The F Plus - 281: I Want That Inside Me

Episode Date: June 1, 2018

Biohack.me is a place for "grinders". That's a word with many definitions, but to the forum community at biohack.me, a grinder is someone who cuts themsleves in order to stick something in the wound, like a magnet or a USB stick. As you might imagine, this episode is a bit intense, and I think we came close to making one our readers pass out. So just know that going in. This week, The F Plus regrets clicking on the image links.

I gotta admit, that's kind of funny because that guy's coming on the bus every day and he's super smug like, I'm just sweating my elbow You're just about to find out how smug this guy is The biohacker, whose legal name is Meow Ludo Disco Camera Meow Meow Citizens, you're finally free to listen to the F Plus podcast.

It's a terrible place. There's terrible things. They're red with enthusiasm. In the room tonight, we have Frank West. I don't know what the perfect non-gendered genitals would look like if they would be for waste or play and all that. So I'm open to all ears out there. But the male testicles are certainly less than useful at some times.

Nutshell Gulag! If you are thinking about sculpting some nubbins, make them nubbins de dentata. Star of about a hundred podcasts you should listen to. This is Ironicus. Mistake number five, not knowing when to call it quits. Boot train gear. Honestly, I would love an excuse to put sensors

on my forehead or somewhere on my face. And lemon. Here's some ideas that some people have it wrong. Hot glue is not a bioproofing material. Vodka is not an effective antiseptic. Hot glue is

bioproofing. It's clearly not. You just said so. Hot glue is bio-proofing! It's clearly not. You just said so. Well, now I'm backing up on it now. The more I think about it, the more I think I'm wrong. The fuck? Hey, F+. Hey, Lemon. Hey, so how is everyone feeling today?

Great. I feel like I could be a little more magnetic. Magnetic? You mean like in personality, or what are you going for there? No, like I attract metallic objects to my body. Oh. I never lose keys, I guess. All right. You're just going to put this intro on the goddamn expressway, aren't you?

Yeah, then we do one reading and then what did we learn? Hi, Lemon. Fuck you. Get to it. Well, all right. Yeah. lemon fuck you get to it well alright yeah so to that so to that end I'm going to

introduce us all to a document given to us by the heavenator and let's see what does that say there the lesbiathon lesbiathon a document given to us by the Heavenator and, let's see, what does that say there? The Lesbiathon. Lesbiathon! And it's a site called biohack.me.

Now, there was some other contributors to this document. It seems like this was a ball pit work in the making. Other contributors Yavu Sonsalim, Dujan Dujour, Algal Funk, and Frank West. So Frank West, you were part of this. Can you tell me what they're using the term grinder but not that grinder.

So what is this? What is this? So I actually was the one who found this site and then we all sort of posted links at each other. So some people really like sci-fi and want it to be real, and they want to be able to, like, be a cyborg. And at some point, like, a decade ago, someone realized that if they cut open their fingers,

they could sew in magnets into their fingertips. Okay. I mean, I don't know that that makes you a cyborg, but okay. Well, and then they were like, well, now I can pick up paper clips, and I can feel electric. Like a cyborg could. I can feel electromagnetic waves,

and it's kind of cool. And then they were all like, it's the future. So they all cut open their fingertips. Oh, wow. Okay, great. Wow, that's, I mean, yeah. Like, the future is slightly more efficient clerical work. That's terrific.

Yeah, so... The important thing is, doctors won't do this, so they're all doing it for themselves. Why not? I don't understand. Okay. So, yeah, we're going to spend... What do you mean, elective? We're going to spend our entire episode here on forum.biohack.me.

So it seems like a fun forum. There's a lot of smiling faces. So that's good. So if you'll start us off, nutshell, if you'll start us off with Unlucky Strikes, please. Hi, my name is Unlucky Strikes.

And so I discovered a trick with my Firefly earlier this week. Little backstory first. I have a very hard time feeling if I am dehydrated. I just don't feel the usual stuff that people feel when they don't have enough hydration. One thing that always works is the skin pinch test. Given that I have my Firefly in a relatively shallow placement in my hand, I noticed that the lump created by the implant is a bit more visible when I am actually low on fluids.

Now, it's nothing major, but it's kind of neat to be able to just look at my hand and see what's going on. I did the pinch test a few times over the week to see if it synced up with my observations, and sure enough, this got me kind of curious to see if anyone else has any gimmicky perks that were not the original intent of their implant. has any gimmicky perks that were not the original intent of their implant. So, sorry, I just looked up a Firefly tattoo implant is a glow-in-the-dark

subdermal lighting? Yeah, it looks like it's an LED that you inject into, well, I say inject, you jam a screwdriver into your body. And then you put in

a very small LED, and the result of that is that you have a very small LED under your skin. The future. Really self-evident. I can't imagine that the battery lasts too long, but... No, if I remember correctly, they wear out after a year or two, and then you've got a knot lit up.

Oh! That's even better. You know how you're always losing the back of your left hand? Well, let's keep going. Ironicus, if you'll take a fire-breathing reptile here on the same thread. Yeah, since I implanted my Firefly V1 in the back of my hand, it's become my default to move it back and forth when I don't have anything to do with my hands. It can move about 1.5 centimeters, and it's a good time killer.

I guess that's probably safe, I guess. I mean, I guess. It just rattles around inside my body. And Frank, you're Zerbula? I'm Zerbula. V2 Firefly Rattle.

It lets me act like a venomous snake and let people know i am irritated and threatened haha tell what the hell that is is it supposed to be a kissy face or i think it's a kissy face okay also v2 firefly is a sizable enough implant to really freak out conspiracy theorists. I had an older gentleman approach me, explaining, the government is out to crush us all. They are chipping us in hospitals.

You don't know what medical technology is capable of. I do. They are tracking us with GPS, etc. Kind of made my Firefly poke out of my face a little and told him politely, I know a bit more than you think. Okay, that's kind of funny. Now I understand why you did this. I would have gone the other way with it, though. I would have been like, I don't know what you're talking about.

Who told you about this? Please give me all information. Come with me, sir. It's in his face, and he uses it like a rattlesnake when he's – is he just like going – Yeah, yeah. He's like a big old sheepdog head shake. Oh, he's clearly threatened. I should back away.

