The F Plus - 171: r/mystupidopinions

Episode Date: March 30, 2015

There's so many opinions on the internet, and those opinions are held by people who take considerable effort to try to convince others that their own opinion is correct. But what happens if you ...want your opinion to be changed by facts and persuasive arguments that others provide to you? Well, hypothetically you go to r/changemyview, a subReddit where people share their own opinion, and then sit back and carefully consider every conflicting opinion that's presented to them. In theory, this is a terrific idea! This week, The F Plus discovers the White Power Black Hole.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The principle of bros before hoes is not a good rule to abide by? Hello, true believers! Welcome to the FLS Podcast, an intelligent place for terrible things. Excelsior! Right with enthusiasm. In the room tonight we have boots, rain gear. Change my view. It's not possible to make a rational argument for why someone shouldn't be a brony. Yes,
Starting point is 00:00:34 Vaughn. Change my view. I believe that it would be possible, in principle, to survive the heat death of the universe. Ace Yakawaddle! There should be an internet police that go around and delete ignorant comments. Change my view.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And Lemon. Change my view. I should quit Reddit forever. I'm going to bow out. Hey, F+. Hey, Lemon. Hi, Lemon. How are you all doing? I'm doing outstanding.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Quite well, really. I've got all these opinions. Oh, good, good, good, well, really. I've got all these opinions. Oh, good! Good! Good, good, good. The internet's a terrific place for opinions. I want to tell you a very brief story called The Tale of January 7th. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'll get comfortable. Alright, so here's what happened. On January 7th, 2015, somebody on Reddit discovered that Wesley Crusher Teenage Fuck Machine reading we did like two and a half years ago. I remember it very well.
Starting point is 00:01:53 So then it was linked from Reddit and the community, and then it ended up on the front page of some, I think a Star Trek sub board or something like that, and then everyone went to the site because they didn't understand there was an episode to listen to. They just, like, saw the words teenage fuck machine and then the M Plus has ever received by a magnitude of tenfold. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:31 If you look at the graph of the history of our website, for the entire history of it, it is a flat line and a peak on one day. Because the scale got thrown off by that one. Yep. So let me guess, we're going to go return the favor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Reddit's not going to know what hit them. That's right. F wasn't coming at you, spiking your graph.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Oh, yeah. You're going to get traffic from the number 600,000th place on the internet. Oh, yeah. So Reddit has a section called Change My View because the users of Reddit are an open-minded sort of folk who like to have their opinions changed. And Cheapskate put this document together. So this is all about somebody stating an opinion
Starting point is 00:03:24 and then looking to have their opinion changed. More like sitting back and smugly folding their arms. Is that the same thing? I think that's the same thing. Remove internet. Come on. All right. Let's see. So let's start off with a piece about a real philosophical and sociological problem that we have. I'm talking about small breasts. Isfahan, let's have your view change, would you? Okay. CMV, small breasts are a thing of the past. Changed my view. I guess CMV has changed my view. With a half a million women undergoing breast augmentation each year,
Starting point is 00:04:15 that should be the only factor to know that small breasts are a thing of the past. It's like debate club. Yep. Not a single television show depicting a female older than a Disney character poses small breasts. Wow. How old is a Disney character? Like than a Disney character poses small breasts. Wow. How old is a Disney character? Like, which Disney character? You know, a Disney character.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean... Well, Cruella de Vil, right? Grandmother Willow from... Yeah. From Pocahontas. Sure. Yeah. He poses small breasts, which is totally the correct verb for that sentence.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Even cartooned females have larger breasts. I like that. Asian women go to extremes to appear more western by mimicking large breasts and even bleaching their skin. That's a large breast! Bong, bong, bong. That's how you mimic large breasts.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm a large breast. Blubby, blubby, blubby. Small-breasted women are seen as underdeveloped, inadequate, and less attractive. C-cups are seen as a small size due to the growing number of larger breast implants. Rarely do men comment on the niceness of small breasts, and it would be a lie to say the world did not praise and idolize large breasts. Can you change my view, or do you agree? Balls in your court,
Starting point is 00:05:30 Reddit. Well, I don't know. Does anyone on Reddit have opinions about breasts? I do! Oh! Who are you? I am Wizardry Awaits! Okay. Yeah. If you think there is no demand for small breasts and no man wants it,
Starting point is 00:05:48 you may want to check out slash r slash tiny tits slash r slash dirty small slash r slash petite gone wild or slash r slash double A cups. Petite gone wild? Petite gone wild. If anything, the prevalence of fake breasts has put people off larger breasts, preferring to see real ones even if they are smaller.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's actually a really big market for it in porn. It's one of the more mainstream areas. Yeah. My name's Horace-y. Oh, hey. Horace-y. My name's Horace-y. Oh, hey. Horace-y.
Starting point is 00:06:27 My name's Horace-y. That's what my name is. Yes. Okay. Your statistic is incorrect. There are probably hundreds of TV shows. Which is less incorrect than whatever he said. What?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Probably are. I don't know. I didn't count them all. Jesus. But I don't... What? Also't count them all. Jesus. But I don't... What? Also, he didn't provide any statistics data. Did I miss the hidden argument that there were only dozens of TV shows?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Hey, AC Air. Well, yeah. What are your views on Ted DiBiase? Ted, the millionaire man, DiBiase. And can we change them? Okay, look. This is the challenge. See if you can change my view.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Ted DiBiase is the most deserving wrestler never to have won the WWF title. He had the million dollar belt. He made it himself. Gave it to himself. Yeah, but that's not... That's... I don't know. You're confusing the issue.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Stop that shit. Look, look, look. Ted DiBiase was one of the most talented, healed, villain wrestlers ever to have graced the so-called major leagues of wrestling. His persona was strong enough to have
Starting point is 00:07:50 carried him from 1987 in the WWF, now WWE, to recent events including his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. He was the top heel in the company for a number of years wrestling the likes of Hogan, Savage, and the Ultimate Warrior. His wrestling skills were above average.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Oh, well then! It was in the so-called major leagues of wrestling. You're pissing me off here. And his endurance was strong, evidenced by his, at the time, record-setting 45-minute longevity in the 1989 Royal Rumble.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And then he died, I guess. Oh, hot. Ooh, hot. Wait. Sorry. His promos were above average on his off nights and phenomenal when he was on his game. His trademark laugh and ring entrance music are iconic and attention-catching.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Who's that man laughing over there? It's me! Ooh. His gimmick of being rich enough to buy everyone and his catchphrase... Wait a sec. He's buying everyone a catchphrase? No, you're about to
Starting point is 00:08:54 say his catchphrase. This is a good catchphrase. His gimmick of being rich enough to buy everyone and his catchphrase, everybody's got a price for the million dollar man. Is that actually his catchphrase? everybody's got a price for the million dollar man. Is that actually his catchphrase? What does this have to do with winning WWF titles?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Maybe I'll get there eventually. I don't know. Did he win WWF title matches? I think I'm going to win this, change my view thing by boring it a bit. Are racers just banned in the WWF, like, writer's room? Like, you just write down a catchphrase, you're just
Starting point is 00:09:29 not allowed to pitch a second one? Like, everyone got a prize for a million dollar man! Okay, let's see if we can- No! That's the fucking catchphrase! It's pretty high turnover back there. Yeah, I suppose that's true. They were enough- That phrase was enough to cement him as a hated man, as planned, to fans.
Starting point is 00:09:50 His vignettes with fans, whether real or plants, made him even more vilified in the minds of the fans. Half of his fans were ficuses. Yes. An era when heels were supposed to be booed. Wait, as opposed to what? Uh... Louded, I guess. Ah, it's the bad guy!
