The F Plus - 90: The Remainder of My Time Will Be A Series of Grunts

Episode Date: December 16, 2012

The opening sentence on debate.org describes the site as a "community where intelligent minds from around the world come to debate online and read the opinions of others." We decided this needed looking into, on the assumption that any website which would brag about the intellectual level of its debates might be fooling itself. What we found was a mish-mash of poorly reasoned arguments, pointless mental excercizes, and flat out stupidity. This week, The F Plus discovers if Justin Bieber is cute or not.

Nowadays, most of the new bands get the lyrics of the songs of the old bands and just change the tunes of it. Ellipses. Is it good? Ellipses. Are they great? Ellipses. No and yes in that order. It all happened so fast that night.

And so I remember it, there was a fight. It all went black and the race was on. Behind the closed door, there's no light. And I will tell you, it felt so right. Everybody knows when it's on, here we go. Not all you want, but it's totally out of the way Hey there, this is the F Plus Podcast Terrible Things, Red Enthusiasm

My name's Lemon I disagree You can disagree all you want, but it's true My name's Lemon, and your boots rain gear And we're podcast, what are you doing? I concede the point to you, good sir You've won this round, I'll meet you in the next one Boots, what the fuck is wrong with you tonight?

You remember the other day you showed me debate.org? Oh, yes. I do remember that now, actually. Yeah, I've become a little obsessed with it. Okay. What kind of debates have you been looking into lately? All sorts of just amazing intellectual discussions, such as my opponent will lose this debate.

iPhones are made by Apple. Golf is the hardest sport. Is death bad? Yeah, there is a place on the internet where two intellectual people can gather and, you know,

using persuasive arguments and a whole bunch of supporting evidence debate the topics of the day. There's a place on the Internet where that exists, possibly. On the other hand, we found something called debate.org where idiots hit their keyboards and then people give them points. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those with the thinnest fingers to be able to type coherently.

You're typically the winners of any argument given on the site. It's true, it's true. It's a site where you can actually earn points for spelling things well, but that doesn't really affect what the population is like. I think the word rarely should have been in there, but yeah. All right, so here we go. Readers, assemble! In the room tonight, we have Boots Reingear. Humans are right to be considered animals. Dog.

Is Halo better than Call of Duty? Bunny bread. Who would win in a fight, Donkey Kong or Jesus? Nutshell Gulag. Resolved in a battle to the death, Master Chief from the Halo series would beat to be determined. Because we like him so damn much. Left-handed radio zone, Adam Bozarth. The Mona Lisa is disappointing.

And Lemon. I beat you before. I'm having deja vu. And now you're in for what Albert Camus can do. All right. Boots, rain gear. I'm going to give you a choice. Which side of this argument would you like to take? Star Wars or Stargate?

Oh, God. Stargate, obviously. Stargate. All right, Adam. You are Star Wars. Let's see. So, pro. So, yeah, Boots, you're pro.

You're super Danny luck. And, Adam, you're weird John 12. Everybody in the auditorium, please be quiet. I'm going to start my argument. Can we tweet? Can we live tweet this? Yeah. Okay, thanks.

Alright, I am SuperDainyLook and I'm arguing for Stargate better than Star Wars. Sure, yeah. Stargate is better than Star Wars for very reasons. First of all,

the weapons could disintegrate a lightsaber. I... Yeah, I... Shit. I will forfeit the rest of my five minutes. You don't need it! Alright, I am WeirdJohn12 and I am taking

Star Wars. First of all... Holy shit. Nothing can destroy a lightsaber. What about the blaster rifle can blast through anything and it just bounces off. So your first argument is invalid. You got countered. All right.

