The F Plus - 11: A Feeling of Kinship

Episode Date: December 19, 2009

Otherkin is a word used to describe a group of people who believe that, in addition to being human, they also have the soul of some other creature, which is typically a dragon, a werewolf, or some other fictitious beast. For some reason, nobody ever believes they have the soul of a three-toed sloth inside of them, even though that seems the most appropriate.

Welcome to the F Plus Podcast. My name is John, and thank you for listening. I'm here alone again. It seems that Lemon didn't show up. I wasn't able to raise him, and I wasn't able to raise anyone else on Skype either. So I'm basically running the show on my own. Now, I figured this might happen again. So what I thought I'd do is I've been running the show on my own. Now, I figured this might happen again, so what I thought I'd do is, I've been

working really hard on this article. I've been working on it all week since I just finished finals. Writing every day, editing every day. It's an article I wrote called Video Games as Art, an Exploration of the Super Mario Bros. Franchise. And I think it's well written, so it might not fit for the podcast, but hey, we've got time, I want to make sure

we get an episode out, so working real good on this, I hope you all enjoy it, so it might not fit for the podcast, but hey, we've got time. I want to make sure we get an episode out. So working real good on this. I hope you all enjoy it. So I'll start right now. Okay. The Super Mario Brothers franchise is usually thought to be – Okay, I'm here. Hey, what's up, John? Oh, hey, Lemon.

You're here. Yeah, I'm here. I got stuff to do. It's, you know, Burma and everything like that. So I was thinking somewhere back from the train and I realized Otherkin. That's funny, right? Yeah, yeah. That's real funny.

Yeah. I was thinking, like, you know, there's this whole group of people like these Otherkin who are like they're humans, but they have this idea that that like there's a there's another part to themselves that are like mystical, you know, dragons and shit. Yeah, I've heard of that. And that, so, uh, so that's pretty strong. I think it's a little over going with, I'm going to go ahead and call the readers and, uh, let's just get that going. Oh, okay. Sure. All right. You don't have anything else planned, right? No, no, not, not at all.

Okay. Okay. Fantastic. All right, then here we go. Our readers tonight are Acer Akawadal. I was every god. Portex. I was a scarab dung beetle. Boots Reingear. I was a gelatinab dung beetle. Boots rain gear. I was a gelatinous cube. John?

My sole creature is an elven version of Charlie Chaplin. Easy conspiracy. Fuck you, I'm a displacer beast. Come quads up. I'm the Doom Marine wearing a kilt. Stog. My other kin is Charlie Brooker. Squiddy McConway.

I'm Spaghetti. I like Spaghetti. I'm gonna eat you. Go for the obvious squid one. I'm going to eat you. Go for the obvious squid one. And Lemon, who was once a cardboard box. That's deep. That's deep, man. That's deep.

All right. So moving on here to otherkin dating, which is a forum that's set up ostensibly for dating, but doesn't contain actual dating. Like a couple of people try and it doesn't seem to work out. Like, are there any wolves in San Francisco? And then nobody responds. So instead, it's people like introducing themselves and telling their life story and their other kind of awakening. And the first one that I clicked on is the one that I'm linking here, which is the first two sentences made me laugh harder than anything in the last month. So yeah, so there's an original post and then there is, you know, obviously

responses Okay Hello, I've been having identity issues lately and I am not sure what to do My human name is Young Han, but for the last several weeks I've been identifying more and more with the character Mork from Mork and Mindy.

Don't be orange. Yeah? Oh my god, knowing it was coming and it was still funny. Nanu, nanu. Nanu, nanu. He should have left a space for laughter. Laughter goes here. I asked a friend about this,

and he said that Otherkin had similar beliefs, that they were people who believed they were characters commonly accepted as fictional that had been reincarnated in human form. I am not entirely familiar with what it means to be an Otherkin, and thus would appreciate any help or information. Obviously, I don't believe I am a fictional character. Instead,

I think that maybe before my Mork soul was born... No! No! Morkkin. My brain... The words came out of my mouth, but my brain has refused to process that as a sentence. My brain. The words came out of my mouth, but my brain

has refused to process that as a sentence. God. Soul. Okay. Instead, I think that maybe before my Mork soul was born, it would float in the ether and that maybe at some point,

Robin Williams subconsciously channeled it, making the character famous without realizing that I, slash Mark, actually existed. Oh! Fuck. Oh, God bless you!

This is the best thing ever. So is this the group for me? Do I have the right idea, or do I have to keep looking? Please reply. I'm very open-minded and willing to make friends. My name's Nightwolf. Well, I can say this is the first I've heard of anything like your situation. So far as I know, in the two years since being otherkin, the definition has basically been the belief that an integral part of the spirit is non-human in nature.

I don't know where your friend heard of their definition, but it'd be worth looking into. I don't believe that I'm a fictional character. Nor do I believe I made this up. It's hard to make up memories, no matter how hard you try. That sure is.

