The Eric Metaxas Show - Svetlana Lokhova
Episode Date: April 12, 2021Svetlana Lokhova was falsely implicated with General Michael Flynn in the entire Russiagate scandal purposely designed to bring down President Trump. ...
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Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Metaxus.
Folks, welcome to hour two.
I'm talking to Mike Lindell.
In our next segment, we're going to talk to Svetlana Lakova, a young woman whose life
was almost ruined by the Russia madness because she just happened to meet General Flynn.
I don't know, 10 years ago, horrifying story, but she's fought successfully against it.
God bless her.
We'll be talking to her in a couple of minutes.
Right now I'm talking to my friend Mike Lindell.
Mike, you are doing so many things.
We're launching Frank.
I said we, because I'm going to be a part of it by God's grace, I want to be.
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But I want to get back to the election.
You said, Mike, that something big happened over this weekend, obviously today's Monday.
What was it that happened?
Well, there's two things, but one is on Friday, everyone says, you know, nobody, no judges
ever looked at any evidence, whatever, I mean, everything's been looked at.
No judges did except for Antrim County, Michigan.
That case went on, and everybody kind of forgot about it.
Well, guess what?
It didn't, it's still going on.
And on Friday, we came back with Matt DePiro, the great lawyer in Michigan there, turned in his whole brief.
All that stuff for months now working on this, working on this.
And the evidence in there, you can go, it's 100-some pages.
It's just, anyone looks like going, wow, that's, you know, now we have a court that says, here it is, okay?
This is all the things that was spent.
But one of the things that wasn't added on there is the other thing that we happened that I've been working on.
These other guys, these cyber guys now, since we put out absolute proof, I said, you know what, let's take 19.
Just take 19 of these attacks.
And what we did, Eric, we took 19 attacks.
And they all came from China, all of them, all 19 of them.
And we took on there and we expanded on this.
I had third party experts, cyber experts that were there.
And actually one of them used to be in the government.
a high intelligent, started with three letters behind it.
So they went out and they validated the IP addresses, the IDs of the computers,
the buildings over in China.
And then who actually did the attacking from that place?
The actual cyber, there's a cyber footprint now in there to when the vote was flipped
that you absolutely could not get if you were not there exactly on November 3rd.
Now, those 19, just those 19 attacks, now you validated it over here.
This took a month of validation and over here by the third party.
All 19 of those, guess what it does?
If you take that flip out of there, of all the votes that were flipped from Trump to Biden,
Donald Trump wins Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and, I mean, Georgia and Arizona.
So Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona, just on that little attack.
And this is 100% proof.
You can't change numbers.
You can't change things.
And it was checked by a third party and validated.
Okay.
So you're saying this because I know you, I believe you, but a lot of people, they just blow it off.
How do you force people to look at this evidence?
How do you force somebody in power, so to speak, to deal with what we're talking about?
And I want to say to people, this is an American issue.
It's not a Trump issue, folks.
We've got to know that foreign entities are not destroyed.
our government by interfering our elections. It's basic. Go ahead.
Right. And see what we've done then is there's stuff like when you watch absolute interference,
which is being on April 20th, and that's one of the reasons they have Frank to get this out far and wide.
Everybody's may share into all the other platforms that day. The whole world's going to be watching.
We're going to be dumping all this absolute interference evidence. Now there's things in there.
You're going to see whistleblowers that have their faces covered and you're going to see people.
people that were involved in this,
that will, although these people will come forth,
once it gets before the court, the Supreme Court,
which it will in five or six weeks,
when it gets there,
then these people come forth.
These are people that were involved,
and they're going to be, you know,
basis coverage.
And we've had third party validate the evidence.
Now, here's another thing.
We have other things going on,
other officials, which I can't say,
maybe, I don't know,
attorney generals, secretaries of state,
people like that.
that are going to come forward and say, wow, I have seen this.
And so you are going to have officials.
And people say, well, why don't you just bring it,
why don't you just bring it right to the court now
or bring it right to these government agencies?
Quite frankly, because I don't know who to trust right now.
I want to try, I trust the American people.
And like you said, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican,
it doesn't matter.
This was an attack on our country by China and for domestic actors that also helped them.
So we have to get the word out. I want everyone in this country, Eric, and the world.
