The Eric Metaxas Show - Prime Minister Salih Hudayar

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

In this not-to-be-missed interview, Prime Minister Salih Hudayar provides the latest on the struggle to restore East Turkistan's independence and to end China's Uyghur genocide.

to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Folks, welcome the program. We've got a lot of interesting guests today. But right now, we're talking to a journalist from Rebel News to talk about what's been going on with this pastor in Canada, Pastor Tim Stevens. Adam Seuss, am I pronouncing that right? That's right. That works. Adam, what part of Canada are you?

you in and how do you know have you been covering this situation with these Canadian pastures being oppressed, suppressed, persecuted by the Canadian government? Yeah, so I'm in Western Canada, not quite on the coast of Alberta, so we're kind of the Texas of Canada. And I'm in Calgary. So it's kind of the oil country of Canada. So very, very generally conservative kind of territory. So I've been covering the story pretty closely.

my colleague Sheila Gunnreed, dealt with James Coates up at Grace Life Church. That's the church, as you likely saw, which was fully fenced off and completely shut down and the pastor spent 35 days in jail. Since that time, I've spent quite a bit of time

with Pastor Archer Pavlowski. Of course, you've likely seen the viral video of him shouting, get out, get out, and the authorities fleeing rapidly. So I was intimately connected with that story. And now most recently, I've been on the story of Pastor Tim Stevens. So in our province alone,

we have had three pastors arrested simply for gathering for worship. Well, we've had this kind of thing going on in the United States, but we haven't had arrests. We've had persecution fines a lot of trouble. The idea of arresting a pastor seems to be, to us in the United States, to be extraordinary, bad optics. Why is the Canadian government, do you think, taking these kinds of horrific actions?

Well, one of the great ironies is that our Premier, who's effectively like the Governor of a State, the Premier of our province, used to work in federal politics. And he was one of the great international sort of advocates for religious freedom. Now no one will remember that. Everyone will only remember him as the Premier who locked up pastors. What is his name?

Jason Kenney. Okay. Yeah, so Jason Kenney. He's actually less popular than Justin Trudeau, our Prime Minister, in our extremely conservative province. So that tells you how upset people are about what's going on. It's really hard to put your finger on why they're doing this. It doesn't make much sense at all.

Other groups are gathering and they seem not to bother them. There's other massive protests going on. The police don't close in. But it seems if you're overtly critical of the government or if you're a Christian pastor, it's open season, especially if you see some of the footage of these arrests of pastor being torn away from his family, in the case of Tim Stevens or Pastor Art Polowski being arrested on the side of the highway,

you'd almost think they're going for the worst optics possible. Maybe in their minds they're showing a strong sort of unified front against opposition, but clearly that's not the way the world is taking it. Do you think Jason Kenney has a particular animus toward Christians? And that's the vexing question, is that he himself is a practicing Roman Catholic. So I don't. Nothing. Joe Biden is a practicing Roman. No, and I mean, they're not practicing hard enough. Of course, no. And I mean, I think, I think traditionally he would have been viewed as someone who adhered to Christian values. One of the thoughts that I've heard

repeatedly is that no one's going to cry out discrimination or persecution against white Christians. So I feel like he feels he might be able to make an example of these people without other communities sort of decrying him as a bigot. So I've heard numerous people suggest that. But again, the entire instance is incredibly vexing, particularly the malice with which they're going after these people. I can't explain to you. Tim Stevens, like Arthur Polowski is a very outgoing and strong and sort of, he can rub people the wrong way. I understand about him. Tim Stevens is a meek dove.

He's a gentle, gentle, loving man. And they had two, like, large swat van vehicles and about five police SUVs corner him and his family in the parking lot of their church as they were trying to leave. to proceed with the arrest. Like two officers could have walked up and arrested him. There's this ridiculous show of force that indicates to me a clear level of malice that's not warranted. So what are the people of Calgary have to say about this? Are they standing up? Are they willing to fight back?

So, I mean, I think there's a different mentality in Canada, unfortunately. I think as we didn't really have to fight for our freedoms, obviously in wars and things like that, but we sort of ask for independence. I think we have this mentality of like, oh, everything's going to be okay. and we don't really have to fight for these freedoms. They sort of assume it's a baseline. So the province is extremely divided, and I think it's more divided than ever. And you have people saying let him rot in jail, good, put him away, he's risking lives.

And on the other side, you have these people saying, leave the pastor alone. There's no cases of outbreaks in these three pastors, churches. It's just not based on scientific evidence. They're clearly being targeted. So I think the province, to be honest, is more divided than ever, as is the country. So what is the state of Artur Polowski right now? So, and it's a very life situation. For Pastor Archer Pavlowski, he's actually been released.

