The Exorcist Files - S2-Case #11-Live Free-Pt 2

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

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that I will always hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the arts, parts, or points of the hidden mysteries of the ancient Freemasonry, which may have been or hereafter shall be, at this time, or any future period, communicated to me. All this I most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution to perform the same, without any mental reservation or secret evasion of mind, whatever binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across,

my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea. At low watermark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in 24 hours, should I ever knowingly violate any of this my entered apprentice obligation. So help me God, and keep me steadfast. than a new performance of the same.

Welcome back to The Exorcist Files, a positively powerful paragrenation into the pathos of the preternatural. I'm your co-host, Ryan Bethay. Today we bring you part two of our Freemasonry Deep Dive. Where we last left off, Adelaide, a kind-hearted and warm Christian grandmother,

was besieged by an escalating series of demonic attacks in her home, ultimately even harassing her granddaughter. After a series of unsuccessful exorcism sessions and the inability of prayer to remove the assailing entity, Father Martens, on a hunch, discovered a deep familial tie to Freemasonry in her family line and is now exploring whether the curses of the Masonic oath could in fact be the source of her vexing affliction. Today we will continue our probing into the question, is Freemasonry an innocuous social club with prominent members of history?

united in a quest to better mankind, or, like the Transformers, is there more than meets the eye? As always, dear listener, we leave you to decide. As a reminder, this show is not intended for all audiences, just grateful ones. So let's get back to Father, who was giving us a brief on the rights and oaths conducted during initiation into this fraternal society. We covered the process for the initial entry, but let's take a look at the process as one ascends through the ranks. The self-cursing continues with the other oaths of initiation. In the second degree, called the Fellowcraft degree,

the candidate offers his consent to be tortured and killed as his guarantee that he will follow the Masonic precepts. Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my left breast torn open, my heart plucked out and given as a prey to the wild beasts of the field and the fowls of the air as a prey. And in the third, the master Mason degree, he reaffirms his consent to be killed and even offers as collateral the erasure of his own, quote, wretched, unquote, memory from history. Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my body severed into, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes. The ashes scattered with the four winds of heaven, so that no more trace over.

remembrance may be had of so vile and perjured or wretch as I. Should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this solemn obligation as a masturbation? So help me God and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same. No Christian has the right to bind himself to such wickedness. We are the Lord's unique possession and our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit. To invoke darkness and evil upon ourselves, or to lead others to do so as the Masons do, is to invoke a self-imposed curse. But we are directly exhorted by Paul in Romans 12 to bless our enemies and not to curse them. The Christian who makes the Masonic oath directly violates this biblical teaching by transforming himself into his own enemy. As Father shared all these secret initiation

ceremonies. I couldn't help but reflect on the American college experience with fraternities and sororities and even some of the semi-secret academic societies, where oaths are part of the initiation. If our words indeed matter as much as they do, it begs the question, what are the potential impacts of these oaths? Of course, the idea that words and spoken oaths can have spiritual influence in our lives is not relegated just to Christianity. In Japanese culture, there is a concept known as Kotodama, which refers to the power of words to enact influence over our lives. Literally translated, it means the spirit of language. Today, the influence of this ancient religion persists in contemporary Japanese culture, or careful speech and avoidance of inauspicious

words are practiced in certain contexts. For example, words associated with death or misfortune are often avoided during New Year's celebrations, weddings, and other auspicious occasions. This practice stems from the belief in the power of words to attract or repel spiritual energies. Now, this may make you wonder, if in some belief systems certain words aren't even to be uttered, then what would be the effects of these oaths and promises made in a temple setting? Scripture also offers wisdom on this very topic. The Book of James acknowledges the power of words when it states, the power of life or death is in the tongue.

But we need not give in to fear or despair, because if the Christian narrative is indeed true, then Christ's authority surpasses all these oaths and bonds, and he is able to liberate all who have been ensnared by such curses. And that, friends, is the best news. If one has any doubt that what appears to be a little Masonic dress-up ceremony can bring about great spiritual consequences, he should note that the oath ceremonies are buttressed from end to end with symbolic sleight of hand. After reciting the first oath, the candidate's blindfold is removed, and he finds himself kneeling before a Masonic altar, upon which a Bible has been placed, which he kisses to

ratify the oath he has just made. This kiss, however, must not be understood to be an act of Christian devotion, even when performed by a most devout Christian. The emblem of free masonry, a square and compass, rests on top of the Bible he is kissing. You might be thinking, well, if I were taking the oath, I would ignore the square and compass and just direct my devotion to the Bible. The Masons have outsmarted you even on that one. While the Masons do not reveal this to the candidate, within their own Masonic ritual, the Christian Bible is defined as merely a piece of, of, quote, furniture.