Yeah, but if a person walks too close to his path, he's just – That would work. close to his path he's just that would work i'm sorry a half calf mocha all right uh moving to another thread here this thread and this is a flashback to a episode from quite a while ago this thread is called skin Pockets. Skin Pockets. We go back to the Body Mod episode, which is like 90-something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is... My name is Salmanahai. Salmanahai.

91, by the way, was the frenulum episode. So I've hit on a bit of a change of plans. I can't seem to get good sound quality out of my transducers so i have a slight variation on my previous idea basically i want to run the wire subdermally but i want a skin pocket i can slide things into yeah an induction loop would be on the outside flap, and so I'd just slide the electronics in, make it nice and easy to upgrade slash switch out with actual earbuds when I want to. My question is, how should I go about creating these pockets? Right now, I'm assuming the best way is to use some sort of inflatable implant to slowly stretch the skin behind my ear

before folding it over, slicing and stitching it in place. Ah. Ah. That's a... I can think of worse ways. I don't know if that makes it the best way. I'm just saying the skin behind your ears is, like, so delicate. I would really kind of stretch it.

Well, so that's my thing. Yeah. When I found out that it was the ears, I was like, well... But that's my thing. When I found out that it was the ears, I was like, well, that's a weird place, but I can't actually think of a better one. My main worry is that the stretch skin would die or stretch back out of place, destroying the pocket. That a valid concern?

Probably. Among many. Yes. Is it the only one? Honestly, should I have any concerns? No. As a side note. No, they're free, man.

As a side note, I've been wondering about whether it's possible to use other materials to bind with the skin. Specifically, I want to make a small inset in my side, line it with some biocompatible material, and have the skin grow into it, anchoring it in place. Then just to cap it off with a

flexible something or other. Oh, it's good that you've got every single bit of this worked out in your head before you try it. Biocompatible material like clean enough plastic. Eh, that'll do. A flexible something or other, such as a pipe

cleaner. Very good idea. Thank you for contributing. And you can stick things in there. Is this possible, or does it have to be skin covering us? Sometimes you go to the pool, and you want to have your keys still on you. That's what piercings are for.

So when I go to the YMCA, I want to swim naked, but I still want to have, I still want to have the key to my locker. Well, that's why in the first comment, Director X says, I like the idea. It seems very practical. We're going to move away from skin pockets and into another topic called thigh magnets. That sounds like something that conservative Republicans would come up with.

That'll keep our thighs together. Oh, very good. I like that initiative. I mean, well, it's just a pilot program, but like, I don't know, 20 million? Does that sound all right? Abstinence and magnets only. Yes. Yeah, but the kids will figure out a way to turn the magnets around.

She can't keep her legs together at all. Oh. So then you just put her on the gymnastic squad. You know, it's perfect. I don't think that would be a perfect gymnast. A perfect landing. Ooh. Anyway, my name is P underscore cream her.

And let me start out by saying, what? What? You don't like my name? P underscore cream her? Say it again. See if she does it again. Okay. Okay.

P underscore cream her? I feel like you're warming up to it, actually. Hi, Lemmy. Let me start out by saying that I have zero experience with magnet implants and only... What? I mean, it's embarrassing. I came to you from a point of weakness and vulnerability. Anyway, I only really think about concepts.

I'm a big idea guy. I've just been mulling over the idea in my brain for a little while. I don't want to bring out the whole why carry a gun. Concealed carry isn't necessary argument here. Oh, no. So, P. Creamherr, what's your favorite scene in RoboCop? I think. Whoa. cream her what what's your favorite scene in robocop i think whoa i did not realize that there was a trapdoor spider in this post

words words words look i don't want to talk about whether i should do this. Let's just talk about, let's do it. Let's just talk about doing it. Okay. I just want to talk about the feasibility of this type of implant. Anyone ever notice that most cargo pant shorts are of suitable height and width to fit a handgun in? With the right positioning, flaps, and Velcro connectors, it is quite easy to slip your hand into the pants and draw a pistol. If you're Plaxico Burris, it goes less well for you. But, uh, come on, I did a sports joke.

Look at your audience. Wrong audience. Sorry. Is that Hannibal Burris' brother or something? Maybe, I don't know. Is that Hannibal Buress' brother or something? Maybe, I don't know. Anyway, one problem, however, even lightweight handguns tend to flop around in the pocket and sag in your pockets, making this method of carry impractical. I had an idea once to design a leg strap with magnets to hold the gun closed to your leg through the pocket. What?

This is very elaborate. And secure it for vigorous movement. But I haven't really gotten around to it. A strap still may be the best option for this, but after recently discovering the world of bio-hacking, I wondered if it was possible to have two magnet implants

on one's thigh large enough to be able to support a pistol by attaching it in two places to the side of the pistol. Why don't you, why do you need the strap at that point? Just fucking, just stick the thing on there like a refrigerator magnet. Just an idea. The magnets would need to adequately support the weight of a 35-ounce with limited movement, but not so strong as to pull out your skin every time you pull your gun. Why not just put the magnet in your pants? It's like a form of gun control. If you're going to shoot somebody, you have to really want it, right? Rip! Oh, yeah!

You thought the ripping Velcro noise was bad? Don't know if it would even work well enough to justify limited surgery. And they have a bunch of opinions. Some are pro, some are con. But then the last guy in here, Random Jedi-ness, recommends instead of the thing that you want to do, why don't you do the exact same thing but on your back? Yes, because it's not like your spine is used for anything.

No. Either way, you're constantly getting stuck to chairs. Clack. Oh, you're robbing me? Let me just stretch my arms. I'm so tired. Oh, no, I'm very afraid. I'm also itchy.

I'm itchy and afraid. Nutshell, or sorry, Ironicus, what do you want to talk about here? My name is Pink Penguin, and I wish to speak about body holes. Okay. We've all got lots of them. There are two bones in the forearm, ulna, and radius. There is a gap between the two. Can one surgically implant a spacer between the two, making a view hole through the arm? All while not rendering the hand detrimentally unusable?

