The Eric Metaxas Show - Tim Mahoney

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Tim Mahoney and George Washington on their new film: The American Miracle Movie based on Michael Medved's book. https://americanmiraclemovie.com/

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I am in Dallas. And most of the people in the room who can hear me now are also in Dallas. But a lot of people who can listen in on the radio are not in Dallas. And I just want to say, it's going to be okay. We have radio technology. You'll be able to hear me as I conduct this conversation. I'm at the NRB, which this year is in Dallas. and I'm talking right now to Mark James.

Who is Mark James? Some of you are asking who don't know Mark James. Mark James is the Chief Sales and Marketing Officer of MediShare. MediShare. Some of you've heard about MetaShare because I've talked about it. Mark James, welcome. Hey, great to be here. Welcome to Dallas.

Where do you live normally? Franklin, Tennessee. Never heard of it. Never heard of it. How many friends do I have? Like, where are you going? Where do you live, Franklin, Tennessee? I'm so sick of hearing this.

I know. You need to get out of there. It's become, you know, it's like Levittown at this point. You've got to get the heck out of Franklin. All right. So you tell my audience who don't know about Medishear before we get into deeper things. What is Medishear? Yeah, I'd love to.

We are actually an association of churches. That's how we're organized. That provides a community health care option to people of faith. and so your listeners may be saying, well, what's a community health care option for people of faith? Yeah. And essentially, we're a health care sharing ministry. I sometimes describe it as crowdfunded health care for Christians. Yeah.

And as you know, Eric, there's the broken health care system. And in the world of faith, we're building different health care structures or faith-driven structures to serve Christians across the country. So at the end of the day, you come to us for your health care, but the approach is totally different. The way it works is similar, but there's some nuances.

Yeah. If we have time, we can get into. Well, it's pretty radically different and beautiful. And I mean, it kind of reminds me, because I'm writing this book on the American Revolution, and when you study, like Ben Franklin had ideas like this in Philadelphia in the middle 18th century. He's like,

what would it be like if we, you know, you can't afford to buy too many books? What if we have a lending library where we buy all these books and you can come in and you can, you know, he would be thinking out of the box. That's what this is. This is like thinking out of the box. Like we've got all these people, they have health care needs. Maybe we can come up with an idea that works for them. That's unlike, you know, kind of the standard train wreck that most people are experiencing with health care.

So that's meta share. And, you know, I've talked about it a lot. on the program you guys have advertised on the program but it's interesting i want i want you to explain uh to my audience go a little farther explaining it because and then i want to ask you about your personal story which is fascinating but explain it a little bit more how it works because i think there are people that really don't know yeah i would agree and i appreciate the opportunity and i agree with your reference to benjamin franklin you know we actually have a garage story where our founder started metashare in a garage because he wanted to

to create an alternative path for Christians to access something so vital, which we know is important, is healthcare. So how it works and how your listeners can find out more is really just a simple conversation. We're digital. We have everything out there for them to learn from. But essentially, you come into MediShare, you get a card. We have a network. and the difference that MediShare brings to the table is we are a direct bill, meaning you go to your care provider or hospital, the bills come to us, we pay the bills on your behalf.

We negotiate bills. See, that's a big piece right there. We negotiate bills. Most people wouldn't have a clue how to do that? No. You guys get that. You understand you have leverage and you use your leverage to negotiate the bills. So you're helping everybody who's paying into this.

We're helping everybody, and we've discounted or negotiated almost $3 billion worth of savings for our community since we were founded and growing. You should go to work for Doge. Yeah, no, I mean, to be able to pull that off, because like savings, I mean, think about it. It's otherwise it's waste. Yeah. And so that's what you guys do. And so, you know, I forgot about that. So that, to me, that's an amazing part of MetaShare.

but so keep going because I want to hear me. Yeah. So we're the convenience model, right? We've talked about that. And I think the other interesting thing is so many times we're consumers first, we're Christian second, and how we make decisions, how we interact with things. But, you know, in Colossians, it talks about being for our Lord and not of men. And so how do we do that?

