The Eric Metaxas Show - Rod Martin on Current Geopolitics, the Latest Trade Deals, DNI Revelations and Other Small Topics

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Rod Martin discusses the latest geopolitics, recent Trump admin trade deals, DNI revelations and other small topics. Find more at: rodmartin.org

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Roger Stone, let me say thank you for continuing to be Roger Stone. We've been talking about a lot of things, but I want to ask you, really, I have felt that God's hand is on Donald Trump, for God's purposes in history, that God saved his life dramatically to show everybody that God's hand is on him. But I always say for God's purposes in American history. It's not for Donald Trump, it's not for you, it's not for me. It's not even for America. It's for God's purposes in America, which is the leader of the world completely. I mean, there's just no doubt that we are the bellwether country. And President Trump, I have said, this is about God's purposes in history, meaning beyond America.

And he, I don't know if it was yesterday, hosted Prime Minister Kier Starrmer, at his own home. Donald Trump's well-appointed Scottish almost castle yesterday. I mean, he is the gift that keeps on giving. Seeing him in the UK acting as host, it was just another one of those head exploding moments, like when he toured the new digs, the expensive digs of the Federal Reserve, he has a talent for doing this kind of thing that is. almost unbelievable. And I guess I wonder, what do you see happening with the EU tariffs? He really is trying to change the world. That's not too much to say. Yeah, I completely agree. That was a classic Donald Trump performance yesterday. He said, I don't like the job the mayor of London's doing.

And Starmor says, oh, he's really a good friend of mine. Trump basically says, yeah, I don't care. I think he's doing a terrible job, a terrible job. That's vintage Donald Trump. He doesn't care what other people think. He's going to tell you what he thinks. He's not politically correct. And, of course, as we know, he's not handled or managed or scripted. I mean, what you see is what you get.

That's why they like to do. People love the fact that he's genuine, that he's authentic. He tells you what he really thinks. Watching Jay Powell, the guy looked at so the chairman of the chairman of the, the Federal Reserve. He looked incredibly. He didn't know whether to cry. He didn't know what to do. And Trump is like saying, well, your cost overruns here is a $2.5 billion renovation on the Federal Reserve headcourse at a time that the American people can't get a cut in interest rates. Now, it's important to know that the two criteria for a cut in interest rates are unemployment and

inflation, and today both of them are either lower than or at the same level as the last four times the Federal Reserve cut rates. So what reason could Jerome Powell possibly have for it not cutting rates other than the fact that he wants to retard the Trump economic boom? He knows that if people had a lower interest rate to pay their credit cards or to buy a house or to buy a car, that it would ignite, you know, the greatest boom in American economic history right now. They told us, oh, this tariff stuff he's going to do. Inflation's going to go through the roof. No, inflation's historically low. The dollar is solid. The dollar is strong. And the inflation rate remains low. So the time to cut rates is right now. And Jay Powell is playing politics.

with the American economy. It's outrageous, frankly. He should resign. He really should resign. Well, we know he should resign. Can Trump get rid of him? Can Trump fire him? I mean, I'm just...

I don't believe he has the legal authority to fire him. I think we have to wait him out, unfortunately. Perhaps he'll get the message and cut rates. But in the meantime, I don't think he has the authority to fire him. I wish he did. Well, I mean, he's making all of... the, Powell I'm talking about, Americans suffer, and he is not elected. When is his term up? I think he goes into April of next year. He's my understanding. That could be incorrect, but I think it's

early next year. It's unbelievable. Trump is really changing things around the world. I never really expected to see this level of influence, that you're seeing the whole world responding to him, as though he's the president of the world. Of course, he's not, but he is the leader of the free world. And that is significant. I think that, you know, America, such as she is, has a duty to the whole world. So by putting America first, you're really blessing the whole world. And that's, I think, what Trump is doing. And I think there's a clamor in a lot of these other names. for his kind of leadership? Look, I think he's showing the way.

I really do believe, I've said for some time, he is leading us into a golden age. It's a golden age of peace, prosperity, security, justice, and law and order. One of the manifestations of what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, because I have known him for 50 years, Eric, there is a new serenity about him. There's a near-shiridness.

