The Eric Metaxas Show - Shane Winnings

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

The Chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers joins the program 

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Hey there, folks. It falls to me now to introduce my next guest, Shane Winnings. That's his real name. Shane Winnings. He is the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers. He's been on here before. Shane, welcome back. Hey, thanks for having me.

How come you get a cool name like Shane Winnings? That's like a stage name. Isn't it you were born with a stage name? Yeah, I got to thank my parents for that one. But I'll tell you what, I lost a wrestling match in high school, and my coach said good job losings. So, you know, it has come back to bite me at one point. That can happen.

I still think it's, you know, it's better than Bert McGillicuddy. That would be a name you'd want to change to Shane winnings. So congratulations. May I'm having a great name. Now, listen, we've got to talk about some serious stuff. I keep saying that it's not enough that we reelected Donald Trump. It is vital that we did that. It's vital that we drain the swamp in Washington and on and on and on.

But now we, the people, have to turn to the culture. The culture is, it's been moving in the wrong direction for 60 plus years. And some of the fruit of that we're seeing right now, the almost horrible stuff imaginable. You posted something about there's a production of Jesus Christ Superstar being put up at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm not sure when that is happening. Yeah, I know it's coming up soon, I believe, but they casted a gay black female to play Jesus Christ. And I mean, gay black female. So there's three reasons right there that she doesn't fit the role.

You know, and I get. Well, now, actually, this is interesting, right? because I would have no problem. We always have to go to motive. Why would they do that? Right. Now, to tell us someone who is black, a black man, I don't really have a problem with that in a way.

Sort of like you're making kind of a, in some ways, a valuable point. Jesus is for everyone. But what happens when you say, oh, Jesus is a woman? That's a different thing. It's a different thing because Jesus, Jesus was a man and maybe Jesus wasn't a black man but I wouldn't be offended by that

some people maybe would be that I don't know what the issue is there but to say that it could be a woman that right there you say well not really like that's now you have a deeper problem because

Jesus was a man to Abba Fah He prayed. There's something there. A line is being crossed. But then when you say, oh, and by the way, she's a lesbian, you kind of think, like, well, now where are we going with this? So what it really reveals to me, and I'm curious if you, if you, it's your response, this is cultural Marxism. They want to say, in terms of intersectionality, we have all the categories of the oppressed, the woman. woman of color. There's two and three, the, you know, lesbian, whatever it is. So all these categories of this oppressed person. And you realize that the left and the left in the church, they really become addicted to this way of seeing things. Right. So it's, it's kind of bizarre to me. I mean, it's, yeah, I agree. And I think it's totally intentional. And like you said, you got to look at the motive. And what is the motive that's been pushed? You know,

what's the agenda that's been pushed? And it's that, you know, the whole gender thing and everything is gay and, you know, and then you got to, you got to top it off with like, she's black. And again, well, Jesus wasn't white either. So that's where I fall. I'm like, I think it's wrong if he's cast as white. It's technically wrong if he's cast as he wasn't African American. You know, he's from the Middle East. So he would have looked something in between. But I think, like you said, when you put all of it together, it truly is like they're sitting down and they're saying, how can we deconstruct who Jesus actually was in every single area? Because if we can begin to push the limits in regard to his gender, in regard to his race, in regard to his sexuality,

well, you know, we're creating these false Christ that Paul warns about in many of his letters. To me, it's just, it's sort of all about marketing. They're trying to be edgy. Hollywood would always does this. They don't really care if it's right or wrong. They just want to be edgy. They want to push boundaries. So years ago, you know, casting Jesus as black would have been really edgy. But now they've got to go way farther.

Casting Jesus as a woman. And you think, well, that's just it's, I don't think that they're quite aware of it. But it is very confusing. To some extent they are aware. It's deliberately confusing. It's deliberately confusing the idea of who Jesus was and what he stands for. They're doing that deliberately. And again, the lesbian thing, that's the clearest crossing of a line.

