The Eric Metaxas Show - Ryan Cole (Encore)

Episode Date: October 2, 2021

Dr. Ryan Cole has an update on the COVID vaccine and the potential for unwanted, even dangerous, reactions and side effects. For help, check out: MyFreeDoctor.com. (Encore Presentation)

Welcome to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Whoa. Hey, it's Friday. I know. It's friday, as our friend Shannon Breem says. I have a big announcement to make. For me, it's huge. Actually, it is.

It is. Yesterday, leaving the studio here, I walked downstairs. I saw some boxes, and I said, that's weird. What's that? And I ripped them open. And do you know what it was? What was it? It was copies of my new book,

Is Atheism Dead? You mean this book? Wow. Yes. Is atheism dead? I cannot tell you what it is for an author to open up a box and to see something he's never seen before, which is the book that he's worked on for a very long time,

killed himself on almost, and then to see, there it is, there it is. Any mistake that's in there, I can't change it now, I am so excited about this book. I'm going to talk about this in a minute. I got some exciting things to share from the inside of the book, which I cannot show you until a moment from now. Now, by the way, we are airing this opening 10 in both hours today. In a minute, I'm speaking to either Greg Lorry, you know, our friend, Pastor Greg Lorry, Harvest, Southern California. They're doing a crusade this weekend, but also we're going to re-air in our two.

the interview I did yesterday with Dr. Ryan Cole. In the beginning of it, the audio is not great, but it gets better. It's blockbuster information. This is a guy who I've steered away from getting into the weeds of the vaccine and that stuff. But the idea that the government is using its power to bully people into getting this. when I keep reading information that says, no, don't get it. I mean, I would think that you would at least let people make their own decisions. And the fact of the matter is, according to Johns Merak, all three lines, all three vaccines were made in a way that depended on the bodies of aborted babies.

Now, John Smirak writes about that. And I thought to myself, what about religious objections? and what about the idea that the government is never supposed to push on this kind of stuff? So the idea that you have a president pushing, I just thought this is so out of line. Let's talk to somebody who can at least get us some facts so we can make informed decisions. So that's coming up. That's in hour two today. So depending on what hour of this is, I don't know.

Okay, Albin, I got to share two things. And then I want to tell you about my book. Yes, you do. Oh, I got to read a letter. Yes, you do. Yesterday, somebody, or this morning, somebody writes, Eric, you had a doctor on your show yesterday. Now, that's Ryan Cole, who we're going to air today. Again, we're going to re-air the same interview.

The doctor said there were 15,000 deaths from the vaccine. Now, that's not, I mean, this is from the VERS website. This is an official website, I believe. But he says I was going to ask them questions about that. And then the next segment, the radio played music for about 10 minutes. It was like they were trying to squelch the narrative and the truth about the vaccine. I don't know about that. All I know is if you're listening to this program and something happens weird like that,

like the audio goes out or whatever, please email us. We read every single email. We want to know. We want to contact the people at the station. This was California. Right. So I really do, you know, so we're going to play that again today in its entire time. hour one, my friend Greg Lory, an hour two, that.

And also go to Rumble, and you'll be able to see the interview there as well. And please share that on Rumble. Okay, I keep saying this. Since we were canceled from YouTube, most people don't know that we're getting this show out on video. So I'm going to ask you, please sign up for the newsletter, Eric Mataxis.com. We'll send you the videos, the Ryan Cole video. We already sent that out yesterday. every video we do just about, we will send to your email, and that way you can say, hey, I don't know we interviewed this guy.

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But in lieu of that, we can just call this a what can I do segment for the next two minutes. Anything you can do that's positive, okay? It might not directly, immediately affect things, but it will affect things. One of the things you can do, marriage and families are under attack in America, religious liberties under attack in America. that's why we're asking you to give to ADF. But before I tell you about the Alliance Defending Freedom, and before I beg you to write a check to them, I want to tell you about Endgame.

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One of the reasons we're living in crazy times is because never in my lifetime, at least, have people been so confused about the messaging that comes out of the media establishment, out of the medical establishment. You know things are out of kilter when millions, scores of millions of Americans don't trust, the information that's coming to them from official sources. So it's at least a crisis, at least a crisis. Never mind who's got the right information, at least agree with me that whatever you think about the vaccine, for example, it's not appropriate in a free republic like this for people to wonder whether the information they're getting is heavily biased because

of big money, big tech, big pharma, political agendas. That's simply not the way a Republic can function. I have friends all over the board politically and on these medical issues, but I think that it's important finally that I spoke with somebody on this program who can help us.