Sure is. By the way, as an actual fun fact or life note, it is actually very easy to make up memories. Yes, it is. No! No, because otherwise this guy would imagine something more crazy instead of the fact that his soul is actually more...

I wonder if anyone else has the internal soul of Mirth from Earth. I think my soul is Gidget. I myself believe that in a past life, I was once a tiger, a wolf, and a panther. Ty Wolf?

Wait, in a single life? Not at the same time. Not at the same time, mind you. And each are separate. I've spent many a night pondering this, and it boggles the mind, as I tend to base my life on pure logic. This just gets better.

I also believe I am a wolf, tiger, and panther. Separate and yet the same. And I have a separate existence and memory as a human. It's complicated. You know, it's like the Trinity, you know. I chose all the cool predators because I didn't want to be

like a ferret or a lemming or an earthworm. The fact that she's enunciating it like she's talking to a kindergarten class is just making me laugh a lot. Today we're going to talk about my panther form. Still, I'm not the expert, but I don't think you'll find an answer in other kin, as most tend to be hunters, mythical and non-mythical creatures, wizards and so on.

Wizards. It sounds crazy, we all know, but it's hard to tell yourself it's not true, what you've never convinced it to believe. Can you read that sentence one more time? Oh. I've got a car in the background. Sounds crazy, we all know, but it's hard to tell yourself it's not true,

what you've never convinced it to believe. Hope that helped a little. You know, this really reminds me of how when they do past life readings, people are always like Cleopatra. Right. They're never some farmer who

died of the measles in a past life. I had a past life reading once and I really was some farmer who died of the measles in a past life. I had a past life reading once, and I really was some farmer. Seriously. Never mind, man. It's all a joke. You're just boring. You were farmer Cleopatra. Farmer to Cleopatra.

Farmer Joan of Arc. Well, people have linked aliens and fairies together in recent years. What? This is a science. Saying one may actually just be the other. Perhaps that's what the Morkme is. What?

Morkme. Morkme. Morkme. Morkme. Morkme all night, baby. Morkme. Mork me. Mork me.

Mork me. Mork me all night, baby. Mork me. A fairy that was... Sorry, perhaps that's what the Mork me is. The fork me. A fairy that was interpreted as an alien when someone else channeled him slash me briefly. So he's Tingle who thinks he's Mork?

Who thinks he's a fairy? No, he was the perfectly rational thing of a fairy, but then some idiot didn't know what a fucking fairy was, and they mistook him for an alien. I would have liked to see Mork and Mindy as Mork as a fairy. I think that would have been great.

I'm going to say this. Tingle is way more dignified than anyone on this show. I'm going back to my home planet! He's too hairy. Way too hairy to be. He's a hairy fairy. He was cast out of fairy society for being hairy. Yeah, that's called a bear. He's generating all the power.

Okay, that for sure I can say definitely not true. No. Fairies and what most consider aliens are not the same. Lecturing him. Yes. The Fae are entirely different kin as our elves. Aliens are not in the same context as most people think of it as. Most often kin do not have, do, um, blah. Most often kin do

have past lives of an entire different planet, but there is also the astral realm. Of course. I'm doing a succinct version of this explanation. So you may want to look more into it. Perhaps if you could do a bit more explaining of your experience, I might see something that might help you. Now, other kin do have some who are gods reincarnated, so maybe that's what your friend meant. They may have existed, and we just don't know. And I haven't talked personally to a god reincarnated kin.

But yeah, it may be a similar thing. Robin Williams is a god. That's what I'm getting at. Oh, that's so terrific. What were you? I was a dragon. I was all powerful. What were you?

I was a god. You know what? I was a god. Hey, I was three gods. Fuck you guys. I was three gods all at once. When someone asks you if you are Mork, you say yes.

Let's see. Here we go. We can enter as super vampire. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is this nonsense? I think I have you guys figured out, and then you pull stuff about this guy thinking he's Mork from Mork and Mindy?

Really? Come on, dude. That's even weirder than thinking you're an elf or a wolf. There is no such thing as Mork, dude. Mork is a character played by Robin Williams whose dialogue and entire personality were decided upon in a Hollywood studio. Just because you're somewhat like the character isn't anything special. TV characters often model after real personality traits,

although they are, especially in comedy, and especially with Robin Williams, exaggerated for effect. Because people like to watch people on TV that have the same traits as themselves, but not too similar, as that would be boring because the point of TV is to get away from real life. There is no spirit of Mork flying around in the ether. You just coincidentally have the same traits. You're looking way too into it.

I mean, I like eating pizza, partying, and to a lesser extent, fighting, but that doesn't mean I'm a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. No. Yes! Of course it does. partying and to a lesser extent fighting, but that doesn't mean I'm a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle? No. Yes. Of course it does. It does. Does that mean my soul is the soul of the Ninja Turtles somehow crossed paths or some other

nonsense? No. Nothing more. My soul isn't a Ninja Turtle? I'm going to need some time alone. Super Vampire is in denial. Totally a fucking turtle. She's another kid who has a vampire spirit inside of her body.

