The Eric Metaxas Show - Phelim McAleer and Catherine Engelbrecht

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

Phelim McAleer has a harrowing story about "infiltration" by Hunter Biden's lawyer on the set of the movie, "My Son Hunter"; then, Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote provides the facts from Salem Media's film, "2000 Mules."

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They are behind numerous important things, most recently filming something called My Son Hunter, which is the story of Hunter Biden and the laptop. And we have Phelam in the studio in New York. Phelan, welcome. Thank you, Eric. Always glad to be on your show. You and Anne are genuine journalists,

and you've done many things. You did the film about Gaznell. Before we get into the, if I may say, shocking story of what happened to you recently. Huntergate. Huntergate. Serbia, Kitt. Or Giette. If you're Irish, it's Gitt.

See, I knew it. That took about a minute. That took about a minute before he makes fun of my access. Okay, I want, for the record, I want everyone to go back through the previous interviews with Eric Matagas on every occasion. I can't help it. He has made fun of my accent. I'm not making fun. It's an homage.

No, honestly, I love the way you talk, and so maybe you think I'm mocking you, but I do think that it's my love language, so stop it. Destroy the village to save the village. The film is my son Hunter, and something just happened to you and to Anne, and Anne emailed me about it, and it was shocking. It is. So before we say what that is, just tell my audience why you're in New York for Gossnell and tell us then what happened. I mean, I don't think I'm easily shocked. I mean, you know, I've been to New Jersey, you know. I've seen a few things.

I'm staying there at the moment. But this is genuinely shocked me. I've covered the troubles. We infiltrated baby selling rings in Indonesia. People are in prison because of our journalism. I've got punched more times than I've had hot dinners. I covered the troubles in Northern Ireland. This is one of the most shocking things that ever happened to me.

I've covered the Gosnell trial. So when we were in Serbia filming the Misan Hunter movie, you know, three guys arrived. And one of them was called Kevin Morris. Okay, now this is where it gets creepy and scary and this is true. But before you share that, for those people listening who are not familiar with the film that you and Anne are making, tell us what is is this film because you've been on the show, but not everybody listens to the show every day. My son, Hunter, is the film. It's about Hunter Biden's dodgy dealings.

I say it's part Austin Powers, part John LaCarray, part House of Cowards. It's about Hunter Biden's dodgy dealings. It's about Joe Biden's dodgy dealings. It's an absurdist romp through Hunter Biden's drug-addled past and possibly present. And it's true. It's true. I mean, the best source of it for a lot of it is Hunter Biden's, autobiography where he talks about.

I mean, this is a guy who says, I had to leave the board meeting of Burisma every 20 minutes to take a crack hit, you know, to get some crack in my system. This guy was getting paid $83,000 a month by Burisma for four years. Like, he was paid millions of dollars. He was part of a $1.2 billion fund that was part owned by the Chinese government. He was getting money from the former mayor of Moscow's ex-wife, $3.5 million.

money was just flowing in from these foreign sources and he has emails. Joe Biden is cut in for 10%. Joe Biden is cut in for 50%. This is a, you know, these are facts. So anyway, you know, that's the facts. Well, no, not anyway. I want to be very clear.

So in case anybody's driving and they're half listening, this is true. Yes. And Phelham and Ann are journalists. Yeah. And they're making a film about this. A movie. I'm sorry.

Yeah. I'm sorry. Whatever the difference is. The Irish guys interrupt. in a movie. Stop it. This is what happens when you let Irish people into the room. But my question is, you're making a movie, okay. But the point is it's true, and it's about the biggest story there is.

