The Exorcist Files - Fr. Cruz Shares Exorcism Stories

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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Very interesting. Many cases were freed because of the rosary. Sometimes I was just praying the rosary, and the person is manifesting already. Why? Because the mother of God. In fact, one of the, one of the exorcism, but this one is during exorcism, while I started at the beginning of the rosary, and then all of a sudden the person jumped up and said, stop what you're doing. It's hurting me. And Father Pugh was right in saying that the rosary is a weapon, but I say, why? Because that woman is hurting me. I said, who is that woman? I said, who is that woman?

I said, in the name. That woman who always defeats us. I said, you mean the mother of God? And just curse us. And I said, so because your queen is here, really, the one who defeats you, wow, that really get the demons. angry because they said we could not imagine to be humiliated by someone below us. Welcome back to The Exorcist Files, the show where the gospel we share invites you to deliverance and prayer. I am your co-host. You Love Second Most, Rhine Bethay, and with me is exciting news today

because I know we get lots of emails saying, bring on more exorcists, give the people what they want. and I am honored and privileged to welcome a new friend of the show, Father Robert Cruz, to the show. Father Cruz, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for the invitation and the opportunity to help other people to have a better grasp of this beautiful ministry, the ministry of compassion of God. Amen. Well said. I appreciate that. Actually, people always call it spooky and terrifying, et cetera, but it is a ministry of compassion and love first and foremost. But, Father, I know I know a lot of our guests who are priests hate this,

but we need to just let you introduce yourself to the fans and to the audience, and don't be modest, as you all are so much. But would you introduce yourself to the fans so they can get a little flavor of who you are and what kind of ministry you've been up to? Yes, just a little bit probably, just like what you said. I am Father Robert Cruz. I belong to the AIE, the International Association of Exorcists. I am the English-speaking coordinator for the English secretariat.

That means I had the English-speaking secretariat for the English-speaking countries. And so that gives me opportunity to visit other countries, to see their brother priests, rather exorcists, how they're doing with their ministries, give them some training. In fact, I'm just coming back about a month and a half ago from Malawi, starting the first formal training for the exorcist in Malawi to the, because of the conferences of bishops there. So we were able to provide them with the formal training for the first time, and the priests were so excited,

and the bishops who were there who requested that we do give training, in fact, it's so beautiful at the end of the one week training. The Malawi exorcists established their own association as the Association of Catholic Exorcists of Malawi. But I started not as an exorcist. I started in the healing ministry by the grace and mercy of God about more than 30 years ago. Then eventually at the deliverance ministry and then to the ministry of exorcism since my bishop already saw that I am involved in the spiritual warfare in some sense. So he asked me to continue the ministry now with the additional work and the ministry of exorcism.

So it's been a long time now since I am involved in healing and deliverance and exorcism. And by the grace of God, as I said, I continue to witness the power of God and the power of our lady and times of exorcism. But most of all, the mercy and compassion of God, because this is a ministry of mercy, we call it ministry of compassion. And so by the grace of God, I'm able to, as I said, travel in different parts of the world to help people. to help brother priests, especially in understanding, the correct understanding, the Catholic understanding of the Ministry of Exorcism. And I think that would be good for a riot right now. I have to ask, I mean, you are so young to be an exorcist, it seems. I read in Father Amorth's book, he mentioned that many exorcists are a little longer in the tooth, a little older. Obviously,

present company excluded, Father Maris excluded, but is that actually an accurate statement? Are many exorcists older and more... Generally, I would say generally, and also the understanding of many people would be that. I believe it's because of the requirement in appointing exorcists to have experience. Many people, as I said, I travel and give teaching and formation. And it always asks me how old am I, because they would think that I am just a seminarian, but I am not young, Ryan. And I just, in fact, to tell you, next year, it's my 30th anniversary as a priest. Wow. You have great skin, and it must be the angelic glow. It's the joy of the Holy Spirit.

Sometimes some exorcists call me the happy exorcist because it's already serious. And so for me, there's a joy. And for me, I always quote the scripture, the joy of the Lord is my strength. Amen. Well, you know, we have skincare products that sponsor our show, and they work. But I would say the best skincare, obviously, is just spend time in the presence of the Lord and get that glow. Oh, my goodness, that is good. And in Spanish, I like it, better put it, to spend time in the presence of the Dios, in the presence of God. All right, so, Father, let me ask you this.

