The F Plus - 326: Carne Idiota

Episode Date: July 11, 2020

The redditors at r/ZeroCarb have a particular diet they want to share with you, and here it is: Meat. Meat at the exclusion of literally everything else. Every other comestible on the planet contains toxins, so they've found perfect health. Also they're all getting hives and incontinence and a myriad of sexual, respiratory and sleep problems, but that's probably entirely unrelated. This week, we don't mention Jordan Peterson too much, so that's nice.

Why? Why? Yeah. Yeah. Just. Nobody's having a good time. No. Caution.

The F plus is not a medical doctor. It is a terrible place for terrible things. Red with enthusiasm. And in the room tonight, we have Boots Rangier. I haven't showered in two months. I swear humans were meant to eat like this. Jimmy Franks. Never trust a fart.

Achilles Heelys. Second time around, better poops. Nutshell Gulag. Cry on disease and lamb brain. Should I be concerned? And lemon. I ate a burger that had onions in it? I didn't realize it until I'd eaten half of it. How will this affect me? That is actually

the most upvoted answer. Yes, correct. Yeah, no, you suffer through flavor. affect me? That is actually the most upvoted answer, yes, correct. Yeah, no, you suffer through flavor. Hey, F+. Hi, Lemon. Oh, hey, hey, hey. I have a question for you I'd love to ask. I'd love to ask.

I don't know why I've never asked you this before, but what did you have for dinner tonight? I had a vegetarian pizza. I made it on pita bread. It was really crunchy. It was very tasty. I had pasta with vegan meatballs, actually. Oh, interesting.

What's a vegan meatball consist of? I think there's jackfruit, if I had to guess. Oh, wow. So is it like barbecue flavored? No, it tastes like a meatball. I guess I'm only used to... Okay. Put it's like tastes like i guess i'm a meatball only used to okay i guess i'm pasta sauce i don't know yes i've only heard about jackfruit in a uh like vegetarian barbecue uh context huh i don't know well uh i i had i had a i had a rack of ribs uh for for dinner tonight um and that got me interested in a brand

new lifestyle. And so it's a brand new lifestyle that I think I need to encourage all of you. Is it a lifestyle of just living with barbecue sauce in your face 24-7? Yeah, just wiping it off, just carrying around wet wipes and then the wet wipe

not being sufficient, so doing it again. No, there is uh a uh something i was made aware of uh only recently uh which is a really fun and uh helpful uh reddit community oh boy jesus christ uh yeah this was uh this was given to us by RS Benedict. And this is r slash zero carb. This is a lifestyle subreddit for people who eat meat and nothing but meat. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So, so R.S. Benedict gave me the document and then at that point I was like, well, what I actually should do is get the exact same casting

as the Soylent episode because I think that this is going to be, I want to subtitle this one Shit Yourself Healthy Volume 2. Ah, yes. are you sure that make sure this episode has like no fiber in their diet shit i mean i guess we'll find out i guess we will find out i'm not going to at some point i'm not going to pick through their scat um uh so yeah so we are on on R slash zero carb.

It is not a good thing to look at. It's not nice. Nothing about it is pleasant to look at. But here we go. So Jimmy Franks. Yes. Your name is partly paleo. You're a messiah to the vegans.

This is, so there's a couple pieces of flair that they announced right off the bat um it says uh a subreddit for carnivores people who eat only foods from the animal kingdom remember you can starve yourself thin but you will never starve yourself healthy which is pale partly paleo um and so there's a couple pieces of flair. Cooking post, moderated topic, digestion, exercise, zero carb zen. But most importantly, vegans allowed. And vegans allowed is censored because it's a swear word. Look, we're just saying what other people are thinking, all right? Sure, sure.

So this is a thread that vegans are allowed into. It's going to get pretty politically incorrect. Okay, fine. Well, thanks, Bill Maher. pretty politically incorrect. Okay, fine. Thanks, Bill Maher. That sounds great. Start the clock. Welcome to r slash zero carb. Our definition of zero carb is a carnivorous diet. We only eat meat and animal products.

We do not consume plants for nutrients or calories. Some animal products contain carbs like dairy. Most of these are acceptable. Some plant products contain carbs, like dairy. Most of these are acceptable. Some plant products contain no carbs, like plant oils, and those are generally not acceptable. R slash zero carbs.

Some of our food contains carbs. Gotcha. Okay, cool. And some food that has no carbs is not acceptable. Are you interested in trying a carnivore zero-carb way of eating? Sure, what the hell? Simple questions about it You can ask here

Vegetarians and vegans can post in this thread without an automatic ban So long as they're asking honest questions And not trying to promote plant-based diets Or spread misinformation about the dangers of meat Okay, okay, cool diets are spread and misinformation about the dangers of meat. Okay, cool. We know this is a bad idea. Please stop pointing it out.

The term zero carb is historical and dates back to Owsley the Bear Stanley. While many members choose to also use other terms like carnivore, we'll always consider ourselves zero carb. Except for the dairy products. If you're really interested in eating this way, you should read The Fat of the Land and Bear's Words of Wisdom. They're both pinned to the top of the subreddit in the free PDFs dropdown. These are considered required reading. I'm just going to say that it was the bear's words of wisdom. A grizzly bear has a lifespan of 20 to

25 years a brown bear can get all the way up to 30 oh wait those are the same grizzly bears a brown bear that's the same bear sorry a marsican brown okay also uh don't they eat fruit and stuff? I know, bees and bears. Yeah, this whole page is just, hey, look, we know this is a bad idea, but if you were worried about that, you wouldn't be here, so read on. So, yeah, but you've got some rules there. Can you just, I don't need to dig that much into it, but I'd love to know the rules. Well, number one, no unrepentant vegans or vegetarians. Only repentant vegans and vegetarians.