And it's a very complicated legal letter. There was originally a court order put out on May 6th that basically stipulated that protest was illegal. It mentioned one specific instance. We've had our pastor rebellion. We've also had a bit of a restaurant rebellion. Some restaurants are opening and flouting the sort of orders, and they're just doing that intentionally as an act of defiance. So that court order specifically referenced a whistle stop cafe,

which has been the sort of head of the restaurant rebellion here in Alberta. So that kind of took place. And this court order was mandated against them. But they added on that court order, including Jane and John Doe. And authorities took that to meant anyone gathering anywhere can just be arrested. So you show up at a protest opposing this. You just get thrown in jail. And that has happened, unfortunately.

So Pastor Archer Polowski is, one of the sort of cases that's fighting that James Coates was before that, but Pastor Artur Povlowski's case pertains to that court order. That's why he was arrested. So he's released now, but he agreed to bail conditions for the time being to adhere to those rules. So he's out of jail, but for the sake of his legal defense, he's not going against the rules. Next Thursday is his court date, actually. No, Wednesday now, sorry, they changed it. Wednesday is his court date. And that's when he's going to fight in court to set the legal precedent. For Pastor Tim, Stevens, they actually offered to release him on Monday, and he refused on principle because he

would not agree to those bail conditions because he found the memorial. And also the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, who is representing Tim Stevens, said that the arrest was illegal in the first place. So we've just learned that this morning, Pastor Tim Stevens was also let go. And he basically has 24 hours to propose amendments to these bail conditions. So I know that's a lot of legal jargon, but I think the context is important. Well, I think it's very important. I also think, you know, it's important to say that just because somebody, just because you don't have a culture of fighting back doesn't mean that it's not time to fight back. In other words, I think people have to really think these things through logically because we all want to be nice. But, you know,

when war comes to you, you have to fight. And this is really a war on basic liberties. I, I'm not familiar with the Canadian Constitution, but it seems to me that the idea of religious liberty, it's as basic as it gets. And so the idea that some of these folks would heavy, in a heavy-handed way, try to crush this kind of dissent, people have to push back however they can. And what's jarring about that is a judge,

there's actually Section 176-2 of the Canadian Charter that actually stipulates that it's categorically illegal. It's a charter right. You cannot interrupt ongoing. worship. A judge actually signed off to waive that so that they could come arrest pastors in the middle of worship. That's a fundamentally enshrined Canadian charter right. And a judge said, no. My Bonhofer book, I didn't, I don't like to think that some of the things that I wrote about happening in Germany in the 30s are actually happening in places like Canada. But I just

want to say these things have happened before. If you don't fight back, bad things happen. Fortunately, my Bonhoeffer book has just recently been translated into Canadian. So if there are people in Canada who want to read it in Canadian English, they can do so. That was a joke at him. It was good. I was laughing. I was just, I was scared that you were, you were thinking that I'm really insane when I'm just making it. I'm faking it. No, but honestly, it is a chilling chilling thing to talk about pastures being arrested. Again, it brings up Germany to me. This is what happened. People have to stand up. So we're really grateful to you for reporting on this. Adam Seuss, thank you so much. My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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We're following what's happening with the Uyghur Muslim population. And right now I have on the Prime Minister of the East Turkestan government in exile. Prime Minister, Salih Houdiar. Prime Minister, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. We have met in person a few times through our friend Jason Jones, and it's very difficult for many Americans to follow what is happening around the world. There's so much happening at once. If you don't mind, give my audience a brief overview of what is happening and why you are the Prime Minister of East Turkestan in exile.

Help my audience who doesn't know anything about this or the geography or the politics. So in 1949, the newly established People's Republic of China or Communist China invaded and occupied East Turkestan, overthrowing the East Turkestan Republic. Since then, it's been engaged in a campaign of colonization, occupation, and genocide, resulting in many of our East Turkestanese, mostly Uyghurs, fleeing into exile through Central Asia, into Europe and North America. The government in exile of East Turkestan was initially called the East Turkestan National Committee before it was later reframed as the East Turkestan National Congress before it was formally called the East Turkestan Government in exile based in Washington, D.C., in 2004. I was elected as the Prime Minister of the government in exile in November 2019 at the 8th General Assembly.

