The Eric Metaxas Show - Sarah Huckabee Sanders

Episode Date: October 7, 2020

Sarah Huckabee Sanders talks about her time on the front lines of conversing with the press with stories from "Speaking for Myself: Faith, Freedom, and the Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House."

Hi, welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. I just found out I'm supposed to be someplace else right now. So my sincere apologies, but I simply won't be able to introduce today's host, Mr. Eric Mataxis. Hey, the folks. Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. I, in a moment, am speaking to none other than Sarah Huckabee Sanders for the rest of the hour. I cannot wait for that. In hour two, I speak to Anne Graham Lott.

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Never heard of it. Yes, yes. But no, no, no. She's actually the daughter of Billy Graham. She's so lovely. So today we've got Sarah Huckabee Sanders in a couple seconds. And Anne Graham Lott. We're going to do a little ask metaxus.

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Before we go to our guest, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, we want to tell you that people write to us. They ask me questions and I'm going to try to answer as many of them in a lightning round now as I can answer. And the first one is, Eric, do you have any insight into the family on Netflix? That's a program on Netflix, The Family. He says, my father was connected to the Cedars. That's connected to the family for a long time. Do you have any insights? Yeah, I got some insights.

The family on Netflix is the hit job of all time. I know the people who were behind the Cedars and this wonderful organization that they sometimes call the family. I joked at the National Prayer Breakfast in 2012. I joked about the family because the people who invited me to speak were the people from the Cedars, from this wonderful organization. They really call it the fellowship. So the idea that Netflix is doing this despicable hit. job you need to know and everyone needs to know. It's based on a book by a guy whom I debated on

this subject about eight years ago. He was genuinely not nice. When I, you know, do a debate or a conversation like that with somebody I try to be really civil. He's angry. He hates the fellowship and he wrote a nasty book. It is, to say it's filled with lies. I mean, it's just, it's madness. and the fact that Netflix would do a hit job on this great organization, it figures, I'm sorry to say, but I just want to tell you that it's awful. Avoid it if you can. That's number one. Number two, Eric, I'm confused on the position held by Charlie Kirk on gay marriage. She seems to be okay with it. Candice Owens appears to embrace the same. What say you? Okay, this is really complicated because the reason this idea got out there is because there are people, I guess they're acolytes of E. Michael Jones, with whom I've had some dealings in the past,

who are trying to trap folks like Charlie Kirk, who's a friend and Candace Owens, who's a friend. What do I mean? What I mean is that folks like Charlie and Candace are trying to broaden the conservative movement. This does not mean they don't have certain Christian views on sexuality, but when they're trying to embrace a, people who think differently from them. It goes without saying that people can feel differently from them on any number of issues, and they say, we want you as part of our movement. So I don't think that should be interpreted that Charlie Kirk or Candace Owens are pro

same-sex marriage or that they don't take seriously the Christian view of sexuality. So I think that's kind of what we call a red herring. So I'm going to just going to leave that alone. Somebody writes, I've started listening to you and have been very encouraged by your honesty and truth, especially with regard to your Christian faith. I found it difficult, however, to reconcile John MacArthur, who's a pastor we had on this program, with Bethel Church in Reading, Connecticut.

But I've watched you defend both of them. How do you put these two together? Well, here's how I put them together. I think that the Christian faith includes, people who sometimes differ on some issues, kind of like the conservative movement. And I love John MacArthur, but I also love the folks at Bethel Church. Now, I may have issues with both of them on some things, but I don't think those issues rise to the level of my not having them on the program or speaking at their events if they invite me. Now, some people would

say, well, I think, I think, you know, Bethel or Reading, it's a cult and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm you're wrong. I mean, there may be things that, uh, that, uh, that I, that I've disagreed with him on, but I, I think that, um, I'm, has done that. He's also called out, you know, the sort of the revival, the charismatic revival and a lot of these movements as counterfeit revival and as satanic and stuff. I disagree with John MacArthur on that, but I love John MacArthur and I love so much that he's done. So I don't think you're going to be able to agree with everyone on everything. And I think that there's some people who love debates. They love fighting. I'm not one of those people, folks. I don't want to be arguing with John MacArthur about the things that I disagree with him about or arguing with the folks

at Bethel necessarily. I'll do that. privately, but publicly, I think that, you know, those of us who love God, who take the Bible seriously, I think that we should try to be a little bit more respectful of each other. We should be respectful of our enemies outside the church and inside the church as well. And sometimes people inside the church are not very respectful of their enemies inside the church. And I think that's wrong. We're out of time when we come back, the great Sarah Huckabee Sanders in our two, Anne Graham Lotz. Don't go away.