Sure, go for it. Just dig around in there. Just get a Phillips. Just start digging around. And if at any point it hurts, stop. It is not a piercing. Arms are not filled with anything except jello. Have you ever seen a skeleton?

There's two bones and there's a space in between them. That's a great point. That's a super good point. There's all this pink shit in the way. I believe it can be done. The purpose of said hole is the hole itself. It's a self-actualized armhole. As for the

pain, I can take it. It may hurt more than anticipated, but that's the priced one must be willing to pay for the results one desires. Jesus God. Been in contact, arm, wrist, hand surgeons Throughout the country

They all aggy It can be done Yeah, you could put a hole in your arm, I guess I'm sorry, who is this? But not without the loss of range of motion And hand functionality Both of which I'm willing to pay Sacrifice for the sake of.

Okay, okay. So you're willing to disable yours, though. That's how important this armhole is to you. Like, yeah, I'll lose motion in my hand, but, like, you know, balance it out. I'll be able to, like, be like, hey, check this out, and then hold my arm in front of my eyes and look. Well, I can't hold it up to my eye level anymore, but if I could, I could. Yeah, it would be so cool,

because I would do that at the bar, and then the other guys at the bar would go, huh, that would be amazing. Yeah. I will have my hole. Also, the end justifies the means. Also,

I like the idea, because like, so like the way the bones work, is if you turn your arm, they sort of turn around themselves, like this. Yeah. Like,

he's like, how you doing, Pink Penguin? And he just like, sticks his hand out forward, and puts his thumb out sideways. Like, what are you doing? He's like, well doing pink penguin he just like sticks his hand out forward and stubs his thumb out sideways like what are you doing as well it's a thumbs up but i can't turn my i can't turn my arm this way anymore since i got the hole in my arm i think i think eventually i think eventually you'll get tired of just the hole itself and then you can

fill it with like a kaleidoscope apparatus or a delicious cream filling the purpose of the whole is the cream itself i am now bavarian hey nutshell uh your name is dan fox davies uh you're gonna post here in genetic and biology based mods uh what do you mods what do you want to share with us? I say hello I am a member of the furry fandom with a particular interest in the research and creation

of an open sources method to quickly biologically and physically fill a genetic medium transform an adult human into a hybrid of human and animal with an anthropomorphic animal appearance

or zoomorphic human or furry or anthro for the benefit of the ability of all people to achieve freedom of form the idea being that such research would have other freedom of form, the idea being that such research would have other freedom of form applications.

Once I've researched enough into this and developed the method in a way which works flawlessly in simulations, I intend to use it on myself and for many of my interested friends to be able to use it on myself and for many of my interested friends to be able to use it on themselves too. All therefore

self-experimentation. I intend to ensure the method in question is completely opened up to be available to all on the internet ever. Due to the likely contentions surrounding the issue I will be keeping the development stages under wraps if possible.

However, at the moment, I am in a call center job and have very limited funds. I would therefore like to know if there is anyone here who can point me to someone willing to sponsor such an undertaking who is not connected to a governmental or military organization. I want the other thing. help further the core efforts. I would also like to know if this community itself would be willing to get involved in this. Thanks. Thank you. So that post from August of 2012, the thing that struck me was just like,

hey, do you remember folding at home? Like, do you remember that there was a time in our internet's history where people said like, oh, I have extra processing power on my computer i'm going to use it to help research rather than like inventing dumb fake money yeah i was gonna say it's still being used to further the common good the swift destruction of the environment. So, I wanted to learn... I was Googling this guy. I Googled his name, Dan Fox Davies, space Malatorra, just to see.

Because the timing of this is pretty fitting as well. Oh, sure. But I found his Wikifer article and I realized the notability is not a concern on Wikifer.com. Oh, that's good. That's good.

Well, in that case, that has always been our barrier to Wikipedia. They have repeatedly said the F plus is not notable. They have sold me personally the F plus is not notable. They have sold me personally, the F plus is not notable. So please,

if that's not a barrier on Wikifur, I think we should get an entry over there. How do you know we don't already? That's fair. I wouldn't know. One of us just needs to become a furry. Who do you nominate, Frank? I mean... Bear in mind, I'm touching my nose with do you nominate, Frank? I mean...

Bear in mind, I'm touching my nose with my pointer finger right now, so... Whomst among us will take that bullet for the podcast? Gosh, please don't throw me in that furry briar patch. Briar patch is full of pre-cum.

Hey, Frank. Hey, Frank. What do you got to talk about here? My name is Zombie Gristle, and I want to know what to stick in a prosthetic tail. Anything you can. I brought it. I built a cheapo prosthetic tail spine. It has yet to have the extensor slash flexor cables and servers installed.

And movement will be controlled by EMG pickups. I'm going to route a whip antenna along the spine, and I'm wondering what else could be put in there for the sake of function. He does mean the spine of the tail, right? Not like his own spine? Good question.

Probably? But I wouldn't put it past them. Any googling that I try to do gives me either that dolphin that has the prosthetic tail, or this thread, so. I went with a tail because I still have all my natural

limbs, and that's the most readily apparent extra limb that most mammals other than humans possess. I don't feel like removing one of my hands at this point. Maybe another time. You know, I made a Pinterest board, but it's just something I think about. Taser would be cool.

Or a scorpion stinger full of venom. Or rum. Or both. That would be really cool. Like a mix of Ritalin and Tylenol. Some rollerblades. An umbrella. Document once again provided by a number of people, including the Heavenator and the Lesbiathon.

And they point out that there's not as much dick stuff as you would have guessed. But to that end, this section is called This Section is About Dicks. Yay. There's a little bit of it. There's one called the Lovetron 9000. It's pretty long, but I'm just going to give you

this little part. I know they gave you a warning not to click on the images, but there's a few of these that goes double. Oh, okay. All right. The Lovetron 9000

is one of the characters you can recruit. Oh, close tab. Yeah, the Lovetron 9000 is fine, the characters you can re-crypt during the night. Oh, closed tab. Yeah, the Lovetron 9000 is fine. And then you start scrolling and then it's not fine anymore. Yeah. Anyway, so the Lovetron 9000 is a subdermal... I'm going to implant a vibrating subdermal implant just above my meat straw.