We're talking about corruption in the White House, corruption at the highest level with our foreign enemies. Everyone ought to be clamoring to cover this. And as we know, it's crickets. That's how you know we're living in truly mad times. But by the grace of God, you and Anne are covering this, you've been covering this, and you are making a movie about it. So now you're filming this movie. Yes, and it's a, you know, it's a movie movie in the sense that we have Lawrence Fox,

the British actors playing Hunter, John James is playing Joe Biden, you know, Gina Carrano's. And so this is a, you know, an absurdist movie for an absurd situation. And so next thing, I get word, that there's a documentary. film crew in town and they're want to come on set to make you know as part of their documentary Now you're in Serbia I'm in Serbia now when was this last week

This was beginning of November last year Oh okay so this while you're filming this in November In Serbia and the reason of course you're filming it in Serbia Is because you get tax credits A lot of these places are trying to Well yeah there's always that But I mean Serbia doubles as the Ukraine, Serbia's Eastern Europe

Hunter Biden did a lot of his dodgy dealings in Ukraine. So that's one of the reasons. And, you know, there's a lot of beautiful women in Serbia. There's a lot of strip bars in Serbia and you can't make a movie about Hunter Biden without beautiful women in strip bars. You know, I have tried, and you're right. I haven't been able to make a movie without those elements. So, okay, so the reason you're here today, Phelam, is you and Anne have been in New York with a play because, of course, now we're in May 2022.

but a story just broke. Anne sent me the email and she said you've got to have a fail amount to talk about it. So what you're talking about took place in November. You're filming this film and somebody comes claiming to want to make a documentary. About Hunter Biden. And his name was Kevin Morris.

He's an Uber Hollywood lawyer. They flew in in a private jet. He's part of the South Park team, the cartoon, adult cartoon. The Book of Mormon, they do that. They've just signed a $900 million streaming deal. He said they were going to expand their content and they're now making documentaries and they wanted to come on set and film the set and do interviews with me and do interviews with the actors, which they did and we give them unprecedented access. Fast forward.

To promote the film, of course. To promote the film. I mean, by the way, I'm pretty open anyway. Fast forward. I opened the newspaper, as they say, the other morning. And it turns out, Kevin Morris is not a retired lawyer. He's a very active lawyer. He's representing Hunter Biden. His job is to craft legal and media strategies for Hunter Biden. Part of that job, and part of the thing he wants to do,

is discredit people who are spreading smears about Hunter Biden. Discredit. I think he means spreading the truth. Exactly. He wants to make the truth sound like mere smears. And so he literally flew. across the Atlantic Ocean to Serbia in a private jet on whose dime I don't know. Yeah, good question.

In order to get this information from you misrepresenting who he was. Yes, totally. And, you know, that's an ethical breach for a lawyer with heart of doubt, not saying... Even for a lawyer. Yes. And we know they're not averse to ethical breaches. But in this case, a clear ethical breach. There was someone infiltrated the set of...

of Micea Hunter under false pretenses. Now, apparently, maybe he is making a documentary, but he's also representing, and his firm admitted to CBS News, that he is representing Hunter Biden, and he is crafting a legal and media strategy for Hunter Biden. And part of that seems to be go and misrepresent yourself or misrepresent yourself by omission and infiltrate our set.

Interview me for three or four hours to try. I assume if you stitch something together, there'll be something embarrassing coming out that I said or one of the actors. You know, I mean, the headline here is that Hunter Biden's lawyer, extremely wealthy, extremely well-paid, big deal, flies on a private jet to Serbia from L.A. With two associates. With two associates. and comes on to the set, interviews you under false pretenses, and obviously now we know why he did this, because his client, Hunter Biden, is in very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very big trouble.

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It's not your audio. He's Irish. Phelam McAlear. The film... Oh, go on. Make fun of my accent again. It wouldn't be a segment about me. It wouldn't be a segment about me without making fun of my accent. Now, listen. This is cultural something. I know. It's appropriation.

My Son Hunter is the film that you and Anne have been making. It is a true story. Yeah. It doesn't make it any less bizarre, crazy, entertaining. But it's true. Yeah. And it's horrific. Yeah.

And it's starring Lawrence Fox. Now, Lawrence Fox of the, The famous Fox family of actors in England, big deal. He ran for the mayor of London. Gina Carrano, another famous actress, canceled, just as Lawrence Fox was canceled. So you're hiring these canceled talents. And you're making a film. And again, this was in November of last year.

