The Eric Metaxas Show - Pete Peterson and Mike Lindell

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

As the announcer of this show, I sometimes ask myself, to what shall I compare Eric? Shall I compare him to a summer's day? Rough winds do shake the darling buds of me. But not Aaron. I'll tell you nothing shakes this guy. And now here he is, wearing green leotards and a gestures coxcomb, Eric from Taxus. Exiton, stage left. Hey there, folks.

Welcome to the Yikmanatiss show. I continue my conversation with Jenna Ellis. She's a senior fellow with the Falkirk Center at Liberty University. She's with the Trump campaign. Jenny, you wear a lot of hats. Before I continue, let me, before I let you continue, let me remind folks that we were in the last hour talking a lot about religious liberty and California, where you are representing Pastor John MacArthur. And I was talking about how Che on, who is a friend, and I spoke at his conference, his church, Harvest Rock Church, is suing the state of California over this issue. And he's going to be my guest on this program tomorrow, folks. Tune in for that.

This is hot stuff. I mean, this is right where we live. Not just that it's happening now, but it's at the core of who we are as an American people. We were talking, Jenna, about politics right now. And you were talking about protectthevote.com. And I did, I was not joking when I said that President Trump yesterday, I find him unfailingly hilarious, like even when he's not trying to be funny. And he was talking about. He has the best personality and is so witty.

I mean, I wouldn't describe it as witty. I would just describe it as just there's a kind of a truth-telling hilarity. When he talks, you just can't believe what comes out of his mouth. But he said something yesterday, and this is not a joke. Two dogs, they're sending all of these, they're not absentee ballots, which are fine. These are mail-in ballots, and they're just sending them to everybody. It's indiscriminate. It's a mockery of our system.

And he said that two dogs got ballots. Like, not a joke. Like, it comes to somebody's mailbox with the name of the dog and the last name. Like, that's how careful they're being. And then he mentioned, oh, and also one cat. And I just thought, like, if you want your election being decided by cats or fake cats, people, like, filling out stuff just because they got the ballot, I mean, that's, that is how bad it is. And that's how serious we need to get. Can we go back to Biden and Kamala? This is the thing that is going to be utter chaos after November and why the Trump campaign is suing to make sure to litigate hopefully these issues. And we only have two and a half months left. But if things stay at the current status quo of what the Democrats are trying to do with states like Nevada, I mean, we look at what's gone on all across the country. I can give you tons of examples. Go to protectthevote.com.

Look at all those examples. But we are not going to know for days or months after the election. who actually won, not only the president, but all the way down ticket. This is utter chaos, and we need to do better than that in America. Oh, I mean, that's an understatement. This is to me, this is scary stuff. This is the kind of thing where our democracy is at stake. Maybe people think that's hyperbole.

I don't think it's even slightly hyperbolic. I think that our democracy is at stake. Once you undermine the voting process, that thoroughly, it becomes a third world country. Nobody believes in anything at that point. The cynicism is already so deep. I guess going back to, is it Kamala Harris, Kamala, Carmela, I think it's... However you pronounce it, somebody is going to get mad. I'm all that's certain.

It's Carmela Harris. But she, the rap on her is that she's not very likable and she comes across as fake or phony or something like that. That's been my perception of her, that she'll say whatever she needs to say. And you can tell with certain people that they have conviction and they're just being polite.

But in her case, you don't get the idea that she necessarily believes anything. But when you look at her record, you mentioned her, the way she treated David Delighton. That man is a hero. That man is an American hero.

She treated him despicably. Can you say more about that? Because people need to understand who she really is. Yeah, so she went after David Delighton. And if you actually go to the Thomas More Society, which is actually where I'm special counsel, and that's the entity, the nonprofit organization that's funding these lawsuits, and we're grateful to them for that support. You can read even more about this case.

