The Eric Metaxas Show - Senator Jim DeMint

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

Senator Jim DeMint takes on Beelzebub himself in his fictional tale, "Satan's Dare," which deals with questions of good and evil, pain and suffering, and a God who loves His creation.

Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxus. Good morning. Alvin and Chris, it's morning where we are. We're pre-te-tiping this. But we have two wonderful guests today. Senator Jim DeMint has written a novel, a novel. It's called Satan's Dare. We're talking to him. We're also talking today to Dr. Nicole Sapphire.

I've seen her on Fox News, but medical doctor who talks about some of the questions that I've had about the whole COVID narrative. It's absolutely fascinating, but I will save that. We'll save that. We have a lot of amazing guests coming up really soon. Let me think here. Mickey Robinson, actually, before we get to that, Kathy Ireland, a lot of. A lot of people know Kathy Ireland. She was a very famous sports illustrated model.

A woman of amazing faith who has created a media or I should say a business empire. She's going to be on the program next week. Adam Carolla. Yes. How did we get Adam Carolla? What is he working on that he's coming up? He's got a brand new project he's going to talk about. So you've got to tune in to find out.

But Adam is always a delight. He's a lot of fun. Kathy Ireland, but I don't want to forget this. yesterday in the studio, we were back in the studio and we interviewed a number of extraordinary guests, Vody, no, Voddy, I can never pronounce it correctly, Voddy Bacom. Yeah. He is a black American who is living with his family in Zambia. He is a theologian. He's an amazing person. He's written all these books. But he has written a book called Fault Lines, Fault Lines, that. is about how evangelicalism is staggering into the world of, you know, woke thinking. And he talks

about social justice and all that stuff. But oh my gosh, you know, he's a really brilliant theologian and writer. And we recorded it yesterday. And I just have to say, the book is called fault lines. If you're looking for a book that explains why critical race theory is messed up and worse than messed up and why social justice is a term that's been hijacked by Marxists. We have to cut to the chase and say Marxists. They're cultural Marxists. They don't care about the traditional things that we care. But when we say we're against racism, everybody knows that.

They go way beyond that. Cultural Marxism is very destructive, really horribly destructive. but it's made its way into the American church. And we need to be aware of this. We need to wake up to this. It's really ugly, folks. And if this is going on in your church, you better find another church

or you better have your pastor read Vote's book, fault lines. Because it is, it's a serious issue. Fortunately, Vote's getting a lot of attention these days, a lot of attention. So that's good. Well, he was going to be on this program twice before and he had major heart issues.

Like he almost died twice. It's amazing. So to interview him yesterday, I was just thrilled. He looks and sounds fantastic. So he's obviously doing really well. Tomorrow listen to that interview and watch it tomorrow as well. We're going to try to get it up on Rumble and YouTube and all that. Yeah. Did you say Rumble? Are we on Rumble? Yeah, yeah. Rumble. In fact, Dr. Sapphire is on Rumble now.

We've got to be careful with her on YouTube because she's says some things about COVID. Yeah, we have a block on YouTube where we're two out of three strikes down and one expires in June. So we have to kind of make sure that we don't offend the robot sensors on YouTube till then. They don't like truth. It's a big problem. They don't like truth or truthiness as it's now called.

They just don't like those things. So it's a really disturbing time to be in where you upload a video and you're basically waiting for some sort of algorithm to scan the words that you're communicating and decide if it's a yea or nay, it's very Roman amphitheater. Right. We should do a show on Satan worship because I think that they would just, they'd remove all the strikes. The alchorism scans for Zmirak, I understand.

Zmirak is trouble. He's a fire hose of truth. Okay, so this is an opportunity for us to say to our audience, ladies and gentlemen, will you please sign up for the newsletter, Erika Mataxis.com, because it's the only way we can get these videos to you in a timely fashion. And they're all there. You don't have to wonder where is the video. And we're doing this twice a week now because we're having so many excellent interviews. We don't want it only to come out on Friday. So today or tomorrow, we will send a video out. I'm sorry, a video newsletter out. So go to Eric Mataxis.com, sign up for that. The interview I did yesterday with Mickey Robinson. you can't believe. I mean, first of all, you have to wonder, if anybody hears his story,

how can they not believe in God? It's just astonishing to me. How can you not believe in God? It's one of the most amazing stories I've ever heard. He's obviously very, very smart. And, well, just so people understand, at age 19, which was in 1968, he was in, in involved in a gruesome plane crash. And the pilot died. Mickey should have died at least once. Horrible burns, all kinds of problems, blind in one eye. Just, you can't even believe the story.

