The Eric Metaxas Show - Ryan Helfenbein (Encore)

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Ryan Helfenbein of the Standing for Freedom Center covers current events, including the recent Pro-Life March and Abby Johnson; plus, what does it mean to "be a real man"? (Encore Presentation)

Eric McTexis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. You often hear me talk about how higher education in America is going to heck in a handbasket at the speed of light. And by heck, of course, I mean hell. So whenever there's any encouragement along those lines, perhaps, I don't know, there's a college or university where that is not happening. I want to let you know. And so some of you already know that I have an affiliation. I'm part of the Standing for Freedom Center out of Liberty University.

And I get very excited when I talk to the folks who are there, particularly when I talk to my guest right now. His name is Ryan Helfenbein. He's the executive director of the Standing for Freedom Center. The Freedom Center. Ryan Helfenbine, welcome. Hey, Eric, it's good to be with you as always. I really appreciate that introduction because in many ways as you look across this great nation of ours,

you're seeing the fallout across academia of this, what, 20, 30, 40 year project of deconstruction, a long march through the institutions. Yeah. It's coming everywhere. Lots of Christian universities, so-called formerly Christian, have gone the way of the dodo. Well, I think, but even worse is that they, many of them still call themselves. Christian. Look, we've seen this all before. Let's be honest, okay? If you said in 1930, hey, I'm a Methodist, that might mean something. It probably did in 1930. But as the years

pass, a lot of those churches just went wobbly and just became part of the culture and then really became the enemies of what they had formerly been. You see this in the Ivy League, Yale and Harvard and Princeton and all the Ivy League schools had been started as places meant to raise up Christian leaders. And of course, as the decades passed, as the centuries passed, they went wobbly. But we're seeing it now with Christian colleges. I'm not going to mention them, but I mean, I can mention a few. But the point is that parents who send their kids to most of these schools don't have any idea that when your kid gets to, I don't know what it is,

Wheaton or Calvin or whatever, they may well be exposed, not just through other students, but through faculty, to ideas that you would be surprised and you'd be thinking, well, gosh, I really thought I sent my kid there because I wanted to keep them away from these bad ideas.

So I'm not aware of details with regard to the schools I just mentioned, but I talk to people, and it is shocking. So whenever I'm speaking to somebody from, whether it's Hillsdale or Grove City or Liberty, I want people to know you're in that fight. It's an amazing thing that so few are fighting the way you all are. But it's just important for people to understand

that there's a battle right now. They may not be aware of it. Yeah. I fully agree. And what you're seeing right now, whether the older generation has fully recognized it. I mean, we saw pockets of it in the Commonwealth of Virginia up in Loudoun County. We saw pockets of it across the country when parents were at the school board meetings raising cane about CRT. We're seeing deconstruction everywhere, right? And it takes eternal vigilance to ensure that, a mission of a university of a seminary of a denomination is upheld that the confessional identity. You mentioned the United Methodist Church, you know, Yale, Harvard. I remember William F. Buckley's book, God's Man at Yale, written back in the 1950s. This struggle has been around for quite some time.

Well, some of these schools, I want to be clear. That's a great point. Buckley wrote that book in 1950. It came out in 50 or 51. So he's writing about the Yale of the late 40s. Yale had already gone to hell in the 40s. Ladies and gentlemen, do you understand? In the 40s, he documents in that book, which is now 70 years old, that Yale had a faculty comprised of many, many pro-communist leftist professors, dramatically so.

Many socialist, atheist, atheist professors. It's a dramatic thing. you think you're sending your kids to an institution that represents roughly what you believe in, and that's not the case. Yale and some others began this very early. And when I got there in the 80s, it was already Marxist race theory was already being taught when I was there. Critical race theory was all of this stuff was already there. But it is filtered down even into good institutions that would call themselves evangelical Christian, which is again why I'm proud to stand with the Standing for Freedom Center at Liberty, because this is a real battle.