In other words, for the Masons, the Word of God is merely a physical stand for displaying the square and compass, the Masonic symbol, which is at heart an occult symbol. In agreeing to the Masonic oath, you are subject to their religious and spiritual redefinitions, even if you do not personally believe in them. In fact, the candidate binds himself spiritually

in the first oath to have no other interpretation than the Masonic one. He declares, quote, all this, I most solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution, without any mental reservation or secret evasion of mind, end quote. He himself has nullified his ability to spiritually choose other than what masonry has chosen for him. Masonic lodges have no problem substituting the Islamic Quran or some other text, such as the candidate desires.

Albert Pike, perhaps the most renowned Masonic commentator, in his book Morals and Dogma, states that whatever text is used, the square and compass must rest on top of it, since, quote, properly understood, these are the great lights by which a mason must walk in. work, end quote. The square and the compass being someone's great lights? Again, this is religious language with religious implications. In making a Masonic oath, the Christian is implicitly agreeing

that Freemasonry supersedes the word of God. Such is the case, even if he does not believe it to be so in his heart. This is the problem with making oaths. Oaths, oaths. are contractual. No one gets to redefine a contract's terms after signing it. Masonic rituals and their blood oaths are designed to forge covenant relationships that supersede all other covenants. They are acts of deception, whereby one is duped into agreements, agreements that are deceptively camouflaged in symbolic language, but that grant covenantial rights to demons.

But the oaths themselves are just one aspect of the deception, a deception that forges covenantial rights. The second aspect is how those covenantial rights manifest. The rights that Masonic oaths grants to demons often only manifest in subsequent generations. In my experience, the oath takers themselves do not seem to suffer the ill effects of the Masonic covenants they have made, at least not immediately. The ill effects are visited upon their descendants. In other words, the effect produced by a Masonic oath is nothing other than the imposition of a generational curse.

Now, given that the initiation ceremony involves instruments placed on top of a Bible, it does bring to mind the oaths taken with a Bible for, say, a court appearance or a marriage ceremony. When you say in court, I solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God. Why is that form of swearing not wrong? When one swears in for the public good to tell the truth, they are aligning themselves with clear Christian teaching, which is to not lie.

And in this context, one of the court setting, one would be supporting justice. Truth and justice are inseparable from God's character. Proverbs 1222, for example, states, The Lord detests lying lips. Similarly, with a marriage vow. In that context, is taking a public oath in front of family honoring the sacrament of marriage spelled out explicitly

in scripture. Both of these oaths are public and aligned with God's intent for man, whereas Freemasonry's oaths are secret, ambiguous, and potentially manipulate people into swearing allegiance to something other than God, who explicitly states, none shall come before him. Now, let's learn a bit more about advancing through masonry. You may be surprised that masonry seems to have more levels than Tetris. There are 33 levels in Masonry. There simply is not enough time on this show to go through the initial ceremonies of every level.

Suffice it to say, however, as the candidate further advances in masonry, the more bizarre and more anti-Catholic the rituals get. In the 30th degree of the Scottish right, the same right to which Adelaide's grandfather belonged, the candidate, who is now a full-fledged mason, is presented with a skull upon which has been placed a mock papal tiara. He is told that it, quote, represents the tiara of the cruel and cowardly pontiff, end quote. And, quote, is therefore the crown of an imposter, end quote. A senior mason then stabs the skull with a dagger,

while the candidate is made to yell, quote, down with the imposter, down with crime, end quote, before stamping on it. And while perhaps it can easily be argued that this is just for show, and people dress up and do all sorts of theatrical ceremonies with little intention behind it, the fact remains. If these rights, as we have described them, are accurate, why are they so intense? If it's just a social club, what is the main purpose behind such rituals? Okay, class, Freemasonry 101 is dismissed.

Let's get back to Father in Adelaide, where she was starting to experience some strange sensations following the revelation of her Freemasonry heritage. Knowing that her grandfather was a high-ranking Freemason, I began to lead Adelaide through a series of renunciations. All right, Adelaide, since you know that Freemasonry is in your family line, we need to renounce the oats your grandfather took to be a mason. Those oaths were covenants he made, and his entire lineage, including you, was included within the oath. I don't understand, Father. I have nothing to do with the masons. My grandfather, it was a great man. He would never want any harm to come to me. I know, I know. But indeed, if your grandfather was a Mason, he made formal vows, vows that included lineage for generations as collateral.

