The Eric Metaxas Show - Steve Deace

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Talk Show host Steve Deace joins Eric From NRB.

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I just thought it was unbelievable. Yeah, it was unbelievable. I mean, I think I spent, I watched the highlights and then I think I spent more time looking at the reaction and the memes. It's almost. It was all highlights. Yeah, it was all amazing. The wall highlights. I'm sending out an email today to the list or whatever, to my email list, Ericmataxis.com. And that's a good time to remind you, folks. If you're not on that list, Ericmataxis.com, the emails, now about twice a week, we're sending out an email. as links to all the videos of all the interviews that I'm doing in case you're missing some of them, I'm sure you are, and all kinds of other stuff. So that's Eric Mataxis.com. If you click on it, you can sign up for the newsletter. But the speech yesterday, it was absolutely unlike anything we've seen. I mean, I've lived a long time. I've watched a lot of State of the Union speeches. And I remember when Obama was president at the end of his term, he was challenged.

Someone in some congressman said, like, you lie or something like that. And people acted like a mushroom cloud came over, Washington, D.C. It was like, oh, my God, how dare you interrupt the president? This is a bipartisan moment. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, what we saw yesterday, the Democrats, I mean, there's a few headlines here. But one of those is, which I'll get to in a moment, and we'll talk. By the way, we're going to bring on Kevin McCullough to discuss this.

He's our go-to guy on this stuff. So he'll come on the next segment. But the bitterness, the petulance, the childishness of the Democrats has just gone through the roof. I never thought in my life I would see adults, elected representatives sitting in the chamber, acting like children. I mean, it's unbelievable, frankly. They were holding up. Well, you remember when Nancy Pelosi ripped up the speech behind Trump? And it's like it's so satisfying because Trump is literally ripping up Nancy Pelosi now with his speech.

That's the point is that they are apoplectic. There's a good word. They are apoplectic. They don't know what to do. They have painted themselves into a bitter corner. Donald Trump could say, I believe that America is a great nation. They would not applaud. He could say anything.

They painted themselves into a corner, bitter hatred of Donald Trump. That's basically all that unites them. So yesterday, he played them by. saying all of this wonderful stuff, highlighting people in the gallery, a 13-year-old black kid who has survived brain cancer. This 13-year-old has more common sense than all the Democrats combined. They could not applaud when this 13-year-old who has been through hell is there with his father. He, I mean, it's such a moving thing.

the Democrats could not applaud him. They could not stand. They couldn't unite behind the idea that it's a beautiful moment for this 13-year-old kid who survived brain cancer to be saying. They could not applaud that. They could not applaud when Lake and Riley's mother, Lakin Riley murdered at age 22, murdered by a gang member, illegal alien gang member. her mother is there. Imagine what it's like for this mother and for the mother's other daughter was there. The Democrats couldn't applaud that. They couldn't. It is mind-bending stuff that Trump has driven them all insane. They've just gone insane. And they, I mean, when I saw this, I thought, this is so childish that it's comedic.

They were holding up little signs. It was just unbelievable little signs. Musk steals. Oh yeah, the richest man literally in the history of the world steals. Yeah, he needs to steal, like, obviously, according to them. He steals. The whole thing was just comedic, but I guess the most amazing thing to me was Trump is such a pro that he was like, it was like a cat playing with a mouse. The Democrats just played into his hands. You know, he would say something at some point, he brilliantly said all these people here, because this is my fifth time here, all these people here, no matter what I say, they will not applaud. They will not, you know. And it was, he sort of shamed them. And then a few times he called them out. At some point, he said something about liberal lunatic policies. And he point, he literally pointed at all of them. I mean, it was political theater. I knew that it was. I posted on Instagram. yesterday. It was, it was, it was just unbelievable. It was unbelievable. I can't wait to hear what Kevin has to say. Yeah, he literally called out Elizabeth Warren by her moniker Pocahontas, which was hilarious.

