The Eric Metaxas Show - Roger Stone (Encore continued)

Episode Date: January 5, 2023

Roger Stone continues his conversation about a number of key issues, including weightlifting, how "clothes make the man" -- and who he thinks orchestrated the JFK assassination. (Encore Presentation)

Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m.investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. Taxis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Folks, welcome to hour two. I call it hour two because it follows hour one, and I'm a traditionalist. Talking to Roger Stone, Roger, we're talking about many things. We're talking about America. Let's talk for a minute about the man who seems to have occasioned the full-blown madness on the part of the left in this country. I think, you know, when you talk about big tech stifling free speech, killing free speech, being the enemies of free speech, we have to be honest and say that, look, this was all happening to a lesser extent with when we had three.

networks. We know that the three networks and the New York Times leaned dramatically left. But in a way, it was kind of like we played this game. That was just the reality in which we found ourselves. Trump, the advent of Trump, kind of blew it all up so that the New York Times went from being merely leftist to being insane leftist Marxists and overblown, even in that. Same thing happened all over the mainstream media. So we've really seen a sifting and a dramatic revelation of where we actually stand, that all the people, you mentioned a few, you know, well, we mentioned those who were Republicans or who are Republicans, and we thought, well, they're sort of on our side. Something about Trump was clarifying, and it forced people to choose and to say, you know what,

Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney and John McCain and all these people that we thought were on our team. At the end of the day, they are career politicians who are more interested in their own power than in the founder's vision than in fighting against the horrors of Marxism in China and around the world. Something about Trump made that happen, and I don't think it was Trump who did it consciously. he was an instrument of God, frankly, in history. Well, he lifted the curtain on the whole thing. Prior to Trump, although we had two parties, that was all Kabuki Theater. We really had one party. It was the establishment party.

Neocons, those who go out and look for war for profit and gain, dominated both parties. There was a globalist worldview. We could pretend at election time we were different, but at the end of the day, our policies were exactly the same. witness the fact that all these Republicans in the House and the Senate are perfectly willing to ship billions, $100 billion to Ukraine to fight over their borders, but they aren't willing to spend a couple million to seal our border from which we have an immigration, crime, and drug epidemic. That's the Uniparty doing that. Trump is your real first outsider president. He's the only president who's not a part of the club.

The only thing that comes close to him is Reagan. And everything was cut and dried for 2016. It was going to be Jeb Bush versus Hillary Clinton. It didn't matter who won boys because we all get rich. They stole together in their Haitian charity for the earthquake. What happened to that $65 million? Boom, it was gone. Nobody knows where it went, except for the Bushes and the Clintons.

They know where it went. So Trump exposes this whole insider establishment ruling elite. And that's why they are so hysterical. about him in particular. And then he just doesn't play the game their way. In other words, he has this really maddening habit of saying exactly what he thinks, and that's not how they think it's supposed to be.

It's like, here, sir, here are your talking points. No, it doesn't work that way with him. So he's uncontrollable. You can't buy him, you can't boss him, you can't bully him, and that makes them wild. Now, unfortunately, because I've been a friend of his for 44 years, I get a lot of the same invective.

In other words, people who used to be my friends, people used to be willing to have a cocktail with me, people who I used to be able to have banter with, they won't even speak to me anymore. Alan Flusser, the guy who made this suit, you can see him in a video saying I should go to prison. He wasn't saying that when I spent, I don't know, $300,000 at his salon buying clothing

back in the day when I could afford that. Back when Fluster was good, because we know he's gone downhill. Well, listen, we are, all living through this in America. And I think that there's something, there's more than something beautiful about it that, you know, nobody wants to to live through trying times, but, you know, I guess quoting pain, these are the times that try men's souls. Trials can be, can be a good thing. They can clarify things. They can show us what was happening behind the scenes. You talked about Trump, you know, sort of pulling away the curtain?

I guess the real question here is, it's a simple one. Are we in the end times? Are we just before the end times? Are we in the middle of the end times? Are we near the end of the end times? I think, and I've talked a lot of people about this, I think, it's just an opinion. We're in the time of sorrows, which precedes the end times. But all the turmoil that the Bible describes is going on around us all this time.

