The Eric Metaxas Show - Pat Boone (Encore)

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

Legendary performer Pat Boone shares amazing stories from his stellar career, including performing for, and meeting, the Queen of England twice, and becoming close friends with Elvis Presley.

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program that's me it's radio so feel free to talk listen pat i got to tell you i got to tell my audience just to set them up for what we're going to discuss i had the privilege uh we were in dallas together at the nrb a couple weeks ago uh my daughter and i had the joy of spending some time with you uh at that dinner there was a special dinner and uh then i Albin and I, my producer, were in the room the next day, I think it was, or two days later, when you got a very special award. And that got me thinking about you and your career. And I said, I want to have you on this program to talk about your career, talk about anything you want.

But that evening was so special, Pat. I was sitting there watching, they had put together a beautiful, you know, video package, introducing you and your career before they brought you up on the stage. And to be reminded of all the things that God has used you to do over the years. It was overwhelming. I said, I want my audience, especially younger folks who don't know you, to know about this stuff. And then when you gave your speech, I thought, this is getting more ridiculous because it was one of the most moving, beautiful speeches, Pat.

It was amazing what you said. So we're going to put that on my YouTube channel, my personal YouTube channel, so people can watch it. But let's just start there, Pat. How do you, I mean, that, that was, that was an amazing evening. What was your response? Or what, what were you feeling that evening to get this lifetime legend award? Well, it's a mixture of feelings, Eric. Of course, happy that I was being given an award and singled out amongst a lot of other people who I feel sure are more worthy but very emotional too because as you heard me say and I won't say at all as my life was getting underway in my late teens I was asking God this was personal just between me

and him to use my life in some way that that would please him that would serve his purpose now this is when you were up in the attic you were 16 years old or something like that Yeah, yeah, about 16. I had claimed this raw, unfinished attic full of kind of junk that's in everybody's attics as my penthouse. Because my brother and I, he was you younger than me, we'd been sharing this double bed in our modest home in Nashville for years. And, of course, we loved each other. We were brothers. But, you know, each of us would like to have had the bed and the privacy to himself.

When you hit 16, you know, you're a man. You want your own room. So you head up to the attic. I understand. So I asked mom and dad if I could have the attic. And they said, well, it's just an attic. And I said, yeah, but there's room. And I can put a cot up there.

And it'll be my place. And Nick can have the double bed here downstairs in the bedroom. So that's what we did. And I will say that being up there alone, a lot of the time, I could study up there. I had light. It was raw. It was nobody. You know, people would have felt sorry for me, I guess, but I enjoyed it because it was mine. And I was, I had the privacy. So I used some of that time as a young Christian to talk to God and just say, I don't know where this road. I look out the window up this curving road out the window of the attic. And it went up the hill

and around it, around the bend. And I, and it was like an assembly. a simile or a parable to me about my life. My life is going around to bend. I don't know where I'm going, but God, please use me in some way that will serve you and will bless other people. It was a simple prayer, and I didn't know what I was asking, but I meant it, and I repeated it, and then I'd come down and have breakfast and go to school. And I just never forgot that I had pledged myself. Now, what I didn't know, and I didn't tell you, and I didn't mention that night, because I'm the oldest of four kids, and I've been blessed in many ways beyond my brother and two sisters, I love them, and they love me, and we're very close. But I was singled out, and I

asked my mama, since I was the first born, did you ever do, when I read about little Samuel and and his mom who she couldn't even have a child and God miraculously gave her the child and then she raised him to heaven and gave him to God. I said, did you ever do anything like that with me? And she teared up. She'd never told me. She said, yes, son, when you were just an infant, I raised you before the Lord and said, he's your Lord. Use him for your purposes. Now she never told me that until I asked her as, you know, in my 50s. And I never knew that she had taken her firstborn son and like Hannah and Samuel just raised me up and said, take him, Lord, he's yours. So with all of my failings and faults and mistakes all through these years, and I made plenty. And a lot of people

who know me know about them, God is blessed and used and directed my life. And I've had that sense that he had a purpose for me. Well, it's just overwhelming. And again, you know, for people, especially younger people tuning in who don't know, when I mentioned to my cousin in Greece, who I guess he's just 70 this year, that I had become friendly with you, he couldn't believe it. He thought, Pat Boone? What?