I'm a vegan. I'm so sorry. Plant eaters who are looking to improve themselves and heal are welcome. If you come here trying to promote a non-meat diet, you're violating this rule. If you have honest questions, you can post them inside threads tagged vegan asterisk ins allowed no dangerous diet practices don't tell people not to drink water don't tell people to avoid vaccinations don't tell people to not eat for days on end don't tell people to eat raw foods except for raw meat

apparently if you're a vegan and you post in a thread that's not marked vegans allowed regardless of everything else you will be banned if you're going to talk about a stupid idea talk about our stupid idea no abuse to others be nice even to people who aren't zero carb you can disagree you can argue you can't insult demeanor belittle so you're pro-health is that right yeah we are pro-health that includes sexual health pro switch post which discourage healthy activities including healthy sexual activities are not appropriate here oh good good the boners have already shown up i'm thinking like the nofap guys probably uh came along or something the implication is that people of people there was like a rampant use of

posts that discouraged healthy sexual activities. It does get a little contentious sometimes, guys. What? Do you guys get contentious? Oh, no. Yeah, we've got some debatable subjects that you might encounter here. There are some discussion topics where we hold varied opinions. These include, but are not limited to,

coffee, tea, and other beverages, artificial sweeteners, salt, spices, and seasonings. Can we know the status of these particular items? Oh, yeah. Well, coffee, tea, and other beverages generally permitted by most. Artificial sweeteners generally not permitted, but salt, spices, and seasonings are generally permitted by most. Now, intermittent fasting and meal timing, accepted when it's natural,

discouraged when it's artificial and forced. Well, intermittent fasting is artificial and forced. I mean, unless you live in the Serengeti. Yeah, as they say, if you get chased across the veldt by a cheetah, you might not have time to stop in for a snack. Occasional use of plant oils, like in a mayonnaise. It's bad stuff. The least possible amount is the best.

Eggs and dairy. You'd probably make mayonnaise with bacon fat. You can make mayonnaise with bacon fat. It's not the best. Eggs and dairy. Most people tolerate these well, but they're the first things we think of when people have problems. Organ meats and liver.

Some swear by them, but many people never eat them and are healthy. And grass-fed meat or grain. Finished meat. That's the biggest issue here. Should be about animal treatment as the nutritional value of the two categories is insignificant with the amounts we eat. Not only can you only eat meat, you can only eat steak? Like you can't eat any offal? Well, some people do, some people don't okay okay so i gotta say so like anytime a person has problems it's like well it's got to be the

eggs and dairy you know like yeah john's having trouble john's having trouble with his marriage like well has he been eating eggs okay so so vegans honey, so honey should be okay, right? It should be noted that honey is not an animal food. Fuck you, biologists. It is absolutely not tolerated here. Recommending honey in any amounts or trying to argue that it should be permitted will cause the posts to be removed, and repeated infractions can result in loss of posting privileges. Good story there.

You guys don't deserve my fucking honey. This sounds like a really good community. Hey Chet, haven't seen you on the forums for a while. Yeah, I got honey banned. It's your own fault. Bears are famous for not eating honey. Yeah man, Stu was talking about maple syrup the other day and shit.

They disappeared him like it was... Bear's nickname was Owlsley, so maybe it's about being an owl? Or an owl bear. Maybe it's an owl bear. Oh. Gets most of its protein from unwary adventurers. Anyway, my gums are bleeding. What?

I'm sorry? My gums are bleeding. Huh? My name is Redaroo redaroo redaroo ever since beginning zero carb i have had terribly sensitive gums one stroke of the toothbrush is all it takes to make them bleed i have been z what's the word z it's z how'd say you pronounce it i have been zc for approximately three months and i have been eating liver heart ground beef and marrow everything that i eat is raw i don't mean to bring up the vitamin c discussion again but the only thing that i found as a reason for bleeding

gums is vitamin c deficiency any thoughts uh it's well it's everything deficiency a whole bunch of different deficiencies that you have at once i guess if you're eating that much raw liver uh well i only know about seal liver but I'm guessing other livers might have huge concentrations of too much stuff, and it might build up your system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nutshell, what does Eleonora have to say? When Stevenson was dealing with some advanced cases of scurvy, they couldn't even walk anymore. He fed the men raw meat. They were better in four days.

Not sure what is going on with your gums, but it's not zero carb, and it is doctor time. Also, I don't think scurvy is affecting your gums. Ellen Arena thinks that the only disease that exists is scurvy. Do you have to specifically

seek out a doctor that won't recommend against this thing? And also, does raw meat cure scurvy? I thought that was like oranges. Yeah, it is. It is. It's citrus. I'm Gondwar the Redeemer.

Oh, God. Unfortunately, I can't really give any of my own insight on this, as I've had the exact opposite experience. My gums and teeth seem indestructible on zero carbs as opposed to a standard diet. Remember Jaws from James Bond? That's me. I don't wash

my teeth much, only when meat gets stuck. Oh boy, I bet your breath's great. Get out your scrubbing cloth and wash down your teeth. I get a turtle wax. Friends, this is the perfect example of I don't have that problem. Bye. Yeah, I have perfect dental health.

Define perfect. I do have a few ideas. But before that, I need to ask you you how much fat and protein are you eating? Well, a lot. I mean, if I'm eating nothing but flank steak and liver, a lot. Edit. So I thought about what could be causing this, and I came up with a few ideas. It could be not eating enough.

It could be not eating enough. It could be not enough. Eat more. It could be not enough vitamin D, or it could be not enough vitamin C. You try simply including everything you can. Fat-soluble vitamins, A, D, E, K, iodine, electrolytes, DHA are the ones that are overlooked the most. I don't think it's vitamin C, but in extreme cases, you could try that. Hey, it's me, Ratterer, again. No, I'm D-Daddy C.

No, it's very important that I say this. Fine, okay, that's all right, I'll wait. Just to remind you, I said that everything was raw before, right? Yeah. Okay, I eat a kilogram of ground beef per day, raw before, right? Yeah. Okay, I eat a kilogram of ground beef per day,

which actually contains which actually contains liver, 300 or 400 grams, heart, lean meat, and fat. Oh my God! Oh my God! Do you just do you just use

the organ grinder like right into your mouth? I think I've discovered the problem. The parasites in your digestive system are eating all the vitamin C. Yeah, he gets those like those like plastic sleeves of hamburger and eats them like Go-Gurt.

