The Eric Metaxas Show - Steve Strang (Encore)

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

Steve Strang has a few thoughts about "God and Cancel Culture" and urges citizens to take a bold stand and pushback before it's too late. (Encore Presentation) ...

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Starting point is 00:00:10 the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. This is hour two, technically, but who cares? It's just the continuance of continuation, rather, of my conversation with Chris Reed, who's been chosen to succeed, to succeed Rick Joyner at Morning Star Ministries. Let me ask you, Chris, for folks that don't know anything about Morning Star, what is Morning Star Ministries? Morning Star Ministries was founded by Rick Joyner and his wife, Julie, back in the early 80s,
Starting point is 00:00:47 and it started off as a publication. And then over time, Rick began to write some books. You know, the Final Quest was probably his most popular, two trees in the garden. Final Quest was like one of the top sellers in the modern era. And it was prophetic. It was all a compiled set of dreams that is just a fantastic, incredible picture of, in fact, the times that we are living in right now. And so they ultimately assumed this property here in Fort Mill, South Carolina, that was built back in the 80s by Jim Baker. and of course they Morning Star and Rick Joyner purchased the property here back I believe it's in 2004
Starting point is 00:01:41 and Morning Star's been on the cusp I mean they've been one of the most I mean one of the leading prophetic voices in the broader charismatic movement and Rick is really a man of integrity he is without a doubt to me a prophet and he is an incredible author I'm actually here now this fall I'm going to be doing a school of the prophets and so of course we have a Bible college here a K through 12 just a lot of awesome things going on here and it's just a great place to be people have moved here from all over the nation in different parts of the world because they believe God is speaking from this place and I'm honored just to just to be a part well I'm thrilled you're there and I guess I want to so much I want to ask you
Starting point is 00:02:31 When we were in Kansas City, Mike Bickle gave a sermon, a teaching about the end times. And do you have a sense or does Rick have a sense of where we're going to be in the next 10 or 20 years? What does he say or what do you know that he says and that he's shared? So Rick has, I mean, this is well documented. Rick has been prophesying for a number of years that we are going to have another civil war here in America. And he's had various dreams at different times, but it's documented in history, you know, 20, 30 years. He's been saying this was coming. And the Lord began to show him back in the 80s that America would have a liberal president.
Starting point is 00:03:25 and then, you know, of course, Clinton came in office. He thought for sure that was him. Obama coming office. He thought for sure that was him. But then, you know, Biden and Harris are sitting in the Oval Office and basically in the dream, something would happen that would cause America to realize just how terrible Marxism is and that we would swing back to the right, never to go back to the left again.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. And so he believes right now we're on the precipice of perhaps it's already begun a civil war in this nation because our government, it's beyond fixing itself. Well, it seems to me that we're in a war. In other words, and it's a strange thing. I almost never say this. But when I was about 16, I had a kind of a knowing. It feels like a knowing from God in retrospect. about this, about a civil war, but that it would not be along geographical lines like the way the civil war was, but that it would be almost like the way cancer is that every cell is at war with every other cell, which is kind of what I see happening now. But we do seem to be at an impasse in the country, but it sounds like what Rick was saying is that it will come out well. I just don't know how bad it will get before it comes out well well things will get worse before they get better and it is a cultural civil war uh are we going to stay as the traditional america that we have been
Starting point is 00:05:07 you know judeo-christian values capitalism freedom of religion freedom of speech that type of thing or are we going to head more in a marxist direction and i think that is coming and has come to a head and I think that the 2020 election and all the fallout from that has really shown just how desperate and how close we are. We're already in it. And I definitely think that there is going to be, I don't want violence. I don't desire violence. But I think that we're going to see a actual civil war. I don't know exactly what it will look like, but I know it's going to be a culture war.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And Bob Jones, another prophetic voice, prophesied that the next revolutionary slash civil war would happen when they came for the guns. When they attacked the Second Amendment that that would trigger the Civil War into a whole new stage. And so, you know, I think that we need to be alert and awake now more than ever before. It's amazing stuff. And I think I want to remind my audience. the Lord is with us. Now, we don't need to be with him if we don't want, but he is with us if we choose to look to him in the midst of difficulty. So we're never supposed to fear. We're always supposed to look to God and be encouraged that he's with us and he created us for this hour, for this moment to live for him. Otherwise, it's very tempting to get caught up in the details and in the political part of it more than in looking at God in the middle of it. And as you know, I don't believe we ought to sit on our hands or just. pray, quote unquote, we have to be involved while we're praying and we need to pray while we're doing things. But people's hearts need to be right. And there's so many people that made an idol of