You know, he's in Greece. But, I mean, the whole world of certain generations knows you. knows that you were a recording star, I mean, hitting every, every bell that could be rung. Top number one hits, everything, movies, everything. And of course, younger people today, they would have no idea about that. So I said, I want to go over your career, because you talked about this, about giving your life to God, having no idea. Let's be honest, what lies ahead. and what lay ahead for you, you met the Queen of England twice.

Oh, yeah. You met everybody we can possibly think of. Elvis, you were friendly with all these people, every Bob Hope, whoever it is, it is a staggering career that you've had. And I just want to go backwards and let me just ask you. You said, you know, the Queen of England. So you met the Queen of England twice. Twice.

And it's an embarrassment. It was because I met her twice, the second time was when I was deeply, deeply embarrassed. The first time I was in college at Columbia University, I transferred from North Texas State to Columbia because I was having hit records and my career was taking off in an astonishing way. So in college, you're having hit records and your career is taken off. So what are you? 19, 20? 20, 21, 21, as I launched. The first ever musical variety show for a guy my age at 21 on ABC television.

And then I'm still in college. I'm taking classes every weekday and Saturdays, too, at Columbia University. And siring four kids. Siring four kids? Is that the most delicate way you could put it, Pat Boone? Siring four kids, these lovely women that are now, some of them grandmothers, Okay, so it is hard for anybody to believe that at that age, all of this stuff is happening. And in the middle of it, I am given the invitation to come perform for the queen.

It was a Royal Command performance. I'm still in college. I'm studying. I'm going to be an English teacher, I think, even though my career is taking off like crazy, I didn't expect it to last. So I was going to get my diploma and get ready to be a high school English teacher. And meanwhile, Shirley and I kept popping out these babies one every year until, well, I'm trying to say too much at once. Anyway, I go to the command performance in London. But wait, what year is this? This 53, 54?

57. Oh, 57. Okay, so the queen, of course, is very young herself. She's not much older than you. She's about 10 years older than you, I think. And so she's a very young woman's 1957, and you at age 21, whatever it is, are invited to do a royal command performance. So frame this for my audience. The world of 1957, you know what?

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and we're talking about his meeting, two of them, with the Queen of England. Some of you who've watched the Crown have the background on what an extraordinary life the Queen of England has had, how very young she was when she was thrust into the international eye. So, Pat, this is 57, interesting time in America. This is way before the Beatles and the 60s. This is a very different time. So you are at the top of the charts. You're a big deal.

You're bringing what we call black music to white audiences. And so I want to talk about that later. Your role in opening the door for rock and roll on the planet. So tell us, you're invited to the Palladium. Were you nervous? Were you excited? I mean, to be invited at that age to do a Royal Command performance with the Queen of England, I think that would be a little heady thing for a kid.

from Tennessee. Yes, definitely. I was very nervous, and I didn't know all the protocol at all. And all I had to sing for her were my current hits, which were three or four rock and roll songs, rhythm and blues songs. And I'm going to be singing these rock and roll songs. They weren't Cold Port or they weren't, you know. What were they?

Do you remember what they were? One horse, not enough. baby two hearts will make you feel crazy one kiss will make you feel so nice two kisses take you to paradise two hearts two kisses make one love how you like that queenie i let me tell you that's uh you you do you do the best pat boon impression i think i'd probably ever heard albin am i right that was as if we had pat himself singing it okay so that was uh that was one and next was ain't that a shame oh that's famous and that was the number one smash and then crazy little mama come knock, knock, knock, and knock it in my front door.

Now, I'm singing these songs. I'm going to sing them for the Queen of England. Now, ain't that a shame? That was originally Fats Domino? Domino, yeah, huge number one R&B hit. And it sold $150,000 as a number one R&B chart hit. But that was considered race music. Right, he was a fat's domino for folks who don't know, was a tremendously famous, a black man musician. You took that kind of music and brought it to white audiences. So you're in front of the whitest women in the world, the Queen of England. Right.