Ugh, I'm a human bone. What, you use it to drink milkshakes? Yeah. Brings all the boys to the prison yard. This means I will continue to be the world's greatest lover. It is a crown that I promised to wear with your humility.

Here's what I am working with for components. So bear in mind, this is a crown that I promised to wear with zero humility. Here's what I am working with for components. So bear in mind, this is a thing that I'm putting in my pubic region above, as unfortunately I saw a photo of, above the penis, right? That's not just a photo, that's a video link. Yeah, these are the components. Right at the base of the hole. Yeah, just right up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's what I got.

Three-volt micro-vibration. That's it. Motor hacked from an Oral-B pulsar toothbrush. Oh, nothing but the best. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm glad you mentioned that because I agree. Nothing but the best. Next, plastic straw.

Next, PVC, question question mark from a disposable for motor housing why do you think big pens are made out of pvc do you think people do plumbing with big pens pvc plastic people are so very attached to in both a literal and metaphorical sense, he surely is treating it in a very cavalier fashion. Yeah, well, I've also got an induction coil. Act out of another broken motorized toothbrush. Solder and soldering iron.

I hope that's not all going in. solder and soldering iron. I hope that's not all going in. Did he catch his beloved, you know, using his motorized toothbrush for something and think this was the logical step? This is what I'll do to you! Then I've

got random bits of wire, parts of another Bic pen for an on-off switch, and... He chose Bic because itoff switch. And I'm almost done. I'm almost done. Junkyard Wars really went off the rails by the end. Quick Googling, Bic pens, the plastic material is actually polystyrene.

All right, well, that's why I said PVC question mark. The lowest quality plastic you can get so good i would assume yeah uh but last last last component here a hot glue gun what's yeah gotta seal it up some fuzzy bobbles on afterwards how else are you gonna get that skin back together and make all that blood stop happening? Anyway, this thread is called Magnetic Manhood. And Frank West, if you'll take this post here by Robson. I will, but before we move from that last post, I would just like to say that he expects it to only work for 15 or 20 minutes.

And therefore, it needs to be recharged. So he's plugging his dick in. Wow! Wow! Did he, like, run the cord along his thigh or something? No, no, no. Inductive charging. He's just gonna walk up to one of the

Tesla charging stations. Just hang out there with a cigarette. Hey, how you doing? He'll look like all the other guys just trying to fuck those machines. Nice day, isn't it? You know, making the world a better place. I think we're making the world a better place. It's real good.

Hey, how come you don't have a car? Don't worry about it. So I'm reading Magnetic Manhood, you said? Yes, yes. Your name's Robson. I'm Robson. I like the idea of implanting a magnet in my penis. Hey, that's great.

The nerve supply should be sensitive for sensing magnetic fields, and I think it would create a new realm of play possibilities, such as exploring the sensations of music played through an inductive loop. In a cunt, right? Oh, I don't have anybody else in my life. Okay, okay. All right, all right. I don't think you would find medic fields.

Okay, never mind, never mind. There are vibrators that basically you can, they're supposed to be like iPods where you can play music on them and the vibration adjusts its frequency accordingly or something. But can I put those inside me? So, Nutshell, when you're using the music vibrator, what do you like to play in there? I have no idea. No? Let's see. Garth Brooks, no?

Industrial noise. You're more of a Chris Gaines kind of girl, aren't you? Oh, boy. I need to drink my beer. My premise was rejected out of it. I think the frenulum would be the best location on this one, because of its sensitivity. Not to derail the conversation or anything. I am not sure what the optimal magnet to use would be, but I think that a silicon coating might be more comfortable

give the abuse this particular location is going to receive. Verbal abuse, right? I am sure that there must be people who have done this type of implant, but I have found only vague mentions, nothing concrete. Plenty on pearl beading, but not magnets. Has anyone done this? Know of someone who has? Or have any thoughts about the magnets' placement or procedure?

Dude. Dude. Dude, what does Director X think? Hi, uh, there are a lot of people who've had this done, actually. Using a notebook computer on your lap is supposed to be kind of nice. Hayworth also does these and calls them lover's magnets. I guess, I mean, it's going to be SSD, so you're not going to wipe your laptop. So that's good.

Just keep in mind, Director X is the person who had the last thing, the Lovetron 9000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you be surprised to know that he looks like Anton LaVey? Hey, yo, my name's McStuff! What's up?

Hold on. I's McStuff. What's up? Hold on. Adjust my... I'm McStuff. I have a PA, and I put a magnetic bead on it. The inertia of the barbell I was using mitigated a lot of the effect, I think. That aside, it was difficult to achieve significant movement. I held a power... You held something. I held a power... Ooh!

You held something. You held what? I held a power drill on the outside of my pants, and there was a, hmm, that might be it moment, but little else. Hardly a benchmark. This is worth pursuing, though. I didn't try much with different frequencies or stronger coils.

Chasmadai here, I bet that would give you a magnetic personality. Make it easier to attract opposites. Absolutely, if all your personality is located in your dick. You could call it your

Steely Dan or your Monster Magnet. You'd be a real sex magnet. I could go on. You could. Must do. I like a forum where somebody says PA and everyone obviously knows, like, that's a Prince Albert. Well, we all think it was.

I'd put a magnetic bead on all of Pennsylvania. I'd put a magnetic bead on all of Pennsylvania. I remember when we started looking at this website, I was like, huh, I wonder which one of these posters is actually Eli Roth. And I think I found him. Okay, so this section is called Very Bad Ideas. Oh, good. And it's the longest section in the document. Yay! Yay!

Okay, so I think we got a choice for you, Frank West. You got two options here. There's a post by Mail, and it is titled, Making the Human Body Stronger, Ellipsis, by Foreseeing it to Become Weaker First. The other option is a post by Reality Wizard

called Fiber to Push Through Meals. I want to know why the human body would be stronger by making it weaker okay great uh terrific so yeah your name is mail uh this was this was posted uh

in May 2017 okay so I've been thinking a lot about difference in muscle twitch types, 1 and 2, and how one can possibly train a certain way to gain a higher percentage of one type, and the possibilities of using RNA tweaks to promote the growth of one type. However, that got me... This sounds really good, yeah.

