The Exorcist Files - Psychedelics and The Spiritual Realm

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Christa Black, a singer, author and podcaster joins the podcast to share her testimony of spiritual encounters after attempting to find God through psychedelics. Thank you to our sponsors for helping make this episode possible.Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to:  https://www.wildalaskan.com/EXFILES.Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go toRocketmoney.com/exfilesJoin The Vault-get access to special bonus episodes and once a month Ask Me AnythingSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

So all these spiders go everywhere. They're everywhere. I mean, we're talking about, you know, in the Harry Potter of Shilob and the Lord of the Rings, these kind of big, ugly, awful, terrifying spiders. And I have been coached in the New Age and with a shaman that the way that you overcome darkness is you just become okay with it. I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, I got to find something good. My heart's beating. And I didn't want to purge. You know, you throw up on ayahuasca. and you eliminate the other end. And I was like, I don't want to purge. I just want to be okay with this.

So I'm like, okay, what can I find to be grateful for? I'm like, thank you for mosquitoes. Do you eat mosquitoes? I am so grateful. And I would let the gratitude for mosquito eating, you know, moving to my body. And just thank you for cleaning the flies out of my house. And when I said in my mind, in my heart, you have my permission. to walk all over me. They all poof, disappeared, and I heard do-l-l-l-l-loop, level one complete.

So then I go on to step two, and then I go on to step three, and then my dead daughter shows up, and then my dead grandfather shows up, and then I look up at the shaman who's singing, and again, it's a formula. So you've drank something, and then you have to have specific beats of frequency and entrainment in order to activate the medicine inside of you. all these ancient songs. Hello, Exorcist Files fans. What's that? You want a dad joke?

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Make sure you take advantage of your vault membership. Go into the special Q&As and submit your questions or ask me anythings. Thank you so much for your support. It means the world and it helps us keep cranking out Exorcist Files content all year long. Now, today on the show, we are going to be discussing something that many people have written in and asked about. And that is the use of psychedelics, such as peyote or ayahuasca to pursue spiritual experiences. Now, I do want to say very clearly there is a huge difference between things. therapeutic use of these compounds, which there is research being conducted on for potential benefits,

and using psychedelics to pursue a religious experience. The latter is what we will be diving into today as we welcome Krista Black, a speaker, worship leader, and podcaster who joins the show to share her, well, wild testimony of how her experimentation with these substances led to some very strange manifestations. Again, we bring you the story and you decide. Enjoy the show. All right, well, let's kick those tires and start those fires. Welcome back to The Exorcist Files, the show where we say no mo. To demons, joining me today is a beautiful voice, a beautiful soul, someone who's going to help us reach our spiritual goal. Krista Joy Black has seen it all.

And when I say it all, I'm talking spiders and demons. Oh my. We're here to talk about ayahuasca, hallucidogenic mushrooms, LSD, peyote, and, maybe just really good coffee, she's here to guide us in a conversation about whether we should and probably say no to all these things. Am I right, Krista? Yes, just say no. There you go. Wrapped up the show right there. We wrapped it up. Okay. Krista, would you just introduce yourself to the fans briefly? Obviously, we'll get into your story and all the wild twists and turns and celebrating God's faithfulness to get you back

on track. But just give the fans a little bit of a taste because we're going to go on a virtual journey of your experience with some of these compounds. So thankfully no one will have to do them to learn firsthand. Yeah, take my word for it. Don't let it ruin your life like it did mine. Well, I'm a Texan, of course. We sang a lot of country songs in the beginning. That's true.

I'm a preacher's kid, so I did have those few rebellious years, but I've loved Jesus my whole life, which was really surprising when I got really deceived because I thought there was no way that I could be deceived. and I'm a mom of three beautiful kids and divorced a couple years ago after the enemy. He loves going after marriages. He loves weasling his way in and fought for my marriage for many years, went through a really terrible divorce, and on the other side of the Joel 2, the Job double redemption, all the promises of God where even when you,

make the mistakes and you move into things that you shouldn't have, which we'll get into the new age and psychedelics, God really is faithful to restore. So I'm enjoying that season right now. Slowly started tucking my head back out because I was in the music industry for 13 years. I toured with Michael W. Smith and Jordan Sparks and the Jonas Brothers. And then I wrote books and was a Christian author and speaker. And when you royally screw up, you have to kind of go through this season of, am I qualified anymore to where the Holy Spirit

kindly reminded me that he loves choosing the Davids who screw up and the Moseses who are too afraid to speak. And he loves choosing these people, the Pauls who, like, murdered a bunch of Christians to where we can boast in our weakness because when Christ comes back in and restore, we can boast in what he has done and who he is. That that's the season I'm in right now.

Amen. And absolutely, God can use where sin abounds grace all the more. All the more. Amen to that. Well, let's dive in because, obviously, it's a huge part of your story. We have received hundreds of questions about using or experiencing things with ayahuasca, hallucinogenic mushrooms. And many of them are questions about clinical benefits. And so we're obviously, we're not doctors.

We're not going to get into that. I'm sure there's some trials and evidence around whether or not these things could, you know, treat certain mental conditions or anything for health. That is not actually what we're really diving into today because with your experience, you are going to be talking about intentional use of these compound, these plant compounds, to try and have spiritual experiences. So right out the gate for anyone who says, I don't know, this, I mean, these are used by tribes for thousands of years.

It's just a plant, you know, it's really like what's the harm in it? What would you say to that person as far as the reality of what these things can do? Well, first of all, I would say that most people who go do ayahuasca in a jungle in Peru and, you know, face the mosquitoes and the elements and all the things you really are trying to heal. Most people, in my personal life, I felt like I had exhausted certain things in the Christian institution to get to certain parts of my pain. And so because I had, I mean, I was a poster child for inner healing. I was a poster child for deliverance.

I'd done so many things that when my marriage at the time, my ex-husband, we'd gotten into a lot of new age things. And this was pitched as another healing opportunity. It does work in some respects where in John 10, where you hop the fence, you're a thief and a robber, you are moving into what scripture, I believe, calls the second heaven realm, which is in warlocks and New Ages will call it the astral realm. You know, Paul talks about, I was taken up into the third heaven. That's the throne room. That's where father is. But there's this whole realm of angels and demons in the unseen realm. If you've ever seen stranger things,

which I can only work. It terrified me. But the upside down realm was kind of what looked like, especially on psychedelics, it was like we're here, but it's a different version of it, and there's all kinds of entities and things there. So when I was opening myself up with psychedelics, even in what was, quote, unquote, a spiritual space, you're not opening yourself up to the third heaven where we are, according to Ephesians 2, our spirits, when we come into Christ, it says, we're seated in heavenly places in Christ. Like, what a gift that we have actually. That we have access through the Holy Spirit to the throne room. But when you're doing psychedelics, you're opening your soul realm up into that second heaven, or as the New Age calls it, the astral plane. And there are a lot

of angels disguised as light in there. So when I, and I didn't realize that because it's very sensational. You might get a healing, as we'll get into. But it can be very, very dangerous. And people don't understand that because something sensational happens. And I think, you know, we talked about, you said, I went to Turkey and, you know, here's people under the rubble and they, there's been this devastation and we're so comfortable here. We don't understand the need for Jesus because we have comfort so many times. We want to put it in the microwave. We want to take a pill. We want to skip the commercial. And if our healing isn't happening in the time that we want, it's like, well, let's just go down to Peru. And let's see if we can speed track it as opposed to let me press, let me wait on the Lord.