And, you know, we're just going to do an evidence dump day after day after day after day after day after day after day to where, you know what?
You could pick anyone in the country and say, hey, I don't care what you're, you know, what party you are?
What do you think happened on election night?
They're going to go, ah, we've been attacked. We were attacked.
Well, Mike, again, the issue, though, is always, quote, unquote, distribution.
We can have this evidence.
You can put it on your platform, which is going to be frankspeech.com, but to get it to people who don't want to see it.
I mean, there were people, you know, in Galileo's time, they didn't want to look through his telescope because they just didn't want to know.
They didn't like the narrative.
This happens over and over again.
And so that to me is the big challenge.
How do you get those people to look at it?
Well, they will.
That's when we have this Frank speech, once you see how this is rare.
and how about this is.
This is what's going to get the voice out there.
Now, here's how I know this works.
Absolute proof was seen by 150 million people.
And that's right in the middle of every outlet,
everything in the world trying to destroy anyone from seeing that.
This was your Wikipedia's of the world,
your LinkedIn's, your YouTube's, your Vimeos.
Oh, did I say Wikipedia?
What?
You mean they're involved?
Yeah, absolutely.
your Googles, your Facebooks, all these, in spite of that 150 million.
Now with this new plan of all of us working together, everyone's going to want to go tell
their neighbor and stuff and say, hey, look at this.
Look at this stuff because what they're doing, Eric, you've got to, they're stopping us
from everybody seeing anything.
So now you get, if you get 100 million people in our country, they get to see it, they can
only hide this so long.
And the mainstream media, I'll get this.
The mainstream media, when these lawsuits start coming out like my pillow suing,
mainstream media still likes a good old, you know, gossip or whatever or not gossip,
but, you know, somebody getting hurt or somebody getting attacked.
They love it.
They eat it up.
So you use that and you're going, you know, just like you've seen me for a month and a half,
Eric, when I went, you know, I'm a marketer.
So when they attacked me every day going, Mike Lindell's lost all his retailers,
I'm going, what do you say to that, Mike?
And I go, you know what?
Did you hear the machines?
Did you hear China attacked our country?
Mike, what do you think about?
What do you think about losing Twitter?
Did you hear about the machines?
I think what you're trying to say is you're crazy like a fox, and that's why we like to.
Well, Mike, I think I want to say this just to my audience that the key to this is that every one of us,
we haven't lived through anything like this, but right now, everyone in America has to exercise
their free speech by getting the truth out there.
We all have a voice.
So folks, one way to do it obviously is to go to Frankspeech.
But whatever platform you're on, share these things with people so that everyone can judge fairly.
Nobody's saying, take our word for it.
The evidence is there.
Look at it.
Argue with it.
You can punch holes in it.
But the point is, do look at it, folks.
Our democracy is at stake.
Our republic is at stake.
Mike, I do think that that's the key to this.
There are people around the world that understand China is a threat to the world.
and that if we allow them to attack the biggest, strongest kid on the block,
that's the United States of America.
If we allow them to do what they have been doing, the whole world suffers.
So this is not something parochial.
It involves, unfortunately, the whole world.
Absolutely.
And I've been hearing from all these other countries, just Australia yesterday,
and they're looking at everything that's happening here.
And there's certain things that are going to have to happen in the future,
things we all, you know, like you say, right now, everybody,
We all have to get the word out.
We all have to just do everything every day.
Wow.
Besides praying, getting the word out.
The next thing is we're going to have things by uniting us, things we can do together.
And now, you know, you're talking about.
We're going to have to go to break.
We'll be back, I think, with more Mike Lindell.
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Folks, remember that I told you that I'm friends with a woman who's accused of being a Russian spy.
Her name is Maria Butina.
She is not my guest.
Things have gotten so insane in America that there are two women whose lives suffered from being absurdly named as supposed Russian spies.
We are speaking today with Svetlana Lokova.
Svetlana, welcome to the program.
Thank you.
And thank you for having me.
And hello to your wonderful audience.
Thank you.
Your story is as crazy as the story of my friend Maria Bettina.
I mean, it's a stunning thing to most of us in America.
We've never lived through anything like this, that the political classes would go so insane that they would single out people like you.
So we want to hear your story.
Your book on the subject is called SpyGate Exposed.