But fucking Mork, what's that to his profit? Ninja Turtle? I don't think so. Clearly I'm a vampire. Well, you have pissed off Nightwolf. We're going to rumble. Weird is essentially only a state of mind Some Americans believe it's weird

To eat bugs like they do in eastern countries In eastern countries And most of the people from eastern countries Believe it's weird Americans sometimes eat snails What? What are you talking about? Americans eat snails?

Yeah you know, it's... The French who are east of America are really freaked out that Americans are eating snails. No, no, they believe that in Eastland. Eastern countries, you know that part of the math that's just labeled Eastern countries? Easter Island, I think. It's all about perspective, but if you must, I suppose, compared to what everyone else wants to believe, it's normal. It is weird if you believe you're

a wolf or whatnot. Now, I'm not taking sides, but he never said he was Mork. He asked, didn't really state, that he felt his spirit resembled the one created by Robin Williams. The creator. The one created by Robin Williams. The creator.

The one created by Robin Williams. Oh, yes, this universe is fabulous, wonderful. Oh, and the Black Lady is so happy with this universe. And I declare you shall switch from three racist voices within two minutes.

The Tonight Show with God. If you describe the god Zeus or Hercules, it will be the personality traits, honor, justice, a little humor, strength, and strength of so many normal people in the world. So if someone believes they have a spirit

resembling Zeus's or Hercules, it doesn't mean they believe they are them. He also didn't say he believed that it was floating in the ether world, as you call it. He did. He did say that. Excuse me. I'm disappointed with your reading comprehension. That's exactly what I said.

But someone suggested it to him. Overall, he was guided off course and given some false info. Oh no. It does not include all otherkin and there is no figuring us out. We just are. You exist. You exist a lot. You need to be like a motivational speaker for otherkin.

I think you'd be really good at it. Yay! As for this man, he's confused on what he feels. I don't even know if you're kin, but you should know most of how we Otherkin come to be. It's a very confusing thing, and sometimes memories are set off by things like characters. The Mork character could possibly be a trigger of a memory.

Or maybe Gnaw's fifth multiple personality and he's losing his mind. Whoa. Either this is a magical, beautiful thing or he's just flat out nuts. That took a pretty dark turn, actually. Only he will know in the end. He's just asking for a bit of direction, and it seems you don't really understand Otherkin, because, Imo, it seems like you're constantly doubting our beliefs.

Only he'll know in the end. On the other hand, the state might have an opinion. I guess super vampire is like the dissenter of the community. I get the feeling this isn't the first time Nightwolf has scolded his horrible behavior. Don't be so all-inclusive because also, he never claimed

to be otherkin, but was only guided here on a guess. That's not what that word means. It means the opposite of what you think. Maybe in the wolf realm it means something other. Don't be so accepting, asshole. I won the other kid lottery. Wow, way to be tolerant.

Who? If any of that was repetitive or didn't make sense, just say so, and I'll try my best to reword or explain it a little better. She's a teacher. I get the feeling that Nano Nano is yanking your chains. Shrugs. Possibly, but in the end, he can never say otherkin are hostile to outsiders. Smiley.

Probably. I can't imagine anyone being that warped. Although, looks around. Shocking, huh, Count Chocula? That's a vampire diss, I think. Count Chocula is the most awesome vampire

ever. Seriously, think how ridiculously advanced a vampire would be to have to derive nutrition from chocolate. He could pull Dracula ten ways from Sunday with one hand and do it all with a cheesy smile. Personally, I think Robin Williams is a comic genius.

Is it Dead Poets Society and Patch Adams? Nuff said. Nuff said. Nano, Nano, if everyone else here hasn't scared you off yet, I'm curious how you identify with Mork from Mork and Mindy. I'm not overly

familiar with the show, and am quite curious. Coray underscore Coray. Hope things go well for you, and be well. Coray underscore caray you may be what is referred to as media kin

or being media kin think uh citrus is about to die. In a tragic F-plus accident. Fuck you, tragic. I'm dying. Media-kin. Media-kin are individuals who identify with characters seen in media, such as videos, TV shows. I hate TV!

And folklore. I like how folklore is a media. I am not media kin, and I'm somewhat skeptical of the validity of these beliefs but since I know that I am a wyvern I see no reason I like how in your face you are What a physical worm. What? It's not a worm. I like how in your face you are.

I'm being a weaver. In your face, I'm a weaver. I'm skeptical of these people that believe that they are fictional beings. Because I know that I am this fictional being. Yeah, my fictional being was made up way longer than yours. I'm a fictional thing that's not very popular anymore. I see no reason you cannot know

you are a certain character. I am obliged to respect the beliefs and opinions of my kin. Very metal tolerance there. So is he implying that media kin are not other kin? They're an outsider community? I think it might be what

otaku kin want to start calling themselves or something. Because at the beginning it looks like ZAM music here is chastising and criticizing the people who believe that they're characters and at the end he says, I'm obliged to respect the beliefs and opinions of my kin.