It's knowing that your door is always open and your path is free to walk. Folks, welcome to the Irkman Taxes Show. Yes, as my guest, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Evidently, she got married, grew up, got married, had a family. Sarah Huckabee, Sanders. Welcome to this program. Thank you so much. Great to be with you.

Whenever I talk to you, it's the same with your dad. I kind of can't stop joking. That's my love language. I want to congratulate you on writing a book. I have written them. They're not easy to do. But your book is loaded with so much stuff. I hardly know where to begin.

First of all, let's start at the beginning. You made so many Americans proud to watch you as press secretary for this president. And I know that you talk about that a lot in the book. And you were able to. to sort of manage the hostile questions of the mainstream media. I just want to ask you, because when we watch you doing that, we know that's not easy to do. What is it, what do you think prepared you to be able to do that?

Because as a press secretary, I mean, a lot of press secretaries in the past, they weren't so good at that. Well, you know, I think one of the things and people think I'm kidding, but I actually am half joking, half serious, but I think you'll appreciate it being a parent. actually helped make me a much better press secretary. My kids are very young, so I needed a lot of patients. When I first came into the White House, my youngest was only a year and a half. They're now eight, seven, and five. But my kids were very young, so I needed a lot of patience. I had to say

no a lot, and I had to repeat myself constantly at home. And so it was perfect preparation for going into the White House and dealing with the press court, except sometimes I think my kids actually were better behaved, which is really saying something than the press score. Yeah. Well, I think, I don't think with today's press court saying a darn thing about your kids, but you really, you did it really, really well. But I think what's fun for me, Sarah, when I talk to you or anybody who's been around this president, who knows this president, is that you know that he has an incredibly fun side.

And to me, we can start with. with the funniest thing, as far as I'm concerned, in your book, is that when you went to North Korea, I'm already, I can't even, he was joking around. The president was joking around that Kim Jong-un kind of was making eyes at you and that, you know, you might need to take, take one for the team, as he so graciously put it. I believe that's a scripture verse. So, I mean, tell us about that side of this president, because that's what you're, there's a lot of that in your book. You know, the president's one of the most fun people I've ever been around. And you catch

glimpses of it when he's on stage and doing rallies. But he is a larger than life, laugh out loud, sense of humor. And I loved being around him. I wanted people to see that. So I tried to incorporate some of that into the book. Certainly, I think the North Korea story, you know, of course the press and the media tried to make it into some kind of negative and a terrible thing. I was like, come on, guys, it was a joke. I laughed, he laughed. If you had been there, you would have laughed too. But, you know, he just has this way of kind of like poking and having fun. And I really wanted that to be reflected in the pages of the book. And I think the North Korea story illustrates that exactly. I never once thought he was actually going to send me to North Korea. and you did love to, you know, tell me every once in all.

Sarah, your family's going to miss you, but your country will be so proud. You'll be a hero. You're going to love North Korea. That is funny. That is a wicked sense of humor. I have been accused of having a wicked sense of humor. I know your dad does. And I just, I think, to me, there's nothing more wonderful than people in serious positions,

being able to enjoy things and laugh and crack jokes. And that story to me just it just takes the cake. I just have to ask you, though, I mean, being in North Korea, for example, I mean, as press secretary, you're in a place that there's no question that that was historic. I mean, I don't think it gets too much more historic than that. The president of a free nation is meeting with one of the most really totalitarian wicked dictatorships, anti-Christians. specifically dictatorships in the world. And for the president to be able to kind of pull that off, for you to be able to be there while that was going on. Tell us a little bit about that. Because most people think Trump's just crazy to even think about meeting with somebody like that.