It is. It absolutely is. And so our motto, our mission statement, we stand to defend life, liberty, and truth to ensure the foundations of freedom exist for the next generation. So we, and that starts with a womb, right? And it starts with biblical truth. It starts with an understanding of biblical justice, while the world. raves about social justice and inequality and all of those things, we have to stand on biblical truth that does not change, Eric.

We should, I should have mentioned up front that the reason we reconnected very recently, and I said, I've got to get you back on the show as soon as possible, is that we were both at the March for Life in D.C. What an amazing thing every year to see many, many, many, many, thousands, scores of thousands, hundreds of thousands, really, mostly young people. Now, Liberty University, how many kids from Liberty were there? So close to 600 came to the March for Life. And by the way, that's a historically high number for Liberty University. A thousand came to the Dobbs case, that the opening oral arguments on December 1st for a prayer visual. So we're right smack in the center of what's going on in the pro-life movement across the nation.

And I've never been more proud of the students of Liberty University than seeing them march out in the cold and sub-20-degree temperatures, right? Oh, it was bitterly, bitterly, bitterly cold. But it happens every year, and it's sort of appropriate in a way because you realize, like, this is a battle. We're in a battle. Anybody can show up, you know, half-drunk, at Woodstock in the middle of the summer

to show up for something like this this is a real commitment and I want to say that it means a lot to me to see a school like Liberty taking so many young people they're making them understand

this is who we are this is the civil rights battle of our time this is really it's just a beautiful thing and Ryan we've got to say it's almost inconceivable to me I mean the older you are the more it seems inconceivable because you've lived with this since 1973. Since I was a kid, the Supreme Court has stood on this preposterous, rickety, legal, it's like a Rube Goldberg device.

I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Occam's Razor, you know, it just doesn't make any sense. It's this Baroque mess that they say is law. And we finally now have originalists on the court who seem poised to overreact. overturn it. Yeah, that's exactly right. When you think about the hypocrisy, the irony of this moment, those that want to stanchly defend, and they're on the wrong side of history, Eric, I got to mention, but stanchly defend a very arcane law that is so inhumane. You look at the science of life and the beginning of life, even at 15 weeks is what, you know, the Dobbs case is trying to move the

needle on that. But 15 weeks, a child's heartbeat in the womb has beat 16 million times, 16 million times. And we're trying to make it illegal at that point. And we're praying for that. And I hope that happens. But you're looking at everything currently in terms of ethics, in terms of science, morality, all of those things. And it has changed. We know so much more today than what we know. knew in 1972, 73, January 22nd, and 1973 was when that fateful ruling went down. And it was a rickety, wooden old system that, by the way, an all-male judiciary determined and not according to science. It's an old trimester system.

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Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to my friend Ryan Helfenbein. What kind of a name is Helfenbine? Sounds German. Ryan Helfenbine. Ryan, you are the executive director of the Standing for Freedom Center at Liberty University. We were just talking about the issue of life and science. And there's tremendous irony. In my book is atheism dead. I keep talking about how science, the more we know from science, the more it points unequivocally at this point to the existence of God. It's a shocking thing. Nobody really saw it coming. They thought science was at odds with faith or whatever. You see the same thing with the abortion issue. The more we know about the human body, the more we know about what is inside a pregnant woman, the more it becomes impossible for

anybody paying attention to say it's not a life it's a you know it's just a blob it's a tumor um it's kind of crazy to me at in this day and age all you can really do is look away and that's kind of the challenge right is for people who know this is a human being to try to get people who don't know that just to look over just to look over here see what we see tell me what you think because if you don't see a human being with little arms and legs and a heartbeat, what do you think that is? I think that's the challenge. Absolutely. I think about Goebbels back in World War II was kind of the Nazi propaganda officer.

And the whole idea was to create an ignorant population that didn't understand the full ramifications of what was happening under Nazi policy. And if the majority of the German people fully understood what was happening during the Holocaust, there could have been an insurrection and uprising. And so today, when you see what's taking place, oftentimes it's behind a sterile curtain, right, in a clinic. People don't understand the carnage that is happening there. Women don't understand what's happening in their own, inside their own bodies, that there is a fully developed, independent in many ways. at a certain point of viability could be completely autonomous. We're learning that through the advancement of health care and the health care sciences. Actually, the classic case.