And, you know, Kamala Harris, when she was there in California, just viciously, as you said, went after him and attacked him because, she is so pro-choice that her politics, it was a political prosecution. And so even though as an undercover reporter, he was going in and exposing Planned Parenthood for what they're actually doing as a baby-butchering factor. I mean, they're selling body parts for profit. I mean, we look at everything that he uncovered there. And Kamala Harris went after that. She didn't care that he had, you know, First Amendment protection. She didn't care. She is for not just pro-choice. in the sense of, you know, hey, you know, I wouldn't personally choose that,

but I'm not going to impose my beliefs, you know, where some people kind of ride the fence a little bit. No, she is so feminist that she is for state-sponsored, partial birth abortion on demand. And I've spoken up about that. And so she viciously prosecuted him because of her own political self-interest. And that is what the Democrats do, by the way, whenever they get any semblance of power,

They will manipulate that and they will use it to their own political advantage instead of actually carrying out their oath of office and the obligations of that office. They use any power to their own political advantage. That's not what our system of government is designed to do at all. And so that does show, I mean, the president likes to call her phony Camilla. And that's absolutely accurate because she's a total fraud in terms of what she's trying to present herself as versus what she's actually for and what. her platform actually is, and she's trying to kind of now use Biden's lingo.

But we have to look at what she ran on, what her record is, and who she actually is as a candidate. I hate to correct you, but I'm pretty sure it's Carmela. Yeah, make a note, listen, you need to have some respect for the candidate and at least pronounce her name correctly. It's Carmela, okay, Jenna, your friend. I don't mean to shame you public. I appreciate that, Eric. Thanks for the correction. Okay. So now Biden, going back to Biden, I defended him, and I don't mean his policies or anything, but sometimes people get so political and they go like, oh, he's got dementia. And up until about three months ago, I thought, what's a big deal? He's misspeaking or whatever. He's kind of goofy. And, you know, like, that's who he is. But I have become convinced in the last three months that, unfortunately, he really is not who he was, even a year ago. It seems kind of clear.

And I guess I wonder, it's hard for me not to believe that behind the scenes, the party mandarin's, the elders, are scheming. And even yesterday, somebody came on, I believe it was CNN or something like that and was saying like, oh, yes, they're going to be sharing the presidency. It's definitely going to be a partnership and stuff. And I thought, I don't get the impression that Biden has the energy to be president an hour a day, much less, you know, 18 hours the way President Trump is. It's just kind of a, it seems to me real. And I think most of America sees it is real. And part of how we vote is going to have to do

with that. Yeah. Well, and it's really fascinating to me and frankly, just despicable, that Biden is the nominee. You know, he's getting ready to accept the Democratic nominee for president. And he still has not directly answered that question in a forum with any reporter who's asking him that question. I mean, the only time that one journalist, who, by the way, was black, asked him, you know, about his competency, is he taken, you know, any sort of mental health test or anything like that? He pushed back and said, you know, did you have to take a cocaine test before this interview and was very offended? Come on, man. Yeah, he was, come on, man, you know.

A lot, man is a is a rejoinder, a repost. a bon mo if you will worthy of oscar wild when everybody said anything to you that you don't like you just come back with come on man and it just it just levels them uh but what you just said he when he gets his backup do you remember when he said he called the guy fat you do you remember that like he would you could see him getting ticked off and he goes hey fat and i thought to myself and you ain't black this is kind of well yeah it's terrible but he needs to answer those questions he needs to answer before early voting starts, he has to answer the question of his mental competency. And I think that is fair for the American people. You know the truth about that. Well, listen, I'm sorry we're out of time.

Remember, it's Carmella Harris. And also remember, if you go to mypillar.com, use the code, Eric. That's really the most important part. Okay. Those are the takeaways. All right. Thanks, Eric. Great to see you. All right. Bye-bye. Hey there, folks. Did you know that Pepperdine has a school of public policy? I did. And I want you to know about it. And I thought, how can we, how can we explain to you that Pepperdine has a school of public policy that leans conservative? Well, I thought, what if we got the dean of that school on the program? His name is Pete Peterson. We got him. Here he is. Pete, welcome the program. Great to be with you, Eric. Seriously, now, how long has it? Now, Pepperdine, I'm a fan of that school. How long has it had a school of public policy is a graduate school? Yeah, we're the, I guess you'd say, the youngest of the four graduate schools here at Pepperdine, based in Malibu. We launched back in 1997, and so entering our 24th year.

And that original faculty, I look back on it, folks like James Q. Wilson and Michael Novak and Jack K. K. Kemp, just an amazing group of founders that got us off the ground there in the late 90s. and we've continued. I'm just amazed that there are conservatives in Malibu. And I noticed that, of course, nobody from Pepperdine loses an opportunity to mention that you're in Malibu because I visited the campus with my daughter a few years ago, and I just said, really, really, Malibu?