And there will be a rise of a false prophet. it. And I'm trying to figure out who that is. We're all trying to figure out who that is. Kissinger. Actually... Too old. No, no, no. He drinks the blood of children. He'll be fine. Actually, you know, I have to joke about this because this is a... There's nothing more deadly serious. But I think you were saying this before. No matter where we are, we are commanded to rejoice in the Lord always. Wherever we are, whether we're going to... to be martyred or whether we're going to have a full and productive life. We rejoice in the Lord,

we give our lives to him, and we do our best in the moment. I don't think I would have been called by God to write my new book letter to the American Church unless it was God's will that the American Church repent of its silence and lead the way to, to quote Lincoln, a new birth of freedom. I think Lincoln was speaking prophetically when he said that and that we have yet to experience the new birth of freedom. But I guess, you know, wherever we are, we're supposed to do our job and we're supposed to do our job with joy. We're supposed to be happy warriors to quote Reagan. It's interesting because Reagan does come closest to Trump. I mean, at the end of my new book, I write a chapter about his famous speech in Berlin when he said Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall.

And all of the uniparty, big state people, Howard Baker and Colin Powell, and all of them said, you can't say that. You mustn't say that. Because like Trump, he was uncontrolled. He was an outsider and they couldn't control him. So as soon as Trump became president, they said, look, we know you said you were going to end this uranium arms deal. But you can't really do that. You understand that. He said, no, no, we're canceling that. Mr. President, I know you said you were going to withdraw us from the Paris Climate Accords where we're expected to pay $365 million a year. but you know we really can't do. No, we're doing that. So right off the bat, they realized that they can't co-opt him

and they can't control him, and he's actually going to do those things that in the campaign he said he was going to do. And that terrifies them. That's why you see this unbridled hatred because the idea that he's coming back, and I believe the Kim Clement prophecy, that he will serve two terms, I believe that.

He is coming back. He's coming back. And that just drives them completely insane. why they're out to destroy him. Well, there's no question about that. And I do, and you do, I mean, even apart from the Kim Clement prophecy, in the natural, it seems to me that even someone as wonderful as Ron DeSantis can't really compare to Trump in this hour.

He is a warrior. And I think because he has been put through such hell, he understands what he's dealing with in a way that he didn't in his first term. Well, what he's trying to do is not easy to do. Martin Van Buren tried. Theodore Roosevelt tried. Herbert Hoover tried. Grover Cleveland tried.

Only one of them succeeded in serving. Grover Cleveland. A New Yorker, a New Yorker who was elected, was defeated in a disputed election, and then came back to win again. 22 and 24. Grover Cleveland. Write it down. I love the fact that you're going back to Cleveland and Van Buren. I don't, I mean, I think, listen, if you're as politically astute and well-versed as you are,

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888-253-3522 or metaxistalk.com. Click on the Christian Solidarity banner at the top of the page. Welcome back talking to Roger Stone. Roger, you were just going to make a point. Go ahead. Yeah, you were saying, and you're correct, that the old rules are kind of canceled, and you're absolutely right.

So before Donald Trump, all of your presidents were either senators, governors, or generals. He's your first business person to become president. And therefore, the fact that past presidents have tried to make a comeback and fail, doesn't mean that Trump will necessarily fail. In fact, as I pointed out, one president, Cleveland was successful in doing so. Trump still has the largest subsection of the Republican grassroots primary electorate, and I think he's got a hard lock on 40% of the vote.

