The Extras - Restoring a Cinematic Legacy: Tom and Jerry The Complete CinemaScope Collection Blu-ray
Episode Date: February 18, 2025Send us a textJoin animation historian Jerry Beck and George Feltenstein from the Warner Archive as they unfold the rich tapestry behind the Tom and Jerry CinemaScope Collection. Discover the revoluti...onary role of CinemaScope in the 1950s and how it breathed life into MGM studios amidst turbulent times. We promise you'll gain an understanding of how these iconic cartoons were meticulously restored, leveraging modern technology while preserving their original charm. Celebrate the 85th anniversary of Tom and Jerry by traversing their cinematic universe. Relish fan-favorite episodes like "Pet Peeve," "Touche, Pussycat," and "The Flying Sorceress," and appreciate their timeless appeal and artistic brilliance. Whether you're an animation aficionado or a nostalgic fan, prepare for an enlightening journey that cherishes the legacy of these beloved characters. Purchase: TOM AND JERRY: The Complete CinemaScope Collection (1954-1958) BLU-RAY The Extras Facebook pageThe Extras Twitter Warner Archive & Warner Bros Catalog GroupOtaku Media produces podcasts, behind-the-scenes extras, and media that connect creatives with their fans and businesses with their consumers. Contact us today to see how we can work together to achieve your goals. www.otakumedia.tv
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Hi, I'm Tom Weaver, author of Universal Horrors, a monster movie audio commentator, and member
of the Tim Millard fan club.
You're listening to the Extras.
Hi, Tim Millard here, host of the Extras podcast.
And today we continue our animation discussion with historian Jerry Beck and George Feltonstein
from the Warner Archive.
And today we're going to be talking about the Tom and Jerry CinemaScope collection.
That includes 23 cartoons that were released between 1954 and 1958, plus three bonus cartoons.
I think you really enjoyed this discussion. There's a lot of good background information
on this release. And then we talk about some of the specific titles on the release that we all enjoyed. Well, we have one more
release we're going to talk about, guys. And I know a lot of fans have been anxiously waiting
to hear our take on this one. It comes out on February 11th. So we're recording this before
the 11th. But this is the highly anticipated Tom and Jerry,
the Complete CinemaScope Collection, 1954 to 58.
I watched all of these cartoons and this is a fantastic collection.
I mean, no surprise to people, of course, but how did this come about, George?
I can't exactly say when I had the idea.
It literally came to me
and I thought, hey,
this would be really cool because
it takes advantage.
The fact that everybody has wide
screen televisions now
and people in animation
land really want to
keep that full
frame open matte aspect ratio for the cartoons, even those that
were made to be projected at 185 in theaters. They don't want widescreen cartoons, but cinema
scope cartoons were specifically drawn that way. And going back to Jerry and my adventures in Laserdisc land,
we steamrolled through the first letterbox transfers
of the cinemascope cartoons for Laserdisc.
And now lo these many years later, we have a Blu-ray.
What we were able to do is, most of these were mastered,
I would say, probably in the last 10 or 12 years. But we put a sizable budget together
to clean up any film damage, not to change. There's no DNR, there's nothing that gets in the way of the animation.
But we cleaned up film damage and we also did some additional color correction because
some of the colors were not right.
And so we took these, what I call recent masters and made them look as good as new, I think,
to be able to put them all together with a nice bit rate on one Blu-ray disc and
add the three cartoons that Hannah and
Barbera made that weren't Tom and Jerry cartoons,
was the icing on the cake.
I believe that was Jerry's idea when we talked about it.
Well, I think it was a thing we definitely should have done.
And we did.
I like to be as complete and thorough whenever
we're talking about these things,
concocting these ideas as we can be.
I figure anybody buying it may want
to see that additional thing.
Anyway, yeah, these are
fantastic. Cinemascope, we should talk about that. That was a revolution in the 1950s.
