The Eric Metaxas Show - Sebastian Gorka

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Salem radio host Sebastian Gorka joins to discuss the conflict in Israel and other important current events.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say the day after the eclipse, but... No, the eclipse was canceled. You didn't hear about that? Yeah. Yeah, you look up in the sky. There's no eclipse. Yeah, I think Netflix is requiring the moon and the sun to get different passwords now, so they canceled it. That was clever, Chris. That was brilliantly clever, almost freakishly clever. No, yesterday was April 8th, which makes today, I believe, this is just doing the math in my head, April 9th, which is the anniversary of the execution of my hero and the hero of millions, Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I wrote about him in the longest book I ever wrote called Bonhofer, Pastor Martyr Prophet Spy. And I can recommend that book because people come up to me to this day.

saying that's their favorite book of all time apart from the Bible. And I'm glad that they always say apart from the Bible, because I assume that it's apart from the Bible, but they feel like they have to say that. But look, his story is that magnificent. It has nothing to do with my book, or mostly nothing to do with my book. It has to do with his story.

His story is a very beautiful, inspiring story. I was privileged to tell the story in the book, Bonhofer, But every April 9th, I just think about the fact that it was today that it happened at dawn. And I mean, it's interesting because when I wrote the Bonhoeffer book, oh, by the way, I want to say, coming up on this show, our one, Sebastian Gorka or Seb Gorka, as he is often called, because Americans have trouble with the name Sebastian. Seb Gorka. It's shorter. As if Seb is easier than Sebastian. I think Sebastian's easier.

But people confuse him with Sebastian Cabot, who also had a Van Dyke beard. I don't know who that is. Sebastian Cabot, he played Mr. French in family affair with Jody and Buffy. Yeah, my brain didn't exist back then. I think that's how much time. No, you were not yet born. But I was, I'm a little older than you are. And I think that Sebastian Cabot, who played Mr. French,

yeah, that's the only other Sebastian that I know other than Sebastian. Gorgia. But Sebastian Gorg is my guest, my guest, an hour one, an hour two. I'm pretty sure we have Peachie Keenan, who is so great. Oh, my gosh, they're both great. What an amazing two hours today. But I want to say, to get back to Bonhoeffer, when I wrote the Bonhoffer book, I really didn't, I mean, I certainly did not expect it to do well. I'm not making that up. I mean, if you know me, you know, you know, I just, you know, I wanted to write it and kind of move on and I thought it was an important story. I never, ever, ever dreamt that it would explode, that it would sell a million copies, that would be translated to 20 languages, and until I supported

Trump, I would be celebrated by the evangelical church across the world. But what's interesting to me is, and one of the reasons I know God chose me to write that book is because it is more relevant today than when I wrote it. And so my new book, which is called Religionless Christianity, God's answer to evil. Oh, look, I have a copy right here. In this book, I talk a lot about Bonhofer, because he's the one that came up with the unwieldy phrase, religionless Christianity, to describe, maybe now is a good time for me to explain what it is. Yeah, when does it come out, by the way? Like next week? I don't know, April, actually, no, April 23rd, officially, April 23rd. But you can pre-order it now, and there may be some copies available before that. But

Yesterday I signed like a thousand copies. And your hands are still on. At New Life Christian stores. If you want to get copies, you can go to Socrates in the city.com. You can get signed copies at Socratesinthe city.com. But I feel like the first thing I have to explain about this book, and I'll spend the weeks ahead talking about it one way or the other. There's a lot about Bonhofer in this book because Bonhofer, to me, points the way forward in terms of of what do we do now? Because we're in a very similar, the case I make in Letter to the American