And Princess Margaret and the whole entourage. So I was told, because I was very nervous, and there were Rex Harrison and a lot of other people on the same show with me, I mean, major English stars and other people of, you know, very sorts that could entertain the whole royal family. So now they say, look, when you. you when you look, glance toward the queen and the royal box. And if you see her doing this, applauding you, then you'll see the audience will also be applauding. If you see her just with her hands like this, then she may not be enjoying you. But, you know, don't let it bother. So I did take a few glances up toward the royal box. And when I finished one of my rock and roll

songs. I saw her doing this and Princess Margaret doing this and the whole audience. So applauding, right. So it was going, it went well. But before that happened, I had to go rent a full tuxedo at which I did not have. And so I went to one of the rental places on high street or one of the streets in London and got the whole regalia white tie and tails, black tucks, white tie. And I thought this should. should be a white handkerchief. Nobody told me, no, you don't wear a white handkerchief in the tails outfit. So I looked for something white, and I didn't have any socks. I didn't even have white jockey shorts. All I could find was some toilet tissue, that thick English toilet tissue.

I took two or three folds, and I put it up here and made a square pocket square up here. And then I thought, hey, the fashion right now is to have your nils. I had no time to do that. They were going to pick me up in 20 minutes to take me to the theater. So I got a ballpoint pen of some sort and put P.B. I don't think ballpoint pens were out in 1957. Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't.

I didn't. So it looked like I had an embroidered handkerchief. And of course, the handkerchief itself was inappropriate, but I didn't know that. So now I go and I sing for the queen and it goes very well, get a lot of applause. And I meet her, and I knew what the protocol was to simply bow as she stands in front of me. Don't extend my hand to her. 64 years later, I'm cringing for you in this moment. Please continue.

She runs a gauntlet, and when the concert's over, she comes into another room where all the performers are in line, and she starts at one end and works her way through, and is very nice to them, thanks them. and also Princess Margaret and Prince Philip. All of this is coming along the line. And I'm very nervous, but all I have to do is bow when she stands in front of me and say, Your Majesty. If she extends her hand, I take it. And she gave me a nice compliment.

I enjoyed your performance. Princess Margaret was even more appreciative Prince Philip, the whole shot. So it went well. I felt good. Now I'm leaving the theater afterwards. and all the entertainers are going out the stage exit, and all the people in the audience know where that is, and that the bobbies, the English b lobbies,

are going to have to be holding them back so we can get to police vans that will take us to where our various cars are to go to our hotels or wherever. So I'm going, and the boppies are on either side of me, and I'm pressing my way through the crowd after the performance. And an arm from one of the fans reaches over the policeman, the Bobby's arms, and grabs my handkerchief, run screaming up the alley. I got it, I got it.

Now, I've laughed for years wondering what she thought. When she opened what she had taken out of my pocket and it was toilet tissue with my initials on it and thought I was either the cheapest guy in the world or I had embroidered toilet tissue. Now, are you, so some, some fan was able to get their hand in your pocket? What's with these bobbies? They're not doing their job, Pat. Rounds were, you know, pressing in from every side, and they were forming a line, a cordon line. And, but she reached over the arm and grabbed the handkerchief and took off.

And so I, you know, it may be framed somewhere in England. I want that woman to come clean. We want her to return. that, listen, God will forgive you and there's grace, but you need to repent. We want you to bring that to us. Pat, listen, you got to tell my audience, again, a lot of folks won't know, the biggest stars in America, you know, that had thousands of young women screaming, you know, kind of starts, I guess you can go back to Rudy Valentino and Rudy Valley. And but really, It starts with Sinatra and the Bobby Soxers.

And then it moves on to Elvis. And then it goes to the Beatles. But before it gets to the Beatles, it goes to you. You were one of these heart throbs that young women are losing their minds and screaming. And you're describing that. Here you are in London. You're not in America. This was pre-Elvis.

This was before Elvis, before they knew who Elvis was. or they might have maybe have one record or two records, but I was matching him hit for hit during the 50s. So in 57, in fact, yeah, 57, I think he was now, his career was beginning, but I was the teen idol at that moment and he was coming up after me. I didn't know that. So you're kind of, you're before Elvis? Oh, my gosh.

This is, I don't. What's that? He was my opening act the first time we met. Say that again in case people fell out of their chairs. Please repeat that. I didn't call him my opening act, but he did go on before me in Cleveland. And this was October 55, come to think of it, where I had three hit records. And the 55 in Cleveland at the Brooklyn High School, Bill Randall, the next.

nation's number one DJ had me come in from New York. I had moved to New York quickly with my wife because I was beginning my TV show and records were happening. I needed to be operating from there instead of Denton, Texas. But I did enroll at Columbia University. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You were at Columbia in Manhattan, Columbia, the Ivy League school up the block from where I'm sitting? I didn't get that. I didn't get that. We're both Ivy Leaguers, Pat. And we're both English majors. Please continue. Okay, so now in October, though, of 55, I had three hit records, and I went into to headline a sock hop for the nation's top DJ, some 3,000 kids in the Brooklyn High School. I don't know why it was called Brooklyn, but it was and is.

