The Eric Metaxas Show - Roger Stone and Bishop Aubrey Shines

Episode Date: October 30, 2020

Roger Stone lays out what he believes is at stake in the upcoming election, including our very freedoms; and Bishop Aubrey Shines provides answers to "Eight Questions About Race."

Welcome to the Eric Muttaxas show. It's the show that answers the question. Is it possible to make a vowel sound out of a potato? Can the word potato be a verb? What about an actual potato? Can that be a verb? What about the word verb? Can the word verb be a verb?

Can it be a potato? Mama, I'm scared myself. And now you're host, Eric Muttaxas. Hey there, folks. Welcome to the show. We have an insane show today. Don't miss any of it. At the beginning of hour two, I am reading the article that I wrote for the Blasers.

about why we need to vote for President Trump. I'm reading it. We've got Roger Stone. We've got crazy stuff. Craziest of all, do you see behind me, Mike Lindell? Everybody thinks that's really Mike Lindell. And I was going to say,

No, no, no, he's behind me. People thought the bobblehead doll was Mike Lindell. This is if you're watching it on video. But to prove that these are not the real Mike Lindel, we thought, as our guest, we would bring on the real Mike Lindel. Mike, welcome to the program. Yay. Oh, ho!

Use the code, Eric. Mike, we got some serious business to talk about. You live in Minnesota. You work in Minnesota. You're going to a rally today. But the reason I wanted to have you on originally was we heard that you are giving away 1.5 million masks from your company. This is what you do because they're needed.

I said, let me at least ask you about that first. And then we can talk about the president. Yeah, I heard our story. here, the state of Minnesota needed. We had a need. They were running short. And what I did is I called them up. I said, you know, we, I'd like to donate masks. And these aren't just the ones that my bill, my great, my great employees have been making for the past six months. We also had N95s and disposables that I had bought. And we brought a semi-low down there. And with the commissioner, again, donated them all. And I was happy to hear because I did, when she said they're all

going to schools, hospitals, nursing homes. I mean, the list they had, just a laundry list of places that's going to help out. And, you know, my employees are just, we're just, one of the things, just having a platform for me to give, I just feel blessed to be able to help. This is why I wanted you to mention this on the program, because I tell my audience, you know, we don't do business with just anybody. You and my pillow are the number one sponsor on this program. and what you do, people need to know a little bit about your heart, your character, the company.

So I wanted you to say that. And obviously now you have my store.com, which is carrying my Donald, the Caveman Books. Donald's right behind me. You're just a fun guy, but you're doing such good things. One of those things is being politically involved. So tell us a little bit about you said that something happened today, like a few minutes ago, in Minnesota. Well, you know, I went all in ever since I met Donald Trump before he was president, and boy, he's done everything he said he was going to do.

And in my home state of Minnesota, as we all know, the terrible decisions that were made by our governor and mayor manifested into riots and stuff across the country and ruined our town of Minneapolis, our city. Well, here just today, here's the president that is coming. You know, he knows we're going to win Minnesota. So he's been coming here. I don't know how many times the vice president I've spoken. at all the rallies. We had five million people we have called or knocked down their doors.

Five million into this ground game. But guess what just happened? So he's coming to Minnesota here today and they limited the amount of people. They shut, basically shut down the rally. They almost completely shut down that one. And now they were going to have another one on Sunday and we had to move it to Iowa because they were threatened by our governor and our attorney general, who everybody knows is Keith Ellison. And we know. We know. where that goes. And Elon Omar took his spot in the Congress, but it's

just terrible what they're trying to do to suppress and depress and stop that, you know, all of a sudden Minnesota doesn't play. Biden's coming here tomorrow to do what? To have his three people in a room, you know? I mean, it's just, it's very upsetting that they're doing this. And I'm going to throw in another thing.

Facebook, old suck a buck from Facebook, stopped my pillow ads for the until after the election. These are my ads for my pillows and stuff. They stopped them because they deep political because I'm so, so, you know, associated with the president and this great president.

Isn't that something? Look, listen, listen, people, it's why I wanted to have you on here. People need to know this. People need to be angry. If you're in Minnesota and you can't go to a Trump rally, well, now you know why. This is ugly stuff.

And of course, the Democrats now project everything they're doing on the Republicans. So if they are trying to suppress the vote, if they're trying to steal votes, they accuse the Republicans of it first. I hate to say it, but, you know, those are actually fascist tactics.