We have to have a biblical worldview and how we approach it. And so our members have said, here's a. the guidelines and their member voted guidelines. So as an exec, I can't change. Like at United Healthcare, they can stroke of a pen, change a guideline. I can't. Our member, our community has to vote guidelines. So this is like self-government. Self-government. I mean, this is fascinating to me. Self-government. Yeah. And we actually have a member steering committee that can override our team internal that administers it. They will get an appeal sometimes. Yeah. And, and, you know, and, And so they have the power to vote one way or the other and override us.

So we are member-driven. It's community. The final thing I'll say is your dollars have a name. And what I mean by that is when you send money to United Healthcare, your dollars go into a pool. With us, it goes into individual accounts. Those accounts are held at a Christian credit union that actually invests our members' money in building churches, starting faith-based businesses, So kingdom economy, flywheel. And then that allows us if Eric Metaxus has an unplanned medical event and my dollars get used to pay your medical bill, I know that there's an Eric M.

I'm able to send you a message, lift you up in prayer. Wow. And I think if we think about what a community means, you sign a statement of faith, you are joined with people of like my. mindedness, you pray with them, you come together. Does this mean, are you saying in a nice way that if I decide that I want to transition, you will not cover the surgery? Is that what you're saying? That would be true according to our member voted guidelines.

Spoken like a lawyer. Oh, my God. Well, that's what's so wonderful about this. It's not lunacy. It's beautiful. You can tell I'm sick right now. I'm not going to ask you to, you know, help me with this. but I may be, you know, it's my throat.

I think I'm developing a goiter. Would you guys cover the removal of a goiter? Do you know if you cover the removal of goiters? Do you even know what that is? I do know what a goiter is. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure that's what I'm dealing with right now. I grew up in Southern Indiana, and I think my grandmother had a goiter, so. But that's as far as my knowledge goes.

They were all the rage in previous decades. Yeah. You don't see so many goiters anymore. And it's a shame. I think we need to bring goiters back. Ah. You can tell, you can tell that, that, uh, I'm drinking all the tea and honey. It's affected my brain here.

Yeah. So, Medeshire, if people want to look it up, what's the website? Medi-D-I-S-H-A-R-E dot com. It's pretty simple, metashare.com. Now, I want to get into your personal story because you're sharing something off the air that's really powerful, and I joke around a lot, but this stuff, just begin telling the story, and we'll go into a second segment. Yeah, happy to.

November of 2020. I contracted COVID and healthy all my life, sports, fitness focused. You were a gymnast. I was a gymnast. Because I was not a gymnast. I was a gymnast. But you were really a gymnast. I was a bona fide gymnast.

What, at the college level? Or what do you mean? Through high school is my claim to fame. We were state champs. I went to a Christian university out of high school and they didn't offer it. So I coached a YMCA program. And I also coached a high school team. during my time.

Okay, so physical fitness has been part of your life. Been part of my life. Yeah, that's where I really sort of cut my teeth and said, oh, you know, this matters. And I've sort of carried that with me. And I said off the air, like when you said your gymnast, I was like, you look like a gymnast. You have that, you know, that look. So suddenly in, you get COVID in November 2020. And what happens?

What's the story? Well, 14 days later, you know, I go through the period. I get drugs. I come out of it and little did I know that this thing called brain fog would haunt me. I had what people, we all have superpowers. Actually, we're going to, folks, we're going to a break. We'll be right back. You can go to MedaShare to check this out.

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But it's a powerful story. So you said that you got COVID in November 2020, and, you know, you go through the two-week thing. Yep. But then suddenly you have, it doesn't go away. You have brain fog. The lights went out. I have, I'm not joking. I've experienced this.

I had years ago lots of health issues, chronic fatigue syndrome. Brain fog is one of the most horrifying things. Yeah. And I went through it literally for decades, just horrible to live with it. It came and went. So this happens to you, like a few weeks after COVID. A few weeks after COVID, suddenly I go from being infographic, remembering numbers and conversations at a really detail level. And it's as if I had kryptonite in my backpack.

My superpower was now gone. Wow. And you could tell because you were particularly good at that. I was. And suddenly it's not working. It's not working. I couldn't remember my phone number. I was on phone calls.

People asked me for my number. I would have to make up a, not lie, but make up a conversation to, hey, I'll get back to you or whatever. And then, you know, suddenly from a personality perspective, I'm typically hopeful, optimistic, and that began to subside. My heart, my head were a bit disconnected. I knew how to be me because I'd been me all my life, but now it was formulated. Like, I had, this is, it's amazing to hear you talk about this because I have experienced some versions of this.