Starting point is 00:10:12 Hooray! The million dollar belt is arguably the best looking belt in the history of wrestling. All right, Google image search. It's just like covered in rhinestones. I think it was like a black piece of felt with a rhinestone forming a dollar sign, yeah. It looked like Richie Rich's pool.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's a very succinct description. Well, wait a minute. If he's got the best belt anyway, then what the fuck does he need a shitty WWF one for? Because I want you to change my view on Bored This Weekend. Oh, okay. I mean, sorry, I gave it away, didn't I? He was one of the very few people who could have portrayed the role
Starting point is 00:10:49 to the level he did. All of these combine to convince me that Ted DiBiase is the most deserving man ever to have not held the WWF title. Alright, well that's fair enough. But, you know, we have another topic that's somewhat on the same tack as this Millionaire Mad Deb DiBiase.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And that's that dubstep. Now, by that, I mean real dubstep. Of course. Hit a creative wall after 2011 and 2012, and now it's very boring. After that, it started to break down. Yeah. Wow. That's all I had. Only now it's very boring. After that, it started to break down. Yeah. Wow. That's all I had.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Only now it's boring. Now it's very boring. Minute of silence for that joke. All right. Yeah. So, yeah, after 2011 to 2012, it's very boring. I really like a lot of dubstep, particularly the 06 to 08 stuff, like early Hessel Audio, Punch Drunk, early Apple Pips, etc.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And a few years after that, there's still some good stuff to be heard, like Silky and similar artists, etc. But now, new dubstep releases just seem to be either way too minimal and broody, Dungeon, they're way too minimal and broody. Dungeon. Broody? Okay. Or the tracks seem more like elaborate DJ tools.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Oh, no! Wait a minute, this is just Fruity Loops. That don't really function as something I'd listen to at home, i.e. lividy sound, mum dance, etc. Mum dance, etc. Dubstep's always been about the effect with the crowd in a sound system, but songs like Turd Broken Heart, Martin Remix, are able to stand out on their own without needing to be mixed by a DJ on a system. Huh.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Okay. I like the acoustic dubstep. Is that what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. I like the acoustic dubstep. Is that what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Is there dubstep that's come out in the last year, this year, or the last year that isn't so boring? I can listen to dubstep all-stars volume six over and over, but volume 11? Whoa. Whoa. In comparison, it just sounds like a constant collage of punchy drums and random distorted warbly sounds with the occasional dark movie sample. And that's not what dubstep's about, man. Change a couple words and we're back in adult DVD talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Actually, you could swap out dubstep. You could swap out in there, though. You could swap out dubstep with almost any genre, and somebody somewhere is making this argument. I even went to a recent show where there's a bunch of current dubstep artists play. Dusk and Blackdown, Ven, Paris, Paris, etc. And it was cool and all, but the only songs that really excited me were the ones with 4x4 beats. So my name's deleted, and I'm just now realizing that I'm getting old.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Isfahan, your name's CruxOfficial, and you're a dubstep producer, right? Ooh, yeah, I got the... I'm a... frickin' authority on this. You like how I covered up my Ctrl-F searching for CruxOfficial? No, I covered up my Control-F searching for
Starting point is 00:14:05 No, I had no idea that you were searching for it. Okay. Alright, guys. Just gonna wipe the cocaine off your nose. You're not alone in the view that the good old days of Dubstep were far better, and now everything is quote, very boring. I don't think that is the case. In 2012,
Starting point is 00:14:24 thousands of young people, as young as 13, were inspired by dubstep's popularity and started making it themselves. As such, there is loads and loads and loads of new music out there, so it may be harder to find what you like. So to show the variety, there is within dubstep
Starting point is 00:14:41 and similar genres, there's the classically influenced the jazz influenced the heavy the demonic the calm the funky and the mainstream what i'm trying to say is not that you need to listen to all of this but there is still an insane variety of music appearing nowadays and while i don't know where to look for it there is probably some on school tunes appearing too even i create dubstep oh really. Even I create dubstep. Oh, really? Even you, the dubstep producer, creates dubstep? I'm a Crux official.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So, yeah, dubstep's totally alive. There's 13-year-olds out there, and even I create it, in addition to those 13-year-olds who are making the most wonderful music. Do you have a sentence that could just sum up your whole point there, Crux Official? Look, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:15:30 if you don't like modern music, meaning music made after 2008, don't listen to it. Yay! Yay! That old chestnut. I hate music, got too many notes. Music tastes is just one
Starting point is 00:15:44 of those things, Winky Face. There's something I stumbled across, which I really had to share with you right now. Oh, yeah, I'd love to hear what that is. Yeah, oh, okay. Well, I'll tell you. I found the rules. They have provided rules. Here's what five, and your posts have to be at least 500 characters long,
Starting point is 00:15:59 and they actually provided you a sample of what 500 characters looks like. Oh. You know, just in case you got confused, this is what 500 characters is like in helpful lorem ipsum, no less. You need to be able to visualize it. That's all. Carry on. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Anyway. Yeah, my name... My name... You sound kind of sheepish. My name's Poisonous Platypus. Okay, that's a cool name. You sound like a pretty cool guy who I would like. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I am, especially once you hear my view. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:36 What's that? I don't think we'll need to change it, though. Sorry, I'm just a little sick to my stomach for no reason. I believe it isn't unethical for somebody to have a sexual relationship with an animal. Oh, fuck! Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Could you stay right there? I have to check my phone. Hang on. Okay. I'm just putting my phone away now. So, I'm really going to read this? Yep. Okay. Oh right. I'm just putting my phone away now. So I'm really going to read this? Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Oh, boy. The opening sentence is pretty terrific. I feel the need to put a disclaimer here. I do not condone animal rape. There we go. Problem solved. Thank God. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I thought you were one of the bad ones. I've never had a sexual relationship with an animal, nor felt the desire to. You certainly are invested in this topic, though. Yeah, but I had this thought a while ago and spent some time on slash r slash bestiality and slash r slash zoophilia. Why are these sexist things? Okay, and a couple of other forums. I just don't see the ethical problems.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Okay. I do find these people weird, but I don't see them as bad people. Sorry if I offend any homosexual or bisexual people with this comparison. Oh, god damn it! Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But I think bestiality is considered unethical for the same reasons as homosexuality. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. It's weird. It's unnatural. And those people aren't wrong to consider homosexuality unethical, so...
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, and it stops the population from growing. What? I mean, no. No, it doesn't. I base this on these principles. Da-da-da-da. Da-da-da-da-da. That might as well be what it says.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Because it's A, everybody knows what will happen. You will get arrested. B, everybody consents to what will happen. I certainly consent to you getting arrested. All right. Everybody is in a proper state of mind to consent. Everybody wants you to get arrested. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I guess we're ethical here, then. That's a relief. Can I stop? No, you've got to keep reading. Your post is not reading. I think most people agree to these parameters. Feel free to suggest an addition I may have missed. Look down at your skin.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Is it made of straw? Aww. A lot of people believe that animals can't consent, and I totally disagree. Animals screw each other constantly. I mean, no. No, that's what the whole heat cycle is. They don't have sex very often.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And don't see much difference if it's with a human. There's no such thing as non-consensual sex between animals. Another thing I've considered is that people will think that the animals are trained, but they don't normally need to be trained from what I've seen. They do it naturally. What have you seen? What troubles have you seen? Look, he's never had a sexual relationship with an animal nor felt the desire to.
Starting point is 00:19:56 But from what he's seen Just one sentence left, Boots. All this is based off of normal ethical standards, where if you wanted to, you could castrate, tie, burn, and shoot an animal, but not have consensual sex with a... Hold on a sec. Yeah, because there's no such thing as animal cruelty laws, right?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. Sorry, I just had to... Yeah. You do that a lot, do you? I just had to get rid of something there. That's the evil trying to escape your body. Okay. I feel unclean, Lemon.