That's where you tell the story.
Just a little bit of a promotion.
No, no, no, we're all about promotion because I'm a writer. I write books and you have to sell books for people to read them. So for people who are completely unfamiliar with your story, tell us what happened to you?
So I was just a regular person, actually not even American living in Britain. I'm British. I moved to England when I was a teenager from Russia. But I spent my whole, you know, growing life in Britain. And specifically, I was.
and later teaching and researching at the University of Cambridge,
which is one of the best universities in the world.
So it was a huge achievement for somebody who is an immigrant.
And I was working at a seriously, you know, interesting level
in terms of, you know, writing the history of events that, you know, happened, you know,
a hundred years ago.
So then in 2014, we had a very important visitor,
and Cambridge thus, you know, attract very interesting people.
And one of those people was General Flynn.
Let me ask you, though, so you grew up initially in Russia, but mainly in England, you make your way to Cambridge.
What were you studying at Cambridge?
And how old were you?
Were you an undergraduate or in your graduate studies?
So I started as an undergraduate, so it's always history.
I started as an undergraduate.
Then I got accepted to the master's program, then my PhD.
So basically, I had this, you know, quite an amazing.
academic career for somebody, you know, both from originally another country and also from
somebody who, you know, is relatively young to the rest of the professors, a female. So my career
was going sort of, in terms of academia, was going to strength to strength. So I was teaching and I
was doing some, you know, really important academic research. And so when General Flynn, who at that
point was the head of the Obama administration's defense intelligence agency, he comes to visit
Cambridge. They of course want to present Cambridge in the best possible light, and they select,
I don't like to say that about myself, but they select what they consider the most talented
group of researchers within University of Cambridge. And so they organize a dinner in General Flynn's
honor. And I'm of a selective group of people who is there to, you know, have dinner with
Jonathan and present a historical research.
And your research was on the Stalin era?
1930, that's right.
Okay.
And so obviously that involves Spycraft and things like that,
but you're an historian 100 years later and you're a British citizen.
Right.
And also in this particular case, even the document that I was asked to show General Flynn
at that dinner.
So we each were asked to present our research.
I just found a postcard in the same.
Stalin archive. So before Stalin became this, you know, leader of Soviet Union and this really
famous, you know, dictator. Previously, he was actually himself a revolutionary on the run
from the secret police. And I found a postcard he sends when he's actually escaping and the police
is chasing him. So it's a very different. So that's the sort of thing we do at Cambridge is we challenge
people's opinions about the subject they know, right? So it was something which was, you know,
very interesting to researchers, but at the same time had nothing to do with the current events
in America. And that's in 2014, one fall.
2014. I know we forget. And I have myself forgot. I had the privilege of meeting General Flynn
a couple of times, but since I'm not Russian, I wasn't threatened with jail time.
Or female.
Pardon me? Or female.
Well, listen, I have to say that, you know, it is amazing to me. It's hard for me. It's one of the
reasons I want to have you on. Most Americans cannot get their heads around the idea that we descended
into this madness. And the left and the Democrats have never apologized. They've never come clean
on this issue. They keep harboring it in a sense as a kind of a vague threat that, well,
maybe it wasn't proved, but we still believe it's true. When the Hunter laptop blockbuster
information came out, they actually said, oh, this is Russian disinformation.
This is a few months ago.
It's just absurd.
So your story is right in the center of this.
Here you are doing your work, studying at Cambridge.
And simply because you're Russian, they decide there's a way to link you to General Flynn
and to make it look like something is going on.
So what was your experience?
How did it happen for you?
Right.
And so this is what is you right.
It suggests, you know, people forget that 2014, there was no Trump, President Trump, right?
I know it doesn't seem like a long ago, but as a historian, let's go for the date, right?
So in 2014, the president was Obama, and there was no way in the world.
I don't think Donald Trump knew he was even going to run for the president, let alone win, right?
So there was no kind of connection with, you know, Russian, you know, whatever they call it,
you know, election, stuff, et cetera, et cetera.
So General Flynn visits as the head of President Obama's DAA.
Right.
We have this great visit.
He leaves his dinner.
he's accompanied by security detail.
And that's it.
And I get picked up by, you know, by my colleagues and then, you know, by my family.
And that's the end of it, right?