There is a, but there's also a new sense of urgency. He knows that he only has four years to turn around this ocean liner that we call the United States. And he believes that every single minute counts, which is why he's so peripatetic. I mean, he is, the man is putting in hours that are unbelievable. he's having the time of his life. He's a happy warrior, but he has an agenda. They all said his agenda was a prescription for disaster. The stock market will crash. Uninflation will lure out of sight. We're going to have a depression. No, he's been completely right about everything. Cutting the biggest tax cut in American history was extended for January in the big beautiful bill.

88% of those people who currently get Social Security benefits will not pay taxes on them. That's it. That's a new development. And his demands that our trading partners pay a reasonable tariff and that we have a trade deal is good for both of us, not just good for them, has not sparked inflation the way Jerome Powell said it would. So we're on our way to the greatest period in America. in history. But I really believe that he believes, and I believe, that he has the armor of God, that he has the hand of God upon him. He was born for this moment, for this second. You see it

every day. You know, I look, I worked for him for a very long time. And pastors always used to complain to me, why doesn't he talk about his faith more? We know he's a man of faith. We know he believes, why doesn't he talk about his faith more? Well, now he does, talks about it openly. He knows why he was saved. He knows he was saved for some greater purpose, and he is fulfilling that purpose every single day. Well, knowing that you've been saved by God, I mean, I don't mean spiritually saved. I mean, that your life was saved by God in that very dramatic way, that blood is drawn. It's humbling. I think, and I think a man as great as Donald Trump needs humbling. I think the greater you are, the greater gifts you have, the more difficult it is to be humble. And I really

think God got his attention and said, listen, I made you. I invented you. I created you for my purposes. And it seems Donald Trump gets that. So as you said, there's a piece about him that is really noticeable. He understands that he is a vessel for God's purposes in history, which I just think is beautiful. And I do agree with you, Roger. I think we're on the verge of a golden age. And I think a big part of that is spiritual revival. I think we're going to see spiritual revival in the nation and around the world. It's hard for us even to know what it's going to look like because I think all of this is genuinely unprecedented. We simply don't know. But I think it has been the the prayers of the saints over the years that brought us to this point that gave us the presidency

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Welcome back. As I think I told you, my guest is Rod Martin. Rod Martin. Welcome back. You, I want to ask you. Let me ask you before we get into the amazing stuff that you've been writing on X. How do you do so much of what you do? Because I'm amazed at the variety of stories that you put out on X.

You frame them. It's very reader friendly. You kind of break down the news for people in a beautiful way. How did you get into doing that? Because I'm so impressed by it. and I want people to know about you and about Rodmartin.org, which is the website. But how did you get into this? I mean, I assume you have a large staff, but you're the guy running it.

Well, I do have a great staff. And, you know, Garumo Arragon is our chief strategy officer at Martin Capital, Rob Dotson, Christina Murphy, who's our executive vice president and deputy general counsel, Michael Clarkin, general counsel, all these different incredible people. who make the Martin Capital team sing. Most of the writing is me, but it's analysis that we'd have to do anyway. You know, we're very intent, not just on investing in technology, but understanding the world that technology applies to and will be affecting out for decades, and we want to shape

the human future in an appropriate freedom sense. centered God-honoring way. And you don't do that hit or miss. We have we have schlepped toward Gamora for a very, very long time. The conservative movement has had a vision of what it's against, but not necessarily always where it wants America to go. We have a very specific vision of that, and we want to make it happen. So anyway, the analysis is just adjunct to that. It's something. It's something we'd have to do anyway. We just wouldn't necessarily put it in written form. Well, I want to talk to you about Iran. You posted recently about Iran. And again, to frame this for people, Iran under the Shah, was not an Islamic theocracy, which it is now

controlled by Mullahs. It was a Western-leaning nation, a Western friendly nation. The Shah was authoritarian. He was not George Washington. But since the mullahs, starting with Ayatollah Khomeini, took over that nation in 1979, many of us have hoped that somehow that country could throw off the shackles of theocracy, almost literal shackles in the case of theocracy. And you in a post on X said that you think that's happening. Now, I have talked about this. I know that there are many people converting to the Christian faith in Iran. There's a ministry called Iran Alive Ministries.

