The Eric Metaxas Show - Willie and Korie Robertson (Encore)

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Willie and Korie Robertson of Duck Dynasty share their movie based on a true story: "The Blind".

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Hey there. We're significant. I'm joking around. You're all significant, but you, I love you guys. I've got to know you. And I was so excited when I heard about this film called The Blind. Tell my audience what this is about. And I know Willie, you lived a little bit of this.

So tell my audience what this film is about, which is opening this Thursday. This Thursday. September 28th. Yeah. Yeah, I live just a piece of it. So most of my memories happen as soon as the film ends. That's where my memories began. I am played on it by a,

we had to find the right actor to be Little Willie at two years old. That was very important to me. It's hard to find little children with beards, but you found it. It really is. So we found a great candidate named John Shepherd Robertson, who is my grandson. So my grandson's playing me on a movie about my dad, which is, how about that? That's pretty cool.

Pretty surreal. He did great, too. I figured, I felt like he captured, in essence, who I was. I mean, listen, look, this is so, I know, I have, you know, been to your home and eating your mother's cooking and gone duck hunting with your dad. and Uncle Sy. And I have an affection for you all and I know the story,

the amazing story of your father's story, your mother's story with your father, whatever. So that's what this film is about. I think a lot of people will be shocked and blessed by this story because they didn't know it. So the title is the blind, obviously

referring to the duck blind, I guess at least in part, but also the blind leading the blind. What, I mean, this is a feature film. This is a, this is a, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is a feature film about your father's story. It's a real movie, yeah. So we, uh, so Corey and I got into really production after Doug Vagney's because we realized the importance of media and TV shows and movies.

And so we wanted to bring, uh, positive stories out. And we didn't plan on doing it particularly about us or our family in any way, but we, this story came up and we were like, wow, we, we really feel like we need to tell this story, especially now that film care, you know, since they're still hearing, can tell us all the memories they have because some of the people in the movie have passed on. And so we want to get the real story.

So it says this is a true story. It's not based on true stories. It's literally comes out of their mouths and everybody who was around at that time. And yeah, it's a story of redemption. It's faith-based. And that obviously we're of faith. But most of the movie is not,

I mean, it was hard to keep it. not rated R. Just because it feels life was so out of control. And it's the story of him with this struggle. And you realize how this family ended up doing all these things. But it was so close to being over and none of it would happen. So if that moment of faith doesn't happen, if that relationship doesn't stay together, my life looks completely different.

I probably don't meet her. I mean, obviously we have no company. We have no TV show. Well, so wait, so tell the story because, again, I know this story. Your father, who is a wild man today in the good sense, was a wild man in a bad sense. He was a maniac, you know, like a character out of a, I don't know, out of a novel, out of a Cormac McCarthy novel. So tell my audience just up front, what is the story? What is the gist of the story?

Yeah, so we go back to their childhood. It's neat because it's like 50s, 60s, early 70s, like timepiece and the set, designer. and costume designer did an amazing job. But we went back and told their story from when Bill and Kay met, like Kay was a teen mom. She got pregnant in high school. Phil was the father of Al, their first son. And then they got married, very young, went off to college.

There's Terry Bradshaw's in the film, which, if you know Phil's story, he was the starting quarterback ahead of Terry Bradshaw. So you see a little bit of that play out. Wait a minute, wait. You're so familiar with this, you don't understand how dramatic that is. Because again, I know this story. Yeah. So your father, I mean, on the one hand, he's this wild man, but he goes to college.

So what's the school that he goes to? Louisiana Tech, yeah. Louisiana Tech. Now, just for perspective, because some of your viewers might say, well, that's not a big school and that's not. Terry Bradshaw ended up being the first college pick of 1970. So the number one draft pick, which, I mean, now we're thinking like that's, I mean, you're set for a lot. and all that. Terry was the number one pick. Terry was backing up Phil. So obviously, I wasn't around to know how good he was. But if you were starting ahead of the guy who would end up in the

Hall of Fame and all that, you know, it was, it was, they had these two quarterbacks there. And Bradshaw says himself, had they been there at the same time, Bradshaw never would have played. He never would have got on the field. And Phil not put football. Yeah. That was before the transfer portal. Yeah. That's how that. Because most people would just not, would not get that. You know, when you look at you dead today, you cannot picture him. him as that guy, you know, 50 plus years ago throwing a football with that level of excellence.