They're not going to defeat him for this nomination if he wants it, and he clearly wants it. We were both in the room when he announced it. He's taking a beating in the press, most of it generated by the party bosses and the other elites in the the media who are aligned with them, who absolutely fear his comeback. So I think he drops back now to be the 2015-2016 Trump, Trump, the outsider. Mr. President, no congressmen are endorsing you. Absolutely right, because that whole system's rotten and we need term limits. Next question. I mean, I think it's, I think that you turn that into a plus, not a deficit. Oh, there's no doubt about it. Listen, I just find it funny because they are, they are right to be scared to death.

of the re-emergence of Donald Trump. They are right because whatever game they've been playing is being exposed and he will do his best to expose it. I simply don't think that there's anybody who has the talent, the sheer talent that he does. But let's talk about character. You said, Trump said when he was running, he's going to do this and this and this and this. And everybody assumed, no, he's not. He actually did. And it's the first time in my life, I assume in yours, that a politician said he was going to do things and then blew everyone's minds by actually doing it. Doing what you say you're going to do is a character issue. And I'm astonished that he doesn't get more credit for that. Well, because his stubbornness is both his greatest asset and also his greatest vulnerability. Yeah. So it depends on whether you're looking at it as the glass being half full or half empty. When it comes to policy, it's a huge asset. He actually does what he says he's going to do. No, we're not raising taxes.

This is also true of Reagan. As soon as Reagan got elected, they said, you realize we can't really cut taxes. No, no, we're doing a three-year tax cut. No, but you understand we can't really do it. Of course, he did it. He insisted upon it. It was his successor, George Bush, who said, read my lips, no new taxes, and then immediately, upon election,

raised taxes. The functional end of Reaganism, actually, right then and there. So it's also his stubbornness in the sense that I do think, in all honesty, and you'll get some hate mail on this, the 2020 election is not going to be overturned. It rightfully should be. There's more than enough evidence of actual fraud to justify that. But there is no legal precedent or mechanism to do that, and that's not going to happen. What did Nixon say? Always look forward, never look back. We have to make sure that the next election is not stolen. And therefore, we need election. law reform. You need it in Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia at a minimum, because if you don't get it in Pennsylvania and Michigan, which you're not going to, I can't come to 270 electoral votes to elect another Republican president or another non-globalist president without those three

states. So if I were doing this, not that I know much about it, I would be focusing on getting election reform in those three states, because with Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina, I can get you to 270 electoral votes, because I can pretty much tell you where every other state will go. So it's my assessment that not getting the red wave was a good thing because it forces everyone to deal with the reality in front of us, that we have more work to do. That is one of the pluses. Look, it would be great if we had taken both houses by a huge majority, but if so, then Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy would be running the country, and there would be no change in the direction of this country whatsoever. A slim majority in the

House, as I said for weeks before the election, is beneficial because now a handful of radicals are in the driver's seat, and they're going to win something here. They may or may not be able to deny McCarthy the speakership. But if he gets it, he will only get it by making concessions to them regarding vacating the chair. These are arcane rules, but they allow for real serious change and reform, as well as the membership of certain committees, so that you're putting real patriots in the chairmanship of some of the most important and sensitive committees. So a closer margin is better than a big margin. I never thought there was a red wave coming.

It turned out to be a pink drizzle in the end. But that was very predictable based on the fact that very few states change their election laws and the exact same problems we had two years ago we have yet again. Arizona is really simple to understand. The tabulators that count your vote are made to take a sheet of paper that is 19 inches long. They are tested in Maricopa County in every precinct with ballots that are 19 inches long. The next morning, ballots that are 20 inches long are shipped to each one of the polling places that are

most heavily Republican, and the tabulating machine will not take the ballot. So is this merely corruption, or is this criminal? It is criminal corruption. It is both. Okay. I mean, this was done knowingly. Oh, sir, your ballot won't fit in the tab. We just throw it in that box over there. We'll count it later. Sure you will. This is the most egregious theft I have ever seen. It is absolutely scientifically, mathematically, and methodologically provable. This is not like some conspiracy here. Well, because Carrie Lake is such a hero and such a fighter, do you think she will prevail in revealing these things? I have to answer your question with a question. Are there any honest federal judges anywhere out there?