I mean, it's almost funny. You and I were at a dinner the night before the March for Life. And Tim Tebow was the featured speaker, but the honoree was Abby Johnson. Abby Johnson, I mean, she's been on this program a few times, but hers is the classic story, right? she was an award-winning planned parenthood. I don't know what her title was. She was executive director of Planned Parenthood or whatever, right? Right, the Cecil Richards Award.

She sat next to Hillary Clinton and received the highest honor that Planned Parenthood can bestow on anybody in the nation. Okay. So this woman, the reason she's the classic story, is that here you have somebody died in the wool pro-abortion, and at some point in her career, this is about 10 or 12 years ago, she was called in to assist a doctor who was performing an abortion.

Now, this is not her job. She's executive director. She's not supposed to be in there. But they were short-staffed, and she came in. And with the ultrasound, because you can see what is going on, she saw the abortion happen with her own eyes. Now, she'd been pushing this. She'd been behind this.

She'd been facilitating this. Her whole adult life, winning awards. And when she was in the room and she saw the reality, It completely changed her life. It made her understand there is no way that I can be a party to this. And I'm going to spend the rest of my life actually working against this to save people like me who they're sucked in. They need to know what's going on. So she was there at that dinner getting a different kind of award.

But I thought, you know, we need to have compassion on people on the other side. many of them like Abby were genuinely are genuinely ignorant of what's going on and it's our job to help them see the reality because most of them have no idea of the horror and when Abby saw it with her own eyes it changed her life but what an amazing story that she that she was able that she had the guts to be honest and say I can't do this I can't be a part of this anymore I love the the lines from Amazing Grace, the classic him, I was once lost but now I found,

was once blind, but now I see. And you think about the slave trade at one point, that was the big thing. That was the big civil rights issue of that time. And you think about William Wolverford's, who you wrote about and has inspired so many lives

to change laws within the nation of England, right, to put an end to it, to the carnage of slavery in the international slave trade. Anyway, the point is, is the people are the prize, Eric, as you so eloquently put with the life of Abby Johnson. People like, there are thousands, millions of Abby Johnsons who are out there right now that need to be won. And she would be the first to tell you it was Jesus Christ that changed her views on abortion. It wasn't just the science itself. It was a miraculous conversion. It was coming to faith in Christ. And

Then she saw it through a different lens at that moment. I, you know, I remember because you bring up Amazing Grace, I mean, some people know that I wrote a biography of William Wolverford Force, the man who led the battle for the abolition of the slave trade. My book's titled Amazing Grace. But the film, Amazing Grace, which tells the same story, it doesn't get into it as much because it's a film. But in that film, there's a scene.

Now, of course, it's a made-up scene because it's a drama, and they're trying to explain something. But that scene reminds me of what happened to Abby Johnson. Wilberforce is trying to convince these people of the evil of the slave trade. And these people, wealthy people, most of them have no idea. So it's very easy to say I'm for something or against something. If you have no idea, you just go with the crowd. And what does the crowd say?

Everybody in the crowds that I used to hang out in at Yale University in New York City, everybody knows abortion is a great thing what are you even talking about we don't even hang around with people who have other view right so will be for us takes them in a boat this is in the movie to a slave ship which was docked there i can't remember where it was maybe it was london but the stench from that ship was so horrific they began to understand i am party to this and when we refer to of the stench. What went on in those slapships, you don't even want to talk about it on the radio. These are people lying in their own feces. These are people, this is something out of hell. And this was what the British taxpayers, the British citizens, not only were they allowing