And so now at that point, your parents were married. Ish. Yeah. None of us are still, even though we researched this movie. It's hard tracking out exactly when that happened. Actually, I think they finally got married after Jace was born. So, yeah, they made it through college. everything.

Wait, so they're together. They're together. But they were not, but they didn't, but they didn't tie the not officially until a little bit later. They said they had a hippie wedding. That's what they call it. And we don't know what that means. I can explain that to you.

It involves flowers in your hair. You write your own vows. And you say it on a, on a fancy knolls. And a couple of kids being born. So that's what that's what that looks like. looked like, yes. But we did put a story in there about Bradshaw. Now, I know this is true because Bradshaw told me this story when I was probably 13 years old. He was at, he came to our mall in Monroe, Louisiana. He was at Dillard's Men's Department store. This is where his career was at the

time. And so mom said, oh, Terry Bradshaw, your dad played with him. And so she took me up there. And when we got up there and he recognized Kay, and he goes, and he tells me this story about Phil taking a bass fishing. And it's a really funny story. I don't want to give him. Your father taking Terry Bradson. Yeah, when they were in college. And so we put that whole story in the movie.

That was from, that was from Terry. Terry tells us that story. Phil had actually not told me that story. Well, in Phil actually, in research in this movie, we didn't know this, but Phil actually nicknamed Terry the blonde bomber. So he got his nickname from Phil in college. So this is back, this is so far back that Terry Bradshaw had hair. Yes, he did.

Wow, that's like before the flood. That's a long time. Yeah. So Phil's has this promising career, but, you know, he's got two kids already. And he ends up, he goes on to teach school. He gets his master's in English, goes on to teach school. Wait, stop. Stop.

Here we go again. Yes. Wildman, Phil Robertson. Yes. Got his master's degree in English. English. I just want to say, Eric McTax has got his BA in English. I never got a master's degree. The idea that your father, who most people think of as a just a wild man who kills ducks, he got a master's decree in English and was a teacher. Yes, he was. He was. But during that time period, he was not not doing so well. That's when the drinking started partying. Really, it started in college, but then it led to about 10 years of alcoholism, addiction, adultery, abuse is as bad as you can get. Yeah, it was as bad.

Yeah, it was really bad. That was his wild man period, for sure. Oh, yeah. And this is where, and this is where the marriage starts falling apart. He kicks us out of the house. And then that's when he goes to live in the woods by himself. He's running from the police, actually. And so, I mean, again, I guess I always want to hit pause.

Like, goes to live in the woods by himself. Yeah. That's pretty dramatic. And I have heard this story. I think I heard it from your mother and your father about that moment where he kicks his wife and children out of the house. I mean, this is some dark stuff. I mean, it ends so well. But in the middle of it, I just can't imagine what that would have been like.

Yeah, and that's the thing. It's not Doug Bownesty. So it's not, you know, Doug Bownesty's kind of the fruits of the labor of them staying together after all these years. And so, yeah, there wasn't a lot of. happy times during those times. And so there's some moments. Yeah, there's some moments we have. I'm sorry. You know what? We're going to a break. We'll be right back, folks. I'm talking to Willie and Fri Robertson. Don't go away. Hey, folks, you've all helped support MyPillow and their employees in these tough economic times. Mike Lindell knows this and continues to give back to listeners with deals on his

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Yeah, I was saying there's some fun moments on it too. I think a lot of people enjoy young Uncle Si. So we get to see. So there's actually three versions of Kay and Phil and Sae. There's the kid version and then the teenager and then we have the adult versions. But it's pretty funny watching the little kid, sigh, and the teenage side, how all that quirkiness began. So you see where this was forming, turning him in. So we do have some moments like that that are on the movie. But, you know, I've got to be honest, most of it is gritty and tough. It's, it's, it's, and I was so thankful for Kay and Phil, because they've always been transparent about their lives. But, you know, to dig up these old wounds and skeletons and, you know, put it out there, you know, for everyone to see was, it was tough.