I had the head of that Hormoz Shariat on here a number of times. There are things going on there that you don't read about in the news. And you posted a number of things to give us hope. So tell us about that. Well, as you know, just because we get a freer system doesn't necessarily mean it's good for Christianity. We're seeing a lot of deaths of Christians in Syria now, even though I have a lot of hope for where Syria is headed compared to where it was. It's been bad for Christians so far the last few months. Iraq was mostly bad for Christians. And so that's disturbing, that's concerning, that's a matter of prayer.

Iran, I think, has tremendous hope. There have been tremendous numbers of conversions there. The stories are just extraordinary. And Reza Pahlavi is just a really good guy. He's Western educated. His wife is Western educated. Excuse me. I think you need to clarify. We're talking about the son of the late Shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi. Yes. He is the crown prince. He was actually named the crown prince the year I was born in 1969, which is also the year, of course, that King Charles became Prince of Wales. So, you know, apparently a big year. We also walked on the moon. But Reza-Polavi would have been the Shah in the early 80s because his dad died in exile very quickly. He already had cancer before he was overthrown and all of a sudden it just metastasized and he's gone.

So this is a guy who, as a young man, might or might not have been a great leader for the Iranian people. He probably would have been in exactly the mold of his father, who was a really great leader for Iran, but certainly not what we would hope for. Today, I think there's a very real possibility that with the opposition united around Reza Palavi, there's a very real possibility of a constitutional monarchy. that looks a lot like Spain or Great Britain, perhaps, that results in a thoroughly free country. And they are adamant that it be a secular government. Not a secular country, obviously. People will be free to worship as they choose. But that's a huge opportunity for Christianity. And now, it has worked better in some places than others. Obviously, we're still about 1% Christian in Japan versus about half of South Korea.

You know, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But without freedom, you don't have an opportunity to preach the gospel. And so that's an exciting thing for us, but it's an even more exciting thing for Iran. Christianity would do a lot for Iran, but aside from that, freedom would do a lot for Iran. And Iran used to be our best ally in the Middle East. They could be again. Okay, this is big news. you you break it down in your ex post, you said that.

I mean, look, when we, the United States bombed those three nuclear sites, that followed Israel bombing them, taking out some of their military leaders. The idea is that they have recently been severely, we have. and that the hope, of course, is that into this weakened state could step some forces for the good. And you're saying that those folks have been meeting. You mentioned obviously Riza Pallavi, who's the crown prince, the son of the late Shah. But you say that there have been people meeting and planning, strategizing, taking that country back. Yes, the opposition is pretty well organized. It's thinner on the ground inside the country than anyone would like, of course. But, you know, the real problem there is fear. That's

always the issue in any totalitarian system, people being afraid they're going to get their head chopped off if they do anything against the regime. But as things stand, faith in the Iranian regime is really at an all-time low. These guys just promised and promised and promised for years, if not decades, they had the world's leading air defenses. Well, the Israelis took those out without losing a plane. You know, oh, we're going to take the battle to Israel. Well, you fired 300 ballistic missiles in a day, and they all got shot down. You know, that's really working. You know, oh, we're rebeats. We're rebuilding what amounts to an Iranian empire in the Middle East. Well, as Bala is rolled up, the Houthis are reasonably well contained, Hamas is on its last legs.

All of that is gone, and the Syrian regime is gone, and the new Syrian regime is, stands a good chance of being basically a Turkish colony, but by maneuvering with Trump and with MBS in Saudi Arabia, plus Israel, actually talking about joining the Abraham Accords, don't know if that'll happen, but they're talking about it. They have the potential to triangulate where Syria can actually get some breathing space, but the cost of that is to not threaten their neighbors. And so all of this just dramatically undermines the credibility of the Ayatollah at home. All of these things that the people were promised were showing the greatness of Iran.

