The Eric Metaxas Show - Randall Terry

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

Randall Terry of Operation Rescue talks about the vision that began the organization and the new film, "DragonSlayers," that documents the success of the movement.     ...

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Starting point is 00:00:50 I continue my conversation with Randall Terry. Let me just underscore. This is an important conversation. You need to write down Randallteri.com. You need to visit Randalletary.com. We are talking about making a documentary. Randall is making a documentary that tells us the history of the movement where we're counting it right now, the very, the very,
Starting point is 00:01:09 brief version, but it is a seminal, it's a seminal piece of American history that we are discussing right now. If you want to know, how is it possible that Rovi Wade got overturned? How is it possible? It began by God's grace with Operation Rescue. I mean, before that, of course, it began with Francis Schaefer. God is always doing things, but we have to know the history. And, And as Randall, you were saying, this is about where we are now. We need to revisit this so that we know where to go from here on because we've got a lot of issues facing us. The abortion issue is still central. But let's go back.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You were talking about the movement exploded in the summer of 88. You're in Atlanta. I happen to be in Atlanta now as I'm taping this with you. And tonight, I'm speaking at a. pregnancy center banquet. A thousand people will be there tonight here in Atlanta. They are doing God's work here in Atlanta today. When you started this in 1988,
Starting point is 00:02:21 there barely were any such thing as these women centers that are trying to get women to choose life, pregnant women to choose life. So here I am. I happen to be here, you know, by God's grace. I had a guy who runs five pregnancy centers in the Carolina. call me and say, if you need me to ever come and say, what we're doing is the direct fruit of Operation Rescue, you just call me. Because we wouldn't have even done what we're doing if it wasn't for you plowing ahead and opening up the middle for groups like us.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Listen, yesterday, yesterday, I was in Raleigh, North Carolina, and I was the main speaker at Gateway Women's Health, a pregnancy center in Raleigh, North Carolina. I traveled here to Atlanta, I'm speaking tonight. This whole movement has risen up over the decades. And on this program, we're telling the story of how that happened. So take us back to 1988. You decide to go to the Democratic Convention in Atlanta. And you're put in jail.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Tell that story again. All right. So we, I'm on C. CNN Crossfire with Pat Buchanan and Mark Green, Mark Green says, what's next? And I say, we're going to Atlanta to the Democratic Convention. We had no plan, nothing in place, no infrastructure, nothing. So my staff, they just went crazy. And we started sending out letters and making phone calls, begging people, please come to Atlanta and join us and go to jail for three or four days during the convention. So we get there. There's 137 of us that go on the first morning of the convention.
Starting point is 00:04:07 we go to an abortion clinic and we sit down and we start praying, the police arrest us. And when they take us into custody, they said, what's your name? And we said, all the men said, my name is baby John Doe. And all the women said, my name is baby Jane Doe. Because we wanted to identify with the babies who had no name. So nobody had identification with them, don't had any money. We knew that they would hold us. and they had this huge warehouse facility with cots.