What's your perspective? Well, like you said, it was absolutely historic. I mean, it was never lost on anyone that this was an uphill battle. But it was certainly worth doing. And I'm proud of the president for being willing. to take that risk and take that step. Let's not forget where this started. Eric, I know you know as well as anybody. That was a very tumultuous relationship at the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency. It was one of the things that Barack Obama had told him, like, keep your eye on this. And then the president comes in and has these very intense exchanges publicly with Kim Jong-un about, you know, fire and fury and who has a bigger button that works better.

So all of those things built up and led us to that moment. But also the president putting the most intense and maximum pressure on North Korea through a series of sanctions, unlike anything the U.S. had done on North Korea in the past. I think it really brought North Korea to their knees and force them to come to the table and have those conversations with the president. There's still a long way to go, but they made some progress. I think the president got some good things out of that back and forth, out of that relationship, for one, hostages from North Korea,

the remains of U.S. soldiers from North Korea, and they stopped testing for a pretty extended period of time and while they were having these ongoing conversations. And, you know, I'm still hopeful that one day they'll give up nuclear weapons, but, you know, no one thinks that that's going to be easy. Nobody just relinquishes nuclear weapons without, you know, a lengthy and long fight and process. And so, again, I certainly don't think it's lost on anybody, the magnitude and the difficulty of the task ahead.

But I'm proud of the president for being willing to sit down and at least try to make peace and show them what their future could be like if they were willing to take those steps. Let me ask you because it's all part of the same thing. I mean, you were at the White House in this position in the midst of everything. I mean, it's suddenly like civil war has descended on the United States. And you have, for the first time, a kind of, you know, a Democratic Party that is literally unwilling to accept the results of a duly held election in which the American people, not the base, but the American people chose this president. You were in the middle of that. You were attacked at the red-hand restaurant.

I mean, the national correspondence dinner. I mean, we're living in times that are so bizarre. Where do you think it's going to go, Sarah? Because clearly, all of this is unprecedented. The hate of this president is unprecedented, in part because this president himself is unprecedented. There's nobody, never been a fighter like this willing to do and say some things he said. But what's your perception of where we are and where we're going to go from here? Well, unfortunately, I think that as we move into the election and get closer to November 3rd, I don't see things exactly getting better over the course of the next month. You know, I think they're going to intensify, which is disappointing.

One of the things I find so interesting is how the Democrats and the, media and the liberal elites on the left are constantly lecturing Donald Trump about accepting the 2020 election results when they still haven't accepted the 2016 election results. We went through hell as a team, as a White House, as a country dealing with their unwillingness to accept the 2016 results and their constant attacks and, you know, attempt at total destruction of this president and everyone around him because they didn't like that he beat him in 16. And now they have the audacity to lecture him and the rest of the country about accepting the election results in 2020.

I'm hopeful that it is a clear and decisive win for the president and we don't have a lengthy and drawn out process following the election. I don't know that I think that's likely, but I certainly am hopeful that that is what takes place. Well, you know, you and I are both Christians and, and there are so many people who, because of Trump's personality, because of he, because he can be belligerent, although I use that in a good way, there's a time to fight, evil, but they somehow make it sound like those two things can't go together. How can you as a Christian support a president like this? We've just got a few seconds left in this segment, but just begin your answer, and then I want to kind of get into that.

Well, I think it's, for me, it's very simple. The president has governed more conservative than any Republican predecessor before him. He has fought for the pro-life movement. He has fought for religious liberty. He has pushed to make sure we have completely remade the judiciary, not just the Supreme Court, but the entire federal judiciary. The president has appointed and confirmed over 200 judges. Those things alone should give all Christians confidence. Let's pause there. We'll pick it up on the other side of the break.

Folks, talking to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Hey, get rhythm. When you get the blues, come on get rhythm. Hey, the folks, I'm talking to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She wrote a book. I have it right here. Sarah, congratulations on the book again. And you were just talking to me about, I asked you about there are many people, many Christians

and then many non-Christians who get really puzzled by why evangelicals would support a president, you know, who's been thrice married and, you know, who has a history of being kind of a womanizer and a New York playboy. They don't get it. Tell us, I mean, because there are people listening who aren't going to vote. They just think like, well, that's just, you know, I'm a Christian. I don't need to vote. Tell us, if you don't mind, you know, what your perspective is on how faith comes into politics. Certainly.