Thanks for that. Sorry, you may continue. D-Daddy C. Hey, it's me, D-Daddy C. Were you able to find any remedy to this? I've noticed that when doing ZC, my gums also bleed very easily.

I mean, very easily! They bleed at random times during the day and also bleed when I sleep. I'm waking up with blood in my mouth. Oh boy. This isn't a problem I need to correct, is it?

I've had a few carb days. Oh, God, I'm so sorry. But I've had a few carb days since starting ZC and noticed the morning after I do not have any blood in my mouth. How strange. The correlation is not causation. This is very annoying. I will try vitamin C, as most

people in here advise, but I wanted to see if you were able to figure it out. Yeah, I haven't resolved it yet, but I haven't taken it very seriously. I probably should. Oh my god. Sorry, I can't be of any help. You just can't be bothered. You got a busy schedule.

Listen, I got a lot of things to do, and my gum's constantly bleeding is not at the top of that list. Oh, good. Hey, Achilles. Yeah. The next thread down in the doc, your name is Trump Keto. Oh, no.

No. I sure don't want bad things to happen to you. You know what? I don't like you. I'm sure you're an intelligent person that I want to be healthy and wealthy and wise. Hello, I'm Trump Keto. ZC doesn't get you, scurvy. Does that mean the explorers of the 15th century would have survived if they only ate fish

so today they'd still be alive probably right now the second that's how those people in the bible lived for hundreds of years well you see eat enough fish and you become a deep one and then you live forever in the sunken depths of Verlet

these fucking weak ass explorers. Did you know that they've all died, all the explorers of the 15th century? Anyway. Because they probably ate fish, they also ate other things like travel

biscuits and whatever they had. This question just popped in my mind. If they ditched all their food and just ate fish the whole trip, they would do fine? Yeah, sure. That's a good theory. That's a good theory. Does Eleonora have anything to say about that?

Not sure. Yes. Eating fresh food prevents scurvy. Could be meat, fish, or vegetable slash fruit. The problem was the explorers who were only eating the provisions they brought with them. The teams that had to hunt because they were short on provisions avoided

scurvy. I second the recommendation of the wiki entry on scurvy, especially the 19th century section. Just scroll halfway down It's right there It's like three or four paragraphs What?

Do you get vitamin C from fresh fish? How could you? That doesn't make sense And then Jimmy Franks This is Will Meat Lover Hi Will Hi We already know that captains of ships rarely got scurvy

Because they got first pick of limited meat supplies As well as the fact that a ship could often have just enough chickens To feed one or two important people on eggs. Everyone else was eating basically the same thing as chickens. Those fucking cancerous biscuits. May I never eat another one again. Oh, so this is an actual guy from one of these expeditions. Aye, yes. So just think about it for two seconds and the answer should become obvious. Captain eats meat, jerky, or eggs and doesn't get scurvy.

Average sailor eats nothing but dried biscuits made from vegetables and pickled vegetables and gets scurvy. Idiot conclusion, meat's bad for you and gives you scurvy. Boots, does Google have anything to say about this?

Sorry, I just googled vitamin C fresh fish and the top result was an article called 10 Nutrients That You Can't Get From Animal Foods. That pretty quickly answers my question. It's healthline.com, so maybe not the best source, but, you know. Hey, my name's Fatboy1312. Hey. What's up, Fatboy1312. Hey.

What's up, Fatboy? Yes, me. Hey, did you know that there's custom upvote and downvote icons on this subreddit? Oh, good. Upvote is a T-bone, and downvote is, I don't know, a leaf? I don't know. It's like an upside-down tree? I don't know.

It's broccoli. Nobody on Reddit can draw. It's broccoli. Okay, okay. leaf like i don't know it's like an upside down tree i don't know it's probably on reddit nobody on reddit can draw it's broccoli okay okay uh so i started the carnivore diet three days ago i was laying in bed just chilling and i think i think i need a fart so i let it rip. It felt a bit loose. So I decided to go for a shit upstairs. I pulled down my boxers and see a massive puddle of liquid shit in my boxers staring at me. Staring at me. So it had eyes.

Judgment in its eyes. Little googly eyes floating around in there. Should have eaten those eyeballs. eyes floating around in there. Should have eaten those eyeballs. I was warned about the shits, but I totally forgot to not trust a fart. I guess the only thing to do is yeet!

Oh, boy. And the top voted response is, welcome, brother! Oh, never mind. What? Yeah? No, I don't want to read it. Never mind. Okay. No, that's me. That's welcome, brother. Oh, never mind. What? Yeah. No, I don't want to read it. Never mind. That's me.

That's me. Then I'm no kiddo. No kiddo. I did this in my bed last night. My wife kept telling me, you better stop. You can't trust a fart, et cetera. And yep, I sideways shit the bed. Not a lot, but enough.

Tablespoon. He measured. To make us laugh so hard, I almost shit myself again on the way to the toilet 10 feet away. Surprisingly, she helped me change the sheets and didn't give me any shit for shitting the bed. Lol. Is there a body R. Crumb comic strip about your marriage? Or a Folgers commercial? Yeah, and then most of the responses are like,

yeah, you need to train your body like you just need to retrain your body to um uh it's like that naturopath thing where they're like can you take helen hunt's ass wow uh hey i'm helen hunt house. Welcome to the club. Did this while I was on a run wearing shorts, running shorts through my neighborhood. Never trust farts. Never. Yeah, so it's established that part of the lifestyle is just that you're going to shit yourself.

Well, or just every time you have to fart, find a toilet. Yeah. Your life will be better, but also you're going to shit yourself're gonna be healthy you're gonna be healthy you're gonna do what normal people do your gums are gonna bleed themselves by accident you're gonna shit yourself it's all see it's it's just like naturopathy when you get super sick it's it's your body purging itself of toxins before it rebalances itself it. It'll be fine. You just have to give it a couple more months or years or however long you make it. So, Boots, how is the zero-carb diet working out for you?