Starting point is 00:04:37 They brought us in. They put us there. And they thought, okay, well, they're being smart. Alex, they'll give us their name and we wouldn't do it. So after a couple days in this big place, they put us in the Key Road prison facility, which was another mistake on their part, because they gave us an entire wing of the prison.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And during the day, the men and women could hang out in a big area together. and we sang and prayed and had preachers in jail, we had prayer meetings and Bible studies 24-7. I mean, literally all day long. And while we're there, the police are negotiating with us, and they say, okay, on Friday, the end of the week, we'll just let you all go. Time served. Well, the attorney for the Doe v. Bolton case, now we all are familiar with Roe v. Wade, but it was actually two cases, Roe versus Wade and Doe versus Bolton. The Doe case was critical because it defined health of a woman. So when they say a woman has an abortion for her health,
Starting point is 00:05:40 that can mean financial health, emotional health, up to the day of birth. So the attorney for Doe versus Bolton, Marjorie Pitts-Hames, she said to the city council and to the police, don't you dare let these people go without giving their names? So we found out that she was the problem. And man, you know, I'm in my 20s. I've got a bunch of young advisors around me. And I thought, you got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You picked the fight with the wrong people. So I went on Pat Robertson, CNN. They were letting me do interviews from jail. They would bring cameras up to the fence and let me do interviews or do them on the phone. And I issued an ultimatum. I said either the police let us go. Or we're going to call people from all over the country to come and fill the jails of Atlanta and to go to abortion clinics day after day after day.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, the deadline came. The deadline went. They didn't let us go. And so we started doing every interview we could from inside jail. Pat Robertson, the 700 or the James Dobson's news broadcast, the guy from Texas who's passed away, started USA Radio Network. We just had tons of media coverage because it was really new and interesting and exciting. And people literally started to come from all over the country. And that summer, we had over 1,600 arrests in Atlanta. People just kept coming.
Starting point is 00:07:19 20 people get arrested one day, 80 people the next day, 50 people the next day. It just went on and on and on. And then we said, okay, now we're really getting momentum. And this is why this was so important. The, if you look at the polling data in 1987, abortion was not even in the top 10, not in the top 10 voter issues. By election day of 1988, ABC evening news exit poll showed that abortion was the number one voter issue in the 88 election. Number one, the only thing that changed from 87 to 88 was that thousands and thousands of Christians were getting arrested all over the country saying abortion is murder. We cannot vote for Michael Dukakis. So once Atlanta got all this attention, we then said, hey, let's have national days of rescue. So we invited people to come for
Starting point is 00:08:25 training and then we said now you go home and you recruit your friends and so we had i don't know it's been over 30 years now but we had over 50 cities that held rescues in october all over the country seattle albuquerque Memphis Nashville new york Washington DC Chicago and dominating the news because you got all of a sudden all of a sudden you got hundreds of people coming out of nowhere getting it arrested. It was like the civil rights movement all over again, except it was for babies. That is the spark.
Starting point is 00:09:03 That's summer of 88 and the siege of Atlanta. That's the spark that happened that gave rise to this explosive movement that ended up with over 75,000 arrests in the next six years. This is, it's unbelievable stuff. This happens to me all the time. Like I hear something, and I think this is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It's unbelievable. And then I think what's really, unbelievable is that so many people don't know this story. That's the crazy part. And that's why it's my joy and my honor to have you on this program, because people need to understand that there was no pro-life movement to speak of. It began because by God's grace in the 1980s, the Lord picked a young hothead, gave him a vision, started this movement. I mean, it really is. so vital. So people need to go to Randaltary.com.
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Starting point is 00:12:12 Legacy p.m. Investments.com. Check it out. Folks, I'm talking to Randall Terry. Oh, man. Randalletary.com. Randall, again, a lot of people know you as an iconic figure. You're a legend at this point. but so many people don't, which is fascinating, how I always say, or I should say that I have often said when I wrote my book about William Wolverford's, which has tremendous parallels to the story of the pro-life crusade, the battle to end the slave trade in the British Empire. So many people have never heard of William Wilberforce. And you think, why have they not heard of him? part of the reason is because of the success. In other words, Wilberforce succeeded in making the slave trade and slavery so unthinkable
Starting point is 00:13:14 that we kind of really even talk about it anymore. Everybody knows slavery is wrong. You know, most people haven't heard of Jonas Salk because we don't have a polio problem anymore. It's interesting that when you're really successful in moving the dial on the culture, People kind of move on. They forget there ever was a day when evangelical Christians couldn't care less about the unborn. And it's only because of Francis Schaefer and because of Randall Terry and a handful of others that Christians who claim to believe in Jesus and the Bible suddenly understand, oh, that means killing the unborn is wrong. Fascinating to think about.
