The Eric Metaxas Show - Patrick Byrne and Dennis Prager (Encore)

Episode Date: April 14, 2022

Patrick Byrne reveals more about monkey-business in Arizona with the 2020 Election; and Dennis Prager has an impressive Old Testament study being released just in time for the Easter and Passover season. (Encore Presentation)

Folks, welcome to the Eric Metaxus show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m. Investments.com. That's legacy pm. Investments.com. The Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. Special surprise guest just for this segment, our friend Patrick Byrne. in case you didn't know the 2020 election was stolen. Yeah, not making that up. And the proof is coming up. Who say, where's the proof?

Well, unfortunately, if you don't like the idea that it was stolen, unfortunately the proof is coming out. And Patrick Byrne is at the forefront of that. Of course, 2000 mules by our friend Dinesh DeSuzza has a gigantic piece of the proof. It's just insane. And we need to focus on it. And so Patrick Byrne, what do we want to talk about,

today? Well, the Arizona Attorney General, Mark Brenovich, as you know, there was an audit in Maricopa last year. The audit was very, they were handcuffed by the Senate. People think I ran the audit. Let's be clear. I didn't run the audit. I wasn't allowed anywhere near the audit. The Arizona Senate designed the audit, ran the audit their lawyers did through Doug Logan. And it's going to turn out to be interesting. Doug Logan was told some things he could not look into. Some of those things have turned out to be the problem, which means I think that some of the Arizona Senate was used to steer them aside. Anyway, they were handed at September 27th, the Senate president, Karen Fan, and a number of senators handed the attorney general. What they saw as a set of felonies on a

silver platter. What they said is a set. And they told me, I'll say that there were senators in Arizona who told me you will see people that they you will see people in handcuffs before Christmas. Senators told me that. Okay, now hang on. So this is last year, 2021. The Maricopa County in Arizona did this big audit. And you're saying that kind of the deck was stacked, but it was clear to you from people on the inside, from state senators in Arizona that they had the goods, they saw the corruption and the crime,

big deal stuff and people are going to be arrested, going to go to jail, this is happening, and something stopped that. Big surprise. What stopped that? Well, the Attorney General Mark Brenovich is running for the Senate. Mark what? Mark Brenovic, the Attorney General of Arizona, is running for the Senate. There's an open Senate seat in Arizona, and the primary is coming up.

And I told people back in the fall, you'll see, I told the public, you'll see people in handcuffs by December. Didn't happen. The senators were disappointed, but they still shared with me, look, he's just having, we think he's having a bit more trouble. They have turned on him, and they have let me know, and other very well-informed people, including someone from within Mark Brenovitch's circle, has now let me know that Brenavich is going to do nothing. And his calculation is he thinks he's in the lead for the primary, and the money is coming in good, and he thinks he's in the lead. And he's going to upset the. that if he goes ahead and gets and triggers this huge scandal, which may unravel Arizona,

and may unravel it. And he's decided he's going to fake it and stretch out as long as he can and do nothing. Mark Vernovich. And he's coming from someone inside his campaign, wants to be the next senator from the state of Arizona. And because of that, he's basically telling America drop dead. We don't care about voter fraud. I'm not going to do my job. I'm going to shovel it, you know, into the corner, into the dark, and I'm going to run out the clock so I can be senator from Arizona. But the thing is, Patrick Byrne, people like you and me, we're going to talk about this, and people in Arizona are going to understand that Mark Vernovich does not have their concerns

at the forefront of his agenda. He has his power and his career at the forefront of his agenda, which is how we got into this mess in the first place. Exactly, through a whole layer of weenies like that. This is the guy who went on YouTube with a video of himself doing nunchucks, rather amateurishly, if I may critique, but doing nunchucks, I guess, to illustrate what a badass he is, and he turns out to be a paper tiger. He's done nothing.