this evil to happen, but their economy was thriving because of this. A lot of money was being made. So Wilberforce says, I need to get them to see, in this case, to smell what they are party to. And I've always believed, Ryan, that that is our challenge. Even in my book Amazing Grace, I reproduce, there was a poster that Wilberforce and the others used to show how the people in the slave ships are crammed together. It's so inhuman and so horrifying that if you see a picture, if you glance at that part, poster, it changes your view. I really believe that is the challenge with us today to understand that there are people on the other side. Many of them are really good people. They have no clue what's involved. If we could get them to see, to hear, to understand the reality of this. And I think

it's important for us to be gracious about how we do it, at least usually. But I really believe that this is a winnable battle because you know and I know. that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, part of me will say big deal. That just puts it back to the states. And there are tons of states like the one where I am right now where there's going to be just as much abortion, maybe more, because people will be coming over state lines. So we need to win the hearts and minds of people. The law is vital, but the law is just the law. That's right.

It's a larger spiritual, cultural battle when Roe v. Wade is overturned, and I believe that it will. And I'm praying to that end. the reality is is that there is a polarization that is already in existence in America. There is a great divide culturally, spiritually, politically. You will see

sanctuary states, sanctuary cities for abortion. And honestly, you'll see a proliferation in some cases. Like, what's the most obscene bill that we can pass in say the bluest state? They're going to attempt to do that.

So it's not, it's not over. It's just begun. And we've got to stand up. We've got to speak up. We've got to get out there. And we've got to reach the younger generation. And let me add one other thing, Eric, it's going to take men. It's not just the women. It's the men. So I go to this March for Life. You've seen it. And the composition, you see a lot of women, conservative women. And they are out there like lions. I mean, really. I mean, they're amazing women who are courageous, right? But where are all the men? men. That's what we need to get back in this country is not toxic masculinity, but biblical, courageous masculinity. And people say, no, I want to protect the womb. I want to protect these women. I want to put my neck on the line. That's what we need. When we come back, I want to talk about that issue of men's role with regard to the life issue. I'm talking to Ryan Helfenbine. He's the executive director of the Standing for Freedom Center at Liberty University, standing for freedom center. We'll be right back talking to Ryan Helfin.

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with the Standing for Freedom Center at Liberty University. Ryan, I just want to touch on what you just said about men's role on the issue of life and abortion. And here's the key, and we know this. There's truth on both sides, okay? There are women who have been really, really, really, really hurt by men. Men who have used them sexually. And then when the normal thing happens and life comes into the picture, because that's what God's plan is, the men say oh oh i wasn't really interested in that i just wanted to use you i won't say that but

i'm just going to say yeah if you have this kid i'm out of here the men this is the hidden story often bully women into getting abortions you never hear that that is a fact i know because my wife has worked in this business uh at a pregnancy center here in new york city you hear this over and over that the guy is the one. So the lie that the woman is empowered and she has freedom, whatever. If she really had choice, she would want to have that kid and probably marry the bum that is using her. But this is where we are.

Men need to step up. Men need to say, I will never sleep with a woman unless I'm married to her, unless I have made it clear to the whole world and to God. I value her as a person. I want to be with her for the rest of my life. I love her. That is what normal people are looking for in life. But we live in a broken world,

and we need to call out the men who don't understand that if you want to have sex, God created it for marriage, for family. Once you mess that up, but I put my finger pointing at the men of whom I was won many years ago, that's really the issue. We always talk about the women, the women, the women. but what about the guy?

It takes two to tango. Where was he in this? Yeah, absolutely. And I think across the board in the United States, there's many fronts on which fathers have not stood up to their responsibility. They've not stood in the way to be protectors when women are vulnerable and at the moment of greatest crisis and the greatest need. And it's also been, frankly, through policies that the government has enacted, the government

has incentivized, you know, single motherhood, single parents. You know, a lot of these fathers are even in prison, quite honestly, and rotting away, and then never will have the ability to see their children. So they've been deprived of the responsibility of fatherhood as well as the gift of fatherhood, both, and have made place the sole authority of decision-making in the mother's hands. And so we're, seeing, I think the, I think, you know, having four or five decades of this play out, we're seeing that the roosters come home to roost, right? And so. No, no, it's the chickens. The chickens are coming home to roost. Well, that's right.