I actually believe this is not based on any research or anything. It's just me. I'm just
thinking. I actually believe Cinemascope and these cartoons in particular kept that studio alive for a few more years.
The MGM closed the studio, I believe in 1956.
57.
Yeah, in 57.
Well, they released them into at least 57.
58?
Yeah.
Now Watches was released in 58.
That was the last.
And keep in mind that the first Rough and Ready was on TV in 58. That was the last. And keep in mind that the first, uh, rough and ready was on TV in 57. So they, they were,
they were, the story goes that they were given what I call a soft layoff. They were told
they were going to close the studio. I think in, uh, I'm going to say 55 or 56. I forgot
which year, sorry. And they were, they were given a year to wind things down, to do the last season of cartoons.
And you've got your office there for 12 more months.
You'll finish the cartoons, you'll do this post-production, and you can use our telephones.
That was the impression I got. So it was all hunky-dory and nice, and that was the end of Tom and Jerry for the time being.
And, of course, Hanna-Barbera had to figure out what they were going to do next, and we
all know that story.
But I think that MGM might have closed earlier.
Disney closed down its shorts units in the early 50s.
They still made shorts, but it was one or two a year,
that kind of thing.
And I think because of scope,
and because there was a need for scope product
for the theaters, this was the reason
to keep making the cartoons.
It's an interesting period as well,
because in animation history, the very beginning of
these Scope cartoons, as one sees if they watch it, I'm sure you noticed this, Tim,
it starts off in the classic, what I call full spectrum background artwork, and it's
just as lavish as any of the primo 1940s cartoons, but as they go along in this set, they start to pick up that UPA
artistic sensibility where it's a little more abstract, you know what I'm saying?
And the characters themselves even begin to, you know, are modified in their design as
well as they, this is what the mode was, the zeitgeist of animation in that mid-50s period.
That's what represented new was that look.
They wanted to be new.
They wanted to be different.
CinemaScope was part of that because they were, of course, fighting television.
Television was the big scourge, the big enemy of the movies.
If you were coming to see a movie, you were going to see an entertainment you could not
see on TV and to see a widescreen,
fully animated Tom and Jerry cartoon. I mean, that was just a perfect weapon in the arsenal
of MGM in particular against that thing. These are just great cartoons because there's scope
there, what I call eye filling. The thing I tell
my students when I talk about this, where I teach at CalArts, is that CinemaScope back
then, and George, tell me otherwise. CinemaScope back then was like IMAX today. It was usually
on really large screens, peripheral vision. I mean, they really designed live action and animation
for the scoped screen.
It wasn't just here's the cartoon and some extra material
on the left and right.
It was a very designed for wide screen.
As many live action movies of that time
were that way as well.
You are 100% correct as usual.
And the thing is that the cinemascope technology was basically developed under the aegis of
20th century Fox using a system of an anamorphic lens that squeezed the image onto a traditional
frame and then the projector would spread it out.
And the early lenses were not that great, which caused some focal problems very
early on. But they continued to perfect it and perfect it and the Cinemascope
was marketed by Fox as the miracle you see without glasses.
Because of course it was preceded by the very brief tenure of 3D and its fad in the movie
industry.
People didn't like the glasses and they didn't like a lot of things about 3D.
But when Fox premiered The Robe, which was not the first cinemascope movie filmed, but
it was the first released, it was just an enormous sea change for the industry.
And MGM signed a licensing deal with Fox for the technology right away and Warner Brothers eventually followed suit as did on occasion Columbia and Universal.
Paramount developed VistaVision,
which we've talked about in other podcasts
and that did not use a lens that distorted the image,
but rather gave you greater depth of field.
But everything was about the widescreen
to bring people into
the movie theaters.
It's interesting in terms of the timing Jerry mentions because 1956 was the year that most
of classic animation hit television in a big way.
The number one syndicated television cartoon series were the Popeye cartoons, number one.
And then the pre-48 Warner Brothers cartoons, which had just been sold off, they were very,
very popular.