Starting point is 00:20:42 What? I feel unclean. Yeah, yeah, I thought you might enjoy that one. Great, thanks. Well, you know, let's move this along. Let's go to a happier, nicer subject. Oh, thank God. Acier, your name, oh my God, your name is Hate India.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Wow. And what's your view that we should change? I know you're not, I'm going to surprise you with this one You're not going to see it coming But India is a despicable country And why should I not hate all Indians? Again, I'm hate India Reddit.com
Starting point is 00:21:16 Slash r slash change my username Yeah, when your username Is hate India, I don't really believe you When you want someone to change your view on hating India Wow Yeah username is hate India I don't really believe you when you want someone to change your view on hating India wow yeah okay yep wow this is this is this is an experience whoo all right um okay let me start off with my history with India and the people there back in the late 90s and early aughts I worked for an IT company that was contracted out to go to Delhi, India, and set up IT infrastructure in some call centers slash businesses and train the local admins.
Starting point is 00:21:57 At this job, I made three trips to India, where each one was roughly two months, give or take a few days. So in total, I was in India for a total of six months over a two-year span. All right. Good. Alright, good. Okay. During my trips while I worked long hours during the week, the weekends me and my co-workers often travel around to different cities, towns, and tourist spots. One thing that struck all of us was how filthy the country
Starting point is 00:22:17 was. Piss, shit, and trash just all over the place. Even the clean places were disgusting to someone from a western country. Even backwoods hillbilly towns deep in the heart of the Appalachian Mountains were cleaner than 90% of India. Hillbilly backwater towns are, like, sparsely populated. So...
Starting point is 00:22:40 What's your point? No, I'm not right. How is the other 10%? Well it's a tie Oh The other 10% is a tie Yeah It's quantified this apparently
Starting point is 00:22:52 Statistics I'm gonna count every piece of shit in the street Seriously words cannot describe how filthy this country is Even pictures don't truly convey the mess as it does not transmit the smell. Oh my God, the smell of the shit and piss and God knows what else. For a taste of the trash,
Starting point is 00:23:14 just look at some of the pictures on this site. Blah, blah, blah. Who cares? Well, these pictures were mostly around the holy rivers. The cities were flipping disgusting. Hell Indians complain about how filthy Indians are. Heaven Indians do not. Oh, were you in Hell India?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Looks a lot like the Temple of Doom. Another thing we picked up on was the sexism. I'm not talking about the rampant rape and grouping that you constantly see in the newspaper or hell even saw on the street. There's groups everywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:49 This is a very populist country. As it turns out, it's group hunting. Guys, a little look like the Thomas do here. No, sorry. Can't take those. talking about it got to the point where the women, sorry, where the woman in my company refused to go to India because the locals either
Starting point is 00:24:07 ignored them, violated every HR rule on sexual harassment ever written, or were incredibly hostile towards them. What about three? Yeah. Well, it was an or, so it could be any one of the three. I witnessed on
Starting point is 00:24:23 more than one occasion where an Indian male told my female co-workers that a real man doesn't take orders from a woman. You can get that in America. On one occasion, I and another co-worker had to step in between a man who decided he would show a woman
Starting point is 00:24:39 her role in the witness. Totally happened. Totally. I could not blame the woman for not I could not blame the woman for not... Mop the floors, you! I could not blame the woman for not ever wanting to go to India as even as a man, I could not believe how the men treated women.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Now, I will say not all of the men acted this way. Just a very large portion of them did. And by the way... Holy shit, that was a comma. You're right. Wow. That was the first one. And by the way... That was a comma. You're right! Wow. That was the first one. And then scroll down to
Starting point is 00:25:09 the second to the last paragraph, because there's so many, many, many, many, many paragraphs in here. There's a dissertation here. I've actually broke my mouse wheel scrolling through this shit. We've got a Tildr paragraph here. Yep. From the time I have spent in India and the time I've spent working with people from India,
Starting point is 00:25:27 please change my view that India is a despicable country and why I shouldn't hate all Indians. Edit. Just want to add, I didn't hate India or the Indians before I dealt with India in a professional manner, as in the house. Yeah, as in the state house. Yeah. I also don't hate or dislike any other group. Just India and Indians. Oh, that's in the state house. Yeah. I also don't hate or dislike any other group. Just India and Indians. Oh, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:25:49 If you hate or dislike two or more groups, then you're officially a racist. Yeah. Sorry, dodged that bullet. Yeah, and then he goes on. I'm just looking at reddit.com slash user slash hate India. He is active well no it's just in this he is active in this trend
Starting point is 00:26:14 they do actually say that you're allowed to make a burner account for that so whatever there's some elaborately boring rule about exactly which hoops you've got to jump through to make a burner account, though. Yeah, so what we don't see is the username he's changed it to with, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:29 mildly tolerant of India. Perhaps his opinion got changed. India's fine, wink. My name is Shizovism. Shizovism. Shizovism. I don't understand why anyone would drink 2% milk. My name is Shizovism. Shizovism. Shizovism. I don't understand why anyone would drink 2% milk.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Now this is going somewhere. This is going somewhere. All right. I'm sorry. Is this a controversial topic? I'm buckling my seatbelt right now. I don't understand why anyone would. Whole milk, my dairy drink of choice, is by far
Starting point is 00:27:11 the tastiest milk. It has a lot of calories and fat that I can understand some people would want to avoid. Wait, you've already just shot yourself down with a fucking... Hang on now! Skim milk also makes sense to me because even though it doesn't taste nearly as
Starting point is 00:27:27 good as whole milk, it's got about half the calories and none of the fat, but choosing 2% over whole milk makes no sense in my mind! The calorie difference is there, but it is not significant and the taste difference is huge! How does one justify that?!
Starting point is 00:27:44 You might as well go all the way health-wise when you're already and the taste difference is huge! How does one justify that? You might as well go all the way health-wise when you're already sacrificing that much flavor! Wow. I talked to a friend about this, and he brought up the point that some people were raised on 2% milk. I think that's just sickening!
Starting point is 00:28:09 Alright. Alright, alright, alright. They drank the 2% Kool-Aid. Parents should only allow extremes. The parents shouldn't even have that in the house, and if they do, they should be getting whole milk for their kids. So change my view, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So does he think people get indoctrinated to 2% milk? I like Daylight's response. It's, uh, why stop at whole milk? Why not drink half and half? Or even cream? Damn straight! Because I want all the flavor! Flavor?
Starting point is 00:28:49 That's the word I'm using. Yeah! It's not milk until it makes my tongue slick! Slick! Deleted! Just ask me this question, please. Are you making a distinction between cooking and drinking? I don't really know that much about cooking.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Someone who knows more than me might know if there's a reason to use one type of milk over the other when cooking. But I'm specifically wondering why people choose to drink the lowest tier of milk. The lowest tier. The lowest. There's a strata. Also, I forgot to mention it in the OP, but it seems that 2% is more popular than other milks.
Starting point is 00:29:36 This is mind-boggling to me. How could it be popular? I don't like it. Alright, well, serious topic. That was a good palate cleanser, though. Yeah. Speaking of palate cleansers, Ispahan, you are Galaxy
Starting point is 00:30:04 23! Yes, I am. Ispahan. You are Galaxy 23. Yes, I am. Alright, folks. Change my view. Okay. I think using peanut butter or Nutella on waffles is better than maple syrup. We're gonna fight over this one, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Alright, bring it. Bring it. Okay. Here's a enumerated list. Oh, shit. Alright, bring it, bring it. Okay, here's a enumerated list. Oh, shit. Yeah, you've already lost. Oh, shit. Peanut butter and Nutella have a more solid texture, so it's less messy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So your starting argument here is that peanut butter isn't messy. Yeah, it's less messy. Okay. In a perfect world, but... Anyway, you can just put the waffle on a napkin and spread the peanut butter
Starting point is 00:30:54 and Nutella onto the waffle and eat it with your hand. You don't have to worry about dirtying a dish with that pain in the butt to clean syrup. Number two, they have less sugar.