And it's funny, it's kind of, it's kind of like Ricky Gervais a few years ago. He says, because I just don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Trump doesn't care. It's like, what are you going to do that you haven't already done? What are you going to do if I call you Pocahontas? You're going to do something worse than you've already done? You're going to try to put me in jail? I think he tried that. How'd that work? At some point, he talks about the lawfare, the weaponization of the Department of Justice, and he says, you know, weaponizing it against their military, sorry, their political opponents. And he says, like me. And then he says, had that work out. And he goes, not too good, not too good. I mean, he is standing there like a colossus,

a political colossus. He's defeated all his enemies. And he is standing there. behind him, there's no Nancy Pelosi, you know, grinding her dentures. We have Speaker Johnson, we have J.D. Vance, both of whom could not stop grinning because the whole thing was so delightful. I mean, if there was a camera on me during this, be Suzanne and I were howling, howling with joy, because it's so that he would say one thing after the other and you would just howl for joy. It was absolutely unbelievable. And I think, it's safe to say we really have never seen anything like

this moment in political history. We have the greatest return political comeback in the history of the nation. There's nothing to compare to it, frankly. There's nothing to compare to it. And Trump has so

brilliantly marginalized the opposition that they will not applaud or stand for anything. I mean, you could say, it was very sweet when the boy got his honorary secret service badge. You know, he gave the guy a big hug. I mean, it was like to not clap and stand up for that,

you're, you know, you're clearly under some sort of spell. But I, they kind of are. They're kind of paralyzed by bitterness. They're just, again, it's a level of childish, petulant behavior. You know, I think of, what's a classical reference? Achilles in his tent, brooding. brooding because Agamemnon, you know, took his war concubine, brooding, bitter.

I didn't think I was going to go there, by the way. Didn't think I would be mentioning Homer. But you just try to think of what is the classic bitterness? You know, you think of Ahab in Moby Dick, just consumed with bitterness, consumed, obsessed, willing really to die in that state. Just not looking for any kind of redemption, any way out. When people say that the Democrats, they have to find a message. No, they don't.

They can't. There is no message. There is no message. He's right. We're wrong. That's the message. If you say that, you're getting a lot of people suddenly listening to you. Like, oh, really, you have the guts to admit that?

Okay. All right. If you have the guts to admit that tells me something about you, and I'm willing to hear more. They are not even close to that, and Trump was goading them. It's just, it was delightful. I don't know where we go from here.

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The point is I'm sitting here with Steve Dase. Steve, welcome back. Love what you do, what you stand for, and just good to see you in person. Good to see you, too, brother. How you been? I've been, other than this head cold, I've been fine, I think, you know, busy. and I see you're busy. You know, you're one of the very few people that I follow on Twitter on X

and just appreciate, you know, where you're coming from. I appreciate that. I'm not feeling is mutual. You know that, so thank you. It's great. So what's going on? What should we talk about? The country?

What can we talk about it? We can certainly get into that. It is. So you think Trump will get reelected? Actually, I'm waiting for him. We already know he's been reelected twice, but I'm waiting for him to troll. the lunatics by hinting at another term. I think he actually did the week ago, didn't he? Just to make their heads, the unexploded heads need to explode. And I think it's so funny. And it's like, hey, we can make a case.

FDR had four terms, ladies and gentlemen, you know, so hey. They should, the thing is, if this administration is successful, as we all hope, our enemies may actually prefer a third Trump term. Because the reason why would be you're looking at somebody who's younger and if we're being honest is probably more understanding of the philosophical stakes that we're playing for in this grand drama called Western civilization that Trump is more understanding. That is maybe more understanding philosophically than maybe somebody like Trump. Oh, I see what you're saying. You're talking about, I mean, imagine J.D., imagine Donald Trump basically operating as a

MacArthur in North Africa. all right controlling you know tank divisions and just wiping out all the pansers of the Nazis yeah and and and just when you think oh we got to he's gone and we're and we got to break now in comes cold calculating meta thinker Dwight Eisenhower to just finish you off in what's left of you because I think that jd vance represents something wow wow wow wow wow it's so interesting because you've been around long enough to know that whatever everybody's saying today may be completely untrue tomorrow. So the other day at CPAC, it's like, oh, this drop pole, 60% want JD Vance, but it's like, okay, but guess what? In 10 minutes or a year or two years, that could completely radically change.