And the Terry Toons that CBS had bought, that Terry Toons Animation Studio, all these different
cartoon series were hitting
television, but not Tom and Jerry. No. MGM did not put Tom and Jerry on television until 1965,
Saturday mornings at CBS. Tom and Jerry were so popular as they still are today,
more popular internationally than in the United States. Tremendously popular here,
but unbelievably popular overseas
because for all intents and purposes, they did not talk.
Right.
So there was the universal humor of the visuals
and the audio gags that made them so fresh.
And CinemaScope added a great deal of dimension, no pun intended.
The problem with these cartoons is that when they went on television, they would be panned
and scanned.
Sometimes radically, when a 4x3 television was the thing, or even today where you've got broadcasters showing a 178
pan and scan of the Scope cartoons. It is true that the first four Tom and Jerry Scope cartoons
were also made in flat versions. They were made twice.
Just like MGM made features two ways,
like Brigadoon, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers,
the student prints, they were shot twice,
once for Cinemascope and once for what was called widescreen,
a 1.75 aspect ratio that matted the top and the bottom.
They were really tossing the dice on what would
last. Cinemascope proved its viability and that it wasn't going to go away, so MGM didn't feel the
need to make two different versions of their features or cartoons anymore. And in the meantime, it really, like when Jerry and I did the laser discs years ago,
creating letterbox masters of these cartoons was unheard of, you know,
because people were still having their 4x3 TVs.
But we wanted people to see them the right way.
I also want to clear up a little bit of a point of confusion
because the early aspect ratio for a cinemascope was 2.55
in order to make room for the magnetic stripe
for the stereophonic sound.
And 20th Century Fox insisted that if you wanted
cinemascope, you had to have stereophonic sound.
The early cartoons, the negatives,
I had them checked specifically.
The camera negatives are two, three, five, not two, five, five,
which is kind of weird because the industry,
Fox relented on the aspect ratio and agreed
to two, three, five and optical versions like a year later.
So how the cartoons ended up being two, three, five before like Fox had blessed it is a little
bit of a strange anomaly and we don't have documentation that
explains that. All I can do is tell you that our people brought in the camera negatives and looked
at them very recently so that I would be able to speak with truth to what the proper aspect ratios of these cartoons are supposed to be. And
they are 2, 3, 5, and there really is no explanation as to why there's that
dichotomy. Maybe someday I'll find a memo in the files that will explain it. But
I'm very pleased with the way these turned out there. It's a beautiful, very and and I just hope people will really really enjoy it. And a lot of times we're you
know kind of against the gun trying to make our dates and trying to get the
screening copies out. This was one case where we really had a long lead time so
that reviewers have their copies and as we record this we're still a week before
street date. So that's really the ideal situation.
That's what I'm used to.
And I'm hoping we can get back to that again.
This gives me an opportunity also to take a moment to acknowledge that
things around here got a little hot.
I'm not trying to be funny about it.
The fires literally put our studio to a stop for two weeks.
People were working remotely
and many of my colleagues lost their homes.
Many more of my colleagues had to evacuate,
including Jerry.
And I was in an area that is known to be a fire zone. So even
though we were not directly affected, there was always that fear that a match
could strike or somebody threw out a cigarette button. God knows what would
happen. We're coming out of this tragedy for this area, but it created a lot of, it basically brought
us to a standstill.
Certain people were able to get here and do their work, but a lot of people weren't.
And a lot of people needed to stay home in case they had to evacuate their families and
their pets. And so until it was safe, we lost some very
important work time. So if things get delayed or not happening as they should be, specifically
our new release announcements, which I'm hoping by the time this podcast goes live, we'll
have some new release announcements to share with everyone.
But it's just a very heartfelt request to everyone to understand the circumstances under
which we were operating.
And we are in the pink to be back on track as soon as possible.
Just to get back to the Tom and Jerry release, George, there were a couple of things
I didn't wanted to add to the topic.