Starting point is 00:31:10 They. Okay. We'll just take that as a given. Sure. It's less calories as you only use a percentage of the serving of peanut butter,
Starting point is 00:31:25 190, or Nutella, 200. Whole serving is two tablespoons. Whereas it is common to use more than a serving of maple syrup, 210. Full serving is a quarter cup. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Wait, so we're talking about a 10 to 20 calorie difference. But you know how when you're sitting down to your waffles and you got your maple syrup, you know how you portion it out, you get your jigger, right? And you portion it out. I use a graduated cylinder. Fancy pants.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But there's another thing here. This is a 10 to 20 calorie difference per waffle. And what motherfucker eats only one waffle? Or 10 waffles? It's more like 55 waffles. Now we're talking about like 7,000 calories difference right now. So good. Anyway, sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Carry on. Number four, they have more nutritional value. I mean... We're putting sugary shit on waffles. Yeah. I mean... People eating waffles are concerned about their nutritional value. I just don't want to get maple aids.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I better finish up this post so I can go back to splitting hairs. Wow. There's the huge con that people who are allergic can't use them as a substitute, however. But for everyone else I think this would be a healthier alternative
Starting point is 00:33:02 to the norm. Healthier? Yeah. Why aren't doctors recommending we switch from maple syrup to peanut butter on our waffles? This is why I had to escape that one time. Okay, clarification, guys, clarification. Okay. The mods mentioned yesterday that this was also a good place to come
Starting point is 00:33:28 if you didn't feel that your view was strong enough, so I thought maybe I could strengthen it because I'm thinking about petitioning some of my favorite mom-and-pop breakfast places to give it a test run on the menu. What a petition, Mom. You could ask for peanut butter Yeah You can just get plain waffles and put whatever the hell you want on it
Starting point is 00:33:49 No no What is that It says maple syrup That is not maple syrup It says it on the menu That's what you're getting I don't want the waitress to judge me It's on the menu it's loud
Starting point is 00:34:04 I also really love the idearess to judge me. It's on the menu at 12. I also really love the idea that, like, the Reddit mods, like, would, like, read over a post and go like, you know, that guy didn't really seem, like, strident enough in his own entrenched views. Yeah. Hey, these are people who get upset if you don't write 500 characters for your fucking opinion to be changed. Were you even wearing a fedora when you wrote that? Oh, yeah. Well, it was sitting on top of my head.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Sure. He was eating the waffle out of the fedora. Um, okay. This one. Boots, I'm going to give you this thread because I'm going to apologize for the previous thread that I gave you. Oh, good. All right, you ready? This one's great.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Your name is Knifesome. I'm Invenesome. Oh, Invenesome. Okay, yep. I'm Invenesome, and I think that Steve Harvey has taken a family out of Family Feud. Oh, shit. Yeah, I used to be able to watch the show with my family, but it has become nothing but cheap sex jokes.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah. Okay? Yeah, it's become. It was never that before. No, no, no. It's classy. And it's Steve Harvey's fault. Yeah. And I'm embarrassed Harvey's fault. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And I'm embarrassed to watch it with them anymore. The questions are posed in such a way to elicit dirty responses from the contestants. Yep. And even when they do answer accordingly, Steve makes a shocked face to the camera
Starting point is 00:35:41 as if that reply was so unbelievable every fucking time. a shocked face to the camera as if that reply was so unbelievable every fucking time. I think daytime television has a formula. I've noticed Hey, wait a minute! This Saturday Night Live
Starting point is 00:36:03 sketch is just an excuse for them to do their impressions! Oh, no. No, please say that again. What the fuck?! You were the day you crossed Matriarch. Wait, that Tootsie Cat drives off the cliff every time. I haven't watched SNL in, like, 40 years. So... I haven't watched SNL in like 40 years.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I've noticed he's been getting lots of love on Reddit lately, and I'm surprised by this. Steve Hardy has taken the family out of Family Feud. I bookended that. That's good. The person they see on the camera is responsible for the entire show. Yep. I'm a maverick gamer. I got 43 triangles or something.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Judging by the clips I've seen of older versions, it's never been exactly family. Also, I'm fairly certain that Steve Harvey is just a meat puppet on the show and he doesn't actually write questions. He just reads cards. Was Steve Harvey in the meat puppets? He was in the meat puppets.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I'm sorry, is just saying like employee not edgy enough anymore? No, he's the Meat Puppet. Blaming him for the questions is like blaming Tony Danza for the storyline of Who's the Boss? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I mean, sure. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And then somebody immediately was like, what about the whole thing with Richard Dawson making out with every goddamn woman that was ever on that show?
Starting point is 00:37:38 And Boots has no response to that, apparently. Nope. I then summed on somewhere else. Was that a really complicated way of saying I hate blacks? response to that, apparently. Uh, no. Goodbye forever. I then summed on somewhere else. Was that a really complicated way of saying, I hate blacks? You read a lot more into that than I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Well, he's a black guy. Yes, I know. All I got. He thought that's where the disconnect was I can't I'm not even going to take a guess I'm going to edit this episode I'm going to flip a coin as to whether or not I'm going to edit that out
Starting point is 00:38:13 You are not going to edit that out No put it in I'm a fucking idiot What the hell do I care Keep it in there Somebody's got to be an idiot Keep it in there. Okay. Somebody's got to be an idiot on here for a hundred times. Give us something else. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I wish my body... Hey! What? I'm the Isshunga. Oh. What's... Portax probably understands that reference. I wish
Starting point is 00:38:48 my body physically stayed five years old for far longer. About a hundred years, I guess. Change my view! I have too much stress now and
Starting point is 00:39:04 felt that I grew up faster before I was ready to. I'm an... Mm-hmm. Go on. Why did I give this one to myself? It's got through his. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. It took me a lot of effort.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Steel, here we go. I'm an adult kid, though I act like a man-teen around others, I suppose. And even try to pretend to be a kid who bedwets by wearing up-sized diapers with kid prints. You can see them on this different subreddit. Here we go! Let's all click on that link! Nope. Let's not. Why must I be at least 18 to view this? What the hell, Trenchcoat Reddit man?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Fourth search for Isshin Ga is DailyDiapers.com. Sure. Yay. Anyway. I fantasize about being in an alternate world where magic is an everyday norm, alternate world where magic is an everyday norm and I do something to get punished
Starting point is 00:40:07 with reverting my body back to five years old for a hundred years while still keeping my mental etc. faculties. Important. Gotta hold on to those with a steel grip.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I wouldn't want to lose those. Who also suffers from... Oh, also, yeah, so the five years old for a hundred years, right? Okay. Subclause. Who also suffers from urinary incontinence until I do enough good needs to earn continence. Well, in this case, it wouldn't be a punishment because you're into this.
Starting point is 00:40:52 A goblin put a curse on me! Things were relatively quite a bit more stress-free. One more time. Things were relatively quite a bit more stress-free at age five. And frankly, I would rather stay in an un-aging
Starting point is 00:41:10 five-year-old butt, do you believe me yet, for a hundred years than to go through the stresses I've had to go through thus far. Now, try to change my view from this, thanks! Um...