This Venn diagram is getting very complicated. It's like a Venn vlog, Venn Amiga. Maybe he only is obliged to respect the beliefs of Wyvernkin. He's like a supremacist. I think the Venn diagram ends up looking like the average outline of one of these

kin. Alright, finish us off here, Stog. Lunar Song. Wow. Yeah, I think I have to agree with Super Vampire. That's pretty out there. Characters are just characters, not spirits. And other

kids are not characters exactly either. Some of us who write and such base characters off our own spirits, but our spirit is not a character from a movie or book or anything like that. Some of us who write and such.

That cleared up everything for me. I don't know about you guys. Can I just say that my favorite part of this whole thing is that this guy, his whole claim is that Robin Williams was actually channeling his Mork spirit.

I mean, that's like Ramtha. Well, that happens with a lot of these otaku-ken type people. There are so many of them that will post things like, okay, first of all, I'm Sephiroth. Secondly, Square got my story all wrong, and it pisses me off.

Ha! Alright, so we got some more Super Vampire coming at ya. Sweet. All right. So we got some more Super Vampire coming at you. Awesome. Super Vampire is just channeling my spirit, I think. Hello, everyone. Was away for a while and actually thought about your non-kin mates. Here's what I thought about it.

You may have a secret, girls. your non-kin mates. Here's what I thought about it. You may have a secret, girls. You probably figured some kind of effective tamming system for interaction with humans. I am, on the other hand, using an

old, good, hardcore brainwashing. That sounds so hot. Old, good. I hate when you're flipping through a cable and all they have is soft core brainwashing. Doesn't really work for a healthy relationship. Would you share your method?

It's a Halathi relationship. Halathi. Halathi. Would you share your method? It could be a nice addition to my system in the situations when brainwashing is too much trouble. So you have to brainwash

men in order to get them to sleep with you? She's a cat damn vamp that's what mortals trying to do brainwash ariana to make her sleep with them i don't find this perversion amusing i do we are talking here about making humans to do what they have and amusing. I do. That's how we...

We are talking here about making humans to do what they have to do without major effort. And sex is the last thing in the list. What's the first thing? These are all like words not... Anime.

Anime. Who needs these animals around? Controlling them is essential. not anime who need these animals around controlling them is essential and I did ask others about the easy ways of doing it but sleeping with them redundant seductress

caveman I think maybe ladies and gentlemen I'm just an otherkin. Og am sleep with human. How am baby form? By the way, I have noticed that you are talking about sex in every post

recently. What happened? Why on this dating forum is anybody talking about sexual relations? You can't brainwash even silly mortal women into jumping in your bed? This saddens me. I'd like to point out for emphasis that it was silly mortal woman, like as in singular. Damn it.

Whoa, man. Okay. singular. Damn it. Whoa, man. For a human, you are not so brainless. Probably. What? Probably you just plain ugly. Oh my god. You're in the shit now, fam.

You've given me the greatest character. She writes like she's... Everything she writes sounds like it's being said by Skeletor. You can't brainwash even silly mortal women into jumping in your bed. I like the idea that a couple days down the road she'd apologize for all her snaps and be like, Oh, I'm sorry, my otherkin spirit took over. I used to use that excuse. No way, I didn't type that. It was the gangstalkers.

I used to use that excuse on otherkin. None of them accepted it when I would say it. Be like, you're an asshole and you're making stuff up. I'm sorry, that's not me. That's that little rainbow creature that I'm drawing all over my website. She said it. I'm nice. So how do, since this dude responds, like quotes and responds,

what should we do about that? Like, how should I read that? Or should we stage it more as a conversation? Just skip the quotes. Yeah, I think just skip the quotes. Just read the quotes in a funny voice. Oh, okay. Yeah, in a really, like,

amusing... I like to read the quotes in a funny voice. Oh, okay. Yeah, and it's really, like, amusing. Yeah, the do-do-do-do. I like it. Well, gee whiz. Sorry for assuming that sex would naturally be one of the duties of what you would call non-kin mates. Generally, a mate is a creature you have sex with in order to procreate. Roll eyes. Vamp, that's what mortals are trying to do.

Brainwash Ariona and make her sleep with him. I don't find this perversion amusing. You pretty directly said that you use brainwashing to get humans to do what you want. Explain to me how brainwashing you is any different from you brainwashing normal people. Because it's against the code, duh. The code of the area. Ken?

We are talking here about making humans to do what they have to do without major effort, and sex is the last thing on the list. Who needs these animals around? Controlling them is essential, and did I ask others about easy ways of doing it, but sleeping with

them is redundant. No idea what any of this means due to confusing grammatical errors. Can you please clarify what this means? Getting hot up in here! It's a cat fight. Super vampire fight. By the way,

I have noticed that you're talking about sex in every post recently. What happened? You can't brainwash even silly mortal woman into jumping into your bed? This saddens me. For a human, you are not so brainless. I'm just talking about sex because other people were talking about it first. And so I feel it necessary to put in my two cents.

