The Eric Metaxas Show - Phelim McAleer

Episode Date: May 23, 2022

Phelim McAleer has a harrowing story about "infiltration" by Hunter Biden's lawyer on the set of the movie, "My Son Hunter"; then, Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote provides the facts from Salem Media's film, "2000 Mules." (Encore Presentation)

Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. It's rare that we get kind of exciting breaking news on this program. That's not our goal. But yesterday I heard from our friend Phelham McAleur and his bride, Anne McElhenney. They're Irish, you understand. They have been on this program many times. They are behind numerous important things most recently filming something called

my son Hunter, which is the story of Hunter Biden and the laptop. And we have Phelam in the studio in New York. Phelam, welcome. Thank you, Eric. Always glad to be on your show. You and Anne are genuine journalists and you've done many things. You did the film about Gaznell. Before we get into the, if I may say, shocking story of what happened to you recently in Serbia, Hunter Gitt. Gate. Serbia, or Giet. If you're Irish, it's Giet.

See, I knew it. That took about a minute. That took about a minute before he missed fun of my accent. Okay, I want, for the record, I want everyone to go back to the previous interviews with Eric Matagas. It's terrible. On every occasion. I can't help it. He has made fun of my.

I'm not making fun. It's an homage. No, honestly, I love the way you talk. And so maybe you think I'm mocking you. But I do think that it's my love language. So stop it. Destroy the village to save the village. The film is my son Hunter.

And something just happened to you and to Anne. And Anne emailed me about it, and it was shocking. It is. So before we say what that is, just tell my audience why you're in New York for Gossnell and tell us then what happened. I mean, I don't think I'm easily shocked. I mean, you know, I've been to New Jersey, you know.

I've seen a few things. I'm staying there at the moment. But this is genuinely shocked me. I've covered the troubles. We infiltrated baby selling rings in Indonesia. People are in prison because of our journalism. I've got punched more times than I've had hot dinners. I covered the troubles in Northern Ireland.

This is one of the most shocking things that ever happened to me. I've covered the Gosnell trial. So when we were in Serbia filming the Misan Hunter movie, you know, three guys arrived. And one of them is what's called Kevin Morris. Okay, now this is where it gets creepy and scary, and this is true. But before you share that, for those people listening who are not familiar with the film that you and Anne are making, tell us what is this film? Because you've been on the show, but not everybody listens to the show every day.

My son, Hunter is the film. It's about Hunter Biden's dodgy dealings. I say it's part Austin Powers, part John LaCarray, part House of Cowards. It's about Hunter Biden's dodgy dealings. It's about Joe Biden's dodgy dealings. It's an absurdist romp through Hunter Biden's drug-addled past and possibly present. And it's true. It's true.

I mean, the best source of it for a lot of it is Hunter Biden's autobiography, where he talks about. I mean, this is a guy who says, I had to leave the board meeting of Burisma every 20 minutes to take a crack hit, you know, to get some crack in my system. This guy was getting paid $83,000 a month by Burisma for four years. He was paid millions of dollars. He was part of a $1.2 billion fund that was part owned by the Chinese government. He was getting money from the former mayor of Moscow's ex-wife, $3.5 million. Money was just flowing in from these foreign sources, and he has emails. Joe Biden is cut in for 10%.

Joe Biden is cut in for 50%. This is, you know, these are facts. So anyway, but, you know, that's the fact. Well, no, not, not anyway. I want to be very clear. So in case anybody's driving and they're half listening, this is true. Yes.

And Phelam and Ann are journalists. Yeah. And they're making a film about this. A movie. I'm sorry. Whatever the difference is. The Irish guys interrupt. Film in a movie.

Stop it. This is what happens when you let Irish people into the room. But my question is, you're making a movie. Okay. But the point is it's true. And it's about the biggest story. there is. We're talking about corruption in the White House, corruption at the highest level with our foreign enemies. Everyone ought to be clamoring to cover this. And as we know, it's crickets.