Starting point is 00:41:27 And then a whole bunch of people will try to rationalize with him. Yep. I can take Taekwondo and I can eventually learn how to overpower them with my five-year-old body. Yes, a five-year-old doing Taekwondo will eventually learn how to overpower them. I'd be a super... Oh, God. year old body. Yes, a five year old doing taekwondo. Eventually they're overpowered.
Starting point is 00:41:47 That'd be a super... Oh god. Alright. I'm not drunk enough for any more of that one. Isfahan, Cheapskate once again put this document together and there's 34 pages of it
Starting point is 00:42:02 but Boots just found something that we need to read immediately. Isfahan, would you please take the, but Boots just found something that we need to read immediately. Isfan, would you please take the thing that Boots just found? Sure. My name is MC Seal Clubber and change my view on the following. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I believe that in a fight, Superman would destroy Goku. Superman's power is just too over the top. Goku's not known for that. While Goku is incredibly powerful, Superman seems to have a certain power for just about any situation. In fact, I wouldn't say that anyone in the DBZ universe is on par with Superman. A major argument people tend to make when saying that Goku would beat Superman is that
Starting point is 00:42:42 if Goku loses, they'll just wish him back with the Dragon Balls, but doesn't the dragon refuse to grant the same wish twice? Superman would just kill him again. Nobody ever comes back to life in comic books. Oh, I'm sorry. With the amount of people that think Goku would win, I just feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Oh! Wow. Wow. Am I going? It's like a Twilight Zone episode. Alright. I'm Zero Shade. I can already tell
Starting point is 00:43:15 you're going to beat me handily. So this is entirely dependent on your views. One, we know that Superman is vulnerable to magic, so it highly depends on whether or not you consider whether Chi and the attacks the characters in DBZ Universe use is akin to magic in the DC Universe.
Starting point is 00:43:31 If you believe it is, and Superman doesn't stand a chance as a single comma would decimate him, if Chi is similar enough to magic, then Superman is weak to it. Think about a hammer made of kryptonite hitting him in the face again and again. Forever. Number two.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Number two. If we assume that it's not akin to magic, then we have to decide which Superman we're talking about. If you talk about the Gold Age Superman, then you're right. Goku doesn't stand a chance because Gold Age Superman was literally a god. His level of power was astronomical, and he could destroy the Earth by punching it if he wanted to. However, if we're talking about Silver age superman or the more recent superman comics then we have a discussion as efforts have been made to tone down this astronomical power level along with his abilities in the silver age not being quite so ridiculous if we go back to when superman was first created and superman doesn't stand a chance back then superman couldn't even fly his mode of transportation was literally
Starting point is 00:44:21 jumping really high and far was his only fast fast, speeding bullet, making Goku much faster. Number three. Once we've picked our version of Superman, and whether or not she attacks our magic for the purposes of the universal laws of comic... Oh, fuck. Sorry. Purposes of the universal laws of comic physics, then we can actually start discussing who would win or lose in a fight. Yay, that would be great! What a day!
Starting point is 00:44:49 This is just preamble. There's a lot of wincing happening at the other side of the room here. Yeah. People are starting to leave the panel. The strained breathing. Goku has actual combat training and various martial arts styles. His instant transmission
Starting point is 00:45:08 along with his desire and will to fight have a challenge. The Super Saiyan 4 transformation power level plus his other abilities is generally depicted as being as powerful, if not more powerful, than people who have defeated Superman in the past but with the constantly varying levels of power. It's hard to say. My money
Starting point is 00:45:24 would be on Goku, honestly. He couldn't kill Superman, but I think he'd still fight him to a standstill, if not win. Key blasts aren't magic! They're energy created by magic! Argument defeated, I guess? Dumb shit!
Starting point is 00:45:43 That Zero Shade guy, he had that, like, sitting in a text file on his desktop, just waiting to bring it out and control it. There's a copy. Oh, that was already in my clipboard. It's never not in his clipboard. And, Isvan, just real quick, take the front page of Reddit. Uh, you have some facts wrong. Golden Age was
Starting point is 00:46:09 ridiculously weak, while Silver Age was a god. Are you talking about PC Superman? Politically correct Superman? How embarrassing. Ah, you're right. I flip-flopped them. Oh, come on. Get your shit together.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Man, that's shameful. All right. Hey, F+. Hi. Are we starting an episode? Is this the start of the episode? Hey, Lemon. What have you got for us today?
Starting point is 00:46:42 What do you guys think about apathy? I could take it or leave it. I never thought about it, Lemon. What have you got for us today? What do you guys think about apathy? I could take it or leave it. I never thought about it, actually. It's a setup with only one punchline. All right, here we go. Hey, Sierra. What do you think about apathy? I don't think anything.
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's laziness. What's your name? Oh. Wow. Oh, my God. I had to read that three times. Yeah. I? Oh. Wow. Oh my god! I had to read that three times. Yeah! I am cunt god Jesus Nipple.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. That's right. So this is a Gibby Haynes account. Like, Mr. and Mrs. Jesus Nipple are very proud of me. Indiana Jesus Nipples. See if you can change my view. I think most problems in the US are due to citizen apathy,
Starting point is 00:47:28 but if we started caring, then we could make this nation into anything we want. What if we want it to be a nation of apathetics? Can you care enough about that? No. Then you lose. I think it's been forgotten
Starting point is 00:47:46 That the government works for the people They are merely public servants Including the president The government should be acting Under every demand Like servants, right? But in reality The public reacts
Starting point is 00:48:02 To government action Stop throwing that fucking snowball around Congress. Fix my fucking highway, asshole. Yeah. Now, this is due, me thinks, to nobody giving enough of a shit to get up and do
Starting point is 00:48:17 something. We could be demanding cuts to military funding so we could have more money to put into education and health and overall improvements to standard of living. These are things we can insist on, and they are not impossible things to accomplish, but because people don't care enough to do more than make internet posts about something they dislike, then the government has no reason to do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 The same applies with anything we want. Gay marriage, cannibalist legalization, that's all I can think of. These are things that have illogical laws attached to them, and I think more people need to get outright angry. Without the public telling the government what to do, the government will, already has, start acting for their own benefit, not the public's. I believe we have the
Starting point is 00:49:09 power, if we get rid of our apathy, to turn this country to what we can be proud of! Change my view! What the fuck is step two, asshole? Optimism!
Starting point is 00:49:26 People care, and then the country becomes something everybody wants. I think stage two is question marks, and stage three is good country. So, like, in your view here, is posting on Reddit not an apathetic gesture? Like, is that a citizen's action? No, actually, I think I'm trying to get you to demoralize me. So,
Starting point is 00:49:55 because I... Yeah, it's changed my view. Because I feel optimistic that if we just felt better, we can change the country. Now I'm here to you to get you to demoralize me so I don't feel this way. Tell me why this isn't a good idea. Come on, Internet.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Crush my spirit. Hey, cunt god Jesus nipple. Yeah. So much fun to say. You have a post halfway down this page. Yeah, I see one. Is that a response to Incruente? It's the one that starts
Starting point is 00:50:29 exactly, and I think. Oh. Okay. That's further down. I wish I could tell you what that's in response to, but it would mean trying to figure out how Reddit works. The fucking nested shit. Yeah. Oh, actually,
Starting point is 00:50:45 just following this line up, it's the, it's actually like the third post, it's from Incruent. Uh, of course. Yeah, it makes total sense, doesn't it? Yeah. Uh, okay, so my stuff's about
Starting point is 00:51:02 like military spending, military spending's pretty high, and yeah, that about military spending. Military spending is pretty high. And yeah, that's my point. Yeah, I'm demoralized already. Exactly. And I think it's up to the informed to get angry at the ignorant, demand things, progress to how they want. That's words.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Of course, there are a lot of people who don't want these things, but a lot of that is due in part to ignorance. And vagueness. Wow. That's more words. You want the world to be a better place? No, I don't think so. Yeah, you guys are stupid.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I don't know what the word better means, I guess. Not wanting education reform? Don't care. We need it. Don't want gays to get married? Don't care. that's the progressive thing. What am I saying?