Not only has he done nothing, he's decided to do nothing, but just stretch things out for the cosmetics, and he's not going to do anything. because it will interfere with his Senate race, he believes. But if he just plays it safe, he's going to get there. But this is basically, you know, this is like an old, they've been old Hollywood movies of the corruption, right? I mean, if you think of Mr. Smith goes to Washington, everybody in America should see that film every year or two. Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

And just to show that it's been this way from the beginning. You have good guys and bad guys. And if the good guys are not willing to fight, corruption wins the day. It's the default mode of the human race. We're sinners. And unless good people are willing to step up when you have the opportunity. In a lot of countries, you don't have the opportunity to step up. But in this country, you have the opportunity to step up and to say the emperor has no clothes.

That is corrupt. He needs to do this. Let's put pressure on him to do this. And we're going to do that with Mark Vernovich. But I have to tell you, if this is his instinct, does he not really? realize he's one of the bad guys? I guess he doesn't realize that or doesn't care? His parents fled communism in Eastern Europe and came to the United States, which gave me great hope that he would understand this is a communist revolution taking over our country. He has a key

role in history to just do his job. Just do your job for six months, boom, and he can't bring himself or he's been bought off or promised something. I know the Rhino Republicans of Arizona went to town. They went to town. You know, a picture just emerged a couple weeks ago of him standing in somebody's backyard having, you know, hot dogs and beers with a bunch of the people we thought he was investigating. Well, no, there were people in there were people in there close to the people we thought he was investigating. It seemed way too chummy. Did you hear about this picture that emerged just a couple of weeks ago, looking up? And so he was in the stand in the backyard with at least one guy who we thought he had under investigation.

People simply need to do their jobs. This is what I find so fascinating is that you're, I mean, they get confused because they get drunk with the power and they forget that that power was given to them, lended to them by the people of Arizona, by the voters. We say, we're going to, we're too busy to do this. So we're going to hire you temporarily to do our will, the will of the people. And if you don't do that, we're going to throw you out. But in this case, something like a carpenter. It's something like hiring a carpenter or a plumber.

And, you know, I'm always polite when I hire a plumber to do something. He knows how to do things I don't. I'm polite and everything, but I don't let the relationship get upside down. I don't start thinking he's my boss. They have started to think that they're our boss. They're going to raise your children, how they want to raise them. They're going to indoctrinate them in fake history and bad ideology. They're going to tell you what car to drive.

They're going to tell you everything. I've lived in this kind of a society. Americas, you don't know what you have until it's gone. And when this is gone, there's really two free countries left in the world, the U.S. and Mexico, in terms of at least COVID restrictions. The U.S. and Mexico are really, you know, the world has built the apparatus of tyranny. And if the light goes out here, it goes out for the world. Well, that's something I've been talking about for a few years.

And I really think some people are finally waking up and realizing, you know what, I didn't agree with that. but I kind of get that now. So just we've got a minute or so left, the Maricopa County audit, you are saying that they found corruption, that it was kind of open. Doug Logan has come out,

just in recent weeks, he started to get more open about what he really found. At a 2.1 million ballots, there's 740,000 that don't have a legal chain of title. That don't have a chance. A third of the ballots don't have a chain of title. 740,000.

And this is only in Arizona. No, just Maricopa. Just Maricopa County. Yeah. So that's a crime. For them, okay, even if some of those ballots are good, it's a crime not to keep the records. It's a crime not to keep the records. But setting that aside, when you haven't kept the records, it's because they've injected hundreds of thousands of fake votes.

And the Dinesh D'Souza movie, everything we said about Georgia is true. It is proven by that movie in Arizona, Wisconsin. in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Utatus, Mutantis, mutantes. It's just astonishing. Now, Mark Vernovich, who thinks he's going to be the next senator from Arizona, is he a Republican or a Democrat? He's a Republican.

He's a Republican. Oh, he's one of those Republicans. What do they call them? Rhinos. Actually, Rino's is too good of a name. He's actually straddled the line. So far in his career, he has straveled the line between being a, a good Republican and I'm so sorry to hear this but we need to know the truth. Thank you so much to our friend Patrick Byrne. Thank you.