This is sort of the initiation we always have to ask. Every Exorcists, we have a lot of agnostics and skeptics who listen to the show and say, show me the tapes. There's never any proof. We're just going off story after story. But to the person who says, really, Father? Come on, Padre. Demons, really?

I mean, how real? is this? It is more real than we would ever think. I always tell the people whether we believe it or not. Lucifer and the demons exist and they intend to create chaos. Maybe we don't believe that he's there, but if we look around, there's so much chaos, hatred, violence in the world. And just saying that, I don't think that by nature of people will be that violent and that evils. So there is something, there's a force that's really instigating everything. And that's what I said. Whether we believe him or not, he will.

Lucifer and the demons will create trouble. And why people will say, well, I cannot believe that. It's an old teaching. It may be. But probably before I get involved into these ministries, especially in the exorcism, I would take their position as well. Because it's hard to believe. Because normally I would just see it in movie.

and the movie really doesn't give the right representation of this ministry of spiritual warfare. But for me, it's hard to believe when in front of me this beautiful person changing faces and then voices coming out of this person and it's not this person. And sometimes it's three or four voices coming out of this person and it's not this woman in front of me. And in fact, one of the cases that I saw is this transformation is the lady from level. who was cursed with really badly, that when we started praying, her face changes. First, it's like a morph. The ears turned out, just turned into like the ears of the cow, the evil in the Ba'al when they worship Ba'al at that time. And yes, they can tell me it's not true, but in front of me with my team,

it's kind of hard to say it's not true because it's happening in front of me. And yes, the people will say, It was just stories after stories. Yes, they have a valid say to that because we cannot show many things what's happening in the exorcism because of the respect to the people, although I know there are some tape, especially a non-Catholic exorcism,

going through the media, but for us, especially in the association, we respect so much the dignity of the person and to remove the sensationalism that we don't want to be out there. It is called public in a sense that the prayer of the exorcism is done on behalf of the charts, and it's not, I'm not alone. I never do deliverance or exorcism alone.

It's always with people. And so they can say as much as they can that it's not true, and that's what the demon wants. Lucifer wants it to be that way, so that the people, so that they will not have any trouble infiltrating, their lives, influencing their lives. But I tell you, Ryan, for the last 15 to 25 years, I'd say many of our position in the AIE, AIE is the International Association of Exorcists, that be that Satan, Lucifer, and the demons are not hiding as much now. Because precisely,

in fact, in many of the exorcism, the demon said, people believe everything we create. people believe everything we say, but they doubt the very one who can protect them. They doubt God, and that's what we want it. So... Wow, that's crazy. Well, let me ask you this, Father, you know, I know a question that arises, and it's a sincere and one that I've meditated on a bit too, but why do you think God permits Lucifer and his demons to cause so much trouble? Is it because he wants us to stay battle ready and that it's just, just the point of life is to get to heaven and not to be content here. So he allows our adversary to roam around and prowl.

Because you think, man, humans, we make enough bad, I always think I make enough bad decisions on my own without the help of an enemy. But if someone came to you in your parish and said, you know, Father, I just, why does God allow this enemy to go after us? What would you say to that? That is one of the most difficult question and challenging, because if we say God is merciful, why did then he allows this? There are cases that when I handle even some of the cases of other people,

I remember with one of the cases I recorded with Emily Rose, she was given an option to be freed or to continue so that a true that's suffering, the mercy and love of God will be shown. And she said, I accepted to be continued. But why did God allow? The ultimate answer is we don't exactly. know, because in this great plan of God, I cannot understand myself why people will be possessed. But sometimes it is us who entered into this, because it is us in a sense of sin.

Satan really wants us to sin and the demons. There are not so much about the extraordinary actions of the devil with possession, diabolical obsession, and all. They want us to sin, because the moment we sin, we give them. them permission to influence our lives. And so they prefer, we call it in the AIE, as approved by the Holy See, we call it ordinary action. There are two actions of the demons, ordinary action and extraordinary actions. And they really want us to fall into the ordinary action because then they don't need to do anything. It is us who are bringing this hell, so to speak. It is us,

as you said, we make this poor choices out of selfishness. And if you watch the movie nefarious, the demon then was saying, sometimes it's the doing of the human beings already. We don't need to do anything because they choose to do evil. So by that, do you mean getting humans to, like, gossip and slander, to steal from each other, you know, to basically, like, divide us, you know, basically let humans just wreck their lives? Yes.