They're saying, there's nothing you can do about your sexuality. That's who you are. And that's how God made you. And Christians say, no, if that's a choice you want to make, that's fine. It's a free country. But don't pretend that God made you that way. The Bible doesn't say that God makes you that way. but they're insisting that he does.

And there are many Christians, many evangelical Christians that have been dramatically confused on this very issue. Well, I'll tell you what. One, they've never found a gay gene. So there's that. But two, even if for argument's sake, you were born that way. Well, the wonderful thing about Christianity

is you're called to be born again. So even if you're born that way, you're called to be born again. And a Christian is a brand new creation. That's the same word that was used in Genesis. something that's never existed before. So when you get born again, say that you believe you were born gay, well, now you're a Christian and you're born again.

You have new life. So there's that issue. But to me, you know, imagine if they casted someone for the role of George Washington and it was a gay black woman. You would go, this is historically inaccurate. Like, what are you trying to do here? Well, Jesus Christ is as real as George Washington was. So I think even from a historical standpoint, it's like you guys are way off base here.

And it would be ridiculous to try to push an agenda that George Washington was a lesbian black woman. But why is it somewhat acceptable when it comes to Jesus Christ? You know, they're not going to do this about Muhammad or anyone else. But it's always the Christians that end up facing persecution. And unfortunately, we're seeing this on the other side of the globe with Christians being crucified, Christians being beheaded. I mean, it's horrific what's happening, and it's not really getting a lot of mainstream coverage. So I think from nasty names to, you know, misrepresenting our Savior to actually killing Christians. Christians are under fire right now.

It is interesting how you're seeing a level of explicit evil in the world. I mean, ladies and gentlemen, you know, there's levels here. What's happening at the Hollywood Bowl with a lesbian woman being cast as Jesus, that's one. level that's very mild. You're seeing the murder, the torture murder of Christians in Syria. And then you're seeing the mainstream media not

give a darn about what ought to be front page above the full news. Fox News as of today, we're recording this, has not mentioned one word. Fox

News, ladies and gentlemen, you can, you know, Kvetch all you want, about NBC, ABC, CBS. Fox News on their homepage, FoxNews.com, not one word as of today when we're recording this. I'm not sure we're not going to air this today. But this has been going on and on and on, not one word from Fox News. That's unbelievable to me. Yeah, and it's breaking. And I mean, we're not talking about 10 or 20 Christians, which is still a big deal. We're talking about, I just read a report that said 785 Christians in the last 48 hours, and now we're up to a total of

2000. And one man, the jihadist just posted video, they were crucifying him and then they shot him. And it's like, how was this not getting any coverage? If this was any other people group, God forbid it was, you know, anyone in the LGTVQ movement. Imagine if 2000 LGTBQ were dragged out and crucified. I mean, it would be, there would be riots everywhere. but when it's Christians, it's not seen as legitimate. And I just, I do understand from a biblical sense because the Bible says, you know,

you're going to speak and they're not going to understand you. They're not of the same spirit. But even in my flesh, it's, it makes you frustrated because you're like, dude, these are people literally losing their lives in a brutal way. Folks, we'll be right back talking to Shane Winnings. Numbers don't lie. The impact that balance in nature makes every single day is astounding. You can see the numbers for yourself.

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A lot to talk about. We're talking about what's going on in the culture. We were talking just a moment ago about the murder of many, many, many Christians in Syria. Now, we have to review folks the deep state idiots, the rhino idiots who thought, oh, let's get rid of this dictator Assad, just kind of like, let's get rid of this dictator Assad, just kind of like, let's get rid of this dictator Saddam Hussein, they're bad. Yeah, they're very bad. But infinitely worse is when you get rid of them, what comes in. So what has come in is satanic, sadistic, radical Muslims who butcher Christians with impunity. That's what's happening right now. So this real evil in the world, this ought to be a bracing thing for us.

and it gives us an opportunity to see what's the response to it. And we were just talking about the media doesn't seem to be interested in this. They're interested in every stupid thing. All you have to do is go to foxnews.com. Look at the garbage on their homepage. There's a couple of articles, but it's a lot of clickbait garbage. Not one word about the massacre. I mean, you talk about genocide.