And it just came out that the man who came to interview you misrepresented himself on the set in Serbia. Turns out we now know this. was one of the very well-paid lawyers for Hunter Biden. Exactly, exactly. And I mean, he completely, I'm just looking at what CBS News reported. CBS also reported that according to Hunter Biden's criminal attorney, Christopher Clark, Kevin Morris is serving as an attorney

and trusted advisor to Hunter Biden. That information was kept from us when we allowed him to roam ourselves. And why? Because obviously, if you knew that this guy is working for Hunter Biden, you certainly would have not granted him access to the set. Well, by the way, I might have, you know. But, you know, I don't know. Probably not.

Probably not, actually. You know, but... Well, you know he's there to do you and the Project Harm. There's no question about it. I have nothing to hide, right? But, you know, he's going to go in. He's gone in there to try and get me saying something inappropriate or to get someone on the set saying something inappropriate

or to have the, you know, to have somebody using bad language or in temperate comments, you know. And it's like, it's a bit pathetic, really, actually. You know, this is a lawyer. And this is what he's at. This is the level. Rather than fighting facts. No, but isn't that the point?

I mean, this is the point. This is why you're on this program now is because what do we learn from this kind of behavior? They don't have the facts on their side. The facts are marshaled against them. And so they have to do what you do if you have no ethics and you want to win. You go on a fishing expedition to come up with anything you can possibly come up with to string something together to put enough doubt in the mind of the jury.

That's funny. That's what CBS is saying. He's going on. He wants to spread a narrative. And they're saying that questioning even the chain of custody of the laptop, questioning where the laptop came from, how it was disseminated. And he was asking me a lot of questions about that, right? And, you know, who my sources were, what information we were using in the movie.

He was asking me, what did I know about how the laptop came to emerge and all that? And it's like, you know, that's the most journalised piece of information. Everyone know, funny, it's not because the media tried to ignore it. But people have been very obvious and open about where it came from. And it's a sign of the desperation of the Hunter Biden side that they're even, this. Well, look, again, we have to say we're talking about levels of corruption. And again, folks, it really doesn't matter where you are politically. The idea is that we hope you're against corruption and you are for truth. So if we can agree on that, we can have a conversation.

And the behavior of the Bidens, you know, you can find many, many people who are lifelong Democrats who know that a career politician like Joe Biden has made. made grotesque compromises. He's done things over the years. It really is very, very ugly. And now that he's in the White House and that his son Hunter has, I mean, you won't remember this, but in the 70s, Jimmy Carter, the president, had a brother, Billy Carter. That's right.

And Billy Carter was, you know, kind of like an embarrassment because he might say things to the press and so on and so forth. So it became a funny thing. But when you compare that to what is happening here, now we have a man in the White House whose son is not just involved in criminal dealings, but just it's about as sorted as it can possibly get. And most of this stuff is on the laptop, and the media has done everything to squelch this information.

Yeah, and you know, our movie is not making fun of Hunter Biden because he's an addict, but it is part of a story. and Kevin Morris was, you know, very smart, you know, talked about his, his addictions to Kevin is an addict. He said, he told me. And, you know, or was an addict or whatever the phrase he, but who knows, maybe he wasn't. Maybe that was just part of the, because we had this conversation about addictions and what is, what is his addiction, you know, because it's a very funny thing. And I think there hasn't been enough research done on what is, how are some people addicts and so other people aren't or not. So we had this deeply philosophical conversation about addiction,

and he talked about his own addictions. And then I'm thinking, was any of it true? You know? Was everything he's saying? It's possible that every word he uttered was a lie, including and and the. What a way to live a life, though. Well, but I mean, I want people to know your credentials as well, that you and Anne covered the Gossinnell story,

one of the most grisly horror stories in modern American life of this man, Kermit Gossnell, who murdered more babies than, I mean, I, it's so, the details are what's so grotesque. And it's why actually you're in New York. Tell us briefly what you're doing in New York. So we're doing a verbatim play. So I popularized verbatim theater where you take the actual courtroom testimony. And everything in the play is only actually. courtroom testimony. I did this was Ferguson.