I saw Dr. Ryan Cole give a presentation. I have to credit my wife, Suzanne, for pointing me to him. And I was so impressed, I thought, who's this guy? So we looked him up. Here's who he is. He's a board certified Dermato

pathologist and he's the medical director CEO of Cole Diagnostics. I don't want to waste any more time. He has a lot to say and he sounds tremendously credible. Dr. Ryan Cole, it's our privilege to welcome you to the Eric Metaxa show. Thanks for your time. Thank you, Eric. Just real quick, so dermatopathology is my subspecialty. A lot of critics say, oh, he's a skin pathologist. Well, I'm also an anatomic pathologist, clinical pathologist, trained in the Mayo Clinic, did PhD research in immunology. So I have a background in immunology, virology, all of pathology, and skin pathology, my subspecialty. I'm glad you said that because there are people often who, rather than look you up, they will just dismiss you because I didn't say those things. So thank you for clarifying that.

where I first saw you, I think it was a hearing in Iowa maybe, is that right? Idaho, yeah. Idaho, sorry. Presentation to my state legislature. It was just an educational session, lunchtime. You know, here's some tidbits on COVID. I thought I was giving a lunch chat to 100 people, not realizing tens of millions of people in this day and age would end up seeing that.

Well, you know why they saw it? They saw it because they are so hungry for information that when, somebody dares to give out some information that sounds credible, suddenly people say, hey, have you seen this? Have you seen this? There's not a lot of it. I just want to ask you, before you get into specifics, how do you see it as possible that we could be at this place in America where people are completely mystified as to who's telling the truth or as to why certain things would be suppressed? We've never been here before. What is your take on this? What is your history as a physician that brings you to where you are today?

It's really confusing. I agree. And never in the history of humanity, medicine, have we ever censored brilliant voices. I have colleagues like you, all stripes politically. To me, a virus is not red, politically blue, politically purple. It's a humanitarian issue. So the plain and simple challenge that we're suppressing voices in the middle of a pandemic, is really disturbing because all data, all science should be shared. We should be able to have professional dialogue. I constantly invite my colleagues, look, if you don't agree with what

I'm sharing, bring your data. Let's sit down, have lunch, coffee, a Zoom, whatever, and let's find the data that does jive and correlate so that we can best treat the patient. This is about patient care. This is about saving lives. So it's very confusing. I agree. that voices are being suppressed. If all data and all information is allowed to be brought forth, then the cream will always rise to the top, and the answer will be there. So there are powerful financial interests,

there are systems interests, but at the end of the day, there are those of us in medicine that only care about how do we best serve and treat the patient, that sacred relationship of doctor and patient. Well, Ryan, if I can call you, Ryan, let me just ask you, I saw you talk about, I mean, first of all, you make pretty clear that you don't think getting these vaccines is a great idea.

You've made that pretty clear. Give us some basics because there are people out there who just think anybody who says that is just flat out crazy. What I've looked at tells me no. It's a very bad idea to get the vaccine, but, you know, I'm not a doctor. You are a doctor. So tell us. Well, I think we approach this as everything's a hammer, everything's a nail. There's a one-size-fits-all approach, governmentally, nationally, medically.

And we really need to consider who are the risk groups. So our targeted approach should be high risk. Maybe you do the vaccines for those individuals, but it's still not without its risks. Number two, contagion control. If you're sick, stay home, wash your hands. masks are incredibly questionable and controversial, but there's no data in the last decades and decades that show in a randomized control trial that they work. Even the Bangladesh study that just came out, if you look at age zero to 30, no benefit. And then number three, early treatment and number four

early treatment and number five early treatment. But the vaccines themselves are not without risk. And we're using this one-size-fits-all approach to all groups and say under age 50 without risk factors, 99.98% of people survive the virus with early treatment, almost 100%. I'm not saying that people aren't going to, you know, succumb to the virus, but to pound groups of individuals that are at more risk from the shot than benefit is scientifically illogical and unethical, especially the pediatric population. The kids survived this statistically at 100%. If you look at the California studies that just came out a week or two ago, they show, look, there's a six. times increased of heart damage compared to hospitalization with COVID. So in life, everything's a