are collapsed. And then you capstone that with some B-2 bombers hitting Isfahan and Natanz and Fordo, and the Iranian foreign minister admitting those sites are now destroyed. So, you know, if I'm an Iranian regime opponent, today is looking like the best opportunity to convince large numbers of people that the regime is brittle and fragile that we've had in all of the 46 years since the Shah fell. Ultimately, what would it take? Would it take leading members of the military to join this plot against the Mullahs? I think that's likely, and I think it is reasonably likely to happen. I wouldn't want to put odds on it, but right now, the Iranian military knows that it has been trashed by its enemies, that all of it. It's very much like Putin,

situation, Putin believed all these lies about his own military. And I think some of his generals did too. And they're going to take Kev in three days. And they're going to, they're going to, hang on. We're going to go to a break. We'll be right back with Rod Martin. Don't go away. Martin, easy to spell. Rod, O-R-O-D, Martin, M-A-R-T-I-N, Rod Martin.Martin. Rod Martin.org. Okay, Rod, we can talk about Tulsi Gabbard. That stuff keeps developing. By the the time this airs. I don't know what new news will come out. But I also want to talk about the recent trade deal that Donald Trump made with the EU. Now, I want to be clear, the biggest shock, when I hear that Donald Trump did another insanely amazing thing for America, for we the people,

What always stuns me is that anyone should have been able to do this. Biden should have been able to do this. If Kamala Harris were elected, she should have been able to do this. But we know they wouldn't dream of dreaming to do it. Donald Trump is such an extraordinary figure that I run out of words in describing him. The idea that he is doing this, that we have got a guy. with a gigantic ego, who feeds his ego by doing great things for America. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll take that deal all day long.

And what just happened in the EU is another case. Donald Trump goes in there, makes an insanely wonderful deal. And who benefits? We the people benefit. Well, we really do more than any trade deal that's ever been made. It's really quite remarkable. But to address your point, yes, nobody before. Trump could have done this or would have attempted this because most people, well, actually

all people are mostly consistent with their own presuppositions. And the presuppositions in the beltway on foreign policy have pretty much been, we're big and bad and we can run rough shot over the American people. But to the rest of the world, please don't hurt us, please don't hurt us. And, you know, obviously that's not true if there's a small country that they think they can push around. And Saddam Hussein's Iraq certainly qualifies for that. Afghanistan certainly qualifies for that. But Russia, oh my goodness, that's just the end of the world. Well, I'm here to tell you, Russia has an economy smaller than Texas. So that was always a stupid calculation. And we were talking just before the break. Putin's military has been in the entirety of his time in office, a Potemkin village.

Well, likewise, Europe. Europe has been free-loading on the United States for decades. We should have rebalanced this after the end of the Cold War. We did this deliberately after World War II because our allies were flattened and we didn't want them overrun. Okay, but in case anybody doesn't have the timeline, that's 10 billion years ago. I mean, the end of World War II is a billion years ago, folks. And we have been continuing what we did, what we had to do then. We've continued and continued through the decades, preposterously with the fall of the Soviet Union, we continued and continued. It's insane. Now, is this just, you know, American deep state, uniparty globalist types who think,

well, you know, we want to have power, so we want to be everywhere, and we're throwing our money around in Europe because, you know, It gives us leverage or why would we not do 20 years ago what Trump just did and make NATO pay their fair share? I mean, I just don't get that. Why would we not have done that? Well, there's an element of what you say, but there's also genuine fear. And I was just staggered in 2017 talking not just to Democrats in various positions or who had just come out of various positions. or who had just come out of various positions under Obama.

But upper mid-level management under Trump, who were basically all Bush people, and the degree to which they were just horrified, Donald Trump's going to destroy NATO. Donald Trump is going to create a huge trading block against us. The Europeans and everybody else are going to gang up on us. And you listen to him, thought it was just rhetoric and talking points, but after a while, you realized, no, they really

believed this. Now, here's why that was stupid. And it was stupid then, and it's stupid now. The truth is, on the NATO side, we were paying 70.5% of the cost of defending the alliance, and that's been true into now, actually, 70.5%. We have 31 allies. They're rich. They're not poor. They're There's no excuse for this, and they're on the front line. Okay, on trade, Germany charges us four times the tariff on autos. We charge them. Okay, when we're trying to get Germany unflattened and stood up so that it can stand up to the Warsaw Pact, that makes sense. Circa, 1948, ladies and gentlemen, I mean, it's unbelievable.