So why God, once we enter into it because of our own mistake, then God comes to help, you see? God comes to help even though we chose to sin, even though we choose to enter into satanic tact. Unfortunately, those in Satanism and those who enter into the occult, even though we have chosen that way, God, in His mercy, comes to help us and in his sense, our lady, to help us. So why do God allow in so many different reasons? But I would always say, if we are there, God, if we need help, God will be there and God will help us. Now, I imagine you've done a few exorcisms as we were talking about a bit offline. I'm curious, you know, in our show, we obviously, it's dramatized, et cetera.

But, you know, many times, you know, you mentioned the voices change. There are strange languages, multiple voices coming out of a person. the temperature will shift. You mentioned seeing people take on the illusion of, you know, animalistic qualities. Have you seen crazy things like levitation? Have you seen, you know, superhuman strength? What are some of the more, you know, bizarre phenomena you've witnessed in the room? Yes. One I would say is this particular case of a young lady is about 15 years old. She is a Latina. She never speaks. English at all. all. And so I've been praying with her now and then whenever I could see her. And in this particular

scenario, I started praying in English. And all of a sudden, she gets so irritated, so violently angry and just harass all of us and just say, stop whatever it is that you do when she spoke completely in English. And she never learned English. We have testimony from their families, never speak because they live in Central America. And so by that, already, that's one of the classic signs that were looking is to be able to speak and understand other language that the person never learned. And she just completely speak to with the eyes. And first, the eyes look up to us while we were praying with my team. And then the eyes, when I started about to pick up the crucifix, and the eyes just did not want to see the crucifix, our Lord.

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Because normally I am right here. The head is right there laying down. There's a force that pulled or just moved the young girl. and I have six people in the team, four guys and two ladies, and when they lift up, they could not lift her up. They could not just completely dead weight. And so I said, well, try to live up the head. The head they could not live up is like tons and tons of weight. And so when I grabbed the Holy Water and about to bless, there's again this force that's trying to pull.

And so I said in the name of Jesus Christ, I command. and it was released and we were able to pull her in back. But then I started praying the legs completely become so huge, like an elephant. It was trying, it's like a big leg, trying to hit me. And all of a sudden it can be so flexible, it's so interesting. But so those things already, those very strange things. And for the people who never see, you can say, well, we're just imagination. But it's hard because we're more than 10 people in the rooms.

and everybody saw it. So maybe I may be making it myself. They could tell me that I'm just imagining it, but when you have more than 10 people in the room and we're seeing the same thing, it's kind of hard to fool the people with that. So those scenarios. The other one is a young man,

about 22 years old. All throughout the exorcism, nothing happened for about an hour and a half. And I remember I have this bell of St. Michael from Italy. And I just started that using the bell, the sacramental, and the moment I ring the bell, very easy bell like this, the man just began foaming, look to me back away. His eyes turned to me, looking that way, and just said, stop what you're doing. I wanted to grab the bell because I said, why?

Why, in the name of Jesus? Because it's hurting our ears. So I know I'm not talking to the person because he started using it. plural forms and the voice, as has you said, the changing of temperature, but the voice is like booming inside and is coming from the death of hell, yes. Wow. Well, for whom does that bell toll? I love it. So, Father, let me ask you this. You know, you've mentioned two cases and they're both young individuals. Maybe a two-part question here. Are many of your cases, would you say they skew younger? And what are the main doorways that you find opened? And for context, we have many

exorcists come on and they say in many of most of their cases it's dabbling with the occult that has led to possession cases but is that been your experience or are there other doorways what are the main ways that people are getting demonized from your experience and that is correct your understanding of it is completely correct but of course for me because i'm seeing many other ways music for the young people i have yeah music there's so many there are a few numbers of cases mine and other people that I help music. Those listen to acid rock, music with full of rebellion. In fact, I remember this one young man who was a serving altar service, I started listening to music and get introduced to it, and then he started changing, wearing black, closing the door,