And so I was going to headline, and that means I was going to lip sync my three hit records of the moment for 3,000 kids while Bill Randall, the DJ was spinning the records. and he brought up from Shreveport, Louisiana, a kid named Elvis Presley. Some punk kid. Nobody heard of him, but they're giving him his big break in front of Pat Boone. Did anything ever become of Elvis Presley? When we come back, we're going to find out whatever happened to Elvis Aaron Presley. We'll be right back, Pat. Forgive me.

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Boone and he's talking to me. Pat, you're sharing stuff that is just ridiculous, so let's just go back. Brooklyn High School this is the 50s. You are the big star. You've got three major hits on the charts. You

perform at Brooklyn High. 3,000. kids and your opening act is a nobody named Elvis Aaron Presley. Yeah. Whatever happened in that guy? Well, he's around. No, well, in memory, he's not around personally. But anyway, Bill Randall knew that Sun Records, on which Elvis had made one record, had been sold to RCA Victor, or they had sold the contract of Elvis Presley to RCA Victor,

and he hadn't even made a record yet for RCA. his first record was Heartbreak Hotel, but he hadn't recorded it yet. What he had recorded was one song, two songs, on both sides of a record on Sun Records out of Memphis, a little label down there south, and was recording, not recording, but performing on the Louisiana Hayride radio show like the Grand Oleopry, but out of Sreveport, Louisiana, called Louisiana Hayride. and and so Bill Randall asked him and got Elvis, whoever was managing, to come to Cleveland so he could be introduced to the teen audience at this sockop where I was the headliner and going to perform.

And when he picked me up at the airport, Bill Randall, he said there's a fellow going to come up from Shreveport to open the program for you tonight and named, and he's a, and he told me who he was, what's his name? He said, Elvis Presley, you haven't heard of him. And I said, no, I have. I heard a record of his on the jukebox in Dallas, but I said, Bill, he's a hillbilly. I mean, this was a Bill Monroe song, Blue Moon of Kentucky, keep on shine. And it's not rock and roll.

I said, is he going to go over? Well, tonight. He said, well, we'll find out. Because he knew that he'd been signed. and RCA Victor was excited about this newcomer. So I was backstage at high school when Elvis and his entourage of about three guys came in. Lamar Fike, I think, Charlie Hodge, maybe one of his musicians, two of his musicians. And so Elvis walked in and his collar turned up and his hair long and kind of greeds and over two long,

but slicked back and his pants long over some scuffed up white buck shoes. and I said hi Elvis I'm Pat Boone he said nice to meet you and he extended his hand but he didn't shake hands he just let me shake his hand his mom and daddy hadn't instructed him and how a man shakes hands he just let you shake his that was okay and I said Elvis Bill seems to think there may be some big things ahead for you

you sign for RCA Victor I don't know about that but I hope so and he just leaned back against the wall and his buddies closed in, and I could tell he was shy, maybe very nervous, and I understood why. So I didn't keep talking. Well, Bill introduced him and said, you don't know who this fellow is, but he signed the RCA Victor. Kids, let's give a warm welcome to young Elvis Presley. And he came out, and he lip synced and guitar synced his record, because at a sockop, you just played the records, and the artist would lip sync.

And his case, he came out and he was strumming the guitar and singing that, uh, uh, Blue Moon of Kentucky, keep on shining. Well, the kids liked him. I could tell looking through the curtain that he was a good looking guy and they were buzzing back and forth and saying, he's cute, isn't he? But then, but then he finished. He said, thank you very much. I'd like to do the other side that I'd like him for you.