Starting point is 00:07:00 politics and they're just angry all the time. And you really can't do anything for God if you're walking around in anger. That's right. That's right. We have to make sure that, you know, we have to stay lit, a kindle of fire under us enough to not sit back and idly you know, just sit by and watch our America that we've known and loved be fully taken from us. But I think God is calling Martin Luther's and Bonhoeffers in this hour to rise up against political and spiritual corruption, which is ultimately the prophetic word I gave at IHOP in April that brought about the two weekends in July that you and I met. And so I think without a doubt, you're a key voice. and I think that that God is using you to bring about a real unification between the Christian community,
Starting point is 00:08:00 not just the charismatic Pentecostal world, but the Christian community with traditional conservatism, because there's no, there is no, this is no time for us to divide over the things that, that, that, that bring about our differences. we need to unite as traditional Americans who love our, love God, love our country, and we have far more to unite on than we do to let divide us. I genuinely didn't get what you just said until you just said it now, that I would be a voice in this. Talk about, we've just got a minute left, but about what happened in April that led to, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:43 just so people get that background before we go. So in November 2019, the Lord gave me a prophetic word regarding the future that when Prince Philip, Queen Elizabeth's husband, passed away, that it would be a prophetic timing indicator for the body of Christ. So the first day on April the 9th, when I am in Kansas City, I heard that morning Prince Philip passed. And sure enough, that was the same day that Bonhofer died. and then he was buried, Prince Philip, on April 17th, the new day, as they call it, in Great Britain, was April 18th, which of course is Martin Luther. These are two men that, of course, you have wrote about, who stood at the Diet of Worms, probably the most important, one of the most important days in church history when Luther stood up against the political and religious corruption. The fact that he, Prince Philip, died on April 9th and buried on 4th,000. 18 speaks to God is raising up in this hour. We have to go, but Chris Reid so grateful for you.
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Starting point is 00:10:57 I use it. It works. Cancel culture. They're both kind of important, but are they related? Yes, they are related. And you know how I know that? Because Stephen Strang, my friend, has written a book with the title, God and Cancel Culture. Stephen Strang, welcome. Thank you, Eric. I always enjoy being with you. enjoy being with you and you've written a this is an important thing because I think there are plenty of people who don't they they very sloppily push political stuff or cultural stuff away from theological
Starting point is 00:11:48 stuff they don't seem to understand that God wants to be in every single conversation we're having in the culture wherever so how are God for those people who aren't yet sold on this how are God and cancel culture related well you know you touched on it God is central to everything whether or not atheist or agnostics or just nominal Christians say so or not. And cancel culture has been going on for a long time. One of the best examples is the Romans tried to cancel Christianity in the first century and they failed and there are people trying to cancel God today. In fact, I make the argument in the book, God and cancel culture, that the real end result of all this cancellation, which has been going on for years, but it's gotten worse lately, is to try to cancel Christianity
Starting point is 00:12:35 and try to cancel the influence of God out of our culture. And the end result, I believe, is some kind of socialism, communism, and that at its base is atheistic, and they have to get God, they have to get Judeo-Christian values out of the culture and everything. And I cover the waterfront. I mean, there are many aspects to this from COVID to Twitter and to my pillow. I covered all. But I think it comes back to the fact that people are trying to cancel it.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Now, I have to be honest with my audience and say that I'm in this book, God and Cancel Culture. You wanted to interview me for the book. I completely forgot about that, to be honest. I mean, that was some time ago. But you talk about me in the book. I know you wrote an op-ed for the book in which you talk about me, and I'll put that out there for my audience. But this has certainly come for me, cancel culture. And I think there are two issues with how cancel culture is related to God.