and beginning to not to have nothing to do with prayer. Those music, those, they are rebellious music and some of their are consecrated to Satan. So that music and also this could be, this is one of the expertise of my colleague in Austria, tattoos. They found tattoos. In fact, many of his cases from the tattooists, the people did not believe that they are demonic until the tattoo, in a few of his cases, the tattoo came alive that night that really spoke demonic. So that tattoo, sometimes we may think it's nothing, but it is. So music, our going away from faith, that's what the demons like, is that stop praying, stop all this, stop going to charge, receiving the Holy Communion, because these are powerful preventative measures for us. If we don't practice them, that's why,

as I said, sin, the more we step away from God, the more we step away from the protection of God, the easier it is for them because there are no more defense, so to speak, because we don't live in the life of faith. Wow. Now, I mean, the tattoo is very interesting. I've had, we had an Orthodox exorcist come on and say the same thing that some music, which again, he's like, it's not difficult to know. I mean, just, you know, we're supposed to dwell on, the scriptures say dwell on what is right and what is beautiful, what is true, and if the music is just irreverent and causing, you're causing your mind to go astray, then it's not good to listen to anyway. But he said some music was actually consecrated

to Satan. But on the tattoos, this is the first I've heard of, were people getting tattoos of just, you know, strange symbols that they thought, oh, that looked cool? And then they were unaware that the symbol had some sort of, you know, significance. Or is it Catholic theology that to mark oneself with any form of art is? Because obviously, people get tattoos of crosses and angels, etc. So where do you think the doorway was opened with that. Well, for one thing, men, I would say, I would not say all, but there are tattoo artists

who are satanic or demonic practitioners or occultic themselves, and so that when people come, they already consecrated the needles and the ink to Satan. And in fact, in one of the cases of the prison, Osirate,

was revealed that the tattoo was offered to Satan with some ritualistic prayers, that it really becomes so demonic to the person. And so that already in itself is very dangerous, because if the two artists are occultic practitioners, whatever he or she is putting, applying to you all these rituals that are now visible. And so it's an entrance of the demonic. Also, if the artist is really, say, for example, a satanic priest, he would be praying. You would think that the person is talking, but he would be saying prayers as he tattooed.

And the prayers are not the prayers we pray to the Lord, but are demonic prayers, curses, and spells. Wow. So let me take this a little further, obviously, right? Because it's one thing to go to a tattoo parlor. and I have many great Christian friends who, you know, tattoo scripture on themselves, et cetera. But if you take this, you know, further, because, for example, how do you know your doctor could be a cult and you wouldn't even know? And I'm being very extreme here. But like, what's, you know, how does a Christian think through? Because on one hand, we all live in an economy where we need service providers to help us. Of course.

And we can't spend our lives worrying that the butcher is sacrificing the meat to idols. And the tattoo ours has that. So what would you say to someone as far as like, hey, you know, don't be alarmed. I mean, there are people out there, right? But there's a lot of secret occult practitioners. So what's the proper perspective to have? Yes, I will tell them that live the faith, live the sacraments well, because if we live the sacraments, we have this protection from the Lord.

If we live our faith, we are putting our own defense, so to speak. I always ask people to your sacrament. I was blessed, blessed water, bless yourself. And yes, before you go, if I go to a place when I know it's already giving me an interesting feeling, well, for one thing, I will let go there. But if I would, if I need to go, like when I was doing research on one of my teaching, when I went to New Orleans, I know the places there are very infested with voodoo. So before I entered, I did already some preparation, some prayer protection myself. Because when I entered there, it did not give me a right feeling. And when you look at all these things, they're ready-made voodudal, how to curse people, how to put a spell. So I think you are right

in your questions. We cannot be afraid because we need these services. So how to defend oneself? Live your sacramental life. Live the faith. Pray daily. And always believe that God is with us because St. Paul is correct and by saying that if God is with us, who can be against us. Amen, because I know there's a lot of people who are afraid of going to the dentist and now you've made them wonder

if their dentist is secretly an occult practitioner with a bunch of scary tools. So don't be alarmed. Don't be alarmed. Your dentist is probably fine. Father, I want to ask you a little bit about your process. Father Martins often says that every exorcist, you know, they kind of, they use the ritual