And that should have been the end of it.
And then three years later, three years later, I find myself in the newspapers as a,
I apparently say, as a British historian, I'm now in the newspapers as some kind of
like professional spy whose job it is to seduce.
U.S. generals, and in particular those connected to the Trump campaign.
And it comes out of nowhere, right? And I have no idea what it's about because, as you say,
many American people don't understand how something like this could have happened.
Well, I still don't understand how something like this could have happened. So, you know,
I don't live in America. I have nothing to do with politics. I have nothing to do with,
I lived all my life in Britain. So I have no idea what's about. I find myself in New York Times,
in Washington Post, all the top newspapers.
and Daily Mail, by the way, also, with my picture from taking from when I was a lot younger
and making it look as if I'm some sort of seductress who seduced General Flynn in order to
get him to betray his country. And I don't know what to do. I honestly at first thought it's
some kind of joke, right? I didn't realize this is a serious, right? Now, when you got this
insane news, you had just become a mother. Right.
So, I mean, you were living in London or I'm sorry, in Cambridge at the time?
So I was living, so I was working in Cambridge, but I was in London to give birth.
And also my first book, which is a highly successful academic book, which is also in the Cambridge University Reading List, etc.
So I was about to publish the first book in my life.
And I've just had a baby.
So it was very busy period for me.
And the last thing I expected is this.
I'm sorry, but the book you're talking about is the book about Stalin.
Is that right?
Right, right.
And so the book was about to come out, and I've just had a baby.
And then suddenly I find myself in the newspapers.
So I'm in London, you know, just after, you know, I recovered from birth.
So you're married and this is your first child?
First child.
And so I'm dealing with, you know, I remember actually on the night that I started getting
funny messages with people like David Ignatius from Washington Post.
Yeah, he's a, he's, you want to avoid him, but that's too late.
Go ahead.
Remember, I don't know who all this.
I don't know how, I don't even know how to explain the feeling where you're in a flat in London with a newborn.
And you're figuring out like you're putting different bits of, you know, baby furniture together and the baby has trouble sleeping.
And you're a shock because it's the first time you have a baby and you have a book deadline.
And I can't even explain to you like how far away I was from your, I'm afraid, your American world.
Of course.
Of course.
Anybody with a life is not focused on these things.
It's just crazy stuff.
What did your husband think?
I mean, this is really crazy.
Well, he looks at me because there's this time difference, right?
So this emails on the same day, I start getting pings from Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and some English newspapers all in the same day coordinated.
So remember, the Flynn dinners in 2014.
This is February 2017.
So three years later, suddenly everyone know my, all this so-called reporters who are actually professional operators, they, as I now discovered.
Professional what? Say it again?
You know, operatives, you know, they were, which I didn't.
Journalism has suffered fatally in the United States, but go ahead, yeah.
Well, of course, that wasn't known to me at that point, right?
So I get this coordinated, I now know coordinated messages from all of these top names in the news business.
asking me about my relationship with General Flynn, the man I met once three years ago.
At a dinner.
All about it, right?
This is amazing.
We're going to go to a break.
Folks, the book is SpyGate Exposed.
SpyGate Exposed by Svetlana Locova.
We'll be right back.
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Folks, I'm talking to Svetlana Locova.
The book is Spigate.
Spadlana, am I pronouncing your surname correctly?
It's fine. It says good as it gets.
How do you say it?
But you're almost perfect.
Lokova.
Yeah.
Because of the K, the K is silent is the way the phonetics work between Russian.
So say it again. How do you say it?
Lohama.
Lohava.
Yes.
So the K is supposed to be silent.
It's the way that you translate the H.
Right.
In order to get the ha sound, you have to put the K there.
That's right.
But don't worry too much. Yours as good as it gets, you know.
That Lana Lojoba.
Okay, well, I just am amazed at this story because, as I said, I'm friends with Maria Butina,
who went through a very strangely similar thing.
It's so bizarre when you know someone, you know, this is a young woman trying to live
her life and the madness that is dumped on you.
I mean, thank God you were not put in prison in the way that she was.
but just horrible stuff.
And it's difficult for us in America to think that our government is capable of this sort of madness.
So how did this play out for you?
You get, suddenly you're in the middle of this media storm.
But what happened after that?