Used only grand jury testimony to tell the last hours of Michael Brown's life and the truth turned out to be very different from the media spin. I did this with FBI Lovebirds, Peter Strz, and Lisa Page's text messages. And now I'm doing it with the Gosnell testimony and

the Gosnell Grand Jury report. And it's a story of it's a true crime story. It's also a story of redemption. It's a story of death. It's a story of heroes. cops and prosecutors. And it's a story of justice,

eventual justice, but it's also a story of how the establishment in order to protect the sacred right of abortion looked the other way and hundreds of not thousands of babies died. Women and then several women died, several women were mutilated.

This guy, this is a guy who was involved in something called the Mother's Day massacre in 1973, right? That's what the media called it. The Mother's Day massacre, where he mutilated 11 women and he was let kill. I've never heard of it.

this. Yeah, he was let kill. No one thought that, we need to keep an eye on him. His place was not inspected for almost 20 years for his last 20 years. And this is in Philadelphia. And again, this is always in the poor black neighborhoods. They feed on the poor. It's just so,

it is utterly criminal. It's horrifying. So, yeah, so we thought we'd bring this play. So what happened was we were doing reenactments for a podcast we're doing on Gosnell. And then I saw that JJ Abrams, the Uber Hollywood producer, is bringing a play to New York,

oh God, a show about abortion. Sorry for the blasphemy. That's the name of the play. Oh, God, a show about abortion. And I thought, ooh, it's a one-woman comedy about her abortion. And who is in that? Well, Ilanid Lezer is presenting the actress, and then the person who's doing it is Alison Levy, who is a writer on the

marvellous Miss Maisel. And I thought, you know, if they can laugh about it, we can tell the truth about it. So we're bringing the the Gaussinal play is running the same time, and it's in the Chain Theatre Manhattan. The chain theater in Manhattan. And it's this weekend.

Yes. And it's called, for details, Gosnellplay.com. So it's May, what, 13th, 14th, 15th, something like this? Gosnolplay.com. Gosnellplay.com. New York City, May 13th, 14th. The reason I say this is because if anybody's in New York

or if you know anybody in New York, that's the kind of journalism that Anne and Phelham do. It is heroic. It is beautiful that there are folks like you do this in the chain theaters. The website again? Gosnellplay.com. Gosnellplay.com.

So while you've been here in New York doing this, and I hope people can see it, this story breaks. That the interview you gave in November in Serbia was conducted with a man who clearly is trying to do you and the film My Son Hunter Harm. Yeah.

It's, what a life, you know. You know. Can you imagine being Hunter Biden's lawyer? This sounds like a joke. It's like being Hitler's grandmother or something. Like what? I don't know about that. But no, but it's also like, you know,

Kevin Morris, he claimed to care about Hunter, you know? Or he claimed to care about addicts and he claims. Now he's saying he's his friend and his trusted. If you are Hunter Biden's friend, Kevin Morris, you need to stop running around the world trying to smear people who are telling the truth. You need to look Hunter Biden in the eye and tell him the truth. truth and tell him he's nothing but an entitled

Silver Spooned you know, woke up in third base and think he got a home run No, I thought he had a triple. But that's okay, you're from Ireland. You don't have a home run. You haven't cut baseball in Ireland. We woke up on third base, thought he had a touchdown, you know?

Yeah. We're going to go to a break. Folks, more with Phelham McAleer. Again, the film, which will be coming out this year, it's all my son Hunter. Meanwhile, the chain theaters, you can go to Gosnell Play.com. We'll be right back. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis, and they have no clue how to fix it. Oil prices have skyrocketed, and when oil prices go up, the cost of transportation and shipping spikes, leading the prices of goods to rise.

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You're daring to do it in Manhattan. And this is one of the things I just wanted to say, how vital this is, that you're daring to do this in Manhattan. I live my life as well in Manhattan. On May 31st, we're doing something. It's the antithesis of incendiary or provocative. We're hosting Apollo 16 astronaut Charlie Duke at an event. Anyone who is in New York, I invite you to go to Socrates in the city.com and come to that event.