And yet, he survived miraculously. And what, I mean, get ready, folks, tomorrow, because he talks about going, to heaven and his description of going there and what happened there and then coming back. And the details, I defy anyone to say, oh, he made it up. This was a 19-year-old kid, an incredible pain, a mess. I mean, just a mess, basically dying. And the nurses and doctors knew he was dying.

It wasn't like they thought he might die. They knew he was dying. He was not supposed to live. He couldn't live. But there's a series of miracles that happened over the years to him. And so anyway, it was just, it's such a faith builder. If you're wondering, is God real and who is God? And why does he let suffering happen?

All the questions that every normal, sensitive thinking person would have, they're good questions. Stories often are answers to them. This story is kind of, it just helps you to get your head around it. but that's tomorrow, Mickey Robinson. No, no, no, it's not tomorrow. It's going to be next week early. It's two days, two days worth. I was in the control booth.

I was just blown away by his story and the miracles. You have got to hear this interview next week, folks. It is, but I want to get it on YouTube ASAP. I don't care. It's really long and we've got to get it up. It doesn't matter if it goes on TBN. We don't need to put it on TV and we should just get it up on YouTube because it's really one of those.

It's just, I don't know, I just, I'm fascinated by stories like this, total miracle after miracle, you know, just an undeniable. I mean, it's undeniable. Check out YouTube later today or tomorrow. We should have that. Yeah, no, we've got to get that up. It's just amazing. And I also should say, share it with your friends, folks.

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entitled Satan's Dare? And why did you write the novel, too? Well, I wrote it because America is in decline, Eric, and America is in decline because the Christian church is in decline. And the Christian church is in decline because Christian leaders are not defending the basics of the faith, such as God existing, God creating the world. or the Bible being true. And all of Western civilization, and particularly America, was built on Judeo-Christian ideas that come straight from the Bible. And we're destroying those foundations.

It's affecting our country. And while this is a novel, it's all about truth. And it's got characters who are asking serious questions of, doesn't science disprove creation? And they have the debate and ask the questions that so many, Christians, Jews, and even people who have no faith should be asking. Why did you decide to write a novel? You know, when people think of U.S. senators, they think of them as writing maybe nonfiction books, not novels. What is it that led you to write a novel?

Well, I've been working on this off and on for over 15 years. Soon after I came to Congress, and I tried to write it at first as a nonfiction book. And the publisher just said it's just too deep. We need to create characters where people can see these ideas being lived out and talked about in real language. So we have debates in this book between a Christian and an atheist. And we have a student group going through the Bible as well as science and trying to align the two. So it was just much easier to make it real if we built real characters who were asking, why do we go through so much suffering? If God's in charge, why is there so much evil in the world?

If we're not willing to ask those questions and try to answer them, I think Christianity will continue to decline in America and around the world. Well, I certainly agree. I actually have a book coming out in October that deals with a lot of these things. It's nonfiction. But I think that the more you look into it, the more fascinating it is, and the more answers you get that, that I think will surprise you. In other words, I think that people often dismiss things because they haven't really looked into them. And when you look into it, it is surprising. The evidence for the God of the Bible from science is astonishing. And most people have never heard anything about this. It's why I wrote this book. But what do you get into specifically in Satan's Dare?

In other words, what are some of these ideas that we're talking about here that you get into in the book? Well, it sounds like we're on the right track, and you'll probably write it a lot better than I did. But the title comes from the first chapter of Job. And I don't like the chapter, but that's where Satan dares God to remove the blessings of Job, saying that if you remove his blessings, he'll curse you. And one of the theories of the book is that is showing us what one of God's motivations for all of us going through this physical world and dealing with suffering and tragedy and death, that it's part of when we praise God and we pray and we come together as believers,

despite all that we go through in this life, we prove Satan wrong. And so this dare that Satan made may be, in fact, why we have to go through this physical world. But the debates in this book, and it sounds like this is where you're going to, is just showing where science. in many cases has actually proved that life and matter are too complicated to have happened by accident, that random evolution is statistically impossible. And whether or not this whole world was created in six days or six long periods, the Bible leaves a lot of room for interpretation in these things. And so Christians, if they want to confirm their faith, need to be willing to ask the questions