Let me apply the promises of God to my life. Let me follow his scripture. I didn't do that. You know, I didn't pray continually. I didn't renew my mind. Paul says, take every thought captive and make it obedient to Christ. Was I doing that? No, absolutely not. Was I putting my armor on every day? Did I even believe I lived in a war? No. So a lot of Christians have started moving into what are faster things, but at what cost. That's what I would say, at what cost? Well, it's interesting because you started off as a Christian and your P.K. And you got to work with some of the great Christian artists of our time.

But something about the new age, it just creeps into your life. And so could you maybe start us off with how this came into your life and maybe one of your experiences because you obviously had some profound spiritual experiences in there where you got to interface with some entities? So how did this enter into your life as a Christian? So I was a Christian author speaker. I had two books. I was an itinerant ministry.

I was on speaking platforms all over the world. And the enemy always gets in through our wounds. He will always take something that we feel stuck in and maybe we've given up hope with. And then he'll offer and present a solution. So my ex-husband and I, we talked about this publicly. We had a podcast. So I'm not uncovering him or unveiling anything that he hasn't already said. But I was the breadwinner.

I was the one that made all the money. But I also, it wasn't like he was at home raising the kids and doing the laundry and doing the cooking. I was doing all of it. So I was exhausted. So when this man came along and pitched to us, hey, I have the solution for your problem. Krista, you're in your masculine. You need to get more into your feminine. You need to stand up. I will help coach him and make him into this man. I said yes. And yet a lot of the texture of what he was bringing at the time. He was a former pastor, so he spoke Christianese, but he also brought in a lot of

new age concepts like manifestation, you know, like the concept of, you know, you can, and this has worked its way into the Protestant church of like name it, claim. it, prosperity gospel. Let's just like declare, let's completely throw out the doctrine of suffering that Jesus said in this life, you will have trials. And even those New Age concept had kind of worked their way into the Christian church. So we hired this guy. We started opening up, it's a slippery slope because when you start moving away from the completion of the doctrine of scripture and you start letting just little foxes in your field of well maybe let's just try this maybe let's start manifesting maybe let's stop giving and see if what we grew up learning which is like the

locust will come eat everything in our barns if we don't tie that you know a lot of times we tied out of fear for many many years or just giving we we started adopting little bitty things and before you know it all of a sudden you're looking at tarot cards and you're looking at somebody who calls themself prophetic as a psychic and they come up and they're like you're supposed to do this with us and again that new age world there is power inside of it because of the entities that are powering it so we didn't just i didn't go from being a christian author speaker to in a jungle in costa rica it was a very slow burn of compromises number one of me wanting to be in the right submissive role. And I say that very intentionally. I read Ephesians

five this morning. And it's not, it's not lesser than. It's, I mean, the man is called in marriage to love the wife like Christ loves the church to die for her. Oh my gosh. Of course you would want to submit to that. It's not subservient. It's helper. It's order. It's the tent and the roof of the covering over the man, over the woman, and the children are protected. So I longed for that. It was a godly desire in me. It's just we started letting in other things and going about it the wrong way. So when you start letting New Age concepts in, which we had, you know, I, the first thing that happened with this coach, which was not done in a ceremonial setting. So you talked about mushrooms. There are a lot of people right now doing mushrooms that are

outside of a ceremonial setting or even a Johns Hopkins doctor setting. They're just doing it because they want to have an experience to open up their mind. This is like the 70s, but it's still happening today. Amen. Father Martin's here. I want to do a quick plug for one of the most powerful tools I've seen for breaking free and growing closer to Christ. Exodus 90. The Exodus 90 challenge begins this year on January 20th. But this isn't just a 90-day program. Exodus 90 is a spirituality for modern men that is built on three ancient pillars, prayer, self-sacrifice, and fraternity. We all long for something more. We long to be the men God created us to be, sons of a loving father. It's time to turn away from our idols. It's time to break free from the Pharaoh,

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And of course, everything's going to be super spiritual on these journeys. Entities will come to you. The enemy disguises himself as an angel of light. So if you are Christian, you will hear Jesus. You will hear like a false doctrine coming in and experiencing these things. And his psyche split. And within a month of doing that first journey, he came back and said, I don't love you anymore. I don't want to be married to you.

My heart is closed. And he left me with three kids under five. for nine months, which was absolutely terrifying. And so when I say be so cautious with these psychedelics, you are literally opening yourself up to your shadow or the darkness or maybe the demonic that's attached to your wounds. And they have now your legal authority to begin influencing your life and saying, I cannot tell you how many people in the medicine have been told by an entity

that they're to leave their marriage. I can't, it's a common theme. I have a friend that happened to. Yes. I have a friend who one of their dear friends, same thing with the husband, that he had an experience like that. And I think it's important also, again, we really want to stress. We're talking about people who are,

or it seems like these are instances where people are seeking a spiritual experience, and we really want to separate the difference between that and a legitimate medical need, a trial at John Hopkins, because plants are a gift from God and plants have compounds. and maybe there are responsible ways to utilize those, but it seems like you're speaking about situations where people are basically trying to circumvent the normal path of God speaking to them

and trying to kind of force God's hand. And it sounds like divination, essentially, right? It's 100% divination. And let's just address microdosing, because I get asked that question a lot. I had microdose. You feel nothing. You really don't feel anything.

And microdosing what could be if you take too much of it as a psychedelic, I'm still, when people ask me that question, would I do it right now? No. Because when you've touched the stove and you've been burned, it's like I'm staying away from the whole thing, the whole kitten caboodle right now. But at the same time, I think it's very interesting that Christians are okay going to pharma Kia, which if you get into the inner workings of the beginnings of even how our medical institutions were taken over by, you know, the Rothschild family and the Rockefellers were

influencing it and there was so much agenda and we're okay taking an ambient to sleep or we're okay taking a Xanax to calm down. But, oh, this mushroom that God created can't be used in any sort of medicinal form, if it's not in a psychedelic capacity, I think we do have to go to the Holy Spirit with something like that, because it's a little bit of a double standard if you're just throwing everything out. And I don't have any, I don't have PTSD right now. So I don't have to be, you know, I always tell people, go to the Holy Spirit with this and ask him yourself. Because I think a lot of times as Christians, as believers, as Catholics, people want like a blanket statement. And sometimes things need to be taken case by case, right? What would be?

be good for one person to have a sip of wine at a wedding. If you have alcoholism in your family and you've struggled with that, that's a no for them. So again, it needs to be case by case. Yeah, for sure. So you mentioned in these experiences that so your husband had an experience and an entity said, you know, he felt he was told to like leave marriage and many people have said that. And so what is happening when you take these compounds and is it also the intent of the heart? Is it saying, hey, are these permissions being granted, do you think?

and that's what's opening the door. And then what is happening when you engage with these substances? After that, and he left for nine months, when he came back, I was so determined to keep my marriage together because no one in my family line had been divorced. I had three kids.