One, Jerry, you mentioned the IMAX element of,
it was the IMAX of its day maybe,
or something along those lines.
I thought that was an important point I wanted to mention
because if you're a younger person
and you aren't sure about these, keep that in mind.
This is a different experience when you put this Blu-ray in and you see it on your wide
screen.
It feels more modern just simply for that fact.
It feels like, wow, this is a fantastic experience
of watching classic cartoons full screen like that. And I thought that was a key point that
we needed to put out there for fans who maybe are not as familiar with these cartoons. And so they're beautiful, they sound great, and they're a lot of fun.
I had a few that I thought were really worth going into to talk about a little bit more
that I thought maybe we could just point to for a few examples of how fantastic these
are. I'd like to get your guys' take on them, but you start right off with Pet Peeve.
And that's just a fantastic way to start.
But is it just because it was the first one
that was released, George?
Jerry?
Yeah, it's as simple as that.
They're in the order they were released in.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's from the get-go.
It just starts off so much fun.
And then immediately you go into the second one and you've got to shape
pussycat, which is an Oscar nominee, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a, yeah, that's something them trying something new.
Um, I believe it was even a sequel to a previous cartoon where they just tried
to put Tom and Jerry in different locations and things like that.
This one being in old France, lends itself visually to the cinemascope and widescreen.
I think they had a lot of fun with that in particular.
Well, you were talking about the international appeal and this one basically, the whole thing's
in French. You know, even this spoken language elements of it. So that makes it feel really international
in that sense. And then you have another one there, Tom and Cherie, which am I right that
that was the first kind of exclusive cinemascope really? There was no, there wasn't a flat version made.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that would be the first one that that's, yeah, but they weren't thinking about it like
that.
They were, they made them in scope and, and, you know, they just offered not every theater
could play that.
Not every theater could expand and put in that screen.
If you were a neighborhood theater that had 400 seats,
your 185 is about as wide as you can get. CinemaScope was really special back then. It was really
first-run theaters and the old vaudeville houses and things like that. That was an attempt to
villhouses and things like that. So that was an attempt to offer it to the neighbors, the neighborhood theaters. I think by the time they got into that next year, more and more theaters
were running scope and they figured out other... You didn't mention in between there, you didn't
mention Southbound Duckling, which I'm only mentioning because it's right after Two-Shaped
Buzika. I always like to point that one out as one of the few cartoons where Tom wins at the end. He seemingly
captures, we don't know what happens, but we see him capturing Jerry and the little
Duckling in that one. I find that to be something to point out to those who say, it's like people are always
asking about the Road Runner.
Does the coyote ever catch?
Well, not really, but here's a rare case where he actually is getting them.
Well, I also really enjoyed the Flying Sorceress.
I'm hoping you're going to mention that one.
Yeah, with June.
June Frey.
Yeah, June Frey is the voice.
And it really uses the scope screen in that one
more than even others in my opinion, because she's flying all over the screen. I mean,
I've actually seen that one in a theater. In fact, we ran that one when we did a tribute
to June after she passed away. We purposely ran that one because it's her doing that
classic witch hazel voice, but also the fact that the character
is just all over the place on that big screen. It really looks cool.
Yeah. And then I really, really enjoyed Blue Cat Blues.
Oh yeah. Tom is a very different kind of cartoon.
Yeah. Tom is the lovesick cat and Jerry is trying to help him. I mean, instead of the chase, you know,
it just changes it up there.
I thought that one was fantastic.
It added a whole other dimension to their relationship,
which I think was very smart of them.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is a lot of people
stereotype Tom and Jerry cartoons.
Oh yeah, the cat chases the mouse.
And that's really, a lot of people think
that's every single cartoon.
There is one cartoon early, early on called Kitty Foil
that is literally them chasing each other for seven minutes.
That's it.
But every other one has some unique angle to it.
Usually a story and sometimes the stories
are bigger than that, whether it's Mouse in Manhattan
or, you know, all of them have some unique take on them. And that's what I think also
especially makes a collection of them work. They didn't design them for being in a collection,
but they really do work that way.