Not that I wanted to, because I love JD Vance, but everything is so unpredictable. We just don't know anything. The one thing I think I'm certain of is this. And I've said this to my audience. I've said this to my friend Ron DeSantis and others that I know because I'm in Iowa and people are already making phone calls. That's the way our state works. Here's the reality of the situation. If Trump is successful, J.D. Vance is the crown prince and he will inherit the throne.

That's what Tucker Carlson said. He's assassination insurance, okay? Yeah. And he's already taking such a high-profile position, I mean, giving a keynote foreign policy speech on behalf of the administration in the first month. You have to explain because not everybody says politically. tuned in as you are, that level of engagement is dramatically atypical for a vice president. In history, vice presidents. Who said it, that the vice president is worth a bucket of warm spit?

Probably Lyndon Johnson or something. I remember Mike Puckabee told me once when he was on John McCain shortlist that the vice presidency was the one job nobody wants, and yet no one can also say no to. Of course, right. But it's so interesting because we have had, look, since Dick Cheney, too, since Dick Cheney, vice presidents have been more engaged. But for J.D. Vance the other day to give this speech in front of the EU, this was a really dramatic moment. Only presidents, in my recollection, have ever given speeches like that.

I thought it was a top three foreign policy speech by an administration in my lifetime. I put it just right behind, tear down this wall in 87. Yeah. And Trump's speech in Riyadh in 2017. And I think we both know that you, you just... don't, you don't, you don't, Trump does not give up the spotlight easily. You have to earn, you have to prove to him, you're more, you're worthy of the moment, okay? And so for him to hand the baton to JD this early on and say, you go reset the board in Europe and send the message,

I think that showed an incredible amount of confidence in his ability. But what's so interesting about Trump, because he's, he is so brilliant. That's, I just, I laugh because his delight at his brilliance. He's also thinking about the fact like, let JD take a little heat. He'll take a little heat off of He'll give the speech. Let Elon take a little heat. That's masterful thinking to say, I don't need to be the star of the show. And we can diversify a little bit here. There's genius in that.

It's also indicative of learning from past hiring failures and realizing that, yes, the job is too big ultimately for one man. And that was always one of the things I would push back on the cruise team in the first primary was the idea when I was on the cruise team. Well, we want a businessman to run America. And I was like, well, the one thing to keep in mind is the federal government is not like running Trump empire. Wait, I'm sorry, what do you mean the Cruz team? When I was on the cruise team in the 2016 election. Oh, I'm sorry, you're talking about the Ted Cruz. And you were working for Ted Cruz during that primary.

In the whatever, you were saying, because you wanted Ted Cruz to get the nomination, you were saying that Trump's casting things as a business. You were saying why that's not a good thing. Correct. Because the federal government is more like a corporation than running your own empire. And when Trump was running his own empire, ultimately the buck stopped with him. He could do whatever he wanted. And everybody had to, you can't do that with all these agencies. And so you've got to make sure you have the connections and the relationships to put your people that are loyal to you

and your agenda in these places as your proxy. And so there's no amorosis, there's no scaramuchis, there's none of that. You are seeing absolute major league professionals now this time. Most people listening are blessed enough not to even remember who the heck. Who the heck? Who the heck? Amarosa and Scaramucci. I mean, what a flaming jerk, Scaramucci. It's almost unbelievable to look back and to think that Trump was that naive. Because he's certainly not a naive person, but when it came to politics, wow, that was... And I think he also had to learn that there is no deal to cut with Democrats.