That's how you know we're living in truly mad times. But by the grace of God, you and Anne are covering this. You've been covering this. And you are making a movie about it. So now you're filming this movie. Yes, and it's a, you know, it's a work, it's a movie movie in the sense that we have Lawrence Fox, the British actors playing Hunter, John James is playing Joe Biden, you know, Gina Carrano's

and it's, so it's, this is a you know, an absurdist movie for an absurd situation. And so next thing, I get word that there's a documentary film crew in town and they're wanted to come on set to make, you know, as part of their

documentary. Okay, now, you're in Serbia. I'm in Serbia. Now, was this last week? This was beginning of November last year. Oh, okay. So this, while you're filming this in November, in Serbia, and the reason, of course, you're filming it in Serbia is because you get tax credits. A lot of these

places are trying to... Well, yeah, there's always that. But, I mean, Serbia doubles as the Ukraine, Serbia's Eastern Europe, but doubled... Hunter Biden did a lot of his dodgy dealings in Ukraine. So that's one of the reasons. And, you know, there's a lot of beautiful women in Serbia. There's a lot of strip bars in Syria.

and you can't make a movie about Hunter Biden without beautiful women in strip bars, you know. You know, I've tried, and you're right. I haven't been able to make a movie without those elements. So, okay, so the reason you're here today, Phelam, is you and Ann have been in New York with a play, because, of course, now we're in May 2022, but a story just broke, Anne sent me the email, and she said, you've got to have Phelham on to talk about it. So what you're talking about took place in November. You're filming this film, and somebody comes claiming to want to make a documentary. About Hunter Biden.

And his name was Kevin Morris. He's an Uber Hollywood lawyer. They flew in in a private jet. He's part of the South Park team, the cartoon, the adult cartoon. The Book of Mormon, they do that. They've just signed a $900 million streaming deal. he said they were going to expand their content and they were now making documentaries

and they wanted to come on set and film the set and do interviews with me and do interviews with the actors, which they did and we give them unprecedented access. Fast forward. To promote the film, of course. I mean, by the way, I'm pretty open anyway. Fast forward, I opened the newspaper, as they say,

the other morning and it turns out Kevin Morris is not a retired lawyer. He's a very active lawyer. He's representing Hunter Biden. His job is to craft legal and media strategies for Hunter Biden. Part of that job, and part of the thing he wants to do is discredit people who are spreading smears about Hunter Biden. I think you mean spreading the truth. Exactly.

He wants to make the truth sound like mere smears. And so he literally flew across the Atlantic Ocean to Serbia in a private jet on whose dime I don't know. Good question. In order to get this information from you, misrepresenting who he was. Yes, totally. And, you know, that's an ethical breach for a lawyer with harder doubt, not saying who is. Even for a lawyer, and we know they're not averse to ethical breaches. But in this case, a clear ethical breach.

There was someone infiltrated the set of MISA Hunter under false pretenses. Now, apparently, maybe he is making a doctor. documentary. But he's also representing, and his firm admitted to CBS News, that he is representing Hunter Biden, and he is crafting a legal and media strategy for Hunter Biden. And part of that seems to be go and misrepresent yourself or misrepresent you yourself by omission. And infiltrate our set. Interview me for three or four hours. I assume if you stitch something together there'll be something embarrassing coming out that I said are one of the actors you know and it's like okay but that i mean the headline here is that hunter Biden's lawyer

extremely wealthy extremely well paid big deal flies on a private jet to Serbia yeah from LA with two associates with two associates and comes on to the set interviews you on under false pretenses and obviously now we know why he did this, because his client, Hunter Biden, is in very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very big trouble. And you are doing your best to get the word out about the truth. And they are taking some very drastic measures. We're going to be right back talking to Phelham McHalear.

My son, Hunter, is the film. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back talking to Phelham McHalear. Phalaam is an Irish name. We don't have a lot of phalems in America. So I just want to be clear to my audience. It's not your audio. He's Irish.

Phelam McAleer. The film... Oh, go on. Make fun of my accent again. It wouldn't be a segment about me. It wouldn't be a segment about me without making fun of my accent. Now listen.

This is cultural something. I know. It's appropriation. My son Hunter is the film that you and Anne have been making. It is a true story. Yeah. It doesn't make it any less bizarre, crazy, entertaining. But it's true.