And what I was saying just before the break is how the president has governed. People may not always like his style, but it's very hard to argue with the substance of what he has delivered, particularly for people of faith, whether it's the judiciary, whether it's religious freedom and religious liberty, or whether it is the pro-life movement, this is a president who has really fought for people of faith in a number of fronts and done so successfully, far more so that I think anybody, any president prior to him. And I'm very proud of the work that the president has done. One of the other things that, you know, I feel like a lot of people,

certainly those that may not be believers miss, is I'm not looking for a savior in my president. I already have one. I am looking for somebody who can lead our country and govern in a way that allows me to continue to live out my faith in a free way in the greatest country on the face of the planet, not allow the government to infringe on my faith, attack my faith, but protect me in a way that I can live it out in the way that I see fit. That is so important in this country. It's one of the fundamental values of our country. and we need somebody who understands that and is willing to stand between the liberal mob and people of faith and make sure we continue to get to enjoy and live our faith in the way that we want to. Well, well said. And I think, you know, what's funny to me is that when people talk about evangelicals supporting the president, they forget why we're supporting him. We're supporting him not mainly for our self-interest, but because we believe in this idea of a man.

American-style self-government and liberty, and we believe that he, in governing, is protecting that. And I think that at any time in the past, the Democrats could have made a case that they get that issue. But if ever they have sprinted leftward away to Venezuela, this is that time. And we have to understand that the choice, unfortunately, is so stark. It's so dramatic compared to what we had in the past. Yeah, for me, it's very simple, and I tell people this all the time. At the end of the day, only two choices are on the table. Only one of two people will be president, either Donald Trump or Joe Biden. One of them has already proven and shown that he will govern as a conservative, that he will empower people of faith. One has not only not demonstrated an ability to govern in that way, but has been completely on the opposite end of the spectrum, adopting socialist policies, identifying with the party of Bernie Sanders and AOC, and pushing this, again, radical left agenda, not even a willingness or even a capability of standing up to the liberal mob. That's it. Those are your two choices. One of those two people will be president. One has been very clear about what their position is and how they will govern and help continue.

to push conservative philosophies and an agenda, and one has caved and coward to the radical left at every chance and at every turn. That's it. It's so simple, but the consequences of this election could not be greater. The stakes could not be higher, and the contrast could not be more clear. And those are your two choices. My choice is obviously with Donald Trump, because I am a conservative. I do believe in conservative principles, and I want to be able to continue to live those out in my life in America. Well, you know, it is kind of funny because when we're talking about the mob on the left, there has never been a mob like this. There was once, you know, there were always fringe elements like this, but it seems obvious to me that the Democratic Party

has made a deeply cynical calculation that they will allow genuinely, anti-American voices and ideas to hold sway, to destroy cities, that they have somehow cynically decided that that may give them power, and they won't speak up. I think of, you know, President Clinton having his famous sister soldier moment where he says, no, that's too far. This, the Democratic Party today, it doesn't seem that they have the ability or maybe the power even to stand up against the most radical elements on the left, which I find frightening. It's terrifying. And I think the reason that they can't stand up to them is because they control

too much of their party now. They have adopted a large percentage of the voting block for the Democrat Party. They know without that radical left, they can't win anything. So they have, as a party, moved so far to the left and had to adopt those radical left policies that that that is who they have become. They have allowed the loudest group of people to take total control of their party and they cannot separate themselves from it because it has become exactly who they are. I find it absolutely terrifying that there are that many people that want to destroy our country, the one that we love, the one that we should be proud of. We should be proud to be an Americans. and they have started a sentiment and a feeling and a movement that we should somehow be ashamed and apologize for being America.