and search for the answers. And I think if they do, do, they will see just what you said, is that the Bible, in a sense, proves itself. Science proves that much of the Bible is just, it's not about faith, it's about facts that are right in front of you. And it does relate to politics, Eric, in the sense that this country is, is so much based, the whole idea of rule of law, of absolute truth, of justice, of love, of compassion, of mercy, of everything we take for granted in this country was very different from the rest of the world. So if folks forget the foundations, you know, how are we going to continue to exist? Well, I mean, I think that's part of the reason so many people are horrified at the leftward

lurch of the Democratic Party because it's one thing to have different views on some issues. It's another thing to pull out the fact. foundations to kick God out and then everything that follows from from scripture, the basic ideas of freedom, free speech, religious liberty. All those ideas seem to be suddenly in play where all of us would have agreed on them in any previous decade or generation. Obviously, Clinton signed the Religious Freedom of Restoration Act. We all agreed on the basics. And suddenly we don't agree on the basics. And you're quite right. You know, you cannot really, you cannot have what we have in America unless it's rooted one way or the other in a scriptural view. Most American

schools are not getting anywhere near that, much less teaching that. Yeah. And in Psalm 113, King David asked, if the foundations are destroyed, what will the righteous do? And so this is an old and a New Testament idea that there are foundations of basic truth and morality and things that we're not even willing to discuss today that while again, this is a novel, I think if people go into it, they'll see their own struggles, their own questions, and they'll see both sides of the argument and how science aligns with the Bible and why we go through this suffering. I mean, we don't get all the answers if we search, but the process of searching, Eric, I'm sure, as you, you've seen confirms your faith, even if they're not definitive answers on every point.

So I think people will find that it's a very interesting story. I think people will see themselves and their lives in many places here, and particularly young people, since so much of the book is a class of college young people debating and discussing these ideas and coming up with theories. A lot of Bible scholars won't like this book because it looks at, I mean, it has, I mean, looks at the Bible, doesn't change a word, but it realizes that there are different ways to interpret a lot of the Bible, and we need to look at that. The truth is never afraid of questions, and so there's no reason we can't dig in, ask questions, come up with theories. I think it'll be fun to read, but it'll also, I think, be life-changing for a lot of folks. What is the basic plot?

So ideas aside, what are the characters and sort of what is the story? story. Well, there are two main characters who are ministers, preachers. One of them has the largest megachurch in the world. Both of them go through terrible tragedies. One of them argues and wrestles with God, but he clings to his faith. The other becomes the world famous atheists. And they ultimately meet in a debate where they're talking about the Bible and science. And the atheist tells all the Christians in the audience that they have a Santa Claus God, that they their mind does not really accept all of these things they say they believe. They want to believe it, but they know it's not true. So there are a lot of challenges to us as Christians, particularly

people who don't know the Bible very well. I think they'll find that, first of all, they feel a little vulnerable. But if they read along, I think they'll find a lot of ways to confirm their faith. But ultimately, the two guys get together. They start doing research themselves. and in the book they actually publish all their research in a document called Satan's Dare. Okay, so Satan's Dare. The title of your book is the title of a book in the book. That's right. I really have found that the more I look into the faith and the scripture and the science, the more amazed I am at how clear it is that if I had to bet, there's just no question. the Bible is true. The God of Scripture has to exist. I mean, I think that if you're ignorant,

you can be an atheist. You can say, I simply don't believe God exists. But when you look into it, I think it becomes practically impossible to be an actual atheist. You can say I'm not a Christian, but to be an atheist really becomes intellectually responsible at this point in knowing what we do from the science. That's probably the bottom line of all this, Eric. If you look, look into it, there's no way you cannot believe that there had to be a creator of God. And that's kind of where the atheist in this book comes to at the end. He says, okay, I will agree that there has to be a God, but I won't agree that the Bible is true. And then the rest of the book is kind of digging in to whether or not the Bible is true. Let's hang on there, Senator DeMint. Folks, I'm talking