And he's saying, that's all right, mama. That's all right. me, it was rhythm and blues, and they loved that, and I loved it, and I wanted to hear more, but that's all he had. He had one record, both sides, and when he finished, big applause, and left, then I was introduced, and I got all the screams that night, because I had three current hit single since March of that year, and when I came off, finished my part of it, he had gone, and I didn't see him for about a year and a half and then we were both renting homes in Bel Air

and I went to have dinner with him one night at his place and I said Elvis that first night we met in Cleveland I was a little worried for you seem kind of scared and nervous shy he well he said I didn't know how to talk to you man didn't know how to talk to me what do you mean he said well you were a star I said a star had only been recording since March yeah but you had chart records and I didn't know how to talk to you socially he was still in high school. I mean, he had not progressed socially. He was on stage. He was at home. He loved

being, and all of his nervousness came out in his performances, which was appealing. But socially, he was uncomfortable. And so he didn't want to talk to me anymore because he didn't know what to say to me, because in his eyes at that moment, I was a big star, though I only had, and 11 month, thank God, head start on him. But we became very good friends after that and visited a lot. Eventually played touch football on Sundays sometimes with his buddies and mine. And we, you know, compared each other's careers off and on because we were both at 20th Century Fox after that with movie contracts.

And his dressing room was separated from mine at 20th. if by one guy, actor you may have heard of named Carrie Grant. Terry Grant. So let me get this straight. There's you. There's Carrie Grant and Elvis Presley. Three dressing rooms. Did you get to hang out with Carrie Grant?

We've only got seconds left. We're going to actually hold that thought because this is all too much, folks. This is too much. I'm talking to Pat Boone or somebody who's doing a pretty astonishing impression of Pat We're going to have to look into this later, but I'd like to continue the conversation with whoever it is. Don't go away. Folks, I'm talking to Pat Boone. Do you hear about I'm telling you. Pat Boone? Please tell the audience. Please tell the audience. It's really you.

Oh, yeah. It is I. It is I. Okay, so there's an English major. It is I. It's not me. It is I. Okay, here's the question. You're just sharing so much stuff. It's overwhelming. But you're hanging out. You become friends with Elvis. There's not many of us that can say that. Can you say that, Albin? I can't say it either. Not if I'm being honest. You're friends with Elvis. You're hanging out with them at 20th century Fox. And in between your dressing rooms is the dressing room of Carrie Grant. Did you get time with Kerry Grant? Not a lot, no, because, of course, except for lunchtime in the commissary,

and I was usually the first to get into the commissary because I was closest to it. And then Elvis would come in many days. He didn't always eat. You could always order food to your dressing room if you want it, and Kerry did, and he would order a sandwich or something soup. I don't think he ate much. He kept his physique perfectly lean, but he sat out there with one of these reflectors. He spent the time at lunchtime with a reflector making sure his face was golden brown and just frying his face.

And I did that to mine, and I'm paying for it, but apparently his skin could take it. So we didn't have a lot of conversation. And actually, the only conversation I had with Elvis during those filming days was when I would visit him on his set or he on mine. And I've got pictures of which I can show you of me visiting him on his set. He's sitting. He didn't bother to get up. We didn't get up for each other. But Juliet, Prouse, and others are visiting, and it happens to be a lull in his shooting and in mine, or I wouldn't have been there.

But there are those pictures of us visiting on each other's movie sets. He was making his fairly lightweight musical films. And I was, also mine were musical films, but they had a little more substance to them. Now, saying that your films had more substance than Elvis's films is not saying much. Just to be clear, anybody's watched the Elvis films, not big on substance. But you starred, you were in a film with Shirley Jones. Who else were you working with when you were working in film? Shirley Jones was in my second film.

I mean, my first two films were in 1957 back-to-back. Bernardine, in which, you know, my co-stars were Gary Crosby, Tommy Sands, and others. We were kids created a club. It was from a Broadway musical called Bernardine. And we created a teenage club. We boys hung out together. And we had a fantasy woman named Bernadine who didn't exist. But there was a picture of Terry Moore.

And Terry Moore was supposedly Bernardine, though she never played a part, but it was a picture of her. And so it was a fantasy, but it had music, and it was lightweight, of course. But then April Love was a more substantive film about a delinquent kid from Chicago. That was me, going to a farm in Indiana and being taken over to try to get my life straight, out by Arthur O'Connell and his wife on a farm. And I meet this farm girl named Shirley, played by Shirley Jones. And the romance ensued, and the song written by a couple of Academy Award writers,

Sammy Fane, Paul Francis Webster, April Love, April Love is for the very young. That song became a number one smash. And those films were back to back. And I go back from making those two films back to my college classes at Columbia. And my wife and daughters that were coming one a year for four years. When I graduated in 1958, Magna Cum Laude from Columbia, cover of TV guide, my cap and gown, because I'm a movie actor and records and television guy, I'm on the cover of TV guide. You open it up and there's a picture of Shirley in our front.