Church in the film, in the documentary film, and of course in the book, Letter to the American Church, is that the parallels to where the German church was in the early 30s to where the American Church is today are stunning, staggering, horrifying. In this book, religionless Christianity, I kind of talk about what do we do about it, I guess, and how do we, well, I'm sorry, let me say just in the few minutes we have before we go to our guest, Sebastian Gorka or PG-Kin, let me say that the title religious, religiousness Christianity comes from a letter that Bonhoeffer wrote. In the last year of his life, he was in the Gestapo prison, horrible, and he wrote a letter to his best friend, Abrahatt Beitka. Now, I write about this in the book, so, but he wrote to his friend, and he's kind of thinking, how did all of this happen? How did we lose the battle? Why did the church? fall. Why did the church fail to stand? What happened? And he says, if only we had had a religionless Christianity. And what he means by that, he's using the word religion as a pejorative,

like this dead religiosity. We had all this church stuff. We're all playing church. But we didn't have actual Christianity, like robust, active Christian faith, willing to die for what you believe in. And he was saying, if we had had a religionless Christianity, we would not have succumbed to the evil of the Nazis, but we didn't. And the reason I wrote the book is because I think we need to go back and try to understand what was Bonhofer saying, what did he mean by that? Now, if you look at everything that he wrote up until then, he understood this concept when he was in his early 20s.

In fact, I talk about how when he was an assistant pastor in Barcelona, Spain for a year, He was teaching a German-speaking congregation, and he gave three lectures to the high schoolers kind of on this subject, or at least one of the lectures, was exactly on this subject. Many years before he came up with the term religious Christianity, but he's talking about what happens when we're just playing church? In other words, what happens when we're going through the motions, the religious motions, but we're not actually living out our faith? That's when you have dead religion. It's not actual Christianity. And so God's answer to evil is religion less Christianity. And in the book I talk about what are some religious idols that people, whether the Pharisees in the time of Jesus or pastors in the time of Bonhoeffer in Germany or pastors today or Christians today, what are some of the religious idols that we might worship without realizing it that would lead us into this kind of dead, useless, you know,

pseudo-Christianity, which is actually religion. So that's kind of what the book is about. I say that, I think it's on the back of the book, I say that, actually I can read this. I have a minute. I'll read this. This is the introduction to this book. I say, in America, we're experiencing our third and likely our final existential crisis. The first was our revolution when the threat was from without. The second was our civil war when the threat was from within, but now we face a third trial, whereby evil forces aimed to steal our freedoms and national sovereignty via a globalist world system dedicatedly at war with the God from whom we derive our principles of liberty and justice for all, as well as with the principles themselves.

And the threat to us now is from both within and without. This book is a sequel to my previous book, Letter to the American Church, which draws the unavoidably chilling parallels between the German Christian silence and in action in the 1930s and the silence and an action of American Christians in our own time. Both are the result of a drift away from the biblical idea of a muscular faith that expresses itself in all spheres of life and toward a dead and religious faith that is merely theological and ecclesiastical. Dietrich Bonhofer sought to awaken the church of his day to action, but as we know, they did not heed God's voice through him and invited the judgment they couldn't have dreamt would come.

So I'm excited that, I mean, a couple days ago I got home and I saw a box and I opened it up and it's always, it's an exciting. This is my 15th book, I guess, or 16th or 17th, something like that. But it's an exciting thing to launch a book out there. There's some wacky stuff in here. And I don't mean like wacky in the pejorative sense. I mean, like some, there's some heavy stuff in here. You've not read it, but Tiffany, your wife, she read it. She said it's pretty good.

I think we're going to have to make a film on it. Pretty good. I had to tell you. You hate to tell me? We might have to make another film. A sequel. Well, I'm open to it. We're going to have Vin Diesel play you in the sequel.

All right. Yeah, because I'm so busy. I'm so busy. And he can do his own stunts. Letter to the American Church. Not like last time. I got messed up. I got my arms messed up.