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My conversation with Senator Jim DeMint, the book is Satan's Dare, a novel. You were just saying, Senator, that in the book, the atheist comes to believe that there has to be some kind of God, but he doesn't believe that the Bible is true. What happens at that point? Well, at that point, they start debating what science says about creation. and the believer here starts bringing in how science has actually proved that the Bible is true. And then they start debating whether it was six days or six periods of creation. And one of the theories is that this physical world is really a pilgrimage of God's people. And as we go through this in order to prove Satan wrong, but also to separate good from Eve,

because no one can leave this physical world for the new heaven, which is both spiritual and physical, without the blood of Christ, because he is the only one who ever had spiritual and physical blood who's lived here. And so a lot of its theories, we're not really trying to create a new theology, but part of a big part of the book is, why do we have to go through that? because the Bible suggests that God's children were his before the creation of the earth. So if we're actually traveling through this physical world with suffering, tragedy, and death, what's the purpose of that? And the book answers that in a lot of ways, or at least comes up with theories of why we go through this.

And a lot of it comes back to God's character, that his four characteristics, Eric, of love, of freedom, justice, and mercy. He loves us so much he has to let us free. And we leave him. We're separated from him. There has to be justice. But his mercy comes because he pays the penalty himself so that we're free. And that's a big part of the Bible.

It's a big part of the book. And in politics, we talk a lot about freedom, Eric. But the Bible tells us, unless we know the truth, we can't be free. And that's why today we see so many lies that enslave people, whether it's the climate change or COVID or whatever is usually exaggerated or mischaracterized in some way that is well away from the truth. So the truth is so critical to living in freedom. And if we don't know it, we cannot presume to continue to be free. It's interesting. That's not something I've heard lately, but it's a pretty big basic idea that if the scripture says, you know, the truth and the truth

will make you free, it does follow that you cannot be free without knowing the truth. And I think even our idea of what freedom is, most Americans really don't know what it is. They think it's freedom from oversight or freedom from, but I don't know who it was that said it's the freedom to do what is right. Right. It's to pursue virtue. It's to freedom is about truth and virtue. And you can't have that just making it up as you go. And today, there's such an arrogance of people who think whatever they believe is true. If I believe I'm a woman, that makes me a woman. That is arrogance and really self-worship. There is a truth. We can't always discover it, but the pursuit of that truth leads to, I think, a way of life that we take for granted in America that we're losing

because we're no longer pursuing truth. Well, it is interesting. truth is under challenge right now in a way that I think most of us never would have dreamt. I mean, the idea that everybody's supposed to say that Bruce Jenner is now a woman, it's maybe impolite at worst to say that Bruce Jenner is Bruce Jenner and not Caitlin Jenner. But the idea that we're supposed to all of us really forget about what we know and simply go along with a narrative that somebody has imposed on us, it's very strange. And I do think that it's appropriate for us to ask why we should go along with that narrative.

And the facts aren't there. And so people on the other side of this don't really, they're not interested in arguing. They're interested in silencing those who disagree because probably they know that they can't win the argument. And they almost look at argument and truth and logic as some kind of a hostile construct, a social construct, that they just, they don't want to have to deal with it. they feel that it's inherently against them. We're living in dramatically strange times. Well, we really are. And we need to see more Christian leaders and pastors speaking out and just telling the truth. But there seems to be a lack of courage. And again, that's one of the things I want to talk about is America is declining. And it's really because the Christian church is not standing up

and just defending basic truths. And what I think the book will show people, there is a way to find out what is true or at least search for it in a way that gives you more confidence in what you believe. So again, I know I've been around a long time. A lot of folks who say they're Christians or people of faith don't know the Bible very well,

so they really don't know the truth and they're not very free. So I want to start the discussion. I've been in politics, Eric, for 20 years here, and I just see something happening that is not going to be fixed with political answers. Most of what we deal with in Washington are just symptoms of problems. And it's time that we look at the real foundations. So we need the country to come together and discuss this and have a debate, not to push any theology on people, but to recognize where this country came from. and hopefully restore some of those foundations of truth.

I don't know if I've ever sent you a copy of my book, If You Can Keep It, the Forgotten Promise of American Liberty. But I really wrestled with this. Originally, I guess it was Oz Guinness that got me thinking about some of these things. And I put it in my book, If You Can Keep It. And I was simply astonished at what I didn't know. And I wanted to, you know, to tell the world that you cannot separate faith and freedom. When we come back, we'll talk more with Senator Jim DeMint.