I'm sure he had no formal awareness of the cost his lineage would pay. But you know what? It doesn't matter. Jesus paid all the costs, and in him, we can set you free and break any and all contracts. Okay. Okay. Okay. To be clear, you're not renouncing your grandfather.

I'm sure you loved him very much. Yes. You're renouncing the occultic over. he took and the spiritual authority he leveraged against you. This is the only way to break this, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay, pray with me. Okay. God the Father, I give you thanks for creating Adelaide. I give you thanks for gifting the world with her presence. I thank you for all the skills and abilities with which you endowed her. I thank you for the way in which she has lived her life, for the Christian heart She is cultivated that radiates the love of you.

I thank you for bringing Adelaide into my life at this moment. Father, I lift her up to you and the monster that has been harassing her. Yes, Lord. I ask her in your mighty name that you fling it, far as far as the east is from the west, and remove it from her now. Adelaide, I need you to repeat after me. Okay. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus.

I forgive my grandfather for joining the Freemasons. Forgive my brief interruption here, as I just want to point out, we know you are hearing the words I forgive quite a bit in these prayers. When removing generational curses and breaking demonic packs, Father always includes forgiveness of the individual responsible for the victim's torment. Why? Because unforgiveness is a sin and is as big a doorway as any for the demonic to gain entry. Pain is real. suffering is real, but demons can and will play on that. Think about it. If someone discovered that a

friend or a loved one was responsible for their demonic torment, even if it was unintentional, that would certainly present fertile soil for resentful and hateful feelings to fester. Forgiveness is vital as the Lord's prayer teaches us, forgive us our sins, and we forgive those who have sinned against us. Okay, pardon that interruption. Back to you, Father. I forgive my grandfather for joining the Freemasons. I renounce, rebuke, reject, and repudiate the oaths he took. I renounce, rebuke, reject, and repudiate the oaths he took. Any curse, covenant, soul tie, and ungodly relationship.

Any curse, covenant, soul tie, an ungodly relationship. That came to me through them. that came to me through them. I ask you Almighty God to sever all ties between me and any curse from masonry. I ask you, Almighty God, to sever all ties between me and any curse from masonry. At that moment, there was wind. A wind passed through the room. I have to say it was pretty cool.

Something. Sometimes they leave with a bit of flare. How do you feel? Oh, Father, the happiness, it's gone. It was like electricity run through me. What was that? Was that normal? Normal is whatever God wants.

So you feel better. Oh, I feel free. The renunciations brought Adelaide instant relief. She was smiling and breathing much more lightly. Nevertheless, I wanted to make sure what was attacking her was not coming back. I'll cover this in another case, but sometimes the enemy pretends to leave. He fakes being gone.

I was going to have none of that. I placed my hand on her head and said, So Adelaide, in the name of Jesus, and with the authority of the church, I receive your renunciations. And in Christ's name, I sever any and every connection from whatever source by which the evil contained within Freemasonry laid a claim on you. Thank you, Lord. Christ has rendered all such claims null and void. You are a daughter of God the Father, and you belong to Him. Amen.

Amen. Thank you, Father. And that was that. Adelaide went home that afternoon and caught up on some much-needed sleep. There was no more monster in her house. Amen. Father Martin's here. I want to do a quick plug for one of the most powerful tools I've seen for breaking free and growing closer to Christ.

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conflict, an inability to complete one's education, or an inability to thrive in one's chosen career because of endless bad luck and repetitive patterns manifested through multiple generations. For example, husbands often leave their wives. Children often die young while still in childhood, etc. While it is not the norm, it is a reality. I have run into the evil effects of masonry so often that when I cannot find an obvious wound within a victim, checking for masonry is now one of the first things I do.

Now, to be clear, in no way, is Father Martin suggesting that every flu, cold or fender bender, or business deal gone bad is because a long-lost relative made a vow to a secret society. We do not go looking for demonic causes to all things. Rather, for Christians, there is an imperative to invite the Holy Spirit into everything and examine suffering through the lens of the spiritual as well. Too many people are often told they just need drugs or therapy, when it could be that they need spiritual assistance too.

Again, we refer you to some of the other stories we've shared on this show. As always, for the Christian with faith in Christ, it's good news either way. If you face adversity, and it seems to be just the world ganging up on you one day and times are tough, you can rest assured knowing that this is not the end, that there is a fuller and better reality awaiting, and that God is with us even in the hardest of times. Remember, most of the apostles, those closest to Jesus, were martyred. But in those times, when something may be spiritual, when it seems it could have its roots in the supernatural, then also rejoice because Christ has the victory. And as the scriptures say, he came to set the captives free.