It's very nasty stuff. People need to be, need to be aware of it. Well, I'll tell you, we are going to win Minnesota, and everyone in Minnesota, we know it on the ground. Even the inner city,

my friends, you know, I come from addiction. I spent a lot of time down in Minneapolis where those streets were all ruined and all those businesses were ruined. My friends that rebuilt their lives, they don't have businesses anymore. So in Minnesota, we got a couple advantages, Eric. All our suburban women that they say they're worried about that vote. Well, here, they know if they vote for Donald Trump, they're voting for safety and security,

and he's got the police back, you know, the cop then. And another thing we have that other states don't have, we have Elon Omar, where when she came in, everyone's going, well, she's like a Trojan horse for what she wants. No, she's not. She tells it like it is. She hates Israel and she hates the United States and she hates Minnesota. So we've got, we've got all these advantages here. If we don't win Minnesota by a landslide and then what do they do? I want to say one more thing. What they did, Minnesota, they had us almost even in the polls. Then we had the Great Republican Convention and a poll came out down by nine. And I'm going, if that's not a Depression poll, we found out they pulled 39 Democrats,

That's 19 Republicans and 56 independents. The president called me up, and we talked about that. I go, these are depression polls. We're going to sweet Minnesota, sir. Look, two things. First of all, because Facebook and Zuckerberg or suck a buck, whatever you call them, because they're suppressing your ads, I want to say to my audience, if you would be particularly intentional about going to mypillow.com,

If you're going to go there, go there during this time. And of course, use the code. Eric, I also want to say, Mike, you know and I know this is a spiritual battle. And we are calling on people to fast and pray for this election. A friend of mine put up a website, Strengthen the Nation.com. Strengthen the Nation.com. And we're going to be fasting November 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and praying. And I believe that the power of prayer is going to make this.

difference in this election. I genuinely believe that is the case. God has his hand on this president for God's purposes. And you know that, and a lot of people know that. Absolutely. I'm heading to D.C. on actually Sunday night to have three days of prayer before this election. And we have a huge group doing that. And we've been fasting. I have for a couple months now. And for me, my fast of sugar is really hard, Erica. Yeah. I don't need sugar. That's good. That's good that you're fasting from sugar right but i'll tell you the power of prayer just like in 2016 this is the most important election in history this is biblical this is this is spiritual warfare that's been going on this country these are the two paths that you know you have a and b and we've got to just pray that god gives us

grace again and gives us more time because i believe we're in the biggest revival in the history of the world we're all part of this these are the times of you know it'll go down in history is, you know, this is the time where we is going to win and God's going to give us grace. And then we're going to get more people to the Lord and we're going to have more time to get this country back to God. They took a whole generation out of the schools of God and the colleges of the brainwashing going on with socialism. You know, oh, yeah, socialism. Listen, you're right on top of this. And again, it's why I love you, Mike.

And I'm glad you're advocating for voting in a certain way. and you're also advocating for prayer and fasting. I'll say it again. My friend's website is Strengthen the Nation.com. I'm going to be participating in this. I do believe that it is folks like you and me and our friends praying, beseeching God and have mercy on this nation that's going to make the difference. And again, folks, please go to mypillow.com.

Use the code. Eric, we've got to stick together. Mike, you just make me happy. just seeing you. I'm just thrilled that you're there. Whatever happens today, God bless you. I think people are waking up. I think we're going to see some historic things, but we really have to pray. So thank you for mentioning that. Folks, coming up, we've got Bishop Arby Shines, Roger Stone, a lot of crazy stuff. God bless you. Mike Lindell. Thank you. God bless you.

bending low at the people's feet on the windy corner of the dirty street. Will I ask him while he shine my shoes? Oh, I stand the line to you have right now. Bishop Arby Shines. He's the founder of conservative clergy of color, and he's also the author of a book we've been talking about on this program. It's called Eight Questions About Race. The website is spelled out, E-I-G-H-T, Eight Questions About Race.com.

Bishop, R. B. Shines, welcome the program. Thanks for having me, Eric. Love being with you guys. Well, look, I want to ask you two questions, first of all. Like, what's your story quickly? Because I want to know how do you get to found conservative clergy of color, and how do you get to write this book? What is your story?