I guess roosters too, some some brave roosters. But look, what you're talking about, though, we now have. So when people talk about, like, toxic masculinity, right? This is what they're talking about. They're talking about a man who basically, says, I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to be selfish. In a way that encourages a woman to be selfish, the whole system breaks down. But men are appointed by God to be the leaders and to say, I want to be with you for the rest of my life. I want to honor you. I want to marry you. When that doesn't happen, when you've already accepted a broken, sexualized culture, this is the mess you get. So to some extent, a pro-abortion,

They do have a point. It's just that they take it in the wrong direction. Well, and according to the woke deconstructionist today, everything that you and I are talking about makes us misogynistic, right? According to that framework, that men would bear any kind of responsibility, have any onerous on them, right, for the care and the well-being of the mother and the child. And so throughout, I mean, I'm seeing this all the time, Eric, when I go into a Barnes & Noble, when I go on Amazon.com, there is a breakdown, right, of what it is to be male or man in society in the same way of what it means to be female, right, in society, what it means to be a woman. So this whole kind of wokeness narrative is tearing down this whole idea of patriarchy. Patriarchy is evil unless, by the way, it's Joe Biden in the government, and then it's good.

But if we have any responsibility to one another, that's seen as wicked, it's evil, it's misogynistic, patriarchal. You reminded me when we were with Abby Johnson a few days ago. Abby Johnson came up to me and said that she had just watched. I did a Socrates in the city event probably about seven years ago with one of the greatest women who's ever lived, Alice von Hildebrandt. And she was in her 90s when I interviewed her. She just passed away last week. But Abby Johnson was raving and raving and raving and raving about that interview. And I want to encourage people, go to SocratesandesantheCity.com, watch that interview that I did with her seven years ago.

Why? Because that woman understood what it means to be a woman. It's one of the most beautiful. She's brilliant. She's a brilliant philosopher. But she talks about that. And then she challenges me to have somebody on to talk about, you know, God's idea of a man. I never really did that.

but I wrote a book called Seven Men, and I wrote a book called Seven Women. And in the introduction to my book, Seven Men, I talk about this issue. What is a real man? What is God's idea of a man? But Alice von Hildebrand's, she wrote a book about it, and I interview her at Socrates in the City. But Abby Johnson really went on and on and reminded me that if you want the download on what is it really me to be a woman, it's so beautiful. Go to Socrates and City.com. Watch my interview with Alice von Hilderbren.

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and or you can call 800, 978-3057, 800-978-3057. Use the code, Eric. Darker shame, darling, darker shame. Folks, I'm talking to Ryan, Health and Bind, with a standing for Freedom Center at Liberty University. Ryan, I just got to, I want to say it again. I want people to go to Socrates and the city.com and watch my interview with Alice Funhildebrand.

Abby Johnson said she thought it was the best interview she has ever seen. When you understand who Alice Van Hildebrand is, You'll get why she says that. But Alice von Hildebrand is somebody who, she's very funny also. Like this is this 90-something-year-old woman. She's brilliant. She's funny. So, but you were going to respond to that.

Well, you know, I want to juxtapose that. I mean, we need models. Women need models. They need heroes. I think of Alice. I, you know, I think I've mentioned to you before in conversation, Elizabeth Elliott. There's women that are like that that need to be held up to this younger generation and say, this is a real woman, okay?

This woman fears the Lord, right? This woman understands what is right in this world and what her calling is as a wife, as a mother, as a woman of God, right, a woman of faith and of character. And you juxtapose that with the new reality that we're beset with. And again, we kind of open talking about wokeism and deconstruction, you know, toxic masculinity, right? the whole idea that nationalism or what they call white evangelical nationalism is evil. There's a book out there. I don't know.

You're named it. I don't know if you're aware of this called Jesus and John Wayne. Right on. I'm coming after these people. I'm suing these people. No, I'm not. But I mean, honestly, like, when people have no arguments, they start throwing around labels, like white nationalist, Christian nationalists.