risk-benefit analysis. Everything should be a personal choice, but to mandate something for which the side effect could be death and or permanent disability is illogical medically. I heard you talk about increased rates of cancer from people taking the vaccine. In other words, it was my understanding that this so-called vaccine suppresses our immune system's ability to deal with certain cancers. That is a nightmare. How has that not been reported? And am I getting that right? Correct. Back in 2005, when some of the early inventors of mRNA technology were looking at what MRI shots would do in trials. And these are two people whose names are now in some big papers, along with Dr. Malone, colleague of mine, for Nobel Prize consideration. In those studies, we saw suppression of certain cell markers.

These are called toll-like receptors. And so it behooves all my colleagues to look into this. I'm not just blowing scientific smoke. I'm saying, look at this. And then if you look at a study that came out of the Netherlands, these toll-like receptors, they're responsible to toll-like receptor three and four. I'm getting in the weeds, but if you look at what those do, those have a critical role at immune system modulation saying, okay, this cell turn on, this cell turn off to keep cancers in check. And there's also toll like receptors 7 and 8 that keep other viruses in check.

So if you look at people that got, say, the Moderna shot, big article in JAMA that says, look, huge increase in shingles after this shot. That's because we're getting immune dysregulation post shot. Now, in my lab, we're seeing a subtle uptick of certain types of cancer, so I've reached out to other colleagues and said, hey, we need to be looking at this. I don't have enough statistical power within just one lab, but I've talked to a lab in Germany, a lab in Sweden, other labs in the U.S. And if we power our data together, we can all look at these markers and say, why? Why are we seeing these upticks right after vaccination started? Okay, we've got, go ahead, sorry. No, that's, that's, I can get really, we've got, we've got time, and I want to get into this stuff with you, but the headline is that based on everything you know, you are suggesting most people do not get the vaccines, correct? Very few, very targeted, elderly at risk. But, yeah, my big point is it's not the safest shot, and it's not even the right shot anymore. it's for the Wuhan spike that's not even in circulation anymore.

It left the world, essentially. We're pretty much a Delta world now. And that Wuhan shot for a Delta variant, it doesn't prevent acquisition of virus. It doesn't prevent transmission of virus. It doesn't prevent infection with virus. And people are getting mandated to take a shot that doesn't do any of those things or lose their job. So it may provide a small benefit to some people in terms of, severity of symptoms or decreased hospitalization, but you also have to weigh the risk

benefit of the potential side effects and or damage. So it's not the best approach to take in the middle of a fast-spreading virus. Well, again, the headline to me is that everything you've just said is not available anywhere in the mainstream media. And I simply wonder, what world are we living in that that's the case? That seems to me extraordinary. and at least people should be reporting on that. We'll be right back talking to Dr. Ryan Cole. We fixed our audio issues. Forgive us for that, folks.

I'm talking to Dr. Ryan Cole about the vaccines and the coronaviruses. You mentioned, Dr. Cole, you said that this vaccine that everybody is being bullied into getting doesn't do anything for the delta-variation. that is now making the rounds. I guess you didn't say doesn't do anything, but it's geared toward the Wuhan virus, which is now out of circulation. We're dealing with this new variant,

and we're being told to get these vaccines for the Delta variant. Now, I spoke with a friend last night. We agree on almost everything except this issue. She said that she has a brother, top top doctor who said that the Delta variant is so scary. We don't know what the long-term effects are. like Lyme or something better to get the vaccine. What do you say to that?

Well, I say we don't know what the long-term effects of the vaccine are. So it's kind of an apples-to-apples comparison. Are you willing to roll the dice on the natural immune system recovering from a virus, especially if you get early treatment that can help you get through the infection? Well, we talk about that because nobody knows about early treatment except a handful of people. everybody else just goes to the hospital, and the hospitals have protocols that don't allow them to give what works. Am I making that up? Tell us about that. You're not making it up at all.