I know, Eric. I mean, I'm a guy who grew up in the Northeast. There's no way you would know this, but I met you back in the early 90s at a Socrates in the city event. I was actually born in New York, grew up in Jersey, married a California girl. And so, yeah, I mean, it took me a couple months just to realize this place was for real. I mean, it is for somebody from the Northeast who has not been out to California.

And this campus in particular, it really is a breathtaking place. Yeah, when I think of grad school, I think of just like depressing stacks, you know, winter. No, Malibu has a grad school at Pepperdine. honestly, it is kind of amazing. So when you say school of policy, what does that mean? What are the kind of students that would be coming there to study what? Yeah, so our kids are going off into one of three directions by and large. They're either going off to work in the government from the federal level all the way down to the local level.

Washington, D.C. is actually our second largest alumni chapter. So we have alums that are working in Capitol Hill and certain. the large administrative agencies. Nonprofits would be a second direction, so everywhere from conservative think tanks to faith-based nonprofits that are working on policy issues from education to homelessness. And then the policy-related private sector world, so corporate communications, government relations, that kind of place as well. Now, I know that you've written many books, but you've also run for public office,

in California. Can you talk about that for a moment? Yeah, I often say that I ran for a statewide office here as a Republican, which is why I'm now dean of a policy school. And I think that it was a great experience. It was back in 2014. I ran for Secretary of State, which in this day, when we're wondering about the integrity of our ballot, certainly these issues continue to be so important. Made it through the primary, got to the general. Didn't make it past the general, but again, is an experience which I hardly recommend, especially to our students. We have an increasing number of students who go on to run for office,

and I think that's really a place where people of faith and certainly those on the right need to think about engaging in the public square is actually running for office. Well, it is fascinating what has happened to the state of California. Of course, you know, we both remember. that it wasn't always as leftist as it is today. At what point and why do you suppose it shifted so dramatically, such that, you know, places like L.A. and San Francisco are just, they're falling apart.

I mean, it's like black hole just descending into chaos. It's a great question, Eric. You know, the Reagan Library is just over the hill here from where we are in Malibu, and we do events there at the library on a regular basis. The history between when Reagan was president and certainly on to Pete Wilson during the 90s and even Schwarzenegger in the early 2000s to where we are today, I think,

is in large part founded upon the major forces here in California politics, which are, frankly, the public sector unions. They are such a major player here. You know, when I grew up in Jersey, I thought about California is just this kind of freewheeling place, you know, a place of the West with cowboys and so on. And I never thought about it as being a real kind of union-dominated state. But when you get out here and sense the politics, certainly in teachers' unions and otherwise, those are the places that have a real strangle hold on our politics.

I'm always fascinated by how people fail to keep up with what's happening. In other words, you know, I have in-laws that I think of. as FDR Democrats. They forget that the party has dramatically changed and that history has changed. And I think a lot of people are that way. In other words, they don't realize that there was a time when we needed unions.

In the 1920s, in the 1930s, people needed to step up for the working man. The working man did not have anyone to look out for his interests in the way that was appropriate. And so unions came into being, but they're people who got stuck there, and they still think of the unions as, well, fighting for the little guy,

we're fighting for the, and you realize, no, they have become the 800-pound gorilla. They've become the monsters that are crushing the little guy, but the perception has not followed the reality. No, that's so true, Eric. And again, I think it's important to differentiate, private sector unions versus public sector unions. I remember Schwarzenegger had this great line, one of his few,

but he had a great line when he was governor. He said, the problem with, public sector unions as they sit on both sides of the negotiating table. Because of their political power and the ability that they have to put politicians into their positions, they get a chance to negotiate themselves. And obviously, the state and our taxpayers are the worst for it. I mean, it does seem to me that the state of California has to be broke or beyond broke. I mean, how can this continue?

These cities, you know, when you see the homeless camps, in downtown San Francisco or Los Angeles, you really wonder how that is possible in America. No, that's true, Eric. And whenever friends from out of state asked me about the future of conservatism in the state and the Republican Party, I say I'm short-term pessimistic,

but medium-term optimistic. And those points that you raise there, the governor just recently came out saying that we've got a $54 billion deficit ahead of us, which is going to result in extreme cuts. And as somebody who does a lot of work with cities across the state, I would not be surprised if we saw a half a dozen to a dozen cities attempting to declare bankruptcy here in the next six to 12 months.