He's a scientist, is what he said. Okay, yeah, you're right. However, that got me thinking further into how we're still stuck with already formed muscular tissue of varying types, which led me to have this idea. Would it be possible to induce a controlled form of muscular dystrophy using RNA twins? What? Wow. What? Whoa! Okay. What? Yeah. What? Whoa.

Okay. With the MSTN gene, or introduce it through doses of myostatin, in order to sort of reset muscle growth in a controlled fashion. And then what, Control-Z? Well, no. Then you regrow it biologically

with the addition of either pure training for a specific muscle fiber type, more genetic enhancements using RNA, drugs, or perhaps even more permanent genetic tweaks since you'd essentially be growing new muscular tissue. Sure, yeah. Hey, I forget. I forget. Is there a cure for

muscular dystrophy? Which muscle fiber type is the heart made of? I think we need to consider that. Perhaps one could even test the modification of the PEPICCix gene which when modified in this

then skeletal muscle of mice to be expressed at a higher percentage resulted in those mice having increases energy and a height and metabolism due to them having increased gluleogenesis if this same tweak was induced in human skeletal muscle each either okay tweak tweak I just want to give myself a serious disease so I can be soft it's a cute word it would likely lead to the same positive effect

oh my god oh my god though I will admit this post is mostly speculative and a thought project at most. I'm wondering what you guys think of these ideas. P.S. Posting via phone at night, so if spelling or details

are off, that would be why. Okay, so they get into this conversation about how they'd have to do a ketogenic diet with this if they were going to do it. And Cassock says, yeah, I totally get it. I agree that with extreme low calorie,

you're going to go into proteolysis. But I think my focus would be on trying to get adequate amounts of vitamins, etc. We should look into various wasting diseases. For example, tuberculosis and AIDS and various failures to thrive. The goal would be to eliminate as much muscle as possible,

as quickly as possible, without any other adverse side effects. Something else to consider, look at the bodybuilders who have since stopped without training you rapidly lose your gains, so you can probably get an idea of what's coming. Lack of activity would probably also help. Being on bed rest. You'll be an invalid in no time! Okay, I'm not sure I agree with the basic assumption here, though. I'm gonna

go look into something. Hey man, nice gains. Yeah, I've been hitting the AIDS real hard. And then obviously giving myself un-AIDS on the weekend. For your cheat day. I just want to say that I copied the entirety of Mail's opening post there and just pasted it into an email and sent it to Victor. No subject, no context, just that.

So we'll find out. Maybe it's a good idea. Yay, Victor. Yeah, I kind of feel like we should send this episode to Victor and get him to do just a commentary track on it. He'd probably just be like, no, just no. No. Yes, that's what I want. One yay followed by a whole lot of sighs.

This post is called Cut Your Eyes. Short and to the point. My name is Nemo Grimes. This is not all science-y as the magnets. But it's rather functional and simple. You know the outside corners of your eyes? Cut them so they run about.5 centimeters longer.

Why? You get a larger range of peripheral vision. No. Meh, I did. Bullshit, you did. You get a larger range of peripheral vision. Meh, I did. Bullshit, you did. Yeah, I cut my epicathrofolds, and now I see better. That's why Asian people have a different center of vision. It's very science-y.

I mean, not magnet science-y, but you know. Very, very impressive and practical Biomod. Congratulations. That guy's the fave star of this website. Have you experienced any bad side effects? Well, my eyes are cut.

Okay, yeah. It's a little sketchy of a procedure, but honestly, I would not trust anyone else. The nature of the skin makes it easy to do in small increments. Oh, my God. So you can take a break and thus start again. He said he would post pictures, and I'm not sure if I'm sad or happy that he doesn't appear to have done so. The skin has few vessels

large enough to bleed, so it's relatively clean. Also, after the first cut is made, you can stretch or tear the skin back a bit more. This reduces the chance of cutting your eyeball, you twitchy motherfucker.

Only side effect noticed was when only I was done, aside from having one eye open wider, there was some cross-confusion in focusing. You know, when I took a goddamn fucking X-Acto knife to the side of my face and I wasn't done yet, I was confused. I was in a confused place.

I think, not qualified, that my mind would tense the muscles of the cut eye and the non-cut eye the same amount. Obviously same amount of muscle action on two different sized orifices. Orifices is not going to work. So I had to learn to squint one eye more than the other.

However, all problems went away after I cut the second eye. So how long did you go around squinting? Just one. Yeah, I couldn't. It was hard to gain the motivation to do that other eye. I mean, like, it was cool. It was cool. But, like, I was, like, halfway through, like, one of the Dead Risings, you know?

I just kind of wanted to work my craft book up a little bit. Honestly, I really only needed to see more out of my right eye, so. Remove eye. Boots, what did you find there? My name is Brandon King. Okay. Yeah. I want to talk about turning myself into a mobile Wi-Fi hotspot.

Standing up. Standing up. Oh, that's just, yeah. Yeah. I got a reason for this, though, and I get right to the point. Yeah. I really hate non-Wi-Fi areas. Sure. Yeah. Today I had about a good two hours of walking through non-Wi-Fi area to get home from a roller derby game I went to. Now I started thinking. I was wearing a utility kill. Thank you for asking.

Now I started thinking. If I can't turn the world into a giant mobile hotspot, can I at least turn myself into one? I think the answer is yes. Get a mobile hotspot from Verizon or AT&T. Yes, you will have to pay for the service, but it's not too expensive. I think like $15 to $25 a month. Slap on an inductive power supply and charge it while they see. Bioproof it and implant it, turning yourself into a mobile hotspot.

Is that all? Right. Sounds so simple. After I start getting a consistent income, I would like to build a prototype. What are your thoughts on this idea? Any suggestions, feedback, et cetera? I could put this thing inside of a backpack, but like how goddamn pedestrian would that be? So a really fun thing is that at a certain point we're reading this site you realize literally

everything could just be put it in a bag and carry it with you there's not a single thing they have bags are for plebes well and it's like it's not like he even like has a wi-fi hots because it's definitely not 15 i think you'll find that once you start supplying the public at large with wi-fi it's not gonna be 15 fucking dollars okay but he doesn't even have that well he's just like i'm gonna get that shit obviously just so i can jam it into my goddamn thighs so this this is a thread where people keep replying like why does it have to be inside you and and then brandon king replies says okay i'm prone to forgetting things. Ah! Okay, asked and answered.