I'm not kidding. For years, I had chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, it goes in and out right. And you learn how to cope. You learn how to mask it. You learn how to manage it. Yep. And to some extent, I'm still doing that, but it's not as bad. But so many people struggle with this kind of thing.

And it's very difficult to explain to somebody who hasn't experienced it. Yeah. It really is. the way your brain feels and the way it dims and doles. And so, and I didn't even realize in the beginning I was, I was sort of going through these motions, but it became very clear. And so I continued to lean into fitness. I continued to be in the word.

And I'll tell you, you know, I wish it didn't work this way, Eric, but God works in the valleys a lot more than he does in the peaks. And for me, my journey. from a faith perspective, that episode really forced me to work underneath identity and some of the why of why I was doing what I was doing. And through that, I would have sat here four years ago and said, yes, I have peace. Yes, I believe in Jehovah Jira that God will provide. And I believed it, but not at the depth.

Isn't that interesting? I talk about this a lot about, you know, people say, I believe this, I believe that. That's not a biblical view of belief or faith. Faith is really, it's a deeper thing. Yes. And a lot of us can have a little bit of faith. We think just because we say we believe something.

But to believe it in your bones, it's a different thing to experience it so that you absolutely know. That's right. You know, somebody says, you believe in God, yes. And then there's some people, you know, I'm at that point where somebody says, you believe in God, it's like, like there's no doubt I can't pretend there's any doubt I have questions but so you started to experience a deepening

of relying on God I guess a deepening of really when I said I had peace it didn't have strings attached my peace was not dependent on what my personal economy the people in my purview the success or lack thereof, it was between him and I. I remember just arguing with God about some things,

and I finally submitted and said, I get it. This is between you and me. And from that moment on, you know, we talk a lot at Medashear about biblical wellness. So many times wellness is thought of in the physical and diet exercise. I'm thankful mental health is a thing more normative since post-pandemic, but the interesting thing is that society and even those in the Christian community don't mention spiritual when we talk about wellness. And so we're big on biblical wellness, and I'm really a representative of what a biblical wellness approach to my journey of healing

has been because it was really the faith side of my journey that I believe has really begun and has, I may not be 100%, but I have come so far in my healing because of that wellness approach. And I'm so thankful for that. One thing my pastor shared a couple years ago that has just become really a mantra for me is Genesis 22, Abraham and Isaac, and we all know that story. And Abraham didn't sacrifice his son, and he looks over at the thicket and there's a ram. Well, where'd the ram come from? When did the ram get sent? And so he talked a lot about God is sending rams for us when we don't even know it tomorrow

a year from now, five years from now, 10 years from now. And that's why Jehovah Jira, God will provide. we have to lean into that and have true peace. And so that's really what God has brought me to. And I couldn't have said it or expressed it the way I do today four years ago. So although I don't like valleys, I'm thankful. I was going to say, it's kind of funny because people say like, you know, when you're suffering, you learn so much. And that's when I go, yeah, I hate learning.

Let me tell you, I hate it. Okay. I hate it. Of course, you know, I don't really hate it. But part of me definitely hates it because nobody wants to go through that stuff. No. No. You know, we would do anything we can.

But the Lord in his unbelievable mercy. I mean, we can't believe that he would, because a bad parent would say, well, I don't want you to suffer too much. But a good parent says, no, you're going to be so blessed. And I'm going to walk with you through this. That's right. I love you that much. That's heavy. That's a heavy thing.