You don't even know what you're saying. Like, it's so preposterous that I find it, I, I, I can't help but find it funny. Well, let me take you back. If you're going to recall in the summer of 2020, the biggest mistake that the, and this, I'm talking about the organization called Black Lives Matter Incorporated. Yeah.

The biggest mistake they ever made was they named, they named men and the nuclear family as the biggest enemy, right, of their whole project. They named capitalism. They named nationalism. They knew all these other things, but they literally were attacking, and you imagine, this includes black fathers, right? So Black Lives Matter made that mistake. Right now you're seeing within sort of this woke movement and narrative this attack on evangelicalism and this attack on masculinity.

Like those two things are the biggest problem. And in the end game, if anybody's paying attention to any of this, what is the one thing you need, Eric, to have? a cultural revolution that is socialistic, that is inherently Marxist and anti-God. What do you need? You have to kill religion. You have to kill religion and you have to kill families. The most cohesive structures of any society, the atoms of society, are the family and the church. If I can basically tear those things apart, then I can have a cultural revolution. I can do what Mao Zedong did in China. I can get rid of the four olds. And so, this Jesus and John Wayne, which by the way, I think it's at Calvin College, the professor that

writes this, I don't want to give any more attention to it. Well, Calvin is pretty woke, dude. I mean, it really breaks my heart that some of these schools have just like they gone wobbly and they slid off the table. I don't know why parents send their kids there anymore, but yeah. It's crazy. But they identify you. They identify Franklin Graham. They invite the founder of this school, Dr. Falwell, and many others. You guys are the real problem. problem, right? And when that happens... It's all very obvious that I'm a woman

hater. I'm a woman hater. Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Well, think how crazy this is because you have... I know how many black men do I know and how many women do I know who are more hyped up about this stuff than

I ever could be. Alice von Hildebrand is one of them. There are a number of women that they say feminism and any kind of this Marxist stuff is the enemy of femininity and of women. And they say, and I think we talk about this in the interview that I did with Alice von Hildebrand,

that basically the project of feminism is trying to turn women into men. And now it's like they're taking all the toxicity of fallen, broken men, and saying that power, that, whatever, we want that. And you think, wow, now you have two wrongs that don't make a right.

you have actual toxic masculinity combined with toxic broken femininity, which is no longer femininity. And we have to say this also, that BLM, I mean, they are Marxist. And when you are Marxist, and a lot of feminism comes out of Marxist views, Marxism is openly atheist, openly anti-family. So if you care about black Americans and you say, our enemy is the father, you've just destroyed every black woman, every black child. If you care about them, you want them to have a strong, loving, self-sacrificing father. And, you know, it's a pity we have to kind of like break this down and teach people. But people need to understand what we're up against. That's right. And so by the way, for every one good book that's out there that we hold up as an example, like 20 imprints of this

trash is coming out. And so it's, it's, it's, there's this proliferation, right, of this woke kind of garbage that's going out everywhere. And you see it in Barnes & Noble, like I say, and on Amazon.com. That's why more people need to pick up and read you, Eric, and, and some others. Yeah. It's, but it's funny though, because this stuff, they really have no point. It's all emotion. I mean, listen, if somebody comes to me and they say, I have pain, I've been wounded in this way and this way. I would be the first one, like John Rankin, I dedicate my his atheism dead book to John Rankin. He was always saying that when he is around lesbian women, feminist women, they have a wound that was in many cases because of a man not behaving like God's idea of a man, but behaving in a genuinely toxic, masculine way. And so we, who know that's not God's plan, need to call out the actual toxic masculinity and say, real masculinity is the opposite of that.

Real masculinity lays down its life for the women and the children. And that's what real, that's God's idea of masculinity. So we need to redeem that idea. And in the intro to my book Seven Men, I talk about that because this is the fundamental misunderstanding of our time. That's right. And I would just encourage anybody listening that statistically speaking, that scenario would describe a woman who has been hurt by a man, a woman who has pondered or even had an abortion as a way out. Statistically speaking, one in three, anywhere from one in four to one in three of those women are actually sitting in the pew at a church today. Right.