People throw these words around. What's going on there? It's absolutely unbelievable. And I wanted to touch on this, Shane. A little while ago, Bernie Sanders had a rally. Someone at the rally, I guess somebody who identifies as a trans, blah, blah, singer, performed the most blasphemous, foul, cornographic against God and Jesus song imaginable. I think if you ambitiously tried to do something more demonic, you couldn't do it. It was the most foul thing.

This is what the Democrats put up. This isn't some weird thing that happened on the internet. Bernie Sanders, senator, U.S. Senator, approved of this, thanked the singer. It is, to me, it keeps bringing up this issue of if you didn't really know what to believe, and you looked at that, you'd say, if they're on the right side of things, why would they do that? Why would they do something that seems satanic? It's just a fascinating cultural moment to see the evilness of evil in a way none of us in our lifetimes has ever seen. Yeah, and it's so vulgar, it's foul, it's not even just like some anti-Christian rhetoric. I mean, it is,

I saw that, the article in the video that you referred to, it is also just so foul and vulgar. And I think that alone, why would someone holding a U.S. political, seat sign off on that. Why would, and why would you platform that in the fashion you did? It's not like he retweeted something. I mean, this was at his rally. And people say it all the time, but like when someone shows you who they are, you should believe them. And we saw this from the left during, you know, the DNC when they had the abortion van out front and the vasectomy van. And, you know, they ran a campaign on everything that God hates. And I'm at this point where it's like, this isn't political anymore. This is straight up.

up evil. It's in your face. And at this point, you know, there's those who are blind and there's those who are choosing to look away. But we've got to have people who are willing to say, look, this is inherently evil. Even if you're not a Christian, the things that that person was saying, I don't even know what their gender is, were despicable. And we should be disgusted. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I think what's happening right now, Christians have to be much bolder. And there are a lot of Christians, they still want to pretend like, oh, I don't know, it's like 1985. And, you know, we can all get along. When somebody does something like this, I mean, I don't think they could do anything more provocative. Like I think they've gone as far as they can go. To me, the good news is it reveals

their desperation. There's a level of utter desperation on the secular left. And they are, they've given themselves over to the demonic. They didn't used to do that. They used to try to be reasonable. You know, when you think of Vietnam protests or whatever, it's interesting. When somebody has an important point to make, they don't go where these folks go. I mean, when you think of the civil rights movement, my goodness, think of the dignity. It bespeaks something beautiful. You look at it and you think they must have an important point because look at the dignity with which they are comporting themselves. And a lot of people's hearts were touched by that. This is the opposite of that. I think this is going to turn a lot of people away. I believe so too. I mean, it's like

reminiscent of things that people would do in high school and the edgy people, not even widely accepted, let alone someone who was holding some type of leadership position. But, you know, I think of even the presidential debate from the early 2000s where, you know, they would sit down at a table and they were having these conversations. And one of the candidates, I believe it was like a two-day thing or a two-part thing, he came back and he said, hey, before we get started, I just need to let you guys know, I misspoke yesterday. I stated a fact and it was it was factually incorrect, and I just want to correct that for the record, you don't see that anymore. You see people doubling down, they resort to name calling, deflecting. It's as if we have lost the ability to hold

reasonable conversations to actually debate. It's a lost art. And the people who do it and stick to the facts, you know, they're not seen as very popular because most Americans seem to be caught up with, well, I won't say most because the last election showed that that's not true. But a lot of Americans, many, including those in the church, we get caught up in the shiny thing. And so we're pulled over here with this stupid argument instead of staying on course. And so while we're getting distracted, the enemy has been advancing his campaign an inch out of time. And that's why we look up from 1985, 40 years later, we're nowhere close to where we used to be. And the limit of what's acceptable today, not even close to where it was 40 years ago. Well, it really is astonishing.