Yeah, I'm untethered camper. Okay. And my post title is a quote. Okay. And my post title is a quote, and it's, So, your hair has fallen out. Oh, good. Anyway, so I've been doing carnivore for six weeks. I started going to the gym two weeks ago

and only sit on the stationary bike for 30 minutes five days a week. I don't ride it. I just sit on the stationary bike for 30 minutes five days a week. I don't ride it. I just sit on it. I eat about one to one and a half pounds of beef a day. Oh, God. And sometimes some cheese and heavy cream in my office. Coffee. In your coffee.

No, you put cheese in your coffee, buddy. Oh, sorry. I don't know why I read office. Heavy cream in my coffee. In the last week and a half, I've lost five pounds after no weight loss the first 4.5 to 5 weeks. I feel fine, have lots of energy, super emotionally stable, and I'm happy with where I'm at. emotionally stable, and I'm happy with where I'm at. My hairstylist was brushing out my hair, stopped,

walked to the side of my chair, and with a concerned look said, So... Are you fucking going eating zero carb? Your hair has fallen out a lot. Have you changed your diet recently? I explain what I'm doing doing but it makes me concerned am i not good getting enough calories slash nutrients and uh tell us uh your profile here i'm uh 29 female 155 pounds great yeah no that's super normal then that's really nothing nothing to be concerned with there yeah because at first i was like oh well you're like a Redditor, so you're probably like

a young man in your 20s, so you're just going bald. But no, okay. She's at the point in the human female's life where they bolt. Yeah, where she stopped getting the nutrients for her body to survive, and it's starting to fail her. Yep. That's one of the, that is literally

one of the things that happens with anorexia, is that your hair starts falling out. Oh, yeah. No, you're killing yourself. This is for people who are killing themselves. There's a bunch of responses here. And one of those responses, they're all like, no, no, obviously it's not the diet. It's not the diet.

No, no. And then there's canned responses that Reddit bots will post to say, no, it's totally not the diet it's not the diet no uh no there's like and then there's like canned responses that like reddit bots will post to say like no it's totally not your diet um but another thread that's also about hair loss um radical edward uh posts it is caused by a lack of electrolytes in water you need to add salt and potassium at a ratio of 6 to your water. Radical Edward was my favorite 90s prop comedian. It's Water's fault. Radical Edward was my favorite George R. R. Martin wildcards character. Okay.

I don't know if this is i like i you guys seem really judgmental and uh i don't want to i don't want to get higher so i just want to figure this out okay okay okay uh i'm a carnivore for like several years um and my question is, toothpaste, yes or no? What? Right. Do you just eat it, like, just by the tube? Okay, okay. Let me start by saying that my ZZ diet is extremely clean.

I eat no spices whatsoever. Jesus. My salt is down to a smidgen per meal. Nothing needs salt, right? And I've stopped using toothpaste about six weeks ago. I still brush, but water only. Oh my god.

Why? Are you eating the toothpaste? There's carbs in there probably. Oh my god. There's carbs everywhere., probably. Oh my god. There's carbs everywhere. I can't stop seeing carbs. It's gonna pull my hair out. Definitely artificial sweetener in there, which is frowned upon.

Oh yeah, good point, good point, good point. The results have been no problems. Has anyone else tried this? And a bunch of people have, including Logical Links. Jimmy Franks, if you'll take logical links please yes this is logical links you're an admin of r slash

keto AF wait uh I thought that was the original post or oh I don't know uh okay oh I see uh yes this is logical links I stopped using toothpaste, deodorant, and shampoo back in 13 when I started paleo with the occasional use of baking soda on my teeth, pits, and ACV as a mouth rinse shampoo if I felt I needed it.

What the hell is ACV? What's ACV? Ass, cock. Vagina. Vagina? Yep, that's it. My ass, my cock, and my vagina. Oh, it's apple cider vinegar.

Oh, God. Oh, that totally makes sense. Hold, my cock, and my vagina. Oh, it's apple cider vinegar. Oh, God. Oh, that totally makes sense. Hold on, there's apples? Apple cider vinegar. Well, I guess that's better than trying to make vinegar out of meat. That's true. Anyway, at least I've all been unnecessary on all meat. I don't smell.

I don't care if some internet person thinks I do because it seems unnatural and nutty. I've asked family and friends that would absolutely tell me to my face. That said, I do brush in the morning and shower daily. Soap was the last thing I gave up with. ZC. You gave up soap because of the carbs in soap? Yep. Better safe than sorry.

You know when you're showering and you just take a little snack off the soap? You just got to get it out of there. It is tempting. It's got that delightful pint of smell. You just want to get in there. That's when you're in the shower, you got the knife and you slice off a little sliver of the soap.

You're washing the knife. Yeah, to show the air pockets on the inside. And you just pop it in your mouth. It's tasty. the air pockets on the inside. And you just pop it in your mouth. It's tasty. I actually just stir it into my gin and tonic that I have in the shower. I like that. I like the way you think. And then, Achilles, we're back to Kwandar the Redeemer.

Oh, yeah. Hello, I'm Kwandar the Redeemer. I haven't used toothpaste since I started Zero Carb almost a year ago. I still brush my teeth for 10 to 30 seconds. That's probably long enough, yeah. To get out all the meat that gets stuck between my teeth. Otherwise, I wouldn't do that either. No problem. otherwise I wouldn't do that either no problems my teeth are much better than when I ate a normal diet uh you know which is probably 100% Mountain Dew and Cheetos um and wash my teeth three times

a day with toothpaste no more inflamed gums no more car caries. A lot less tartar. I believe most commercial toothpaste is toxic. Yeah, it has toxins. Yeah. So if you absolutely wanted to use it, I would suggest an alternative like sodium bicarbonate baking soda or making sure you get a toothpaste with high-quality ingredients. What? Edit.

I would also like to add I experienced more tartar if I didn't brush while eating cooked zero carb. Yeah, okay. Eating completely raw seems to have changed that, although it could be that I make sure to brush off any meat in my

teeth now. Oh, boy. Fucking Christ. See, you come back from the supermarket, just open up the butcher packs and just gobble them down. Give people the big ol' meat grin.