I didn't want them to grow up in a broken home. I loved my husband. And so I fought so hard to keep our marriage together to where it almost had been. become an idol. You know, keeping, God, you don't want divorce, you don't like divorce. That had, and there had been infidelity when he left, but I had put my marriage as an idol to where I wanted to make it work no matter what. And we had also moved into the New Age movement, which had become so much about self-healing. Everything is about healing yourself. Everything is about healing your lineage.

Everything is about getting the knowledge and the technology. And there's all these mystery schools that are going to give you downloads, which is very, I think, is interesting. It's kind of like the serpent and the garden saying, don't you want the knowledge of good and evil? Don't you want the knowledge to never need Yeshua, to never need Yahweh? 2020 happened. COVID happened and everything shut down. And my ex-husband came home and he said, I heard this word today and I almost jumped out of my skin. this guy at the table next to me said the word Wachuma. And I literally stopped the conversation I was in.

And I went over to him and I said, what did you just say? I need to know what you're talking about. So I always say, you know, I grew up as this preacher's kid hearing Jeremiah 29, 11, like, for I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord plans to prosper you. Psalm 139. All of our days were written. There are destinies.

You know, they call them scrolls in scripture because they didn't have books. But there's these books that God has over our destinies that have been so good. And the enemy has war rooms. He studies us from birth. The demonic realm, they study us. They're just scribes and scrolls, taking notes of what they can accuse against us and the courts of heaven, just like in Job, going, okay, how can we thwart them from accomplishing what God has destined them to do? So I always thought when synchronicities would happen. even when I'd stepped away and I'd started getting into New Age stuff, I thought that if synchronicity's

happened, it had to be God, okay? But again, synchronicities can happen when the demonic realm is trying to get you off course and lead you to something. So he comes home, he says, I'm supposed to do this. We're looking it up on the computer and we're like, well, that's in Peru. You know, the world just shut down. You can't go down there. He's like, I've got to get down there and do Wachuma. I don't know what it is. And I get a text either the next day or the next. It was within two days. And the text said, hey, Krista, my sister's been working with a shaman who got stuck in Nashville because of COVID. And he's doing an ayahuasca and a Wachuma ceremony on Friday out at our land. Do you know anybody who would want to go? So you see, because we had been moving

out of the jurisdiction of Jesus. I mean, we still said that we love Jesus, but it was Christ consciousness. There was more of a universal Christ, more all roads led to Christ. You start looking at things like that and going, well, it has to be God. So he goes out there to do this journey and he was my litmus test. And this is where a lot of people get deceived because, you know, right now there are huge, huge podcasters who are advocating for psychedelic use. saying, oh my gosh, we got such a breakthrough. There are major, major influencers and athletes right now who are promoting this as a solution for their problems, and especially for men. I mean, women are, sign us up for self-healing and like the retreat and whatever, but a lot

of times men have a harder time moving towards that inner healing or let me be vulnerable. So when you have these really manly men, they're activating this proponent, they're championing this thing, you've got men who are going in droves to go do this stuff. And it works to a certain extent. So when my ex-husband went out and did this and he came back, I remember him walking in the door, and it truly was like layers of hardness had melted over him because you do experience the supernatural. You do, but what level of it? You're experiencing the second heaven. You're experiencing the demonic that is coming to you as angels of light. You're experiencing power inside of that second heaven realm that will give you a false healing, but now you owe them something because everything

is transactional. You know, the trading floor of Jesus, I always say, what a gift. You offload your sin, your anger, your hatred, your sexual abuse from childhood. You offload it to him. He gives you peace or he gives you joy or he gives you forgiveness. And, then the bank statement is paid, that's not what happens when you go do drugs. And I call them drugs. That's not what happens when you do psychedelics. You go in and you ask for an experience that's sensational where you're going to see your dead child, which I did, you're going to see your dead grandfather. You're going to see an entity that's coming to you. You might revisit some traumatic events so that you can work through it and alchemize it, is there a big word, and purge. But,

Now you owe them something. It is a bank. This is how the Holy Spirit showed me. It is a bank. It's transactional in that second heaven realm, which in the third heaven, it's endless. The Holy Spirit is endless. There's endless healing. And that realm, if they give you what you have wanted to manifest, now they can call the loan

on your kid at some point. Now they can call the loan on your bank account at some point. It is a transaction. It's not unlimited like the blood of Jesus, like the blood of Jesus, like the first. forgiveness of Jesus. So when he came in and he was overwhelmed with love for me and our children and life and he was the litmus test. And I was like, okay, I'll go do it. And that's what got me to do it for the first time. Wow. So the enemy used your husband and to get in there. Now, this is before or after his experience where he came back. This is before? This is after.

Oh, this is after. Okay. So you're longing to be with him so much. So that the enemy he's praying upon the reconcilatory desire. Yes. And my deepest sacred wound, I mean, I'm very open with it at age two. I had sexual abuse that happened. It was Freemasonic, which is really dark. And then I was locked in a closet. And I remember being a little two-year-old, just sitting in that closet, and there was this vent with a little bit of light going through it. And so what was my sacred wound? abandonment. So I was going to do everything I could to make sure that I wasn't abandoned, even at the expense of doing what I needed to do or to obey the Lord or to listen to what he had said all throughout scripture about divination and hopping the fence. And I was going to,

you know, the first time that we went out to do ayahuasca. And ayahuasca, there's three different types that are the most prominent. There's in Peru. There's the Quechuan tribe. And this is how some people get off because they're like, wait a second, how could all of these tribes who did not speak to one another into it the same sort of mixture? Now, they do it all differently. In Brazil, it's called Santa Dime, and they actually sing to Jesus Christo all night long. It's absolutely a perversion of the gospel. You wear white.