And I think that is such a dangerous path to take. I want to pick up on that when we come back from the break. More with Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Folks, I'm talking to Sarah Huckabee Sanders and you get to watch. It's so much fun talking to you, Sarah, just because you've been there. And I think mainly because you're the daughter of Governor Huckabee, whom I love. But let me ask you a couple of quick. Quick questions, first of all. Have you ever physically attacked or attempted to punch an Antifa

protester? Yes or no? Would you kid to elaborate on that? No, never mind. Okay, I'll take your word for it just for now. I was trying to follow the rules. You said yes or no. I'm teasing you. I'm teasing you. But I just saw a report. I saw something on the internet and it looked like it might have been you taking a swing at one of the protesters outside the white house. But you know what? I'm not going to dignify that by continuing this line of questioning. We're just going to leave at that. I'll take you at your word. It seems to me that the main problem that we have in this country right now is the media. In other words, I think you're average American. If given a clear choice of options, there's no contest. But we have a media that basically in 2016, I mean before that,

but not really dramatically until 2016, decided to be all in against this president. We have a deep state, which we didn't know existed until this president was elected, who are all in against this president. If the president wins a second term, and I think he will, by the grace of God, do you think he will be able somehow to deal with what we call the deep state? Will he be able to drain the swamp as so many of us want him to do? Or do you think these are things that we're just going to have to struggle with forever? I definitely think he can.

I think he's made some progress. I think one of the best decisions he made was putting Bill Barr in as his attorney general. He has done, I think, a phenomenal job. Still a lot of work to do. But I think between Bill Barr and putting Durham, John Durham in place, we are making some progress on that front. starting to get to the bottom of just how far and how wide the corruption was. And I am hopeful that they will continue their work. I'd love to see some of the results and findings before the election. But if not, certainly soon after, I think it is so important that the American people know the

truth and that justice is held and that we find out exactly who was involved, how much they knew, and they should all be held accountable once it's said and done. Well, so many of us have said that, but it really does seem that, you know, Hillary Clinton, for example, destroying, you know, Blackberries and phones with hammers. I mean, that her people did this and that they, you know, this is the kind of stuff that people go to jail for. And I think that there's a sense among Americans at this point that there is a double standard of justice. And I really believe that that erodes liberty. When the citizens don't believe, basically, that the government is essentially fair and is essentially able to be fair or to correct itself when it's not fair.

It really erodes the whole thing. So do you, I mean, who do you think could be held accountable? Because I increasingly worry that some of the top figures won't be held accountable. And what they did, as far as I'm concerned, was it was to attempt a coup d'etat. this is not the American way. They did it. It becomes clear and clear. What do you suppose could happen? I mean, I'd love to see people like James Comey held accountable, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, and the list of that group goes on, you know, whether it's Clapper and Brennan are part of that as well. I think all of those things are on the table. And again, they should continue pushing forward until they know. you mentioned Hillary Clinton's phones being wiped. We also know that a number of other FBI phones were cleared out.

I mean, it's just the list continues to grow. We found out that they got their information from a Russian spy. All this time, the Obama and Clinton political machines, along with the media, have been attacking the president, literally calling him a traitor to his own country and saying that he colluded with Russia when it was actually. actually them who were colluding with Russia all along. They got this information from a Russian spy. The hypocrisy is absolutely outrageous. People are mad and they should be and they should be frustrated because the Democrats in the media spent two years, wasted two years, millions of dollars of taxpayer money pushing a narrative that we all knew to be false at the time,

but they just wouldn't let it go. Adam Schiff promised time and time again. He had the smoking gun. He had absolute proof. He still has yet to produce a single thing to show and back up any of the claims that he made. I find the whole thing to be applying again. I have confidence in Attorney General Bill Barr that he's going to get to the bottom of it and hold these individuals accountable.

Well, it just seems to me that it's a level of desperation that we've never seen before. That, you know, it's one thing to be political. It's another thing to lie brazenly. This is brazen lying. And some of what they have done, it really makes Benedict Arnold look like a great American hero. I mean, it's very, very dark, I think, where they have gone. And I just, you know, folks like you and others who were fighting in the middle of all of that, I think a lot of Americans just saw you all as heroic.

And that continues the election. I don't see the Democrats accepting the results of the election. And others, I think that if there's any possibility that they can litigate or do whatever they can, they're just going to, it's kind of like with the Kavanaugh hearings. They didn't like it. And they just decided we are just going to scream, you know, until we're totally shut down. It seems like we're looking forward to that, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, I think you're right.