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Welcome back, Sebastian. It's always great to see you, my friend. You are an encouraging voice in the culture. Every time I hear you, and I hear you often, you really, you're encouraging us to be courageous and I just appreciate that and I want to I want to talk to you about anything that's on your mind you you mentioned well first of all was it yesterday which was Monday so today's Tuesday was the six month anniversary of it was Sunday Sunday was the anniversary. Oh that's right the 7th October 7th what do you make Sebastian because I have to say I

I always feel like maybe I'm missing something. Maybe I'm – there's some people who seem to think that Israel, they should pull back somehow. You know, you hear that. And I think, well, if that's the way for Israel to win, if that's the way for Israel to make sure this never happens again, then I would say, yes, they should do that. I'm not sure why – because there's some people who are pro-Israel.

who say that. And I always think maybe I'm missing something. What's your perception of where they are now? I mean, look, the fact that Hamas still has the hostages. Yeah. This to me is, that's the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned. I don't know. Well, not only that, the fact that we have Americans amongst the hostages.

And can you imagine what the situation would be like, how different it would be if my former boss, President Trump, was still in the White House, and American hostages have been kept for six months in heinous conditions. I mean, I'm always amused. I always chuckle when people say, with regards, because my background is national security, what would President Trump do right now

with regards to Ukraine or the Middle East if he was still in the White House? And I literally laugh at the people who ask them because I say, what do you mean? What would he do? It wouldn't have happened. You know, for four years, can we just go back?

The man who they said is the war. Warmonger. He's going to start World War III for four years, Eric, we had peace. No new wars. ISIS, the caliphate that we'd been told by Obama is, quote, a generational problem we just have to get used to. We crushed it. We got the lawyers out of the way. We unleashed J-Soc and Delta Force. And the caliphate within a span of four months ceased to be like a certain parrot in a certain Montepython skit. So the fact that we have no American leadership and that institutionalized anti-Semitism has a home inside the Democrat Party,

these should horrify people. The fact that secular Jews almost exclusively vote for the Democrat Party and then 95% of Orthodox Jews vote for President Trump, that tells you the dividing line in America. And think about, I had the president on my show two weeks ago for an hour. And one sentence made the news internationally, the daily mail everywhere talked about it, Politico, Washington Post, your times. President Trump was accused of being

an anti-Semite in my interview. Why? Because he said the following words. He said, if you're an American Jew and you vote for the Democrat Party, you must hate Israel. And he was accused of the dual loyalty canard, which is weird because he's actually saying the opposite. He's saying, not that you're loyal to Israel as well as America. He's saying, if you vote for the Democrats, you know, that have Rashida Talib, Ilhan, Omar, AOC amongst them, you really hate yourself and you hate Israel as well. And he's absolutely right.

Think about it. Chuck Schumer, the most senior Democrat in the Senate says, you know, Israel, you better get rid of that BB guy. The duly elected prime minister. is being attacked by the most senior Democrat in the Senate? I mean, what has the world come to? Let me be clear. There is no ceasefire until the problem is dealt with

because this is the greatest loss of life since the showers, since the Holocaust. And the sad thing is it's not going to be easy to solve. Why? This is where so many people don't get it. 70 to 78% of Garzans support what happened on October 6th. 7th support children being murdered. Wait a minute.

Say that, give us that statistic again because people need to hear this. People cry about Gaza, okay. We don't want innocence to suffer, but you said how many support this? Between 70 and 78% of Gazans approve of what Hamas did on October the 7th, which means there is no military solution to this. And the fact that Egypt, Egypt, not exactly, you know, a Zionist nation, has built a wall between Gaza and Egypt tells you the enormity of the problem. This is Israel facing down those who wish to exterminate them. And the fact that we have Democrats on the streets of New York, we have Democrats outside the White House chanting from the river to the sea, which is a genocidal chart, the fact that the former.

president of Harvard, who, by the way, this is the pathetic thing of it, Eric. She stepped down, why? Because of plagiarism. Not because she said at a congressional testimony. She said, well, a genocidal chance against the Jews, that's a contextual thing. That's the president of Harvard. If you want to see institutionalized anti-Semitism, it is alive and well, and it lives inside the Democrat Party. It's a staggering thing. I mean, look, any Anytime somebody like Chuck Schumer says anything, I'm for the opposite automatically. I cannot imagine ever agreeing with Chuck Schumer. So when he calls for BB Netanyahu to step down, now why would he say that?