Because we don't know the answer. She's got the case. But as Roy Cohn used to say, don't tell me the case, tell me the judge. What we need here is an honest judge. She's got the evidence. She can prove this election was stolen. It's incontrovertible. It's absolutely true. I've seen it. The question is, can you get it considered by an honest judge? I don't know

the answer to that. Okay. Now, we know, of course, in Pennsylvania, you know, we don't have a Kerry Lake figure to fight, but do you believe, as I do, that Federman did not, in fact, grunt his way to victory, but was handed victory? Yes, but I think that we did that to ourselves. Mail-in ballots are an invitation for fraud. Bill Barr, remember him? He was Attorney General. Before he decided that wasn't true, he said it was true. He said it with Wolf Blitzer on CNN in an interview. Mail-in ballots are a terrible idea. It's an open invitation for fraud.

And the Philadelphia Democratic machine has this down to a science, to an art form. There are still precincts in Philadelphia where more people voted than are registered to vote. But as long as you have mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania will always be out of reach. And the mail-in ballot system in Pennsylvania was passed by the Republicans in both houses and signed into law by a Democratic governor. So it doesn't matter how good your candidate is, not that our candidate was great. although I like the guy who ran for governor. And it doesn't matter how bad their candidate is. I mean, Federman makes Joe Biden look like Albert Einstein or Ronald Reagan.

He is that out of it. Did he actually win? Probably not. But that's probably the single most corrupt electoral system in the country other than Nevada. So do you think that there's a path forward for the nation? Because to me, I mean, one thing I know. if most Americans feel so disenfranchised that I don't know if my vote's going to even count. That's the end of America.

You cannot have ordered liberty if most people don't actually feel, have some trust in the institutions. So I guess the point of this would be it won't matter who the Republicans nominate if the election system is corrupted. And therefore, whether you're Ron DeSantis or whether you're Donald Trump or whether you're Nikki Haley or whether you're Mike Pompeo, God forbid. You should be focusing your presidential campaign on a demand for electoral reform in three states, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. Why do I pick those three? Because there's a Republican majority in both houses in the legislature in those three states. There is your opportunity. Fix the election system in those three states, and we will have another America First President. Why do you say, God forbid, Mike Pompeo? Well, Mike Pompeo is the one who said

that Julian Assange was a foreign state actor. Mike Pompeo is deep state right down to his underwear. He's not in America first. A terrific article in Yahoo about his plans to assassinate Assange when he was the CIA director. Now, claiming that Assange is not a journalist, but a Russian agent, is the entire underpinnings of the Russian collusion hoax. And he's responsible for that hoax. So he laid the groundwork for that hoax. I'm kind of an expert on this because the basis of my indictment, was the false claim that the Democratic National Committee was subject to an online hack by Russian intelligence and that those files somehow got their way to me

and from me to the Trump campaign. There was never even a hack. The judge would not allow us to introduce forensic evidence or expert testimony to prove that there was no online hack. But Pompeo is the CIA director. He knows what really happened, and he, of course, said nothing. When we come back, I'm going to ask your view. of former vice president, Mike Pence and many other things, talking to Roger Stone.

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former vice president, Michael Pence. The idea that in the Republican Party, somebody who served as vice president for four years, cannot break double digits as the choice for the next presidential nomination speaks volumes. He has no national constituency. He had to make a fundamental choice, whether he was going to be in the establishment globalist party of the Bushes or whether he was going to be in America first Republican.

He made his choice, think it was the wrong choice. I'm not a lawyer. There are lawyers who tell me that he could have asked the state legislatures to reconsider the vote in a number of states. I don't think that's an act of treason, nor do I think it's seditious. I think it was within his legal authority. I think it would have been patriotic and courageous to do that. But he's an inside the beltway figure. Well, if we didn't know that, I guess January 6th probably told us that. Well, also his entire career has been financed by Big Pharma. Big Pharma is the biggest single national product of Indiana.

That's where most of these pharmaceutical giants are based. He was the right choice when he was chosen. Trump had been a New Yorker. He had been a libertine. He had changed. He was a changed man, but there were a lot of people who doubted it. And therefore, picking someone who was outspoken about their faith was the right political decision at the time.