And what's happening in East Turkestan is today many people are aware of the Uyodor genocide. The U.S. government, the Parliaments of Canada, the UK, and the Netherlands have recently designated China's atrocities as a genocide. There has been sanctions against Chinese officials. We also have put a case against China's officials at the International Criminal Court. China is conducting textbook genocide as defined under the UN Genocide Convention, from including forced abortions of over 3.7 million babies between 1979 and 2009 to mass sterilization of hundreds of thousands of women, we would another trick of women in recent years,

to the mass internment of what the U.S. Department of Defense estimates to be at least 3 million and possibly more people in concentration camps. In the past two years alone, the Chinese government has caused a significant that decrease in the birth rate of our people. They have set the birth rate at zero percent in some places across East Turkestan to where over 160,000, you know, births have been prevented just in the last two years. When you say births prevented, what do you mean?

So this is part of Chinese government's policy is to prevent the growth of our population. So they are restricting, you know, babies from being. born by, you know, forcefully sterilizing our population, locking up, you know, significant portion of our population into the, into the camps and giving out fines and prison sentences or even sending those to the camps who have had more than two kids. Let me ask you, so people understand this. I've heard the name of this ethnic group of which you are a member, the week. Uyghur, how do you pronounce this word?

So we pronounce it as Uyghur. And although majority of Uyghurs are Muslim, we have a significant minority Christian and Buddhist populations among others. And so we're talking, of course, of the extreme western part of what China claims is the nation of China. And you said that it took over this area in 1949. and has continued throughout these decades to repress the population of your people? Yes.

The Chinese call it Xinjiang, which translates as the colony or the new territory. So they've really been trying to wipe out any traces of ethnic identity. In other words, they're basically saying, you have to be Chinese. We won't even tolerate you asserting your ethnic identity or your identity as Muslims. Absolutely. I mean, even our historical sites, including, you know, churches, mosques, all of these have been destroyed. In addition, you know, are even our graveyards, even those, you know, that have previously exist, you know, that have passed away. Even their bodies have been exhumed and the graveyards have been decimated to where the Chinese government has built parking lots over them in some, you know, national, in our, national graveyards of our former heroes and leaders. They built a military base over it.

These are the type of things that China is doing to disconnect us from our past. And also they're forcing, you know, over 850,000 children. And this is according to the Chinese government itself, have been forcibly separated from their families to be sent to state-run orphanages and boarding schools to be raised and indoctrinated as, loyal Chinese citizens. This is as brutal as anything

I've ever heard, nearly a million children separated from their parents. It's an unthinkable evil, but it's gotten very little play in the international press. Was there any point where

our government in the United States was speaking about this? In other words, when the Clinton administration gave most favored nation status to China. Were they aware of this? Had this become a non-issue in the 90s? I mean, in the 90s, after the fall of Central Asia,

there have been a lot of activism for, you know, independence in East Turkestan. Initially, this was seen, you know, by the West. You know, the Western nations actually tacitly supported it or they acknowledged it. However, as China entered into the World Trade Organization, China began to engage in these massive atrocities that's been ongoing for a long time,

but Western nations began to remain silent. It was only with the Trump administration that the United States began to speak out against these atrocities more forcefully. And it was a Trump administration who recognized, it as a genocide at their last day in office. And with that, the U.S., the incoming, the current Biden administration under President Biden, Secretary Blinken reaffirmed Secretary Pompeo's stance

that this is indeed a genocide. And this has led to the UK, Canada, the Netherlands, and more recently last week, the U.S., Germany, Canada, the United Kingdom, and a total of 10 other countries held a high-level meeting on this issue at the UN. So somehow the UN cares about this, or is it just these nations you've mentioned? Unfortunately, the UN has been largely silent as a whole. It's specific member states of the UN, led by the United States that has been speaking out. The UN, unfortunately, the Human Rights Council, China is a member of the Human Rights Council, and they are the chair.

They're also, unfortunately, the current chair of the UN Security Council. So they have been blocking efforts by the UN to raise this issue. Did you just say that China is the chair of the human, Human Rights Committee at the UN? Yes. I'm astonished at this. How is this possible? This seems to render the UN even more preposterous in my estimation than they were before.

How can such a thing exist when we in the United States of America are saying they're guilty of genocide and that they're the head of the Human Rights Commission at the. UN? Yeah, unfortunately, there are a lot of countries on the UN Human Rights Council that are notorious for engaging in, you know, mass human rights violations, and China is leading this. This is one of the main reasons that the Trump administration had actually withdrawn itself from the UN Human Rights Council because it essentially became a joke. So it sounds like Trump was it was on the right side of most of this and that that hasn't really been continuing.