I think all of this, God and His Mercy, is using it to bring us back to basics to say, okay, we've gone way too far. We need to repeal the lunacy that we have allowed to come in, you know, through the sexual revolution, the breakdown of the family, the breakdown of every standard and everything. We need to go back. And that's part of the whole make America great again. You know, what were we doing right back then that we've ceased to do? We've drifted and drifted and drifted. Some of that has to do with government policies and laws. Some of it has to do.

A lot of it has to do with our mores and with the culture. And that's what you and I talk about a lot. What's going on with promise keepers? Tell us about that since you're the head of promisekeepers. Yeah, thanks for asking. So, you know, we're known for our men's conferences. We're going to be doing several conferences around the nation in the fall and winter. And so we're putting those out on our website at promisekeepers.org.

I'm actually about to begin a college tour. where I'm going to set up at campuses and, you know, I'm going to have a table and a, and a banner and ask the question, what is a man? And give people the opportunity to tell me what they think a man is, and ultimately prop me up to be able to explain what I believe a man is, and that's a godly man. And that's because in our society, and really in the church, there is not a lot of teaching on manhood. You know, even my boys' Bible study when I was in high school, it was just, men who studied the Bible together. It wasn't anything about actual manhood. So I'm hopeful that we can teach the next generation what it means to be a priest,

provider, and protector. So we've got those things going on. We're super excited to gather men together. We need it because the biggest combatant against Marxism is a strong American family, and the leader of those American families, by God's design, is a man. So that man needs to know what it means to lead. You know, it's interesting. This has been a big subject for me. We have Josh Hawley at Socrates in the City talking about his book on manhood. People can see that at Socrates in the city.com or on our YouTube page, if it's up yet, probably not up yet. But it's an important subject suddenly. I wrote a book, in fact, over 10 years ago, I realized this is a big issue. So I wrote a book called Seven Men and the Secret of Their Greatness.

Who are seven men that we could point to? And I wrote a sequel called Seven More Men to say, that is a life worthy of emulation, that is a man that somehow achieves a kind of greatness, which is really God's idea of greatness, because the world's idea of greatness is often wrong. It often can be toxic masculinity, or it can be lack of masculinity. God's standard of what a man can be. And it's going to be different for every man, but there are some basics. And so in the book, I have a chapter on George Washington. I have a chapter on Jackie Robinson, Dietrich Bonhofer, William Wilber for us, and others. And you realize that we need those models because the culture has given us bad models. You've got toxic masculinity like Andrew Tate, who's the biggest jerk on the planet. You have examples

of zero masculinity men. We need examples of masculine men. We've just got a minute. So keep going on this subject, if you would. Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I couldn't have said it better. I mean, sadly, I know a lot of young boys in the church, whether through groups that I help lead or whatever, and they find some things that Andrew says appealing. And the problem is he does say some things that could be helpful and effective. Excuse me. Hitler said some things that were exactly. Exactly. You know, and the devil will say something that are appealing. But, you know, yeah. But that's the problem. They latch on to the good and they're willing to overlook the bad. And I'm like, no, the bad that they're saying is decaying you from the inside. And that just reveals,

we need godly men to be the example. And if we don't speak out, then men like Andrew, Andrew Tate will continue to. And so I'm thankful for your voice as we keep preaching about what it means to be a biblical man. Yeah, well, that's beautiful. Well, Shane, just great to have you on. Congratulations on all you're doing. We'll get you back. We're always interested in the work of Promise Keepers. Thank you so much. Keep in touch with us. God bless you. We'll do. You too. My Pillow is having a huge sale on overstock clearance and brand new products. Right now you can save $40 on bed sheets in any size and color.