But the only people I know who think he is a viable candidate for president are either on his payroll or they're reporters who live inside the Beltway. He has no constituency in the party, none. We've been talking about many things. You were some months ago on, I think it was Elijah Streams, talking about, you know, when somebody says he's become a Christian, you know, there's levels. When you're talking about the supernatural, there are a lot of people that go, I don't know, that sounds weird to me.

You were talking about something extraordinary, and I just love you to touch on that subject because it's at least very interesting. I think that there has that a portal, a demonic portal, opened above the world. White House around the time that the Biden's moved in. This was brought to my attention by a Christian who lives in North Florida who sent me a bunch of photographs and a bunch of documents and also some notations in the in the Bible about portals. And I was like okay sure. Okay. I appreciate it. Well, I mean, you should start out by being skeptical. I was extremely skeptical. That sounds insane to me. Exactly what I do. But please continue. So I was skeptical about it.

But I looked at the photos, and you can also, there's a live cam where you can actually see in real time, and there does appear to be something, you know, above the White House. Something inexplicable. Well, at first you say, well, maybe it's a reflection. Maybe it's an aerostat balloon. You know, maybe there's a logical. So I called a police officer, I know, who works in Arlington. It's a friend of mine.

And I said, look, do me a favor. Would you get out and check this out? He said, are you out of your mind? I said, no, just humor me. Just humor me. Go down there and check it out and tell me what, call me back and tell me what you see. Right. And take photos.

And he called me back about two and a half hours later. And he said, you're not going to believe this, but there's definitely something there. And it's there. He said, other people were there photographing it. One man called and said, you can see it day or night. It's like a smudge in the sky, almost like a cloud that doesn't move. But when you zoom in on it with a telephonic lens, It's swirling like a cauldron.

Now, wait a minute. So this is like, what, eight months ago? Yes. Okay. So this is a cop. Yes. Telling you that he doesn't know what the heck it is, but it's something. But yeah, there's something there.

Correct. Has this persisted? Yes, it's still there. It's still there. It's still there. Okay. That's nuts. Like, how has the media not covered this?

Well, the media doesn't cover a lot of things that are true. The point, of course, is that the prophets, who I do believe, and other holy men have told me that only prayer can close the demonic portal. I believe that as well. I actually address it in my prayers every night. But there's something going on there. There's no question about it. You can think I'm crazy.

Go look for yourself. Don't take my word for it. I was just going to say, I just think that, you know, skepticism is healthy. But then the question is, okay, what is this? Why would a cop who initially says that sounds nuts, but okay, I'll look. And then he tells you, well, yeah. I have four dozen photographs of it that either he took or other people have sent me saved in my cell phone. There's clearly something there.

I'm looking for a logical explanation. Is it a reflection from the reflecting pool? Or is it a, you know, some device they use for weather? No, there's no logical explanation. I believe it is a demonic portal. So now Salon and the Daily Beast will beat the crap out of both of us for even bringing this up. Oh, goody. The thing is, I'm not familiar with the concept of portals, demonic, or otherwise,

and so I don't have a category. I can't say anything other than the fact that I do believe the Biden administration is under a curse. And when I say that, I mean that I believe that every single thing this administration puts its hand to is destined to be disaster. And it's not just to fail, but to be disastrous. And what happened in the Afghanistan withdrawal, what has happened on innumerable occasions, it's just disaster upon disaster. I don't think a day passes that the president doesn't say something terrifically embarrassing. We've never seen anything like this.

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But I'm talking, you know, when I say there's a curse on this administration. See, this is the thing, I feel like we're living in unprecedented times. In that, I think that even if you aren't a person of faith, I think that there are just many normal, decent patriots around America. They're looking around and they're saying, you know what, I've never seen anything like that. There's madness unleashed on this country, the transgender lunacy, the idea that we could defund police, the idea that we could have open borders. Wherever you look, you see not just difference of opinion, but unshirted lunacy. And so I think a lot of people are coming to the conclusion that this is different.