Either way, Jesus wins. It is important to note that Adelaide removed the rights from the thing that she called the monster. All I did was give her the words. There is nothing magical about the words I gave her, however. I could have given her different words, and the effect would have been the same. In fact, I didn't need to be there at all. This is the thing that I often encounter with people. They think, if I don't use the exact words that I need to,

then my prayers won't work, and the evil harassing me won't stop. While it is important to be precise, what really makes evil go away is God. and God is not some cruel and disinterested wizard who does not respond unless he is invoked in one precise way. God is a loving father who is glad to be involved and come to the rescue. I think people in situations like Adelaide's would serve themselves better just by approaching God as the one who created them in love

and opening themselves up to him. In fact, a child's parents undertake an oath at baptism to raise the child as a Christian. They do not have to believe the baptism actually does anything. Strictly speaking, all that is necessary is that the one baptizing desires to do what the Christian church does when it baptizes. Thus, in Christianity, at least in the case of a child who is too young to have faith, the faith of the church suffices to impart the life-giving effects of baptism. Why should it be any different in Freemasonry? Hi friends, Father Martens here.

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to get $15 off your first order. So you may be thinking, okay, well, that's just Father Martin's take, but what's What do the other exorcists say? Well, unlike the dentists who only got a small majority to approve Trident gum, 100% of exorcists, I polled, said Freemasonry was something you definitely wanted to avoid. So please welcome back, Father John Zeta, the Exorcist for Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and Father Dan Rehill, the exorcist for Nashville, Tennessee, as we share some snippets from our conversation about Freemasonry. I'm going to ask each you individually, what's your one-word take on Freemasonry?

Father Zeta? Dangerous. Father Rehill, cursed. What has been your experience with Freemasonry? Have you encountered people afflicted from demonic curses that have seen improvement when breaking off Freemasonry from their lives or past lives? I would say there's two levels. Many levels that I've had are people who have had oppression basically in their lives. And when we go into their history and discover that there is, in fact, Freemasonry and family backgrounds,

then when we deal with those particular issues and the healing, the breaking of those curses, there's a real improvement in their situations. But I've also had one particular case. I'm sure we'll talk about it later of a gentleman who attempted to get out of the masons, and as a result, he and his family were under severe attack. Father Dan, what has been your experience with Freemasonry, if any? Largely the same thing, oppression. So it's physical attacks against.

the body. Sometimes they're disguised very well. They look like typical illnesses, but there's no measured prescription to relieve them from the normal things people would have when they go to the doctors, nothing works. And it's been some people who, they thought their whole life they had the celiac that they couldn't eat gluten. And then after we do the prayers to break all the curses, they suddenly can eat anything they want. They're back to a perfect health and wellness. And all that stuff seems to go away pretty quickly within a day or two. And the other thing people start to recognize is they call it family curse, like the generations of problems in a family, without realizing sometimes those things are being passed on through these oaths that some gentleman in the history of this family made through these Masonic oaths they take. And in the oath, there's built-in curses so that if they ever go against the Masons or try to get out of the Masons, it activates all these oaths to go into play, and it hits the whole family.

So it goes right through the whole family lineage. And, you know, poor Johnny, the grandson, two generations later, has no idea why he has all these ailments. But suddenly, when he's getting labeled, like he's just a weak kid, his system is just weak. Meanwhile, it's these curses that the grandfather put in play, you know, 40 years earlier that nobody really thought about. And so I ask that as a routine question in every case I get, is there any possibility you have any Masonic members in your family? And they say we don't know, then I presume there could be, and we go through breaking them to see if anything happens. Can't hurt to do it. Father Zeta, do you want to add anything to that?

No, I agree completely with that. I do the same thing. I try to ask that question. And yes, it seems like it gets passed down through those generations, and they don't even realize it. And then when they start to ask themselves questions, then they discover things in their background that they weren't even aware of. So it's important to probe that particular long of questioning. So, Father Dan, let me start with you on. this one. Father Martins has profiled numerous cases, and in fact, in season two, I think our first

three cases involve some sort of generational sin. Obviously, Father's Day to the one you shared is not Freemasonry, but does involve a parent, you know, cursing their child, you know, explicitly. Does the Catholic Church have any sort of teaching, official teaching, on the idea of generational curses? We've had some people write in and say, is this the thing, you know, because experientially, we talk to all the time, and it seems this is a widely accepted phenomenon in spiritual virtual warfare circles. Are there any official teachings on generational curses as far as their validity and then elaborating further, you do run into this quite a bit? I do. And to be honest, it depends on what priest you're talking to because I've met priests who've said, no, you can't do

that sort of thing. You can't pass it on to your kids because, you know, you have your own free will and God's not going to violate it with this or that or the other thing. And I'm kind of on the other And to the spectrum, I say, I've seen it, that these things can be passed on. And it's scriptural. You know, the Lord says, for those who would disobey me, there'll be curses to the third generation blessing for those a thousand generations who voluntarily follow me. So, you know, if God said it, I don't know how the church could go against it. We don't like to think of this in these terms because people feel it's not fair.