I know it's in your book, SpyGate exposed, of course.
But how did this eventually play out?
Well, so I didn't know.
So, you know, likely for me, I'm in Britain at that point.
and also I was pretty pretty naive about what was going on the United States and the politics.
So I thought it's some kind of like bad joke or some kind of media hysteria.
So I issued, well, I tried to, you know, level with the newspapers to try and get them.
And that's what gave me the first impression that there was something more behind this, right?
because every single detail, even relatively small detail that they put out that was wrong,
they wouldn't correct.
So, for example, they would put in the newspaper that I sat next to General Flynn at the dinner.
And I said, well, I didn't.
I was in a completely other part of the table.
And they wouldn't even correct small points like that, right?
And everything.
So that's when you knew that the story was already pre-written, right?
That you're not actually, they're not getting to the truth, no matter how scandalous it can be.
they're just there to push a specific narrative and they would get really aggressive with me,
the journalists, so-called journalists, when you try and push back against that narrative, right?
That's the first experience I've ever had of dealing with people who are actually operative that I now know.
So David Ignatius actually flew to England from Washington to meet me.
I refused not because I knew anything about David Ignatius,
but because I was dealing with a newborn and the last person I want to meet in my life.
life is some guy from Washington about some relationship with a person I met with Jen on Flynn,
right? Like that wasn't on my top priority list. Then what happens is at that point, now I'm looking
with the hindsight, but at that point, I thought, okay, it's a media hysteria. So I tried to get
the newspapers to retract the stories or justice stories they refused. So I issued legal proceedings.
then some of the newspapers turned down a bit the narrative and I gave a series of interviews
to say and luckily for me I had some media contacts because for my role as a historian
part of my thing was public outreach so it was trying to connect with the young people so to
make history more exciting so I had some media contacts from my history background but I could
use to tell people I know this story is fake I don't know what else is going on
in America, but I'm not a seductress. I'm not a spy. I don't know why this is happening. So that was
that. Then we find out, and that's when things become really crazy. A few months later, we find out
that the person who put those fake stories in the newspapers is a man called Stefan Halper.
And Stefan Halper. And who does Stefan Halper work for? Right. That's the thing. So he,
as I knew him, was an old guy in Cambridge, an old American who is the native. And he was the
all of money at Cambridge University, and we have all sorts of people at Cambridge,
so you don't sort of pry too much. They're there. So he was teaching at the, or said he was
teaching in one of the Cambridge faculties. And it transpires that Stefan Halper, who we knew as a professor
at Cambridge University, which is the university that I was at, was actually a paid informant
for numerous government agencies in the United States. So he was masquerading.
as somebody who was part of the Cambridge University in Britain,
but actually he was a paid government and informant and political operative.
So we know for sure he was paid by the FBI.
He's been their informer since 2010.
So that's in the IG Horowitz, Inspector General Horowitz report,
and also in the recently released documents.
We know that the FBI were paying him to inform on people.
We know that the defense department also paid him.
Let me ask you, though, because I'm curious, do you think, why do you think he did this?
In other words, there's no doubt that this is completely false.
Do you think he believed there might be truth to it?
Or was he simply part of the cabal trying to push a narrative, a deep state narrative that's anti-Trump?
And he doesn't care that it's true.
What's your impression?
So first of all, he told the story that the story that ended up in the newspapers is based on his report,
the Halper's report that only got released two weeks ago.
So for four years it's been concealed from us,
where he,
Stefan Halper said that he was present at the dinner with General Flynn
and that he witnessed,
he witnessed the word witness,
that I left dinner with General Flynn in a taxi,
and then we went to the train station and we had an affair,
and that I was suspicious and acted like a Russian spy around Cambridge.
And none of that happened.
So Stefan Halper wasn't at the table,
didn't have a general flame. There was no cab journey. There was no train. So general flu.
So you, I'm just guessing based on what you say, and I'm sure it's in your book,
SpyGate Exposed, but it sounds like he was working for the deep state and trying to push
forward a narrative to hurt Trump. We have to go to a break. Folks, I'm talking to Svetlana
Lojova. And her book is SpyGate Exposed the conspiracy to topple President Trump. We'll be right
back.
I'm talking to Svetlana Locova.
And the book is SpyGate Exposed,
The Conspiracy to Topol President Trump.