So you, now in terms of just the actual health, health and your brain. rain fog and stuff like that. Has that abated? For the most part, I will say in the last 30 days, we do 21 day fast at the beginning of the year at our church. And it's not something I had always done growing up in my faith. But coming out of that in January, I had another advancement of the cloud that I felt had been dissipating. And I begin getting some of my. memory, my capabilities back. And honestly, in the last 30 days, I feel like I have the most clarity I have had since November of 2020. People talk about, you know, fasting as being beneficial for physical health. You hear about that. And it's interesting because I think there are a lot of Christians

that, they act like that's crazy, extracredit Christianity. I don't do that. But it, I think the Lord wants it to be normative for us, again, to bless us. I believe it. I think, you know, whether it's a digital fast or this idea of food. The digital fast you can eat all you want, all the sugar, all the garbage. That's the great thing about a digital fast. It is. But the physical fast, as you mentioned, is, you know, making room for God's voice. and I truly believe he has honored the submission of me laying down some things that I didn't even know I was holding on to. This is heavy, Mark James. I appreciate your sharing this. I was going to ask you, a lot of times, you know, when we were talking about Meda Share, Meta Share, and it's a Christian community.

and do you have guidelines to help people? Because, I mean, you know, as RFK Jr. has, you know, taken over HHS, suddenly people are talking about, you know, health, and it's good to eat well, and it's good to exercise, and it's good to... And you would think that Christians would be at the forefront of it, but all you need to do is look around, and you see, like, that's often not the case. You get these, like, amazing Bible teachers that are 100 pounds overweight, and you think, that can't be good. That cannot be good for you, and the Lord wants you to be a good steward of your body. this stuff is tough, but it's just interesting to me. Believers ought to be at the forefront of this. We really should.

I love that. We should be leading the way. I think many of us are familiar with Mark 1230, where Jesus tells us, you know, to love the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, with all your strength. Jesus spoke into biblical wellness. And I know it's sometimes hard, but if this is a temple, are we making wise decisions on what we put in it? Our chief medical officer, Dr. Ian Day, has expanded our sort of health checklist because we compartmentalize all these things so much. But really, from a wellness perspective, should we be asking ourselves not only about what we're putting in our body, but how are we doing spiritually?

are we experiencing God's peace and our health and our emotion? And it's things like that. Even I'll talk to people and I'll tell my story and they'll go, yeah, man, I've been in a funk. And I will many times say, are you moving enough? Are you walking? Are you exercising? Are you resting? This is starting to get crazy, folks.

We're talking about really important stuff. Don't go away talking to Mark James, who's the chief sales and marketing officer of Medishear. We'll be right down. that I thought would never end. I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend. Welcome back. I'm at NRB in Dallas, folks. And you don't have to be in Dallas to listen to this program.

That's the magic of radio. We thank God for Enrico Marconi, who discovered radio waves. And you're able to hear this program from all kinds of places. It's crazy, but it works. And so I'm talking today to Mark James, Chief Sales, Mark John, Officer, Meta-Share. And you were just starting to share about, well, just keep going because it was, I feel like it's taking us into an important spot. Yeah, you know, I was talking about sort of expanding the checklist. And sometimes I'll have people say, man, you know, I relate to your brain fog conversation.

Or maybe I'm just in a funk today. Yeah. And so I will typically say, I'll actually go. to the physical and say, are you walking? Yeah. Are you moving? Yeah. When your Apple Watch says you should stand, are you standing or are you ignoring it? Yeah. And even to the point of, are you getting enough rest? I will say through my COVID journey, and I have to give a shout out to my wife because she's always said, hey, you give up sleep too much. Yeah. Like that's your extra gear that you go to and you can't do that. Well, during COVID, I was like, okay, I got to correct

that so I did. But it takes a lot of work to get the right amount of sleep. But I will go into that. Sleeping is hard work. It is hard work. It's hard work. And because there's so much you want to get done. No, it's funny. I remember Arnold Schwarzenegger once said brilliantly, somebody was going over how much they have to do in the day and whatever. And, you know, they only have six hours to sleep. And he says, well, then you have to sleep faster. I thought that's really funny because that's one thing you can't do. No. Actually, it's funny because if you have health challenges, as I've been talking about, I have

had, you have had. It forces you, in some cases, to do the right thing. It does. If I did not exercise, I would get sick. I couldn't function. If I did not sleep well every single night and be really regimented about it, like, it's like, no, I can't burn the candle at both ends. I will not do that.

I might as well start smoking crack. I will ruin my life. Don't do that. No, I was going to say. You can't join Medicare if you do that. Ah, come on. No, but seriously, like, I take this stuff very seriously. But for me, it's because I have to.