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much fun talking to Dennis that I just know the rest of the day is going to be a bummer, but by God's grace, I will get through it. Dennis Prager, my friend, welcome. That may be the greatest introduction I have. It's absolute, it's utter truth. It's utter truth because you, you, there's just something about your personality that we click. I have fun with you. Sometimes too much fun and people have to have to reel us back in, a reel me back in. Okay, let me just start out. The reason you're on this program, there's a lot of stuff I want to talk about here. First of all, you're on this program because you've got a new book out called the rational Passover Hagada.

I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly. The rational Passover Hagata. Now, I've got a lot to say because I don't really want to give you a chance to talk. Here's the issue, all right? The copy that I was sent is a publishing screw-up. The printer, okay? The printer, the front of the book is the back. of the book and you open up the book. People can see if they're watching this online.

The front of the book is the back of the book and you sent me a bum copy and I just want to know why would you do a thing like that? Well, I would send you a bum copy just to get your reaction. Yeah. But as it happens, as a scholar of antiquity like you should know, Hebrew goes right to left. Come on, you're just saying that. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Can I tell you? My other books do go left to right. Anyway, it takes a person about 30 seconds to get used to it. And of course, it's overwhelmingly in English. However, the complete Hebrew is there as well so that people who do know Hebrew can use it for the Passover Seder. Many Christians now practices Sater. Jesus is said to have said, I think in the New Testament, there are Christians who disagree with me.

They think it was the night before or the night after. But in any event, it was a a Passover meal. So the Passover Seder is the oldest holiday in the world, arguably the most important. Wait a minute. Older than Kwanza? Such a good point. I never was challenged with Kwanza. I have to rethink by position. Kwanza is ancient. It's like pre-Nubian. It's like 5,000 years ago. Do you know that they had the ability to fly? Did you know this back? Yes. I didn't know that. Well, you're melanin deprived and you don't know anything. think. Let me talk to you about your book. It's called Dennis Prager, the rational Passover Hagata, and we've got to be honest, ladies and gentlemen, I knew that it's intentionally

printed backwards. We say backwards, because we, who live in America, who read from left to right, when we're confronted with something like this, it looks like the printer made a mistake. I have had my own books messed up like this, and you go, wow, what a screw up. But this book is intentionally printed because you're trying to emphasize that Hebrew goes right to left. And Dennis, you've made your point. Can we move on? Yes, I just want to explain the title. As you know, I've been working on a five-volume commentary on the first five books of the Bible, and it's called The Rational Bible. Genesis, Exodus, are out. Deuteronomy is coming out at the end of the year before Christmas. And,

This is, therefore, it's taken from the title of my Bible commentary, The Rational Passover Hagata, is part of the Rational Bible series. Now, when you say, you know, I've got issues, everything you say could be a show. You call these books, it's the Rational Bible. That's like compassionate conservatism. Like, do you really need to apologize? You know, do you need to make the statement?

Like, I know you think conservatives are monsters, so we're going to call it compassionate conservative. Thank you, Marvin Olasky. Thank you, George W. Bush. Do you have to say the rational as though everybody's thinking the Bible's irrational? Is that your game, Dennis Prigar? Yeah, to a certain extent it is. I think that one of the reasons that we have in a biblically illiterate, worse than illiterate, apathetic population, is that they dismiss religion in general and the Bible specifically as irrational. And the other reason I use the term, is that I only use reason to make my points.

I never ask people to take anything on faith. This, I believe, my vehicle to God has not been through emotion, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Just Dennis Prager's vehicle to God is reason, not emotion, not mysticism. I don't have a mystical bone in my body. I wish I did, by the way. I envy people who have a mystical bone

or many mystical bones in their body. They're probably richer in some way. Even a mystical sinew would be good enough, right? One sinew, correct. One lousy sinew, come on. Well, look, I always, you know, I communicate by joking too much. But when you say what you just said, this is, of course, always been an issue for me. And my new book is Atheism Dead.

