The Eric Metaxas Show - Rick Santorum

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Rick Santorum, formerly senator from Pennsylvania, addresses what's being done to save the Republic through the power given state legislatures in the Constitution.

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Yeah. And it's crazy because I saw the ghost of Minnie Pearl just floated by. It's wonderful the history that is here. It's weird. We were in New York. We were on an Odouls Bender, and we woke up, and we were in Nashville. Isn't it amazing? Yeah.

We are at the national, we were at the national radio. Religious. We're at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention in Nashville at the hated Gaylord-O-Pri-Land, mega complex, 1,000% plastic. And I say that in a positive way. But it's so big that you can get lost falling out of bed. It's that big. But we're going to be talking to lots of guests this week.

I want to say already yesterday I had the opportunity of interacting with Pat Boone. Oh, yeah. You don't know what's going on. I was doing, I mean, we're doing our show here, but then I'm doing a lot of interviews on other people's shows. and I was on Kirby Anderson's show and who walks by but the great Pat Boone. And I got to spend a few minutes with Pat.

He's got a movie coming out. He's 87 years old and he has a movie coming out called The Mulligan. That's right. Which is about the man who invented Mulligan stew. Yes. Actually, that's not true. No, it's a golf.

It's a golf film called The Mulligan. And we'll have him on this program to talk about it. But earlier I bumped into Kurt Cameron, who's our friend. And we just keep bumping into people over and over and over. And it's fun. There's a lot of people here. I bumped into soupy sales. He's a hero of mine.

Soupy sales, that is just, that's amazing because he died 12 years ago. Who was that? There wasn't soupy. I hate to break it to you. I don't mean to ruin your experience, but that was not soupy sales. Look, we've got so many guests. I think in a couple of minutes, we're going to talk to Senator Rick Santorum, who was fired from CNN. That's how you know he's a good guy.

Yeah. He was fired from CNN. He was the senator from the state of Pennsylvania for many years. My state. And he is just a hero. So in a couple of minutes, he's going to be sitting right here. I'm going to be talking to him. In hour two, we're going to be talking to our friend Jason Jones, who was introduced to me really by John Zmirak.

Oh, yeah. And Jason Jones wrote a piece at stream.org about Ukraine and Russia, and I recommend that to you. Since John Smirak couldn't come to the NRB, we had to have Jason Jones fill in for them. Yes, exactly. Jason Jones is basically Johns Mierak light. And then in hour two today, we also have, we're going to have to do a rerun of Ask Metaxus. But I still have the same opinions on all of those questions. Amazing, yeah. But because of so many things that are going on, we're going to do a rerun.

Every week, Hour 2, Thursday on the program, we do Ask Mataxis. So today we're going to do it. It's just not one. But listen, I don't assume that everyone's heard every one. No. And you know what, if you hear it again, hey, it won't kill you. It won't kill you. Well.

Okay? Yeah. And if it does, you're weak, you should have gone anyway. Exactly. Darwin and all that. That's right. Thank you. Survival of the fittest.

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We are at the NRB Convention in Nashville inside a vast human terrarium called the Gay resort or something like that. It's basically a water park with non-water sections. We're in a non-water section right now. Here's the good news. I get to interview people that normally they're not in the same room as I am. For example, right now I'm sitting here next to, I don't know what to call him. His name is Rick Santorum. Do I call you Senator Santorum? Do I call you Richard? Rick Santorum, welcome to this program. Thank you, Eric. It is great. to be at your side. You are someone that I've known long enough that I do get confused sometimes. I'm trying to think in what capacity did you last have an official position and by what title

do I need to address you. Yeah, no, Senator was the last time I was elected to anything. I ran a couple of times for president, you might remember. And that's not ringing any bells. Yeah, yeah. That's sort of what happens. Listen, I well remember a lot about you. And it's a joy to sit next. to you. I'm glad you are at the NRB. There's a number of things I want to talk to you about. I want to talk to you about current events, but you are involved in what's called the Convention of States. Yes. There are a lot of people listening to this program that don't understand anything about that. If you don't mind, explain what that is. I'd love to because about

eight months ago, I didn't know very much about it. I mean, I'd heard of Conventional States. I knew that it was an issue. But all I knew about Convention of the States was, was that it was a dramatic sort of break glass and pull in case of emergency provision that was included in the Constitution and that at least when I first heard about it, I didn't think we were there yet. And candidly, you know, I saw some things happen in the past few years that have really concerned me, that we're seeing even more than norm. I mean, I was always, because, you know, I've written books.