I mean, I know it's tough on Phil and Kay as well. I'd say it's been much harder on them than we thought. guess because they have, like you said, you've heard their story. They written it in books. They told it, which it's impacted millions of lives already, just people hearing their story and, you know, their stories on YouTube. But it's one thing to like hear it. Another thing to see it on a screen with actors portraying you. And so that's been hard. I mean, there's been some tears shed for sure as we watched it as a family. Like we were all bawling, including Phil, which you know, you don't see. That's very rare. So, but from day one, they both have said.

like if this can help one person, if it saves one marriage, if it helps one person, if one person meets Jesus because of it, then it's all worth it. And so just to see their humility in that and their willingness to like say, yeah, we'll show the hardest parts, the darkest parts, the worst moment of our life to help somebody has been really powerful for us to see. Well, that's huge. And it's really, it's very, very important, you know, because it will touch life. It will touch lives in a way that a book won't because now everybody reads books.

So where will the film be available, this film called The Blind releasing this week? Yeah, it's all over the country. I think we're in like 1800 theaters now. And you can go to theblindmovey.com and type in your city. It'll tell you what theater to go to. And yeah, it comes out Thursday. We're only guaranteed one week. So we need you to go this first week.

Get out there and see it. And, you know, the more people who see it, of course, hopefully we'll get another week. And then we hear Taylor Swift is coming into theaters and going to bust everybody out. So we got a couple of weeks here to make our statement. Well, look, this gets to something I've said many times on this program and when I'm giving speeches around the country. Ladies and gentlemen, you need to support these things. You have an obligation. And inertia, that's Satan, inertia, to do nothing. you need to do the right thing and support these kinds of films. Bring your friends, get your church involved.

It's vital. You know, it's part of saving America is that we have to bring these stories into the media, into the mainstream. And God bless you guys for doing that. That's something that I am myself trying to do with a number of projects because this is a vital, vital piece of the battle, of this ideological war that we're in. It's really a spiritual war.

We have not gotten stories like this into the mainstream in most of our lifetimes, you know. And so the fact that you're doing this, I'm thrilled and proud of you, but people need to support it. So folks, it's this week, this Thursday, and you need to make a point, make a date, make an appointment, write it down and make sure you do this because these are the kinds of films that need to be promoted, to be supported and we know that the culture will do everything it can not to tell the story of somebody like a Phil Robertson because they hate his guts because he speaks the truth and they are often enemies of the truth. Where do you guys, you know, when you said you were after the end of Duck Dynasty, you were talking about wanting to get into media. So how did that happen? Because that's been on my heart for decades. It's so clear strategically that's where we

ought to be. So how did that happen for you for you two? Well, really, it was that dynasty. I think it just kind of opened our eyes to the power of entertainment and how it shape how it's shaping our culture. It made me more conscious of like what I'm watching and what I'm intaking because I was like, oh, entertainment actually moves people and shapes people. It's art. So it's not neutral. It's moving you one way or another. And for our show, we saw, we have this, you know, fun little show about our family, but we ended with a prayer and just that one simple little thing, how it impact people. People would come up with tears. Like our family now sits down and has a prayer together because of your show or our, my husband goes to church because he saw real men that love God and are normal

people, you know, or like I watched it with my dad when he had cancer and it just brought joy and it, you know, how the emotional impact and the cultural impact. And then people started going beers and wearing camos and you know, you're like, oh, this is actually moving. people and shaping people. And then you're like, oh, how is the other way? And how much more of entertainment is shaping? It's shaping us in the other way and all the agendas that are out there on the other side. How is that shaping us? And I actually heard a speaker one time and he was talking about kind of like the seven cultural mountains and the different, you know, politics and religion and education, entertainment. And he said in today's world,

that the mountain of entertainment is like the mountain. Everything else is hills in its shadow because of how much we're consuming of entertainment. And so that was that was really the impetus for us and just say like, oh, we need to do more of this. Like we need more entertainment that that helps culture that like has positive values, has messages of faith, has, you know, family, family friendly entertainment, things like that that move our culture in a positive direction rather than in, you know, a negative direction. The film is the blind. You got to see it.