Fair enough. Yeah, he says more, but it's not worth it. Honey, have you seen my car keys? Did you check your skin pocket? Oh, yeah. Thanks. Fuck. I sometimes forget to move my car keys back into the skin pocket, so I'm just going to get one of those finger keys. I like it when I jingle.

Oh, man. There's one here called magnetic teeth, and it reminds me of titanium teeth, but it's not nearly as good. Okay, all right. There's another one in the Very Bad Ideas section. It's not quite as good as I wish it was. It's titled Cancer Induction. Oh, great. cancer induction.

Oh, great. Yeah, so that is the very bad ideas section. I just want to take a moment here to thank Heavenator Endless Biathlon for this document and say, these documents are always really good. Thank you for putting together these well

formatted documents, and if you're looking for an example of a really just clean, nice document to look at, look at any of theirs because they're very good. But this section is called Botch Surgery, parentheses, warning, this is gross. So, oh. And you said we were past the very bad ideas section. Oh, yeah, we're past the very bad ideas, and now we're in the very, very, very, very bad ideas.

These are very bad implementations. Yeah, very bad implementations. Oh, God damn it. Ironicus, why don't you take that first one in that section? Brutal magnet removal. You might want to just read that out of the document here. I hear the photos are not to be looked at. Thankfully, he put them in a Google Doc,

which I will just... I'll just put it right here in the Discord. Alright, fantastic. Oh, well, I'm not going to click that. Oh, wait, never mind. Look, a thumbnail. A thumbnail and only a thumbnail. Oh, goddammit, Fuck you, you asshole.

Goddammit. You clicked on it. I did. Fuck you, Frank West. Brutal magnet removal. My name's Aixra. I gotless victory. So, for a little bit of background, last August slash September, I implanted three FDA2T coated magnets in my middle, ring, and pinky fingers, the last of which I posted a video of. However, recently, the one in my middle finger lost sensation and formed a small bump that appeared to have something grayish green under it.

Although it was not causing discomfort, I decided to remove it. Based on our recent post, I speculated that the bump was likely scar tissue and was therefore aware that I might have a difficult time. Unfortunately, due to life

things... Uh-huh, uh-huh, I've heard of those. I did not have time to procure proper supplies, i.e. a scalpel. Okay! It's the improvisation hour, that sounds good. And therefore resorted to sharpening and sterilizing an exacto blade. to sharpening and sterilizing an X-Acto blade. I put some isopropyl in the freezer,

wiped everything down with Clor-X, and eventually proceeded. I want to share a short personal story. Everything I'm about to say is true about my own life. When I was going off to college, and you have to get that meningitis vaccine, and to get the meningitis vaccine, you have to read a list of side that, that meningitis vaccine. And to get the meningitis vaccine, you have to read like a list of side effects of the meningitis vaccine. I nearly passed out.

And here I am today. All right. Well, you know, well, you know, good luck and everything. What do you think,

by the way, when he says, when he says words like sharpening and sterilizing and exacto blade, what do you think sterilizing means in his definition? Running it through a Bic lighter flame. If it's good enough for my heroin spoon, it's good enough for this. I put some isopropyl in the freezer, wiped everything down with Clorhex and eventually proceeded. I tourniqueted the finger in question with a hairband and stuck it in the cold rubbing alcohol as I had done when inserting the magnet. However, I may have overdone it this time due to nerves.

You're never supposed to tourniquet something unless you're willing to lose that something. Once my finger was numb, I sliced into the lump, finding a mess of gray stuff, and no clear indication of what was going on. Oh my god, oh my god! Turns out it was actually in my brain. I subsequently had to

expand the incision several times. Are you okay reading this? And dug around for quite some time. Ten-ish minutes. Oh my god. Alternating. Ten-ish

minutes. Alternating between the X-Acto knife and tweezers. Magnetic spheres I was attempting to use to pull out the magnet proved useless. And all I got were some odd bits of grey stuff. Well, you know what they say when they... There's a bunch of parts that are necessary in the body, but then there's a bunch of just

spare shit. Congratulations, you've created a real-life grey goo scenario. I liked it. I liked it. Try the grey stuff. It's everywhere in my fingers. Oh no. By this time

I was somewhat concerned about how long my finger had been without blood and was shaking from adrenaline and nervousness. Oh my god. Eventually, however, the extremely corroded magnet popped out. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Although all the corroded material had not been removed by any means.

Right. I decided to cut my losses and wrap things up, although I took a few photos, which will follow. Yeah, thanks a bunch. I bandaged the finger, cut off the tourniquet, and set about typing this.

Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! It's like when you wake up from a dream You just have to immediately write it down So you don't forget it However Even after checking to ensure the bandage Is not too tight The last third of my finger is slightly tinkly, and the wound has yet to become painful. I suspect that frostbite or damage from the extended lack of blood flow is possible.

However, since the rest of the finger seems to be fine, I don't think it's anything too severe. Oh, no, you're fine. It's fine. The rest of the finger seems to be fine. Seems to be fine? I don't think it's anything too severe. Oh, no, you're fine. It's fine. The rest of the finger seems to be fine. Seems to be fine. Like five minutes after he did this and is typing this out. Is there a follow-up to this? This has been quite an adventure.

He clarifies further down the thread that he had lost feeling in this finger a few weeks before he did this process. Oh, shit. All right. Well, yeah, just taking your opportunities where they arrive, then. I hope I may be of some use. One more week and I'm going to start being concerned about this. I hope I may be of some use as the example in what not to do. So one notable thing about the thread, I think. So a lot of the things we've read so far, there was always a lot of people like, why are you doing that?

No one does that here. This is normal. Oh, yeah, yeah. The thing happened to you, huh? Okay, that makes sense. The gray stuff? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you got some of the gray stuff.