Anyway, so, right. And supposedly, they're all going to bail on us, and they're going to. going to gang up on us and we're going to be isolated wrong. We're 4% of global population. We're 26% of global economy and we're the biggest consumer market in the world. Germany's economy is 48% exports. China's is about 20, 25%, depending on how honest you are with the numbers. These are places that would go into a depression without the U.S. market. And there was some rumbling about, you know, Europe and China ganging up. And that went absolutely nowhere, partly because of the presuppositions of the communist Chinese system, and partly because there's simply not enough

capacity in Europe to buy all a China's stuff that wouldn't be coming here. Make no mistake, when Trump hit them with 145 percent tariff, that's an embargo. That doesn't mean we're going to collect tariffs on all that stuff. That means no one here is going to buy that stuff. And that is exactly what we're dealing with in Canada with their 280% tariff on on dairy goods or in India with their 100% tariff on Harley Davidson. Hang on, Rod. We'll be right back, folks. Don't go away. Folks, I'm talking to Rod Martin. Rod Martin.org. Okay, Rod, we've been talking, you know, about trading with the Europeans and NATO and all this stuff. But what is in this great deal that President Trump, God bless that man that he has just made. What is in that deal?

Well, it's really quite remarkable. And bear in mind, this is right on the heels last month of an agreed to 250% increase in NATO defense spending. So they're already paying this huge amount of new money that they needed to and they should have done, but now they are. And then we come in with this trade deal. Well, right off the top, 15% flat rate both directions. So they kind of cancel each other out. And that gives you a bargaining chip to come back and chip away at over time, which Trump will do. And, you know, that will be, that will be brilliant also. But 15% instead of them charging us four times what we're charging them on autos, for instance, access to their agricultural market.

Does this mean I can afford a BMW convertible? Is that what you're telling me? I think you can. And of course, this incentivizes them to build more plants in the United States, which is always the aim of what Trump is doing. He wants to bring manufacturing jobs back here. And he is. I meant to say Porsche. I meant to say Porsche. Also that. I only afford a Porsche convertible. But so, no, that is a big deal. Well, keep going. It gets better. It gets better because they still have an enormous trade surplus with us. And Trump, told them you have to buy this down. Well, what does that mean? Well, what it turned out to mean was $600 billion in new direct investment from the EU into U.S. manufacturing combined with $750 billion in energy purchases over the next three years alone. Now, what you have to understand is that Europeans have actually sent twice as much money to Moscow for energy, since the war began as they've sent to Kev in aid twice as much. They're subsidizing Putin's war.

And it's just obscene while they moralize at us about, you guys need to step up and spend more money on Ukraine. You guys are the ones we're actually fighting. You guys are paying. Now, why is this? Is this because Biden destroyed the pipeline? I mean, how did this, how did we get to a point where they're giving that kind of money to Russia. Well, it's more that Biden authorized the pipeline. Nord Stream 2 made Europe even more dependent than it already was on Russian gas supplies. And Trump had nixed it. First day in office, Biden reauthorizes it.

You know, so they just speak with fork in tongue. Why would Biden have done that? I mean, it seems like Biden or the people, uh, running Biden wanted to destroy America. I really don't understand how else to process this kind of stuff. Yeah, I think that's accurate. And that makes sense once you realize that they openly say they're socialists. Well, socialism inherently must oppose the American system. The American system is rooted in a form of nationalism, which is to say that, you know, a discrete group of people gets to rule itself not be ruled from a distant capital, whether that's London back before the revolution,

or Brussels, or Geneva, you know, through international organizations. The idea that we are patriotic, that we fly the flag, that we still rally to our military, those things are just anathema to the globalists. And, oh, wait, we also have a bigger military than everybody else in the world put together. So if you don't tear down America, if you don't demoralize America. The globalist project can never succeed. And we have to understand very clearly globalism, not globalization. It's good that I can buy stuff from other places. That's great. But globalism, the idea of globalism is just the latest incarnation of imperialism. The idea that an elite in a distant capital should be able to rule me without my consent. And that's what you just saw

with the WHO amendments that RFK and Trump took us out of. That's what you see across the board. That's what we're fighting. So yes, tearing down America is essential to the socialist project. But it is a lot of people just don't get that because it's too horrible to think about. But we've got to face it, folks, that people in the United States government have been the enemies of we the people, the enemies of the Constitution and the declaration and the founding vision of this nation. They have been the enemies of that from within. And by the grace of the Lord,