I think that he thought ultimately that a lot of their rhetoric was rhetoric and there was deals to be cut. And remember, he did offer him a deal with the dreamers and they shut the government. government down rather than take it because it wasn't enough amnesty? Well, that's like the PLO saying, no, we won't take your deal. Like when you're really a nasty ideologue, you don't want to give a millimeter to your enemy. And that's where they are. And it is interesting because I really, look, we all hoped that that might be possible.

But he was, he was naive about that. But you know what I know, and most people at this point know that because he was treated so extraordinarily despicably, it made. him the president that he is today. And we are now taking a flame thrower to the deep state. Whereas his second term, if he'd gotten in in 2020, it simply wouldn't have been like that. I mean, it would have been a lot better than 2016, but he would not have, he's spent four years in the wilderness preparing for this moment. 100% agree. Yeah. And I think, I think watching, seeing our so-called secret service, letting a flunky from the math club, Spider-Man in front of the entire Bethel Police Department and the secret

service to get a flush 500-yard or 150-yard face shot at a presidential candidate, and he only missed exploding his head on national TV because he turned his head one milliliter. Whatever remaining doubt you have at that point that maybe I misread that. Maybe these people can be reasonable. I think that was the last vertebrae that needed some steely resolve, and I think you're seeing that.

Wow. So do you, I mean, it's my belief that that how do we put this that wasn't just like oh they were incompetent I think that there was some design behind like we know there are lunatics who want to kill the president so we'll just step back a little bit and let one of those happen that seems to me you know so you have plausible deniability you know we don't know that they put them up to it

but they don't need to and the same thing with the next guy and what both of those guys in Black Rock videos yeah absolutely that's crazy And how's the second guy get Trump's private golfing schedule on a Sunday? Yeah. It wasn't on the public schedule. How did he know he was going to be there? Okay.

Steve, this is the joy of having somebody like you on the program. I can ask you questions that I don't know the answer to and you might know. Do you think we will get to the bottom of what you're talking about right now? You and I are both guessing that there were forces that conspired to murder this president. Do you think we'll get any information on this? I mean, because heads should roll, in this case, almost literally over this. I think, I don't want to betray any confidences. I will say this.

I had in the immediate aftermath of the assassination, my former colleague that I've known for many years, Dan Bongino and I, I had some private text with Dan Bongino, because he knows this way more than he. He's a former secret service agent. And I wanted to make sure I wasn't just way over the line. And, of course, now your audience knows he just got appointed deputy director of the FBI. I wanted to jump up and down. So did I. So did I.

So did I. I think whatever the odds were that we were going to get the information you want have increased with that announcement for sure. But isn't it amazing? And I think I've said this many times. It's like when we liberated the death

camps in 1945. The nightmare of what we discovered, it was too much for most people to take in. To process it. Millions have been systematically murdered, women, children, systematically murdered by, Western power. That can't be. That absolutely cannot be. And then we discovered, yes, it was. There's

this thing called satanic evil in world history. Here it is. I feel like we're at a moment where it's a similar thing. I think your average American is going to see things that you're going to reel. You cannot take it in that this is, you know, because it's one thing for it to be in the shadows and then suddenly it comes out. Okay, I'm talking to Steve Dease, D-E-A-C-E. Get it right. D-E-A-C-E. We'll be right back. is excited to announce that they're having the first ever mega sale on overstock clearance and brand new products. For example, you can save over 50% on this season's flannel sheets. The queen's size is only 5998 and King is only 6998. They sell out fast every year, so be sure to order now. You can also save 30% on their brand new My Crosses. They're designed in the

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about exciting stuff, the revelation of things that I think most of us in our lifetime kind of assumed it's just not going to come out. But we now know that a lot of it probably will come out. It's a stunning moment. It's unprecedented. And you know, Trump also likes kind of a team of rivals kind of a situation. survival of the fittest, pitting, you know, subordinates against each other to get the best out of them. And I bring that up because I don't know if you saw,

you know, I think it was Monday, Congresswoman Anna Paulina, who had been put in charge of some of these subcommittees, is putting Pam Bondi on blast. I noticed this this morning. So Pam Bondi said on Fox on Friday, she had the Epstein list right on her desk. And Anna Paulina's like, well, it's Tuesday morning,

where's the list? Okay. And I think that sort of dynamic where you have a meritocracy even internally, I think increases the odds of people, as Margaret Thatcher once said to George H.W. Bush, now is not the time to get wobbly, George? You know, I think...