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Okay. So what exactly is the call to action? To renew and extend the Trump. tax cuts. For people that aren't following the news on this, I haven't really been covering this, what is going on? What do we need to know? What do we need to do? Yeah, you know, in the first Trump administration, one of the biggest wins for the American people was the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. We saw wild economic success as we brought down tax rates and pushed more money into the pockets of private citizens and businesses. And we lived under a great

amount of prosperity because of those tax cuts. The reality is, though, those were set to sunset, and they'll sunset this year if Congress doesn't act. And so we need Congress to continue the work that they've been doing for these first couple of months of the year and follow through to make sure that we make those tax cuts permanent so that our economy will continue to grow and thrive under this renewed vision for America, but also that individuals continue to, to, to experience that prosperity in their own homes and in their own lives. I mean, the reality is if these tax cuts expire, it will be the largest tax increase that we've seen in generations.

And the average family will be paying $1,500 to $2,500 more a year. I mean, we're concerned about the price of eggs and the price of fuel right now. That's before those tax increases would go into effect. we would continue to squeeze the pockets of the American people if those tax cuts were allowed to expire. So we need Congress to continue pushing forward, as they have been for these last two months, to make those tax cuts permanent. And so what's at stake specifically? I don't think there's anybody who listens to this program who would not agree that tax cuts are a good thing that you want to free up people's money.

It's good for the economy. We know the Democrats don't think that way. But what is it stake right now this week or tomorrow? Yeah, well, the big piece is we look at just the structure of Congress. We're obviously dealing with a very narrow majority in the House. We know that the path forward, if we go back to the first term of the Trump administration, these tax cuts were passed in reconciliation. We know that that's the path forward that Congress is going to,

to need to follow that same plan to make these tax cuts permanent. And so there's a number of steps. I mean, it gets into the weeds, but ultimately to move forward, to put together a reconciliation package that the president can sign and make these tax payments. Okay, Drew, we were just breaking up a little bit there because of the internet connection. So this is something that when is the vote going to be that people, where people need to contact their members of Congress?

Is that happening tomorrow? That's what I'm not clear on. Yeah, no, that's a perfect question. The reality is this is a process, and there are a number of votes that Congress is going to need to take. So the continuing resolution that passed to the House this week, that was one of the most important steps to move us closer. that reconciliation package. We need Americans to just continue to urge their members of Congress

to make those tax cuts permanent and to make that the number one priority of Washington right now. And I'm surprised that at least one Republican is refusing to go along with this. Yeah, there are really two different forms of opposition right now. We see the left trying to derail this entire process, quite frankly, because they see the momentum of the Trump administration and the moves that they're making. And this is an opportunity for them to just derail all of the progress of the Trump administration and the Republican majorities in Congress. You also have, you know, fairly some concern about the deficit and Republicans that want to make sure that we're monitoring and we're not continuing to dig ourselves a deeper hole. The reality is, though, we should not

force the American economy and American taxpayers to be hostages in this game because Congress can't balance a budget. The goal right now is to make those tax cuts permanent. And then we come back and we get serious about capturing the opportunity that Doge is presenting, that we're balancing the budget, that we're eliminating that waste, fraud, and abuse, and that we're ultimately driving towards that balance budget. But step one, the first priority is make those tax cut permanent to unleash the prosperity that they offer for our economy and to make sure that Americans aren't facing a massive tax increase at the end of this year. The generation of kids in El Salvador are lost to malnutrition and the only way to a better

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Today, you have the power to feed a child or an entire classroom for a year. Please click the blue banner at metaxis talk.com or call 844-863-4673 with a gift of $100 to feed their future. Folks, welcome back. We have Drew Klein with Americans for Prosperity on the program. The Democrats are threatening to shut down the government. is that that's that's clearly the plan or their plan or their threat. Yeah.

You know, they have long believed that somehow politically they benefit from a government shutdown. And you see them pushing that direction right now. Nobody should want that. Now, listen, I believe in limited government. And so I appreciate the sentiment. But we need Congress to continue to function. We need them to fund the government. And we need them to stay focused on the work that they're doing.