We've just gotten so far over our skis in this last year that when the pandemic hit, we just were not fiscally ready to sustain it. And that starts at the state at Sacramento and then all the way through our 482 cities. Well, one of the things that I'm, you know, very public about is my fury at usually evangelical Christians who don't vote. They don't, they have very shallow theology, and they think that means that I shouldn't bother to vote. But we know that if simply the evangelical Christians in California had voted in the last election, there's no way that Gavin Newsom would have been elected. And you think this is a staggering failure of the church and of pastors. to speak out. I mean, you have to know that. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Eric. You know, we are seen as a pretty deep blue state out here, but as somebody who's engaged in my own church community, I know a lot of people in my own church community who just have kind of wiped their hands of politics, but we're suffering because of that. You know, these challenges that we

face here, whether it's our inability to go back to school because of the teachers' unions, basically preventing that from happening to these issues around finance more broadly. These are all issues that we as people of faith need to be engaged in, and it does start at the ballot box. Well, how long has Pepperdine been in existence? I'm not quite aware of that. Yeah, so 1937, we started in downtown Los Angeles, George Piperdine. Pepperine College, Pepperine, a deep man of faith saw the launch of this college as a way of preparing Christians and people of faith for lives of public service.

We came here to the Malibu campus back in the early 70s. We operate out of probably around a half a dozen campuses here in Southern California. but we continue to be, I think, a bright light in Christian higher education. And certainly we're at the policy school, one of the only Christian graduate schools in the country in policy and politics. Well, you know, as I was saying, I do remember taking my daughter on a tour of schools around the country. When we went to Pepperdine, I mean, the thought of my only daughter, my only child being so far away from me in New York was horrific. But I'm not joking. I was so impressed by Pepperdine that I thought I could handle this. That's my highest compliment, believe me.

I'm sorry we're out of time. Peterson, congratulations on all you're doing at Pepperdine as the dean of the Public Policy School there. And we hope to have you back. We need to hear from you. Thanks again. Great to be with you, Eric. A real honor. Hey, folks, as you can tell by the incumbent.

look on my face if you're watching this on video. Mike Lindell has decided to show up and to shame me into saying that yes, for a moment I forgot to use the code Eric when I went to my pillow.com. And for a moment, just for the briefest moment, I forgot to use the code Eric to get the whopping Ericman Taxes Show discount. And I just want to say, Mike, I'm sorry, what happened again. I don't know what I can say. Maybe no one else. Hey, hey, look, Mike is reading a book. I just got in the mail yesterday. Donald and a fake news. Oh my goodness. Well, you know what? This is creeping me out. So let me just say, Mike, I tell you what we'll do. We'll have you on in the next segment. Would that be okay? He's so sweet. Oh, he is great. He's literally whispered sweet.

Nothing's into my ears. And so, okay, so we're going to have Mike Lindell the man, not the bobblehead doll in a couple of minutes on this program. And he's going to talk about his, what happened at the White House a few months ago. So Mike Lindell coming up in the meantime, Albin, when you hold that book up, of course. I just got on the mail yesterday. Donald and the fake news, that is releasing, is it next week? I've done this before, and I mean it. The feedback I got on this, there is no doubt that people like it the best, they think it's the funniest. What is in it, I should say, it's like stuff out of the headlines.

You remember when Nancy Pelosi ripped up the State of the Union address? That's like that happened 40,000 years ago. But I will never forget when I was watching that on TV. I thought, did that really happen or I'm dreaming it? It's like when Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield's ear, I was watching like the pay-per-view, like in the early 90s, whenever that happened. I thought that can't, it couldn't have really happened,

but it did happen. It's like one of the most bizarre things ever. So that has been worked into the book, Donald, and the fake news. So that's something that's in the book that I think you'll have to look forward to. Russia thing is in there, except in this case, Donald the caveman is accused. He goes into a deli and he orders a Ruben sandwich. And there's a character there. I think his name is Comrade Butinsky or I can't remember, but he looks like Bernie Sanders. And he's in the deli.