I've been out of the campaign trail talking about the decline in the culture and what's happening in Washington, the increasing authoritarianism in Washington. But we've reached a whole new level. I mean, $30 trillion in debt. And candidly, both parties seeming unwilling to be concerned about federal authority or federal spending or anything with it comes to the power that's located in Washington, D.C. And I see presidents. You know, I loved what Donald Trump did.

Didn't always like the way he did it. I mean, I think, you know, using executive power and sort of rolling over. You know, is something I expected more out of Democrats. I hesitate a little bit when I saw the President Trump. I understand why he did it, the frustration that he had. But, you know, I guess the straw that broke to Campbell's back is when actually was Donald Trump calling for the end of the filibuster four years ago. Well, before we get to that, so there are issues, okay, the Convention of States, again, for people that aren't familiar with it, because some people are, but many are not. this is something that where do we get this idea?

Yeah, yeah, okay. And where does it, where does it? Yeah, go ahead. Let me just get that. So I was at a point in my life where I'm thinking, okay, we need to do something about Washington because I am convinced Washington can fist itself. And so a friend of mine, guy named Mark Meckler, when I had just been fired from CNN or canceled, I guess, is really the best way. Did you do something horrible? Yeah, I did.

Speak the truth. I did. I told the truth. Shame on you. I did. CNN, what are you even thinking? Yeah, I'm sorry. And so, and I would say, you know, I'm looking, you know, what's my next thing?

What am I going to do? I want to stay involved in the fight. And I talked to Mark and he said, hey, you know, I've seen you've been giving these speeches about your concern about authoritarianism and what's going on in Washington. And on both sides. He said, there's an answer that the founders created. It's an Article 5 of the Constitution. It's called a Convention of States. And I said, yeah, sort of know about it.

Don't know too much about it. And so he provided me a bunch of information and sort of, let's just say, I read myself. into the church, right? So where does it come from in the Constitution? It's Article 5. There's, you know, the fifth article of the Constitution. And most people have never heard about this. In other words, it's kind of there. It's almost like a poison pill or it's like one of those things, if things go really bad, break glass. Exactly. It is. Like if things get really bad, break the glass and there's a hammer or there's a button or there's a something. The Convention of States, in Article 5 in the Constitution, it's there. If things get really bad, the states.

Okay, do I would say, have a convention. We've never had one in 250 years. Not. Or whatever. And I would just say to any of your listeners, do you think we're not there? My listeners can't answer, but on their behalf, let me say, I think we're there. Yeah. And so that's the conclusion that I made.

And so I looked at this and said, okay, what are the upsides and the downside of this? Because, you know, this is a, you know, sort of an emergency provision. Now, I don't know if the founders looked at it that way, but I think most people who look at it today do. And here's what it is. There are two ways to amend the Constitution. One is Congress can propose amendments. And the second, never been used, as you mentioned, is the state legislatures can pass a resolution, two-thirds of the state legislatures, 34 state legislatures can pass a resolution calling for a convention to propose amendments to the Constitution.

Right. So, in a sense, take the place of Congress, who can now propose amendments to the Constitution, but create a convention where each. state will come whether you voted for it or not all 50 states are invited to come every state because it's a sovereign entity unto itself gets one vote they can they will each appoint delegations it can be what this is like the constitutional convention of 1787 except it is limited to what the resolution says it's limited to because the resolution as a is is uh prescribes the uh the germane amendments that are permitted during the

this convention. Okay? It is not a constitutional convention to write a constitution. It is a convention of the states to propose amendments to the Constitution. And so you can limit the subject matter, which this resolution does, to three things. So these are the three things. I mean, there are plenty of resolutions that have asked for a convention of the past. None of them ever succeeded.

But this one says three things. Number one, amendments can be proposed to limit the terms of congressmen, senators, and other federal officials. Number two, it can limit the spending. You only get to steal one term as president? That would be fair. Number two, to limit the spending power of the federal government. So balance budget, tax limitation, spending limitation.