The men sit on one side. The women sit on another. You have Eucharist that's the ayahuasca. It's prepared differently. they didn't speak to the Peruvian Ketchuan tribe who prepares it a different way. And their ceremony is a little bit different. It starts at sundown. It ends about three, four p four a.m. And then up in Columbia, you have the Yahay, and that's what I mostly did. And this one is like the mothership. It's very much in the body. And again, there's no way that these people could have intuited that the root and the plant could be mixed in this way and prepared. I mean, they stay up. all night long, they pray over it, they do these things for days to prepare this medicine. And all of these tribes, intuited that this same root and the same plant were to be prepared in a specific way with a ceremony to heal themselves. And they'll even talk about the spirit of ayahuasca coming and teaching

them. Well, if you read the book of Enoch and you read about the watchers and these fallen angels, I mean, some of them had technology that they gave of root cutting to their children. And so I don't blame these people for, you know, some of these beautiful people that I did a Wachuma ceremony with, which is different. It's a cactus that you prepare. They talked about the star people that came down to them that sounded very seraphim in nature that were like plume serpent. You have Amaru and you have quetziquadal and would teach them how to prepare these medicines. So again, this is kind of what got me back to Jesus when I started researching the origin. points of these things going, wow, is this watcher fallen angel technology that was given and

downloaded to these tribes? And I'm playing for the wrong team right now. So you've got these different ayahuasca types of ayahuasca, and they do the ceremony similarly, but different. So the first one that we did was more of the Quechuan tribe. This is what most people do when they're in Western culture and they say, we're going to go do ayahuasca. When this shaman, who, he was dark. When he was walking down the road towards my husband and I for the first time, I looked at him, everything in my body, just froze. It was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like if I could go back and just shake myself and wake myself up, because this man was not sanctioned to poor medicine by even the Quechuan tribe. And let me just say, it's the Wild West out there. If anybody

comes in your town and says I'm a shaman, that's the thing. There's no credentials. It's not like, we have the board of certification of, it's the Wild West. And I mean, I was telling the blurry creatures guys, like, I know of two German psychologists in Nashville and you can go to their house and get a menu. And all in the same room, somebody will be on MDMA, somebody will be on mushrooms, one person will be on Wachuma, one person will be on peyote. it's a free-for-all. It's absolutely, and this is not how even the indigenous tribes intended for these. Oh, it's consumer.

So basically you met this shaman. Is this in Nashville or is this in- In Nashville. Okay, so you had experienced this basically a kind of almost counterfeit, you know, divine appointment where they said, okay, come on and you're going to do this. And the only reason you're going to do this is because your husband seemed to have fruit. Yeah. And you said, okay, and that's important.

There's a deception there. So you meet this shaman and you're the wee-be-jeeves, but you go forward with it. What happens next? One of the things that he had told us to bring is something for an altar piece. Bring something that you are wrestling with or you want to give up to the divine. Everything's about source or spirit or the universe or the plant gods or Pachamama, which is earth worship. And so I brought my violin. And my violin and I had had a very struggling relationship.

I mean, I started playing at three and a half, and I was just really good. And so when I would get hired to play for Michael W. Smith or play for the Jonas Brothers, it was not because of what I wanted to do, which was to sing and play guitar. It was the violin was why I would get hired. And then they would go, oh, you play guitar and sing too. Let's do that as well. So it wasn't like I loved playing and I couldn't wait to play. I was just good at it. And so I wanted to bring that and put it on the altar. this particular shaman, he has this really long opening ceremony. And it is a very structured way of doing this. These are ancient traditions. You don't move out of the confounds of the prayer that opens the ceremony. It's very long. They pray over the medicine. They set up a perimeter with their copal. They, you know, they incense it in a specific way. It's very long. And he was speaking in Spanish for a long time. And I did not catch. the first six ceremonies that he was saying, you know, bienvenos, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Lucifer. And he was inviting Lucifer into the ceremony,

which the medicine had downloaded to him, that Lucifer and Jesus were brothers. And he was also a Taoist, so the yen and the yang, everything has to be equal, equanimitous. You know, you just need to be okay with the darkness. that's how you overcome it. And this is a big proponent of the New Age and also psychedelics. Run from this. If you believe in Jesus, you do not need to make friends with your demons. You are actually meant to have authority over them, to rebuke them, to bind them, to cast them out. Don't make friends with them.

Because when you do, they have your legal authority to be clingons, as I like to call them, ride-alongs. And so this is what we are being coached to do in medicine. If you go do a psychedelic journey or even a mushroom ceremony, even with someone who might be a clinical psychologist, you have to look at it in the biblical context to go, what are you asking me to do with my trauma? Are you asking me to, and my mom's an inner healing minister. She's also a therapist. She's like, the only thing that can get to the heart of your trauma is Jesus. So that's my thing.

It's like Jesus said, in Isaiah 61, I have come to bind up the broken heart. I've come to proclaim freedom for the prisoners. we're going to all these other things that might give a temporary, it's like, I call it like going to get a Big Mac. You're going to not be hungry, but it is not the meal that's going to nourish you. In fact, it might poison you. So he's inviting Lucifer into the ceremony. The first thing I see are spiders everywhere. And now I used to hate spiders. This is right after you take the medicine? It takes about 45 minutes to an hour to kick in. Okay, so you're in there just sitting, are you in a room or weren't you in a tent?

You're a room, you're lying down. Yeah, there can be, if you do it in an indigenous spot, it's in a shallow or a Maloka, and so it's usually open air, but you're usually lying down. And Santa Diaman, the Brazilian tradition you're sitting up. But in the Peruvian and the Colombian traditions, you're usually lying down. Okay, so 40 minutes in spiders appear. So, yeah, you start seeing, you start hallucinating. You start seeing the fabric of, you know, the Fibonacci spirals. You'll see the flower of life.

They have specific, you know, if you go into a yoga studio, it's all the same structure because that's a lot of times what you see on these psychedelics. So all these spiders go everywhere. They're everywhere. I mean, we're talking about, you know, in the Harry Potter of Shilob and the Lord of the Rings, these kind of big, ugly, awful, terrifying spiders. And I have been coached. in the new age and with a shaman that the way that you overcome darkness is you just become okay with it. I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, I got to find something good. My heart's beating and I didn't want to purge. You know, you throw up on ayahuasca and you eliminate the other end and I'm like, I don't want to purge. I just want to be okay with this. So I'm like, okay, what can I

find to be grateful for? I'm like, thank you for mosquitoes. You eat mosquitoes? I am so grateful and I would let the gratitude for mosquito eating, you know, moving to my body and just thank you for cleaning the flies out of my house. And when I said in my mind and my heart, you have my permission to walk all over me. They all poof, disappeared and I heard doolulu, level one complete. So then I go on to step two and then I go on to step three. And then my dead daughter shows up and then my dead grandfather shows up and then I look up at the shaman who's singing and again it's a formula so you've drank something and then you have to have specific beats of frequency and entrainment in order to activate the medicine inside of you it's all these ancient songs and I look behind him

and I saw something I saw this entity and he was not good it was this leathery old nasty It looked just like kind of like golamy hair, stringy hair. And I did ask him the next day about whatever it was that I saw him because this thing was powering him. And he said, oh, no, it's just there are entities in the medicine. There's good and bad. We just have to be okay with them. But what I realize now is this demonic force because, again, he was administering healings and moving energy, right? moving trauma out of the body with some kind of authority.