And there it is.
Svetlana, you have another book out.
People can find you.
L-O-K-H-O-V-A.
Svetlana, SpyGate Exposed.
And then the other book is about Stalin
and, you know, has nothing to do
with what's happening in current events,
nonetheless interesting from people who are,
for people who are interested in history.
Very important academic and historical work.
Right.
And so, but I want to ask you, you grew up originally in Russia, but you said that, of course, Russia, I mean, when it was the Soviet Union, it was atheistic, but you somehow found faith a little bit later in your journey.
Correct. So, you know, when we were growing up, there was no God, but then slowly, slowly, you know, the churches sort of became open. And one day, you just, you know, hear the choir and see the candles.
just go in, I was 10, I was just curious, and I went in, and it was just really nice there.
And so slowly, slowly you become interested in religion. And then they introduced religious studies
at my school. So suddenly we were still part of, you know, the old sort of, you know, curriculum.
But our teacher also gave us, I had a special, like, kiddie Bible, you know, so it had a lot
of pictures. And it was just something very, very different than, you know, between the churches.
And also, I think was very important also some.
some of the Russian traditions, they actually stayed through the atheistic sort of time, right?
And so, for example, you know, the Easter and the Easter eggs.
How do you say in Russian Christ is risen?
Something like Christos Vosgris.
And of course, I know in Greek is Jesus Anestia.
But of course, as you know, the calendar is different.
So we have to wait in this case for another month.
You don't have to tell me I know exactly what's going on because I celebrate Greek.
Orthodox Easter with my family. So I get to sort of celebrate both Easter's. It's kind of strange,
but I'm with you. I understand the same for me in Britain, because of course, I get, same goes with
Christmas. So I consider myself lucky because I just have numerous holidays, right? And I embrace them all.
Well, it's wonderful. I'm very glad to get to know you a little bit. And I'm glad you wrote a book about
this. It's called SpyGate Exposed. It's a new book, SpyGate Exposed where you talk about this.
I think what's troubling to those of us in the U.S. is that we see.
see things happening here with the so-called deep state and with government agencies being weaponized
to use the cliche, which is very similar of what happens in communist countries. And it's a shocking
thing for us in America to see these things having come to our shores. Correct. So for me,
of course, although my historical research is based on the, you know, things that happened 100 years
ago, I think the reason why it almost took me quite a long time to discover what was really
going on is as an immigrant from Russia to Britain to the West, somebody who genuinely believed
and still do in the US justice system, etc. It was quite strange to discover that in this particular
case, in my case, the FBI paid informants. So you, you know, you the taxpayer basically footed
the bill for these people to frame.
someone who was their political opponent.
And that's something that we normally associate with, you know,
to tell retiring or authoritarian societies where the security services are used
in order to fight against your political opponent.
In this case, I was a tool that they used because, you know,
to fight, you know, Donald Trump.
And Geno Flynn was his top advisor.
So although you might like or might not like Trump,
that's not the point.
The point is every American should be concerned that somebody like myself,
can just be framed, just absolutely stitched up, because somebody has this political agenda,
and that's a scary, scary thought.
Well, listen, it's utterly wicked, and these people should go to jail.
And while we have free media, people like me are going to continue to talk about this,
because this is deeply despicable.
It's absolutely as anti-American, as anti-freedom as anything.
And again, I think it's tremendously ironic that they did this to someone.
someone who comes from a country where this once happened, it's absurd that we're now doing this
kind of thing.
We've just got a couple of minutes left.
What are you doing with your life these days?
You still have, obviously, your family to think about.
Well, correct.
So what I'm trying to do, one thing is that, you know, one of the upsetting thing on top of
everything else, it took me four years to get even the documents that completely clear me and
show who the bad actors were and how they did that to get released. So I knew the whole thing
was alive, but somebody for four years have been suppressing those documents. So, and I don't
understand why on top of being falsely accused in this way, I also then had to spend the four years
fighting for that. That's the upsetting thing. But now that all the documents hopefully have
come out. And I'm also obviously, you know, have a number of lawsuits pending as, as a result of
this, but those things take time. And again, it's just really,
really frustrating that I'm having to do that as an individual, right, despite the fact that it
should really be the US government, who should deal with the mass that was made by their own
informers, right? So that's that. And then I'm just trying to, I suppose, go back to my normal
life of being an academic, but it's very difficult because, of course, I have this unfair
scandal to be, you know, unfairly associated with a scandal. So of course, it's very difficult for
mainstream universities, despite the fact that my academic credentials are what they are.