Starting point is 00:13:57 There's a phrase that I heard years ago, Winners write history. And so every child in America learns about the civil rights movement, you know, ending the Jim Crow laws and ending segregation because they won. The reason that my name and the name of Operation Rescue is not known to so many young people is because up until now, we haven't won. But now that Roe is overturned, there's a documentary crew coming around that I'm a central part of their documentary and it's on Francis Schaefer. And the whole, it's an HBO documentary. And the whole premise of it is that Francis Schaefer gave this theology and Randall Terry took it to the streets. So I'm saying to people, look, Dr. Schaefer gave us the theology. Dr. Martin Luther King gave us the tactics.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I just combined them. And we went out into the street and it went to seed. So when these tens of thousands of people got arrested, many of them went on into politics. People have been elected to the U.S. House, many people elected to the U.S. House who were arrested with us. Many people have become campaign managers. They work in campaigns. They've fought to get control of the Republican Party in their area to make it the pro-life party. It didn't used to be this way.
Starting point is 00:15:18 People don't even know that there were pro-life Democrats and pro-abortion Republicans. Operation Rescue is what sealed the deal to help push the Republican Party to become the party of life. It wasn't just us. It was others, but we were really the central dynamo. And if I could, Eric, this will help people to understand why this discussion is important for the future. I want to give you, in brief summary, Randall's Rules of Righteous Revolution. All right. Here's what it takes to change the culture. Number one, you need a group of people who use radical rhetoric. Number two, they have to. have incendiary images. Number three, they have to have aggressive action. Number four, they have to have
Starting point is 00:16:08 serious sacrifice. And then number five, they have verifiable victory. So what I did as a young man when I started all of this is I studied the abolitionist movement, the Boston Tea Party, the end of child labor, the women's voting rights, the end of segregation, the end of segregation, And as I studied all of these social revolutions, a symmetry became clear to me. Every single one of these movements had radical rhetoric. They said things that were really offensive. And so we have to say abortion is murder. We can never equivocate on that.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And then number two, they all used incendiary images. All of us have seen the images of black men hung or the backs of the, the backs of them, of slaves beaten or little grimy children dying in coal mines. You know, these images or the Jews piled up in the concentration camps. If somebody got into a concentration camp with a camera and took pictures and then got out and did not show those pictures, they literally would have been a collaborator with the Nazis. And there are Christians in America who are saying, oh, you should never show the image of an aborted baby because it's offensive and it might hurt people's feelings.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Well, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. You use that logic for slavery or racism or anti-Semitism or the Holocaust. It's absurd. You have to show the victims. And then the third thing is aggressive action. The young people of today want to win this war in cyberspace. They want to do a TikTok or they want to do a reel for Instagram or do a blog. You know, those things are fine.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But imagine Martin Luther King trying to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge in cyberspace, you know, with a TikTok, you know, or going to a lunch counter sit in in TikTok. You've got to have real aggressive in your face action that is in the street. And then the fourth thing was serious sacrifice. We are not going to finish this war to end the killing of babies without real sacrifice. And that serious sacrifice means my time, my energy, my reputation, I might have to spend a couple days in jail. I might have people hate me.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I might have people threaten me. I mean, I've been, I've had so many death threats. I can't even count them. And police, the FBI, coming to me and saying, we've got a guy in custody. You know, and it wasn't fun. But we're not going to win this war unless we get out of our comfort zone and do and say and show the truth. with valor. And then in the end, you have what's called verifiable victory.