But if you're in New York this weekend, you owe to yourself to see this play. And you said it's gaznellplay.com. And you call it verbatim theater. Yes. Which is all you're doing is every word in that play was taken from a courtroom testimony or from the grand jury report. Every word. There's no. So it's a great way of telling a story because you've got all these eyewitnesses telling, you know, from all these different points of view about the one incident and about the one series of incidents.

And, of course, in a courtroom, there's no political slogans allowed. There's everything you say has to be backed up by evidence, you know. So therefore, the truth tends to come out, you know, it's really, it's... It's, well, it's an extraordinary thing. What interests me, Phelam, is that when you have somebody like George W. Bush and the White, House, or you have somebody like Trump in the White House, the left, which is to say, the mainstream media and the entertainment world, they go crazy creating plays and narratives and cartoons and movies, making fun of them. When you have someone in the White House who is as

preposterous a cartoon figure as anyone could ever imagine, they don't say one word. It falls to two transplanted Irish people to do this kind of thing. Yeah, no, it's weird. I mean, the Hunter Biden story should be on Saturday night life from beginning to end. It is a gift that keeps on giving, you know. But it's great to be a Democrat. It's great to be a Biden. You get your lawyer flies halfway across the world in a private jet.

Probably Chinese money, right, is paying for this. You know, it's great. And you don't go to jail. You can take money from foreign countries. You can cut your father in for 10% or 50%. and Saturday Night Live are still talking about Trump, you know? Yeah. And it's like, guys, it wasn't even funny when you did it the first time,

but it ain't funny this time. Like, you've got Hunter Biden video himself doing basically everything, you know. I think you should exercise your brains a little bit, guys, and do something funny. Well, again, what makes it, you know, really creepy is that when it was Billy Carter in the 70s, It was actually funny. Now it is like pointing a gun at the heart of America. You have as nefarious actors as you can possibly imagine in places like China and Russia. And you have them wanting to use any possible advantage they can against us.

And you have a willing hack, corrupt politicians saying, hey, if I can make some money in it, keep my kid off the streets. I mean, it's kind of, it's epic. That's an epic and pathetic, you know. Hunter Biden is an addict by his own admission. And, you know, Kevin Morris and those people, rather than looking him straight in the eye and getting them help, they're facilitating them, they're trying to smear their opponents.

Joe Biden, rather than getting his son help, used him as a bag man to enrich his family. Well, that's a fact. Yeah. I mean, that is an absolute fact. and the emails and whatsoever in the laptop shows this. We had Rudolph Giuliani sharing some of this with us here. And listen, it doesn't matter who you like or don't like or whatever.

This is a level of reality that we've got to deal with this. You cannot have – I mean, everybody should have compassion for an addict or for – of course. But if that addict is being used in a deeply cynical way, you've got to confront them. I mean, my prayer for Hunter would be that he would come clean, that he would try to let God redeem his life by telling the absolute truth. Because Americans are very forgiving. And if somebody does that, genuinely, we tend to forgive him.

Well, the problem is, you see, left us to America is not very forgiving. Well, they're not the ones that have to forgive him. Yes. Hunter looks around and he sees how people like, you know, Gina Cranos in our movie, she did one tweet. Her career was finished over, right? So he goes, well, we're not very forgiving. can't tell the truth. He doesn't know that real America is very forgiving. He doesn't understand.

Yeah, real America, Christian America, conservative America tends to be forgiving of people who come clean and tell the truth. I mean, there's always going to be some cynics, but by and large, your heart goes out to someone if you see that they are a train wreck and then they really tried to improve. But if you double down and hire super high-powered lawyers to fly across in private jets, to smear those. who are trying to get the truth out. But what it tells most of us, Phelam, is that we know by that kind of behavior, what is at stake? Yeah.

I really brought it home to me. I thought we were in Serbia, you know, making a movie and, you know. But this is big, this is the big leagues. When you get visited in Serbia, you know somebody must be taking in a special interest in what it is that you're doing to come all the way to Serbia in a private jet. Yeah. If they'd flown coach, it would be even more impressive. But, well, we're out of time, folks. If you want to see this play in New York, Gosnellplay.com.