That's effectively the subject of the book. The idea that not only are faith and reason compatible, not only are they compatible, but the faith in the God of the Bible and entrusting the Bible is the height of rationality and sanity. And I think because we do live in a world where the opposite is maintained so often, it is important that we say this again and again and again. And so even though I tease you, I think calling it the rational Bible and the rational Passover Hagata is important. I want to talk to you more about the Passover and about your idea behind this. Now, you said that Jesus conducted a Passover Seder. So are you saying Jesus was a Jew? I want to get this straight because I'm pretty sure he was a Christian.

I never know what's going to come on. And I really, I'm a little confused. Now you're claiming Jesus, whoa, Jesus is a Jew. He's one of you. A religious Jew. a religious Jew. I'm pretty sure he was Greek from the island of Sepulonia. That's right.

Exactly. All right, I think this program is done, Albin. Can we wrap it up here? Oh, God, I never know. You know, it's so important, folks, to listen to every word when you're interviewed by Eric Metaxus, because you have no idea what he'll sneak in. And that was a perfect one. That was a good example, I have to tell you.

You have no idea. By the way, I just want to say on the real. reason issue. Here is a Chesterton, I don't know if he actually said it, but it's attributed to him. When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing, they believe in anything.

And I could prove this. The only people who say men give birth are people who don't take the Bible seriously. The people who take the Bible seriously actually have a rational view of which sex gives birth. Yes. People

who take the Bible seriously believe in science medicine, actually. That's right. Yep. You know, this is funny. You may remember, I think it was either Annie Hall or Manhattan where Woody Allen is standing in line in a movie theater. Do you remember this one? This is like a famous thing. I read very well. Go on. And somebody in front of him, this is like the classic, you know, the 70s, Woody Allen's heyday. You have two New York intellectuals in line or online, as we say New York, arguing about something. And one of them is being very pretentious and talking about Marshall McLuhan's views of media or something like that. And Woody Allen is

so annoyed at this pretentious person making the point. He says, excuse me, we have Marshall McLuhan right here and he pulls him out. I'll never forget that. The real Marshall McLuhan. Okay. The reason I'm saying this is because I had an incident like this flying back from, I spoke in Albuquerque, had to fly through Chicago, the plane was delayed in Chicago. Thank you very much, American Airlines. and I'm standing there about to board the plane. I'm not making this up. This is like, I'd have a movie. Right behind me, I hear two people in their late 20s,

and the guy says, I have just spoken four times in Albuquerque on how faith and reason or faith and science are utterly compatible. But I hear a guy behind me say, I'm a science guy. I know that faith and science are totally incompatible. Like I hear this behind me. and I wheel around, and I have a conversation with this person who is, I think he was drunk. But I would argue, Dennis, and we've got more time to get into this, but I would argue that this is the issue of our time, which is why I rejoice that you have written the rational Bible and the rational Passover Hagata,

because this is the issue of our time, and it's being challenged, it's almost more preposterously every day. Well, the issue, I knew this in my 20s when I wrote my first book, the issue is God. And I mean specifically the God of the Bible. A lot of people believe in God, but they don't believe in the same thing I do. Whenever somebody says I believe in God, if I want to get into a conversation with them, I will ask them one question. The God you believe in, did this God give the Ten Commandments? and if they say no

then I respect them I may even love them but we don't believe in the same God my God and Eric Metaxus' God gave the Ten Commandments whatever other beliefs we have that is another issue and not a problematic issue to me

but if you don't believe God revealed his moral will then the God you believe in you made up ladies and gentlemen I'm talking to Dennis Prager And in the next segment, I will try to shut up more and let Dennis talk more. And I will succeed by the grace of God.

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people who are watching this, and I tell everybody to go to my website, EricMetax.com, sign up for the newsletter so we can send you these videos, because they can see, I'm in a gorgeous studio, and you are in your new studio. Is this the new studio for Salem News Channel.com? Is that where you are? That's correct. Yes, so people can watch my show now, and I finally have a beautiful setting, and it's worth watching.