Well, you know, like when you grab a grape at the store, I'm doing that. We all do it. Security guards are being assholes. I'm just doing it with the giblets. I've never bounced back and forth between being horrified and amused as much as I have in this episode. Yeah.

Toothpaste didn't seem to make a difference when it came to tartar though fuck hey hi um my name's uh um there's itchy red skin on my face on zero carb uh i'm having oh this is a newbie question um here is a doge so i'm sorry i'm sorry i got distracted by thinking about that. That was just... Okay. I'm having itchy face around my cheek and I've only been eating beefsteak, comma, water salt. Okay, Charlie Day.

I've only been eating the beefsteak and the water salt. And then, Boots, you're Kuwahara. Yeah, yo, I'm Kuwahara. Yeah. Newsflash. Shit could still happen to your body that has nothing to do with your diet. Nutshell, you are a non-funk brain. Many people

describe something similar when they start. Some explain, or as the body detoxing, which I don't really believe in. But it's quite possible that it stems from your microbiome having a revolution which impacts your immune system. So you don't believe in

the body detoxing thing, but you do believe it if you describe it slightly differently. In any case, give it another week or two to see if it goes away. In most instances, it seems to do that. So when your microbiome's having the little revolution, is there little microscopic guillotines being used? One would hope. Jimmy Franks,

how much liver can you have in a week? Oh, well. I don't know. How big is a human liver? Is this like the equivalent of the vape smoking competitions? Liver Con 2021. I'm the Kobayashi of liver eating. Liver Con has been canceled for COVID.

We want everyone to stay safe and stay healthy. Will this be the final downfall of Joey Chestnut? I know this has maybe been asked before, but I'm trying to overcome an iron deficiency and can't tolerate disgusting plant iron supplements. Ugh. I want to correct it as quick as possible. I'm a bigger guy, 6'4", 215 pounds. I'm wondering how...

Conan O'Brien? Yeah, as I say, he's a beanpole. I'm wondering how much I could have in a week I've been doing two ounces five times a week the last three weeks And I feel okay for now My name's Go Dutch Now Okay, wait My name is Go Dutch Now

You can eat 500 grams of liver For two weeks Without fear of vitamin A toxicity. And after a while, you start feeling tired. First sign of toxicity. You can stop vitamin consumption for a few weeks. Chronic intoxication will not cause permanent damage if you stop.

Blood sausage and black pudding could also be an option, although there often is somewhat wheat product in there, too. Wow. Didn't know this. I'm only slightly iron deficient, but my naturopath also said it could take one to two months to correct through food. The end. All right, it's time to talk about fucking. Good. Finally.

Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah finally Oh boy I've been waiting for this So Boots, you are the advocate's devil Am I? The advocate's devil It's a newbie question I'm so damn clever Hold on Let me get to the actual thread

Oh, this is a good one. Lately, I've been questioning my discipline regarding my masturbatory habits as a 31-year-old man. I'm sorry, what is the title of your thread? Oh, sorry. Zero carb and sex drive. Mine has gone through the roof. Through the roof.

What is the general consensus? I got the meat fucks i want to meet sweat all over you anybody who uses masturbatory habits you know you're just you're in for a wild ride why thank you i am masturbating anywhere from one to three times a day, and this is many folds more than pre-carnivore. I used to be a big fan and advocate of NoFap. Bingo! Yay! I also like that Reddit would gauge sex drive by how many times a day you jerk off.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I found this to enhance my ability to focus on work and place the lust for sex in the background of my mind with ease. But recently, it's all I can think about. The primal urge to satiate my sex drive with a woman and my hand and or porn are just not doing the job.

I want to fuck the meat. Meat wife. Don't get ahead of me. Meat wife. Meat wife. I love you, meat wife. Right. I'm like the Ice King, but with meat wife.

Next week's episode is r slash meat wife. next week's episode is r slash meat wife uh i would go on streaks of no masturbation when practicing nofap but now there is no way to get past today i consider the day of victory if i've only masturbated once and not watched porn when before a reasonable streak was seven days. Wow, Reddit is making everything better in your life. Yes. I'm trying to follow all of the things at once. I'm trying to be the best that Reddit can be to me.

Oh, no. And you probably are. Yeah. What's this, The Donald? The reason for this post is that i have been questioning my discipline as of late oh no but i am wondering if the diet raises testosterone to such an abnormal amount that there's just no way to get through the day without masturbating at least once i understand body chemistry i take daily supplements of zinc and magnesium as well as weekly trt shots zinc huh uh-huh of of the supplements that you need zinc is not one of them

oh i take all the zinc supplements all right i'm obviously not getting enough zinc sounds good enjoy your trench foot these have helped in the past but until the diet change i haven't had the savage of the that's what it says i haven't had this savage of a sex drive since my teen years can anyone relate or offer advice i am being mentally am i being mentally weak or is this a legitimate part of the diet yeah my name's a tech addiction at the beginning I was beating my meat like every day

now I'm more chill and used to the diet IDK why maybe because I had low T before now they are a normal level so at the beginning it feels like a huge boost but really just taking you to a normal human level, but IDK. Low T is my gangster rap name.

That's pretty good. I like the Ellen Arena. Who's a mod? Here, just shows up to post, MoFap. MoFap, MoProblems. MoFap, MoFap, mo problems. MoFap, black power fist. And then the advocates devil asks, is this your personal policy?

And then partly paleo, who is the chief admin of the site says, no, it is the position of the subreddit that sexual health is important. He's just being sexual, you know, he's just being sexually healthy, that's all. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. That should be the title of this episode. Jimmy Franks, you got a question for us? I have so many questions. You know, we're all thinking about how to stretch a dollar these days and doing a lot of cooking from home. I got a question about cooking ground beef. When we cook ground beef, we don't drink the juice? Am I supposed to let it sit for a bit and

harden up? What's the deal with ground beef? What do you do to cook it? Just pour it hot into your mouth, dude. Let it sit for a bit and harden up? What is wrong with you? What are you doing?