Starting point is 00:13:35 One is explicitly that cancel culture seems to want to push Christian influence out of the public sphere. So we're talking really about cultural Marxism. But the other way is that cancel culture is anti-grace. If it's anti-God and anti-biblical, if it's pro-Marxist, it's anti-Grace. And so to cancel somebody is the opposite of saying that one sin you have that's covered by grace. and we're going to look at the good you've done. This is exactly the opposite. I don't know if you know, go into that,
Starting point is 00:14:10 but it strikes me that it's important for us to say that just the idea of canceling somebody is graceless. I agree with you entirely. In fact, the one thing about the left in the cancer culture crowd or wokeness, I mean, there's different ways to say it, is that there's no redemption. If you sin, according to what they say, there's no redemption.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's the opposite of Christianity. And one of the arguments that I make is right out of the Bible, the story about where the shepherd left the 99 and went after the one sheep. That's what Christianity is all about is actually the opposite of what communism or atheism is, where the 99 are important and sacrifice the one lost sheep. And, you know, these things intertwine. A lot of Christians know this, or at least they should know it. And as far as you being in the book, you're a big part of the book. I have an old chapter called It's Not Cancel Culture, it's Communism. And I tell your story, you know, which you told me, I already knew it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's why I reached out to you and the story of your own parents and how that has just set you on fire in terms of speaking up, in spite of the fact that they have painted a big bull's eye on your back and are aiming and shooting at you. You know, it's funny, Steve. and I realize that when you go through trials, it's a good thing because it wakes you up to, what do I really believe? I mean, do I really believe Jesus destroyed death on the cross? Did he actually destroy death? Because if he did, I shouldn't be afraid of death. I should be emboldened to live genuinely freely because I fear nothing except God. And I kind of think that when you go through the turmoil,
Starting point is 00:15:57 a lot of us have been going through as a result of this bizarre cancel culture, you just think, wait a minute, what kind of life was I living? Was I living in half measures? Am I willing to really believe what I say I believe? I mean, think how many people go to churches with crosses in that church. I mean, there are people all over this country, even mainline Protestants, Greek Orthodox, Catholics, whatever. So the question is, do you believe that Jesus defeated death
Starting point is 00:16:23 on the cross. If you did, you will push back against, because you won't be afraid, but there are a lot of people living in fear that they will get canceled. A lot of Christians. I mean, did you talk to Christians who aren't clear on this issue, or did the folks you reached out to, do they get this? Well, I mostly reached out to people who could help us know what's going on. But, you know, lukewarmness is, you know, how the Book of Revelation talk about the church in Laodicea. and so it's been around a long time. And we know that a lot of churches have been going liberal.
Starting point is 00:16:58 You know, this has been happening really for the last several centuries since the Reformation. And one of the things that's good about this, and as Christians, we believe the scripture, and one of the scriptures is all things work together for good to those who love the Lord. And I believe that one of the good things that's happening out of all the terrible things, and there are a lot of terrible things, is that people are doing exactly. exactly what you're saying, Eric. They're waking up. This is separating the sheep from the goat, so to speak. There are so many passive Christians, and I interview some pastors who just stayed out of the political thing. Hey, I don't want to offend anybody in my congregation. I may be a conservative,
Starting point is 00:17:40 and I believe in biblical values, but I don't want to speak up. Somebody will shoot at me. Some of these people like Rob McCoy in California, or Chey Ann in Pasadena or Greg Farrington up by Sacramento and there are just a few of many who have gotten spines of steel standing up to Gavin Newsom and all of the you know there's lots of examples but Gavin Newsom seems to be the poster boy for uh you know how bad it could get where he was actually persecuting the church we're losing our religious freedoms even though we have the first amendment well I have been amazed I don't know when we air this interview it'll be a few weeks from when we're talking right now but I learned this week weekend that there are Christian colleges requiring vaccine proof to attend. And I thought to myself,