Yes. And you have experienced that where you just realize I have to do that. I have to do. And there are so many people that they don't really, they don't understand, you know, for, I mean, like, you know, people say, well, I'm old. I can't. You can walk. Walk. Walk. Walk. Force yourself to walk. Yeah. Put in some earbuds. Listen to something fascinating. You can listen to this show. There's nothing more fascinating than the sound of my voice. You can listen to this show. You can listen to anything you want. You can learn. Walk. Force yourself to walk 20 minutes. If you can't do 20 minutes, do 10 minutes. And then every day go a little farther. And the point is over time, because the goal is not today. The goal is three months from now to keep going, keep going, keep going. And I, when I had my chronic fatigue, I was too sick. really to exercise. I'd exercise and then I get

really sick. It would have this backlash effect. So I forced myself to go really slow, which goes against my grain. I was like, no, no, no, I've got to run a few miles. No, you're going to walk around, you're going to go slow. And then tomorrow do a little bit. Same thing, same thing. And just because the goal is long

term. It is. It's not about proven consistency. Right? And now there's research. Yeah. But back when I was a gymnast, you know, one of the things we were taught was how do you do an iron cross? Oh, that's easy. I was just doing one of my hotel room before I jumped up here.

But go ahead. I'll humor you. But, you know, you eat the elephant one bite at a time. Okay. And for people who don't know what an Iron Cross is. Oh, my gosh. Like when I see, you know, watching Olympics, when somebody does an Iron Cross, you're like, dude, that's impressive. Yeah.

Were you able to do that? Because I have no clue. That's astonishing. Yeah. What are the main, what are the main, most? in the Iron Cross. What are we talking about? Is that everything?

Chest, shoulders, yeah. Tries. Tries. Right. And then abdominal. Yeah. Yep.

Okay, I'm on it. I'm all over that. Yeah. But, no, but so the point is, I mean, I've heard people say this with pull-ups or dips or any of that stuff. If you can't do it, like, that's okay. You can get there. Yeah. You can get there.

Yeah. And you've experienced this. I can tell the way you talk that I tell people all the time that, um, You know, you begin to work out or move for the physical, but really the benefit is the mental. Yeah. The power of the endorphins and the way your mind works, it is incredible. And when you add in the faith component, then we begin to see God's design for wellness. And our Medishear community, you know, really rallies around that idea.

and we think and want to make more normative this idea of biblical wellness. Well, I mean, it's kind of like your brain works differently when you're exercising. It's like being in the shower. I had a thought in the shower this morning. Why? There's something about, you know, you're in this other place and your brain works differently and things pop up. Yeah.

That's happened to me with exercise where I'll get ideas or whatever. Your brain can roam and everybody's brain is different, but my brain races. And so exercise enables me to think, to think back. And listen, for anybody out there who feels like, you know, most of the time, I don't want to exercise. I just do it. And once I start doing it, I like it. But to get out the door to do it, that's the toughest part. And that's where you have to – because I think a lot of people have this wrong idea that, like, oh, well, you just – you know, you just love doing – it's like, no, no, no.

it's the same for a lot of people that you just I mean, I've been in places where I have enjoyed it, but I'm saying that there are times when you don't enjoy it you, you do it anyway. That's right. And God meets you. It's a fascinating concept. It's one of my favorite times is to walk at night when it's quiet outside. You know, I'm getting

my movement in, and it's not always that I'm in prayer or in a conversation with God, but it's a pretty special time. All right. We're going to have to leave it there. I've been talking to Mark James, who's the chief sales and marketing officer of Medishare.

Meta-Share. Mark James, thank you. Thank you. Hey, the folks, welcome back. I suddenly find myself in hour two of today's program. It's Thursday. I have the honor of speaking with an old friend, Tim Mahoney, who's made a film called The American Miracle. Tim, welcome back.

Hey, I'm glad to be back. Thank you. Now, listen, I would have made a film called the American Miracle, if you hadn't already decided to make it. Because I read Michael Medved's book. I said, this is one of the most amazing books ever. I had him speak at a Socrates in the city in Seattle. You were in attendance at that, and I found out you guys were making the film, and I'm so excited.

You've now made the film, and seated betwixt us, is His Excellency, General George Washington. General Washington, welcome. Pleasure to be with you, sir. It's not often that I get to interview historical figures, so I'm a little bit at a loss for words. It's difficult. Let me ask you, while you were participating in this film, were you aware that it was a film or not? Sir, they asked me to arrive at certain locations, attired in certain ways, and at that time, I did not know, but they said they wished to present an entertainment. It was as much a mystery to me how they intended to capture that entertainment as could be imagined.