This is, it seems like there's evil. It seems like there's something going on that we can't explain. the way we used to explain things. It seems that the Democratic Party is, you know, speeding toward Marxism. We're not dealing with Tip O'Neill anymore. So I think this is a clarifying moment for the nation. And I also think that it's an existential crisis. We are in a war, as you said earlier, between good and evil. But that's simply become clearer. It wasn't clear a decade or two go. Well, if you believe the Bible, and we do, then you believe Satan exists, and he does, and you believe there are demons, and therefore a portal in which demons enter this realm,

it's not such a crazy idea at all, and that these demons populate the Biden administration, well, I mean, look at some of them. You can't tell whether they are men or women. They don't seem to know either. Actually, I didn't even want to go there because it's so nauseating, revolting, but there are figures in this administration that they almost seem there to mock America, to mock the nation, to mock the blood of the patriots who died for this nation. But if we don't accept their cracked worldview, we're the haters, we're the extremists. We're the conspiracy notes. That's the irony. If we say simple like, no, I'm sorry, there are only two genders. God made men and God made women. You're a hater. No, I'm rational. That's rational.

Yeah, sorry, kids. You're wrong. It's rationality. Well, anyway, I think that, you know, when you, I want to applaud you for your willingness to talk about these things, whether it's a demonic portal over the White House or whatever it is, because I think part of what has happened is we've all been forced to make a choice. Do I keep quiet and go along? to get along. Do I, in a, do I, do I, am, will I be silent in the face of evil or will I speak? And I think that, uh, some people have chosen the safe traditionalist establishment path. Uh, and others have been emboldened by the madness in which we're living, uh, through which we're going. And those who have been particularly attacked myself and to a much greater extent, obviously you and

others have really become bolder than ever rather than shrink away. We've been emboldened because you say, well, what do I have to lose? I'm putting my trust in God. And so I do see good things happening. I mean, I see good things happening in a lot of different places. So I'm generally hopeful. It's the third category of people that disturb me. It is those who are completely asleep, whose the slow motion cancellation of their rights and freedoms is happening so slowly that they don't even notice. Actually, Roger, that's what I meant when I said those who have made the choice to kind of go along to get along.

There's some people, no, that's a different group. Those are people who are wise to what we're saying. They know what's going on, but they either just keep going to the country club and sending money to the RNC and pretend it's not. Right. Then there are those who are actually doing the evil. Right. But it's that third category who they think it's kind of odd, but, you know, I got to get kids to Little League.

And, you know, tonight's my bingo night. And, you know, who's going to be in the Super Bowl this year? They're just, they're not awake. They don't see it. And the first time they saw it, people said, oh, you've got to get this vaccination. And they said, okay, well, you know, I got the polio vaccination. And that worked out okay. And I guess the government says it's a good idea.

And I want to be safe. I want my kids to be safe. and they never focused on the fact that there were never any clinical trials, that the people who made it had no legal liability for it. And they certainly didn't focus on the fact that we were told over and over and over again that if you took the vaccination, it would prevent you from becoming infected. That's the definition of a vaccination. Is it not? Yet, why then would I need a booster if the first vaccination was supposed to work?

So now I do think that that has woken up millions of people. Oh, yeah. And they wore the masks, and then they began to realize that the wearing of the mask was going to destroy the economy, and they were no longer going to have a job or any income, but it didn't matter because all the stores you would go to buy groceries were closed anyway. So I think it has woken up a lot of people. But there still are those. We saw them today. Walking down the street wearing a mask, for what? Even Fauci says in his deposition, the masks have no medicinal or scientific value. No doctor I know thinks the masks are going to are going to, are going to, are going to, to protect you in any way. He says it under oath. Yet there's still people out on the street outside the studio right now, wearing masks. Why? It's, again, we're living through crazy times. But I think that, you know, as we've been saying, I think many people are coming to faith as a result of it.