I'm just curious. Where do you think he's going with that? I can tell you why, because 100,000 Democrat voters in Michigan in the primaries voted what? They voted uncommitted. I mean, the Democrat Party is hemorrhaging support from Muslim Americans. who say, how dare you stand with our closest ally in the Middle East? How dare you support the only representative democracy in the whole region? So the fact that hundreds of, to date, if you add it up, it's probably half a million.

Registered Democrats in the primaries have ticked the box other. They're not voting for RFK or Cornell West. They're not voting for Biden. That's a problem. They've got to placate the anti-Semites. Remember, I mean, this is the party of Ilhan Omar who said, oh, for the Jews, politics is all about the Benjamin's, right? These are the Democrat representatives who have tweeted out

that Israel has hypnotized the West. But this is stuff they actually say publicly. AOC is a proud BDS supporter. The boycott, divest, sanctioned, sanctioned, is the modern face of anti-Semitism, and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is an avowed BDS supporter. This is the stark reality. It's people who, and I'm not going to even use the word anti-Semitic because a former colleague of mine from the Trump administration, who was our envoy to fight anti-Semitism. He said, stop calling it anti-Semitism.

That's politically correct. That is an antiseptic term invented by the left. this is Jew hatred, Eric. This is simple Jew hatred. Yeah, there's a difference. It's funny when you mentioned that President Trump was on your program and he said what he said, I was actually invited Eric Bowling had me on Newsmax to talk about that. And I was just laughing at the idea that all kinds of people were triggered by Trump saying that.

Because look, it's a fact. I live in a building in Manhattan. with mostly orthodox Jews who all love Trump. And most secular Jews hate Trump. And it's fascinating to me that that is the case, that you have secular Jews voting for the Democrats against their own interests, against the interests of Israel. It's a bizarre thing.

This brings us to what you refer to as, you call it a new taxonomy. Talk a little bit about that. Yeah, so I'm in my, what is it, sixth year of doing radio with Salem, and a couple of years in, it kind of came, so my first degree was philosophy and theology. So I try to get terms defined first, because if you don't define terms, you can't analyze or fix anything.

And it came to me that the labels that we were so congenitally prone to use because it's just happened. It's our tradition are totally without any merit. I mean, the words we use do not reflect reality. Wittgenstein said a word only has functional merit if it actually connects to a real thing. Well, the word Republican and the word Democrat have no meaning anymore. They don't tell you anything about those groups, nor does conservative or liberal, let's talk about conservative for a second. What is the etymological root of the word conservative to conserve?

Well, we can't conserve the traditions we believe in if they have been roundly dismantled by postmodern secular relativism. There's nothing to preserve. So conservative. Sorry. Actually, no, forgive me. We're going to break, folks.

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a weasel word, words that mean nothing. And this is what the left has done. They invent words, they create words that have no meaning. it's intended to confuse. All right. It's worse than that. That was the first stage. So James Lindsay, he wrote the book on critical race theories.

Critical theory, it's called cynical theories. And there's about a page in half a page where he summarizes queer theory. And when I read the book, this is like three years ago, I said, James, forget the rest of it. this story, this two paragraphs, is the heart of the matter because he quotes professors from the left who are experts in queer theory.

And I can't use the language these professors use because it's F this, F that. And he said, they said, the point of queer theory is to make sure that we mess with the minds of everyone in society. Right. We F with the minds, right. We F with the mind, so nobody knows.

The concept of truth can't even be approached because nobody knows that there is no nexus, there's no pole that's guiding us. And with regards to the taxonomy question, I realize that this little R or this little D behind the names of political actors are irrelevant. Words like conservative, liberal, left and right don't mean anything anymore.

The only liminal divide, The only thing that separates Americans from each other today is one question. Do you love America or do you hate it? If you understand that, everything else falls into place. Because it's not hyperbolic, but answer this question. You look at the last three and a half years of Biden, what would you do differently if your express purpose were to destroy America? Eric, what would you do differently?