He didn't say destroy. He said disintegrate. Round one. All right. Begin round two. Ding, ding. All right. He didn't say destroy. He said disintegrate. Begin round two. Ding ding! Alright. I gotta blast this one

out of the park. Now, because the V sniper gun created by the Ga'Wool had meanie purposes. For instance, one shot will paralyze the saber, two shots it dies, and three shots

disintegrates anything. The sniper gun is mean. It is a meanie. Say Darth Vader attempts to take over Earth, SG-1 would take him and his army out I.A. Heartbeat. Three shots of Vader is just dust. That's a good point. Five points for that one.

And Vader's stormtroopers are not Siths, so shoot them down with RPGs and rocket launcher. No more Vader. Weird John, your rebuttal? Well, first, a lightsaber cannot die, and the lightsaber cannot be paralyzed. That makes sense. My second... What? And the lightsaber cannot be paralyzed. Oh.

That makes sense. What? Yes, I believe you. Okay. My second argument is that the Emperor has a large army full of a variety of soldiers. The Emperor also has a spaceship that blows up planets. Well, yeah. And the Emperor also has a spaceship that blows up planets. Well, yeah. And the Emperor also has the Force Invader.

So I believe the Stargate army will lose to the Empire. That's all for my rebuttal. All right, I'm going to start by replying to the word yes, which doesn't seem to help me very much. I can see the point. It shows humility and respect. It'll get you points. It'll be fine.

Yes, but the Ampor wouldn't destroy Earth. He would find evil people on Earth for a Sith that, and the Aincents, have a spiachial force filed that can't deflect anything destroying the Death Star. Bear in mind, this argument is about

which movie is better. Is it really? Thought it was. Alright, so my rebuttal. Well, first, you said the Emperor wouldn't destroy Earth Alright So my rebuttal Well first You said the emperor wouldn't destroy earth And find evil people for the Sith If this statement is true

Then why did the emperor only have one apprentice The emperor only cares about Taking over the universe And then you said The ancients have a force field that can deflect anything Well so did the planet That the Death Star destroyed and the Empire just attacked over and over

until the planet is all out of defenses. Oh, shit. Say, Timmy, how come you left John's sleepover so early? I don't want to talk about it. Never mind. I just want to sleep all night. And with... Lemon? Yes. You're Addison Barton. Oh, I to sleep at home tonight. And with... Lemon?

Yes. You're Addison Barton. Oh, I'm Addison Barton. Yeah, put them in the comments. Okay, that's in the comments. Yes, boy. Oh, God, there are comments. Oh, there we go.

Let's see. Hello, I'm Addison Barton, and I look a lot like Justin Bieber. Call me biased, but I don't even need to view this debate to say Star Wars kills Stargate. Nothing can beat Star Wars. Star Wars always wins. Enough said. Biased. Yeah, biased.

It did seem a little biased. But as it goes, I mean, we're John. Star Wars won that argument 14 to 0. Well, no, duh. Wait, is Super Danny not even voting for his own shit? Greatest mind of our generation. I think I remember seeing Weird John 12 on C-SPAN. He threw his Star Destroyer at the other guy and he wanted the bait.

That was Alan Grayson. That's exactly what Alan Grayson. That's exactly what Alan Grayson would do. On a similar tack, nutshell, I'll also give you whichever side of the debate you like. Family Guy or The Simpsons? Jesus Christ. I hate you.

Just send me the link so I can look. Nope. That's not how this works. Pick a gang and you roll. Family I'll take the goddamn Simpsons. All right, family guy, you get the Simpsons. You are abortion is illegal, one, two, three. So glad you didn't get to see that link first. Oh, my God.

Oh, wait. No, I'm abortion is illegal. I'm sorry. You're right. I'm abortion is illegal. One, two, three. You are Houston Rockets girl. Uh-huh. All right.

Well, I am the instigator, so I will start this debate of five rounds. Please do. Okay. So, Family Guy is better than The Simpsons. I make the argument. I believe Family Guy is better than The Simpsons because Family Guy has much, has more mature jokes which are funnier to the

smitterer community. Like me! Smiley face, smiley face. End of argument. Well, I think The Simpsons are way better because they are original. All Family Guy does is it copies episodes from the Simpsons. And I think that's so immature. Equal sign, lowercase p.