And it's horrific. And it's starring Lawrence Fox. Now, Lawrence Fox of the famous Fox family of actors in England. Big deal. He ran for the mayor of London. Gina Carrano, another famous actress canceled, just as Lawrence Fox was canceled. So you're hiring these canceled talents. And you're making a film.

And again, this was in November of last year, and it just came out that the man who came to interview you misrepresented himself on the set in Serbia. Turns out we now know this was one of the very well-paid lawyers for Hunter Biden. Exactly, exactly. And I mean, he completely, I'm just looking at what CBS News reported. CBS also reported that according to Hunter Biden's criminal attorney, Christopher Clark, Kevin Morris is serving as an attorney and trusted advisor to Hunter Biden.

That information was kept from us when we allowed him to roam ourselves. And why? Because obviously, if you knew that this guy is working for Hunter Biden, you certainly would have not granted him access to the Senate. Well, by the way, I might have, you know. But, you know, I don't know. Probably not. Probably not, actually. But, well, you know he's there to do you and the Project Harm. There's no question about it.

I have nothing to hide, right? But, you know, he's going to go in. He's gone in there to try and get me saying something inappropriate or to get someone on the set saying something inappropriate or to have the, you know, to have somebody using bad language or in-temperate comments, you know. And it's like, it's a bit pathetic, really, actually. You know, this is a lawyer.

And this is what he's at. This is the level. rather than fighting facts. No, but isn't that the point? I mean, this is the point. This is why you're on this program now is because what do we learn from this kind of behavior?

They don't have the facts on their side. The facts are marshaled against them. And so they have to do what you do if you have no ethics and you want to win. You go on a fishing expedition to come up with anything you can possibly come up with

to string something together to put enough doubt in the mind of the jury. That's funny. That's what CBS is saying, that he's going on. He wants to spread a narrative and they're saying that, questioning even the chain of custody of the laptop, questioning where the laptop came from,

how it was disseminated. And he was asking me a lot of questions about that, right? And, you know, who my sources were, what information we were using in the movie, he was asking me, what did I know, but how the laptop came to emerge and all that. And it's like, you know,

that's the most journalised piece of information. Everyone know, funny, it's not because the media tried to ignore it, but people have been very obvious and open about where it came from.

And it's a sign of the desperation of the Hunter Biden side that they're even at this. Well, look, again, we have to say, we're talking about levels of corruption. And again, folks, it really doesn't matter where you are politically.

The idea is that we hope you're against corruption and you are for truth. So if we can agree on that, we can have a conversation. And the behavior of the Bidens, you know, you can find many, many people who are lifelong Democrats who know that a career politician like Joe Biden has made grotesque compromises. He's done things over the years. It really is very, very ugly. And now that he's in the White House and that his son Hunter has, has. I mean, you won't remember this, but in the 70s,

Jimmy Carter, the president, had a brother, Billy Carter. That's right. And Billy Carter was, you know, kind of like an embarrassment because he might say things to the press and so on and so forth. So it became a funny thing. But when you compare that to what is happening here, now we have a man in the White House whose son is not just involved in criminal dealings, but just it's about as sorted as it can possibly get.

And most of this stuff is on the laptop, and the media has done everything to squelch this information. Yeah, and you know, our movie is not making fun of Hunter Biden because he's an addict, but it is part of a story. And, you know, and Kevin Morris was, you know, very smart, you know, talked about his addictions to Kevin is an addict. He said, he told me. and, you know, or was an addict or whatever the phrase he.

But who knows? Maybe he wasn't. Maybe that was just part of the, because we had this conversation about addictions and what is addiction, you know, because it's a very funny thing. And I think there hasn't been enough research done on what is, how are some people addicts and some other people aren't or not? So we had this, you know, deeply philosophical conversation about addiction and he talked about his own addictions. And then I'm thinking, was any of it true, you know, was it was, was, was, was, was, was, was, Everything he's saying. It's possible that every word he uttered was a lie, including and the.