Why should a grandchild be burdened with something the grandfather did? It's not fair. Well, yeah. But in the world of the spirit realm, this is all about dominion and access, and somebody gave permission at some point, right? We say that as a parent, if I have a child, I can make the decision for the child to be baptized, and God honors that, even though the child had no free will decision in that. Similarly, if I satanically and ritually abuse a kid, that's my grandchild or my child, they also know that they have dominion in that case because the parents giving the authority over to the demons. You would also say, like, look, you can debate me, but you've seen people who are suffering, and then once generational curse has been renounced or broken, you've seen them get better?

Yes, and that's where the proof lies. You know, even people that are doubters, when they suddenly realize they have three siblings and two of them have had this issue. It isn't a science. So maybe in a family of 10 people, maybe three or four have an affliction. And they said, well, why doesn't everybody have it? I don't know. I mean, if it was a science, this would be a lot easier.

But we just know that based on the individual and their spiritual DNA makeup is in this case, it affected them. But then when everybody gets set free, when the prayers are prayed by one member, then you're like, well, wow, that's powerful. Father Zeta, would you add to that as well? And I'm curious if this is relevant, but is it also fair to say, hey, we're all suffering from the sin of Adam and Eve so that you shouldn't be held responsible for someone's actions. Well, the entire Christian narrative is predicated on two people back in a garden based. ruined the universe for us, and we are now all bearing that punishment. And I think you're all exactly correct. Every time we get together, for example, exorcist meetings or conferences, there's always

a debate that goes on back and forth between the different guys. Some say it is possible. Some say it is impossible. So, yeah, there's no absolute consensus on the issue. It depends. But on the other hand, if we accept the fact that curses are real, if one person can curse another person, and, you know, this innocent person is something. effects of a curse, yeah, by all means, if we don't accept the fact that Freemason curses

can have their effects down generations, then why should one person be able to curse another one and have its effect? So you're exactly correct. We sometimes think of ourselves as independent entities when in fact we're not. We're all interconnected. Of course, as Christians, we believe in the mystical body of Christ, but sharing the same human nature, yes, we're all prone to those same weaknesses under the dominion of Satan. So by all means, yeah, it's possible. Absolutely. Father Zeta, what makes Freemasonry so insidious and why is it incompatible, despite all the Freemasons who will public say, oh, we're like a rotary club, you know, we believe in God, you know, et cetera. We actually in this episode put out the oaths, which my team stopped and said, are you sure you

want our actors to read these? They say, like, I bind on my children's children that they tear out my guts and I mean, the kind of thing we were like, yeah, I'd keep that secret too. But what makes Freemasonry so insidious? I think from the very beginning, one of the prime goals of Freemasonry was to destroy the Catholic Church. In a sense, it was setting itself up as an anti-church, something that was going to work to undermine and destroy the influence of the Catholic Church in society and history. And connected to that is the fact that when you get to those higher levels of Freemasonry that you get to find out, what it's really all about. They don't really believe in Jesus Christ as God. They believe in the

architect of the universe and whatever you want to call him. But ultimately, when it gets to the highest levels, it's purely demonic at its core. But you don't find that out until almost it's too late. Those are, I think, the two biggest things. The fact that its prime purpose was to destroy the Catholic Church. And the second thing is that it's ultimately devil worship, the worship of Satan. But you don't find that out until later. So top secret stuff. Father Dan, would you like to, anything to add on that? Yeah, I think the insidiousness of the whole cult is that they very cleverly start off with the first level being very innocent. And there's really no markings that this is a problem by joining it, right?