The fact that our medical profession is not recognizing this is plain and simple a virus that causes an inflammatory clotting disease. We have lots of medicines. We can discuss the drugs that shall not be named, that they demonize and gaslight in the media. but at the same time, the moment you have COVID, if you're not allergic, you start on an aspirin. It blocks clotting. There are anti-inflammatory medicines we have used for decades in medicine. They're not giving people with pulmonary symptoms nebulize butesinide, a steroid that stops inflammation in the lungs. About day five of symptoms, we should be putting every patient on a strong steroid to stop inflammation.

People don't die from the virus. They die from the hyperinflamation the virus causes. They die from the clotting the virus causes. So even if you take away hydroxychloriclin or ibupmectin from the doctors, there are other medicines that we've used in medicine. So for the NIH to be therapeutically nihilistic and say there's nothing we can do for COVID is pure anti-science. Okay, who is the head of the NIH?

Well, we do have our Dr. Fauci's of the world who, you know, NIAID, but he kind of controls the purse strings of the NIH. and there are so many people on the... Is that Dr. Francis Collins? Collins, Fauci, they're all in it together. All right, this is very strange. I mean, I've met Dr. Collins many times. I am just fascinated that there is such a breakdown in communication

that somebody like you, whom I've heard a number of times, you make the case, others have corroborated what you're saying, and then you get folks who are brilliant, like Francis Collins, who completely disagrees, How is this possible? What is happening in America that people cannot get simple answers? I just am fascinated. Why would NIH have a problem with everything you're suggesting and say, no, no, no, no, no, those things don't work.

Why? I would say conflicts of interest follow the money. NIH holds the patent on sequence for the spike protein that they licensed to Moderna for their shots. when they said Ivermectin, they had to take a neutral position, and the NIH says neither for nor against Ivermectin, and it's not a one-drug approach to this disease. Don't get me wrong, it's a sequence multi-drug approach, but you can use one drug, add another, add another, and I, between myself and other colleagues, we have a track record of decreasing hospitalization in death by 85% with these generic, safe, cheap, outpatient medicines compared to standard

of care or lack of standard of care directed by our government agencies. So yes, these are brilliant doctors, but they have an intertwining corporate interest with lots of these large pharmaceutical companies. And I'm not saying, I'm not casting aspersions. I'm just saying if you do follow the money and look at the agencies that are corporate regulatory captured by big money, then you do have to, you do have to question. So I have nothing to gain from cheap generic drugs working at saving lives. So the question becomes, why do they not look at early outpatient treatments? Why a year and a half into a pandemic, do we not have a national policy for early outpatient treatment for an inflammatory clotting disease? But that's what I'm asking. Why are you, I don't know why

you're, you're walking on eggshells. I mean, this is staggering that we would not have clear answers to these questions. People are dying. It seems to me, unless I'm missing something, people are dying because some folks in the NIH or in the Fauci world don't care. They are acting as though this doesn't have anything to do with human lives. Do you think that they simply don't understand that people are dying because they are mandating, I don't mean the vaccine, but they are, they seem unwilling to talk about these other alternatives for what looks like financial reasons. I mean, that's clearly against the Hippocratic Oath.

It's really basic stuff here. Every American understands doctors are supposed to do everything they can to help us. It makes it what you're saying sounds clearly like that's not the case, in which case it's a scandal. It's a repeat of what happened back in the 80s and the 90s with antibiotics that would cure pneumonia and HIV patients. and the treatments and the data and the knowledge were withheld. If we look at developing nations, if we look at developing nations where the pandemic is done,

the northern province of India, Uttar Pradesh, 70% of the U.S. population, 240 million people in that province. They got through the Delta variant. They have 70% antibody prevalence. What did they do in their province? They passed out blister packs of ivermectin, a couple of supplements. We've got a heartbreak. We're going to come back right on that.