as sort of a jumping off point, but, you know, every exorcist brings their own sort of unique style and flavor, if you will, with the prayers being very similar. But, you know, they all have kind of different ways of doing it. Father Martins has sort of a three-pronged question process that he'll ask the demon. So he'll try to ascertain the name of the demon. He'll ask the demon who its nemesis is in heaven, if it's tied to a particular saint. And then what purpose God had originally created the demon for? And that has borne some very interesting results in the room. Do you have any questions or a process that you follow when you're leading an exorcism?

Your question is while already, and not before, isn't it? Because we have listening session, the interview in the beginning. But in the prayer, it's interesting, and because we have many, yes, we have many different approach. One thing I do for when I pray, I pray, most of the times I could pray the rosary, because many, in fact, it's very interesting. many cases were freed because of the rosary. Sometimes I was just praying the rosary, and the person is manifesting already.

Why? Because the mother of God. In fact, one of the exorcism, but this one is during exorcism, while I started at the beginning of the rosary, and then all of a sudden the person jumped up and said, stop what you're doing, it's hurting me. And Padre P.U.

was right in saying that the rosary is a weapon, but I say, why? because that woman is hurting me, I said, who is that woman? I could not say the name. I said, who is that woman? I said, in the name, that woman who always defeats us? I said, you mean the mother of God? And just curse us.

And I said, so because your queen is here, really, the one who defeats you, wow, that really get the demons angry. because they said we could not imagine to be humiliated by someone below us because we are higher beings than her. So I said, in the name of Jesus I command, in the name of Jesus, say the prayer with me. And it took 30 minutes, hail Mary for a long time. So to say it, because God allows our lady to help. And for the demons, really, if you talk to me in exorcises, as I go around, they are, of course, afraid of God, but they are more humiliated when the lady free the person because they cannot accept because of their pride.

That this human being, they would say less in fear than us because Lucifer would say, I am the light, I am the brightest. And I said, why you cannot look? She is the brighter than me. Do you, you know, I've heard from, you know, Father Martin's also, and many actresses have shared that they love the litany of the saints and calling down the forces of heaven to help, you know, liberate people. Have you had experiences where you felt the communion of saints in the room that you felt the presence of particular saints or had relics in particular? You know, Father Martins has a unique ministry with relics. Have you found that to be particularly efficacious against demons? Yes, sacramentals, we call it sacramentals, very effective. When I was in the beginning of the exorcism, as I was learning it with my mentor, the person came, and he told us in the beginning that he had with him a relic. But it's very interesting because, so it was one of my first cases that I was learning,

and the lady was a doctor, a possess, and during the prayers, the main exorcist was just about to grab the relic and the demon said, don't touch that. And the main exorcist, and at that time, Father Bermonde said, why? Because I know who you're reaching out for. So that's one for me, is our lady of Guadalupe. So we were in the middle of the exorcism. This is probably the third time now. The first and two, there's so many manifestations and crisis. There were the arched, just like what you said, in the beginning, the foaming of the mouth, but the third time, completely quiet. And so I said, I do not know who to call in my own silence prayer.

And so I said quietly, Labirhan de Guadalupe, because the case is a Latin woman. La Berhand de Guadalupe, please come. And the person just went berserk. and about to grab my team. And I said, why? Because she is right there. You don't need to call her.

So our lady and many saints, when I have cases for children, the one that helped me a lot, is Saints Francisco and Jacinta. And they come really to help. Remember, they were given to see the vision of hell. So they know this. demons and some of their ways.