We have left out so much as Christians because we think it's all just Chinese medicine. But really, like our lungs process grief biologically, our liver process is anger, our kidneys process fear. So when you would see maybe the anger of your mother abusing you as a child and the shaman would come in and he would blow with his smoke or his chondur, that would leave. and the person would purge, but it wasn't the authority of Jesus to fully cast it out and heal. That thing would then just go somewhere else. So it was almost just like this kind of game of Tetris. That's kind of how the second heaven entities play with energy, because they can't create power. They have a limited source of power, and how do they get their power?

They get it from us. They get it through our agreement. They're able to move things. I have this experience. I'd pick up my violin and, you know, synesthesia, some people live with this, which would be really cool. But I got synesthesia where I could see the color of vibration of sound. So the shaman was shaking as shakers and I could literally see color and light coming out in waveform. So I pick up my violin. He opens the ceremony. He was like, does anybody want to, you know, play something and anyone have a song?

and I hear a voice say, play God Loves Ugly, which is a song that I'd written that Jordan Sparks, she's an American Iowa winner, she cut it for her first record, play God Love's Ugly, shoot it towards that lady's liver, and when I did, I saw the vibrational frequency of sound go into the liver and the lady purges, and what does she do the next day? She's like, oh my gosh, I had so much anger towards my mother, and I felt love come in, and I had this massive healing. So what would happen to you if you would experience that? It's like, wow, it works, right? It works.

But at what cost? So your first experience, you gave spiders permission, which is a testament to your courage. I don't know anyone who would say, that's a bold move, the enemy coming at you in the form of spider. Because I'd be like, hell no. Spiders, no way. And look at you finding gratitude for them eating mosquitoes.

Talk about finding no excuse not to be grateful. I mean, that's really digging. to the bottom of the barrel. So you leave this, you leave this experience and you say, okay, it worked. Sounds like Satan's pretty crafty and goes, yeah, I'm not going to show my hand first. So you walk out of there with a genuine, you've seen fruit and your husband, who now is like reconciled with you. You've seen other people get healed, et cetera. So you end this experience. And then what happens? So we start facilitating the stuff. And I just felt so guilty as a mom in East Nashville. My husband was sneaking around on signal.

it's illegal. It's schedule one, like we can go to jail. So I told my ex-husband, I was like, we can't do this here. People were wanting to buy us properties so that we could start retreat centers. And so I asked the universe, now again, when you are opening even your dream life up to something other than Jesus, you are giving them legal authority to influence you. So I asked the universe, spirit, God, where do we need to go if this is what we're supposed to do? And I have a dream three nights in a row. And there was a dream and it was this infinity pool and palm trees and the ocean. And I told my ex-husband, I said, I feel like we're going to move to someplace tropical. Well, my friend was in Costa Rica. I looked at her stories. I'm like, that looks like the place in my

dream. So I Google Montessori schools. I find this school. I enroll my kids or I, you you know, whatever it is, you register your kids to see if they can get in. They get in. I tell my ex-husband, I think we're moving to Costa Rica. And he goes, I don't know. I don't know about that. I'm like, okay, well, let's just wait and see what God does. The next day, we get a call. Hey, there is a shaman from Nasara, Costa Rica, the very city that I enrolled my kids. There's a shaman coming to town, does anybody want to do a ceremony? So what do we do again? Well, this must be God. Not the second heaven entities that are trying to steal and kill and destroy us. This must be God, but we'd removed the covering of the Holy Spirit and Jesus, and we opened ourselves up to these

second heaven entities. So we meet this lady. I said, I think I'm moving to your town. No way. There's no rentals there. It's a big like Airbnb market. Well, here's my number anyway. within 24 hours, we had a six-month rental in the Saracostarica. And we sold everything. Now, one of the entities on the medicine would do downloads, the shaman would do downloads with my ex-husband. And they would just left-eye to left-eye and train, just shaking and inviting these beings into them. Why? Because you're downloading power. You're really downloading demons. You're downloading power. You're downloading codes of healing. It's all, masquerading as angels of light. And one of the mantras that my ex-husband got was we have to go to

zero. Well, that is a very Buddhist concept. And so when I adopted that, okay, we'll go to zero. We moved to Costa Rica. We sold our house in East Nashville because everybody was moving in from L.A. and New York. And, you know, we sold our house for like double. And I was excited because I'm like, oh, I finally get a break. I don't have to work. which what that was my dream and he was like i'm going to become a shaman down there and this path will start to provide well because we given the enemy legal authority everything's about legality in the spirit realm we give the enemy legal authority to go to zero within six months of moving to Costa Rica we went to from i don't want to say but it was hundreds of thousands of

dollars off the sale of our house to $1,200 within six months. And it was when he went into his first ayahuasca journey down there. He came out and it was all in crypto and it was just gone. The demons or entities gave crypto picks. They gave the wrong crypto picks. And then apparently... Demonic meme coins. No, demonic meme.

It was some coin where the guy took off with the money and even like the FBI eyes after him. I don't know. It was a lovely thing. All our crypto customers out there are going to be a little sobered up at this anecdote. But please continue. Don't do what the entities tell you to do on psychedelics. Don't buy those guys. I know. So basically we should start a fund where we short demonic Bitcoin futures. Okay. Bet against the demonic markets. Got it. Okay. All right. So you guys are experiencing humility and being brought down to zero, which interestingly, I bet, sets you up for more dependence on them. More dependence.

Absolutely. So then what happens? So, well, he doesn't tell me for about six months. And so credit cards just keep getting swipes and they're all in my name because I'm the one who's made the money. And after about six months, there was no more maneuvering. And so he let me know. And I, at this point, it was a mishmatch.

of Jesus and Buddhism and plant medicine and all the things, right? New Age movement just kind of cherry picks the best of all the religions. So I served him communion. He told me, I took a deep breath, and you have to understand when you're in the medicine world or you're in the new age, you've created everything. And so everything is there for your healing. So if the money left, then this is my highest self wanting to evolve into something else. I need to learn to let go. I mean, there's no enemy that can steal from you. This is me just needing to let go of earthly things even more.

So in my highest self, I serve Him communion. I was like, I forgive you. You need to forgive yourself. Jesus forgives you. And I did what I always did, and I got to work. Rationalize anything, yep. Just rationalize everything is for me. I created all of this.