It's his first time cooking without mother, so... How do you cook food? How do you eat food? What's food? Are you food? And then, Achilles, your name is EnduroRider42240. Sup, I'm EnduroRider42240. I put it in a bowl and toss in some fried eggs,

raw yolks, raw yolks, raw yolks, some cheeses, and a little butter. Mix it all up, and it's a delicious fatty bowl of meat, eggs, and cheese. Boy, it sure is one of those things. Wow.

So it's ground beef, it's fried eggs, and then it's raw egg yolks? So I've got a question. Is fat still a flavor transmitter when there's no flavoring to transmit? Yeah. There's no seasoning. It's just fat.

Fat is the flavor I'm transmitting. It's just a black hole. So presumably these people aren't using salt either. So they're all getting goiters, right? No, you can't use salt. God. That's unhealthy. No, they're all getting goiters.

Oh, yeah, for sure. They're all getting gout, dude. Sorry, gout. It's gout. Goiters is something else. Goiters is Oh, yeah, for sure. You're getting gout, dude. It's gout. Goiters is something else. Goiters is iodine deficiency. Yeah. So they might be getting goiters, too, if they're not using iodized salt.

Your name is Wiley Liam? Hi, I'm Wiley Liam, and I've been cooking six to eight pounds at a time in the slow cooker and then spooning it into one to 1.5 pound packets for the fridge. And the juice is the best part. One thing I noticed first time I did it, I think I cooked it way too long and the fat was really rendered. It was delicious. But after I ate it, I couldn't sleep that night.

My heart was pounding and out of curiosity, I checked my blood ketones. They were up past two. Normally, I hang around one, so I think I basically ate a bunch of over-refined fat. Now I cook

it only for a couple of hours just until it's all brown. Very delicious and no insomnia slash heart pounding. I think you ate rubber. Right? You ate rendered fat, right? KJD 0323 says,

Let it harden. Eat it like candy. Let it harden like candy. What? Let it harden, eat it like candy. What kind of fucking candy? Jesus Christ. Sorry. No, that's even better than... Mother's special fudge. Oh, God, do you remember that beef fudge recipe?

This is... I mean... Beef fudge. Red Thane believes in carnivore life, and Red Thane says, I cook five pounds of ground beef, by the way. I cook five pounds in the instapot and then into the fridge.

I eat it cold. I'm sure you're not seasoning it. Nobody's seasoning anything. No, God, no. That's got to coat your mouth for ages. Guys, I hate everything. It's like larb, except it hates you. It's not like larb.

What do these people do for fun? They don't take pleasure in eating. There's no pleasure in food for them. So what do they do for fun? There's no fun anymore, Jimmy Franks. All the fun is gone. They're just min-maxing. They're just min-maxing their bodies.

I mean, it is tough to have fun when every fart you might shit your pants. That's true. You can't put yourself in any vulnerable situations at that point. They live lives of adventure. You're shitting yourself constantly. But hey, Jordan Peterson has got your back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from jail. I'm imagining like the dumbest Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly characters

just sending these messages back and forth to each other. Well, thank God for that. I do like that Jordan Peterson is in a coma. I like that. Oh, jeez, guys. Oh, I'm, guys. Oh. Oh, I'm KMC287. Oof.

I've, um... I've had extremely low energy the past several days. So low that I've had to completely stop my workouts and just rest. I'm on day 20... Oof. 5 of Carn carnivore and I realized that I'm not eating enough fat, so, um, I got some fat trimmings from the Whole Foods butcher and I bought beef tallow. I'm hoping adding these in will increase my energy, but

oh man, even going for a 30-minute walk today exhausted me. I'm hoping this is just part of the adaptation phase, because this is not my normal. On the bright side, because of all that beef tallow, he is now able to poop candles. That's good, because it's getting dark in here. The name is Rupee Roundhouse. Another possibility is that your body is still adapting to be fat-reliant instead of carb-reliant. In the latter, the body relies on glycogen for immediate energy. In the former, the body relies on ketones for immediate energy the in the former the in the former the body relies on ketones for

immediate energy the body usually takes around 30 to 60 days to adapt until then you're just gonna feel feel way until you're fat adapted hence the quote-unquote keto. If this possibility is true, maybe, someone more knowledgeable can correct me, eating fat 30 minutes or so beforehand would provide a temporary boost in ketones for your workout. If so, I'm not sure what the required

amount would be. So no matter what health problem you have, the diagnosis is more meat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't ketones and ketosis a side effect of eating high protein? It's waste products from

your body for doing that? It's an acid that can poison you. Right, yeah. I think it's also a sign of diabetes. It's good for you, though. You gotta get that ketone boost. Anyway, yo, my name is Paolo234. I got this advice.

Salt, my dude. Get the fuck out of here. You broke the code. All right, KMC, you got a response? You mean, oh, no, more or less. Jesus. I'm hesitant to drastically increase my salt intake because i have a concern that it's causing me to wake up and pee at night which is salt is making you pee at night yeah it's all making me pee at night what is what is your body like how how do you

live in the 21st century with this little understanding about input and output? It's putting my humors all out of balance. I like making good choices. I mean, the ancient Greeks at least knew that liquid begets liquid. Look,

I can't walk more than 30 minutes and I'm peeing all night, but I'm making good choices. Fucking morons. This whole no pain, no gain thing has really fucked up people's heads, I think. Yeah, for sure. For sure. All right. Well, you know, I think the next one here Jimmy Franks I'm just gonna post

this link right here and this link right here is a post by Whimsical no Whimsical Desert it's a Whimsical Desert Whimsical Desert travel across the Whimsical Desert here we go.

Is it fine to munch on a block of butter after a meal when you're craving for something sweet? No! Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Do it. Do it! What do you think the word sweet means? If you're not a fucking coward.

Yeah. I don't want cheese, even though I love them because they stall weight loss. So is butter fine? It's tasteless, even though I love them because they stall weight loss. So is butter fine? It's tasteless, though. So it's basically solving none of your problems. My name's Neutral Milk Toast. Oh, Jesus. Oh, I have a picture of this person in my head.