That may be true, but Family Guy doesn't copy the exact same jokes. They got an idea from the Simpsons and make it better. Plus the Simpsons. I it better. Plus the Simpsons, I'm going in free verse now, plus the Simpsons are yellow. And the motair has blue hair. Anime face.

Well, in my opinion, the Simpsons would kick Family Guy's A-Axtrix-Axtrix. And if you did a survey to see who was better, the Simpsons would definitely win they've been out longer and everybody knows about them

you're doing a terrific job of not making any of the arguments I would make Houston Rockets girl she's doing a terrific job of not making any arguments when arguing between these two shows, which one more people are familiar with existing is a really good one to go about. I think Catholicism is better

because they've been around forever and stuff. I quote, Just because you go platinum doesn't mean you're better. It means that a million people are as stupid as fuck. Meaning that even if they did a survey, line break, the American standards are really low. Which is why Family Guy's a better show. The American standards are really low. Ooh, this next sentence is good, too.

Oh, my God. This next sentence is really good. It might be the best sentence ever. I need to decide how I want to... That's the MSOT. That's the test you take to get into grad school. Okay. So the post-grad test, the MSOT people

are not intellectual enough to understand Family Guy making it superior. Okay. It's like art, man. If you don't get it, that means it's better. Duh. It's the jokes they're not making. There's so many of those, though. There's a lot of those, though.

There's a lot of people who think Family Guy is stupid because of all the things it says. That's why it was cancelled before, and I'm sure that if a lot of people who hate this get together again, Family Guy will get cancelled. A lot of people watch this and that. That's where they get all those bad jokes and stuff from. The Simpsons never

shows bad things like they do in Family Guy, and that's why The Simpsons never shows bad things like they do in Family Guy And that's why The Simpsons are way better Because television ratings are based on how many people don't like the show Right, yeah, yeah, exactly We had to sacrifice Herman's head in the early 90s You cannot possibly blame Family Guy for the kid's actions If the kid is messed up, who's to blame? The creator of the show or the parent?

I'm not having the same argument as you. Only in a very roundabout manner. Yeah, let's bring it back on topic. Plus, listen to the radio. MSOT's songs are perverted. So you cannot blame Family Guy for what it says. Because clearly, if I'm not mistaken, at the beginning of the show it says,

viewer discretion is advised, TV 14, and if 14, and not mature enough to handle Family Guy, then you're possessive of the one to baim, not the creator of the show. The kids are always going to watch TV, so IDK, why instead of having the Family Guy out where the kids could watch,

they should have it where the kids aren't able to watch? And plus, Family Guy was made for everyone to watch, so IDK, why can't they be a little less mature about their bad jokes? They should know the kids are going to watch it, so they should just be aware that the kids are watching the Simpsons know what they're doing so therefore they have more rating than Family Guy

and they're better did she really tell Family Guy to get less mature about something I feel like these people are arguing does she think that's scientifically possible these people are arguing with the same intellectual capacity I have when I get startled awake.

Family Guy with the kids. Family Guy says that is for TV-14. Every television has an option to block unwanted programming from being viewed. This is forced by the FCC. So if the kid learns stuff he isn't supposed to It's the parents fault Because they should watch the A-year child Not anyone else

And no plus the Simpsons doesn't make any funny jokes That are funny enough To la-mow And Family Guy will make you La-f your ass off In every episode No no every what? Every spisode Oh I'm sorry Every spisode. Oh, I'm sorry.

Every spisode. Every spisode. There you go. Whatever. All kids are going to watch TV, so they're going to get ideas from there. I think the Simpsons are way better, and Family Guy can't beat them. Family Guy may be funnier because of the

stupid jokes it made, but they were stolen from the Simpsons. Wait, what? So the Simpsons should get credit for that, not Family Guy may be funnier because of the stupid jokes it made, but they were stolen from The Simpsons. Wait, what? So The Simpsons should get credit for that, not Family Guy. Holy shit! And that won you the argument. Yeah! You won 37 to 5! What's that?