We're going to go to a break. Folks, I'm talking to the prime minister in exile of the government of East Turkestan. This is very important. We'll be right back. Prescription dispensing labs is a national licensed pharmacy specializing in personalized prescription and natural medicine. The pharmacists at PD labs are credited with formulating unique nasal sprays for the dreading. brain fog and a leader in uncovering new compounds to improve your health. PD Labs is one of the first pharmacies to now offer a telemedicine group trained in prevention medicine and how to restore

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exile of the East Turkestan government. Prime Minister, you're telling us things that are very disturbing, but we need to face them. You said that the Biden administration, quote unquote, that they had accepted former Secretary of State Pompeo's idea that there was actual genocide happening among the Uighur Muslims living in the eastern part, western part of China. So is that the official position of the Biden administration? Yes. This has been, luckily, thankfully, this has been reaffirmed by Secretary Pompeo, I mean, Secretary Blinken numerous times. In fact, more recently last week, the U.N., the U.S. at the U.N., they stated that,

you know, they are going to continue speaking out against China until it stops the genocide. But we're evidently still planning to hold the Olympics in China. Yes, and this is something that is extremely disturbing. I mean, this is a genocide Olympics. By attending, you know, by even, you know, attending at the Olympics, we are inadvertently supporting China's, you know, genocide. We're giving them prestige. We're giving them, you know, we're rewarding them for the actual.

that they are engaging. We have been calling on the United States and other governments in the free world to boycott the upcoming Beijing 2020 Olympics and to urge the International Olympic Committee to relocated to a different country that is not engaged in crimes against humanity and genocide. I'm really astonished that, you know, Germany was not involved in genocide in 1936. We have to remember that when the Olympics were held in Berlin in 1936, the Nazis were not yet engaged in anything even approaching genocide. That came later. And yet we're willing, it seems, to hold the Olympics in a country that's been participating in genocide for some time. And what are the nations that have declared this? So the U.S. was the first to recognize it as a genocide, which

was followed by the Parliament of Canada's, the Parliament of the UK, the Parliament of the Netherlands. There are other parliaments in Europe that are debating on recognizing as a genocide. New Zealand and Australia are also debating on recognizing it as a genocide as well. So do you think that by officially designating it as genocide, it would mean that these nations would not participate in the Olympics? We're hoping that by recognizing as a genocide that this would, you know, have them fulfill their obligations under the UN Genocide Convention and the UN's responsibility to protect commitment by, you know, acting against these atrocities. And the first, you know, step, you know, an easier thing to do by acting against it is to boycott the Beijing 22 and to Olympics.

And how does that looking right now? Right now, no country has yet stated that they are going to be boycotting the Beijing 2020 Olympics, but there are increasing pressure from organizations, including Christian organizations across the United States and across the world and Jewish organizations that are calling on, you know, the international community, especially governments in the free world. to boycott this and to urge the Olympic Committee to relocate it to a different country. Well, for those who are not following this issue, tell my audience, what is China doing to the Uyghur population, particularly to the Uyghur Muslims in what was East Turkestan? So inside East Turkestan right now, again, there's over 3 million people

that are locked up in concentration camps. In addition, you have millions more that have been given long prison sentences simply for being, you know, we were for simply for being the owners of East Turkestan. In addition, hundreds of thousands of women have been forcibly sterilized. Over 850,000 children have been forcibly separated from their families. And tens of thousands of UyWR women are being forcibly married to Chinese men. In addition, you have at least half a million. rewards, possibly even more, that are being sent to factories across China to be used as

slave labor, and tens of thousands of rewards are being killed for their organs as part of China's organ harvesting campaign. And their organs are unfortunately being sold to Muslims, wealthy Muslims across the world as halal organs. When you say halal, explain that for my audience, who doesn't understand the concept of halal in the Muslim world? Or halal means that they have, you know, they haven't consumed, you know, fork or alcohol,

and they, like, had a relatively culture diet. So because they're faithful Muslims, they are being murdered by the Chinese government for their organs, because fussy, religious, Saudi Muslims don't mind that people are being murdered for their organs so that they can use those organs

if they need an organ transplant, just to be clear. Absolutely, and there has been numerous, you know, testimonies and evidence about this. In fact, prior to, like, years ago, like around 2010, there was less than 10,000 transplants, organ transplants in China as a whole. by 2017, this has increased to over 70,000 transplants annually. We're going to come back. These are numbers are staggering. Folks, it's the Eric Metaxa show. Please stick around.