What a way to live a life, though. Well, but, I mean, I want people to know your credentials as well that you and Anne covered the Gossinnell story, one of the most grisly horror stories in modern American life of this man, Kermit Gossnell, who murdered more babies than, I mean, I, I, I, The details are what's so grotesque, and it's why actually you're in New York. Tell us briefly what you're doing in New York. So we're doing a verbatim play. So I popularized verbatim theater where you take the actual courtroom testimony.

And everything in the play is only actual courtroom testimony. I did this with Ferguson. He used only grand jury testimony to tell the last hours of Michael Brown's life. And the truth turned out to be very different from the media spin. I did this with FBI Lovebirds, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page's text message. and now I'm doing it with the Gosnell testimony and the Gosnell Grand Jury Report. And it's a story of, it's a true crime story, it's also a story of redemption, it's a story of death, it's a story of heroes, cops and prosecutors, and it's a story of justice, eventual justice,

but it's also a story of how the establishment in order to protect the sacred right of abortion looked the other way and hundreds of not thousands of babies die. women and then several women died. Several women were mutilated. This guy, this is a guy who was involved in something called the Mother's Day Massacre in 1973, right? That's what the media called it. The Mother's Day Massacre, where he mutilated 11 women,

and he was let kill. I've never heard this. Yeah, he was let kill. No one thought that, oh, we need to keep an eye on him. His place was not inspected for almost 20 years, for his last 20 years. And this is in Philadelphia. And again, this is always in the poor black neighborhoods. they feed on the poor.

It's just so, it is utterly criminal. It's horrifying. So, yeah, so we thought we'd bring this play. So what happened was we were doing reenactments for a podcast we're doing on Gosnell. And then I saw that JJ Abrams, the Uber Hollywood producer, is bringing a play to New York. Oh, God, a show about abortion. Sorry for the blasphemy. That's the name of the play.

Oh, God, a show about abortion. And I thought, ooh, it's a one-woman comedy about her abortion. And who is in that? Well, Ilanad Lazer is presenting the actress, and then the person who's doing it, is Alison Levy, who is a writer on The Marvelous Miss Maisel. And I thought, you know, if they can laugh about it, we can tell the truth about it. So we're bringing the Gossanil play is running the same time. And it's in the Chain Theatre, Manhattan.

The chain theatre in Manhattan. And it's this weekend. Yes, and it's called, for details, Gosnellplay.com. So it's May, what, 13th, 14th, 15th, something like this? So, gozno play.com. Gosnellplay.com. New York City, May 13, 14. The reason I say this is because if anybody's in New York or if you know anybody in New York,

that's the kind of journalism that Anne and Phelham do. It is heroic. It is beautiful that there are folks like you doing this in the chain theaters. The website again? Gosnellplay.com. Gosnellplay.com. So while you've been here in New York doing this, and I hope people can see it, this story breaks that the interview you gave in November in Serbia

was conducted with a man who clearly is trying to do you and the film My Son Hunter Harm. Yeah. It's, what a life, you know. Can you imagine being Hunter Biden's lawyer? This sounds like a joke. It's like being Hitler's grandmother or something. Like what?

I don't know about that. But no, but it's also like, you know, Kevin Morris, he claimed to care about Hunter. you know? Or he claimed to care about addicts and he claims... Now he's saying he's his friend and his trusted... If you are Hunter Biden's friend, Kevin Morris, you need to stop running around the world

trying to smear people who are telling the truth. You need to look Hunter Biden in the eye and tell him the truth and tell him he's nothing but an entitled. Silver spooned, you know, woke up in third base and think he got a home run. No, I thought he had a triple. But that's okay. You're from Ireland.

You haven't cut baseball in Ireland. We walked up on third base, thought he had a touchdown, you know. Yeah. We're going to go to a break. Folks, more with Phelham McAleer. Again, the film, which will be coming out this year. It's called My Son Hunter. Meanwhile, the chain theaters, you can go to Gosnell Play.com.