And I don't need to brainwash girls in order for them to sleep with me. As I said in my other post, the girls in the LA area are already brainwashed by our society. Damn! Damn! This is the dating side? Let me contact the super vampire guy.

They're brainwashed because they won't sleep with me. They're all lesbians anyway. You should sing. You should do that in song all the time. Brainwashed into being a fat, ugly vampire kin. Aren't attractive. Society told them that. Uh-huh.

Probably. You just plain ugly. Well, that's what I mean I don't see how a comment like that is warranted by someone who admittedly brainwashes men in order to control them if you were attractive you would need to brainwash although if you are

attractive it would make it much easier for you to brainwash someone and you would have done you would have a lot more control over them so I'm not sure and I can't really imagine a man putting up with being you would have a lot more control over them, so I'm not sure. What? And I can't really imagine a man putting up with being brainwashed by some ugly beast, which most of the female...

I like that Super Vampire has now argued him or herself into a corner. And most internet dating websites in general are. Now, I can't really counter that comment without sounding arrogant, but since when have I been worrying about coming off as arrogant? I certainly don't think I'm ugly, but I'll let you decide. And we've got a bunch of pictures. Sadly, the account that goes around is disabled. He's so ugly, he's got a photo bucket account. goes around is disabled. He's too- he's so ugly he got photobucket- I can't believe it.

Photobucket my d- Vampires don't show up on camera, so uh, I don't think- Oh, yeah. I guess you could say he kicked the photobucket. Do we have like a laugh track or anything? You know, a laugh track made entirely out of stog laughing. That would be great. Out of like 20 stogs. That would be... I think Super Vampire's

a cutie. And I really want to fuck him. Do you think I'm brainwashed? I think you're a cutie. And I really want to fuck him. Do you think I'm brainwashed? I think you're a sock puppet. You way too wordy, boy. The last thing Ariona may want from you humans is sex. That's for sure. The last human a sane creature, including Ariona, would want it from is you.

What? Holy shit. It's just random words. Fails the Turing test, I'll tell you that much. Encourage. You have shown how disgusting your personality is. Here you have added your face. My sincere compassion.

It's like a poem, I think. It's like the midget from Twin Peaks. But even being ugly, you would have more personality in that thing you are calling a face. Oh, wow. In my past life, I was a total bitch. In my past life, I was a total bitch.

Kitten, I'd owe you one if you'd calm this rabbit down. Smiley face. Mysterious smiley face. Ghost smiley face. Let's see. Yes, I know, I'm too wordy you think it's bad here you should hear me when I'm talking

I tend to think much faster than I can get ideas out so it gets all jumbled don't worry you're one of the last people I'd want to screw too that whole referring to yourself in the third person thing isn't too sexy as for my personality too. That whole referring to yourself in the third person thing isn't too sexy. As for my personality,

you don't really know anything about my personality except for the exaggerated, fearless internet version of it. But that is pretty much how I think, although I disagree with you that it's disgusting. But hey, that's an opinion of you. That's an opinion, and if you want to think that way, then so be it.

Guys, guys, I have a theory real quick. I think Super Vampire is Derek Smart. Derek Smart. Derek Smart. Derek Smart. This is just how other can date. This is how they get into a conversation with each other. Toss poorly worded

insults and then the last thing on the list first is rambling, I guess. Then they have wing flapping sex. Ariona likes it when you touch her there. That's hot. I really wish we could get those pictures But you must also realize that none of what I think is set in stone

It changes as my environment and experiences change I try very hard not to get set into one way of thinking because I am then free to think and feel as I please. I also tend to make sweeping generalizations, as they are the easiest way to quickly get a point across. What I meant to say is, I don't like that Jew, but it just came out wrong. I don't know, I think that he'd be pretty well at home on Portal of Evil news. I think sweeping generalizations, just to make a point. Him and Prawn, she'd get into an argument.

But I also think that these generalizations have many, many exceptions. Whatever, though. If you still think I'm disgusting, then quit replying to things I'm saying, because that just makes me want to keep on ranting, and when I do that, I tend to get into a zone where I just think of semi-reasonable ways to say extremely offensive things with the intent of getting a reaction. Because remember... He's in the zone.

He's in the zone. Longest sentence ever. Because remember... I'm in the zone, and I'm eating the p-zone. I'm in the internet forum posting zone. Don't bother me. Because remember, the only reason I'm on this site is because I honestly find you guys entertaining, and I find your beliefs and weird crap truly fascinating.