The reality is allowing the government to shut down would simply derail the momentum that they have right now. And it seems to me that that you've been saying it, but just to clarify, that's their goal. They want to create, they don't just want to shut down. They don't just want to stop the momentum. They want to create chaos in a way to add to the sense of urgency. and they, it's interesting because that's kind of a big way that they operate. They make everything hysterical and chaotic. And then they kind of blame it on President Trump.

That's exactly right. But it's important with the narrow majority that we have in Congress, we obviously, we saw the title wave last November. We heard the American people loud and clear, but we have a very narrow majority in the U.S. House. And so we need them to stay singularly focused on the mission at hand. make those tax cuts permanent, start to deliver real affordability to Americans around this country. That's what they were concerned about last November. It's what they're still concerned about today.

They have to stay focused. The left, I think, is trying desperately to distract them with all of the other things going on. And shutting down the government would be a huge win for them simply because it derails that momentum. Congress and the Republicans there have to stay focused. And I know that the Democrats have actually said that they, they feel that they have a mandate, this is hilarious, a mandate to shut down the government, what in the world would give them that idea? I know MSNBC is pushing that. They're just pushing these points that make no sense. Where would they get the idea that they have a mandate to shut down the government? Yeah, well, I don't think it'll be a surprise to any of your listeners

that they're often confused at the message that Americans are sending them. I think that's a perfect example of that. You know, we've continued to host events and town halls with members around the country, especially those Republican members and the constituents that they're hearing from, they're sending a very different message. And that is that we need Washington to get out of the way. We want to restore fiscal sanity. We want an economy that works for the American people. And that is what we're continuing to drive on. I mean, we hear from, you know, we did an event with Speaker Johnson here in D.C. just a couple of weeks ago, and he got to hear from some of those business owners as well on what the benefits of the Trump tax cuts were when they passed back in

2017 and how devastating it would be if those tax cuts went away and they had to live under a massive tax increase. Speaker Johnson's on board. Republican leadership and the Senate is on board. This is obviously a big priority for the Trump administration, and it's our number one priority. We need Americans to continue to encourage their members to move forward. and make this their priority as well. Okay. And what's the website for Americans for Prosperity? Yeah, absolutely. Just go to Americansforprosperity.org, regardless of where you live in the country, click, take action, reach out to your member of Congress.

This is the biggest fight on our hands right now. Okay. There's a lot of going on, but we need Americans to weigh in on these tax cuts. Okay, folks, please do that. Go to Americansforprosperity.org. Americans for Prosperity.org. Drew Klein, thank you. Thanks so much. As you know, we're doing a fundraiser with food for the poor, and we're asking everyone who listens to this program to participate.

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They're feeding hungry children. children in, in this case, El Salvador, who are suffering for malnutrition. And we are commanded in the scriptures to help the poorest of the poor, the least of these, in Jesus' words, in Matthew, the least of these. This is a way to do it. Food for the poor is asking for $100, which feeds a kid for a year, for a year. That's every $100. So if you can do $50, it feeds a kid for six months, you can do the math.

Some people can do a lot more than $100. And I want to go out on a limb again. I do this with every campaign. If there is anybody out there who can give a $15,000 gift, now that's a huge thing. That's a very big deal, okay, that would feed 150 children for a year. but I know there's folks who listen to this program who can do that. It's tax deductible. It's a great cause, great organization, food for the poor.

Anybody who can do that, I will make myself available to have dinner with you. We always work it out, whether in New York or in your neck of the woods, because I travel a lot, that I would make myself available for an evening. We can spend the evening together, whether you want to do it just with, you and your spouse and me and Suzanne or whatever, whoever is traveling with me. Or if you want to put together a group of, you know, 20 people and a big restaurant, that's all on you. You're paying for the dinner.

But I give my time. If there's anybody willing to give $15,000 to this great cause, I say, well, then I'm going to give my time. I'm going to give an evening of my time. My time has become outrageously valuable. So I just want you to know it's a sacrifice for me. But I do it because I believe in these organizations. organizations and these causes, food for the poor doesn't get better than food for the poor.