And with each level you advance, they draw a little more deeper into the darkness until you're making these oath to have your intestines ripped out of your body and eaten by the birds of the air. And you're like, what am I doing here? And that's when people start to think, maybe I should get out of this, and that's precisely when they activate all those oaths to go into effect. So it's deceptive, it's evil, it's diabolical in the way it's contrived to make it look innocent in the beginning and then trap people and to get staying into it. And at the highest levels it is. And the other issue the church has with it is you're making oaths to an entity that is not the one true God. And that's the biggest issue. Father Zeta, for your experiences with Freemasonry, Father Dan alluded to some health ailments.

etc. Could you give any, you know, and obfuscate any details about, but could you give any examples of deliverances that you've done and people who may have, you know, what are the types of manifestations you've seen from people being afflicted by Freemasonry curses? Are there any examples of things that, you know, rectified themselves after breaking those off, similar to what Father Dan shared? I'll go into that, that one case that I had that was pretty intense. Again, it was exactly as father then described, a man who was in the Masons and was progressing up the ranks and then got to that certain point where he realized, I don't want to be part of this anymore, he wrote a letter, you know, renouncing his membership in the Masons. And at that point,

severe demonic attacks began against him and his family. The physical attacks, spiritual attacks, it was very serious. He tried to get rid of all of his Masonic regalia. What was interestingly enough, he got rid of everything except one thing. I won't say exactly what it was, but one item disappeared. It wasn't where it was supposed to be, and they couldn't find it. So finally, we brought him to a church, he, his family, he and his wife went to confession. We did all of the renunciations of the ranks and so forth, and then all the prayers of the breaking of the curses. And then, interestingly enough, that one item reappeared.

But the point is it reappeared because it wasn't his anymore. He had already renounced it. And so then they were able to destroy all of those things. And that's the key. Those things had to be destroyed. I had another case where it was an attack, but a gentleman who had a sword that he believed was a Civil War era sword, which he was going to pass on to his son.

And then they discovered that it was, in fact, a masonic. And they were really concerned about the effects that was going to have. And there were some negative things happening in the family, but it wasn't so serious attacks. So again, what we did was, an exorcism of the sword and in prayers of protection for the family, and then they were able to destroy it. Up to that point, they couldn't get rid of it. They couldn't destroy it. But once all of those exorcisms and prayers were done, then they were able to get rid of it and destroy it. So

it comes in different ways. It affects us in different ways. And so when you're doing these sessions, Father Zedda and Father Dan, are these cases, like in the case we share, the woman doesn't actually manifest or anything. It's just when she breaks this curse, she feels better, and then the manifestations in her house stopped. Is that the case, or have you had actual demons explicitly manifest and says it's because of Freemasonry, I'm allowed to be here? I've never seen that, but I've seen two different cases where the person began to start praying the prayers to break the curses, and they locked up and they couldn't move their mouth. So then I have to take authority over mute spirits and spirits of blockage and games, and then they're able to start speaking again,

and then they get through a few more, and then it's happened again. Just these two, times, the rest I've never had a problem. But in these two particular cases, you had to literally walk them through and keep binding, casting things off and to get the prayers done. I've never had that, per se. I've had people get hesitant or not able to continue, but they were able to do it on their own. They were able to force themselves, so to speak, to continue with the prayers. But no, it's not possession, so the demons don't really manifest as such, but they can show their presence, even though they're not in possession. Father Dan, are there any other details that you could Obisgate about a case. You mentioned even digestive issues, which is interesting because there is

reference to the bowels and the curse. So I wondered if you thought that might be related. Are there any patterns that you found in your experiences that tend to alleviate themselves and any specific case details you could share? You know, sometimes it's the digestive. Other times it's the lunges, bronchial issues, asthma, all sorts of allergies. And we're taught by the medical profession. This is an allergy because of this food or this particular pollen and everybody has it, don't worry about it. Well, maybe, but the doctor has no idea that there could be something in that lineage. Somebody comes in for one thing. Usually it is stomach related with the ones I've treated. They'll go, oh, by the way, my allergies are gone. Oh,

a nice side effect. Yeah, that's glad we did that because sometimes you don't even know what's there nationally and what's there supernaturally. How pervasive is Freemasonry? And I'll start with you on this one, Father Zeta. How pervasive is free masonry such that is it something you look for right away in someone? Obviously, some people have no idea about their family history. Is there any reason for every single person alive today not to just say, hey, if there's any Freemasonry, I renounce it, any thoughts on that, and then how ubiquitous Freemasonry is? Is it something that you think a lot of people have? Yeah, I think it's very pervasive. And if a person comes to me, complaining of the situation. We always do an intake. We have a seven-page intake form, okay? And in that, one of the

main areas highlights, is there any history of freemasing reading your family? So we focus on that right off the bat. We ask that question to see if there's an impossibility of, and of course, depending on what the symptomology is, depending on what the person's complaining of. But we will ask that question immediately from the very beginning. Father Dan, do you have any thoughts? Is this something that every Christian everywhere should renounce to them. Maybe a general question, too, for generational curses. Because the worst case is nothing happens, right? But is there any downside or reason not for everyone, given how ubiquitous remastery is, to self-renunciate?