Starting point is 00:18:32 this is Christian, overtly Christian colleges. Biola was mentioned. I thought, what world have we entered when the basic ideas of freedom have been thrown out the window? There is so much fear. I mean, again, I didn't mean to talk about COVID, but it's almost funny to me. People act as though it's the bubonic plague, it's polio, it's something. I know so many people who've had it and recovered quickly, and yet we have Christian colleges kind of participating in this because their idea of freedom doesn't seem to,
Starting point is 00:19:11 it just doesn't seem to reach into these things. And I think that's part of the canceled culture is that people don't really have the, they don't have the American vans. values deep in them where they understand we can't do this, we can't do that. But it has entered the churches. I could give other examples. Well, people are wishy-washy. They don't really know what they believe. They go along to get along. I'm absolutely against vaccines. I mean, I read recently, and you don't know what to believe, and I haven't had a chance to research it, that 12,000 people have died from the vaccine. I had a very, very mild case of COVID that I got on an
Starting point is 00:19:49 airplane some when I got absolutely exhausted and ran down my immune system, but I was better in two days. So now I have the immunity. You know, for me, I say people can make a decision. They should have control over their own body. They ought to be able to decide. I'm concerned that the government is just imposing everything and they're using health to try to push regulations on us that before they would not have gotten away with. This is not the bubonic plague. When it first happened, we didn't know, but within a week or two, we could tell it was bad, but it didn't even come close to being that bad. In fact, as it goes through the population, you know, the death rate is really very, very small, and the people who die probably would have died. A lot of them are very old. They would have
Starting point is 00:20:36 died within a matter of months of something else anyway. But the thing is that even to say that is being canceled. Some of the doctors that are saying, listen, we can give you hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin which i take myself as a propylactic um if you say that you're terrible you can't you can't say that on facebook uh we're going to cancel you we're going to say that you're a quack when it's not a quack hydroxychloroquine is i'm told is a safest Tylenol and and not much more expensive yet they treat it like i mean if there was even a possibility it would help if it was just 50-50. Wouldn't you try it? There's nothing. It's not going to kill you like the vaccine is. But yet there's a group think. We call it political correctness. It's been around for a long time.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's just gotten much, much worse. And it's time for Christians and other conservatives to stand up and say that's enough. We'll be right back talking to the author of God and cancel culture, Stephen Strang. Hey, folks, Eric Metaxis here. Joe Biden and the Democrats have laid out the most socialist agenda our country has ever seen. Instead of following President Trump's blueprint that had the economy booming, the Dems are going to raise taxes, increased regulations, and skyrocket an already outrageous national debt. If your retirement is in traditional investments, it is in jeopardy. Americans should be diversifying their investments with gold and precious metals. Gold gives you control over your wealth and protects you from market volatility, inflation, and a weakening
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Starting point is 00:23:17 Stephen, we were talking earlier about vaccines and all these things. And it's a weird moment in America where, you know, I just always say, look, I want to be rational, right? So there's some people who think the vaccine is a good idea. I think it's a horrible idea. But we can disagree. But the point is we have people like Lemmings saying, we can't disagree shut up don't talk about that stuff those people are crazy uh just get the vaccine get the vaccine and i think i was okay wait a second um if i get the vaccine is there any
Starting point is 00:23:51 downside potentially three years from now five years from now we don't really know probably not and i say okay so probably not but you're not really sure so i'm not going to get it okay and people like no no no you got to get it you can't eat at restaurants you can't go to college you can't go to biola and you think wow what happened to Americans thinking for themselves making their own decisions some people are trying to enforce a certain kind of thinking and even if they're right they have no right to enforce thinking that's basically what cancel culture is isn't it it's to use the culture and peer pressure to bully a group you want to go to a restaurant you want to walk around without a mask you better do this.
Starting point is 00:24:41 That's, it's fundamentally un-American. I mean, forget un-Christian. It's fundamentally un-American. I agree with you 100%. And that's the point I try to make in the book. Now, I live down in Florida where things are relatively normal. And I don't personally face that kind of thing. And in the book, I research everything.