I love that album in college. Oh, yeah. Do you have a guess on what my avatar is? Because you're right. You're right what your guess is. It's absolutely right. Let's see. What is a neutral milk toast post in r slash carnivore?

Oh, God. Fuck this. It's neutral milk hotel with toast. Richard Dawkins talking about the meaning of life, but I'm stoked. Anyway, I'm cool. When I eat leaner meat, I sometimes cut up a bit of salted butter into little cubes, put a toothpick and have them on the side like little cheese snacks. But better and better is like butter if you substitute a letter so butter

better I really enjoyed that pun and I just sort of had to like diagram my pun but yeah yeah just cut up salted butter with a toothpick in it to make it dainty speaking of good sexual health my name is the next seven steps

okay describe how you would eat it Uh, speaking of good sexual health, my name is The Next Seven Steps. Okay. Describe how you would eat it. Whimsical Desert, you have a response to that? Oh, sorry. I was just over here snacking on some butter. Good. It's not the salted shit, you fucking coward. Where was I?

Oh, sorry. Yeah, like straight from the package. Would you enjoy that? It's okay, but it tastes disgusting sometimes. It's okay, but it tastes disgusting.

Yeah, like the whole concept of okay is broken to these people like they've they've literally never been okay in their lives yeah like some people find reddit and then their life is ruined yeah yeah yeah just jumping from reddit to reddit and then just getting worse at every step and being like because the worst the worst people in the world are giving them ideas of what their life should be. And they're like, I've got to suffer through this now. NoFap didn't fix it.

Maybe just eating meat. Hey man, if you don't masturbate at all, then you won't masturbate at all. And ipso facto, right? Yeah. You'll not masturbate and therefore you won't masturbate so pretty good huh great yep a big pot of frogs in boiling water that have acclimated to

terrible dumb shit and the water just keeps getting hotter Um, uh, okay, Achilles, uh, your name is, uh, oh, Lethen, L-E-T-H-3-N, Lethen. Yeah, I'm Lethen. So, yeah, uh, my problem is I recently noticed I have a urine smell on myself. Which does... I'll make sure you don't shower. Um, yeah, well, you know, I rub the meat on me, but it does seem to be helped by

peeing. Duh. I'm not sure that's a duh, my dude. Not duh! If you see a person that smells like piss, you don't just tell them to pee and fixes it. But it starts pretty much as soon as I drink some

water. Well, stop drinking water. Problem solved. Yeah, just eat salt and butter. Drink meat. That's right. Meat shakes. I should be in a pretty deep ketosis. You know, in a deep K-hole.

Yeah! since I do since I do Kato carnivore, at least 70% cows from fat. Fucking Christ. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Posted 24

days ago. You're already dead. I'm thinking this piecemeal is his brain just being completely clogged by fat. Hey, what does your diet consist mostly of? This is so gross. My diet consists mainly of beef tallow. Oh, no. Plus chuck roast meat and eggs plus pork sometimes.

Please tell me you're not eating the pork raw. Gotta lean it up with the pork. I'm on an all pork rind diet. Possible explanations I have thought about. Oh, of course. Could you trace a line? Probably it's just a thing. Is it a witch?

Did a witch put a curse on you? Yeah. No, I'm a superhero. Increased sense of smell, which I have noticed in other areas. Oh, yeah. I smell like pee. This is a good thing.

All those carbs are suppressing your mutant abilities. Also, prior to Carnivore, simply being the body indicating that I need to take a leak. Maybe I was immune to the smell previously, IDK. Also prior to carnivore Simply being the body indicating That I need to take a leak Maybe I was immune to the smell Previously IDK

First you smell like piss Then you need to piss Then you still smell like piss That's how the body works Pavlov's piss dog I only saw the first half of that porno high ammonia we need a higher urea which

can seem which seemingly could be excreted by the body and sweat but it's not like I mean even hitting 150 grams of protein a day although I usually do like two meals a day. Maybe the tallow is tainted somehow. Pork I know can stink, but I eat it rarely. Anyone?

Your body is dying. Your kidneys are screaming for help. I think I'm just too good at peeing. My name is Majestic One. Something similar happened to me. After starting zero carb, my pee started to stink. I don't have a reference to associate it with directly. What does pee smell like, guys?

I don't have a reference to associate it with directly, but it smelled like vinegar and spice and, you know, rotten garbage, the things that pee smells like, right? Right. I've got some keto strips, and sure enough, my ketones were at the max reading. I upped my water intake to almost a gallon a day

and it went away. That's probably all it is. If it doesn't go away in a couple weeks, see you doctor. Since you might have a hidden condition of some kind. And coming down to the end of this document here, Jimmy Franks,

you bought a new kitchen product, right? Whoop whoop! It's the Ninja Air Fryer. And it only gives well-done steaks no wait you're supposed to are you supposed to do steaks in a air fryer sure no no so i bought a ninja air fryer last week and I've been using it to cook my steak after seeing Michaela Peterson using and recommending it. I tried different cooking times and different steaks, but they always end up being well

done. I tried putting in frozen steaks, steaks on room temperature and just from the fridge, but even after 2.5 minutes each side, they get fully well done on the inside. Right. But if you eat it, you taste clearly that they're not yet ready to eat. What? I just want a medium steak, lol. Yeah.

Any tips or suggestions or people that have the same issue, please don't recommend a cast iron skillet. No, don't recommend it. Why not? That's the right way to do it. Don't recommend the tool that I need to accomplish my goal. God damn it. An air fryer is a deep fryer with a different methodology.

So you are deep frying. You're country frying your steak. Yeah. And then you're complaining that the intended result is the intended result. Yeah. Yeah. Country frying it without the breading, of course. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Country frying it without the breading, of course. Oh, sure.

I destroyed this piece of meat and turned it into garbage, and it tastes like garbage. Don't tell me how to do it right. Just tell me how to make this garbage. Why does this hockey puck taste like a hockey puck? Oh, man, it took this long for the words sous vide to show up.

Oh, no. What? Why would you cook anything other than sous vide? Why would you do anything else? All you have to do, in a nutshell, is put it in a bag, seal the bag, put that thing in a sous vide machine for like fucking eight hours, and then take it out and then cook it the right way afterwards.