Number three, to limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government. So we can have amendments that say, you know, Congress, Mr. President, you cannot legislate. in the area of primary and secondary education. Just an example. Throw that out there. Right. Okay. So why would you need a rule when I would think that would already be in place without being in place?

That what role would the president have? He doesn't have that authority already. But they do. I mean, they, I mean, you see, we have a Department of Education that dictates all sorts of policy. That shouldn't exist. I agree. Thank you, Richard Nixon. But here's what happened.

No, no, no. Thank you. No, I agree. What happened is over time, and I think this is why they put this provision in there. They knew that over time, you know, things would change. And I don't think they anticipated this, but what happened is the courts. The courts have systematically amended the Constitution to create an ever-increasing powerful federal state. And so what we need to do is get the state legislatures to pass constitutional, proposed constitutional amendments to call.

back that power to the states. Okay, so just so I'm clear, right now, and I'm going to play devil's advocate because I want to see if I understand this correctly, right now somebody would say, well, wait a minute, the states already have a voice, they elect members to Congress, they each get two senators. How is this different from that? Is this that the state legislatures are able to exercise powers that they are not currently able to. to exercise that they would need a convention of states for the state legislatures to do that? The state legislatures would call the convention. The state legislatures would appoint the delegates, and those delegates, which I assume would be mostly state legislatures, would then propose amendments. And then it would go to the state legislatures for ratification.

Right. So it bypasses the whole point, and this is what George Mason talked about, O'Dbridge Gary, Governor Morris, all of which were involved in this at the time of the convention, they wanted a way to bypass Congress and the president and governors by they, they didn't trust governors either, and let the people who were closest to the people be able to maintain the sovereignty of states. So this is, it's a fascinating concept. I mean, for anybody who understands anything about how our government works, the idea

that these founders, nearly 250 years ago, Governor Morris, Mason, and others, that they saw that we might need to be able to do this. Yeah, George Mason was the big proponent of this. He was the one who was very much afraid of federal power. He ended up voting against the Constitution, if you may recall. But he was very strident on this point. And Gouverner Morris and Albridge-Gerry both came forward with this amendment to satisfy him. It still didn't vote for it, but that was the purpose behind it.

And by way, there was no debate on the amendment. None. They just, it approved without comment. In 1787. Yeah. Okay. So right now, obviously, because of Mark Meckler, you mentioned, and others, there is the idea of having a convention of the states.

18 states have adopted this resolution that I just talked about. And how many do we need? 34. And so three of just this year. Simply by talking it on this program, we're increasing the odds. When we come back, we will continue. my conversation with Senator Rick Santorum of the great state of Pennsylvania. We'll be right back.

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That's correct. And we have another state, South Carolina, which we believe is on the precipice of voting for this. And what do you need? You need the state legislatures to say we want to do this. Yeah, because the resolution is a resolution. It's not a bill. So the governors don't have to sign it. And so if we can get 34 state legislatures and people say, wow, you're only at 18 or maybe 19. You're still a long way away. Yes, but 31, legislative. legislatures right now are controlled by Republicans. Every legislatures that has passed this, Texas, Florida, Indiana, Wisconsin, et cetera, are all Republican legislatures.

Overwhelmingly, Republicans are for this, and overwhelmingly Democrats are against this. And why would that be? Is it because Democrats are in state with big state Marxist government? Could it be that? It sounds strangely like it might be that. Or do they like centralized government control? Yes, they like to crush the week. It's a Darwinian principle.

Yeah. Okay, so this is interesting. How do you get the word out? I mean, is it by doing programs like this that people in these states? I do lots of radio and TV programs. And this year alone, I've been to 10 state capitals. And I talk to legislators and, you know, work with them. Just like you, Eric, I mean, this is not an issue that is top of mind to pretty much.