Not only do I not think that they'll accept the election results. Like I said before, they still haven't accepted the election result from 2016. I don't think we can expect anything different from them in 2020. They have shown every single day that they hate this president more than they love our country. And they're willing to do whatever they can to destroy him and everybody around him if they think it helps them take greater control. And I think it's very sad. what has happened over the course of the last several years. I'd love to be optimistic that, again, the president has a very clear and decisive win,

and this all goes away quickly. But I think that you are right. I don't think they're going to necessarily accept the election results. I think we will have things tied up in court likely for a while, particularly if we have close races in a lot of these key battleground states with a whole new voting process, which we've never used before when it comes to mass, in voting. Certainly we've done absentee, but just this week they found 100,000 ballots in New York state alone that went to the wrong people and wrong addresses. While at the same time, they're

trying to tell us that vote fraud and mail-in ballots are perfectly fine and there's no mistakes to be made. So it's certainly- Hang on right there. We're just going to go to a hard break. We'll be right back with Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Folks, I'm talking to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Huckabee Sanders, just a few minutes left. Sarah, you were talking about the election ahead, and it does seem like a level of desperation and madness has come upon the Democratic Party that they, in this desperation, they've just thrown out the rules and they're just willing to do whatever is necessary, including lie really brazenly, which I find there's just something ugly about it when you do that and when the media is complicit. in it. So I do wonder when we will know that Trump has been reelected. I mean, when we will be able to settle on it officially and if that's something that you think would go to the Supreme

Court. I definitely think it's possible that it could go to the Supreme Court. I don't think that we will know on election night. I know that there are several states that won't even count a lot of the mail-in ballots until several days after the election is conducting. So I do think it's very likely we won't know on election night and could be, you know, a week to two to three weeks later before we actually have a certified election in victory. And you know, you probably aren't aware of this, but it was just breaking that CNN today declared Biden the winner. So just think of that. It's going to be very, very interesting political theater on the night of the election to see how that goes. I mean, if some of these battleground states go rather decisively to the president,

whether they will be willing to say that on the air or whether it's already baked in that they can't go there. Now, listen, let's turn to something more positive. Your future, young lady, you've got these kids, but you're living in Arkansas. what are you thinking of doing next professionally? Definitely very serious about running for Arkansas governor in 2022. And I'll make a decision on that with my family sometime after the 2020 election. Right now, our focus is on helping get the president reelected. I'd love to make sure that we keep the Senate.

And I think one of the things that would make all of America happy is if Republicans could take back the House and never have to utter the work. speaker Pelosi again. I think that would be a cause for celebration in the streets. And so right now, super focused on 2020 and want to make sure we do well in this cycle. And as soon as we wrap up there, we'll make a final decision as a family about what 2022 looks like for us. Well, you know, it's obviously important that you consider your family. And as you consider your family and your young kids, let me ask you, have you considered purchasing copies of this

children's book, Donald Drain's the Swamp. It's very, very important, I think, that the young people in America understand that they should buy that book. Now, I have to tell you, it's kind of funny to me. I have to joke when things get so serious and dark, and these books in a way are one way I have of joking about the bizarre situation in which we find ourselves. Folks like you have really stepped up, in your case, literally to the podium, and been able to deal. with this kind of madness in a way that I think gives all of us hope. The idea, Sarah, that you're considering running for the governorship in your father's footsteps, that's happy news for most Americans.

So let me just end by saying congratulations on everything you've done thus far. And this wonderful new book, Speaking for Myself, which I should have mentioned, the subtitle, is Faith, Freedom and the Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump. White House and with best wishes to you as you and your family figure out what's next for you. Just a joy to know you and to see you out there. God bless you, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Thank you so much. Always great to be with you.

And for the record, I do have a copy of that book. I think you gave it to my dad and he passed it to the kids. So we have read it. They are learning and they're learning all the right things. So don't worry that book is being read in the Sanders house. It's okay. And as long as you know, there are three of them now. But fortunately for you, we're out of time.

Yeah. All right. God bless you, Sarah. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. You bet. Thank you.