So they're actually in the church. They're not far off. And so I'd encourage men in the church step up. Pastors especially, you have to step up. You have to step up. Yeah. Be an example. And let me just put it this way.

Hey, be a man. We'll be right back. Be a man. When you get the blues. A little shoe shine, boy, he never gets slow down, but he's got the dirtiest job in town. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Ryan Helfenbine. He's with the Standing for Freedom Center at Liberty University.

Ryan, I find it funny. You said that this person in that book calls out Franklin Graham or me or whatever. And I thought, here's the irony. One of the greatest women I know is Franklin Graham's daughter, Sissy Graham Lynch. She was at the March for Life, right? Yes. So she is strong. She's vocal.

She's wonderful. I can say the same thing about my daughter. What irony that these people that are being called out as like white, toxic, evangelical, whatever, are raising really amazing, strong, wonderful, courageous women. and how ironic that is, right? Because according to folks who write books like this, we're living lives out of like the handmaids tale. You know, like women can't even,

they're wearing their bonnets in the kitchen. What nonsense. I mean, folks, if you open your eyes, just look at the reality, you realize that that can't be right. It doesn't make sense. That's right. Yeah, they're not living the lie

of the grievance-bearing gospel. Like, let me, you know, this is the fest of us for the rest of us. So it begins by the airing of our grievances, right? That these are folks who are constantly wounded. No, no. These are healthy, well-adjusted women who have grown up in loving homes, right? Who love the Lord.

That's why they display that kind of love for one another. And they understand that. And then they're woke, they're raised, rather, without any conscience issues or self-image issues. They know that they're loved and they're loved by Christ. And so I think that's a great example, is Franklin Graham. I mean, it's actually hilarious. And in my seven women book, I talk about how the seven women that I've chosen in that book, I chose specifically because they didn't do stuff that men did, except their women.

No, they did stuff that's distinctly feminine, that what makes them great, their strength is a particular kind of feminine strength. I mean, look, we also understand that part of the big war we're in right now, the madness. has to do with, want to break down God's idea that God says, I created you in my image, male and female. God has a view of male and female that is different, right? We're not supposed to be the same. We're not interchangeable.

And yet, we're both made in his image. And people who are trying to break down the very idea of male and female are at war with what God says. God is trying to bless us. He does this for a reason. but they're people that they've completely misunderstood it. And so they're trying to even break down the idea of what is a man and what is a woman. And we have big muscular dudes like jumping in the pool with young women crushing it, winning medals.

And people like, well, yeah, that's just a new reality. That's because they're pro-woman, Eric. There's no other way to see it, right? I'm going to tell you, the feminists should raise hell over this. I can't get, I can't believe they are allowing these muscular. dudes to get away. This is the ultimate gaslighting. It is amazing. I mean, women should be up in arms over this. I would join them. It's just, it is an outrage, but that's what happens when you're very confused. That's right. And it goes worse than that. It goes deeper than that. I think of men

incarcerated with women in prisons, no way to protect these women. I think of men going into girls' locker rooms, right? So this is not about to happen. It's happening right now. And we got to end the insanity, Eric, in order to protect women. Wow. Well, we're basically out of time, but I just love seeing you and talking to you, Ryan Helfenbine, Standing for Free. Where can, if people want to find Standing for Freedom Center, where do they go? Well, go to Twitter, go to Facebook, but on the website, it's standingforfreedom.com, standing for freedom.com. Find us there. We've got articles by you there, by the way. And so in some videos as well. I know.

What is Liberty is a great video. Check it out. That's one of the greatest things. If people want to know what's in my book, which is titled, if you can keep it, that video, you guys made the most amazing video. Standing for Freedom.com. Ryan Helf and Bind, God bless you. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you, Eric.