How fitting that the Iron Lady would have said that to George H.W. Bush. Yes. Wow. Okay, but so I found that interesting when I read that. I guess it was Tuesday morning. I thought that's interesting. Here you have this like, you know, maga person challenging another mega person. Because, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

What do you think? I think all this stuff sounds great until you get in there. And then there's a lot of forces that will then come to you and say, are you sure you want to do this? What's your long-term prospects and things of that nature? And that's where I think pitting people's ambitions against one of another? It's similar to if you have a great athletic team, all right? I mean, practice should be harder than the games. I'm a huge Michigan fan. And, you know, when I was growing up, all the

Michigan players that paid for Bo Schembeckler would all tell you, when it got to game day, we were relieved. Practices were ruthless. Practices were cutthroat. Practices were cunning. It was every man's for, every man for himself. When we got to the games, we were elite. We were way less exhausted, way less sore after the games than we were during the week of practice. And to me, that is a healthy organization. They are ultimately our servants, even if they're on our side, Eric. And it's okay to pit him against each other to get the result that ultimately we want to have. I still cannot believe that I live to this moment where I talk about this a lot that I think a lot of times people think like, oh, things are pretty much always the same, the pendulum swings back and forth. That's garbage.

Like there was a day in history when Jesus appeared in history. Before that he didn't. Then he did. There was a day that a man was dead and then he was alive. Then he was alive. That either happened or there's stuff that happens that changes everything. The emergence of the United States into world history. There had never been anything like the United States. Nothing close in world history. Stuff happens, but we kind of forget. We're like, nah, things are pretty much the same.

No. And what we're living through right now is that level of, it's an epical change. We've never seen anything. Like the closest you could get probably is 1776, where you think, can this happen? Can we have this? it's like a new birth of freedom. And, you know, for Trump, again, if Trump had not lost, he didn't lose, but if he had in the election as far as I'm concerned, stolen in 2020, he would not be loaded for bear the

way he is. So he is a different man. And it's funny, too, because you're getting very few mean tweets. It's kind of like, I'm just doing the stuff. Like, here you go. I'm going to do this and this and this and this. It's just, there's comedy to it to watch. I mean, I was really concerned like, oh, you know, RFK Jr., will he?

get in, he probably won't get in. Will, you know, Cash Patel? Cash Patel? I don't see that. He's just way too radical. He believes too much in what we believe in. In fact, I thought that they maybe put all these guys up so that one of them would get thrown overboard so that the rest

of them could get confirmed. Like, I did not think they were going to, as Moses Malone once famously said, go foe, foe, foe, I didn't think they were going to do that, but they swept the board. So, I mean, that's also indicative of that there's a lot of Republicans like my Senator Joni Ernst, who we see her at a bike ride in Iowa once a year,

and then we have no idea what she's doing the other 11 months in 27 days. But there's a lot of Republicans like her. And so why are they all towing the line right now? Because they're looking at Donald Trump with a 52, 53, 55 percent approval rating. And I would argue that Trump has that rating because of what you just said, the ruthless efficiency by which he's governing, all right? and we're not chasing rainbows, we're not stepping on rakes, we're not doing the squirrels, okay? We're on target, we're on message.