Because they all point out that like, this will taste floppy and weird, so you still have to take it out and fry it to give it a sear. It's a good idea. I don't know, I've never tried it. But it's a tender lemon. It might be fine No The sous vide steak Is a dumb idea

It's a dumb idea Because you cook it twice You have to do The second thing To give it The actual sear anyway Yeah I'm willing to try it

I mean a lot of Honestly a lot of Restaurant steaks Are oven cooked Right And then Oh yeah You sear them on the stove

And then you finish them In the oven But they don't take eight fucking hours. That's the thing they want. Yeah. Hey, my name's banned by cucks. Oh, hey. Good.

Oh, good. You're in the right place. Oh, good. Yeah. My topic is deep sleep. Deep sleep. I've been struggling to get proper deep sleep for several days over the last month consistently getting less than equal one hour well for example just this last night i got seven

hours and 35 minutes is sleep but auto sleep is telling me i only got 30 minutes worth of rest i'm skeptical whether it's the diet i just moved a month ago and i'm tossing it up either to be having to have okay either to be having to have readjust read readjust my sleep schedule or my bed maybe being a tad bit more than more firm than desirable i'm sorry if this is off topic to the subreddit but i haven't seen quality discussions about sleep much more outside of the subreddit i thought i had sleep apnea two to three years ago but the test came back negative i took a blood test for sleep apnea.

And then, Nushel, you are Anas W. Hi, I'm Anas W. Forget the app. Do you actually feel tired and throughout the day? How much do you approximately eat a day? Because, you know, food's a substitute for sleep. Yeah, I feel groggy throughout the day and usually need caffeine to suppress it. I usually fast from 18 to 20 hours each day, and I eat about 1.25 pounds of steak, half pound of bacon, four eggs, and sometimes some extra salmon if I'm still hungry.

I guess my fat intake is not high enough, relatively speaking. Relative to what? Relative to Paula Deen? Any good way to improve this? Butter. Something else I noticed. I went back to my fam's place for the weekend. My deep sleep numbers were normal slash fine there.

I did eat a little carbs on one of the days, but I don't think it had a significant impact. But the bed they have there is softer, and I was sleeping more akin to my older sleep schedule, going to bed around 3 to 4 a.m., waking up at 10 to 3, 10, 10.30 to 11 a.m. More... Ah, yes yes as you have mentioned it's definitely not only your diet but diet plays a rule i definitely recommend upping your fat intake especially that you aren't eating that

much to begin with cook your eggs and meat in tallow or butter if tolerated oh yeah i forgot to mention i cook my eggs and butter i've been using my air fryer a lot and i'd assume the steak salmon make with it are basting and the bacon grease from it i wonder how often he cleans that air fryer out or if everything comes out of it. Just tastes like salmon now. Salmon and bacon. How are things going with you, Achilles? Hi, I'm user 14235867.

Can't believe it wasn't taken. I've had weird, vivid dreams or even nightmares. High protein. Okay. When eating more protein than I need, like 150 plus grams per day, I have weird, vivid dreams or even nightmares. Who else? Who else? And then, Jimmy Franks, your name is deleted.

Since I started, zero carb every single night has become a movie theater experience with multiple vivid dreams. On occasion, maybe around five times in eight months, I have had what people tend to call nightmares. When the situation plays out involves violence of some kind. Someone dies or is kidnapped. Most nights it is not any of that. Although there are different levels of sins and misdeeds on my part and on other people's rolls in the dream.

The beef brings out my sins. Hope this helps. Bye. So what did we learn from any of this, F-Plus? This is a sinful habit. I don't feel like I felt this level of frustration

at a topic in a very long time it's just just just self-punishment for like like like i gotta better myself by making everything worse it's it's like nobody can grasp the concept of moderation it's like they think that they have to go to some kind of extreme in order to change things, make things better. I don't know. It's like, it's yeah.

Yeah. That's, that's the century, isn't it? I have a controversial take on this, which is that I think that I preferred the, um, Clips or sale recipes.

Oh, no. Yeah. And I understood them more because at least there I knew what someone was getting out of it. Yeah, there was an intended effect. It's a gross effect, but it's what they were going for at least. And they got it.

Yeah, somebody was getting enjoyment out of those things. One of my first sort of you know media jobs i had this uh you know my boss was uh you know a guy that was just the regular form of midwestern fat imagine a fat midwestern guy that's what he was and um and at one point he uh he was like he was like i'm gonna do atkins like i'm gonna just do nothing but me and i'm just atkins that thing up and i'm like that seems i don't what and he's like no no it's science and i was like if you say so um so then we're like we would go out to lunch and he'd be like oh oh i feel like shit I'd be like, you seem to feel like shit a lot.

And he's like, yeah, it's part of the diet. You just feel bad all the time. And I was like, okay, have you lost any weight? No, not yet. Okay, this doesn't seem, are you sure this is a good idea? Yeah, it's a really good idea. And it just, it baffled me. And every time I've met somebody else that's been doing Atkins,

I feel like, and this is only my experience. In my experience, 100% of the people I run into are in that exact same predicament. It doesn't seem to make them lose. It doesn't seem to do the thing that they intended, unless the thing they intended was to feel bad. Right. And to see what their fridge looks like is like an alien who doesn't understand how bodies work. Because it's just like, you're just going to cook a pound of bacon, huh? And that's your whole meal.

There's nothing in the kitchen but meat and protein supplements. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not a nutritionist. I sure am not. And it's possible that we've said things in this podcast that have been incorrect. But I also know what the human digestive system looks like. And it's not the same as a cougar's. We're not only meant to eat waterfowl.

I also know that despite what my brain thinks, sometimes I don't feel like shit 100% all the time. Hey, you got that going for you, buddy. Yeah. You can fix that shit right away. Website is always thefpl.us. We've got a forum.

It's Ball Pit. Lots of other things on the horizon. Fun things, good things, exciting things. website as always thefpl.us we've got a forum it's ball pit lots of other things on the horizon fun things good things exciting things yeah there might be something that we do

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