There's no other logical solution. You look around and you say this is crazy. Who are the people that see that it's crazy and are speaking plainly. about it, well, some outspoken Christians. That is the silver lining of everything I've been through. I may be materially much poorer, but I'm spiritually much richer. And I now know that no matter what happens, that I have God's protection, it has a happy ending. And that's why I am a happy warrior. That's why I'm still prepared to go on shows like this and say what I really think. And there will be a cost in the short term, but there will be no cost in the long term because we commit ourselves to God's

truth. It's liberating in a way you can't even understand. Had this not happened to me, I would have burned in hell forever. I was a libertine. Look, God has often chosen corrupted vessels, broken people to do his well. God knows I'm a sinner. I've done crazy, outrageous things when I was younger. I'm not that person anymore. They now want to say, oh, but you did. Yeah, I did. That was then. This is now. I believe in redemption, above all. Well, isn't it extraordinary that some people don't believe in redemption. And if you want to understand how the cancel culture is atheistic, Marxist, and satanic, it's that they don't, they want to find the sin, the thing you did wrong, to beat you with it forever and ever and ever. Satan, the accuser, precisely the opposite of God who wants

to enable forgiveness and redemption. Roger, we're out of time for today, but we're going to lock the doors and we're going to keep talking and we will air it another day. However, thank you for today. Great to be here. Welcome back. Albin, I keep wanting to throw out gift ideas. Now, listen, maybe people think it would be self-serving for me to recommend my own books. I didn't write the books to make money. I wrote the books because God created me to be a writer and to tell all these stories. I'm very proud of them. You can get most of my books. Well, you can get them anywhere, but you can get them at my store.com, which is Mike Lindell's website. There's all kinds of wacky, products there, but my store.com, you can get my books. You can get a Bonhoeffer poster, which, by the way, it's glorious, it's beautiful. It really is amazing. So I just want to recommend my books because I, listen, if I could give them away for free, and sometimes I do, I want to get the word out to people about the heroes I've written about, about, you know, the substance

of our faith being how rational it is to believe in the God of the Bible. And so I wrote his atheism. So anyway, those are my books. But if you do go to MyStore.com and you decide, well, maybe I don't want to get Eric's book today. There are a zillion other crazy products. Alvin, you and I are like laughing ourselves sick looking at these. They have the Tick Patrol tick remover. Yeah.

Who doesn't want a tick remover? Who wants ticks? Let's be honest. Very few people actually does. desire ticks. Well, the Tick Patrol Tick Remover, you can get it at my store.com, use the code Eric. And I'm not going to tell you about it because it's just too, it's too real. It's too real. But it's, is it,

is it tweezers maybe to get rid of the ticks? No, it's, it works. Stop ticks in their tracks with the Tick Patrol tick remover. Freedom four pack removes ticks head and all. A lot of these tick removers, you know, they just give you the semblance of tick removal. This removes the actual entire tick head and all. So, you know, if you're a camper or you're, you're on tick patrol, you know, this is, this is important stuff. But there's all kinds of other stuff. They've got, they've got so many products. They have the, the breathtaking tongue cleaner. Oh.

They also have an amazing temporary tooth replacement. Did you know that? No. Yeah. If you're missing a tooth, you have to go to my store.com, browse around. Just don't forget to use the code Eric when you buy these things. But it says with amazing temporary tooth, that's the title. With amazing temporary tooth, it's easy to fill that missing tooth with a realistic looking tooth that is comfortable and will give you the confidence to smile again.

this is not made up. They're 15 to 20 temporary teeth in every product. I think you have to look into this. All right. Now we need to get serious for a minute. We keep saying this because we believe in it. If you really want to give a gift that is not goofy or not practical, but that's just beautiful, you can participate in freeing a slave.

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So if you just are a kid or you just want to, you know, they want to give $10. We want to put all your names in a hat. Anybody who gives $10,000, I want to have dinner with you or spend the evening with you. I keep throwing that out there. Anybody gives $1,000, which will free force slaves. We want to reward you and thank you in person. When you come to the radio studio, we'd be delighted to have you there. But you have to go to metaxistocococ.com. This is just the greatest Christmas gift, folks. Anything. Any amount you give, metaxistock.com. You'll see the banner right at the top of the page. Please be generous. This is an amazing, amazing, amazing thing. God bless you.