We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to my friend, the journalist, Phelam McAleer, and McElhenney is not with us. right now. But the two of you have done many very important projects as journalists and artists. Right now in New York, you have this play, Gosnell Play.com, where you're telling the truth about abortion, I mean, more than telling the truth. You're revealing one of the most horrific episodes in modern American history. You're daring to do it in Manhattan. And this is one of the things I just wanted to say, how vital this is, that you're daring to do this in

Manhattan. I live my life as well in Manhattan. On May 31st, we're doing something. It's the antithesis of incendiary or provocative. We're hosting Apollo 16 astronaut Charlie Duke at an event. Anyone who is in New York, I invite you to go to Socteathees in the city.com and come to that event. But if you're in New York this weekend, you owe to yourself to see this play, and you said it's Gaznell Play.com and you call it verbatim theater. Yes. Which is all you're doing

is every word in that play was taken from a courtroom testimony or from the grand jury report. Every word. I'm not, there's no, so it's it's, and it's, it's a great way of telling a story because you've got all these eyewitnesses telling, you know, from all these different points of view about the

one incident and about the one series of incidents. And of course in a courtroom, there's no political slogans allowed. There's everything you say has to be backed up by evidence, you know. So therefore, the truth tends to come out, you know, it's really, it's... Well, it's an extraordinary thing. What interests me, Phelham, is that when you have somebody like George W. Bush in the White House, or you have somebody like Trump in the White House, the left, which is to say the mainstream media and the entertainment world,

they go crazy creating plays and narratives and cartoons and movies, making fun of them. when you have someone in the White House who is as preposterous a cartoon figure as anyone could ever imagine, they don't say one word. It falls to two transplanted Irish people to do this kind of thing. Yeah, no, it's weird.

I mean, the Hunter Biden story should be on Saturday Night Live from beginning to end. It is, it's a gift that keeps on giving, you know. But it's great to be, a Democrat, it's great to be a Biden, you get your lawyer flies halfway across

the world in a private jet. Probably Chinese money, right, is paying for this. You know, it's great, and you don't go to jail, you can take money from foreign countries, you can cut your father in for 10% or 50% and Saturday Night Live are still talking about Trump, you know?

Yeah. And it's like, it's amazing. It wasn't even funny when you did it the first time, but it ain't funny this time. Like, you've got Hunter Biden video himself doing basically everything, you know. I think you should exercise your brains a little bit, guys, and do something funny. Well, again, what makes it, you know, really creepy is that when it was Billy Carter in the 70s, it was actually funny. Now it is like pointing a gun at the heart of America. You have as nefarious actors as you can possibly imagine in places like China,

and Russia, and you have them wanting to use any possible advantage they can against us, and you have a willing, hack, corrupt politicians saying, hey, if I can make some money in it, keep my kid off the streets. I mean, it's kind of, it's epic. That's an epic and pathetic, you know. Hunter Biden is an addict of his own admission. And, you know, Kevin Morris and those people, rather than looking them straight in the eye and getting them help,

They're facilitating them. They're trying to smear their opponents. Joe Biden, rather than getting his son help, used him as a bag man to enrich his family. Well, that's a fact. Yeah. I mean, that is an absolute fact. And the emails and whatsoever in the laptop shows this. We had Rudolph Giuliani sharing some of this with us here.

And listen, it doesn't matter who you like or don't like or whatever. This is a level of reality that. We've got to deal with this. You cannot have... I mean, everybody should have compassion for an addict or for... Of course. But if that addict is being used in a deeply cynical way, you've got to confront them. I mean, my prayer for Hunter would be that he would come clean,

that he would try to let God redeem his life by telling the absolute truth. Because Americans are very forgiving. And if somebody does that, genuinely, we tend to forgive them. Well, the problem is, you see, left us to my life. is not very forgiving. Well, they're not the ones that have to forgive him. Yes. Hunter looks around and he sees how people like, you know,

Gina Cranos in our movie, she did one tweet, her career was finished over, right? So he goes, well, we're not very forgiving. I can't tell the truth. He doesn't know that real America is very forgiving. He doesn't understand. Yeah, real America, Christian America, conservative America tends to be forgiving of people

who come clean and tell the truth. I mean, there's always going to be some cynics. But by and large, your heart goes out to someone if you see that they are a train wreck and then they really tried to improve. But if you double down and hire super high-powered lawyers to fly across in private jets, to smear those who are trying to get the truth out. But what it tells most of us, Phelam, is that we know by that kind of behavior, what is at stake?