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But now all of your work comes to fruition in the film, 2,000 Mules. I have the honor of participating in the film. Tell my audience what you can, that they wouldn't know. about this film? Oh, how hard it was to get the research to actually make it. It, you know, it comes across because of Dinesh's talent as a very sort of elegant package, but the true story of how it came to be and the amount of data and the amount of heartache that we had to juggle was significant.

Well, I guess I want to get to that because there are people, let's be honest, if you've seen the film, and again, it's 2,000 mules. Since we're not affiliated with Fox News Channel, we're allowed to promote the film 2,000 mules. And I want to say that if you've seen the film and if you don't have an animus against what it says, it's rather obvious that its complicated forensics went into this. And so I love the way people just kind of wave it aside. Catherine, I mean, anybody who knows you or bothers to get to know you knows that you don't take this lightly. You're not some activist. You care about the truth.

So describe to my audience who haven't yet seen the film. What is the forensics involved where you're able to pinpoint dramatic levels of criminal activity? I mean, again, this is dramatic doesn't really do it justice. Go ahead. Right. Absolutely. Well, what we relied upon was cell phone data taken from. your apps, apps on your phone. So this is a technology that's really only been in play for the last

four or five years at this level. It is reliant upon apps on your phone that are sending up signals that give a great deal of information about your location, about everything from your lat long to the elevation of the phone, and of course the time. And so with that as the backdrop, as you begin to aggregate apps, you begin to get a very clear picture of what a pattern of life looks like. And that's broadly referred to as geospatial data.

So that's the data that we purchased to begin to ferret out the patterns of abuse around drop boxes, which we determined by frequency how many visits were paid to drop boxes and you can do that again by creating a basic digital fence. The whole world is is geocoded digitally, digital fence around the drop box, and then how many times a cell phone

went through that fence? It's a simple equation, far more complicated than it sounds, but it's a simple equation that then after, you know, we have that much data, you can begin to see patterns rather quickly. So what are people saying, because I've looked at a couple of articles where people are trying to poke holes in this? And I think, frankly, it's impossible to. If you've seen the film and you're at least halfway honest, I don't know how anybody can possibly poke holes in this,

but they're trying. What are they saying? Sure. I'm seeing three things. The first is just sort of a general attempt to disregard the science behind the geospatial data, as if it's inaccurate. And what's curious about that is the same data that we used, is the same type of data is what's being used in the J6.

committee and was used to arrest hundreds of people. The same data was used by the CDC to make sure that people socially distanced and stayed in their homes. This is very, it's used, it's used by law enforcement all day every day. I mean, the military uses it to call in drone strikes. This is very exacting data. So to dismiss it is, you know, is not, it just doesn't make sense. I mean, you can't be intellectually honest and dismiss the data. That's number one. Number two is we're hearing people say, well, why didn't you show the same person going to multiple drop boxes? And that's a fair ask. The fact is that we have very, what you saw, the data that you saw, the video that you saw was remarkably clear. And that was true in about

two of the dozens of cameras that we retained the video for. Most of the video is often. is pointed at the ground, is pointed at a corner, is the lenses covered with debris, it's, or it wasn't there at all. And so while we have video that shows, when we know this because of the geocode, we know this because of the pings, we know it's the same person. But, you know, you're expecting people, I think, are expecting to see on the big screen, you know, the full, the full frontal of these people going box to box to box. And I wish that that were the case, but it's just, you know, the thought,

that anybody was using this video as video surveillance is just not true. So that was the second thing. And then the third thing, I think, is a question about how do you know what's being put into the Dropbox? And that's a, you know, that's a longer story for a different day about the exploitation of dirty voter rolls. Well, I want to have you back. But in a couple of minutes we have left, people often just don't want to believe that this happened or they want to minimize it or they want to make it sound like you're making something of nothing. You're making it sound significant when it's just minimal stuff. But you do have the goods. In other words, you have a lot of hours.