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It's called The Blind. The Blind. So we were just talking, Willie and Corey, about, you know, your sense of how important entertainment is. And I've talked many times on this program and everywhere in my life for decades about this very issue where Christians and conservatives and, have dropped the ball on this issue, that we have let the left, the anti-American loony left, increasingly now, woke loony left, kind of tell these stories. And people don't even know stories of beautiful redemption like the one that you're telling in this film this week, the blind. People don't know, I didn't know until Duck Dynasty existed, as you just said, Corey, that, you know, real men,

can love God and could, you know, and so this is very powerful stuff. And it's at the center of my life. And that's why when I heard you were doing this, I was just so excited. Do you have other projects and things that you're working on these days? We do. Yeah. We have a few other, a couple of documentaries that we're working on that we're really excited about, another film that's kind of next on the docket, which now I think the whole, the

The strike just ended. So that's helpful for that kind of thing. Yeah. So that's very helpful. So yeah, we do. We started tread lively productions, really the idea that like we're not supposed to tread lightly as Christians. We need to tread lively.

God calls us so an abundant life. And that was something that I saw too when we did that Dynasty, this kind of like fear of Hollywood in Christian circles, you know, which obviously you're not, not you. But there's definitely a, you know, within whenever we decided we were going to do this, you know, well-meaning Christians were like, oh, you're going to go to Hollywood. Like, you know, like, it's going to destroy your family. Or you're going to let your daughter, you know, do dance for the stars. It's so scary.

But we're like, oh, don't we have the spirit of God in us? We're supposed to be going into these places, which should be the light of the world. We should be going into the darkness, not retreating from. And so that's kind of been a message that we felt like we, you know, when anybody comes us as like, oh, I have this opportunity. I'm a believer to be in Hollywood. I'm like, yes, like go. Like, we need more of that.

Well, obviously, though, I mean, the problem is, you know, you have to go knowing what you're getting into. You have to go with wisdom and the Holy Spirit. Otherwise, they'll eat you alive. But that's, you know, when I first encountered you all and Duck, I see, I couldn't even believe it, that there was something on mainstream TV with a family like you guys that prayed. I said, this is a cultural breakthrough. This is a big deal. And so I'm glad that you are, you know, of expanding on that and that you're putting stuff like this out there.

And I think there's a lot of signs of hope. I mean, the sound of freedom was an example of that, the Jesus Revolution, an example of that. But we need way, way, way more. We need way more of this stuff. People are hungry for this stuff. And I feel like the left, you know, enough decades have passed that you're able now to see the bankruptcy, the lunacy of their ideas.

Like they were kind of hiding it for a while, but it's now out in the open as pure, like insane propaganda. And I think a lot of people are pulling away from that because it's become so open and so sick. And they're more, they're hungry for things like what you all are doing. Does anybody notable, is there anybody notable in this film? Is this no name actors who are getting a big shot? Where was Dennis Quaid playing Phil Robertson? So we have Amelia Eve plays Ms. Kay and Aaron Von A.J. in place Phil and they're actually both British and so they had to get the accents down which was a whole thing yes they did a fantastic job we had them so we had a big crawfish bowl which that's a

Louisiana thing um we had a crawfish bowl and had a lot of the actors that were playing the main characters there and Phil and Kay were there so they got to just sit down with them and really like absorb their accents and mannerisms and everything which was really cool and we even had Phil So there's kind of a narration that that drives the film. And we had the real Phil read that. And that way it could really be in his own words. And if, you know, we shifted things that made the script be really in Phil's words. And then the actor was able to have that to, you know, use to really embody the character, which was, which is fun to see.

It was, I mean, this is our first film. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was amazing. But how do you guys, I mean, it's just funny to me, Willie and Corey, like that you guys are, you just dove in the deep end of the the pool creating, you know, top level entertainment. Obviously, this didn't happen overnight, but it's just amazing and gratifying to me. And I think to everybody listening that you are doing this stuff.

Yeah, we went in with my cousin, Zach Bashar, who is with us on Tread Lively. And Zach's mother, my aunt, Jan, who's passed away, was the one on the movie. And you'll see her she'll be very prominent. She's the one who never gave up on Phil. She's the one who talked that preacher into going up to that bar and sharing his faith. And she's the one who told the preacher, she said, if you convert Phil Robertson, he'll convert thousands. Now, how she saw that at the time was amazing because this guy's like Loserville, like, you know, just out of control. But she saw that.

And so actually, that's our partner, my cousin, Zach, who's been in the same way. He's been out there on the front of this with culture and trying to change things as well. So he does worse with Phil and Jace and all their podcasts and all their stuff. And so, yeah, I mean, I think together we just all kind of have that kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of spirit of saying, hey, let's, let's jump in and do it. How hard can it be? And it was very hard. It was his hardest.