Starting point is 00:51:49 God damn it. You think people just aren't aware of the correct way to have a country? No, he's saying, like, if you're progressive, you want things to change, so dog fucking? All for it, because that's liberal! Why not? Fuck me!
Starting point is 00:52:05 I wish we could figure out this country's shit. Maybe cunt God G's nipple will show up someday. Screw the whole gotta-respect-everyone's-beliefs mentality. Things in the U.S. are not ideal, and it could be, and idiocy is slowing that down, and I think hardcore ridicule will prove to be an important role in fixing what's wrong with the country. Oh, you stupid dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Public ridicule. What modern society really needs is a teenager with brain chemicals and half opinions. We need to bring back the stocks. Why did we ever get rid of those? Oh, God? All right. Let's see here.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So we're a ways in. So it's time for some choices. Some very harsh, harsh choices. Boots. Yes. As a citizen of canada uh i have two different opinions uh on how to improve uh the united states of america and uh you're gonna choose all right okay okay uh so uh change my view number one the usa should have one mega prison for 2.5 million of its in-voices. This is going to be a hard one to beat.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Or I think America is the worst place on Earth. I'm going to go with megaprison. Alright, megaprison it is. Yeah. So, let's have your view changed.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Your name is Star-Headed Crab. Some Judge Dredd level fun stuff yeah i'm star-headed crab and the usa should have one mega prison for all 2.5 millions of its inmates economies of scale will not only allow for immense cost cutting, which is needed if we're going to incarcerate so many people. Because buildings just get cheaper the bigger they are. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:13 They cut you a deal on materials. Yeah. And why not relocate all COs? Mm-hmm. But also just justify specialized programs example having college level education world class mental health care etc. available in the prison
Starting point is 00:54:33 why should the prisoners get something other Americans don't what was I didn't understand that parenthetical ok cool yeah this thing is more parenthetical than actual text seriously
Starting point is 00:54:50 a single framework could be better at allowing world's best practice among guards and other prison workers and may allow security to be consolidated I forget is prison overcrowding a best practice a world's best practice?
Starting point is 00:55:07 A world's best practice. Okay. If I say yes, will nobody punch me? Can't promise that. Yeah, especially if it's on an Alcatraz-type island. Of course! Of course, if the president crash-lands
Starting point is 00:55:24 there, you gotta send in, you know, Snoop Kliskin to get him back, and his deal, and it's all nasty. You know, the Escape from New York reference, well done. A 2.5 million inmate island. Yep. Jesus, that would become the second largest city in the United States. Yeah, significant separation from home will be comforting to families, and interstate mixing will help prevent local criminal syndicates from having any kind of presence in prison.
Starting point is 00:55:58 What? What? What? You heard me. By definition. There won't be any Aryans because there will be so many of them. There won't be any Aryans because they're all in one place. What?
Starting point is 00:56:12 They disappear. They collapse in on themselves like a black hole, which is the worst kind of hole for Aryans. Well, no, it's because you put enough guys in a big prison. You can't have the third street fritz or whatever. Oh, so you're saying there's going to be all the Aryan infighting. Yeah. I'll roll with
Starting point is 00:56:32 that one. Sort of like some Game of Thrones shit. Yeah. Having one prison also allows a meaningful comparison to be made between states and their laws. Does it? How so? Because I just said so. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:48 This shit's easy when you don't have to back anything up. Yeah, the only issue I could think of would be that visitation would be more difficult. That's the only issue. The only issue. If you can get past that, I think we should enact this. Other than that, it's prison utopia. But with video conferencing becoming widespread, that's less of an issue.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You could just Skype call into the prison. They have iPads in prison, right? Yeah, yeah, FaceTime. Hey, what you looking so happy about? Ah, it's Wednesday. Today is when I get my conjugal sext. Oh. Oh, yeah, get my conjugal sext. Oh. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 You worked on that one. Yep! It was about a minute. There's shit scratched off on a notepad underneath. Remember, this is a prison. Sorry, I'm allergic to my own voice. Remember, this is a prison. This is where you go after sentencing.
Starting point is 00:57:48 There's still room for temporary custody and other forms of detention. This is just an idea I had that is no doubt horrifying to some. Yeah, I mean... It's more befuddling than horrifying. Yeah, we don't think it's horrifying. It's a stupid idea. I mean, sci-fi authors have had the same idea you did for like a century, but nobody ran with it. Anyway, back to playing Arkham Asylum.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I want to know why it's a bad one. Edit. Not entirely convinced it's a bad idea, but I most definitely have to go back to the drawing board and come back with an idea of how it's going to work and some numbers to back up my claim. This doesn't change my view, this has revised my view. Alright, let's try three.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Does three work? Yeah, no, I like that idea of just like opinion first, numbers later. Okay, Isfahan, you also get to make a choice here. Okay. So option number one is I don't think trading card games are fair at all. Oh, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I don't think trading card games are fair at all. Oh, no. Okay. And the other option is the mark of an evolved human being is that they do not identify with their minds. The second one sounds pretty nutty, so I'm going to have to go with that. Yeah. I thought the mark of an evolved human being was figuring out the plurality of your sentence,
Starting point is 00:59:24 but I guess not. I can't even. I want to know where that's going. All right. My name is Ghost Chief MNT. Okay. Ghost Chief Monument. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:38 The mark of an involved human being is that they do not identify with their minds. And in parentheses, I put ego. Okay. Cool. Okay, cool. Essentially, if we examine the deepest causes of suffering, IG, which is a combination of IE and EG. That's like a super example here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Better. War, genocide, global terrorism. Yeah, it's like the Ig Nobel Awards. Yeah. Almost all of them stem from this habitual
Starting point is 01:00:11 and unconsciously held belief that we are each separate and unconnected from each other and all other living beings or to say in another way to live exclusively identifying ourselves
Starting point is 01:00:21 by the contents of our minds, second parentheses, ideas, emotions, etc. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Yeah. Okay, carry on. Pass the duchy on the left-hand side.