You've opened the border. You've made us energy dependent on Venezuela. you've kowtowed to Russia and to China. What would you do differently, Eric? This is something that I, this is the question that I have been asking for more than two years. It looks very much like this administration is trying to destroy America. I don't know. Now, you have to get into why that would be and how the, but the point is, anybody looking at what they're doing,

has to conclude they are the enemies of America. The enemies of America stole the election and are doing everything they can. They know the time is short. They know they don't have a lot of time and they have doubled down on doing absolutely everything they can to destroy this nation. I cannot conclude anything else.

I wish I were wrong. It's not your opinion. It's what they say. It starts with Obama. Listen, when he says, I am going to fundamentally change America. You cannot love that which you wish to fundamentally change. If I told my wife Katie, I love you, Katie, but I wish to fundamentally change you.

I want a brunette who's 5'6, I don't want a blonde, who's 5'10. I wouldn't be on the couch, Eric. I'd be in the doghouse, okay? They, this is the perverse, this is the truly perverse age we live in. I've never seen this before as an amateur historian. fan of classics. I've never seen an age where the elite hates the society over which they have control. I mean, they truly detest it. When, you know, Judeo-Christian as an adjective is pejorative, when you have to dismantle what a man is, what a woman is, when you have, you know,

4,000-worded articles in the Atlantic celebrating the browning of America. But if a conservative, says there's a replacement strategy going on here. You're the conspiracy theorist, but the Atlantic can have, you know, column inches celebrating it. You realize that, look, who was it? It was Pascal who said if you deny the existence of God, well, tough, because you're going to create a God-shaped whole in the soul of human beings. You've got to fill it with something. That God-shaped whole is environmentalism, it's wokeism, it's CRT, and it begins with what? self-hatred. This interesting story was relayed to me, but one of the smartest

I know, the investigative journalist, Rich Minter. And shortly before Andrew Breitbart died, they were friends. Andrew wanted to send some of his Breitbart journalists to the Occupy Wall Street camp. You know, the Occupy Wall Street, you know, with the rape tents and everything else. And Rich said to Andrew, hey, have your journalists ask one question from every Occupy Wall Street woke loony. And that question is, tell me about your relationship with your father. And you know what the

answer would have been, right? They hate their father, and now they have to project that sense of hatred and failure onto everything else that's normal, and they have to dismantle it. That's why we are where we are today. It's a love of country and love of Judeo-Christian civilization, vice everybody who wants to destroy it. There's no doubt about it, and it has to be said at the heart of it all is something unavoidably diabolical. It is a hatred of God. Yes. It is a neelistic, satanic hatred of God. And if you hate God, you hate those who are made in his image. So you hate human beings. If you hate God, you hate the world he created. You hate reality. Reality. But more than that, more than that, you hate everything that is good. Because what is God? God is the good, right?

Yeah. So it's not just, you know, what he created. Goodness itself, truth, truth must be denied. Why does the left say, remember that that moment when then Senator Kamala Harris says to Blazy Ford during the Kavanaugh hearings about the so-called rapes, I believe in your truth. Excuse me? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. We've got a whole, hang on.

We're going to be right back. Folks talking to Sebastian Gorka. And Sebastian, as we go to the break, I believe in your truth. We'll be right back. Welcome back talking to Sebastian Gorka. Sebastian, we're talking about important things. We're talking about this hatred of all that is good. Now, to hate what is good and true and beautiful is satanic.

We see it on the left. We've never seen it as we've seen it in the Biden administration. They seem, I mean, the idea that you'd open our borders, that you would let, look, I guarantee there are millions of decent people who want to come to America coming in. We're not concerned about them. We're concerned about evil actors coming in. concerned about some of the most violent human beings on the planet, drug cartel, some of the most vicious monsters and criminals ever taking control of our southern border, flooding our

nation with fentanyl. It seems everywhere you turn, there is this satanic project, and not to stand against it with everything you have, as this administration is not standing. It seems to me proof that they want to destroy the nation. It's a staggering thing to see. And there are many conservatives, many Republicans, who don't see it. I mean, I don't know. I don't get the impression that Mike Pence sees this. You know, you think that they would at least see that. I don't see that they see it.