Starting point is 00:25:00 There's footnotes. I'm very careful. What I'm going to tell you now is anecdotal. A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I went to a wedding. about 60 people. They only invited people who had had the vaccine. They made a couple of exceptions for my wife and I who had the antibodies. Since then, 20 people of the 60 have come down with COVID. At the table, we said at 20, 20 people out of 60. Now, at our table, there was a couple. They were friends of ours. We talked about the fact they'd had the vaccine. They got COVID. My wife and I,
Starting point is 00:25:37 who have not been vaccinated but had the antibodies. Aren't vaccines supposed to keep you from getting the disease? That's what a vaccine does. That's right. But, you know, someone said, and again, you don't know who to believe, but someone said it should not be called a vaccine. It should be called a shot. It's not a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's not a real vaccine. No, no, no. It is not a vaccine. So they're calling it a vaccine, but it's not a vaccine. It is a shot. It's experimental RNA therapy. Here's the point. The people who got the vaccine then get the disease, but that's not the worst part.
Starting point is 00:26:13 The worst part is now they can spread the disease. So they're walking around and saying, I'm vaccinated. They can spread the disease. So you got an experimental shot. And not only do you get the disease, but you can spread the disease to people. We're living in crazy times. You spread the flu, the common flu. When I had COVID, it was a very mild case, as I said.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I have been much sicker with the common flu. and the common cold in years past. For me, it wasn't that bad. I realized some people die. But I had a friend recently, my age, who died of the flu. This was a couple of years before COVID. I didn't even know people could die of the flu, but apparently there's thousands a year,
Starting point is 00:26:53 every year, depending on how bad the flu season is. Interestingly, this year, nobody's dying of the flu. I mean, they label everything COVID. I think they're lying to us. I really do. But my point of the book is not to make that argument so much as to just talk about how the end result is communism. I'd like to tell your listeners about your story. I'm not sure how much you've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But you know how your mother came from East Germany. Your father came from Greece, which came very, very close to being communistic. Your mother took you over there when you were a little kid. You saw with your own eyes what it was. You came home loving liberty like most Americans. don't because we take it for granted. We're like fish in the water. We don't even know what water is because it's all we know.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think somebody wrote a book kind of a lot with that imagery. I'm guilty. I wrote a book called Fish Out of Water. All this stuff you're talking about is, of course, in my book, Fish Out of Water. But you're right. It's what woke me up to the horror of communism. My mom and dad lived this. And so growing up with them, I just heard their stories over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And so you realize, wow. That is bad. That is why you've written this book, God, and cancel culture. Because cancel culture leads us slowly and sometimes not so slowly toward big state, socialist, communist, Marxist thinking. That's exactly what it is. Anybody who lived through the Chinese cultural revolution, much worse than anything my parents saw, that was the cancel culture on proverbial steroids. It was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:28:35 If you defied the Marxist thinking during the cultural revolution, they humiliated you, they did things to those people. Anybody who's lived through this stuff knows we don't even want to go near that. Cancel culture is going near that. Well, it's still really bad in communist China, North Korea. There's lots of examples. If you don't agree with the government, they cancel you, including putting you in prison and in some instances killing you, which is the ultimate cancelation. And, you know, this totalitarian dictators have always done this.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Why can't we wake up and see that the government and it's not just the government, but it's the media, it's academia, and now it's businesses with big tech and others. You know, why would Coles care about selling a pillow? It's because they're trying to punish Mike Lindell from the audacity of saying maybe. We got to go to break. We're going to talk about Mike Lindell when we come back. God and Cancel Culture, Stand Strong Before It's Too Late. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Welcome back. I'm talking to Stephen Strang, my friend, who's written a book called God and Cancel Culture. The subtitle is Stand Strong Before It's Too Late. The Forward is written by Mike Lindell, who has become the most canceled man alive. He's still standing. And I want to ask you, you talked about Coles canceling him, bedbath and beyond canceling him. They said, we don't like your politics. We don't like you speaking up.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We don't care if you're right or wrong. We don't like you. We disagree. We're shutting you down. That's where we are in America. That big tech and big stores, corporations are going along with this. It really does feel like what happened in Germany in the early 30s. They said, if you don't play along, you're out.