You have a lot of data that you were not able to put into the movie, which I know you will be releasing. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And I think it's also, you know, our point in all of this is this is a failure of process. This is an exploitation of vulnerable communities. It's voter abuse. I mean, we really have to look at what this really means on both sides of the aisle when you have a process like this that can be so easily abused. It really is. It's just unbelievable.

Again, having watched the film a couple of times now, it just beggars belief that the breadth of this operation, I mean, how many people are out there wanting to make a buck, willing to keep their mouths shut, look the other way to do something. Maybe they think they're helping, you know, their team. Maybe they hated Trump and they thought, well, you know, we're not doing anything really, really wrong. And the more you look into it, the more staggering the breadth of it is that this happened all around the country. We're talking many, many, many thousands of criminal actors. We're going to be right back a final couple of minutes with Catherine Englebrecht. True the Vote is the website, True the Vote.

Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Catherine Englebrecht, who is with True the Vote and who really is the principal player behind getting the evidence that Dinesh D'Souza put in his movie, 2000 Mules. It's simply astonishing. Every single American needs to know what happened. And we have to get the word. out. Catherine, I just want to ask you, what has been going on? Well, actually, before I ask you that, what is True the Vote and how can people find out more about True The Vote and what you're doing? You can check out trothoVote.org. True the Vote is all about the power of citizen engagement

and encouraging people to take action. In the 2020 cycle, we became more involved in, let's just call it election intelligence, the use of this research to try to expose what was happening. But in the end, it all comes back to the American people. So it's about getting citizens involved and there are all kinds of things that you can see and do from our website. TrueThevote.org. Right. And it seems to me, you know, if you want to know who are the good guys and the bad guys, all you have to do is see how people behave. And it seems obvious that people have tried to cancel

of film. They have tried to wipe it out on Rumble. They've tried to mess with True the Vote. We see this happening over and over and over. There are these really evil people. They don't want the truth to get out about what happened. What is the latest on this? Because every day there's some new piece of somebody playing some game to squash this. Well, probably the most recent is we were kicked out of our supercomputer lease space, Opsack was, Greg's team was. So, you know, well, I shouldn't say kicked out as much as they just, our lease was set to renew and they're not renewing it next month for this.

So there's a lot of things like that that occur, but look, we knew what we were signing up for. We knew this is going to be a war. And it is a war, but I mean, I was very encouraged you were with us the other day in Las Vegas doing this virtual premiere. And to think that 80,000 people tuned in and many more. tried to get in. My wife was among them, and it had been shut down by that point. You could only get 80,000. But the idea that 80,000 people tuned in for this virtual premiere, these are engaged citizens. And I think more and more people are realizing, if I don't do something, if I don't spread

the word about this, I am to blame for the corruption and for what's going on. What is your hope in terms of arrests? Everybody keeps asking, is anybody going to get arrested? What do you suppose might be coming? Well, look, I have great hope, but I also know that these are very long and involved investigations. And to really get to the source, you have to track the money. And this will involve law enforcement stepping in and using the tools that they have that, frankly, we don't, to do just that, to really peel the layers back. I'm very hopeful. But it is so, you know, this is such a highly charged subject.

and the vast majority of law enforcement would rather just scrape this under the rug and pretend like it never happened. So we'll see. I'm hopeful, but regardless, we have to press off. But we know that there are some good folks out there. Listen, how many Americans have been praying and praying and praying that somebody will step up? We know that it will happen. Catherine Englebrecht, we're really grateful to God for you, for your courage in the midst of this.

You represent millions scores. of millions of Americans who want to know what happened. I want to tell people, please see 2,000 mules. You can go to 2,000 mules.com and do whatever you can just to get the word out, because our nation will no longer be a nation if we don't know that our elections are safe and secure. So Catherine Engelbrecht and everybody involved in 2000 mules, God bless you and thank you for being with us. We've all seen the atrocities being perpetrated on the people of Ukraine, a country where 70% of their people profess to be Christians. CSI is providing food, shelter, medicine, and supplies for our brothers and sisters fleeing their homeland.

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