We've got to, except for the MAGA crowd, we seem to be playing patty cake with the devil. Let's, I mean, look, your analysis is sound, but for a moment, we can ignore the cartel members, the terrorists, the 80s, the agents of inimical powers. Let's just put that to one side if possible. And look at what does the left say about themselves, right? They are the arch virtue signalers. And they say, we're here for the little guy. We're here for women.

We're here for minorities. Who has hurt the most by open borders? You, Eric Metaxis, are not going to lose your job. I, likewise, am not going to lose my job because somebody just crossed the Rio Grande yesterday. Who's going to lose their jobs? It's Jose, who came legally 10 years ago, went through the process, took the exam, paid his money, and he's busing tables in, you know, Dallas. And along comes the Nigerian, one of the millions let in, and tells Jose's boss, hey, I'll do his job for 50% cash under the table.

So who are you actually screwing? Number one, you're screwing the migrant population that came. here legally. You're totally destroyed. They just got up to the bottom run of the American dream and you just ripped the ladder away from them. And then secondly, and this is when you realize it is not hyperbolic. This is the work of the devil. They are on the side of the dark one. Left-wing organizations like Human Rights Watch, like United Nations HCR, say what? Between 50 and 60% of the girls and women trafficked are raped. I went down to the border. I saw the packets of strewn abortion pills all over the desert there.

Why? Because the little 12-year-old girls were taking abortion pills because they were being raped. So the party, and Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security, isn't some guy who was sitting in an ivory tower in Yale writing articles for, you know, the review. He was one of the most senior officials in DHS under Obama. So he knows that when he comes back in, opens the speaker, he knows that of the 10th, 10,000 illegals coming every day, more than 50% of the women and girls are being raped. That is when you know that there is one political party in America called the Democrat Party,

and it is in league with Satan. You know, there was a time when I would disagree. We've long passed that time. It is amazing to me, because you and I know how many wicked human beings are in the Republican Party, who are just rhino scum, who couldn't care less about anything, but maybe they're not even wise enough to know that they hate America. But generally speaking, what I say in many of my speeches is that the Democratic Party, the face of the Democratic Party is no longer Tip O'Neill.

It's no longer Jimmy Carter or Richard Gephardt. I mean, there are people who don't seem to understand that over time, the Democratic Party has moved and moved and moved to a point where they are fundamentally, unavoidably anti-America. They are, and, you know, that goes along with what you're saying. To not care that people are being raped, I mean, it just boggles my imagination, that they don't care about, they don't care about that. It almost doesn't make sense.

What have they given themselves over to? It's satanic. Again, don't listen to me and Eric. Watch for yourself. That glimpse behind, it wasn't even behind the curtain. It was on the front of the Procedure March. The day of the Super Tuesday evening, as President Trump is just massive returns. And you have Jen Sarky, Rachel Maddow, and the homophobe bigot, Joy Reid, looking at the results.

And Sarky lives in Virginia, and she says, I don't get it. The exit polls say that all these people vote. for Trump, their number one concern is legal immigration. And she laughs, and Maddow laughs, and Joy Reid cackles, like three Marie Antoinettes. And then Jen Sarkie says, I live in Virginia. I don't understand why they care. And then Rachel Maddow says, well, Virginia does have a border with West Virginia. The utter contempt, the disdain for what real Americans feel, this is what the Democrat Party has become. And they don't hide it. They laugh about. about the concerns of the American people.

You know, Lake and Riley is a joke to them, Eric. Yeah, this is, again, this is where we are. And I think a lot of what has to happen, Sebastian, and I make this effort wherever I go and all the speeches I give, is to help people understand this is where we are now. I understand that it's difficult to process, but you need to process it.