Starting point is 01:00:31 There you go. If we go on to examine our modern culture, another parentheses, sweatshops, factory farming, global capitalism, etc. Yep, yep, modern culture. We see this hidden factor of ego underlying all motives. That we, as a general society, live unconsciously to the consequences our actions have on others. Yeah, we sleep through it. Therefore, my point is that it would seem to me
Starting point is 01:01:00 the sign of an evolved species is one that lives conscious of its connection to each other and of their actions so as not to bring suffering to others. So, she's talking about empathy, and it totally doesn't already exist. Well, that's the problem with modern culture,
Starting point is 01:01:20 is that, like, you know, just modern culture is just, I mean, it's when we invented selfishness. Remember that? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That was really our downfall. It's a terrible idea. And then Ghost Chief Monument in the comments
Starting point is 01:01:35 goes on a while expounding on his belief. The more you read it, the less sense it makes. And then Bozoid asks, to be honest, it's still pretty unclear to me. Is this the idea of a philosopher slash thinker
Starting point is 01:01:52 slash author? If so, can you say who that is? I feel like I might have a better time reading a summary of his or her views than making you try to explain them in your own words. And do you have a response to that? This guy explains it way better than I can. Smiley face.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And then it goes to YouTube link. How to use non-identification with form to dissolve the ego self. So this is where the guy learned his rhetoric from, is to just word sell it up. Is this Kierkegaard? No, YouTube. Eckhart Tolle. Eckhart Tolle.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Alright. Older hunchback gentleman wearing a sweater vest. I think we probably have time for... Oh my god. Okay. I was going to say one more but then... Yeah. It's hard to stop with this one. Cheapskate has given us a wealth of amazing shit. Yeah, well, I mean, to be fair, Reddit really did a lot of heavy lifting.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Reddit is kind of the 2.5 million super prison of the internet. It's all in one convenient place. All right, ACR, here's your choice oh all right option number one crayon sharpeners are a huge scam damn all right all right that's gonna be hard to top that's really gonna be hard to top though what's up what's the other choice the other one is breaking up couples if you think one person is not good enough for the other is a moral obligation oh Jesus
Starting point is 01:03:32 that sounds like it's going to be a verbal obstacle course mhm fuck it let's do that one alright it's a little longer than we need so I'm going to give you this here your Your name is Singer in a Smoky Room. And
Starting point is 01:03:51 if you take the opening paragraph and then skip down to I believe after that, please. Alright, wow. That is a wall of text. Yeah. Alright. Presumably there's punctuation
Starting point is 01:04:08 in there, but... I see a couple periods. Yeah. This CMV is based on a hypothetical scenario in which you have a friend named Julie who is in a relationship with a man named Bob. Now, the actual genders, race, and sexual orientations, etc. of the people involved are
Starting point is 01:04:23 irrelevant. It could be about your friend. Hypothetical situation, huh? Yeah. Yeah. It could be Bob. I mean, your friend Bob dating a girl named Julie or your friend Bob dating a man named Alan or your friend Julie dating a girl named Ashley. Of course. Some very clumsy way to say they could be straight or gay.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It doesn't matter. Just for argument's sake, let's just go with your friend Julie, who's a straight girl, dating a guy named Bob. I guess he could be whatever. Now, I believe there is an additional reason to try to break up a couple, and that's if enough people think that one of the people involved is not good enough for the other. Public opinion? Is a good way to... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I'm going to lay it out. It's going to be scientific. Okay. Good. In this case, Bob would not be good enough for Julie if he's... Okay, so this would be like spousal abuse, repeated infidelity... No, no. but closer, closer. Closer furry?
Starting point is 01:05:30 No, you're closer though. Actually, if he's too short or too tall for her. No, okay. How about if he's too fat or too skinny for her? He could be too ugly for her. Alright, alright, alright. You're discerning, so he could be too ugly for her hmm oh alright alright you're discerning so if
Starting point is 01:05:48 he has too poor a fashion sense for her or if the thought about him fucking her just makes you physically ill and keeps you up at night right nope nope that's nope that's okay oh nevermind that's not what I meant if that applies to enough people then yeah they can just break them up.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I think you could probably squeeze that under a subclause of too ugly, but I'm not a lawyer or anything. But lastly, and now we're getting a little bit more rigorous, if he doesn't make enough money for her, that's a reason to break them up. We're in a true force loneliness situation here. Something tells me Singer in a Smoky Room has just come back with a sad story. Now, they massed too fat for you. In other words, if enough people think Julie deserves better than what Bob has to offer,
Starting point is 01:06:38 then it's perfectly okay for them to try to end her relationship with him so that she can find someone better. It's one thing if one of Julie's friends has an opinion on Bob. But if, say, most of her friends feel a certain way about him, things would be different.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Of course, Julie might disagree and say she's fine, but, you know, women... Women who are in relationships when they're actually unhappy will often say that because they have no wills of their own. You'll see this quite often with women in abusive relationships.
Starting point is 01:07:05 They'll form attachments to their abusers. That wasn't one of your criteria in the list above. Ah, shit! It was all superficial shit in the list above. Curse you, list behind, you got me on a loophole. Ooh, view change.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Success. They're unable to form an objective opinion. Now, of course, being too short or too ugly or too poor isn't as bad as abusing your girlfriend. But just because Julie says she's happy doesn't mean that staying with Bob is the best thing for her. What do you think? I just – I like – so one of the things that's pretty amazing about Reddit is that it's popular. I don't understand. But another thing that's amazing to me is, so there's that upvoting thing, right?
Starting point is 01:07:55 So the more times something's upvoted, it crawls up the top, right? And then you get the, that's the best thing, right? And so the best change my view is a guy that quotes like an entire paragraph and goes, wow, just, I mean, really? Yep. Like, yeah, bird! Good job, motherfucker!
Starting point is 01:08:18 Contributing to this conversation. This conversation isn't worth having, but we're having it anyway. And so many people agree. 32. 32. Okay. Now you get to choose one for me.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And I can't imagine which one you'll choose. All right. Option number one. I consider metal the most overrated genre of music out there. Change my view. Hi, Jack Chick. I was thinking it, but not saying it. The other option.
Starting point is 01:09:01 This might sound mean, but I love Asian girls, and yet I worry if I have a family with one and have a boy, he may grow up to have a small penis. That one. Yeah. Oh, you want that one, do you? Oh, okay. I didn't see that one coming.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Well, I guess I'll read that one then. So, my name is Nonconformist the Third, or maybe Nonconformist Cubed. Yes, and if you watch enough Asian porn, this starts to get implanted into your head, I swear. But if I had a girl, then that girl would be so perfect. That's creepy. Please don't flame me. Not stereotyping, but just going off Asian porn
Starting point is 01:09:48 Which could not possibly be stereotyping Yeah, maybe you should go off Asian porn Maybe I'm always going off to Asian porn Is that what you mean? No Whatever, just do what you want If you have another opinion and have seen a fair amount of Asian dick,
Starting point is 01:10:09 then you may be a woman or gay. If you have a different stance, then please elevate me. I would rather not have this opinion, so just be up front. I think it's a valid fear. It's not as if I have any issues down there, so I know it wouldn't be that small, but I still worry. On the flip side, the IQ would be higher.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Here is some proof! I'm not stereotyping. And I have links of proof. Proofity proof proof proof. Global post, huh? Wow, reaching high. And then V-Sprack.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Butch, if you'll take that, please. V-Sprack? Yeah. Could I, before you do that one, can I just read the thing at the very top of Garn Teller? Just the first line. Please, yeah. Okay, this is in quotes. Honey, I love you. We are a perfect match. Love being together and share all the same values.
Starting point is 01:11:08 But before I propose, I need to ask you something. Have you ever seen your dad naked? And if so, how big was he? Okay, I'm done. All right, well, that was a fair one to get upvoted. Good job on that one, Reddit. Yeah, I'm V-sprack. Porn is
Starting point is 01:11:25 not equal to reality. Also, maybe don't fetishize Asian women? I don't. I actually really enjoy different Asian cultures, and I learned some Mandarin for a year. I go after personality
Starting point is 01:11:41 and looks, not just looks. Mostly Asian looks, not just looks. Mostly Asian personalities. And Asian looks. Vulvis, Ace here. Vulvis has some additional science to put in here. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my sister dated a white guy for over four years, and he had a small dick.
Starting point is 01:12:04 He didn't know what to do with a clitoris. Never had an orgasm. But she still loved him. Now she's dating an Asian guy and she said his dick is about nine inches but she still doesn't have an orgasm. Okay. This is what you're talking about on Reddit today. Alright. Cool. I've only slept with girls and I've always
Starting point is 01:12:19 finished. What the fuck? I don't know. I put quotes on it. It must have meant something. I still don't know what this is. I guess I came. Alright, go me! Yeah! I have a point to make here.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Let me get to the point. Dick size doesn't really matter. You can pleasure a girl without even having a dick. Now, I also don't believe dick size and race have anything to do with each other. I think it probably has something to do with the geological location. I don't know. What?