I mean, I don't do that. Generally speaking, when people come in, the same thing. Spiritual and take form, whole history on their sexual behaviors and drug use and all that. And then occult stuff. So if somebody comes in, I had a case where a Catholic, we just talked to. about this today on the radio. This Catholic guy, about 28 years old, the bars are closing in Nashville, and he says to his buddy, let's get some drugs. And the guy goes, oh, I know a place. And they take him to his house. Now imagine bringing a doorbell at three in the morning. Like,

who does that? But the door opens, and they walk into this living room that's lit by candles that has pentagrams on the wall and upside down crucifixes. And still, his spidey senses didn't go off. And he buys this crystal meth and he smokes it. And the minute he smokes it, He feels the demons go into him. So when that guy comes to me, I'm not thinking it's Masonic. I'm thinking it's the crystal meth that you smoked and then woke up sleeping with a witch. That's where I'm going to put my attention. If you're healthy and you have no real issues, there's no reason to go diving into this den of all these creepy things people have done.

But if you have issues, certainly, and I would say even if it just seems natural, like the allergies and all that sort of thing, food allergies, the gluten issue that so many people seem to. to have today, maybe half of them are not a physiological thing. Maybe it is spiritual. That's interesting you say that we have a donor who has a pain management clinic and addiction clinic in Toronto, a medical doctor. And he said that he deals a lot of people who are homeless and rehabilitated, who have a lot of mental issues. And he said, for the chronic pain patients, he said, I don't say this with a lot of my doctor colleagues, but he's like many people are suffering from pain that we don't have a explanatory framework for. There's just chronic pain and we give him drugs to manage.

But he goes, I wonder as a physician, how much of this is spiritual or perhaps generational? And he goes, I've had patients that we've prayed over. And when we run out of Advil and things like that, I wonder how much of this could be spiritual affliction. And doctors owe it to their patients to consider every opportunity. Would you guys concur with that? Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. In fact, when I was doing my dissertation from a PhD, it was one of the things I focused on,

How would a mental health professional be able to discern the spiritual element that's present in an individual that they're dealing with, all right? And so I had a whole series of criteria that one would follow in terms of looking beyond the merely physical manifestations and looking at the possible larger issues that might be present. But another thing I want to throw in here just what I'm thinking about it. One of the problems that we're encountering is the fact that we're having masons who are showing up, them at like KFC meetings and things like that trying to convince Catholic men that they could join the masons, that it would be okay that the church says it's all right for them. So there's this real deception that's involved in it. And unfortunately, some of our guys are up on the latest issues from the Vatican, and they think it's perfectly okay to join the masons for career advancement

and so forth. And so they think they can be members of the Knights of Columbus and the masons at the same time and don't realize the trouble that we're getting themselves into. So there, it seems to almost be a concerted effort to recruit Catholic men into the Masons without they're realizing the full truth of what's going on. I want to get y'all's reactions on this. Father Dan, start with you. Interestingly, we look back at American history, and there is Freemasonry, like, all over the place.

You know, President of Washington obviously served as president of the Masonic Lodge in Virginia while being president of the United States. I know a lot of this is sort of out there conjecture, but when we look at the dollar bill, etc. And you see just Masonic symbolism in a lot of American stuff. Do you think there is any dynamic of our founding fathers and leaders who are all involved in masonry having any sort of spiritual effects on our country today? Or is that a big stretch? I don't know. I mean, anything's possible, right? And if everybody was a mason and they were all up to their neck in the 33rd degree, it would seem like they would be a problem. And yet the country seems to have been blessed,

abundantly and survive, even breaking away from the British, if you look at it on paper, there's no way that should have ever happened, given the size of the two armies. And then there's also stories of George Washington. People believe that he had an apparition of Our Lady at some point, that she was telling him about the future of the country. So I don't know, but I would say the country's done really well to a point. I would say today is one of the worst periods I think we've been in. I mean, certainly the Civil War was no picnic, but there's a country.

He was trying to bring about a good. Right now, I think today we're living in a very, very dark and sinful time and potentially could be the worst time ever. Because there's so many people leaving God altogether. And when Jesus said, if you're not with me, you're against me. So just look at this huge mass of people. The fastest growing contingent in religion are the nuns. The people identify as no religion.

And that's dangerous because they're open to anything. I don't know about the Founding Fathers, though. But they seem to incorporate religion into a lot of those documents. But I think, too, remember, the devil takes the long-range view, right? It just doesn't see what was happening at this given point. He might make something happen that appears to be very good, but he can see down the line the ultimate effects of those are going to have. And so I think sometimes we have to be careful about that, too,

that seeds may have been planted that took a very long time to reach germination and fulfillment. So I think there may be something to that, you know. I was surprised when Father Martin shared that we have the oaths and the pledges. My understanding was masonry is very secretive, but was there a time when it became like blown wide open, et cetera, or has the Catholic Church always been like, hey, this is totally bad? For a super secret society, it's like you can look up online and see all their oaths. I guess the question is, how do we know what we know? Does the church have resources on this, or is it just over time these things got leaked?