Starting point is 00:31:07 That's what cancel culture is. The subtitle of your book, God, and Cancel Culture, is Stand Strong Before It's Too Late. Talk about that. Stand strong before it's too late. Well, Christians as a group are rather passive. Generally, they're nice people. They go along to get along.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They hope it won't affect them. Some of us like me live in kind of a bubble. Most of the people in my life are Christians. I recognize that. A lot of this nonsense doesn't affect me, but we cannot ignore it any longer. They're going to come and get all of us sooner or later. And you're right. Mike Lindell is a hero.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I don't know that he's been canceled as much as Donald Trump has, but they're right up there together. And he's like Donald Trump and that he doesn't seem to care. You know, he just seems to thrive on it. And, you know, there's a very important and serious thing when it comes to economics. You know, we talked about communism, you know, at the final, at the end of the day, it's economics and it's atheism. And they're starting to, when people are canceled, they lose their job or they lose whatever, they're losing the right to make an income. With Mike Lindell, you know, why doesn't one of the retailers say, hey, you can't buy it at these other retailers, come over here and I'll take all the extra business to sell you a pillow? But it's not.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It's like group think. Like we're bad people if we don't go along with the woke crowd is very concerning. And Mike Lindell is going to, you know, these people wouldn't take his pillow to start with when he was just starting until it became famous. He'll survive. He just will. People can go direct to MyPillow.com and buy a pillow. I have a lot of his products and I'd buy more if I could figure out who I could give him to his gifts. I want to support him as much as I can.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But there's other ways that they cancel us economically. I go into this in the book, God, and cancel culture. It has to do with credit card processing. This is something that those of us who aren't in the banking or credit card industry don't know anything about. But when you submit your credit card for payment, they accept it or rejected. And then it goes into this way that the banks transfer money and they finally put it on your bill and you pay it.
Starting point is 00:33:21 But there are some of these places that have canceled. conservative and Christian organizations because they don't like the fact that they go against the woke feeling that LGBT is okay. They stand for biblical values. They're not necessarily hateful. They're not pointing their guns at anyone. They are just saying what they believe, and their credit cards won't be processed. It's becoming a real problem. And if people can control you like this, they're controlling your ability to buy and sell. And for those of us who study any kind of Bible prophecy at all, it sounds a lot like the beginning of the mark of the beast, the Antichrist. You know, this is stuff I never thought I would see in my lifetime. But you've got to believe
Starting point is 00:34:10 that it's building up towards something, one world government. I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. And maybe it'll happen generations from now. But it sure looks like it's building up to something and cancer culture is part of it. I just hate the fact that I agree with that. I hate it. It's sickening to me. But unfortunately, if you're paying attention, that's exactly what it looks like. If you really are paying attention, there are a lot of people who either they're not paying attention or they can't bear the thought. So they have to, they have to, you know, brush it off as conspiracy theory or exaggeration. I wish it were. But I have to be honest. And, say that one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you about this book is because I feel like this is
Starting point is 00:34:55 front and center in our lives. Here's the issue. Your book says, God and cancel culture stands strong before it's too late. If we don't stand strong now, if we don't push back now, if we don't fight now, we will go down this path that you and I have been talking about. And so the question is, will we stand up, will we fight? There are many people listening right now. They're not fighting. They're not doing anything. Well, hopefully my book will cause them to wake up, and people are speaking up. I think there is hope. I try to end the book with hope.
Starting point is 00:35:29 We haven't lost yet, but it's like leaning back at a chair. You can lean back, lean back, and you can write it, you know, put it back on all four legs if you want to. But at some point, you lean back too far. You get to a tipping point where it's impossible to put it down. You just fall backwards. That's where the term tipping point came from. And we're getting pretty close to that tipping point, I'm afraid. But we can speak up.
Starting point is 00:35:54 We can be strong. And even programs like this and everything you do. You said Mike Lindell was a hero. I think you're a hero too for all that you've done. And you have really been attacked lately. And so bravo for standing strong yourself. Well, thank you. We've just got about a minute left.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But I just want to say that, you know, I have my parents to thank. because my parents, they really made me see. They grew up in some cases living hell, no food. They saw the evil. And so they made me understand this is real. Because I haven't seen it in my lifetime. That's because I'm ridiculously blessed living in America. But around the world, most people know there is evil.