It's all here to help me heal. It's the most self-obsessed. Everything's about your own heal. Your own evolution. Nobody in the medicine and nobody in the New Age world is manifesting the end of global hunger or the end of sex trafficking. It is all about you and your self-healing. It's just constant healing. Interesting. Okay. All right. So you're getting frugal here. Getting frugal. I find out on my birthday, November 26, I had the thought that night. My life is perfect. It's so Instagramable. I just was on the beach with my friends. doing a photo shoot with like a static dance, you know, everything, everything in spirituality in that world is just about your own self-pleasure and your own healing. And I will say, let me sidebar,

the indigenous tribes don't live this way. This is kind of the appropriation, misappropriation of the stealing inside of the psychedelic L.A. Burning Man, you know, Americanizing. Let's come in and let's just do these psychedelics. It's really what I've said. seen a bunch of addicts who were addicted probably they would have been addicted to some sort of drug, street drug or alcohol. And so now it's spiritual. And we can just drink as much medicine as we want and we never have to get rid of our addiction because we're super enlightened. So I have the thought my life is perfect and I go to sweat my credit card and it doesn't go through. And I had been told every month the reason why it wouldn't go through is because we were in Costa Rica.

and just let me know. And so I have to call the credit card company. And so I call the credit card company and find out everything's maxed out. And it was kind of the beginning of the end. You know, when you have done everything, and that's the thing about these movements is they teach you. When you believe, like, I am responsible for healing myself. Like, there's no Jesus to do it. There's no, I've got to drink more medicine. I have to meditate more. I have to do more yoga. I have to do another breathwork retreat. I have to, It's constant and you've done it all and nothing keeps working out. See, this, now that I know, this is God using the enemy because he kept draining us dry and that's exactly where the father got the prodigal son, right? He squandered his inheritance to get him to zero. So was it the enemy? Yeah. But God was using that to actually ultimately get me back because where else do you have to go just like the prodigal son. It's like, I got to go back to the father, right? I got to beg my way back in. I'm so frustrated because nothing I have done has worked and I was devoted. And I look out at the ocean one day and I had seen a lot of miracles in my Christian life. Like it wasn't like I was a sort of Christian. I was, I knew the presence of Jesus. I had experienced miracles. I had seen physical healing.

I had seen them in my own life. And I was at Rock Bottom as the prodigal son, and I said, okay, true Lord Jesus, what do I need to know? And I heard two words. I heard Nephilim and I heard Anunaki. And the reason why I think the Holy Spirit gave me those two words is because the Nephilim was the Genesis 6 biblical piece. The Ananaki was the piece of all of this ancient alien, ancient astronaut technology. the Graham Hancock stuff. I don't know if you're into all that stuff where they're like, no, it's angels or it's aliens that gave us all this technology. It's the same data, but one of them

says they're fallen angels and one of them says they're aliens from the stars. So as I'm studying this, I'm realizing, oh, wow, I am 100% in fallen angel technology. I call my mom, and let me just tell you, if you have a child or a friend or someone that you love who's fallen away from Jesus, fast and pray for them. Because I'm telling you, at the end of the day on this earth, we can't take podcasts, we can't, we can't take things, we can't take accomplishments, we can take souls. It's the only thing that matters. My parents, every Tuesday, they fasted and prayed with people from all over the world.

they fasted and prayed. Turn around Tuesday. It was this book by Jonathan Hamill. And they called me back because they had promises. Like the hearts of the sons will turn to the father. The father will turn to the sons. And they said, we know she has a destiny. We know that her destiny is yours and we're calling her home. Your prayers matter. Like I've never prayed for the loss more in my entire life because I know that the demonic is real. I know that hell is real. I know that we go somewhere when we die. Jesus is the only way. I know it now. I've experienced. experienced the other side. And they, they fasted and prayed. And I call my mom. I said, Mom, do you know anything about the Nephilim or the Anunnaki? Normal conversation with mom, right?

She's like, mom, you do you even nephalum? She's like fist pumping the sky because she'd gotten into all this. We're talking like a Methodist pastor's wife. But when you lose your daughter to the dark kingdom, you're going to find the solutions. You're going to go, what is the infrastructure of the demonic world? It's like Liam Neeson and Taken. She's after you. That's 100% it. She is it, yes. So she was like, I have specific skills. Now, I'm curious, because in this part, too, you mentioned a chilling anecdote.

At what point did you actually, again, we don't know if it's actually him. Many accounts claim to be him, but you actually encountered the L man himself who said, you know, Lucifer actually said, petitioned you to actually go out, intercede for them and help them reconcile to God, which is like the wildest thing. And actually, I'll say, in some of our anecdotal stories from Father Martins, there have been reports of demons

for a moment feigning, like, pain and saying, have mercy on me, you know, and just interesting. Very, you know, and then he'll always, I don't know if it's him or someone else, say, fine. Ask for forgiveness right now. Just bow at Jesus' feet, and they all. always respond with an expletive. Of course.

Okay. So where in the journey was that? That was my very, so I had called my mom. I said, what do I need to know about this? Nephilim Ananaki, she sends me blurry creatures. She sends me Dr. Laura Sanger. She send me a couple more. And I start just, I mean, with veracity, ingesting everything I can because I'm getting

the answers that I always needed to realize I'm playing for the wrong team. all this technology that I'm utilizing with ayahuasca, with Wachuma, with these New Age practices, it is divination and it is sourced in the occult, which is 100% the fallen angels, with all these religions that I was like, well, let's cherry pick. I still had my hands out because I'm like, I'm getting the information, taking it to my ex-husband, but he is like, no way. I have found my path and it's shamanism. So again, it was a choice.

It's like, do you want your marriage? And he even told me when the money was out, if you go back to America, I'm not going with you. I found my path in my calling. It's here. So here was this idol of my marriage or Jesus. So I'm getting back into Jesus and I get invited to do one, Wachuma. And now this is not usually psychedelic. It's a Peruvian cactus you drink.

It's a heart opener. You're like hugging trees. The earth is moving. You feel love moving through your body. like you feel great. So this time I prayed and I asked, I was like, Jesus, I just want to see if I can do this and have you. So I'm still seeing if I can do my marriage with psychedelics and Jesus. Simon the sorcerer here.

I'm in the sorcerer, yeah, don't recommend it. So I go in and I'm having this beautiful day and I get to the end and the sun is down and the stars are out beautiful Costa Rican night. And I'm sitting there and there's a tree in front of me. And I'm not moving. I'm just looking at the tree. And all of a sudden the star Venus pops out from the tree. And I'm like, did I just move? And I look up at it. And all of a sudden I like hold myself down and the star moves back from behind the tree. And I'm like, I did not move. And this is not a psychedelic. That star is moving. I open myself up like, okay, what is happening right now? And when I say it's like a psychic transmission of entities, it's not like I'm hearing an audible voice, it's more like a in your mind, in your spirit, they're speaking to you.