I like, who decided to put that plate? next to you. It's like that's a feminine touch. Was that Sue, like you need something here to soften you? That is hilarious. It was my producer who has a very strong feminine side. It was his idea. You need to play. His idea to put a dish there. You need to play. It'll soften

you because some people think of you as harsh. Your book, the new book is called The Rational Passover Hagata. Now you've written all these books, The Rational Bible. For whom did you write this book. And you know, it's like a half-joke question because I know in a way what your answer is.

Right. I know you know my answer, but the question is very serious and very important. Literally everyone. I deal in the book with the biggest issues of life because the Passover raises it. So, for example, I have a lot of little essays in there so that people will have substantive things to talk about if they read it together. And one of them is this, if God took the Jews out of Egypt, why didn't he take them out of Europe? I mean, everybody, certainly every Jew has asked that question, but they don't ask it out loud. Or they certainly not going to discuss it at the Passover Seder. But that's the elephant in the room. And it's the elephant in the room for Christians.

If God did X for, you know, if Jesus cured the blind, why doesn't God cure the blind today? I mean, everybody can ask this. And it's a completely legitimate question, and I deal with it. Why doesn't God solve all the problems of evil? That's essentially it. But that's an example of one of the many issues I raise and discuss in this book. So that's why it's for everybody, literally everybody. It's very specific.

I mean, you have stuff in here about the meal itself. I just flipped open to a page, Maror. Did I pronounce that correctly? Bitter herb. Yes, Maror. bitter herbs. And it says all present should take a jayet, olive-sized piece of Mahor, dip it into the haroset, make the blessing,

and eat. This is going step by step through the sater. That's right. You can actually create your own sater with this if you want. You could read it in the middle of February. It doesn't matter. It's to be read at any time, but many Christians are now having a sater. And I think that's a great, great development. One of my great laments, and it's a big theme in the book, is rituals have kept Jews alive for 3,500 years. And America may not survive because its rituals are dead. Oh. There's no more July 4th, no more memorial day. You know you're speaking my language.

I'm sure I am. But this is, this is, in every segment I'm going to refer to one of my books. In my book, if you can keep it, I talk about this issue, that that is exactly what's happened in the last 50 years since the 60s, and I know you agree violently. We have dispensed more and more and more with these traditions and rituals, and it is fatal to a culture, to a people. To survive 3,000 years, 2,000 of them outside of their own land. America may not survive 300 years inside its own land. and the ritual issue is a major reason. July 4th used to be a big day. Now it's hot dogs and barbecue.

Memorial Day used to visit the grave sites of those who died protecting this country. Veterans Day likewise. Thanksgiving has become Turkey Day. That's if it's anything. If the left has its way, it will be genocide day. But on a positive note, no, but seriously, this is all true. I have talked about this a lot over the last number of years because I realized that something happened in the 60s.

You know, that's the inflection point, roughly speaking in the culture. That's correct. Where we basically said America bad, patriotism bad, God probably doesn't exist. And let's see how it goes. And we are now facing cultural Marxism in America, tyranny, you know, all that good stuff that happens if you turn you back on God, just saying. Oh, you're right. It's,

that's, so I just want to get back to that theme. Rituals are, are so essential. So that's one of the, another theme that I deal with in the book. That's why I mentioned, why are many Christians having a Seder? Because Christian life has been denuded of ritual in many ways. Absolutely. Some, some denominations, you're right, yeah. Yes, I'll give you an example that really bothers me and half my listeners who agree with me

on virtually everything. Don't agree with me on this. Right. You should dress up to go to church. For crying out loud and get a haircut. It's a matter with you. I don't care about the haircut. I care about what they wear. Dennis, I can actually argue

both sides of this. I could argue both sides of this because I think I mean basically It's a ritual. Getting dressed nicely is a ritual that has been lost. One of my favorite books in the world is called Chance or the Dance. by Tom Howard. I dedicate my new book to him, and he deals with this issue. Human beings are created

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To use the promo code, Eric. Well, my daddy left home when I was three and it didn't leave much. Tomorrow and me, just this old guitar and an empty bottle of boo. I don't blame. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Dennis Prager, who has written a book called The Rational Passover Hagada. Now, you know, on the surface, doesn't sound like a book that you might want to get. I think you're wrong.