Where did you come from? Well, in a nutshell, suburbs of Chicago, strong business-oriented home did really the initial work of ministry in the Cook County Jail systems, as well as on the streets of Chicago there, ordained by the largest Reformation of Pentecostals, actually in the nation. So the history is phenomenal.

Now, the collaboration, however, of getting some guys together to put together this coalition that I found it really came out of a body of work that we all independently have been doing for a period of time. And then back in 2015-16, when I was traveling with our, current president, it really, really kind of took off. And I'll say this as the crescendo. When Hillary Clinton wrote her book as to what happened, why she didn't get elected,

I was the only clergy in the United States of America she put in there by name as why she did not get elected to the office. Now, that is hilarious. Being the only person mentioned in that Hillary Clinton book, that rises to the level. In Milton's Paradise Lost, he made. mentions Galileo, who was living at the time. I think this rises to that level. That is amazing. It means you were effective. And, you know, as a man of color, as you describe yourself, conservative clergy of color, you have seen working in the Cook County jails, you've seen the reality of the problems we have in this nation with regard to race, with regard to crime, whatever you want to call it. And you love God, and you're speaking from that place. So I guess I want to get,

you to answer some of these questions that people have about race. What do you say to people who say there's systemic racism in America? There's nothing we can do about it. White people are guilty. Because of the color of their skin, it's inescapable. Well, I say a couple things. One, I have a black dad and a Jewish mom. And so the race dynamic paradigm I just never really bought into it. I wrote a piece that the Washington Times picked up an op that I did on systemic racism. And I said, yeah, sure, there's systemic racism and identified it.

It's in the Democratic Party. It's the same party that fought against the 14th, 15, 16th Amendment. It's the party that gave us KKK. It's the party that gave us Jim Crow laws. by the way. Now, Bishop, most people have no clue about this. You know that. Most people never hear what you're saying.

Yeah, that's why we're having success in saying it, because we are bringing an alternative news source to black and brown people. They have not heard it. They don't know who Margaret Singer is. They didn't know that she looked at blacks and browns and Jews, by the way, as we said needed to be exterminated. We present that information. They say, well, what does that have to do with us?

then I share with them, well, actually, she's the founder, Planned Parenthood. And so every time some white liberal guy or girl not only supports them, but receives the accolades of her foundation, as did Hillary Clinton, as did Barack Obama, the black and brown people I talk to, they're amazed. They say, wait a minute, you're talking about genociding of a black people and a brown people, and these individuals have received a war. We just simply, Eric, we produce the facts. I'm not into my opinion.

Here's the history. We give the history. And this is why I took time to like the book as well as collaborate with these other guys to say, hey, look, we are very, very strong and dependent of each other. Let's unite. Let's bring this thing together. And we'll begin to make an impact. And my friend, we are seeing just that.

Because, again, we're bringing information that the mainstream media won't tell individuals out here. Again, it's different when I'm on Fox News. news. It's different when I'm on newsmax or O-A-N. But do you really think Don Lemon? Do you really think, come on those guys are going to have me on? People like me, we are barred from going on those shows because we don't fit their narrative. We won't be able to, you know, in other words, endorse who they think we should, as Joe Biden said we should, because after all, we're people of color. It's ridiculous. We fight against it. Well, well, Bishop, this is.

is why I want to have you on because I have myself personally been knocked sideways when I have learned recently some of the stuff that you're talking about. The idea that the Democratic Party was the party of racism, Jim Crow, on and on and on, you never, never hear that. Tell us about the book, feed questions about race. This is what I call arsenal. Every person, in the United States of American needs. By the way, I'm not taking a dime for this. This is just simply to say, help us get this information out.

What I find, Eric, most men and women in this country don't know how to argue this. They're shame. They feel like the moment that they open their mouths regarding a subject matter of this magnitude, you're considered racist. What I simply do is say, no, you're not. Be courageous.