Yes. In fact, in the past was far, far more opposed to masonry than it seems to be taken stance on it today. Well, there are several encyclicals against it. It was taken very, very seriously in past times, yes. You know, just recently, though, we did have a Vatican official trying to dialogue and somehow embrace the mason. So there's always, you know, if they have infiltrated the church, it makes sense that it's going to be harder to get rid of them. I think what you just said, Father, is exactly correct. Rumors have swelled that even in the College of Cardinals, there are certain individuals who are actually Masons. I think that that's not beyond possibility.

So that may be part of the reason where there's so much confusion and doubt in the church today. It's all part of this demonic master plan to bring down the church. And also, at the high level, you must be brought in, but do you all empathize that someone who is not really thinking about it? When they read something like, you know, we pledge to Almighty, Like, it sounds just Christian enough, right? Some of these readings, and that's what makes it so tough, right?

Yeah. Remember again what Pope Paul was 6th said the way back when. The smoke of Satan has infiltrated even into the church. He was aware that those demonic elements were already because of the church itself. Do either one of you have masonry in your line, or were you all cleared and TSA pre-checked? No masonry?

No masonry, but I did the prayers anyway. My family always people like they were immigrants from Eastern Europe and not big on that sort of thing. So, you know, I think we're safe there. I want to end on a hopeful note here because obviously we have a lot of emails that come in when they hear our stories. And this is the toughest part I have with making the XIxious files is I don't want people to think that every ailment or problem in their life is a result of some grand relative of theirs who dedicated them to demons. And I get this question probably almost as much. much as anything else. So Father Dan, we'll start with you. Could you just give a grounding message on not being afraid of this stuff like it's a reality, but you don't need to panic that every

problem in your life is a result of some occult curse in your background? Well, what you need to know is if you're afflicted by something that came through a Masonic relative, what is actually happening is you're having the effects of the sin passed on to you, but not the guilt. So you're not culpable. You're not in jeopardy of going to hell. You're strictly being kind of penalized in some way physically. So like every other cross, you pick it up, you united to Jesus' cross, you ask him to go order it to grace and go save souls with it. And you can do that.

And it might be the greatest thing you did with your life is to take your sufferings and unite him to the cross to save souls. And in the process, say, Lord, the minute you don't need this, please take it away. And he will. And that's the way to live your life. Let nothing be a barrier to God's grace and to his presence in your life. No, Father Dan, do you think there's a world where he allows this dynamic to persist because perhaps someone is not even seeking God and they are afflicted and then they find out that Jesus is the way

to break it? They get healed and suddenly their life is on track. These generational curses can be used as wake-up calls in people's lives. And also for your sanctification and a sanctification of others. You know, the cross was the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the world. And yet it's also the greatest gift that ever happened for mankind. So never forget that. Amen. Father Zeta, any final words, spirit of sound mind? Yeah, just completely affirming what Father Dan just said, but there's something I always tell people, too, whenever they're dealing with these demonic forces.

By the ever said to never fear the devil, all right? Respect him, but never be afraid of them, right? And that's important because he feeds on our fears. So yes, we stay close to the Lord, we respect the devil, but we try to grow closer and closer by the grace of God into eternal life. That's what it's about. All right, listeners, well, now you know, if you want to join a country club, for example, and they take you to a temple, have skulls and strange oaths beyond the $200,000 initiation fee,

you should probably run like the wind. We've received emails from people about Freemasonry who argue that it's not incompatible with their faith. Father wants to be very clear on this. He is not saying that all who joined Freemasonry did so with full knowledge of the self-cursing implications. There are many great people who simply are unaware of the dynamics at play. but the devil doesn't care. As the scripture says, my people perish for lack of knowledge.

So, like a good NBC commercial, the more you know, bum bum bum, bum. This is also not a warning message that every digestive issue that you have is related to your great-grandparents' involvement with the fraternal order. Not at all.

That's most likely acid reflux. But again, run the calculus. If you pray and renounce curses and nothing happens, bummer, move on. go get help. But if you pray, break curses, and suddenly find your healed, we'll praise God. No downside. Win, win, win. Thanks again for listening, folks. We'll see you next week. Okay, if you haven't signed up for The Vault, you're missing out. To get exclusive access to our

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