Hey there, folks. I'm talking to Salih Houdiar. He's the prime minister in exile of the East Turkestan government. These are the Uyghurs who have been horribly oppressed, persecuted, murdered by, the Chinese communists. Prime Minister, tell us the numbers again. You said that recently, the Chinese government, in the last four years, I guess, they are murdering healthy, weaker Muslims at the rate of 70,000 per year,

70,000 intentional murders per year for their organs. Are those numbers correct? Yes. So prior to 2010, at that, time, according to organ transplant researchers, China had an annual organ transplant of about 10,000 per year. However, by 2017, this increased to over 70,000 with the mass internment of rewards. And the Chinese government itself, their state media, reported in 2018, that between 2016 and 2017, the Chinese government collected the DNAs, voiceprints,

and retina scans of 36 million people between the ages of 12 and 65 in East Turkestan along. They're collecting genetic information for the purposes of oppressing these people and in many cases, murdering them. Yes. We think that the reason they're collecting this is to easily match potential, you know, potential, you know, organ transplants with, you know, the receivers. But there is also other disturbing, you know, theories based on China's bio-warfare strategy textbook, which states that they have the, excuse me, which states that they have the capability to engage in, ethnic-specific genetic attacks against China's enemies.

Say that again. How can they do that? I'm not clear. So China's, the People's Liberation Army's Biowoverfare Strategy textbook from 2017 stated that China now has the capabilities to engage in ethnic-specific genetic attacks against China's enemies. When much of China's DNA gene base, like so when they've killed, elected the forced DNA collections of millions of over 36 million people in East Pakistan.

Mostly, we were all that genetic information was actually controlled by the People's Liberation Army. So you mean that they are using the best technology to murder people by ethnic groups? In other words, the Nazis only could dream of having this technology. They didn't come close to this. but the Chinese government today has the same ideology, the same disregard for human life, but infinitely superior technology to do the wicked things that they would like to do. Yes, and that's what we fear.

We have no confirmation that they are indeed doing this. We have evidence that they are engaging in organ harvesting on a mass scale. But when putting the two pieces of the puzzle together, there are, fears that they might be developing, you know, ethnic-specific biological weapons or they might have already developed ethnic-specific biological weapons. When you see somebody wearing Nike shoes, I mean, do you think about the fact that Nike is using slave labor to make these shoes? I'm fascinated that people aren't talking about this more publicly. Yes. In fact, I, myself, have, you know, boycotted many of these companies.

that have been using the slave labor of rewards. We have videos of Reward's, you know, being forced to make, you know, shoot like Adidas, Nike, and other, you know. It's also Adidas. Editors, Skechers and Nike. Skechers is separate from Adidas. Yes. There are videos of Wee Waters being forced to work in factories producing these goods, these shoes. And it's not just shoes.

There's also, you know, electronic components. In fact, more recently, seven of Apple's suppliers were found to be using the forced labor of rewards. What do you make of this, Prime Minister? Do you think that the heads of Apple, Nike, Adidas, sketches, do you think that they're aware of this? They're looking the other way? What do you think they would say to participating? and actually economically encouraging this kind of evil. What do you suppose their position is?

I'm sure they're absolutely aware because in Congress, we have a bill called the Uyghur Force Labor Prevention Act. And companies like Apple, Costco, Nike, Coca-Cola, spit millions of dollars lobbying against this bill. Okay, you just mentioned Costco, Coca-Cola, and Nike, but you mentioned Coca-Cola and Costco. How are they, and why would they lobby against this bill? So Coca-Cola actually has a plant in East Turkestan,

and some of their products, I guess, you know, from the bottles and stuff like that are produced in East Turkestan and other parts of China and then shipped, you know, across the world. So what would, the way that it would impact them is this bill would have to, the companies would have to ensure that they are not using, you know, forced labor or slave labor. And if they are, they have to, you know, not only seize this, but pay a huge fine. And so companies are going to lose profits in this aspect. And that's why they are lobbying against this bill. We've just got a minute left.

What can people do who are listening right now? What do you suggest? The basic thing that everyone can do is to. obviously spread more awareness and in the United States, you know, to write to our members of Congress and ask them to support the Uighur forced labor and prevention act and to support the Uyler Human Rights Protection Act. Well, the forced labor act you just mentioned, so is that in committee right now? Where is that bill?

So it passed the House. The Senate, it's been stuck in the Senate in the committee. In fact, they have to reintroduce it again. So it's still stuck in the committee at the point. Well, this is just astonishing stuff. We're very glad to have you on the program again. Prime Minister Salih Houdiar, Prime Minister in Exile of East Turkestan.

I hope everyone listening will never buy another Coke product or Nike product or Adidas or Sketcher. Folks, we've got to speak up. God is watching. Prime Minister, thank you. Thank you for having. Folks, welcome back. I have to ask everyone.

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