Here are the questions. Let me present facts as it relates to these issues here. And guess what happened? You then will be armed as an American citizen to be able to address these systemic issues as I have very simply laid it out in the book. This is why we do the work that we do because most Americans, they're not hearing this information. We want them to hear this information. This is why, and no flattery here, this is why shows like yours are so incredibly important

because you'll allow an alternative voice to be heard other than the, a fixed narrative that unfortunately, everyone in America hears all the time. And the most important thing is what we're saying here happens to be true. In other words, it's not like this is a point of view. You're saying things, and I've had other folks on this program saying things that are flat out true, and you never hear it in the mainstream media. And I'll be honest, Bishop, that is a scandal. It is a scandal. It's called lying. It's called hiding the truth. And listen, you know what? If it helped black Americans, I wouldn't be so angry about it. But I know that it hurts black communities and that if they don't wake up to what

the Democratic Party has done to them, they will never get out of this situation. Eric, can I just add something to it? It doesn't just hurt blacks. It really doesn't. It hurts whites who assume that they need to some kind of way, count out to black people because they become this messianic metaphor in their lives, that they're there to rescue these poor black and brown people. How about let's just deal with facts? How about America just deal with realities? And you'll find out that a lot of what's going on really doesn't need to go on.

Listen, here's the reality. When a black father and mom waits to have kids, before they're married, as does a white man, woman, and they go to college. There's zero difference in their employment. There's zero difference in their economic forecast as in relates to their success stories. But what we see in the Black Caucus,

what we see among white liberals, is this narrative that these poor black and brown people they need to be rescued. Well, I wasn't raised in a home like that. I was raised in a home prior to the deceased of my dad back in the late 70s, I was raising a very successful business-oriented home when my father taught conservative values, conservative principles, and you know what? It works. And by the way, a man that was born in 1920, you better believe he experienced real systemic racism. He never

allowed a racial epithet ever to come across his mouth. He made us believe that there was a God that with hard work, you could do whatever you want. And he was. is 100% correct. So I want to hear the garbage in the mainstream media about why whites need to help blacks because they are these poor victims. Don't give me that. Maybe 50, 60 years ago when they had a different conversation. But this is 2020, my friend. And if white and black, if we do not fight for this nation, we're going to lose it together. I'd rather die fighting than lose my nation. And this is why I think people are going to be shocked at the percentage of black Americans that vote for Trump.

I think it's going to be unprecedented. Whether he wins or loses, I think people are waking up in a way they never, ever have woken up before. So that's why I'm excited about you and books like this. I want to tell people again, you've got to go to eight questions about race.com.

It's a short book. I don't know what you guys are charging. It's not expensive. It's eight. Go ahead. Yeah, it's a short book. It's very inexpensive. By the way,

Just two days ago, we are number two on Amazon, but I'd love to see us go over into the number one slot. Did you say you were number two on Amazon? Do you have any idea? I'm a writer. It's hard for me not to be angry. Talking to somebody who's number two on it. Are you kidding me? That's insane.

Listen, we're out of time. I want to tell you, that is amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, I think that says it all. Go to eight questions about race.com spelled out. Eight questions about race.com. Bishop Harvey Schein, thank you and God bless you. Yeah, thanks again. Thank you.

Hey, old woman, please make up your mind. You've got to come into my world and leave your world behind. Come on now. Na, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You've got to come down from that clob girl and leave your world. Investors, seeking steady cash flow, ready to diversify. NRIA has grown to be one of the nation's leading. specialists and offers 10% annualized monthly payouts with bonuses targeted at 18 to 21%.

That's right. You could receive steady 10% return monthly payments with bonuses. As their slogan says, they specialize in realty investing done right. You can even use your 401k or IRA to invest. NRA's 15-year track record and 1.2 billion in new construction development backs you. Learn how you can invest in this hard asset real estate cash flow fund today and receive 10% annualized monthly payouts with bonuses. This is something savvy investors should research and consider. Call now 800, 700, 500,000-5483, or visit nria.net. An offer to buy or sell any security is only made by our private placement memorandum. Read it first. See us at nria.net. Patriots, I want to make sure you're prepared to vote on November 3rd. The radical Democrats are doing

everything in their power to stop Republicans from winning. And we want to make sure patriots like you are heard. This is the election of our lifetime. Make sure your vote is counted. Text Metaxis, M-E-T-A-X-A-S to 880-2 to find your polling location. Folks, I got some embarrassing news to share with you, but you know what? This is just the kind of a show where I don't care. I'm willing to lay my heart, you know, on the line.

Here's the issue. Mike Lindell with my pillow. You may notice that I have a bobble hell of him near me. He's here to remind all of us that when you go to mypillow.com, you get whopping discounts if you use the code Eric. Okay. Now, there are a lot of people who haven't done that, and we have your names here. And Chris Heim's Ann Albin pointed out to me that. that there's like three pages of you whose first name is Eric.