And he observes that, you know, the Rubin sandwich. He ordered it with a lot of Russian dressing on it. And he's in the deli. And he observes that, you know, the Rubin sandwich. He ordered it with a lot of Russian dressing on it. And he mentions it to the Nancy Pelosi figure, and she realizes, we got him. We got him. That he's basically doing whatever he does to help the Russian salad dressing company, that he's just a, he's just a fraud. He's just a front for them. And he's doing their bidding. And so that's part of the story. So Donald and the fake news is the new book. Obviously, it's the third in the trilogy. Did you know that it was a trilogy? I did. I knew it was a trilogy. I'm hoping it's going to be a quadratory or whatever.

and there'll be a fourth. Yeah, what do they call that? I don't know. Now, you have a box set of your book out. I do. I do. Yeah, I have six books and it's, it's, it's releasing next, uh, next Tuesday. That's hamster homes. Are you kidding me? Yeah, box of mysteries. Hamster homes are books will be competing against each other, but they won't be competing because everyone will buy both of them. That's right. That's so cool. You got six in the series now? I do. I have six. And if the box set goes well, we're going to have another three or four or six more. If, if, if we can work out, maybe Mike Lindell I won't have the guts to ask him when he comes on in a few minutes, but I was going to say maybe I could talk to his people

and they could sell Donald and the fake news at mypillow.com, and then if people use the code Eric, they could get a discount off of that. Wouldn't that be swell? Oh, that would be great. MyStore.com is his new venture. Oh, oh, speaking of discounts and the code Eric, tomorrow, we're going to have on this program, Tim Mahoney.

He's been on the program before. Really wonderful guy. He's a documentary filmmaker. He's made a series of films called Patterns of Evidence. And I think there are four of them now. And the place you can go to see them is SalemNow.com. You go to SalemNow.com and you put in the code Eric and everything that's there, the movie Uncle Tom, Larry Elders, genius,

documentary about black conservatives called Uncle Tom. That's at Salem Now.com. You put in the code Eric, you get 20% off any of these patterns of evidence films. That tomorrow we're going to talk to Tim Mahoney in depth about it. But I just want to say last night, I was home alone. And I said, I want to watch this. And so I go to salem now.com. And I thought, you know, I'm not in the mood to watch it on my computer, but what choice do I have? And I want you to know, I'm so proud, I figured out how to do airplay on our big screen TV in the living room all alone. I figured it out. Isn't that stunning? That's like me inventing the light bulb. I watched the Moses controversy. I want to talk to him about that tomorrow,

but it's about whether Moses had the ability to write the Pentateuch or the Torah or whatever, because people say, well, but there was no writing in 1450 BC or there was no writing. So it's this amazing controversy, and this is the kind of stuff that I love because it gets into archaeology and, you know, it's like my whole thing with Homer and Odysseus. You kind of, you think when was writing invented, who wrote the first stuff? It was so fascinating. So even before you listen to the conversation, we're going to have with them tomorrow. If you want to go to SalemNow.com, make sure you use the code Eric to get the 20% off.

That's right. And by the way, no safe spaces. we had Adam Carolla yesterday. Well, Adam Carolla's No Safe Spaces is also there. You know what? Actually, I'm not kidding. I can't believe I forgot that. That's like huge.

We mentioned that in the past, but I forgot because it's been a while. No Safe Spaces with Dennis Prager and Adam Carolla who was on yesterday. That is also available at SalemNow.com. And if you use the code, Eric, you get 20% off. If you don't use the code Eric, you pay full price. Okay. When we come back, we're actually talking to our friend, Mike Lindell, don't go away.

Hey there, folks, welcome to the Air for Taxi Show. Yes, I'm talking to Mike Lindell, the inventor he claims, of My Pillow. Mike, welcome back. Hey, it's great to be back, Eric. Listen, I don't know if you know this, but Albin and Chris Heimes and I, my other producer, we created a commercial to tell people, you know, to go to MyPillow. and to use the code Eric. And in there, we used a clip of you in the Rose Garden. I said, you know, who do you want to support? What kind of people are you buying from? How about buying from this guy?

And, you know, I was praising you because I love you and I love what you do. And we played the clip of what you said in the Rose Garden, surprising the president a little bit. But so is there a backstory to that that you were going to share? Yeah, there is. And it's, I actually have the original papers right here. I'll to tell you, but I was doing, this is right before, like the Wednesday before I was at the Rose Garden, and here, where I'm in signing my books, and we get a letter from the, an email for the vice president's office that says, hey, we're going to have this roundtable event on Monday, and would you, you need to write some remarks, and they need to be pre-approved. And so one of my assistants is telling me about that, I go, I've done a round table before.