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Hey there, folks. I'm talking to Dr. Ryan Cole. We're talking about the disease, the COVID pandemic. We're talking about the vaccines. I'm of the opinion, Dr. Cole, that honestly, it is seriously unwise to get the vaccine. But everywhere I turn, there's a chorus of voices demanding that I get it. I just can't believe I live in this kind of in America.

where something so simple has become so complicated. You just said what they did in a province in India flat out works, that all this stuff, ivormectin, hydrochloroquine, all of these things simply work. But if I get this disease and I go to a hospital or I go to a doctor, chances are they will steer me in another direction. Why? What is telling them to steer me away from these things that work and toward, what would they give me?

what was the thing that, what is mandated? I mean, what do they, what is the protocol that they're using? Well, not a whole lot for one. Remdesivir is one they'll give you. They usually, by the time you're at the hospital, you're past the viral replication stage, and they still give you remdesivir, which has just one mechanism to block viral replication,

but it's really kidney toxic. In a quarter of the animals in the mammal trials, remdesivir put them into kidney failure. Remdesivir failed in the Ebola trials. Remdesivir has failed in many drug trials. It's not a safe, safe drug. They'll give you oxygen. That's great.

They may give you some cytokine blockers. That's great. But the thing is, if you catch the virus and you treat immediately, there is no reason for our hospitals to be full. And other nations have done this. They've preventatively given out hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and supplements. other nations have stopped the virus. Other nations are done with a virus, and we know the risk groups. Okay, so we can...

But I still don't understand. You know this. You're saying this. Why isn't this happening? I mean, what is the short answer? Why is this not happening in America? Why are people dying because this isn't happening? Gaslighting and financial interests.

They're gaslighting the American people that there are no treatments for this. But why would they be gaslighting? Why do people gaslight on this issue? Why? Pride, ego, money, I don't know. It's disgusting. It's medically disgusting to see a profession fall like this. When so many doctors so successfully keep so many people out of the hospitals,

Dr. McCullough's protocols, Dr. Zalinko's protocols, the online medical telehealth services, the one group I've helped with a little bit, MyFreeDoctor.com, 99.98% survival rate in our cohort out of almost 80,000 patients treated. The one or two just got treatment late. The rest of the people that got treatment early lived. Okay. So let's just pretend you came on the program starting now. And I said, what do you tell somebody?

They come to you and they say, I have, I think I have COVID. What do I do? Now, they can't come to you because you're traveling, whatever. but if somebody comes to me, what should I tell them to do? Where can they go? Is there a website? Where can they go to get help? Okay.

Myfreedoctor.com, America's frontline doctors. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Myfree doctor. com. My free doctor. America's frontline doctors. Okay.

Let's see. I think it's Stella MD. com or speak with an MD. speak with an MD.com, frontline MDs.com. There's a bunch of them. If somebody goes to MyFreedoctor.com, what will they find? A list of doctors? What do they find at a place like that?

No, they'll find it. They will log in. They'll fill out a health history. They'll work through the nurse intake. And the moment your chart is ready, if you have a positive test, all that medical history, then they feed it to a doctor. the doctor reads your history, finds out what you need, finds a pharmacy in your area, sends in the medicines, and you test positive, and you treat. They also will send prophylaxis or medicines to

have on hand just in case you do get COVID. And so it's preparation before you even get COVID as well. Okay, myfreedoctor.com, America's frontline doctors.com. Those are two places. I want to go back. back to the vaccine. Everybody's being bullied into getting this vaccine. You want to eat in a fancy restaurant. Take this experimental vaccine. I am reading, I can't remember the website, but it said that officially 2,122 miscarriages have resulted. Miscarriages are deaths of human beings. Imagine being pregnant, the joy of that, having a miscarriage. 2,000. Now, do you think that that's statistically inconsequential, or does that sound to you like that's a serious side effect from the vaccine? It's fascinating if we look that just a week ago in the Journal of the American Medical Association,

there was an article that had concluded, oh, see, you know, the signals are that the shot is safe in pregnancy. They had to retract their conclusion last week, and they had to say, okay, our data is incomplete. And meanwhile, over months, we've been saying to pregnant women, not we, not me, but other people saying, get the shot. We don't have long-term data. A new biological agent, you never give to children and pregnant women. Never. And they didn't do the trials previously. There were some signals in early animal trials that implantation was decreased by 16%. There were studies in the Moderna trial, small signals saying, hmm, there seems to be a fertility problem here. So the signals were there, the medical profession saying it's safe. A vaccine takes five to ten.

10 years to prove that it's safe. And so we already have early signals that perhaps and indeed it might not be. And to push this on a population that's vulnerable to see an increase of miscarriages, which we are seeing, and suggest that it's safe, is not honest to the public. Okay, so a woman in her 20s, they're all being told you've got to get this. For example, you would say to them, do not get it clearly? or it doesn't matter. What is your view?