You, you're so, I mean, that's humiliating for me that even though your name is Eric, you're still not willing to use the code Eric. I mean, if you don't want to use it because it's my name, use it because it's your name. But the point is that I see who you are, and I just feel humiliated by this. Please go to go to mypillar.com. It's okay, Mike. It's going to be okay. Go to mypillar.com.

Use the code Eric. you're going to get whopping savings and really high quality products. Did I, did I mention that? Thank you. Hey there, folks. It's the Eric Metaxas show. As you can see behind me, a number of ghoulish cardboard cutouts. I don't have time to talk to them. Fortunately, I have an actual human guest. You may know him. Roger Stone, welcome to the program. Great to be here. Roger, I can't think of anybody who's been involved deeply in politics longer than you have. And I'm not sure exactly what day of the week this will air, so I won't ask you about your perception of where we're going with the election.

But I guess I want to ask you, what is at stake in this election? Because so many people don't seem to understand what's at stake. They think it's just another election. Sure. Well, partially, of course, that is our fault because every two or four years, we, habitually say this is the most important election of our lifetime. Unfortunately, this year it is absolutely true. I honestly believe that this is an election between good and evil,

between light and dark, between the godly and the godless. We're either going to continue to be a constitutional republic and have all of our freedoms intact, our freedom of speech, our freedom of worship, or we're going to move into some kind of authoritarian, one-world government where religious freedom is not observed. I think it is that serious. The mistake that I think a lot of Americans make is they think this is Republicans versus Democrats, and it's not. They also think it's liberals versus conservatives, and it's really not that either. This is about a ruling power elite who have dominated both parties and our country for the last roughly 30 to 35 years

and an outsider who has the courage and the audacity to champion a whole series of beliefs that the elites think are quaint and outdated, but which are at the core of our being, Donald Trump's rise was so completely improbable that at first the elites laughed at him. Then they tried to co-opt him. And now, of course, they're trying to, they tried three times to remove him. Now they're trying to beat him in an election. So the stakes are extraordinarily high. This is not just another election.

Well, I think, you know, if we go back to McGovern and Nixon, something that you'd be familiar with, obviously. We're talking about something very similar. The difference is the stakes weren't that high. In other words, if you look at McGovernites and you look at the revolution of 68 and what was happening in the culture, you really had similar kind of representatives

in Nixon and McGovern, but the difference is that we've now had 50 years of the long march through the institutions so that we are at a tipping point. In other words, if McGovern had been elected, there would have been an ability to get back. But it seems to me now, if we elect a Harris-Biden ticket, we will go over the cliff into a world

where everything is about the color of your skin, how woke you are, really a nightmare, a socialist nightmare. So I guess the only thing I can think of is the Chinese cultural revolution, something where it's something out of the pit of history. hell. You're going to allow, you're going to empower people who do not have the most basic grasp of what is right or wrong about America. And they're going to try to bring about a utopia, you know, on the backs of guilty white males or something. I don't mean to be

overstating the case. I think, unfortunately, that is what's at stake. You know, George McGovern may have been an extreme liberal, but he was also a veteran, and he was a patriotic American. He believed in a fundamental American system. Nixon himself was an outsider, resented by the establishment. He forced the establishment to take him. They shed him once. He came back.

A lot has changed since those days. you can't even get a Democrat today to denounce Islamic radicalism. You can't get a Democrat to stand up for the right to life. You can't get a Democrat to defend Israel. No, the Democratic Party of Jack Kennedy and Harry Truman is long gone. There's really no room for moderates in that party. That's why there aren't any. Even Joe Biden is forced to support their crazy,

New Deal and every other crackpot scheme that the socialist wing of the party comes up with. Here he is basically saying, oh, Bernie's a great guy and I've adopted his platform. Well, that's nothing to be proud of. No, the stakes are as high as you say they are. And it is also the first time that I've seen the media play the role that they are playing in this election. In prior elections, the media was biased. The media was not fair, but this broad censorship, this just deciding not to cover a major, major development regarding one of the two candidates,

as if it never happened, or to tie up the decision as to whether to cover development based on the source of information, rather than the content of the information is an absurdity. But that's where we are today. Three of the networks and the major newspapers in the country refuse to report the simple facts regarding Hunter Biden and what is now documented as international corruption. I want to pause there. We're going to be right back, folks. We're talking to Roger Stone about what is.