Wink. Just one favor. Try not to get too mad at me as it reduces your own ability to think. Remember, I'm just having a good time. I have no intention of chasing any of your beliefs, and I just want to understand them, which has been very hard to do as you guys seem to insist

on resorting to personal attacks against myself with crack butts in your place. Damn, Superman. I'm a troll, and you guys are all crazy. Why do you keep attacking me though i'm just trying to collect information on you people that i think is stupid and you're making it very difficult what the fuck all right so it's my turn echo ellipsis. Echo. Ariona's an extremist,

just like Super Vamp, but with a contrasting set of values and opinions. Temperament-wise, though, they are not dissimilar. Okay, guys, instead of insulting each other, maybe you should set up a meeting, go out to a county fair or something, have fun together.

Maybe you find the other attractive in an extreme sort of way. A new Bravo reality show. In an extreme sort of way, like the Mountain Dew commercial or something. Enjoy your company! You're going to go bungee jumping. Let's skydive into some Red Bull!

Oh! Well, you know, Echo, I was thinking the exact same thing as I was reading this thread, but for once I find myself not exactly agreeing with Super Vamp, but definitely leaning towards his side, and stranger yet, it seems that Super Vamp

has more respect! Holy crap! Dariona, I don't want to insult you. I have tried to be civil with you. I have tried to explain things in ways that you do not understand. It's nice to have your own ideas but it's important to understand others.

It's nice to have your own ideas. It's lovely. It is nice. It is, you know, it's a first world value. You were one of those people that give otherkin a bad name and the crazy status.

You, you're exactly the kind of person that gives people like Super vamp the ammo to make fun of us and most of the stuff they have against us is true in your case how can i be completely upset with super vamp for attacking me or us when we have such great, such a misguided and confused person representing us like you. Wow. Participles.

He is one of, he is the one being level-headed in the argument and every comment has a good reason behind it where your arguments are just self-righteous babble. Of course, you're having trouble with men. You're being a plain butch to them. You're haughty, arrogant, stuck up, and selfish. You completely isolate yourself referring to yourself in the third person.

That's such a huge sign the shrink look for just that one guy and then make sure you're self the victim we are not here to be a hierarchy to humans to be a hierarchy to humans. We are supposed to coexist with them. Also, very few females here agree with you. Just because we have something in common doesn't mean we will be a community that supports

you. We are a community because we have similar beliefs and want to live peacefully with human, which I press again that we are as well. Give us rage. You treat humans worse than animals that are beat by their owners.

We are on a site that is trying to bring people together, but you hold contempt for humans. We are not an elitist group. You need to learn some respect! And that right there is the biggest problem I have with you. You showing yourself to be no better than any hate group member in history. Wow.

Wow. You refer to yourself in third person. Two paragraphs. You are Hitler. Okay. All right. Be it Nazi, KKK whatever everyone deserves to be shown

respect if you do not wish to do this then remove yourself from this population if you really seem to dislike human men so much, then just mate with other kind males. It's that simple!

If you can't find one, oh well. Deal. The rest of us get along with normal men fine. Either get off your damn pedestal. That, by the way, is a fabric that pedophiles wear. Or stay up in the clouds away from everyone else and leave them alone. Or stay up in the clouds away from everyone else and leave them alone. No one can blame any man for not liking them when you treat them so badly and with so little respect. Super Vamp, there is little I can be angry about with you.

There's a ton of which I disagree with. But technically, you're doing nothing wrong about it. Just going about it in aggravating ways, but that's exactly what you are doing. Thank you for acting a hell of a lot more mature and with respect, and you are very attractive. I ship it like burning. Alright.

You know, it sure is refreshing to see a nice, rational post like that from time to time. A rational post! Rage is 100% correct. Ariona was just fueling my rants because the crazy extremist viewpoint she seems to project is very easy to pick apart and expose

its weaknesses, which is something I get a great deal of pleasure out of doing. I did find it amusing how she would simply attack me rather than my opinion, but that does get boring after a little while. And about respect, I don't think she needs to show any respect towards me. I mean, I

wasn't really trying to be respectful towards her. I did imply that she need D to brainwash men in order for them to sleep with her. Actually, I didn't imply it. I just said it. But she should at least pretend to be respectful when she's arguing because that's the only way she'll be taken seriously.

I mean, some of the stuff I was saying was just as outlandish as what she was saying, but because I said it in a rational, respectful manner, it gains the advantage of being taken seriously. Thank you for being reasonable, GR. I realize you disagree with me on many issues,

but that I can respect. We all have our own opinions, and so long as you are reasonable when you disagree with me, there is no way I can beat you in an argument. And thanks for calling me attractive. It gives my ego a nice boost, although I don't think my ego needs any more inflation.

Aw, Super Vamp. It's wired to see you being rational. Gibbous. Super Vampire. Group hug! Group hug! Okay.

Group hug! Okay, I'm just kidding. I had to ruin the moment. And yes, GB, Super Vampire is a total hottie. Oh my god. Well, that's how SuperVampire gets a super status. In a real film, the completely not repulsive

become sexy. In response to, what is her name again? Oh yes, Ariona. In response to Ariona's Smackdown. This is probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read. Treating humans as animals, taming them,

brainwashing them, all are disgusting and downright monstrous behaviors. Manipulation of that sort in any relationship is unhealthy, wrong wrong and absolutely foul especially taming or breaking your partner it's the stuff a horror hyphen movie wife hyphen abuser is made fun of it's made of don't make fun of them Don't make fun of them. You hit your wife.