Starting point is 00:19:04 There's no place you can own a slave in America. Women can vote anywhere. Black people can eat lunch anywhere they want. No children are dying in coal mines. It's total victory. And that's what we're after in the pro-life battle. Total complete victory. It's so wonderful.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I want to tell people again, go to randletary.com. Now, I just want to ask, So Operation Rescue was launched in 1987, ended effectively in 94. Why did it end? And what have you been doing in the roughly three decades since it officially shut down? The Clinton administration made it their mission to break our back. So Janet Reno in one of her first press conferences said that her main objective was to stop Operation and rescue. Janet Reno was the Attorney General
Starting point is 00:20:01 for Bill Clinton. And in case people don't remember her, she looked a lot like Susquatch. Yeah, she was not a lot of good. A lot times people get the names mixed up, but she was the Attorney General that looked a lot like Susquatch. No, listen, I have to joke around because it's
Starting point is 00:20:17 such bitter, sick stuff we're discussing. Yeah. And she was an evil person. She was evil. Well, yes. They passed the law. The administration decided. Think about this, folks. I want you to, I want you to hear. the Clinton administration decided we want to break the back of Operation Rescue. Let's think about that.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Why? Why would they put everything on the line to end a movement, a peaceful movement, to end abortion? Why would the Clintons do that? But they did. So go ahead. Well, they were baby killers, is the answer. They believed in shedding innocent blood. They were the villain in the story.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And by the way, the tragedy is how many Christians voted for. for Clinton. How many Roman Catholics and evangelicals voted for Bill and Hillary or Bill Clinton is unthinkable, but I digress. Well, no, you don't digress. This is a big thing for me, Randall. Big thing for me because it's happening today. Or a lot of people are so pious they don't vote. Shame on them because innocent blood is on their hands and they have to repent. We allowed this. We allowed Bill Clinton to be elected and he's the work and he's not as bad as the people on the Democratic side today. It's gotten more and more overtly demonic,
Starting point is 00:21:35 the things that they're advocating for. And you have many Christians foolish enough not to understand how vital, how central these things are, that we have to get involved, and that that's what it means to be a person of faith. That's what it means to be active in your faith. Or rather, that's what it means to have faith,
Starting point is 00:21:54 is to be active in your faith. So just a minute left in this segment. Keep going. They tried to shut you down and they effectively succeeded. They were successful. They passed a law called the freedom of access to clinic entrances, face. And that law has been in the news recently because of what happened to that man up in Pennsylvania who was falsely arrested. And now there's some people in Virginia who have been arrested under this and some people in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:22:19 They made it a federal crime to block access to an abortion mill. So we went from having to face, you know, a little bit. misdemeanor charges or little violations or local police, local judges, to the full power of the FBI and the federal judiciary, and it effectively broke our back. Plus all the lawsuits. On the day that I filed bankruptcy, I had 27 active lawsuits against me. I just want to say, folks, this is all on the test. You're responsible for this information.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 I'm a middle-aged man now holding on desperately to middle age. but it's a fearful thing when evil controls government. And that's what we're seeing today. When you have a president who as a candidate, as a candidate, I was in Philadelphia. Oh, you asked me, what have I been doing since then? Well, I've been doing radio. I've been doing television. I've been making movies.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I've been writing books. We recently released a time travel movie. This beard that I'm wearing right now is scruffy. I look scruffy because I'm going to play a villain in a movie this summer about fentanyl and the drug trade. We've got a time travel movie that's just been released, a second time travel movie. What is the title of that movie? Time Boys. Time Boys. And it's got over 60 awards.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's, it's, and I mean in secular film festivals, it's a fun, action-pack time travel movie with super famous rock and roll singers and rock and roll players playing. Now, listen, this is, this is too, you're doing too much. We got to have you back to talk specifically about time boys. All right. I'm not kidding, because I don't want to talk about it now because we're not done with this. So we got to have you back soon to talk about time boys, and we will do that. But let's just continue the narrative here.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So the federal government comes after you. Yes. The pro-life movement. Ladies and gentlemen, are you listening? And they shut down Operation Rescue. This is 1994. It's an extraordinary thing. And yet the movement continued and continued and continued.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It went to seed. What I tell people is, unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it abides alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit. So they shattered the rescue movement. But it went to see. and those seeds became active in the political world. There's a book called Wrath of Angels, W-R-A-T-H, Wrath of Angels, written by two journalists.