The book is Satan's. dare a novel, don't go away. Folks, I'm talking to Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina. The book is Satan's Dare. It is a novel. Senator, you talk about the real core issue is a lack of courage on the part of pastors in America to speak the truth. They seem to have drunk a little bit of the Kool-Aid and they feel that the truth is divisive, so we're not going to get into that. And of course, you can be merely incendiary, but there is a time to speak truth, even if it's going to ruffle some feathers. What do you think can account for that, for some leading figures in big churches around the country being so quiet on important things? Well, it's a great question. And I know a couple of,

I mean, almost 20 years ago, my wife and I visited a church when we were on vacation, and it was Easter Sunday. And the pastor got up and talked about the miraculous resurrection of Jesus and then said how incredible it actually was. But it's hard to believe, he said. But even if it's not true, it's only important that you believe it. This came from a Presbyterian church. But it was a lot like we heard from the new senator from Georgia, who himself is a pastor this last Easter. He said, Easter is much bigger than the ascension of Christ that we save ourselves by serving others. I mean, this was a Christian pastor. And that's, there couldn't be anything that's more anti-Christian or illogical than that because- Well, you've got to understand, forgive me,

but you've got to understand he went to Union Theological Seminary here in New York City, a couple of miles from where I'm sitting. Union Theological Seminary was off the rails Theologically, when Bonhofer attended as a 24 and 25-year-old in 1930 and 31. They have been theologically off the rails for 90 years. So the idea that the man who is now ostensibly the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church, where Dr. King was pastor, that he could espouse these views. I mean, I think when you say Christian, it's kind of like calling Bruce Jenner a woman. I mean, if he wants to be called a Christian, I feel it's impala.

to say he's not. But I cannot imagine if you don't understand the centrality of the actual bodily resurrection, I don't know how you can possibly call yourself a Christian. It becomes pure silliness at that point. I don't know what it is that people are trying to put across. It seems crazy to me. Yeah, I don't even know why they bother to say they are or call themselves a reverent. And again, we don't want to be unkind to anyone. But what we do need to do is challenge, you know, maybe it's a remnant, maybe it's a small group, a Gideon group, but we just need to challenge people to come together. And one of the main themes of the book is the idea, Eric, that we are in effect believers are the body of Christ. And if you want to know why there's evil in the world,

it's not that God is doing it. It's just that those of us or his body here are not lifting up his hands and holding up his hands, praying enough, praising enough, that what if the actual battle between good and evil rest in the hands of God's children in this world? We've got to do a lot more than we're doing now. And it almost has to be the truth. It's the same in the Old Testament with God's physical children. He doesn't do everything. He tells them to do it. And the results of the fight depend on whether or not they're faithful, but he fights for them. So that may seem a lot in the weeds to some folks, but there's a purpose for the body of Christ in this world. And it's not just to run for political office. It's much bigger than that.

And so those are the kind of things I think we need to talk about is what is our role? Does prayer really make a difference? And when we praise God, despite suffering, are we proving Satan wrong? I think that's a big deal. I'm always fascinated when people shrink from a battle that has come to them. I mean, when somebody says to you, you've got to put, you know, BLM on a flag outside of your church, or you've got to put a rainbow flag outside of your church, I think it's strange how quickly many American Christians simply say, okay, they're not willing. There are people all across this world dying for their faith every day. Yeah. And we're willing to, we're unwilling, it seems to have somebody cock and eyebrow at us, much less a gun. And that is, you know, it's a staggering

indictment, you're talking about it, but many evangelicals today are going along with critical race theory, with BLM. These are openly Marxist, atheistic ideologies. And even evangelicals are unwilling to take a stand against critical race theory or Black Lives Matter ideology. That to me kind of says it all. If you say, what happened in Germany? Well, what happened is exactly what is happening to the church today. You're right. And America, was basically built on the courage of pastors and the revival that preceded the war of independence. And so we would not have had a war of independence without the revival. That was led by pastors. And many of the pastors, as you know, the story took off their robes and grabbed their rabbit rifles and went out and fought for freedom.

We need that kind of courage again in the church. And there is at certain levels. But a lot of the mainstream denominations are as progressive as any leftist we see in Washington now. And so those of us who really are searching for truth need to stand up. And it may just be a small group, but God doesn't need a majority. That's a good way of putting it. I think that the mainstream denominations were lost a long time ago, but the evangelical churches that have gone wobbly, that's what's newsy to me, or even Christian colleges that you thought you could depend on them to hold the line. They really seem to have drunk this kind of critically, a cultural Marxist Kool-Aid. And I just think it's important for folks like you to talk about this.