I said, you don't have to pre-approved. Oh, yeah, you do. And I'm going, okay, write them, and I'm signing my books, and they're writing these. And you have to write down what you're doing for the pandemic, and we had switched over our production to masks. So now, realize, I had not seen any press conferences, right? So I had no idea about the Rose Garden things he was doing because I was so down in 12 hours, 15 hours a day making these masks. Wait, right? So you mean to tell me people can buy masks at MyPillow.com?

Yeah, these were made by us. Yep, yep, absolutely. Are these the masks, Mike? Huh? Mypillow.com? Yeah, yeah, Mypillow.com. Absolutely. All right.

So, so what we did, or I take off for New York, I mean, I take off for D.C. And I get there, and I get in the White House an hour and a half early. And I'm waiting around, talking to different people. I love it in there. And here, we get into this roundtable. Now there's these other CEOs. The vice president's sitting here. And the president's not in there yet.

And we go around the room and we tell what we're doing. for the, you know, to help the virus and help the COVID. And here, the president comes and then we basically go around again, but nobody was reading their remarks. We get up to leave and the vice president, I go, you know, we didn't read our remarks. He goes, oh, no, Mike, you might get called up on stage. We're going to be out at the Rose Garden. And I said, what?

So we all go into the other room and the president and vice president are looking at his speech. And I'm sitting here and the CEOs are here. and then I grab this crumbled up paper. This is a copy of it out of my pocket. I go, and I start reading it. My pill is a U.S. vertically integrated company, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm reading this and I'm crossing off. If you see here, I'm crossing stuff off.

And I go, you know what? I'm going to give a message to the people. I'm not going to, this is just blah, blah, blah. I'm not bragging about my company. I can care less. So I put the paper over, and I don't know if you can see this. But if you look at this, it's one of these. I start crossing off words and I have arrows going down where you start here and go back up here and one of these things.

And I just get done. And I'm just get to the bottom and I'm going to recopy it on another sheet of paper. The president stands up. He goes, come on. We're heading out. He goes, he goes, and I'm going, what? And I'm going, on the way out there, I'm going, please, God, let me read my writing. Please let me read my writing.

And then I didn't get the memo. If you see where I was sitting there right in front of the podium. the vice presidents to my right. All the other CEOs are over here. Well, I guess they had told them that's all come up to the side of the stage. Well, nobody told me, so I came right up the middle. And so when I'm reading this and I turned to the president and said, I'd like to say something off the cup I wrote. He goes, yeah, go ahead. If you watch his eyes when I'm reading it, he's like, how can you read your writing? But we got back yet, Eric. We got. We got We did it, and I was very nervous, but we got back in.

I go, did I do something wrong? Anyway, the president never said it, but the vice president goes, Mike, I thought he was going to start. I said, you have opened up the heaven. She said, it's just, you know, all excited about what I said. And I'm going, now two hours later, I leave the White House, and I get my phone back, and I open up my phone, and I have 753 text messages. I didn't know I had that many friends, Eric. I'm going, and I'm going, what did I do?

I turn on my Twitter, and I'm the number one news in the world for telling people they should read their Bibles and get back in the word. And I'm attacked by every talk show host from CNN, from Jim Ockelska was three feet from me. Of course, he had to bad mouth beat, but all these things. So I end up doing 109 interviews in nine days. I'm going, wow, what did I do? But it was fun. And you did that without drugs. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, seriously, that is, that is insane, Mike. Yeah, yeah. But it was fun. I wanted, I loved, I loved getting on the bad media because I just enjoyed going on there, you know. The view was going to have me on. They canceled at the last minute. If you're out there, view, I want to come on your show. Wait, who was going to have you on?

The view, the view. Oh, the view. The view wanted to be out during that. And they canceled at the last minute. I would have loved to. to go on there and say, well, why wouldn't people get in prayer right now? You know, why wouldn't we all train? But that's, you see, the whole point is that, you know, the cognoscenti, the people,

the chattering classes don't understand. But most people get it. Most people are going through tough times. And when somebody says, it's great to hang out with your family and to start praying together, when somebody says that most Americans, that's why I'm so grateful for you, you know, grabbing the bull by the horns and just blurting that out. It was a wonderful, it was a wonderful moment. I mean, it was just an amazing moment.