It's a new concept. It's never been done before. Yeah. It's not national media. thankfully has not started to cover this because when they do, it's going to be against it. They're going to be against it. Oh, it's going to do everything. It's going to be the convention of white supremacist states. Any second now. Exactly. So the idea is, and I tell all the legislation, look, you want to vote for this now, not, you don't want to be state 31, 32, or 33,

because you're going to have every left-wing group and George Soros and everybody else out there trying to destroy you for doing this. So, you know, I'd like talking to talk. talking about it in your radio program and talking about it to the base. Yeah. But not real interested in going on national TV to talk too much about it. Well, it's funny because I get that point, but I do think that, you know, because of the hellous circumstances in which we find ourselves, I think many, many Americans are waking up who were previously asleep.

And so I think that this is exciting. This is exciting to me because it's kind of like, you know, to actually, to actually get to see the constitutional, to get to see the constitutional, the constitutional working in our time. In other words, to see it come to life, it's historic. I tell people this all the time, but I get two arguments from people who are against this. Number one is nothing's going to happen. I mean, to get 34 states, you'll never get 34 states, or if you do get 34 states, and they propose amendments. There's no way 38 states are going to approve an amendment coming out of the convention. And then the other argument is, it's going to be a runaway convention, and they're going to repeal

every First Amendment and all these things, which, of course, there are 180 degrees from each other, right? And which is ridiculous, because I think the more likely scenario is it's going to be hard to get anything done because it's a very divided country. Right. But you make, as I'm not surprised,

you cut to the chase, which is the most important thing we can do here, even if we don't get a single amendment adopted. Right. We have now focused the American public for a period of time on our Constitution, our division of power, Who should be responsible at a time when Americans are actually worried about that.

They're worried about this authoritarian event coming out. They see what Justin Trudeau is doing. They see what Washington is doing with mandates and things like that. And it is the perfect time to have a national debate. And imagine. Imagine this, we get a convention call. Everybody's going to be talking about it. There's going to be national TV coverage.

I was going to say, like, the Americans are, you know, bright, interested. and they follow sports. I mean, there are people that know more about the details of, you know, sports contests and so on and so forth. When we focus our attention on something like this that is actually historic, that really, really matters, it's beautiful. You remember, kids are going to be taught the Constitution in schools. I mean, they aren't now, but they'll have to be. Is that constitutional? Right.

It's so funny because there was a time in America when kids in public schools and all schools were taught the Constitution. and they understood that in a sense you cannot really be an American unless you understand these things. That, of course, has evaporated in our lifetime. So this is, it's a great opportunity. It's a wonderful opportunity. I am most excited about the opportunity

of having the convention. And at the minimum, you fire a shot across the bow of the Congress and the president and said, you know what, okay, we didn't get anything done this time, but we did it. We can do it again.

And now you're going to have to be on guard. You're going to have to, you know, you either start, getting your act together, or we're going to get your act together for it. Well, look, this is classic checks and balances, right? Exactly. The idea that some of these founders understood that, hey, here's another thing. Here's another arrow in our quiver of checks and balances.

Let's put this in there, and hopefully we never need to use it, but suddenly, you know, the centuries passed, and I think we could use it. I would make the argument that if the founders came back to America and you could update them and they would look and they would, the one thing they would say is looking at the Constitution is, why haven't you, we gave you this to use so this wouldn't happen? Why haven't you used it yet? I think that would be one of their biggest questions. Well, a lot of these things are an issue of God's time. You and I understand, it's an issue of God's timing. There's no natural answer, but I just think that things have to get to a certain place. 30 trillion dollars? Where people,

listen, that is so sick. It is mind blowing. And most Americans, I would say, get that. Certainly those who listen to this program get that. We're going to go to a break. We're talking to Rick Santorum. Yes, Rick Santorum is the Eric Mataxis show. Please go to Eric Mataxis.com. Sign up for my newsletter. And we can send you a video. You can see what Rick and I are wearing right now. Go to Eric Mataxis.com. We'll be right back. Hey, folks, if you listen to this program, of course, you've heard me talk at infinitum about my pillow and my friend Mike Lindell. Well, Mike has just announced that you will receive one of his books. and the book is next level insane.

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Folks, I'm talking to Rick Santorum. Yes, the Rick Santorum. We are at the NRB in Nashville. at the hateful Gaylord Resort Waterpark. Rick, let's talk current events. It's my understanding that Trump revealed a lot of things. In other words, by coming in and being the kind of a character that he is, a lot of things that we're hiding comfortably have come out into the open. One is the so-called deep state, that there are these people that they're part of this bloated bureaucracy. They represent themselves.