So when I have cases of little girl and boy, I always ask them the parents to have a devotion to St. Francisco and Jacinta, and they come and help many times over. Now, one area that's actually sparked a lot of debate on our show is the presence of generational curses. We've interviewed Father Rehiel, Father Martin's obviously in the case, and said they have dealt, Father Zeta, that they have dealt with many cases where the individual was not engaged in any particular sin, but that their ancestors had been perhaps Freemasons

or had participated in some occult dedications without their knowing and that they were bearing out the consequences for that. Have you seen that in the room? Have you seen people who were not in sin but were afflicted because their parents or grandparents, perhaps through Santeria or through Freemasonry, had opened up doorways to demons? Yes, those are definitely.

always, but when I deal with the position of the AIE with, if you call it, generation, we don't do the exercise with the generation, but I do a lot of deliverance with that, because those are openings. And of course, people can be possessed by cursors so that have some semblance with that. Yeah, so I pray with a lot of deliverance with the generations, if they want to call it. And the relationships, in fact, this Sunday, I have the healing of the services for the healing of suffering families and relationships, which touched on those things, yes, because they are not. It's the sins of the parents. And so what I do is because exorcism is mainly on the extraordinary action of Satan. So when I see that it is more on

healing and deliverance, I focus on that one. But of course, if it is affecting already, and there's an extraordinary actions, then it goes to exorcism. Yes. For those listening right now, we get this question quite a bit too, which is, Father, I've had a lot of weird things happen to me. It seems like a lot of tragedies, or I've had a lot of strife in my community. I'm having nightmares, etc. Obviously, we know that the church recognizes natural causes, and it's important to rule out that we live in a broken world. But how would you help someone discern whether or not their issues could be spiritual and potentially demonic in origin? That is a very good question. My suggestion for them is go see first your pastor because the pastor is, I always believe, the spiritual father. And so he has the authority to all his people there because of his spiritual fatherhood. And hopefully that the priest, the spiritual father, has some familiarity with either healing, deliverance or exorcism, so that the priest can help to begin to discern. If the person has a spiritual director, go and discuss that open. Never be afraid. If the priest is not familiar, then I will say, find the excellences in your diocese. But really, I always believe in the lowest, the spiritual father, because he has the spiritual authority to his people. So go there, spiritual direction, because sometimes it's very easy for us to be deceived. Lucifer and the demons, Lucifer is a deceiver. And so sometimes he would

like us to think, because I have people come that they would say they are possessed, but they are not really possessed. They have some semblance of the manifestations, but I tell them, you are not possessed. And so sometimes those who are sometimes really possessed, don't seek help because they're afraid to be labeled as crazy individuals. So my suggestion is, yes, go to a priest. If that priest is not familiar, go to another priest, but because that priest has some understanding of the spiritual warfare. Father Rehull has said on our program that he looks for patterns, and there's no foolproof way to know this. I often think of the story of Job. You know, Job was a righteous man, and then, you know, obviously his family members die, he gets sick, he suffers economic ruin.

And if we didn't know that Satan and God had this wager, we would just assume that he had a string of really bad luck. Yes. And so obviously it's hard to tell, but are there any telltale signs that would for you say, you know, this might be a little more spiritual. I might look into this a little more. Is it patterns? Is it things that are wildly out of proportion for the season of life you're in? What would you say? I would say if the person is a prayerful person and is starting not to pray anymore, and I will look on that. When the family is praying and the person always find a way to excuse oneself, sometimes the mother will ask the father, but can you? you help me? So I said, I do the exercise salt and oil, and she used it for cooking, and

there's a reaction, very bad reaction. Because she said, I'm not quite sure, Father Robert, I'm imagining it or not. So I said, well, use this, because this will be part of our diagnostic. And I remember when the mother cooked it with that oil and salt, the son became so angry with her. So we know that there's those things, beginning to isolate the person, one cell, those things. For young people, and not even young people, they started cursing more that normally they don't. They stopped going to charge. They started to lose weight unpromportionately.

I always look on what the ordinary for the person, but now it's being thrown out a proportion. Of course, people can say, well, maybe they just have psychological problem, or maybe, yes, that may be true, but we can look at it together. I work with our therapies because I am not, that's not my expertise, so I work with them. And when people really come to me, if it's a serious one, I already ask them a release so I can speak with their counselor they have. For the average person who says, hey, you know, I, how can I protect myself from evil? And obviously, scripture never tells us to be afraid and resist the devil and he'll flee from us. But also, we don't want to recklessly deal with a very powerful adversary and who is, you know,

much craftier than we are. So what's the proper attitude that believers should have and how can they ward off evil out of their lives? If they're Christians, of course, I will suggest to really breathe the scripture and have one scripture once a week. Like if they can have it in their mind and in their heart to live by the Word of God. I am speaking, they're Catholic. We have the Holy Mass. There are two sacraments really that the demons really hate that we found. Holy Mass and confession. because both of them are healing. So I ask them, practice the sacraments and pray all the time. And yes, always believing under the grace of God and the presence of God.