Starting point is 00:28:28 One of them is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Jim Risen. These people are not our friends. They're not pro-life activists. They're secular journalists. And the premise of Rath of Angels was that Operation Rescue was responsible for the establishment and the growth of the religious right, that the religious right as a powerhouse
Starting point is 00:28:51 that would not go away ended up coming because of Operation Rescue going to seed. So it was a bitter pill for us, as you can imagine. But it was, it's why we ended up going into the political realm
Starting point is 00:29:11 with such fierceness. And I've spent, you know, the last 28 years of my life, involved in campaigns going after Barack Obama going. I ran for president. I got to tell you this, Eric, I ran for president in 2012 as a Democrat just to be on the ballot in a handful of states against Barack Obama so that I could run ads showing images of aborted babies. And I said in my ads, if you vote for Barack Obama, you have blood on your hands. And that message resonated. I ran in Oklahoma, I beat a sitting president in Oklahoma in 14 counties.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I carried the entire panhandle of Oklahoma in 2012 in the Democrat primary. So I didn't, you know, I'd be the president. If they want me to be the president of the panhandle of Oklahoma, you're the definition of crazy like a fox. You are the definition of that. You remind me to some extent of my very dear friend John Smirak, because you are very creative. When the scripture says,
Starting point is 00:30:16 to be wise as serpents, were to be crafty. You did that. You were very crafty and very creative in the way that you battled. And a lot of times people are very flat-footed in the way that they battle. But to be creative, to understand how to use culture,
Starting point is 00:30:33 how to use media, how to manipulate media, what happened in 88, how that went wrong for their side and right for the day. So it's fascinating to me that, you know, it's only now that many people are even aware of you because, as you say, in 94, the kind of the movement officially ended the organization. I went to prison. The day after the election in 94, I started when Newt Gingrich and the Republicans took the
Starting point is 00:31:06 house, the day after the election in 94, I started a five-month federal prison term because of my role in showing candidates. Bill Clinton, an aborted baby. We brought him face to face with an aborted baby. A five-month aborted baby that was taken out of a dumpster. Now, wait a minute. Not a photograph, a baby.
Starting point is 00:31:28 A real baby, yes, an aborted baby. A lot of people don't know that story. We're going to go to another break. But this is a fact, ladies and gentlemen. This is all this stuff needs to be known and documented, which is why we want you to contribute to the film called Dragon Slayers to this documentary series.
Starting point is 00:31:45 In order to do that, you should go to randletary.com. It is vital that everyone know this story. These stories will be right back talking to Randall Terry. Final segment for now with Randall Terry. You've got to go to randletary.com. You've got to become a part of telling the story, this documentary series, Dragon Slayers, vital, vital stuff. But I want to go back to this part of the story because,
Starting point is 00:32:41 Randall, so many people have never heard of these things. It was 1992 or it was 92 when you brought an aborted fetus right to Bill Clinton. Tell us, I mean, this is genius activism. I want people to understand. This is daring genius activism. This isn't winsome. useless activism. This is genius. You found a murdered baby, the body of a murdered human being in a dumpster. Tell us about this. A friend of ours found this baby boy in a dumpster, 19 weeks
Starting point is 00:33:26 gestation. His body was burned by the saline solution that killed him. He was buried properly, eventually. So we held a press conference in New York City during the Democrat Convention in 92, 88 is when we had the big thing in Atlanta, 92's was New York. By then, we're international news. And if we show up and I came on the scene, the media was going to cover it. So we showed the baby to the media. And we said, we are going to show this baby to Bill Clinton during this weekend. We had no idea how to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 We were praying. We were fasting. And a federal judge, Robert Ward, saw me on TV. So he issues an order from the bench saying neither Randall Terry nor his associates shall show Bill Hillary Clinton on the island of Manhattan and aborted fetus, blah, blah, blah. So now if I show him the baby, I'm in contempt of court. So we figured out where Clinton was staying. We figured out his schedule. I called a friend of mine, my co-host in radio, Harley Ballou.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I called up Harley and I said, Harley, and he needed to be. I need you to come to New York right now. I need you to not watch the news. Don't listen to the news. Don't read a newspaper. I need you to come. I've got something for you to do. Do not listen to the news.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He said, okay. So he drove to New York and I said, Bill Clinton is staying in this hotel. We've got you a room. He will emerge out of this door. We showed him where at 6.15 in the morning to go jogging. I want you at that door with this baby. We put the baby in a plastic container, a see-through salad container.