Good job getting that shit out of your body, dude. That's got toxins in it. I mean, it didn't, but now it does. At one point, the OP here responds with, I have been washing it with saline, but it's not seemed to do much. I have been washing it with saline, but it's not seemed to do much. That's not a curative measure. The next section is called, Why Are You Even Here? And I think in a nutshell here, are you even here?

And I think in a nutshell here, this is a thread started in November of 2013 by SpaceMonkEye and you have a question you want to pose to the community of forum.biohack.me. What is that question?

My question is, why haven't we started a body modification religion? I mean, wouldn't that be the wisest choice to try and get religious backup in the future? I know right now there are procedures that would be illegal in the U.S. Imagine 20 years from now when people can implant lethal weapons in their arms. So why not back it with a religion like Copamism that has... DVDs? ...with spreading information.

Cough. Torrents. Cough. Human modifications of all kinds should be recognized as a sacred ritual used to expand the evolution of the human body and spirit. Human modifications of the spirit would include all forms of medicine, knowledge, personality, through practice of any religions, drugs, and reading. Human modifications of the body would include all forms of exercise,

implants, and replacement of body parts. Let me know what you think slash suggestions on what should be listed under religious practices slash how we could actually form a religion Jesus Christ can you just you know go out and take enormous amounts of peyote like other 20 something

white boy dabblers I like that I like that he specifically cites copimism, which is another jokey, flying spaghetti monster type religion, as an inspiration. Wouldn't it be cool if we were as legally recognized as these fucking guys? The like, yes, the pirate bay is my religion, guys. is my religion, guys. And then in the response, there's a couple people,

but Boots, your name's Lexiac in the responses. Yeah, my name is Lexiac. The major problem, at least IMO, is that you're purposefully alienating those not in the grinder faith. Grinding is faith agnostic. It should not matter if you believe in flying spaghetti

monsters or Superman or whatever the kids are into these days. That's what the kids are super into, yep. This was probably written in... Who cares? Well, yeah, yeah. That was the thing. It was the hottest trend that Asia Carrera got everyone involved in.

Fabled porn star Asia Carrera. Who notably does not do anal. Sorry. I listened to that episode just last week. Okay. There is a saying, never bring up religion or politics in conversation. I told the people I work with, said in their ways Bible-thumping Republicans, that I had magnets installed and they gave me a weird look. Asked a bunch of questions and then never judged me since.

If I told them I joined the church of sticking metal into my body, I probably would have been ostracized for all the same reasons that I don't tell them I'm an atheist. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yep. I do have to agree, though. Having a religion would really open some doors.

I'm just not sure that the benefits outweigh the costs. I think the big problem is there already is a grinder religion. It's all those people who really love that Rob Lowe show. It's a really good show. It was, yeah, it was a decent show. It was decent. Some of Fred Savage's best work. By the way, grinding is another word for biohacking

for people who didn't think it sounded cyberpunk enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not clear. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. I'm sure that there's a Riffs Companion book that refers to body modifiers as grinders um i think boots your meander paul please meander paul meander paul meander paul yeah not saying it was aliens I mean I think you are uh huh

uh huh title of this thread is not saying it was aliens ellipses so yeah I'm watching a show called ancient aliens and the episode is all about well

aliens and human augmentation slash transhumanism. They pretty much sum up everything that we do along with connecting it to aliens. They sum up. Wow, that's a good TV show. They actually sum up everything that's a good tv show they actually sum up everything that we do yeah they pretty much sum up everything that we do along with everything along with connecting it to aliens first first they're like hey humans okay so humans eat they also sleep they fuck once in a while similarly yeah they got a there's a cork board and it's got two pieces of paper.

One of them says aliens, one of them says humans. And there's a red piece of string that connects the two. No, no, no. Millions of red pieces of string between them. That is a really accurate description of the show, though. They're not wrong. Oh, really? Okay.

Anyway, the information and things they talk about, like fetus modding and nootropics. Is that a thing? Yeah, those are the ones that make you smarter. Oh, okay. Along with implants seem right. I think it's worth watching for some crash course info into transhumanism. Yeah, I may be a bit of an ancient astronaut believer, but hey, might as well enjoy the ride.

Can I just say how jealous I am right now of Boots for not knowing what nootropics is? Bastard. And Frank? I'm Cat's Evenstitch My husband loves Ancient aliens When my implant disappeared He suggested it was probably

The aliens taking it out Because they want to be the only ones Sticking microchips in us Bastards If they want to do all the implanting At least give us really cool sci-fi stuff. I've been wanting bionic arms since I was a kid.

I didn't think that's where that fucking post would end up. Hey, y'all. My name's Frank, right? Why are transhumanists such dicks hey hey y'all i apologize for the clickbait headline but politics and the philosophy of transhumanism was a bit of a snooze fest my post is indented weird um anyway i thought it was a poem newsfest my post is indented weird um anyway i thought it was a poem yeah i was gonna say it looks very poemy it starts short it gets longer every line i've been around it's not plus poem

i've been around and interviewed quite a lot of self-identified transhumanists in the last couple years and i've noticed uh many of them express a fairly stark ideology that is at best libertarian and at worst Randian. Very much, I want super bionic limbs and screw the rest of the world. Wait, what? Okay, okay. This is a weird form of Darwinism. I want super bionic limbs and screw the rest of the world. super biomic lemmas screw the rest of the world. They tend to brush aside the ethical, environmental, societal, social

and political ramifications of human augmentation so long as they get to have their toys. There's also a common expression that if sections of society are harmed by a transhumanist progress that's unfortunate but necessary for the greater good. The greater good

often being bestowed primarily upon those endorsing the transhumanism. Hey, that attitude isn't prevalent on this forum at all. I think this site tends to attract more practical body modelers than the theoretical transhumanists, but I wondered if anyone else had experienced the same attitudes in their own circles. What do you make of it? And then, Nutshell,

your name's Bird Machine? I've always felt that that's one of the things that tends to define the separations between gredders and transhumanists. Transhumanism seems to sprout from the top of society where money, time, and resources

are overflowing. Meanwhile, grinding is more of a roots-based effort where I see a lot of people aiming to broaden a shared pool of knowledge and lower the barrier of safe access to others. Hmm. Define safe. I feel like a lot of transhumanists are also already see themselves as more than human and start from a place where they already reassure themselves that

they're already at or near the top of humanity. Grinding, however, seems to start from being just human and building on that, grinding away and upgrading as new knowledge is shared and new techniques are forged, including actually doing that forging and research to bring new tools and technology to the community. Most of that being sippy straws and duct tape and a lot of hot glue.