we are dealing with that now through Donald Trump's administration. It's a miracle. We don't deserve it, but God is having mercy on us. And it's absolutely extraordinary and wonderful. But we are in a war. Let's just pivot. We've got a minute and a half and then another short segment. But Tulsi Gabbard, by the time this airs, I don't know what new revelations have come out. But you have to be, as I am thrilled at her bravery in digging down and giving us the truth? I am, and we've published a lot about this at rodmartin.org, so I encourage everybody to check that out. Published another thing by my friend Fred Flights this morning. He was Chief of Staff of the National Security Council in Trump won and knows a lot about this, needless to say, some of which is still classified. But the truth of

the matter is the question on everybody's lips in conservative circles is, are there actually going to be any arrests? Are there actually going to be any consequences? And I have a piece up on Rod Martin.org called, yes, there will be arrests because this is coordinated. Tulsi isn't just, you know, the lone ranger here. This has all been plotted out in every possible detail for the four years Trump was in exile, and he put the team in place to go after this stuff. They're not fingering Obama, you know, accidentally. And they're certainly not blowing the lid off the fact that the intelligence community, we were told 17 intelligence agencies agree. No, 17 intelligence agencies expressly disagreed, and Barack Obama ordered one of them

to write an assessment that contradicted all of that for political. purposes. And those people are guilty. They're guilty of multiple crimes. And I believe you're going to see Cash Patel, who was the chief investigator for Devin Nunes when they did the memo, the House, the Nunes memo, the House Intelligence Committee report. These guys are going for it. And if they don't, honestly, the Republic is lost. If there aren't consequences for trying to overthrow the government from within, there's no hope for the future. There's no hope for the future. There you go, folks. We'll be right back talking to Rod Martin. Welcome back, folks, talking to Rod Martin. Rod, you know, most people, I think, they can't really process the level

of what we're going through, how historic it is, how unprecedented it is. This is not business as usual. This is not another scandal. What we're talking about right now is quite literally the biggest scandal in our history by far. I cannot think of anything that rises to the level of what we're talking about here, that people within our government trying to overthrow our government. Is it anything less than that? Well, and not only are you correct, but they really were trying to get rid of Trump. The whole aim of this was to bring about an impeachment in the first half of 2017. And make no mistake, the rhinos running our leadership in both House and Senate would have gone along with that impeachment given the right impetus. The Democrats just weren't quite able to

get there. But if we were looking at Argentina, if we were looking at Chad or Niger, if we were looking at Russia or China, and the intelligence apparatus of one of those countries took steps to actually remove the leader of the country. There's no one, no one who wouldn't call that a coup d'etat. There's no one who wouldn't call it that. That's what happened here. It was a slow motion coup. It could have been a very quick coup, actually,

and it would have used the forms of the democratic process, but not the substance, which is exactly what you see in the end of the Roman Republic. They continued the forms of the republic. but the empire was already established. All right, but the issue here is that in a free country, such as we have been by the grace of the Lord, you have a press, you have freedom of speech. Our media has been complicit sounds even too passive for what they have been. They have been at least complicit in the evil that we're talking about.

and that is why it has been sold as, you know, this is, this is legal. This is the right thing. Impeaching him. It has this appearance of legality and propriety, but we know that it isn't because they have been, they have failed to call it out. Well, and with a few noteworthy exceptions, these are not stupid people. They know what they're looking at. They just agree with it.

They just think that it was important that we do overthrow. a duly elected leader. And of course, we've talked about this before. This is actually part and parcel of the kind of stealth coup we got from FDR, where you create this giant deep state entirely populated with Democrats. And it doesn't matter that you elect a Republican as president once in a while because he's so hamstrung and they just keep doing what they believe in regardless of his directives. Nothing ever really changes. Well, here they got a president. in Donald Trump, who was actually meaningfully trying to change things, and that was the one thing that can never be allowed. So they tried to kill him, ultimately, literally. Well, that's the point.

And they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for these meddling kids, as they say at the end of every Scooby-Doo episode, they would have gotten away with it. They should have gotten away with it. But I really believe by the grace of God who acts in history, outside of time, acts in time, nonetheless, we were able to avert what ought to have happened. And we're now living in a new age. The fact that Donald Trump was miraculously saved from death in Butler, I think that's God's way of saying, I have a plan for this nation and for the world. so I'm hopeful. But we're in a war and we have to fight and pray. Rod Martin, always a great joy to read what you write and to have you on this program particularly.

Thanks for being on. Thank you. It's great to be here.