Starting point is 00:35:08 salad container. So he stays at the hotel. He doesn't know about the judge's order. So he stays at the hotel. Clinton comes out of the door at 615, goes straight to his limo to go jogging. And Harley is there going, Bill, Bill, I want your autograph. Clinton went into the limo and then changed his mind and got out of the limo and walked straight to Harley. So this is a God moment. Harley's got the baby under a USA Today newspaper. He hands Bill the newspaper to be autographed. Clinton is autographing it. And then Harley says, Bill, what about the babies?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Clinton looks at him. He says, what about the babies? And Harley takes the baby and holds it 10 inches from Clinton's face. Clinton looks down at the baby and about craps his pants. I mean, he jumps back. stands there staring looking at Harley, throws the paper down on the ground, goes in the limo,
Starting point is 00:36:13 starts to leave, they hit the brakes, he opens the door, throws the pen out at Harley, and then they drive off. So it was Newsday. New York Newsday gets a picture. On the front page,
Starting point is 00:36:25 the next day, of Clinton staring at this baby. So federal judge, Robert Ward, hears about it. So somebody from the media comes up to me and says, do you have any comment about this man showing Bill Clinton and aborted baby?
Starting point is 00:36:40 I didn't even know he was successful because I couldn't go there because the police were following me and watching me. So once I realized that Harley was successful, I just started jumping up and down and shouting hallelujah. And then I thought, we better get out of Dodge. So we took off. Didn't matter. Judge Board issued an warrant for our arrest.
Starting point is 00:37:00 The FBI was on its way to get us. And my lawyer called Jay Secholo, you know Jay. Jay calls him up and says, Randall will turn himself in. You don't need to send the FBI. So the next day, we go to court. And the judge says to all my compatriots, you, you, you, I'm going to try you civilly for contempt of court. But Mr. Terry has been here too often. I'm trying him for criminal contempt. So Harley, the judge kept grilling Harley and says, you broke my order. And Harley was like, I didn't know about an order. And he couldn't be held accountable without there being knowledge. He had to. He had to
Starting point is 00:37:36 to know about the order. So because Harley didn't know, here's our joke, Harley did the crime, Randall did the time. I mean, I went to prison. I went to prison for five months. Yeah, federal. He tried me and the media was all there and ABC chalk draw. I've got the ABC chalk drawing in my living room. I bought it from the artist because the attorney general for the state of New York, Abrams. You remember him. He was quite a piece of work. He was there. He was part of the special prosecutor to try me. We just stipulated to the facts. The judge found me guilty. Sentenced me to five months in federal prison. I lost all my appeals. And on the day after the election in 94, I went to federal prison camp in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And we brought Bill Clinton face to face with the fruit of his pro-abortion beliefs. I want to tell you, in 1994, Mother Teresa spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast. You know the story. You proved up the abortion issue in front of the Clintons and everybody. She did it graciously with the power and authority,
Starting point is 00:38:49 but graciously. She refused to eat with them. She would not break bread with them. She stood behind the curtain until it was a prayer breakfast and she said she would not eat with them. Well, she... Their abortion position. That's why
Starting point is 00:39:02 she's Mother Teresa and I'm just Derek Metaxis. Because When I spoke in 2012 at the National Bread Breakfast, I watched all the videos of what do people say at these bread breakfast? Because I was the speaker in 2012. And when I watched her video, I said, I'm going to bring up the unborn in my speech because she did. And I got to tell you, they're telling the story of this movement, these figures.