Little glowing lights in the back of your hand that move around and drift like a poorly received IUD. Don't forget about that. Not just ourselves, the community. I think that's a poorly received IUD. Forget about that. Not just ourselves, the community. I think that's a big part of it. It's something I've definitely noticed and part of what puts me off on the former but draws me into the latter. And it

glims that opener right there is 100% wonderful. And, uh, Aaronicus, what do you got there? I'm Deus Ex Liber. Well, you can have extreme research that is ethical,

Frank. For example, if someone gives their informed consent to an extreme augmentation, then there is no ethical breach. At least in my opinion, I haven't taken classes in ethics. Okay, well that's my opinion too then.

Let's share that opinion. Hey Boots, I got something special for you. Oh good. Yeah, it's just for you buddy. Here you go. Yeah. What? Don't be sad. Oh yay. We're at forum.bio, buddy. Oh. Here you go. Yeah. What? Don't be sad.

Oh, yay. We're at forum.biohack.me. Yay. Okay. My name is background. Heart chakra. What cells are in here and repair-related hormones are in here? Hey, I need to repair my heart chakra about the heart chakra i'm sorry what uh i hope i hope the heart chakra yeah thank you thank you uh it is it is centered on the chest

lies at the start of the sternum i suspect a system of nerves separate to all to what system of nerves to lie at that exact point or somewhat lower higher probably you feel the need to define a heart chakra we all know probably related to the heart do not get into how odd this sounds unnecessary is unrequired Unnecessity is unrequired. Unnecessity is unrequired. Unnecessity is unrequired. Welcome to the F+. Unnecessity is unrequired. I need to know the name of natural hormones

which have to deal with the repair of the system. Also, I need to know the exact cells at that location. The technology required is unrequired to know. The technology to require is unrequired to know or be available for now. Could anyone help me out? Thanks in advance. There's more, but I'm realizing I got one little quick follow-up to this

yeah oh yeah i deleted half the post that's where the title went wrong excellent all right uh the very last section very very very last thing that we have here is called an assorted threads assorted titles of threads uh so we're just going to take this in order. This is just a section of some threads from forum.biohack.me. Starting off with, How much longer till brain failure? Swim's really stupid idea. Ignore if you hate stupid ideas,

you have been warned. Open source orgasmatron. Nice, nice, nice. Way to open source that shit, buddy. Orphan hack. Ooh. Ooh. Reverse age by plasma transfusion.

Become more oxygen effective. Weird anemia. Who is the grinder candidate, Trump or Clinton? Any opinion on designing surgical apparatus? Homemade steroid. Larger invisible implants and useless bones.

Two cyborgs and a microphone. Coming this fall on CPS. Botch the insertion. Does transhumanism have a fascism problem? RFID firearms. Post-human perversions. My stupid DIY magnet implant adventures. Firearms! Post-human perversions.

My stupid DIY magnet implant adventures. Has anyone shot yourself with capsaicin? Magnets for the blind? Like a dart gun? No, like a needle. Like they put it in chips. Tonight I did a dangerous thing. Trademark smiley face. I got it.

Use a skin pocket to stir your hot sauce. Hot pocket. Something to make me want to exercise? Pain. Increasing one's bite capacity. Bone strength modifications. Why do my fingertip magnets keep rejecting? DIY tattoo? Yes, I'm cheap.

Magnetic fingernails I'm looking to interface With my car Oh yeah Well the first thing is you gotta make sure it's not hot anymore So many callbacks in this Never never interface the car hot Science and sci-fi idea for a project hijacking control of the hand muscle stimulation via

electrodes that's an idea all right so yeah what did we uh what do we learn from any of this f plus bionics are fucking lame yeah yeah like like I knew about the magnet thing before I stumbled onto in fact I think I mentioned the magnet thing to someone and they didn't believe me and that's how I stumbled onto this in the first place was trying to prove like I couldn't

believe I thought that was something one person had done and got in the news a few times if you want to become a super space age cyborg, you probably shouldn't do it with stuff you found in the kitchen junk drawer. That's what I learned.

I love that these people all basically worship science and transhumanity and none of them are even remotely scientific. Like no credentials no concept of like what's sanitary or what's safe or what don't even fucking look it up i mean my god they don't look at the basic protocols on surgery or anything it's just like yeah yeah look i got a hairband i've got cold alcohol it's fine put ice in the alcohol so it's real good

yeah i was out of isopropyl so i used canada club yeah so like there was a point where at the end at the end there was this point where like i realized that there was kind of like two different kind of things because there was like there was this like transhumanist community that's like you know the Malatorra kind of people that are like oh yes you know dragon body it's obviously

coming right and then there's these people that very much feel like they're not part of that community and they're like oh no I just like jam shit into my body because you know whatever and it's like i mean i will say iron man was a how-to video right right exactly and so like i will say that in that particular thing like i kind of i mean i appreciate their like zeal You know what I mean?

I guess, oh, I mean, like, it's going to kill them, but I'm glad that they're just going for it, I guess, maybe? Maybe I am, maybe I am. I'm not sure if I am, actually. And if you're looking for ways to abuse your body, you can do it on Ball Pit. Ball Pit, a place that is not safe for posting pictures of your mutilated body. Nobody wants to see that. And we got plenty of merch. And, you know, like, yeah, like yeah Hi just everything's fine That's all

Yeah we have fridge magnets you can implant in your fingers Yeah sure Well probably not by the time you hear this How big are those fingers This is the episode where Lemon closes off by saying Hi Goodbye The lemon closes off by saying hi. Yeah. Goodbye. Goodbye. Authorities in New South Wales, a state on the eastern coast of australia that includes sydney where meow sorry i couldn't do that one in the newscaster voice