You know, I have to be careful. I just say your body, your choice, make an informed decision based on risk of benefit. No, I'm asking your opinion. My opinion is, no, I wouldn't because if the pregnant woman got COVID, she can take hydroxychloroquine. And there's monoclonal antibodies available as well. And these monoclonals are very effective at decreasing hospitalization and death. So we have early treatments. If you test and treat, test and treat, this pandemic is over tomorrow or four to six weeks.

it's over. If we had the political will and the national will to say the moment someone's positive, we're going to treat them and not send them home until their lips turn blue. Whether you're pregnant, whether you're a kid, whether you're a 90-year-old. If you test and treat and you treat early, you save lives, period. We have a final segment coming up with Dr. Ryan Cole. Folks, don't go away. Folks, we're talking with Dr. Ryan Cole. Dr. Cole, have to ask you, I keep reading about side effects, potential side effects from these vaccines. Sounds scary to me. What are some of the potential side effects?

Because people don't talk about this, and I think if somebody takes a vaccine and they get the side effect down the line, where do they go? Who do you complain to that you took this seemingly unnecessary vaccine and now you've got real problems? What are some of the side effects you think are coming out of it? Oh, my goodness. I've seen so many. clotting is one of the main issues. In the younger individuals, inflammation of the heart, in younger individuals,

plenty of strokes, seizures, neurologic disease, Guillain-Barray syndrome, fibromyalgia, autoimmune conditions. Fibromyalgia and strokes? Yeah, just body aches and pains that, oh, yes. From this vaccine. Well, we've had over 15,000 deaths from these shots in the history of all vaccines combined, on average in an average year, from all vaccines,

we see about 200 deaths a year. 200. From this vaccine, 200 years. From these three vaccines in the U.S., we've seen over 15,000 deaths in nine months. That's more than all vaccines combined. How is it possible that that's not been reported? Where do you get that information? Because that is a headline.

That is, man lands on the moon typeface headline. 15,000 deaths from the vaccine. Yeah, and that's probably a grave underestimate based on how few reports go into the VA VA-VERS system, V-A-R-E-R-S, sorry, VARs, V-A-E-R-S, sorry, V-A-E-R-S, vaccine adverse events reporting system. If you go to OpenV-A-E-R-S.com, you will see the statistics. You know, over 750,000 adverse reactions, 10s,000. of thousands of hospitalizations, urgent care visits, office visits, etc., 20,000 permanent disabilities, 15,000 deaths reported, and those are an underreport. And these are corroborated by the same

statistical patterns in Europe from their Eurovigilance system as well. So the fact that this isn't a headline, these are red flag reporting systems. People criticize and say, oh, that's not an adequate system. It's the system we have. We've always used it as a red flag for any. medical device, drug, vaccine, etc. That's new on the market. And we're supposed to use this and say, huh, there's a signal. Well, based on the death signals,

in a normal approved shot or medicine, after, you know, 2550 deaths, that would be off the market period. So back in January, February, when we already saw the percentage of people with a shot and the percentage of deaths, in any other normal scenario, these would have been pulled off the market

immediately due to the safety signals. And why we haven't, done that is inexplicable. All right. So the idea is that I could get the shot and die. And you're saying that the statistics are unlike anything we've ever seen. And you're also saying that if I get the shot, there's almost no upside to getting the shot. So why would I take a wild risk of getting any of these side effects, including, oh, yeah, death, which is a pretty serious side effect, if the vaccine is not giving me any significant upside?

I mean, this is a basic question. Everyone in America is wondering why is there this controversy, and when you lay this out, it doesn't seem very controversial. The only controversy is the fact that somebody is not giving us information. Honestly, I think you're very gracious about the folks in the medical establishment being so strange about this. This is, it seems to me, the most basic abdication of their duties as physicians. it's so basic that I'm frankly horrified, frightened for the country that we have come to this place. We're out of time. Dr. Ryan Cole, thank you, folks. Go to myfreedoctor.com. Go to America's frontline doctors. And we'll be back again next week, I hope, with Dr. Ryan Cole. Such a blessing. Thank you.

Thank you, Erica. Pleasure.