Starting point is 00:36:40 There's a potential for terrible, terrible things. The question is, will the people with the power, with the freedom, in this country, will they wake up and fight now? And again, that's the title of your book, God and Cancel Culture, Stand Strong, Before It's Too Late. We've got 40 seconds. Do you think people will push back? I believe they're starting to, and you're right,
Starting point is 00:37:05 this is a wonderful country. Why do you think people are pouring over our southern borders if this is such a terrible racist country or whatever else the left says we are? It's a wonderful place. We're still the land of the free and the home of the brave. Well, that's a beautiful way to end it. Folks, the book is God and Cancel Culture Forward by Mike Lindell, but the book is by Stephen Strang. Stephen, it's just a joy to know you're in the fight with us, and I hope your book in this interview wakes people up.
Starting point is 00:37:39 They need to wake up today. Stephen, thank you. Thank you, Eric. We shall. Are you ready to have some fun? Oh, come on. Are you ready, Albin? Really?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yes, fun. Yes. On this program, listen, before we have fun, I always remind people, we need you to patronize our sponsors. Yes. Or sponsor our patrons. I don't know which it is, but the point is, if you go to mypillar.com and my store.com, oh, we're going to get Bonhofer posters in. I am exploding with excitement over Bonhoff. Wait till you see them, folks.
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Starting point is 00:38:52 This is called a capital city miraculous fun fact. Yeah. Why don't you read this? Okay. I'm just going to read this because now this was not fun when it was actually happening. But, you know, things today. No, it's a fun fact. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Not then, but it is kind of like now because today everybody's praying for the nation. should be Christians, right, praying for the nation to be spared from whatever tragedy is ahead. And I feel like we're in it right now. We're in the middle of a tragedy. It's called Joe Biden. And if you know that God's a prayer answering and a miracle working God, you're going to keep praying, right? Well, way back in the war of 1812, put on your thinking caps, folks, when the British soldiers marched on our nation's capital and torched many of the city's buildings, including the White House. Now, by the way, we got to say, can you imagine, like we don't often talk about the war of 1812. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Can you imagine British troops marching on Washington, D.C. If you've been to Washington, D.C., it didn't look that way back then. It was like a swamp. Yeah. And they torched buildings and they set the White House on fire. The nation wasn't even 50 years old yet. And Tifa was trying to do it today. But the British were doing it in 1812.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Now, this was August 24. So this was just like last week anniversary, 1814, their prayers were answered. Now, a lot of people were praying that something would happen to stop this madness, right? With the city on fire, a sudden and unexplained tornado blew in from nowhere and within a couple of hours, okay? All the fires were doused by this tornado, yep. And the citizens and the press in young America dubbed the unrelenting torrenting, torrential rains, as the miracle that saved Washington. Now, I want people to look this up.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I can't right now because my computer's not here. But I want to ask you, first of all, did you know this? Because I have never heard this. I thought I've always heard. I've heard all this kind of stuff. I've never heard this. The idea that during the War of 1812, which lasted a couple of years, in 1814, in the hot summer, you have the British troops torching the then brand new.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Washington, D.C., the White House, people were praying, and a tornado comes out of nowhere, and torrential rains douse all the fires. I mean, that's like, really? But it happened, but look it up. And if you find anything more interesting about it, email us at metaxis talk.com. We like to read your letters. I wanted to say that. We love it when you write to us. And, I mean, I read, we read everything that comes in. We can still do that. It's not easy. But we do. We read whatever you. If you want me to read what you write, send it to us. Go tometakishton.com. And oftentimes we read your letters on the ear. But if you find out more about this, I'm just curious because this is an amazing miracle. And send in other miraculous facts, especially when they relate to America. Because we want to encourage people to keep praying because things look a little gloomy these days. Oh, yeah. Just a little. Just a little. Listen, in case you're wondering if things are really bad. Yeah. They are. Oh. But I want to say, and normally I'm not quite this. But when things are as bad as they are, as horrifying as they are, when America's profile in the world has been just marred beyond recognition, it's just horrifying.
Starting point is 00:42:19 We know that this wicked administration, they are doing evil things. And I just want to encourage people to pray, number one, and to know that God hears your prayers. What we just heard, God hears our prayers. So it's not just about hurricanes and stuff. Please pray, folks, pray for the nation, and be encouraged. God is on his throne.

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