There's a lot of them that masquerade and say they're Satan. I'm not saying the actual Satan came to me, but he said he was Satan. And he was beautiful, beautiful. And he said, Krista, now this is the first trick that Satan pulls in the garden with Eve. it's like, are you sure your father's good? Like, right? It's that putting the doubt, like, how could he be good if he doesn't want you to be like him? Doesn't he want you to be? Does he not want you to eat this? Why would he not want you to do that? And it's this just little doubt. Well, is he really good? And he comes to me. Now, mind you at this point, I had not read the book of

Enoch. I did not know that the watchers came to Enoch in this extra biblical text that I will give context too. It's referenced in the book of Jude. It's referenced in the book of second Peter. So the biblical writers knew this as like their their ancient architecture of the fall. So I hadn't read this. He comes to me and he's like, why is it fair that you get to get back in and I don't? And he was like pleading. Now I have like a mama heart. I'm a mercy gift. And I've actually always wondered that. In fact, when I got into more of the universal Christ, I got into two Christian speakers who were like, listen, scripture says every knee will bow, every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. How do you get into heaven? You have to confess and believe

even Satan's going to be reconciled one day. Like that was the theology that I had gotten into. Why? Because I wanted to have a God that was that good, right? I didn't want to just read the text as it was with my limited human mind where I was the judge of goodness. I just, I was like, well, maybe that's it. So he comes to me and he's like, he said, Krista, what do you, what do your kids do when they want your attention? They act up. He was like, what have I been doing? I've been acting up trying to get my father's attention. Why is it fair that he will forgive you and he will not forgive me? And it is making sense. It's making sense. I'm on psychedelic. I'm like, it makes sense.

Why won't you give Satan another chance? You give me another chance. I tell my ex-husband, I have this massive encounter with, quote unquote, Satan. I tell my ex-husband, I'm like, I have to advocate for him before the father to see if we can get him back in. Because if he's doing a Nobel Peace Prize right there. Like, if he's doing all this bad stuff, it's because he's hurting. He just needs forgiveness like we get. So the next morning I wake up and I'm telling you, this is the power of prayer, praying parents, praying

friends, praying people who'd watch me be a Christian author speaker going crazy. I wake up and because I had been putting the truth of the word of God in me, I woke up and I literally said, get thee behind me, Satan. I knew what he had done. I knew that he had masqueraded as an angel of light. The Holy Spirit was all over me. I could see what he had done. And that was the last ceremony I ever did. It was almost like, we're losing her.

Like, throw the hell Mary to Krista and see if we can get her to do something good because there's a lot of good people. The main shaman I worked with is one of the greatest men. He truly, he fast, he prays, he lives a diet, diet lifestyle. He stays up all night multiple times a week, just helping people because he truly believes. that he is helping people. So the enemy plays off of even people's goodness inside of the medicine to try to rope them back in and get them to stay. But thank God, I'd been listening to the truth

and I was like, uh-uh, you will not have me anymore. And that's the last ceremony I ever did. So basically it was, so you were petitioning, you were telling people, I got a petition for Satan. And is that when everyone's like, Krista, I think you've officially lost it. And was that the wake-up call?

The people in the medicine are like, yeah, that makes sense. That's the thing. Like, when you're in that world, you want everything to be love and light, right? So I'm so curious, what, so what, so what was the thing and find like, that's it? I've gone too far. Like, what was the moment when you're like, I'm done? When I woke up and I was off the psychedelics, you see, when you're on it, things that should not make sense.

Like, like false Jesus came to me multiple times in the medicine. And what would false Jesus say? False Jesus will affirm your sin. false Jesus. I had one girl next to me one time who, man, she was, she was identifying as they, them with her pronouns. She was telling me this beforehand. And I'm telling you, there was a lot of they, them going on beside her in the night. It was all these voices. It was all these entities. You know, it was interesting. Like with Legion, we're Legion, we are many. There was so much going on. false Jesus would come in and like affirm things and people would affirm falsehoods.

I would see things. And again, there would be healings in there and it would pose as Jesus. But just like I always say the texture wasn't clean. Holy doesn't even do it right. You know the feeling of Jesus. When you've felt his love, it feels clean. So there's power attached to even false Jesus in the medicine that come. and we'll be like, I am Jesus, but usually at the expense of sound biblical doctrine. That's so interesting. So from there, what was your journey back to Christ? And did you go through any sort of deliverance, renunciation?

Obviously, you opened up some serious doors there. What's been your journey back to the real light? I have a deliverance session tomorrow. I mean, when you invite a lot of Klingons in and you open doors legally, to the demonic. And again, it's not full-on possession. It's not like an exorcism. But there are things that I could feel inside of me.

I'll just say when I came back to Jesus, Dr. Laura Sanger, I don't know if you've had her on your podcast. She's amazing. And she invited a bunch of like worship leaders to come who all listen to blurry creatures. And we came. And that first night, I was just sitting there and we were going around introducing ourselves.

We get the microphone to me. And I'm like, my name's Krista. I was a worship leader. I got hijacked by the occult. And I was like, my divorce just ended. And I absolutely hate my ex-husband. And I was bawling my eyes out. And so everybody kind of comes around me.

And this girl, this worship leader, comes in front of me. And she goes, oh, Kundalini came after you. And when she said it, my inside starts shaking. Just from the bottom of my spine to the top of my spine to the top of my head just start shaking. Now was I fully possessed and taken over? No, I had I had full reign of my faculties, but I through yoga, through meditation, through psychedelics, through drugs, I had invited this thing into me that had legal authority. And she just very beautifully just said, Jesus, we just take authority over this and you have no hold over her. And I felt this thing

leave me. And then I felt the Holy Spirit come in and my hatred for my ex-husband. I was like, I feel forgiveness for him. So again, there's been a lot of deliverance that has had to happen. And it's been a process of that. But when the money ran out completely and we were on iterations of rice and beans for the kids, my parents got tickets for me to bring the kids home for that summer in 2023. And I kissed my ex-husband goodbye. I said, I'll get us back. You know, I'll see you in September.

And we got to Texas for what my kids thought was going to be a vacation. We had three suitcases full clothes. And he just stopped talking to me. He'd done a vision quest that was this more Native American. And that's the thing. So much of this is like Native American. Americans use peyote. This one was ayahuasca and Wachuma, and it was four days and five nights and, you know, a caterpillar and a butterfly given downloads or a frog and our marriage is also to end.

You know, there's just all of this information that comes in. And it was the most painful thing I had ever been through, but it's exactly what I needed because I was so addicted to the restoration of what I thought my marriage was supposed to look like. that I was letting go to what God was trying to do in order to rescue me from something. And so I finally, I was reluctantly in Abilene. I don't know if you were like this. I don't know where you grew up. I grew up in Abilene, Texas, and I could not wait to get out of here as a high schooler.