Yeah. And maybe a little bit more in the traditional, you know, Tom chasing Jerry is mucho mouse,
but I really enjoyed that one.
Jerry is el magnifico.
It's the Spanish one.
Yeah, Tom is this world champ that is brought in to capture.
That was really fun because it's the whole Spanish element of it too.
That one has particularly good backgrounds in it.
They have very, it's showing off the countryside.
It's almost like they sent the designer to Spain
to take portraits and things.
It's a very beautiful looking film.
Did you guys have any other favorites
that you wanted to point out?
Oh gosh, I'm a guy who just likes everything.
I'm interested in, I love those later ones.
I don't even think the series ever went really downhill.
There was no jumping the shark here.
The later, later ones have the more stylized design, but they're beautiful.
They're handsome.
They look wonderful.
And that design was then adopted into their TV cartoons like Uncle Barry Hound and Yogi
Bear, the earlier ones.
But you don't get the same feel from the TV.
You're really the characters are front and center, they're close up, it's all dialogue.
These later ones here in scope, we get a moment to look at this beautiful landscape,
these beautiful places that they are.
And even when they're stylized, they're smart.
I call it smart stylized.
It's like modern art.
It looks great.
Yeah.
How about you, George?
I'm with Jerry.
I mean, I, you know, it's like,
which of your children do you love the most?
They all are there to be treasured because they represent a time and a place that we'll
never see again, just like with live action features.
MGM was MGM and their cartoon department was just like the rest of their studio is awesome.
And, you know, we've talked endlessly about tech savory and we'll continue to do so. And what Bill
and Joe did with Tom and Jerry at the same time, these cartoons last forever. And they're really
to be admired and adored and have a place on your shelf that you can watch whenever you want.
Won't let me disappear one day.
And your three bonus cartoons, I thought,
were just fantastic.
And the Good Will to Men, speaking of lasting forever,
and I mean, it's a theme that is timeless.
Well, Good Will to Men, as animation fans know, is actually a remake of the 1939 cartoon
Peace on Earth, which was done by Hugh Harmon on the precipice of World War II.
Bill and Joe updated it, reanimated it, and brought in the whole threat of nuclear catastrophe,
which makes it all the more chilling and frightening.
Especially many years later, it's still as powerful as ever.
Yeah.
Well, it's a fantastic collection.
I want to thank you two for pulling this together for the fans.
And I've started to see some of the reviews and they're coming in and they're all saying
the same thing of how fantastic these look. And maybe like, wow, this seems so obvious.
Why didn't we do it earlier? But it's like when you get those releases, it means that it's like touching a cord with people like, yes, this is a really
good one and one that people I think really are going to want to add to their collection because
there it is. It's so packaged so well in one disc at a great price, as you mentioned, George. So,
I think fans are going to really, really enjoy this. Well, guys, that was a lot of animation to talk about.
Yeah.
It's just a beginning.
Well worth it.
Yeah, but it's just the beginning of the year.
So I know there's a lot more.
You've mentioned, George, that's still coming this year.
You mentioned last year that you two
are working on more Looney Tunes that the fans have
to look forward to.
And I know that probably won't be too long
before we'll hopefully have a chance
to talk with you guys about that.
So listeners out there, pick up these Blu-rays
because you need to prepare yourself
for the Blu-rays you're gonna be picking up
in another month or two as well.
And just enjoy these.
They are fantastic. So thanks guys.
Well thank you Tim. It's a pleasure to be with you as always and to be able to talk to the folks
about what we're cooking up. Yes.
Well I hope you enjoyed that discussion with Jerry Beck and George Feltenstein.
I always enjoy when they're on.
I learned so much about animation history and all the work that went into the restoration
of these terrific cartoons, these terrific short films that were made for adults and
have been enjoyed for so long.
And this is the 85th anniversary of Tom and Jerry.
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