happening in the country right now. Don't go away. 49 and went to Detroit working on assembly line. The first year they had me putting wheels on Cadillac. Folks, welcome back to here for Texas show. I'm talking to Roger Stone. Roger, I had the privilege finally a week ago

in Miami of meeting you in person, and I got to hear you tell in person the horror story of what you were subjected to. We don't need to get into that right now. But when I heard you tell that story, I thought to myself, America has ceased to be America. Listening to what you went through, it reminded me of what people must have felt in the South, knowing that lynchings are going on, that there

are people allowing this. It's against everything everyone knows is right. It's political. The government is stepping back, allowing it to happen. Obviously, what happened to you. you doesn't quite rise to the level of a lynching, but it's the same principle. It's so an American. It's so evil. I would think that in 2020, we would have been past this kind of thing. Thank God we're past lynchings, but we're not past punishing political enemies in the way that you were punished by actors in the deep state. That is also what is at stake in this election. Is it not? Absolutely, Eric. The point, of course, is that our judicial system is broken, that the idea that a U.S. citizen is entitled to a fair trial by a

jury of their peers has been turned on its head. We have a two-tier justice system in which some elites break the law, whether they be multi-million dollar financial crimes or being engaged in child sex trafficking and worse, but they are never prosecuted or even questioned, whereas the government invents crimes against those they perceive to be enemies. I can sum this up without taking too long. I was the subject of a political prosecution. I was doomed. I went into a rigged trial.

It was a Soviet-style show trial. I reached the depths of despair. I turned my life over to Jesus Christ. I invited him into my life. I confessed my sins, and I begged him to, deliver me from my persecutors, and he did. Boom, that's it. And it was, other than marrying my wife, it's up there with among the greatest decisions I've ever made. Now, elites make fun of me. You know, you can find a piece in New York Magazine, Washington Monthly. How quaint,

how ridiculous. Jesus Christ, what a, what a joke. No, you're the jokers, as they will see. So it's extraordinary to believe that what can happen to you, happen to me, can happen to anybody out there. We're in the blink of an eye. You lose your freedom to travel. You lose your freedom to speak. You lose your ability to make a living. You lose all of your savings in any Social Security, small-less, small-less, that you may have built up. You can't go out in public for fear of being lynched, which is still a problem today.

I have to be very careful where I go out in public because a lot of people who disagree with me politically are violent, which I don't understand. If I saw someone in a restaurant that I disagree with publicly, I wouldn't start yelling and throwing things at them, but then I'm not a liberal. So that is exactly what's his state. The president needs to clean house top to bottom. Our intelligence agencies are rotten to the core. Our national security apparatus is rotten to the core. our judicial system is rotten to the core. Our Department of Justice is rotten to the core.

And what happens, Eric, is there's a permanent bureaucracy that just stays in place. Presidents come and go. Attorney General's come and go. Cabinet members come and go. FBI directors come and go. But the permanent class of bureaucrats, the permanent class of globalists, stay in place and they resent the idea that they resent the idea that they, They should not continue to run every aspect of our lives.

Well, that's, of course, the issue. That's what's at stake in this election. And I hope and genuinely pray that American voters will wake up, will make sure they go to the polls, and will demand by voting that we move away from where we are right now. in some ways the worst thing about all you've described to me is that it undermines the average American's faith in the system. In other words, if you believe that we the people are really the government, that we the people have a voice, you are encouraged to act. But if you believe

it's all corrupt, there's nothing I can do. Once that happens, it's game over for American style self-government. And you drift inevitably into a kind of, you know, I think of Greece, I think of places where people are just so cynical that it's almost impossible for them to do anything about it. We've just got a couple of minutes left, Roger. Do you think this president will win re-election? Well, I certainly think he can win re-election, but he has a number of obstacles in the short term. The first and foremost is the complete bias of the corporately owned media, who simply, won't cover the president fairly and will not cover any of the foibles and scandals regarding