And it's a mystery to me, too, because it's all digital now. It used to be on film, and now it's all digital. So we're similar in being mystified by this. I have to ask you, Tim Mahoney, tell my audience, because I want them more than anything. I want to speak with the general at length, but I want my audience to know how they can see this motion picture. when will it be appearing? This film is a spectacular film about the founding of our nation in God's providential hand. And it's going to be in theaters nationwide starting June 9th.

It's a Fathom Entertainment Project. And it's going to be June 9th, 10th, 11th. And we want people to vote for freedom to see this film because they have not heard this story yet. This is in some ways the untold story of America's providential founding. And that's why this is so significant. We've got a lot of great characters in this movie. I want to say that no one knows better than I that the involvement of Providence, the hand of Providence in this country is undeniable. Anyone who does deny it is being willfully ignorant.

When you look at the facts, you can only look at a few of the facts, but then if you look at all the facts, it becomes absolutely overwhelming. And Michael Medved, in his book, makes it so. clear. I was absolutely astonished. I've written, I wrote a book called If You Can Keep it, where I talk about some of that in my own book. But in The American Miracle, he makes it very, very clear. Anybody interested in a great book should read The American Miracle. But Tim, when did you decide to make this into a film? Because that's a big deal. Yes, about two years ago, Michael contacted me and asked me if I could help him. And it was such a huge project because you're dealing with historical

recreations, battle scenes. We're crossing of the Delaware, the Constitution, you know, Independence Hall. And so we had to costume. We had to, we had about 100 actors and about 300 plus extras in all this, lots of unique things we were trying to portray. And it's been just turned into a spectacular film. And then we got the great scholars like Robert George, Robbie George, as they say, from Princeton and and others that are giving this, they're saying yes, and this is what it means.

And I know, I realize when you made the film, you were unaware that I, I'm a great scholar on this subject as well. And I'll forgive you for that. But what I won't forgive you for is not casting me as one of the historical figures in the film. FI on you, sir. Yes, I'm sorry about that. I'm, well, it's your loss and the film's loss. But there's more films coming. Perhaps we can remedy that in the future.

Yes, that's right. I have to ask, His Excellency General Washington, who's seated next to me here, were you able to interact with any of these figures? Can you share? For example, we know that you spent time with Thomas Jefferson. You were together, I believe, in the House of Burgesses in Virginia before the war. He was very young then. He was only in his 20s. Indeed. By the time of the writing of the declaration, he was but 33.

Yes, and most people don't know that it was Benjamin Franklin, with whom you were also acquainted, who came up with the term self-evident. Yes. Dr. Franklin, I have known since I was in my 20s during the French and Indyenne War. It was the first time I encountered him. At that time, the most famous man in all of America. I didn't know that you would pronounce it Indyan. Do you know that in our generation we pronounce it Indian? I've heard many strange things said. I heard someone refer to the river that runs just outside my home.

I'm not quite sir how they said it. We always say it in the proper way, which is the Patamac. The Patamac. And you are in the country of sir? What country are we in? What country are we in here? What country are we in the United States of? We're in the United States of America?

Not at all, sir. No. We are in the United States of Ameriqae. America? Indeed, sir. Uh-huh. Well, it says you. But I'm sitting here with his excellency president, George Washington, because as much as you were a general, you were the first president of the United States.

Or am I meeting you at a time in your career when you haven't yet been inaugurated? Oh, no, I have been, sir. It is just that I have always preferred the title. of general to president and since retiring from the position of president. I am now very glad to say Mr. Adams can have that title all to himself. I see. So what year do in what year are you now, then? You're not aware of the year, sir.