I think, Dennis, you have done something here that is very, very important, specifically for Christians. Obviously, I'm a Christian, although you claim Jesus was a Jew. I'm very confused. But there's a page in here. It says the Jews began as primitive as all other peoples. Don't you mean to say the Jews began as primitively as all other peoples? That's a riot. No, the primitive there is a noun, and you're using it as an adverb

because it modifies a began. All right, you know what? I'm going to let that go. I'm going to let that go. But talk about the concept, when you say the Jews began as primitive. That, by the way, again, that's in the liturgy. I am explaining what this phenomenal 2,000-year work. Maybe it's older.

What it says. And it says a lot of non-Jews don't know this. The Jewish belief, and it's in the Bible itself, is you're not special. I chose you, but not because you're special. The Torah is special. The Ten Commandments are special. My teachings are special. If you carry them, you'll be special.

In fact, anybody will be. So we started out no better than anybody else. It was just what we got at Mount Sinai that raised us above any other nation in any way. That's the point. And we have to make this theological point over and over and over again. if God chooses you, the whole point is it is a burden. It is a terrible burden.

It is a blessing and a great burden to be chosen by God. Anytime God chooses any of us individually to do anything or whatever it is, it's not like, yippee, you don't click. You're, hey, we're chosen. You're not. No, on the contrary, it is a sobering thing. And the story of the Jews through history is that story. I just read a book on the plane.

I mentioned I was in Albuquerque, coming back from Albuquerque, that purports to identify the Pharaoh of the Exodus. Do you ever talk about that or think about that? I'm fascinated with corroborating, you know, the biblical narrative with extra-biblical history. Whether it was Ramsey's 2, for example? This, the person... Is that the theory? No, there's many theories. But I just find it fascinating generally to learn the history.

history of the Egyptian dynasties, and to begin to think about it, again, rationally, and to say that this is not folktale, this happened, there are extra-biblical evidences for what happened, because there are plenty of people, liberal theological scholars, who they'd like to see the story of the Exodus as the founding myth of some people called the Jews. That's right. That's what they want to say. Among other things, the names are contemporaneous with the events. But I have a bigger argument for the authenticity,

especially of the five books of Moses, the Torah. If Jews made it up, they would have depicted themselves far more positively than they're depicted in their own Bible. Nobody makes up an ignoble past. the Jews get out of Egypt, the Exodus take place, and what do they do right away, they build a golden calf? Why would they make that up? Who makes up a history that makes you look awful? But wait a second.

You asked this question, you're asking a rhetorical question, but we have to be clear. We have to answer the question, Dennis, because not everybody knows this. If you know the history of ancient peoples, and you know the history and the literature of ancient peoples, You know that in fact, no ancient people ever, ever, ever, ever tells stories about themselves that are true and negative. They do not do that.

I was literally in Central Park yesterday, passing Cleopatra's needle, which was created in 1600 BC. And the verbiage on there, it's like blowing smoke times a thousand. There's nothing negative. It's about it. No ancient people, except for the Jews. Jews ever told the truth, including, you know, the good, the bad, and the ugly. But most people, if you don't know history, you wouldn't know that. You wouldn't know that it's extraordinary. It's singular.

Bless you. That's right. That's my biggest single argument for the authenticity of the text. I mean, the idea that they were in slavery, that all these things happened, yeah, there's no ancient people. Why is it that the Jews told those stories on themselves? themselves. Why did they have, I mean, actually we get back to the word, they had a rational, we could say today, scientific view of everything that other ancient peoples didn't have. That has to come from God because you don't see it in evidence even slightly anywhere else. That's my argument. That's exactly right. That's why I'm animated to write these commentaries. I will tell you as well that writing this, the hardest project of my life, I might add,

And obviously I couldn't do it if I weren't fluent in biblical Hebrew, which is a gift that I got early in my life and then pursued. But I want you to know how helpful it has been during these terrible years of the lockdowns and the hatred and the riots. It's so peace-giving to immerse yourself in texts that you believe ultimately are divine. So as hard as the work is, it is five times more rewarding. Do you make your lovely wife Sue at home call you the Rebbe or something? Because you're basically a rabbi who has a radio show.