They're feeding the poor. We've talked about a lot on this program, but the website to go to is metaxis talk.com. You'll see at the top of the page, there's a banner there, metaxis talk.com. I hope you will go there. I believe there's a phone number, which it's not in front of me right now. Yes, it is. I just found it. If you prefer to call, dial 844-863-4673, 844-8663, 84673, 844-8663, 4-6-7-3. It is important that everybody participate. So whatever level you participate on, that's on you. But if you listen to this program, we're asking you to help us out.

This is something that we really believe in, and I just think it's important. It will make you feel good because there's a lot of evil in the world. Folks, a lot of news to share right now. Okay, real quick. Remember, I was telling everybody to boycott Target because of what they did. You know the whole story. I think it's time to reverse engines. Target, you need to reward people when they do the right thing. Target made a huge decision to blow off their whole DEI thing, which is amazing that on a corporate level, a company that's been sort of progressive would totally change their tune and say, we are no longer going to play the DEI game. That is big news. They are being boycotted by all kinds of radical Marxists. There's some insane leftist mega church pastor calling for a boycott on Target. I am here to say we should reward them. When somebody totally changes their tune, we need to reward them. So I am today going to buy a TV at Target. Not making that up. I've got to get a TV for my mom. I'm going to do it at Target today. We need to reward them. God bless them for changing what they've done.

By the way, I wanted to talk more about, you know, Donald Trump's ultimatum in Israel. It's just amazing. The evilness of Hamas, I can't talk about it because I get so upset. But I wanted to say that portions of this program are sponsored by the Israeli Ministry of Tourism on behalf of the government of Israel. But that's not why I talk about Israel. I just want to mention that. But I'm asking you specifically to visit goisrael.com. for more info on visiting Israel.

Obviously now is not the perfect time to go, but to think about it, everyone I talked to who's been to Israel, they all say the same thing. It's like funny. They go, oh, it was life changing. It was life changing because that's where it all went down. That's where it actually happened. And when you see those things, I was just there briefly a number of years ago, I guess was seven years ago.

And even though it was there briefly, I was moved to tears by realizing that Jesus walked here. And so it's a life-changing event for everyone I've talked to. So it's important that we stand with Israel and pray that the horror is going over there and soon. So I look forward to going back there when I can. In the meantime, visit go-israel.com for more information. Also wanted to mention that we talk about education a lot on the program and how our nation's public schools have been taken over by lunatic ideologues, you know, just like corporate America. I was saying like Target, well, Target has reversed course. We need to take back our schools as well, which is why I'm

exhorting you to visit our friends at the Herzog Foundation, herdsugfoundation.com. They are the trusted source on American K-12 private education. They have a remarkable suite of free resources for parents and grandparents thinking about making the switch from public schools to a Christian education or to homeschooling, which is the best of the best. They have an online publication, the lion, sorry, you can go to readdlion.com, R-E-A-D-L-I-O-N dot com. They have a podcast called Making the Leap. These guys are heroes, folks.

If you've encountered them, you already know they're on the same page as we. And I want to say that it's important that we're aware of them. And again, they're there to help. Herzog, Foundation.com. Before we end our one, I want to mention that we've got a lot of Socrates and the stuff, Socrates and the city stuff coming up. I've done a whole bunch of Socrates and City interviews in London. We're going to be airing those soon. One is with Ion, Hersey, Ali, buckle your seatbelt. So that's going to be all on. Go to Socrates in the city.com. Sign up for

Socrates Plus on our YouTube page. Most of the stuff is available. We're doing an event in Lexington, Kentucky with Hillsdale President Larry Arne. Very excited about that. that that's April 16th, Palm Beach, March 21st. I'm going to view Senator, Senator Josh Hawley, but there's so much stuff at the Socrates and the city website. And then finally, plug for my store.com. You can get most of my books and especially the Donald, the caveman books at my store.com. Be sure you use the code Eric at my store.com. Donald drains the swamp is there waiting for you. Donald drains the swamp. Discount code Eric at my store.com.

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