As long as he stays there, his approval rating will stay positive. The minute that they sense that there's slippage in his approval rating, and they can cast him into lame duck status, we can never forget who most of the Republican Party Eric still is. And so, but I think the president understands this, that's why they're being so ruthlessly efficient. That's why they're attacking on so many different fronts because he understands I have momentum right now, and I'm going to seize as much of it as I can right now. Yeah, no, it really is unlike anything we've ever seen. I mean, if you just hear what Dan Bongino has said over the years,

you hear what Cash Patel has said of it. You think, that guy is the head of the FBI, that guy's deputy director of the FBI. Are you kidding? Really? Really? My lifetime, it's not a dream. It's not a movie? Yep. This is exciting.

I think our audience is, and I stress this to my audience this week, so if you don't mind, I'll let me stress this to yours. I want to make sure, especially the men in our audience, understand what Dan Bongino did by taking this. Dan Bongino oversees one of the most successful and lucrative shows and media empires that the right has ever had. He has to go dark on socials. He has to go dark on his show. I mean, he is setting, he already has a great platform to influence the debate.

He does not have to do this. That's mentioned he's got a nice house in Florida. Now he's going to spend all his time at Quantico, okay, and have winter again, okay? So Dan does not have to do this. He is setting aside a lot of comfort that he's earned. And he could justify it and say, hey, I'm still influencing the debate. I don't have to do this, okay? He set all of that aside to get in the fight on the front lines of this.

I think that's an incredible example for an era of manhood that has frankly been way too complacent. Yeah, and that's called loving your country and serving your country, ladies and gentlemen. Patriots have been doing it for two and a half centuries, giving their lives. Washington would have much preferred to be in Mount Vernon. but no, he gave us America instead. We'll be right back talking to Steve Dase. Welcome back. I'm at the NRB in Dallas talking to Steve Dase, D-E-A-C-E.

We're talking about what Trump has been able to achieve, and there are so many, it's almost unbelievable that he has sicked Elon on the federal government. This is the greatest partnership since John Lennon and Paul McCartney, brother. Just remember, though, the media is a lot of, operation Yoko Ono as we speak. They're going to do whatever they can to break that partnership up. It's so amazing.

They're screaming into the mics like Yoko Ono did during live sets. I mean, they're doing whatever they can, all right? Yoko. So I guess it's fascinating to just step back and watch what's happening. Now, we mentioned J.D. Vance a moment ago. He's another one. It's like, it's not just the cabinet, the vice president. When he gave that speech to the EU leaders, you know, a couple weeks ago, it was an astonishing

moment because all he's doing, and this is again, this is, again, This is the, we need more of this, and Trump has always been good about this. You simply state the facts and heads explode. And what is he saying? He's saying, hey, Europe, like we've been partners for a long time. You have drifted into satanic lunacy. Now, he didn't put it that way, but he basically says, like, we're not going to subsidize that crap. We will not subsidize your anti-free speech lunacy, your globalist lunacy.

So you want us to be partners? You want us to help you out. You need to get back to believe it. in some of the things we did. Now, in World War II, you know, the English didn't believe everything we did, but we were pretty much on the same page on a lot of stuff, our values.

And I thought, you know, that case needs to be made to everybody. And again, if you're talking about the elite media, they are similarly, you know, they're on board against all the American values. They love Europe and they hate Trump and they hate Middle America and they hate people who live in Iowa. And so I thought it was an astonishing thing for him,

to simply say like, you know, it's up to you. If you want to share our values and you want to start behaving like you care about freedom and the people in your name, then we can talk. But how extraordinary that we have a president administration bold enough to say what George Bush should have said 20 years ago? You remember the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson? Yeah. One of the great lines in the film when Mel is debating, because he was in the French and Indian wars, don't take war cavalierly, right? And so he's debating over whether or not to sign on to rebel against King George. He says, why would I trade one tyrant a thousand miles away for a thousand tyrants one mile away?

Meaning, how am I not so sure all of you aren't Little King George's here in South Carolina, right? That's kind of what has happened in our era. I mean, I got proffered by Russia today like a lot of other people did in conservative media. I turned all that down. I'm not a Putin shill. I don't think Putin is the reincarnation of Peter the Great. I also, though, don't think he's much of a threat to me. Putin did not tell me that I couldn't work without taking a genetic poison.