Joe Biden. You have the censorship of conservatives, Republicans, Christians, libertarians, anyone who's not illiberal on social media, taking away the president's amplifier, taking away his megaphone, as it were. And then, of course, you have the potential for vast voter fraud. I've been in American politics for 40 years. When MSNBC tells you voter fraud does not exist, they don't know what they're talking about. You can find a story virtually every day about absentee ballots being found where they're not supposed to be, about ballots being sent to the wrong people. No, voter fraud is very real. What do you think is going to happen with that? Because I don't know what can be done or what the president has tried to do. But that's, again, it undermines people's faith in the system. It makes people say, why bother voting? That to me is the horror. Well, I don't like to answer hypothetical questions, generally speaking, but I could see a possibility of having a disputed result in which both sides claim based on a different count that they won. But I would pray that that gets settled not in the streets, but in the courts. We're Americans. We don't settle things with violence. We have a court system for that. I used to think, think that court system was fair. I no longer think that. But it's still preferable to scuffling in

the streets. And those who keep saying Trump's supporters are going to be harassing and bullying and intimidating voters on election date, the polling places, that is an absurdity. That is misdirection. No, there's no question about that if anybody's going to be harassing, it's going to be the side. I'm sorry to say. I'm also sorry to say we're out of time. but thank you, Roger Stone. Always great to see you and have you on this program. Great to be here. Many thanks.

God bless you. And you sends him to the finest school in time. Hey, how about that, Roger Stone? Folks, I got three things to mention. Number one, don't forget fasting and praying. Go to strengthen the nation.com. Join us. Very important.

I hope you didn't miss Mike Lindell earlier. Roger Stone coming up. Conrad Black. Oh, my gosh. But in the next segment, now or two, I'm going to read my article from the blaze.com on why I think we should vote for Trump. So I hope you're ready for that. Maybe you can share that video. And I'm happy because I used to work at the Blaze. I know. These are good folks, Glenn Beck. Okay, ready?

ADF, it's our last opportunity. Now, we keep saying this is important. It's important, but now this. This is it. For some reason, because of the season we're in, we're actually way behind. So I want to reiterate again, if there's somebody out there with $10,000 burning a hole in their pocket and there are tons of you, I know, I'd like to offer an evening together dinner anywhere. You know, we can, I'm going to be coming all over the country in February and March. When my new book comes out, it's called Fish Out of Water, a Search for the Meaning of Life. My story. I'm going to be traveling everywhere. And we will work it out so that anybody who's been generous enough to give $10,000 to religious liberty, which is to ADF, the Alliance Defending Freedom, I will have dinner with you. And anybody you feel like bringing, it could be 20 people, it could be just the two of us, whatever you want. But I just throw that out there because I know there are people that, you know, to give tax deductible money to a not just great cause, but at this point, a very, very important cause in our nation. nation religious. And don't, and don't forget that for just $500, you can get my beard hair, okay, and the complete hamster homes book series. So beard hair, if you request it.

You even imagine there are people who have not ponied up 500 bucks for the beard hair. Like, that's just crazy talk. Folks, genuine beard hair. It used to be on his face. It is now not in his face. If you don't give 500 bucks, he's going to have to glue it back on his face. And all the shaving will have been insane. I think I glued it back on to Chris's face. Hey, Chris, do you have my beard? Yeah, I'm growing a little beard here. We'll probably shave soon. But yeah, as of now, I think maybe you, you know. Can people pay it forward? Like, if they give $500, Chris will shave his beard on the air, and we will mention their name. Let's throw that out there. If you're interested, you're less interested in in owning actual historic hair from the face of a producer of this show.

Perhaps you're more interested in watching someone shave his beard, excuse me, his or her beard. And in that case, Chris will shave that beard and will scream your name on the air. And it'll only be 500 bucks this time because that's just how we roll. I feel like this is going to be a slippery slope. you know, we start with a beard hair, and then in future campaigns, I mean, where are we going to go from here? I mean, I see maybe belly dancing on the show or who knows. We're going to be swallowing goldfish for money. Or eyebrow hair.

Yeah, we'll shave our eyebrows. Okay, so I want to remind people, you have to go to our website metaxis talk.com. This is really the last opportunity, folks. We're kind of desperate. We need your help. Whatever you can do. Here's a phone number. Some people prefer to call.

Hall. 855-5-47-53-33. That's 855-5-47-53-33-33. That's 855-5-4-7-53-33. That's 855-5-4-7-5-4-7-53. Operators are standing by now. Hey, listen, we are grateful to all of you who listen to this program. We are trying to do some important things. There's an important election coming up again go to strengthen the nation.com. It tells you how to fast. I always have all these questions. Strengthen the nation.com. Do not forget metaxis talk.com. ADF. We need your help. God bless you.