They want to continue their own power. And they haven't represented the people they're supposed to represent. And we find ourselves now, for example, in this bizarre situation where by projecting unbelievable weakness, we've effectively invited all the bullies of the world. It's like, come on, you know, you can get some free land in the Ukraine and in Taiwan. Now's your time, because if Trump gets back in, it's the party's over. What do you think is going to happen with regard to the situation in the Ukraine?

Boy, I wish I knew the answer to that. I mean, I am incredibly encouraged by the bravery of the Ukrainian people. It's inspiring. It's embarrassed the West. They've embarrassed us. They've embarrassed Europe to the point we're there, at least in some respects. Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, so many of these countries have abandoned some of their woke policies, green policies, and have adopted some reasonable measures to provide energy for themselves.

That hasn't happened here yet in America with the Biden administration, but the Green Party in Germany is now less green than the Biden administration. Think about that first thing. Wow. Right? So there's hope for the world. Yeah. Now, the Biden administration, it strikes me as, in other words, if he were merely

unprecedentedly incompetent, he wouldn't be able to do the damage. In other words, it strikes me that there is, I see it as malevolence, but kind of an anti-American philosophy in his administration who's ever running things, that they're doing things that are just staggeringly damaging. And I don't think it's just, as I said, incompetence. they seem to have a different worldview, so dramatically different than most Americans, certainly than the Trump administration. Well, he's handed over his administration, whether it's the border or whether it's the economic policies,

and you can go on down the list of all the domestic things that he's done, in the Justice Department and crime policy, et cetera. He's handed it over to the squad. He's handed it over to the woke. Why? I gave an interview before at CNN. I gave an interview before the election. And they asked me, you know, to describe Joe Biden.

I said, Joe Biden likes deep, calm waters. I said, ever since he came into office, he rides his little boat down the middle channel in the deepest part of the river. And all he does is when the Democratic Party turns right, he steers right, when it turns left. He just wants to be in the safe space. And when the Democratic Party...

You know what? There's an English word for that. that. I think it's coward. Yeah, well, that would be a good word for that. But that's the, I don't know what, I don't know what the translation would be, but the English word is coward. Gotcha. Well, I can say is that's what Joe Biden's political career has been about. And so when he signed up to be the standard bearer of the new Democratic Party, he channeled right in the middle of the stream. And so he has turned it over to the squad. And you're right. I think it's malevolve it. I think these people do not love, they want to transform America. They hate everything America's stood for in the past, and they want to completely turn it into a socialist communist republic.

And Americans, quote, unquote, have elected these people. They did elect these people. It's shocking. Yeah, well. It's shocking. But, you know, the interesting thing is that Biden, you know, gave the, you know, from his basement in Delaware, kept telling people that's not who he was. That he was not. Yes. And by the way, the English word for that is lying.

Yes. Well, it's like, it's like Barack Obama getting up and saying, we're not, you know, we're not red America. or not white America, blue America were the United States. There was nothing further from the truth in his policies. He didn't try to unite anybody. That is also called lying. Yeah.

And so what we have with Biden, I'm going to differ with you a little bit on this on foreign policy. I served 12 years with Joe Biden, and there was not one time that Joe Biden and I ever agreed on the foreign policy thing. And I hate to say, there's not one time he was right. And in his, he is incompetent. I agree with that. He's deficient and all those things.

What he really is, is simple. weak. He believes that this, and I'm holding up a piece of paper, is peace. That if you can get something on a piece of paper, where people agree, that is the best guarantee of peace. And so he is willing, as you saw in... Chamberlain without the British accent. And the British accent is the only thing that Chamberlain had going for him. And the mustache was nice. But honestly, what you're saying in your typically sweet way is horrifying. In other words, here you have a man who is, you know, you say, well, he's weak. America needs someone who believes in the founder's vision to represent that vision in a strong,

courageous way, the way Reagan did. So the idea that we have come here is staggered. Well, the problem with our system of government, and I prefer our system over the British system of government, is in the British system of government, when you have a weak prime minister at a time, critical time in British history, you could take him out. Right. And you could put in a new prime minister. And that's what they did. You can't do that here in America. We're stuck with Joe Biden for three more years.