My own government did. Putin didn't shut down 10,000 small businesses during COVID. My own government did. Putin's not trying to limit my free speech, not trying to put people with my belief system in prison. My own government is. And so the reality is you and I, as born-again believers that believe in the foundations and inspirations that made this country, have almost nothing in common with Western Europe at all, other than we're white, other than our melanin.

levels. We have nothing or lack thereof. We have nothing in common with them. We have historical commonality, but it's gone completely away. And that's the whole thing. It's like we're just going to drift along and drift along. You're like, wait a minute, at some point, you change so dramatically that there's effectively no difference between you and Russia. Why do you care if Vladimir Putin runs Crimea or George Soros in the World Economic Forum does? Why do you care? That's Habsburg dynasty crap. Like, why do I care if Kaiser or his French cousin, or his French cousin, as the king is running the Sudetan land. Why do I care?

It's not my fight. I wasn't expecting anybody to use the word Sudetenland on this program. You're entitled to $20 in cash. Usually a duck comes down. What's the exchange rate for that in Sudetenland? Usually a duck comes down to the magic word of Sudatenland. Okay, so now what you're just talking about, it strikes me that there is tremendous hunger in Europe among the European populations. for what we have here.

And there's movement. Now, there was an election recently in Germany. There's stuff going on, Maloney in Italy. I guess the question, I was just at this ARC conference in Europe, and there was a lot of this kind of thing. And I guess the question is, do you think they can get some traction? They need leaders that give them agency.

There's a lot of energy in Europe, Eric, but there's not a lot of agency. The party system there, I mean, Romney is a member of the John Birch Society compared to what the so-called right is in much of Western Europe. That's right. It's essentially, do you want corporations, do you want corporate communism or total status communism?

That's the debate. All right. And so my fear is when you have this much energy and no agency, you get civil upheaval. Okay? Right. And that's where things can go nihilistic and dark real quick. And so they've got to figure out how they can get. And I think, you know, in many respects I looked at J.D.

given his speech, like Reagan saying, tear down this wall. He's essentially trying to give inspiration and people that stand up to be the next lequilesses and to be people of agency that are leaders that give people the voice they don't currently have before things descend into basically French Revolution-style nihilism.

And you and I both know being Christians that at the heart of all this stuff we talk about valuing is faith. In other words, you could not have had the United States of America. Somebody will always rule something must always be worshipped. Two undeniable metaphysical truths of

the universe, every culture, every custom, every era, those two things are facts. So I believe unless there's some kind of revival in Europe, it doesn't go. I mean, why did the French Revolution go in the direction it did? Precisely because they rejected faith. They rejected faith. And we had the miracle of religious liberty here. And so we didn't say, no, no, everybody has to go to the Catholic Church. And so it worked.

Obviously, Tokvill rights about this, but they haven't had that in Europe. And my question is whether they might. I mean, look, it would take a miracle, an historical miracle of God. But I just, I simply believe it's possible. I guess I have to say that. I think it's possible because of that. I mean, you and I have a worldview that begins with the premise that ultimately one day a sovereign God reached his hand into human history and raised himself a dead man to life, right?

And so therefore, we don't ever embrace nihilism. But the reality is, without that kind of providential act, then the, agency does not exist to capture that energy. That energy without the church, less than 2% of France is evangelical. Many of the old Catholic cathedrals are now mosques are emptied. So without the church, the best it can do is a French-style revolution of massive civil appeal. And the problem is if you go that road and you're unsuccessful, then the statist will grab even more power in that process. Well, I wanted to end on a positive note. I've failed. No, that's actually in a qualified way.

This is very, very exciting. So, Steve, thank you for your time. Thank you for your voice. We really are living in historic times, and it's one reason people ought to pray because it's the power of prayer that enabled us to save this republic and to keep saving it.

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