But it's why we made the commercial and I said, folks, if you're going to buy your products from somebody, wouldn't you want it to be a guy like this? And we played that, you know, in the video. And I said, just make sure you use the code Eric. Otherwise, you don't get our wonderful discount. But I thought to myself, we need to think more that way. Who are you buying from? Where do you get?

Where are you buying from? Why are you buying from people who are using their money in ways that you wouldn't like? And by the way, if you buy a shoe from Nike or you buy something from Apple, they're using slave labor in China. We need to begin to deal with this as a country. We cannot leave this as something that, like, it doesn't really matter. It does matter. Mike, we've only got seconds left. You're creating something called MyStore.

Tell me about that. Yeah, it's MyStore.com. And right now, probably you'll launch it in a couple weeks here now. but it can actually go on my pill and see we have a little square for it. But it's entrepreneurs in our country, good entrepreneurs, most of American-made products, unless they can't get the parts here. But it's going to be like a mini-Amazon. Can I get my products on that?

100%. When we come back, I'll do a presentation of my product. We'll be right back to Mike Lundell. It's time to come blow your horn. Lobes, I'm talking to Mike Lundell. he just told me that he's creating something called my store.com where I could sell some of my products. Now, Mike, already you sell at Mypillow.com. You sell the Bumblehead dolls. I have one here. You sell hand sanitizer. Now, I want people to use the code Eric on all this stuff. The most important thing, I wish I had Giza sheets to show my audience. Oh, look at that. I just happen to have some Giza sheets. I just happen to have them hanging around here on

my desk, Mike. But you said that you can sell my books at this store. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to help the entrepreneurs. So many products in our country get copied in China. You go to a box store and there they are. Product copied and entrepreneurs get just crushed on Amazon and Google and all of them. So here is going to be a safe platform for great products, great books like yours, it's going to be amazing. So you mean to tell me that you'd be willing to carry, for example, Donald drains the swamp? 100%. It's there tomorrow. All right. You'd be able to carry Donald builds the wall? Absolutely. It's there tomorrow. All right. I'm just checking, because I don't want to do anything I shouldn't do. I wrote a book called Seven Women. You'd be able to

carry that book? Yes. Okay. There's a book called Seven Men and a sequel called Seven More Men. You'd be able to carry that book? Absolutely. Would you be able to carry audio books? I'm trusting you, because I know you that these are great books, right? And I haven't read a couple of these. Audio books? You carry audio books? Absolutely. All right. I have a book I wrote about miracles. I think you probably carry that book. But Mike, here's the big one. Vonhofer was translated into Chinese. Will you be able to carry this? I think that might be too much. That might be too much to ask. Look, all I care about is that you are using your platform in business to help other entrepreneurs and to get people excited about things like reading their Bible.

You're trying to get people off of drugs. You're setting up this extraordinary thing. What's it going to be called this thing that you're building, this website? The Lendale Recovery Network. Lendell Recovery Network. And that's going to be launching in September. September 26th of this year. So a couple months out, and you know, it'll be the best help in history for addiction. And we're not talking just on drugs and alcohol. We're talking, you know,

you're overeating. You're talking to maybe sex addiction, porn, whatever the addiction may be, compulsive gambling, it doesn't matter. It's going to give you the help. It's going to be the most amazing platform ever. And that combined with- expecting you to say, right? It's going to be the most amazing platform ever or your money back. That's right. We don't, we don't, Bill, you know, they always say to me, Mike, if you have plan A and plan B and they go, plan A will be this great plan and they'll go, well, what's plan B? I said, plan B says see plan A. That's it. It's going to work. When you do the best, it's the best ever. Well, I got to joke around, but honestly, it's very moving, Mike, to think that, that you have come so far

That your book, your new book, of course, tells the story and people can buy that at mypillow.com. But you've come so far that you're now going to be able to significantly help other addicts. We know that that addiction in America is so severe. And the idea that God can use you to lead people not only out of addiction, but to the God who loves them, you know how happy that makes me, Mike. It's an honor to call myself your friend. It's an honor that you are a sponsor of this program. So we'll leave it there, my friend.

I want to say, God bless you. Thanks for your time. Thanks for all you do. And we will be in touch. Thanks, Eric. God bless. God bless you. And folks, if you don't use the code Eric, I'm coming after you.

Thank you.