No, I'm not aware of the year in which you're appearing. You have been much more ill than you let on. That's very true. Indeed. I have a, well, you don't want to make love. light of the fact that I have the pox and I could I could expire at any moment and then you'll be very embarrassed. But the fact is that you, your two terms carried you to the beginning of 97. Is that right? That is correct. Okay. And so we're, so you might not realize it, but you're going to be dead

in about a year and a half. I hate to say, I hate to be so blunt. Do I seem unwell to you, sir? Not at all, not at all. I have not complained of any ailments today, but you seem to have. I think in 1799, you're going to kick the old bucket. I just want to be clear, folks can expect the film in June. That's right. We're going to be, tickets are going to be on sale in May. Starting in May, May 9th, we're going to be having tickets nationwide. We're in over 1,000 theaters is the plan.

Right. And if they go to American MiracleMovie.com, American MiracleMovie.com, they can sign up and get updates, videos, and behind-the-scenes videos, learning the story. But this is an epic presentation of a... an untold story at an incredibly important time in our history. And I understand I'm not in the film, but I'm not bitter, folks. I'm promoting it in good faith.

No, seriously, it's the American miracle. You've got to check it out. All right. We'll leave it right there for now. Welcome back. We've been talking to movie making big shots. And now it's just, Chris, it's just you and me again. Yeah.

We're not yet movie making big shots. We're making moves, but they're small moves. But we're, yeah. So we're at the NRB. I'm not kidding when I say that a figure, styled as George Washington. Perhaps it's not actually George Washington, but close enough.

It's as close as I'm going to get. He's going to be on this show. I think we're going to air that tomorrow. But I cannot wait to talk to him. Yeah, he's here. He's still a general, generally speaking. And he's keeping it. He's holding it down.

Well, the fact that he cannot tell a lie is extraordinary because I can ask anything. Yeah. You know? And all right. I haven't seen him since I found some change in my pocket this morning. So it's wild to see him. Isn't that incredible?

Yeah. It's incredible. It's, well, I, uh... He's part of a film that's coming up. Before, yeah, no, we're going to be talking about that stuff. So before we, uh, go much farther, we have... We, we maybe, we'll talk to Tim Mahoney in the next segment. We can, we can, uh, plug him in to talk about the film.

Sure. Featering George Washington here. But, um, I want to reiterate what I was saying beforehand about the crew. because we just met with the cruise folks yesterday. Yeah. And they made it clear to me how this works because they have a number of rooms reserved for our group. And then the cruise company, which it's Norwegian cruises, they eventually take back those rooms. So they took them back and they said that it's over.

And then they gave them back to us recently and said, well, we'll give them back to you for a short time. We don't know how long. So I want to reiterate to anybody interested. inquire as soon as possible, and the best place to do that is Ericmetaxis.com slash cruise, ericmataxis.com slash cruise. I should also mention our friends at the Herzog Foundation. If you're interested in homeschooling or quality K-12 Christ-centered education, and I hope you are, Herzog Foundation is the resource.

They are a foundation. They're there to help you. They're not looking for something from you. They don't want to sell you anything. They want to help you. And I've said many times, I think there's nothing more important than quality education. Most of us by now are aware that most public education has been hijacked by lunatics. And they're not merely lunatics.

There are people with an aggressive, sick agenda. And it's very, very important that we are aware of that and we do what we can. for our kids and for the future of the nation. So check out HerzogFoundation.com. HerzogFoundation.com. They're there to help. So in our two, we're going to be talking to our friend Mark James from Mediciere. He has an extraordinary story.

I had a really wonderful conversation with him. We're going to air that. And we have had so many wonderful conversations. I don't even have the list in front of me, but the last few days we've just had so many conversations. Steve Day. Tim Barton. Maybe we'll play those tomorrow.

Alex McFarland, Ryan Bangert from ADF. Yeah, every one was fascinating. So we're going to be playing those of the next days and over next week. I should remind folks as well, I keep talking about, you know, President Trump is draining the swamp. He's draining the swamp. I wrote a children's book titled Donald Drain's the Swamp. I can't tell you that it's scintillating because that would be, you know, praising myself. And yet it is, but I just can't tell you that. But it's really, it's fun. It's

called Donald Drain's the Swamp. And the best place to get that and most of my books is at my store.com. That is the website of our friend, the American hero, Mike Lindell, my store.com. All of the Donald kids books are available at my store.com. You have to use the code, Eric, to get the whopping discount, and it is a whopping discount. It's like all three books would be $60, but it's like $34.99 for all three. So that's at mystore.com. My store.com. Use the code, Eric.

We'll be right back.