Yeah. I really brought it home to me. I thought we were in Serbia, you know, making a movie. and, you know, but this this is big, this is the big big leagues. When you get visited in Serbia, you know somebody must be taking in a special interest

in what it is that you're doing to come all the way to Serbia in a private jet. Yeah. If they'd fly in coach, it would be even more impressive. But, well, we're out of time, folks, if you want to see this play in New York, Gosnellplay.com

and Phelam and Ann, we will stay on top of this story. Thanks for coming in. Thank you. Thank you, very. It's really an important segment today. I want to be really blunt. This is very important. In Zurich, Switzerland, right now, the international head of CSI, Christian Solidarity International, is coming to us. Dr. John Ibner is with us right now to talk to us about what's going on in Ukraine. As you know, we're doing a fundraiser with CSI to try to get U.S.I. to try to get you to help them do what it is that they do,

helping Ukrainian refugees. So all the way from Zurich, Switzerland, Dr. John Ibner, welcome. I'm so thrilled that you were able to be with us today. I'm thrilled to be with you. Thank you very much for having me and for platforming this dreadful crisis in the Ukraine and the humanitarian disaster that's unfolding there. It is, I always say it's incumbent on us to understand that, you know,

suffering is not good. It doesn't matter how it comes about. You don't need to be involved politically to know that when you have millions of people fleeing their homes with their kids, it is a nightmare. And so CSI, as usual, steps into the breach. So what do we need to know about what is going on over there, Dr. Ibnur? We know there's a terrible humanitarian crisis. I was there some weeks ago and saw something of it myself. but over half of the people in the Ukraine. Ukrainians are either outside the country. They fled or they're internally displaced or they are living in danger zones and combat zones.

The whole country has been turned upside down. It's just impossible for those of us in the West to imagine what it would be like. Even our parents and grandparents probably can't remember anything this dramatic We're used to peace, we're used to prosperity. But the idea that Ukrainians are going through this right now, it's just mind-blowing. And I want to thank you and CSI for stepping up to help them. So I keep saying to people that $280 provides food and resources for a month. Now, folks, go to metaxistalkystalk.com.

You'll see the banner, metaxistalk.com. I'll give you the phone number in a moment. But tell us how does CSI help these folks? I mean, you guys are all over the world. Where are you now and how are you helping the folks fleeing Ukraine? In the Ukraine, we have local partners. We're working through them. They're interdenominational.

And they're on the spot. They're on the ground. I was in Mukachevo in Western Ukraine. Thousands and thousands of people are flooding. there because it's a relatively peaceful area and our partners are on the ground providing what is needed in a flexible unbureaucratic way so there are people who simply have no food okay we're able to provide food no shelter they have children that are traumatized there are all kinds of needs that are are there people have different needs some people come with some money some people come completely destitute

And we're able through our local partners on the ground to meet individual needs. And moreover, not just to meet the individual material needs, but the spiritual needs, the psychological needs, the people need love. They don't need just a bureaucratic gift. And so working through these Christian partners on the ground, we're able to provide that really important dimension too. The message is not just here's some food, here's some shelter, here's some clothing, here's some mattress, but you're not alone. You're not alone because there are other Christians around the world who care about you. And, of course, ultimately, the good Lord cares about you too and loves you. Well, see, that to me, I'm so glad you said that because that's at the heart of this.

I mean, the reason we partner with CSI, Christian Solidarity International, and not any number of others with whom we might partner is because it is, We have a worldview that is not materialistic. We don't believe that a pill and food and shelter that it ends there. There's this thing called love and encouragement. It comes through the love of Jesus expressed through the folks that CSI uses, employees, volunteers. People who ministering, they are ministering. They are not just disbursing funds and food. I remember it's amazing now to think that it's over 20 years ago,

But here in New York, when we had the crisis at 9-11, one of my best friends, the Reverend B.J. Weber, was ministering at a site near downtown. And a woman came in, a Hispanic woman came in distraught. And some social worker or whatever literally was putting an anti-anxiety drug in her mouth without really even asking her. And the woman said, I do not want drugs. want to pray. The woman said, I want to pray. And I think this is why we partner with CSI, because you all understand that hand in hand with giving people material necessities, basics, they need the love of God, they need the comfort and the presence of people who have deep faith in the God who died for us, and that is CSI. Forgive me, I'm going to tell the phone number.