Does Sue call you the Rebbe? Just tell me, because nobody's listening. That is hilarious. Rebbe, actually, most of the time she calls me honey. Honey? That is so. I know. It's very biblical. I'm very fine of your wife.

She's a good kid. I know you are. Well, you know what? I have a motto. They come for Dennis and they stay for Sue. That is very good. That's excellent. All right, look, we've got one more segment, unfortunately just one more short segment with my friend Dennis Prager. Folks, the book is The Rational Passover Hagada.

This might be a good time of year to get a copy of the rational Passover Haggada. because we know the Seder, the whole Passover, obviously points to Jesus. We'll be right back. Folks, I am talking to Dennis Prager. Do you understand what I'm saying? Dennis Prager? Dennis, I just love talking to you.

I wish I could talk to you a lot more about everything, but you're a busy man. What more do we need to know about the book, the rational Passover Hagada, other than that it's printed backwards intentionally? I, but, uh, We sent out 50 copies in digital form, it wasn't yet printed, to 50 listeners whom I asked on my show, if you would have probably little intention or no intention of buying this, even though you may get my other books,

but this just may not appeal to you. The word doesn't even make sense to you, Hagata. Send us your name, and we'll send you the digital printout or the digital words. and then all you need to do, we ask you within two weeks to send us your reactions. And then you'll get a free copy of the printed book when it comes out. So obviously people wrote in. We sent out 50 digitally. They'll get it as soon as it's printed.

It's basically printed now. It's coming out today or whatever the day is. It's coming out now. So if you read their reactions, the vast majority of them, not Jewish. They would say, I got to just say, contrary to what I would ever have imagined, the book has changed my life. That's the intention. The great issues discussed, the meaning of faith as a rational argument as you so resonate to. I mean, you will love this.

I have no doubt. I know you so well, and you know we love each other. And you will love this. And I'll tell you, Charlie Kirk, whom we both know, and Charlie said he has just started observing the Sabbath. And he's a committed Christian. I was in the room. Oh, that's why you were at the table. Bless you.

And I was listening to the two of you have this conversation. And I was thinking privately, what idiots. No, seriously? When you guys brought that up, you know I was sitting there thinking, I want to do this. and I actually have begun to do this in a quiet way. Actually, I'd like to have you on to talk about this another time. That's another great dialogue for us. Let's do the Sabbath one day.

I'd like to have you another time to talk about that. Let me, let me. My only point is Christians need more ritual, more divine ritual. This is a great first step. That is, look, that is so important, so beautiful. I'm so glad you framed it that way. Let me ask you a couple silly questions before you go. It says in the back of your book, you've traveled to 130 countries, all 50 states.

You've lectured on the seven continents. Okay, tell us about lecturing in Antarctica because I never heard this. Come on. Correct. I took about 100 of my listeners to Antarctica, and I lectured there. I also went on the land and lectured to the penguins, just to be really precise that not only did I lecture on the water's office, Antarctica, but on the land. Since there are no humans there, there is a picture of me. I should put it up again, lecturing to about 200 penguins. So in addition to people, that you did this, I have to say,

the idea that you took a bunch of your listeners to Antarctica, it sounds cruel, strange. I mean, I had to ask you about that. That is so beautiful. It's cool, huh? I know, I agree. It's at least cool. I mean, how extraordinary. 130 countries, that's also hard to believe. Like, that is astonishing. I agree with you. I'm very proud of it, actually. Of course you're proud of it.

You should be proud. Listen, I'm honored to call you, friend. Folks, anything by Dennis Prager, Prager University, the new book, The Rational, Passover, Hagada. Highly recommended. Dennis, we love you. Thank you. We'll talk to you. It's mutual.

God bless you.