Starting point is 00:39:25 She's a key figure in the movement, of course, as well. Yes. We want people to go to randletary.com. Randall, that ends our time for now. but I just praise the Lord for you. I thank God for you. And I want to say we've got to continue the conversation. In the meantime, folks, go to Randalletary.com.
Starting point is 00:39:43 All my books are there, videos are there, and they can help us fund this documentary. It would be awesome for people to go. Folks need to do that. Randall, thank you, my friend. Eric, thank you, sir. Great to be with you. Folks, before we in the hour, we have what's basically late breaking news. You've heard us talking about the film nefarious over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Okay. I don't know if I mention this, but this is insane. If you want to know where we are in the culture, just think about this. If you go to Rotten Tomatoes, okay, which is a website that, you know, marks, that rates films based on audiences, it has a 96% rating. In other words, one of the highest ratings you can possibly get from audiences, but that's the first part. The second part is that critics hate it. Now, think about this. In other words, secular critics are so disturbed by this film that they've given it like 30% rating, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:11 Audiences have given it a 96% rating. Why? Because the film is, you know, you know when you're over the target? We talked about Steve Dase, the man behind the film being attacked and everything that he's been through. So, look, Albin and I have both seen the movie. We recommend it highly. It's, you know, it's kind of like Tucker said, kind of like I've been saying for a long time, this is all a battle in our lives between good and evil, but it's becoming more dramatic.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yesterday, I was on Newsmax on Eric Bowling's show talking about Satan clubs in schools across America. We are seeing evil more brazen, more prominent. and the reason the critics hate the film Neferius is because it's calling them out on that. It's dealing with the demonic as a real thing. It's not a game. It's not funny. It's not cute.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's real. So, but I said late breaking news, what the paper I have in front of me says, Nefarious is expanding in theaters this weekend. Folks, that's not supposed to happen. These films come and they go. The idea that Nefarious is in many new theaters this weekend.
Starting point is 00:42:33 This is a big deal. This is a very, very big deal. And it shows that we are making progress. In other words, when he say, is there any good news? This is a big deal. I'm just telling you, as somebody who understands a little bit about the film industry,
Starting point is 00:42:47 that's a huge, huge deal, that it's in more theaters. So please, please, if you haven't seen the film, or maybe you've seen it, drag some people with you, to see the film. People always say, I said at the beginning of the program, what can I do, Eric? This is a classic case. And nefarioustickets.com, that's where you go to find out.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Nefarioustickets.com. Okay, I didn't know that. And that's where you find a theater. Nefarioustickets.com. But you've got people say, what can I do? This is the kind of thing you can do. Now, I want to say this, too, that the movie is rated R because of one intense scene. I'm here to tell you that is garbage. There is no reason this film should be rated R. None. So it's not for little kids, no.
Starting point is 00:43:36 But the idea that this is rated R, this is because the movie industry doesn't like this film. This movie industry is threatened by this film. They want it to go away. They want to promote whatever junk they're promoting. So I just want to tell you you need to see it. Nefarious Tickets.com. Please find a theater. And I want to remind you, if you haven't given the CSI yet, you've got to.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Got to do it. It's a holy privilege that we get to free slaves. I want to give you the phone number. This is a big deal. At the beginning of the day, I said we're up to $18,000. We've got a long way to go. So thanks to those of you who have given. I have promised that anybody this week only who gives $250,
Starting point is 00:44:18 which is the amount they're saying will free a slave and set that slave up in a life of freedom, if you give $250 this week only, we will send you a hardcover copy of my book, Fish Out of Water, signed by the author. The website, of course, is metaxisotalkystalk.com where you can give metaxistock.com. Or you could do it right now, and I'm asking you, please do this. 888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. You can call right now 888-253-3522. Please be dangerous. Please be generous and take advantage of this offer. 888-253-3522. God bless you as you give.

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