Such thoughts are the motivation for among the worst, absolute worst sex crimes. Besides, I think Vamp has a good point. I never needed to brainwash anyone to sleep with them either. And if I did, I deserve to be locked up. By the way, sorry about my intrusion into the women-only form. If it was egregious, please forgive me. Bow his head apologetically. That actually said a bit was erroneous.

Yes, this is all in a woman-only form. And I believe that Super Vampire is a guy, so... Super Vampire goes where he wants. He's a free spirit. You can't contain Super Vampire. He's a super vampire. He's a free spirit. You can't contain Super Vampire. He's a super vampire. He's not any normal vampire. He's a super vampire. You gonna argue with him?

He's super. Yeah, I had an eyebrow raised at seeing a male or two in a ladies-only section, but you came here to make a good point. The last man I was with, I started out by testing the waters with various casual conversational questions. True, I wasn't awakened by then, but I did consider myself a furry

in the spiritual sense, thank you. No, thank you. It turns out that he wasn't only accepting of it, but almost as open-minded an individual as I am, which is saying a lot. For a short period of time, but almost as open-minded an individual as I am, which is saying a lot. For a short period of time, we were so attuned to each other, we could even guide each other safely through shared past lives. Not hypnosis,

but waking visions. There is a difference. So, instead of getting into relationships where you have to tame a man or hide from him who and what you are, why not just get into a relationship with someone more understanding? They don't have to be otherkin to be open-minded, after all. But then, I'm not one for one-night stands.

Shrugs. Shrugs. Shrugs. Shrugs. Who's awful? Awful wolf! Wait, I was just reading the

sig for Laranthela. You can never let the sun set on tomorrow before the sun rises today. Jesus Christ. What the hell does that mean? I was trying to parse it.

It's not tomorrow until today is over. You know what they say. Let the sun go down on tomorrow except on today, but maybe later. Can't be Wednesday until it's no longer Tuesday. That's so deep. Fuckin' the ass corporation. You can never let the sun set on tomorrow before the sun rises today.

Alpha Wolf! Getting back to the actual subject, I don't think you can tame a human. I prefer to think you fit them nicely into your life. As for brainwashing, yeah, I prefer to have integrity. No offense, men. I just don't think manipulating anyone will be successful in the end. Well, I can't hear you.

Yeah, someone was just really quiet. I can't hear anything. Oh, man. Who just spoke? Alendra. Who is Alendra? Me. I'm Alendra, but somebody was just talking and they were really quiet.

Me? Maybe. on here. Me. I'm Alendra, but somebody was just talking and they were really quiet. Yeah. Me. Me? Maybe. Uh. Uh-oh. French toast, you still with us? Yes. Okay. Alright. Alright, do it up. Was it you, uh, was it you

top us? Alendra? Yeah. You're kind of quiet there. Oh, yeah. Go tools, options. Every week somebody has to do this. Yeah. Tools, options, audio setting, and turn off the

auto-re-adjust. Automatically adjust microphone settings? Yeah, turn that off. Skype likes to gradually make you disappear from the call. I'm being erased. You're being erased. Hello, welcome to eradication.

All right, Elendra and what do you do for a healthy relationship I'm sorry but I've had friends killed by their controlling boyfriend I think that goes beyond controlling their controlling boyfriend. Yeah, a whole lot of them, I'm sure. I think that goes

beyond controlling. Yeah, well, that's the ultimate expression of control, isn't it? They all got together and did it at once. This kind of mindset sickens me! I say live and let murder.

Hey, Acer I got one for you oh baby I love it when you talk dirty so this is a I sent it just to Acer it's a forum post with only one post and it's guys

you know, because the one was the Mork from Ork, and this is somebody else's kind of like Genesis story. If you're asking what happened in my last life, then I'll chat away. Best to start with before this time. Hooray, hooray. Well, when I hatched, I saw the battles of my kind fending off the enemy.

We were a really kind and loving Phoenix Dragon clan. Where's this person? Wow. Phoenix Dragon. But we wouldn't be so nice if someone threatened us. Yeah, we were the nice one. Apart from that other dragon, Phoenix Clan, they were assholes.

Me and my brother, Shale, were caught in the middle of it. As we hatched from the same egg, he fell into a crack in the earth, leaving me in sight and was taken to live a happy life. He was left behind and attacked, almost beaten to death, with his forelimbs ripped from his body and his eyes torn to shreds.

Oh my god, that's so true. Oh, it's so sad. I escaped my clan and went to look for him when I was three weeks old, old enough to pad across the land and old enough to see properly, weeks old, old enough to pad across the land, and old enough to see properly, only getting caught along the way and forced to work in a mine for 60 human years!