It's very difficult at the moment to go back to my normal academic life and try and rebuild my life after this four years, which were wasted in this political farce that I had no pardoned.
So I'm trying my best, but I wish that the US government did more to clear up the problem that they caused.
Well, since you're a Christian, I can tell you that one of my favorite scriptures is all things work together for good, for those that love.
the Lord and are called according to his purpose. He will take the worst experience of your life.
And if you give it to him, he can make something beautiful and redemptive out of it because it is
amazing that you would have to go through this with a young child and a young marriage trying
to make a career as well. We're glad to have had this time with you. And I just want to tell people
again, the book is SpyGate Exposed, the conspiracy to topple President Trump. We need to know
what happened and we need to do everything to bring the people who did this to justice.
And I thank you, Svetlana, for fighting as you've fought and for writing this book, Spygate,
exposed.
And I assume right now you're not working on a book.
You're just promoting this book.
That's usually how it goes.
At the moment, at the moment, I'm hoping that there will come a point where I still,
as I said to you, believe it or not, I still have faith that.
in the end, the American democracy and the system of justice will prevail,
and we will have, there isn't a happy ending
because it's just been a colossal waste of time and life.
But that fundamentally people who did all these things
will be held accountable,
and hopefully that would be the time for the next book.
That's why we're doing this program.
That's why you've written your book.
God bless you.
Thank you, Svetlana.
We appreciate it.
Folks, I promised you another couple of moments
with our friend Mike.
Lindell. Mike, today's the big day. People can go to frankspeech.com. I'm obviously very excited about
this. What else do we need to know? Well, this is going to be a voice, you know, a free speech voice
where we can get everything out there that we need to get out there instead of all influencers
are talking or people talking about one thing over here. Maybe you're showing someone
talking over here, but that one can't say it too louder. He gets suppressed.
This is going to unite everybody, and it's going to, we're going to actually be able to talk back and forth and come to things, come to solutions.
And when we get to solutions, one of the things is now there's great things being done in our country right now, Eric, as we speak.
You might have people over in Arizona fighting to Audub Maricopa County or taking down our recalling Doug Ducey.
You have things going on in Michigan, in New Hampshire, in Wisconsin.
But nobody knows that.
And nobody knows what they can do in like your home state, wherever you may live in Minnesota.
Maybe you're fed up with our governor in Minnesota, and you don't want to wear five masks on your face and dine out in the snow, you know, back a few weeks ago.
But these things where we're going to be able to say, here's what you can do if you don't like it, because people don't know what to do now.
You know, do you go up and get a petition to get rid of the machines in your county?
We're going to have, you know, people will talk about it.
we're going to have solutions for people that we can at least voice our opinions again or voice our
concerns. And, you know, when you have down at the border and you're only able to see what's going on
down there by a few outlets and whatever they don't want you to see, you don't see, and whatever they do,
they do, this is all going to change now. So I want everybody to know, this is the start.
Everybody keep the faith and the hope because our voices, once our voices would have been gone,
it's like that old TV screen Eric.
Remember the old black and white TV screens
where you turned them, you turned them off
and they went down to this little tiny dot
when you were a kid,
and then you turned it back down
right at the last minute,
and it came back to light.
Let me tell you, everybody,
we were down to that little dot,
but now we're getting bigger
and it's going to go, woo-hoo!
I love, can I quote you on that?
I'm sure I can't, actually.
I'll try.
Mike, I know I've got to get in a,
the word on a new sponsor we've got on the on the program.
But before I do that, I just want to thank you on behalf of the American people and
freedom loving people everywhere because it's a strange thing to be living at a time
where one person and what they do can matter so much.
We are not, we don't have a host of folks doing what you're doing.
So it's my humble opinion that God raised you up for such a time as this.
I'm proud to call you friend.
We will talk to you again tomorrow or through this week.
Folks, you're going to want to go to frankspeech.com.
Mike, thank you.
Thank you.
God bless you all.
Thanks, Eric.
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