Starting point is 01:12:53 Environment and food and the effects on the human body. That's like science talk. I'm not a scientist, but that kind of makes sense, right? What an incoherent mess that was. But Nonconformist 3 understood it better than I did. I concur! That's a great point! You did always finish.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I never thought about that. That's true. Your sister didn't come. didn't come. I just want to summarize here with what before the F plus tells you what they learned, I, nonconformist
Starting point is 01:13:34 cubed, want to tell you what I learned. Okay, don't get me wrong. If I fall for a woman and want a family, the last thing that would stop me is penis size of a son. The last thing. That would be the last thing. That's why you made a thread me is penis size of a son. The last thing. That would be the last thing. That's why you made a thread about the penis size of your son.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Right, yes, correct. Changed my view. It's just a thought about genetics and how things work. I guess this post is really hard to disprove. Ooh, well, look at you. Whoa. How come we don't have a way of making the much-needed dick size change, but we can grow livers and such in labs with stem cells?
Starting point is 01:14:10 That certainly would be a goldmine if we could do a little genetic enhancement. Enzyte and penis pumps would lose stock price overnight! Hooray! Hooray! I think he's got some predilections here. This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. Oh, I'm sorry. Did my change my view
Starting point is 01:14:33 stump you all too hard? Yeah. Yeah. Let the sun shine. So, F+, what did we learn from all this? No, fuck you. Fuck you, Closing Thoughts.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I have an opinion that needs to be stated. Yeah, what's your opinion? Yeah, my name is... My name is MarchinGarrix69. Oh, this one is not about the sorting hat. Fuck, I hoped it was going to be about the sorting hat. No, I vote a sorting hat one for Kumquat. All right, all right. He's not here. hoped it was going to be about sorting hat. No, I voted sorting hat one for Kumquat. Alright, alright.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Instruments are stupid and obsolete. Ties in nicely with the dubstep one. Instruments have such wild limitations compared to normal composition programs that I think they're obsolete in the modern musical
Starting point is 01:15:24 world. They have imperfection. You can't control the frequencies of the sounds you're making as well. What do you think notes are, idiot? They just fucking happen. People just like wiggle their fingers around.
Starting point is 01:15:40 People will spend years learning how to make a single sound instead of all possible sounds. When you play an instrument, you're a drone, an automaton playing someone else's piece. As opposed to you and your keyboard or whatever. Yeah, it's like being a soldier versus being the president. Sure, it takes a lot of work, but it's a waste of talent. Say that, soldiers! You've just been told!
Starting point is 01:16:05 So it's an argument, like, unless you're a composer, you're not musically talented. Well, is that what he's saying? Well, he's saying, like, instruments are stupid, why don't you just make your own music? He's saying two things. Istvan's got one of them. The other is that unless you are making all possible sounds, you're not using all of your potential. Well, that's why we invented dubstep. The other is that unless you are making all possible sounds, you're not using all of your potential. Well, that's why we invented dubstep.
Starting point is 01:16:31 It's all possible sounds at once. And the most upvoted response goes, I played the trombone. Me too, All about you! Alright, now, F+, what did we learn from all this? None of these people really wanted to change their opinions. Well, no, yeah, I knew that going in. It's like I said, most people just want to state their opinions and watch other people try and beat their head against the wall, I guess, trying to change it. Yeah, it's a forum specifically for smugly stating opinions.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Go ahead. Change my view. It should be called Change My View if you can. Your move, creep. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there needs to be like a dirty, hairy picture of it. It's
Starting point is 01:17:21 kind of a little surprising. Like the amount of... It's kind of a little surprising. The amount of... Because I noticed that the document that Cheapskate put together was just... It's all the opening argument. He did none of the responses. And so I was like, oh, let me try to mine some of that out there. And there's fun to be had.
Starting point is 01:17:41 But fucking nobody even tries. And that's kind of, I mean, a little bit confusing in, like, a gimmick forum set up specifically for this purpose. Yeah. Is that, like, the whole point of it is to do this, and, like, the discussion is, is like just as contentious as you would have in any other fucking forum where it's just like no no uh uh no yeah I think
Starting point is 01:18:15 well reddit's a very web like it's got a very internet user base and they kind of probably understand that. The same thing we understand is that nobody's really here to change views or to have their views changed. But it's kind of a place where I think there's a social contract that kicks in that people just say, okay, I'm going to have this stupid opinion and you all can get the satisfaction
Starting point is 01:18:40 of railing against it and everybody has fun. That's what I'm really getting from this. But, like, railing against it amounts to entirely just, well, I have this opinion. Well, these posts are so... It's the typical way that internet people argue. It's not actually about arguing. It's just by stating your opinion more loudly.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Yeah. Well, if you notice in, like, the posts we read, some of them are long but almost none of them have any content it's all just fluff nobody's actually making an effort
Starting point is 01:19:15 to have an argument do you think maybe at one point there was like do you think maybe at one point there was a golden age to the subreddit where like no we're talking on relative terms here oh okay where people were sincere i don't know yeah where there was where there was at least a little bit of does anybody actually want to bother finding it god no no no. Exactly. No. Well, the problem is, the way I see it is, if you're... Yeah, I came to Reddit for intelligent discourse, thanks.
Starting point is 01:19:49 If you're going to change my view, and you say, okay, I'm going to change some people's views, I'm going to put out all these salient points, and people are going to see things my way, and, you know, we're all going to be better. The first few times you realize that the people you're expending all this effort on just aren't going, they're not really caring about what you have to say then you just either leave or then you just join them
Starting point is 01:20:10 there's something I did want to add though they have this delta system, these triangle things so like so if somebody successfully changes somebody's mind then the original poster has to say this this person changed my mind! And a bot finds it and gives them
Starting point is 01:20:27 a special magic point, so they get this triangle that appears beside their name. Oh, interesting. In the case of that Chinese, the, do Asians have smaller dicks? Somebody said, here's some genetics, and the guy said, cool, you changed my mind! And the first guy's like, alright, give me a point! Alright,
Starting point is 01:20:44 have a point! So it's resorted, this isn't really an argument so much as it's arguing to get magic points so you have the biggest score. Oh, yeah, no, it's just internet chivos. Well, that makes so much more sense. See, that's what I was saying. The people did not really, they're just having fun with it. They're careful points.
Starting point is 01:20:59 It's like reverse QI. Yeah, I think that there's, I think actually that just like in the internet's browsing of just sort of every human being, like this kind of has to be a phase. I mean, I remember like a lot of my first interactions was, you know, dial up BBSs. And that's all that was is just like
Starting point is 01:21:24 just people fucking just yelling at each other all the time. Um, and I think that there's a point where you think to yourself that I like my opinion louder is going to inform myself. Uh, and then you just realize that's wrong and you move on. Um, and then for a while you just like want to watch other people fight each other and then that gets boring. And then you go to Ball Pit! That's B-A-L-L-P! I had a thing for that. Save it for next time. If you consider metal the most
Starting point is 01:22:00 overrated genre of music out there, come to Ball Pit! There's somebody there who will change your view. He won't be doing it with his tongue in his cheek. Yeah, the website, THTFBL.US. Follow us on Twitter. Sometimes that's good. And hit the flatter button
Starting point is 01:22:16 because that's nice too. Bye-bye. But I can change, I can change, I can change, I can change I can change, I can change, I can change If it helps you fall in love In love I can change, I can change, I can change, I can change I can change, I can change, I can change If it helps you fall in love. It's not possible to make a rational argument for why someone shouldn't be a brony.
Starting point is 01:22:55 There we go. I heard a laugh from the other room. Bonus bump laugh.

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