Oh, man! Oh, no! Phoenix dragons are very handy to have in mines. This is like Oliver Quist, but real life. Well, it's like, fuck you Holocaust victims, I was put into a camp for 60 years when I was

only three weeks old. Beat that. I ran away and spent 200 years in solitude, afraid of being found. Then I found Shay, and we stayed together until the rest of our

days. So you found your limbless, blind brother, really, and you lived with him. Well, I don't know because his brother is Shale and then there's Shay. No, that's the nickname. Yeah, it's just a cute little nickname.

We know each other well enough. How dare you denigrate his phoenix dragon name in a nickname form? Have you no respect? Is that all the post? No, there's more. You guys can... That would have been great.

It gets better. My brother died. My brother was almost dead and got ripped apart. I was sent to a prison and then spent time in solitude. Then we found each other at the end. Happy story.

I wish my human life was as happy. This life... What? I wish in my human life my brother were ripped apart in front of me and I were imprisoned. Yes. This life is a drag. Full stop.

And the only things I look forward to is having a family with the help of my long lost dragon brother Shale by my side. I am kinda animalistic you might say, but at the end of the day, we're all animals.

So isn't finding a mate and having a loving family not what we're all looking for? The end. To be continued? What the hell was that? I'll get you back, humans. So my life...

I'm kind of glad there was that. My life is terrible pain. It's horrible. It's actually worse than being forced to work as a slave for 60 years and then 200 years of solitude prison. No, the solitude was self... The solitude was self-administered.

Out of fear? How do you imprison a dragon? Very carefully. I don't... You just have a normal-sized... Crispy creams. I get the feeling that in his human life

there's a lot of self-imposed solitude going on as well. You can't leave this prison until you eat this wall of carrots. But I don't like carrots. This healthy food will keep you here. But I like meat. Don't leave me here.

That's a nice dragon voice. We go down like moles, claws digging in this hole. We descend on fours, our snouts lead us on. And there we go. 50 minutes, give or take, of a conversation about spirit animals. John, what do you think you learned this week? I learned that the box that I put Otherkin in before is really constricting and really, really short-minded. And that Otherkin can be anything. They can be anything.

They can be elves, aliens, fairies, anything but the horrible people they are in real life. Well, they came up with a really good term for themselves, which is that, you know, the word that they use is otherkin, other, you know, being miscellane. So, otherkin is just something, yeah, other

than myself, something else. Wolf, maybe, I don't know. Fairy, perhaps. Data from Star Trek The Next Generation. Or a box of paper clips. Whatever I like. And you can't tell me it's not true

because my soul tells me that it is. Yeah, and I like... They didn't really say it outright because they couldn't. But I like the implication they kind of had that people with bipolar or an actual disorder are a lot more officially recognized than them. Like it's an actual real thing. So it's like – so in that way, people with broken brains have a leg up on them because they actually exist and I've really – that thing. leg up on them because they actually exist and i've really that thing not only that but they're actually genuinely jealous of people with schizophrenia and psychotic breaks right

yeah it's it's uh it's you know and the other thing the other thing too is that is that other kin and you know there's a lot of like internet subgroups that are like this, but Otherkin is another one of those that this is not a thing that happens without the internet. Yeah, or it's something that does happen, but they don't get in a group like they do

without the internet. Yeah. The internet is like the ethereal plane. You exist in spirit. you don't have to shove your fat smelly self out into the real world to meet people i mean just imagine the the smell of an otherkin convention it would kill any living being soul or otherwise because yeah i mean in a world without the internet somebody wakes up and they go, oh, God, I had a dream that I was a dragon. That was weird.

But when you have this idea of there's always groups of people that are willing to justify whatever it is that you've got, then you go like, I had a dream where I was a dragon. Yeah, that's because you are a dragon. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm an expert because I'm a goblin. Well, just the real thing that gets me is that you know although it would be horribly nerdy and still pretty you know kind of a shut-in mentality if they were just play acting if they're it's like you know i'm role-playing that i'm a dragon in my soul you know it's just

something i like to believe about myself or that it's like spirit animals totems or something you know sure i could you know it'd still be kind of sad and still extremely nerdy and fat and funny and F-plus worthy yeah, exactly, but I could kind of see it you know, they want to play that they're some mystical magical super creature but these people just made the leap

it's like, hmm, I wish I were a dragon in my soul I must be a dragon in my soul as always thank you to all of our readers growing and changing by the week and to Boots Rangier our resident editor recorder guy

whose connection sometimes works yes and our website I forgot what it is again that is thefpl.us. That's right. Come visit us, leave messages, or I don't know, just record on, you know, just subscribe on iTunes like everyone else does. Until next week, I've been Lemon.

And I've been John. And, you know, being a cardboard box, I think I've got to get back to, you know, commune with other boxes. Well, then I will say this to everybody who listens to the podcast. Be safe. Be well. Be a fairy dragon. Have a good night.

Good night. Good night. I'm Spaghetti! Spaghetti!