I mean, I've lived in New York, in L.A. and London. Abilene, like, no. But you got a great steakhouse there. Oh, Perrinis? I know. Have you eaten in it? I have. President Bush used to go there.

Yeah. Yes, he did. It's the best steak. I just ate there like a couple weeks ago. So we do have good steak. And I'm 100% carnivore. So, but other than that, I did not want to be here. So I am miserable driving around. I don't want to be here. I'm broke. My credit cards are maxed out. I'm finding out all this loss. We had a storage unit in Nashville. And I'm like, well, I guess I need to get our stuff out of our storage unit. I call. And it had been sold for lack of payment and everything I owned. All my instruments, lanyards, my children's baby boxes, all of our furniture, everything was gone. Like when we had given the enemy legal authority to go to zero, we went to zero, okay?

So I needed money. My mom at her healing center was doing a Christian retreat. She invited these three people in, Ed Watts, John and Jolene Hamel, and Jamie Fit. And she was like, I'll pay you 50 bucks a session to play volleyball. Well, I was not there for Jesus. I was there because I needed $50 a session. I was like, yes, I will prostitute my gift. So I'm playing and I had gotten married at this day of fasting and prayer in Nashville called The Call. And it was 70,000 people who'd flown in from all over the world. It was televised on God TV everywhere. And my ex-husband and I got married on 7707.

And so people all over the world would come up to me and be like, I remember. you on your wedding day because you represented the bride of Christ as the whole stadium was singing and worshiping. And when you walked down the aisle, we all collectively as the bride renewed our covenant vows to Jesus. So then I'm turning with Michael DeB. Smith. So after my wedding, I'm like, well, this is my wedding day. I'm going to stay in my wedding dress. So I get up on stage with him while we're doing our set. And he's playing Agnes Day. And he turns around and he looks at me and he He was like, you're the bride. Like, you take this one.

And so I am as the bride, I just got married. And I'm worshipping. I'm singing holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty. And I remember the Holy Spirit telling me, you know, Krista, I chose you. I chose you that day to represent my global bride. And your life has become an example of what happened. happens when mixture gets in. Your life has become an example of what happens when you lose your first love. And we had a target on our back. So these two songs had been sung at my wedding. And I'm sitting there

in this worship service and the conference that my mom's doing. And one of the guys goes, I just feel like today we're supposed to renew our covenant vows to Jesus and divorce bail. Well, that's exactly what happened when I got married on 7707. And here I am broken. My marriage is falling apart. My husband has stopped speaking to me. I'm in the hole. I've lost everything. And so I'm sitting there. I'm really uncomfortable. But I'm like, okay, I'm okay divorcing bail. I don't like him, you know. But if I say yes to you, Jesus, like it means that my marriage that I have fought for, part of me was still, even after losing everything and being lied to all of the stuff. cheated on. Part of me was still hoping for restoration, to be honest. That's what trauma bonds do.

I said, okay, Jesus, I'm not ready to remarry you, but I'll divorce bail. And the worship leader at this conference starts singing the very song that I walk down the aisle to. And I'm, I look over at my mom, and she's like, she tries to put her arm around me, and I'm like, no. And I'm so mad. and I go outside and I'm saying not kind words to Jesus. And I'm like, I cannot believe that this is happening, you know. And if you want me back, it's got to be better than like a song and the same thing that happened on my wedding day. So I didn't, I was bawling.

I didn't want to go back in, but I needed my $50. I get paid. I know. I know. So I'm going to go back in. So I go back in. And, um, as, I'm walking in, the worship leader starts playing Agnus Day, the very song that I led on my wedding

day. The synchronicity of the, you know, pastor saying, we're going to do the very thing you did on your wedding day and the two wedding songs that you not only led and sung, but you walked down the aisle too. Like, only Jesus could orchestrate that, you know? And so my heart is softening, but I'm not all in yet. So the service ends, and I go up to the other speaker. And I don't know this guy, but I just said, hey, Ed, I just want to thank you for today. I haven't been in the presence of Jesus for a really long time. And I just want to thank you. I got married at the call on 7707.

And apparently my marriage is over. My husband is stopped talking to me. And his eyes like Silver Dollar for a second, you know, when somebody's eyes, he just looks at me. And he puts up his hand to stop me. and he points to his wrist. And, you know, those like Lance Armstrong plastic bracelets that everybody wore. This one was so worn. It didn't have any print on it.

It had nothing on it. It was ugly and like yellowish brown. And he looked at me and he said, he had tears that were filling his eyes. And he said, you know, Krista, I got this bracelet on your wedding day at the call 7707. And every time I went to take it off. for 16 years, you know, for my son's wedding or like something fancy. He said, the Lord just said, not yet. Not yet. And the beauty of this prodigal father that is weaving and rescuing and interceding and longing for his children to come home is that he knew, outside of time and space,

that 16 years past my wedding day, I would be standing in front of a man. and needing a sign to come back to Jesus. And so this beautiful, sweet, obedient man had listened to the voice of the Holy Spirit and worn an ugly bracelet to all his fancy weddings and all his fancy things so that on that day, I would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus wants me back. I am his, I am his bride. And I was like, I'm in. I'm weeping.

He's weeping. I'm hugging. I'm like, I'm back, Jesus. And when I say he took that moment and the restoration of God has been only supernatural, only supernatural. The hatred, you know, somebody, I lost everything. Somebody gave me a car. So somebody, you know, gave me a guitar, things that were just lost. And again, it's not about the physical thing. It's more about my broken heart. Man, I can't shut up about Jesus. I can't. I was a Christian author speaker and I read.

rarely evangelized. I spoke to Christians. Now I'm just like, man, the demonic is real. They are here to kill you. Let's know spiritual warfare, but only because we know Jesus and what he's done for us. He's it. Amen. Oh my gosh. Well, that is beautiful. And thank you for sharing that. I'm so glad. God is good. And if we ever option your story, we can call it peyote ugly. How about that? Payote ugly. That's it. That's right. That's the end there.

That's the end. Final encouragement on this topic, spiritual warfare, hallucinogenic gaze to try and get to Jesus, God's goodness. What's your encouragement to everyone watching right now? My encouragement is that you have everything that you need inside of the Holy Spirit. He's far better than jump in the fence, popping a pill, taking a plant, seeing something that I'm telling you it's going to be

deceptive. the Holy Spirit through the person of Jesus Christ, leading you to the Father, giving you access to the throne room, is better than anything that you can do that could open you up to something that could destroy your life. Amen. And go to Perini's, right? And go to Perini Steakhouse. Amen. Well, thank you so much, folks. And it sounds like, according to Krista Joy Black, if you get offered for someone to show you a ayahuasca ceremony, you are supposed to say, no gracias. No, thanks for listening, folks. Stay demon-free as usual. God bless you all. And God bless this was precious to United States.