Folks, metaxis talk.com, you'll see the banner. But if you feel moved to call, we would really appreciate it. It's 888-253-3522. Again, 888-253-3522. Dr. I'm so grateful you shared that because that's at the heart of why we partner with CSI, why we value you guys. Well, I appreciate that because we do not get government money. We are not the recipients of grants from USAID or the United Nations or any other.

Thank God. The funds that come to CSI are coming from committed Christian people, mainly at the grassroots level, who have love in their hearts, and they give because of that love. And we want to be the transmission of that. And so, as you say, we're not simply giving food, giving medicine, giving shelter, providing mattresses, providing the basic necessities which people do need. They do need them. But we want to convey the love of our donors.

And that is a hallmark of CSI. And as long as I'm leading CSI, it will remain that way. Well, folks, you've heard that. We'll be right back with Dr. Ibnner. Please, please help. MetaxusTalk.com. You'll see the banner there, or if you prefer to call 888-253-3522. We need your help.

888-253-3522. God bless you. Really excited I have from Zurich, Switzerland, right now with us, Dr. John Ibner. He's the international president of Christian Solidarity International. You know that we partnered with them. again and again. They show the love of Jesus in every kind of way. Right now, we know in the Ukraine, there are literally millions of people who have been chased out of their homes, who have fled their homes, fled for their lives with their kids. They have no place to live. They have

no food. They have no medical supplies. They need our help. And so we reached out to CSI, CSI has partners on the ground, Christian organizations that are showing the love of God in helping these people. And we want you to join us in that. Dr. John Ibner, thank you so much for joining us. What can we say to get people to understand the urgency of what is happening? Well, it's a catastrophe what is happening. And there are tens of millions of people who are either force, out of their own homes living internally displaced, refugees abroad, or are still caught up in the

terrible conflict zones with shells going off, blasts all around them. And it's something that hasn't happened in Europe really since the Second World War, anything on this scale. And the human suffering is incredible. It's often in some ways concealed or the full magnitude is not. not so visible because the whole issue ends up being politicized through the mass media. And so we are sometimes distracted from the extent of the human suffering, and it affects all of the people in the Ukraine, whether they think of themselves as ethnic Ukrainians or some kind of either Russian background or other minorities, whether they're evangelical Protestants, Catholics or Orthodox, it's impacting all of them without distinction.

That's the point. And I see it as every crisis is an opportunity for the gospel of Jesus. These are suffering people. And Christians through CSI come in to help them, to show the love of God, that they are loved by God. There's a God who cares. And he has sent you and CSI with your partners to show the love of God to the people. I mean, I'm amazed as I read that, you know, not only did many of them not have food, medicine, and shelter, but they don't have pillows, blankets, heaters, every kind of basic

thing. When you leave everything, ladies and gentlemen, if you're listening, you have an opportunity to show the love of God to all kinds of people, some of whom may have some idea who God is. Maybe they identify as Christians because they're not Muslims or they're not atheist, but maybe they've never seen the real thing. I want to encourage you to call, to do whatever you can. Go to metaxis talk.com, please. There's a banner, metaxistalk.com, or you can call the number I'll give you in a moment. But I want to say that $70 provides food and resources for one week. Obviously, $280 provides it for a month. Some of you can give that. Some of you can give that. Some of you can give a fraction of that. Some of you can give much more than that. Whatever God lays on your heart,

but this is an opportunity for the gospel. I want to be blunt. It's an opportunity for us to show the love of Jesus through CSI. We trust CSI. And I thank you, Dr. John Ibner, all the way from Zurich Switzerland, coming on this program at a difficult hour. But we have to get the word out. Folks, the phone number, I will give it to you now. Please do what you can. 888-253-3522. again, it's 888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. Or go to metaxis talk.com, and you'll see the banner. Dr. Eibner, God bless you and your efforts.

God bless CSI. Thank you so much for letting God use you for his purposes in our time. Thank you. Same to you, Eric. Thank you so much.