So I'm grateful to you, grateful to you for writing a book. What made you decide to write a novel? You said you wanted to write this book a long time ago, but not as a novel. You're saying it was the publisher that persuaded you? Well, I've got a great editor, Gary Tereshito. He's actually got a publishing company with Ali North. And he's probably the only one who'd work with me on this. But just trying to explain these different concepts were just got kind of thick and hard to read. And also it was hard to relate to it as a person. I think just developing these characters and I almost feel like they're part of my family now. you know what it's like to write a book. And when you get to the end, you feel like you've lost

your family for a while. But just for them living it out and the questions they ask and the struggles they have, it makes it, I think, a lot more realistic because there's nothing pretty about what most of us go through in this life. And if we think God is doing that to us, we don't understand the truth of the Bible. But it may very well be just as with Job that God, because of justice has to let Satan sift us, as Jesus said to Peter. We're going to have to end it there. Senator Jim DeMint, very grateful for you and for the book Satan's Dare. Congratulations and thanks for your time. Can't wait to read your new book, too. Welcome back. Alvin, I've got a question for you. Yes, sir. I've noticed that my hair is starting to

thin badly, and I want to know what's your secret. How have you dealt with this tradition? Well, in about a week you're going to look like this. I'm just going to tell you. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting hair plugs. There's no way I'm going to let that happen. That's not right. Chris is intermediate. Chris is what you're going to look like in three days, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's not the worst thing in the world. If the fake president of the United States could get hair plugs 35 years ago, I'm going to get hair plugs. Why shouldn't I? Why shouldn't I? I'm good. I got hair plugs. This is what happened when I got really? They didn't take? Backfired.

it's yeah it's really a problem all right well uh stay tuned folks stay tuned we we should talk about um the uh there was a headline this morning that the the NBA's ratings are tanking yeah why because they've gone woke it's kind of amazing even Sports Illustrated has gone woke and it seems like everything is being ruined but you know what the cool thing is It tells you that all of this stuff in the culture, it was always leaning that way. But now, I don't know what happened. Maybe Trump did it. They just got spooked.

They're out of the bushes. You can see them for what they are. And I really believe that this is a reordering going on in our society. And it's important for us, I always say this, to vote, not just in the voting booth, because those votes don't count anymore, but to vote with your money, with your eyes, balls. When you say, you know, I am not going to buy another Coke product because they've gone woke. They have, they want to play that game. I will get Pepsi all day long. If I have to do anything, I will drink, I will drink water if I have to. I will not buy another Coke product.

Same with Nike. And when it comes to some of these institutions like the NBA or the Major League Baseball, when they decide to go woke, they're going to pay a price. But folks, they really should pay a price. And so I want to say it makes me happy that the NBA's ratings are in the tank. The PGA's ratings are above the NBA. That's funny to me. That's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's a big ball. People are going for the little ball now, not the big ball. It's, it's, yes, exactly what everybody was thinking. That's what's all about. So, so Albin, um, so you're telling me I should get plugs, hair plugs, please, I'm thinking, I think I need to get hair plugs. Listen, speaking of hair plugs,

um, remember the election we had a few months ago? What? There was a letter. It was fake. Mike Lindell, he's proved it to me. He just hasn't proved to the Supreme Court because they're afraid to look through the telescopes. But I got to tell you that, honestly, it's comedy to me that we're in a state where most of the country or half the country roughly knows the election was not. There was something fishy, right?

And I still believe this information is going to come out. I think a lot of things are coming to light. And this is, it's in God. hands. I don't really think that it's possible for us to function as a society anymore unless God intervenes. But the good news is God does intervene. So I'm excited about that. And Mike Lindell is a hero. We've had him on this program many times. He's standing behind me in two glorious dimensions. And he's exhorting you, the viewer, or the listener, to go to Mypillow.com and to use the code Eric. And most of my books are at MyStore.com. If you

use the code Eric. But you know what, Albin, we're going to get more products at my store.com because I want to give people an opportunity not to shop at some of these other albums. Don't forget, don't forget Neutrametics. Who? Who is that? Oh, come on. Oh, Neutrametics.com.

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Maybe they've run out of the Arctic krill. A lot of great stuff. Go to nutrometics.com. You really do want to check it out and see my interview with Tim Eaton, which we posted on YouTube. It's pretty amazing, amazing company. We're out of time.