four little daughters. And I'm 23. At 23, my own television show, making hit records, hit movies, have siring, four daughters. Don't forget the siring folks. Right, that was

important. And Shirley and I are both, 23. This all happened in such a blinding, blurry flash. You are exactly the same age as my mom, who I'm going to forced to watch this program. And she and my dad were in New York during this time. It's just

fascinating to me to look back to think who was where and where were they in their lives. Clances at Columbia University. Books underarm. The picture on my first, second album, was a picture of me sitting on the Columbia campus in my white buck shoes and my books to go to class. I wanted to go out for football. I'd never played football except in high school. We didn't have a team, but we put together, we got some pads and played a high school team or two and got beat up. But I thought I could play football for Columbia University. I could have gone out, but a couple of pros heard that I was going to do that and said, forget it. Those guys at Columbia, there's no scholarships. There's only one reason of them to play football at Columbia, and that's

for glory. And you already got glory. And if you come out there, Mr. Hotshot with hit records and so on, your own team is going to tackle you. Forget football, stay off the field. So I did. I took their advice. And it's just as well because I may not have been any good anyway. But I was athletic. This is amazing.

So you're making these films Shirley Jones, who was years away from her, the role of her lifetime, Mrs. Partridge in the Partridge family. Just so crazy that you work with all these people. Remember Elmer Gantry for when she got an ice. I'm kidding. That was a joke, Pat.

You know that I like to joke around. She did some things even more significant than play Shirley Partridge. Oklahoma, Elmer Gantry. I mean, she's a big star. But, you know, for kids, like me, I was watching the Partridge family. I was not familiar with Elmer Gantry and Berth Lancaster when I was a kid. So we're going to hold you over because we kind of like you around here. And folks, I'm talking to Pat Boone.

Pat, I want to talk to you about the Tonight Show, Don Rickles, Johnny Carson. You knew all of these people. And when we were together in Dallas recently, he told us a couple stories about Don Rickles. Unbelievable. He's my hero in case anybody's scoring at home. And we'll be right back, folks. This is the Eric McIntaxe Show. Don't forget to go to Eric Mattaxas.com.

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But the reason things have gone to hell in a handbasket is because most of us don't don't have a clue that we have this power. We kind of act like it's a separate thing. And I go and I vote, you know, every two years or something. But every single day, tons of our money is being used against us because of our investments. So before I let you talk, I want to tell people to go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric, where you can fix this. You can find out what's happening with your money. InspireAdvisors.com slash Eric. But Robert Netsley, when did you wake up to this and say, I want to solve this? Because this is as big as it gets. Well, it was about 12 years ago when I was working at Wells Fargo investment services. And I just got, you know, kicking the rear end by discovery

that I, here I am president of our local pro-life pregnancy center. And I own three stocks of companies manufacturing abortion drugs. And the Holy Spirit just convicted me on this issue that Here I am, you know, fighting to save the lives of these pressures unborn, and yet I'm making money every time somebody has an abortion. And then you go down the laundry list of all these other issues, LGBT activism and human trafficking, you know, et cetera, et cetera, launched us into what we're doing now. And, you know, by God's grace, millions upon millions of Christians and other conservatives with similar values are waking up to the fact, uncomfortable fact that in your investment account you own and are profiting from things that would make your stomach churn.

And not only that, but because of the fund companies that you have your money placed in, those fund companies get to vote for the issues that these companies promote things like we're seeing in the news with Target and others. That's your money at work, but it's at work against you. But it doesn't have to be that way. So that free report and that there's a way to fix it. It's very easy. Just got to be aware and take some simple steps. And we're putting some free work and reports out for listeners here. inspired advisors.com slash Eric, like you mentioned.

So people are informed and aware of what they can do to fix this because we don't fix it. If you just sit there blindly going along, like, then you can get it better. It's going to all get worse. And frankly, it's going to be your fault for not doing anything. You know, we've got to do something about it and, you know, let God have the results. But we can't just sit here and do nothing because that's how we got here in the first place. We've all got to become activists. We've all got to do it.

I think a lot of us just thought, like, well, I'm just going to go along in my life and, you know, I go to church on Sunday. And well, folks, there are things you need to do. And if you don't do it, you're responsible for things going to hell in a handbasket. So I want to ask you, please, first of all, this is free. Okay. This is, this is free. Inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. Robert Nessley, thank you so much. Thank you.