You need to understand where we are now. And if you are not in the fight against it, you are part of the problem. If you're sitting on the sidelines now and you're ignoring these things, you are allowing the rapes to happen, the fentanyl deaths to happen. I just got back from California

in front of 900 of our listeners, and I always say something worse. I say, if you're not actively engaged politically, you're actually working for the Democrats. I'm sorry. That's exactly what I said. Yeah, that's like, no, that's exactly correct. And I, and listen, there are many people,

I mean, we just, I mean, I still can't get over it, that we had Mike Pence refused to endorse Donald Trump. Now, we're not in the primaries anymore. Donald Trump is going to be the nominee. And you have someone, Mike Pence, who was his vice president, refuse to endorse him, which, what does that do? That sends the signal to innumerable conservatives, quote unquote, listen, don't vote for Trump. I won't even endorse him against, against all of the evil we're talking about. We'll be right back talking to Sebastian Skorka. Welcome back talking to Sebastian Gorka. Sebastian, I've been talking about this more and more. I have a new book coming out called Religinalist Christianity, God's Answer to

evil, where I basically say that even if you're not some kind of a person of great faith, you look around at what's happening in America and you realize, no, we're not dealing with differences of opinion. It seems evil. It seems like what's happening has no explanation. To declare resurrection Sunday as the trans day of visibility seems satanic. It seems calculated to show the middle finger to every Christian in America. The idea that the Democrat Party has come to this point has to be acknowledged. It has to be faced and it has to be thought. This is no longer the party of Tip O'Neill. Yeah. It is essential

that all of your viewers and listeners understand that this isn't Obama, this isn't Biden. This is a 90-year project. I know you're going to talk to her soon, but Katie and her former heritage colleague who've just published NextGen Marxism, which is the explication of how, you know, from Antonio Grinche to Saul Olinsky to Obama to AOC, this has been 90 years of a revolution in science.

the institutions of our state. But I want to, again, I just want to make a case in front of the judge. If you think we're being extreme here, then watch the testimony of Chloe Coles in front of Congress. A 15-year-old girl who was convinced by doctors that she would only be happy if her healthy breasts were removed. If she was pumped full of testosterone

own and she pretended she play-acted to be a boy. Chloe has now detransitioned. I don't know if she's going to be able to have children or whether they sterilized her successfully. But when you have people who have taken the Hippocratic oath and are literally with a scalpel and chemicals mutilating young children so that they, and I'm going to say this, can't for the rest of their lives have sexual pleasure and B will never bear children. You know who did that? Mengele did that. The angel of death did that in Hitler's death camps. Now, Boston's Children Hospital is doing it.

Look it up. Don't take my word for it. It's happening in America. Then at that point, there is no question. The Lord of Darkness is walking through America's body politic, through our hospitals and through our schools. What pedophilic pornography that you can't read at the school board meetings is on the bookshelves of the 10-year-olds at school.

I'm sorry, case closed. We have a minute left, and people have watched the film, Letter to the American Church. Chloe is in that. We talk about a number of things you've been touching on. This is evil, folks. This is evil, and we need to be in the fight against it.

But in the less than a minute we have left, it seems to me that the Democrats know that Biden can't win in a fair fight. I'm guessing that they're going to swap him out for someone at the convention. What are your thoughts on that? I really thought that would be the case because I couldn't believe that this would actually occur, that this senile old man was going to be that candidate. I've changed my mind. They can't parachute Gavin in. They can't parachute Mab Buttigieg in because then, you know,

what happens to Kamala being skipped over? And then secondly, the state of the union, whatever chemicals they pumped him up with, he functioned. He ranted, but he functioned. And thank the good lord the state of the union has now locked in joe biden which is fabulous for president trump you think so you don't think that they have any way to to do that no no no so then the blowback from not not allowing kamala to be the president would be well they'll find some clever way around it listen uh i hope biden is the candidate sebastian just a joy always to speak with you thank you my friend god bless check out my substack for more that's sebastian gawker substack.com.

Thank you.