That's the scary part. We do have something called impeachment. We can impeach. How is that? You can do it. But there has to be, as you know, there has to be a hugely broad consensus in order to do that. And you'll need people of both political parties. And look, I hope things do not go badly in Ukraine.

I hope that Ukrainians bail out the West in Ukraine. But it won't be because of Joe Biden. It will be in spite of Joe Biden. But if it doesn't happen, then things really spiral out of control and Biden continues to be incompetent, you might be a point where the Democrats feel that it's, it's good to cut their losses. Here's the problem, Eric. Is Kamala Harris becomes president?

Well, you know what? That's not, yeah, that's like the poison pill. Who could we get? How about if Fidel Castro is vice president, then we'll never impeach Biden. Let's get Fidel Castro. Oh, he's dead. Who else can we get? Kamala Harris, fine.

It's a deal. We've made a deal. That's the beauty of politics. Isn't that sweet? That's the problem. Well, Rick Santorum, I'm glad you're here. and I don't mean just sitting next to me. I'm glad you're here in this nation,

fighting for good things. Thank you for being my guest. God bless you, my friend. Folks, it's the Eric Metaxis show. I'm here to remind you. And Albin, you are here with me to remind people that this year, okay, and this month, we have an opportunity to do something spectacular. And every time I say this, I put it as an opportunity

because usually we say, what can I do? I want to do something. I do? Well, we work with food for the poor. And every single year, we come to you and we let you know that there are children starving. While all this is going on in the world, all the suffering in the world, there are constants of suffering that don't change, except for the fact that folks like you give to food for the poor. Food for the poor is on the ground in places like Honduras. And they come to us once a year and we ask you to help us. And I'm asking you right now to go to metaxis talk.com and to give something. Now, if you give $88. Now, we all are supposed to give tides and offerings.

We're supposed to give back. We're blessed to be a blessing. We know that. The question is, where do I give? Well, if my opinion means anything to you, I would say you can give to an incredibly trustworthy organization called Food for the Poor. We vetted them, and that's why we work with them. And they are helping, there are children all across Honduras and other places that are literally starving. We've talked about a film on this program called Mr. Jones, hard film to watch, not for the kids, but it talks about starvation in the Ukraine. Most of us can't even imagine what starvation is, what malnutrition. We cannot even imagine what it is.

In that film, you see it happening. And it's in the Ukraine, right? Because of Russia. Interesting, right? but I want to tell you it's happening now on another level in places like Honduras. One of the workers for food for the poor, Linda, who has been to Honduras, I'm not sure. Actually, I do believe that she lives there. I want to play a clip from her.

Let's play that. When you see the hunger, when you see the need, you go out on the field. Even if they haven't eaten for one or two days, it makes us real, real sad. the more we do, the more we see the need. The more places we go, the more we find people starving. The more we see children are eating the leaves from the trees. Wow. I just can't get over this stuff.

When you hear this, you want to think this can't be happening today. It is happening today. The only difference between today and when things like this happened in the Ukraine because of Stalin is that we can actually do something about it today right now. You can go to metaxis talk.com and click on the banner. You can dial 844-8663 Hope, 844-863 Hope. Now, I just want to say, again, it doesn't matter what you give. In fact, Albin and I have decided that no matter what you give,

your name is put in a hat and we will pick out three grand prize winners. So this can be fun for you. I would get my family involved, my kids involved, and say, what can we do to help kids that are starving, not very far away from American shores? These kids are no different than our own kids. And we have an obligation. We ought to know we have an obligation to do what we can, when we can. And this is asking very little folks.

But when you think about it, a tank of gas is about $88 or whatever it is at this point in America. that number can feed a child for one year every single day for a year, 365 days a year. $88 of our money goes that far with food for the poor. So I want to ask you to give. And again, whatever you give. You can also decide to give monthly, which is sometimes a brilliant thing because you just give a little bit monthly. It adds up to $88 over a year or $175 for two kids. I want to encourage you, 844-863, Hope, 844-863, hope, or go to Metaxistalk.com, click on the Food for the Poor Banner.

This is a privilege. We are blessed to be a blessing. Please do what you can. Please, and thank you.