And trust in the Lord with all your heart. Trust in the Lord. I would suggest if you're Catholics, I use those holy water because they are there for our protection. Santa Tavisababula witnessed so much of the power of the holy water and many other sacraments. so many people who come to us who are non-Catholic, they are willing to use St. Benedict. Those are powerful sacramentals, St. Benedict medals, Rosary, all those things are very special to help.

By the end, it will be a life with God, life with God. Amen. Father, as we wrap up here, and I want to talk about your new film that you're participating in coming out, but you mentioned you were in healing and deliverance ministry. For those who are sick right now or a loved one is suffering, and is wrestling with not seeing healing. Could you encourage us?

Have you seen any radical healings or testimonies of healings? And just a fresh reminder that, obviously, we all get healed in heaven, but of its healing is hit or miss here on earth, and God's ways are higher than our ways. But for those who need a reminder of God's goodness, have you seen any crazy healings? Yes. One first is this couple, they've been married for seven years,

and they did everything. They wanted to have children. and they prayed, they did everything with science to have children and nothing. And so we met them one time, and they heard about us, and so they asked if they can pray. So I pray for them while I was praying, the husband got terrified. So he left the church, this went outside, but I was praying at the woman. I said, well, let's try again if we can get the husband. The husband came back, and I prayed.

And while I was praying, they said they felt this warm. in their belly, and we left it that way. After about a month, I had the phone call, and the lady said, I want to tell you something, but we never told anybody, and she told me, I am pregnant. Oh, that's beautiful. So it's the first one, and in fact, now they have three children, and they jokingly tell me, can you close now?

I said, no, once God's open, you have to deal with him. No more, yeah, Lord, just careful. I see why the husband runs away from you now. He's like, no, no mas, Padre. No more. Oh, my gosh. It's beautiful. Well, Father, as we wrap up here, you have a new film that you're participating in called Triumph Over Evil. Tell us about the film, the kind of heart behind it, and where people can check it out. Yes, this is the first very real documentary film approved by the Vatican, approved by the International Association of Exorcises, and the people they're being interviewed. there, a real exorcist. All of them are real exorcists. In fact, all of them are famous

exorcists in Italy. And so they have cases after cases. I could name the exorcists there because especially one of them, Frabenino from South, Italy and Sicily. He taught so many, it continues to teach. He has cases every week, so many. So they have so many experience coming from all these experience and they are willing to share it to help people to understand really the joy of being able to experience the love of God. And the two cases, and there are a few cases, but the two cases particularly in there, they are real cases. And many people will learn. In fact, the people who watch it, we did a screen already and many of the people in South Latin countries watch it already. They were surprised that the film, when they were asked, they said, we thought,

it would be scary and all, but when they left, they left affirmed. They left with this real understanding of the ministry, that this is not something made by anybody, and they have this felt experience that God is there to care. So no fake exorcists there, they're all real exorcists and going away from sensationalism. So go and watch this film because it's a very important film to understand this Ministry of Exorcism. We'll link to it in the show notes, and I believe it's got a limited theatrical release in the United States, but hopefully it will be available for streaming online, and people can check it out.

You can go to Faton Entertainment.com to reserve the ticket. It will be this Thursday, October 30th, one day only, to at least about 700 to 800-800-movie theaters, one-day show only. Amazing. And then hopefully it'll be on streaming so people can watch it later on Amazon or wherever. So, awesome. Well, Father, thank you so much. I know we've got a busy day. The demons don't sleep. So we've got to get you back out in the field, praying, et cetera. Any final words for the listeners of the Exorcist Files? Yes. With the Exorcist files, you will learn, not fake one, but real people, real experience. So continue to support this ministry and continue to pray for all priests. your prayers. Thank you so much. God bless you. And may the Lord always be with you. Amen.

Well, God bless you all. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you, Father Cruz. And have a wonderful, demon-free, holy, righteous, peace, patience, joy, kindness-filled day. Thank you so much. God bless you.