talk about the founding fathers about how they risk their everything. They risk their lives, their liberty, and their sacred honor to establish this country. And what are we willing to risk? That's really what it comes down to.

What the government is doing is trying, they are trying to instill fear in everyone, never to oppose them again, or they will be treated like the people in the film are being treated. And what we have to do is not be afraid of that. We have to stand up to these people, like our, heroes in the past have done, like Bonhofer did, like so many that came before us, we have to stand up and say what we know to be true and not be afraid of the consequences. And that's what we tried to do with this film. And that's the thing I want everybody to take away from this film is that the solution here is to stop accepting their tactics and stop being afraid

of what they're trying to do to us. And I think we have to ask ourselves, I mean, if somebody had treated Obama supporters this way. I'm here to tell you folks that I would not say that's okay. This cannot be political. This is about right and wrong. This is about America. And I really think that the folks in the cognoscenti, the people inside the beltway, these folks need to deal with this. Do you hate people who shop at Walmart? Do you sneer at them? Do you look down on them? Or do do you understand that they're the backbone of the country? So that's one of the reasons I hope folks, as I mentioned before, like Mike Pence and Ted Cruz and others, will see the film and talk about it. I think they have a responsibility. I think if you want to be in public life in America,

you have responsibility to deal with this. And if you do not deal with this, we will never pay attention to you again. Your day is done. But if you deal with this, we will get behind you. If you champion freedom, we will champion you as you champion freedom. The idea of people being afraid, it's an amazing thing, Nick, that, you know, when I think about Bonhoeffer, how many German Christians look the other way until it was too late? So we're no different. Whatever you're doing today, folks, that's what you would have been doing while the Jews are being murdered. You're doing it now.

I don't think there's any way of getting out of that. No, no, and the fear is pervasive and it gets into the COVID stuff, the COVID strategy from the government. Everything they're doing right now is feeding this idea that Americans have to be fearful of the government, of what they will do to them if we don't obey what they tell us to do. And that's where we have to draw the line. And if we don't draw the line, there won't be a line. They'll run over us and we'll become all of the nations that we have decried and pointed out as socialist hellholes over the years. We're going to become that if we don't stand up now and stop being afraid. Well, and I say this to my fellow men, you know, you need to be a man.

The very idea that you would coast on the freedoms that real men died that we could have. Are you willing to be a man? Are you willing to stand up? Are you willing to risk your life? If you're not, you have to ask yourself why and what do you believe in? What do you believe in? So that's one of the reasons I thought the film was important, Nick, is because it forces us to look in the mirror and to say, what would I do? What will I do? and I hope people will at the very least watch the film, watch it folks with a group of people. But it's very important. Nick, Searsie, thank you. I just want to reassure everybody.

It's also fun. I mean, it sounds crazy, but the film, even though it's serious, it's entertaining. I don't care why they watch as long as they watch it. But yes, thank you very much.