It was pretty difficult. Well, no, this is hard, but it's worth it, right? I mean, we spend, you know, many, many years trying to get the Bonhofer film done. That's coming out next year. I'm excited that some of these stories are getting told. And a lot of people are having the choice, actually, you know, to see something like this rather than whatever garbage is being offered to them. And as I say, the garbage is, it's getting worse. It's getting more and more, you know, Hollywood has often been, has been out of touch, basically, in our lifetimes with what America wants.

but it's gotten increasingly out of touch so that there's a point now where you just say, like, I'll just stay home. But you guys are producing films like this. So we've got a final segment coming up. But folks, you got to see this. You got to make this a win for these kinds of films. It's called The Blind.

You can go to theblindmovie.com. Find out where it's playing. Please make an effort. Theblindmovie.com. We'll be right back. Welcome back. I'm talking to Bill Robertson's, Well, actually, just to some of the Robertsons,

to Willie and Corey Robertson about the film opening up this week, The Blind. Willie, you had something you were going to say. Yeah, I had one big thing I wanted to tell you. Now, Eric, you've done a lot of cool things in your life. You really impressed us, but really, Corey, was something you did recently. She was so impressed with your interview with Jordan Peterson. I loved it. She came and said, you have to let you.

I sent it to my whole family. You were fantastic. Yeah. So good. And we interviewed with him as well, which was the hardest interview I've ever done. Can I tell you what? Listen. It was the longest.

My wife, Suzanne, told me that she was texting with you, Corey, and that you had heard my Jordan Peterson thing. And, of course, I was thrilled that Jordan Peterson asked me to do his podcast. and he can be difficult to talk to. And so when Suzanne told me that you guys were doing his podcast, I said, wait, what? Like what? What, you know, like what? How in the world did that happen?

Because I do not see Jordan Peterson being aware of Duck Dynasty or whatever. How did that happen? And how. Willie's going to have to tell this story because this is funny. We were speaking at Ramsey's, uh, entre leadership event together. I mean, not together on the, but he was a speaker. I was speaker. So I had spoken the day before he spoke. He came off the stage and I was going to meet him. I said, hey, I said, my wife's a huge fan of yours. So I've loved him for a little time, read all

his book. I hear this little Canadian accent from her closet, from the bathroom. And then she tries to explain to me, which I have no idea. And so I said, hey, she's a big fan, great speech. And so he looks at me and he goes, oh, well, what were you doing? at the conference and I said, Willie Robertson just did a Canadian accent on the airport to Texas show. Lord, you can take me now.

Like I can't. There you go. I said, well, I was one of the, I was, I gave a speech. And he looks at me and I can tell he's not, there's a little facial profiling going on. He's looking at me like, it's impossible. So then he he asked a question there. This is the funniest thing

I've ever heard. He goes, did you speak to the whole group? that's an insult that's a Canadian insult I think he was just trying to figure out like was there a different

was there something with the like the the rough the business you know and he just figure it out and so

and I said I did I said I was on the same stage as you and now he just he cannot you should have hauled off and punched him well no

no no no no then he says what did you what did you talk about and I said neuroscience and Canadian politics now that one for the first

time I had Jordan Peterson speechless he didn't know what to say I don't know if am I supposed to laugh I was going to say that that's hilarious neuroscience and Canadian it was great and everybody around us started laughing

and I said I'm just joking me man I gave most of them thank you but he I joked with him on the podcast and like you know it's it's kind of like to me it's a challenge to get somebody like that to laugh. But he cracked me up. He said, when he, when he, you heard it right now. In the podcast, he said to me like, so, you know, you were in the Yale English department and you became a Christian. He says, so, so he says, when did you switch your tune? Or why did you

switch your tune? And I just laughed out loud. Like, what a funny way to ask how you became a Christian. But I'm thrilled that he has invited you guys on. So that was great. So that's what we met. And then he, and then when they said Doug Darnest, then he was like he was embarrassed he didn't realize and he was like uh because you know he had just spoken for an hour comes off this and i know i caught him like right when it comes i get it like you walk off and somebody puts a homeless guy in front of you like hey i was a speaker and so you're like you know i mean it was this is too funny we got to get you back like asap even for a short interview we're out of time right now folks the film is the blind you have an obligation ladies and gentlemen

please go see the blind go to the blind movie dot com will he and cordial Thank you.