Despite saying that his show was better. No, no, she only said the jokes were better. Oh, okay. Well, that would only matter if they were both comedy shows. Yeah. All right, well, we still need the Pokemon versus Digimon. Oh, yeah.

Need is an interesting verb. No, really. All right, Stog, Pokemon or Digimon? I'll do Pokemon. You're doing Pokemon. Okay, so you, Pokemon or Digimon? I'll do Pokemon. You're doing Pokemon. Okay, so you are BC Resmur, and Adam, you are Dark Anonymous. Wait, no, I'm sorry, Dark Nonimus. Dark Nonimus.

Okay, okay. Okay. All right, Stog, you bring the case. Bring it out. Okay. This is about Pokemon versus Digimon. Okay. Just let whoever accepts this that I know nothing about Digimon,

but I know how to make a victory sound on a camera at the secret camera inside the teddy bear. That's the nanny cam. Yeah, that's what it's called. Nanny cam. That means I'll be debating for Pokemon, okay? Okay, so

this is how this is going to work. What are you laughing for? I just said... We're laughing with you. How is this going to work? Okay, anyway. This is how this is going to work. I love English. What's so funny?

Proceed, Stolf. Girls will never get past this. Okay. One. Which is better? Two. Pick two to battle with? Or three.

Can't be a legendary. That's only fair. Round one is going to be the acceptance round because you better accept losing. We're getting through all five. Have you ever tried rap battling? Rounds two to three are going to be the aggruments. Yes.

Where you aggrue that you're a loser. We will aggrue to disagree. And rounds four to five are the Digimon versus Pokemon battle. Sure. Okay, that's how all debates should end. Did you see the presidential

debates? Yeah, that first one people just couldn't stop talking about how much Obama's Digimon just sucked. It's all lethargic. Alright, so I'm Dark Anonymous. I accept your battle, having seen So let's work this shit. Alright, so I'm Dark Anonymous. Sure. I accept your battle,

having seen every episode of Digimon. Oh, you are fucked! Oh no! Thanks for accepting. Pokemon is better, because unlike Digimon, Pokemon is still alive and kicking. They are still making games

and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they still have a TV show on. So, you're arguing about the half of the shit that you don't even know about? You're completely clueless on the other side, but even this thing, you're... Pokemon still has

a TV show on. That's how I know they're successful, okay? For my two Pokemon, I choose Blasthouse and Sceptile. They are both level 100. Good luck! I think Digimon is the best show because even though it didn't

end, it did end. It did end. Even though it did end, I had... it had an ending to a really good storyline. Whereas Pokemon is basically a repetition ever league. What? And Ash doesn't even beat the league. He just goes somewhere else

with someone else. Not to mention that Ash is really in a coma. Ah, what? Spoilers, Dick. And the whole story is a representation of his conflicts and emotions. Yeah, the whole plot of Pokemon is. You didn't know that Pokemon was Hillside Blues, did you? I was going to say it elsewhere.

I was going to say, you're conflating Pokemon with Jacob's Ladder. But that isn't even specified in the show. Oh, you had to read between the lines. Got it. And Digimon actually did start as a pocket game like Tamagotchi, but that was before the anime or manga release.

Tomiguchi. Yeah, Tomiguchi. Yeah, Tomiguchi. Tomiguchi. Now, as for my Digimon, I shall choose Ven... Vemon. Vemon. With Azulaymon's power

so he can Digivolve into Imperial Dramon. Sure. Were any of those words his choice? And Wormamon. But starting at Stingmon so he can DNA Digivolve with Fenmon. What are you talking about? I don't know.

I'm talking about Digimon. I'm using the Digimon from the Digimon Adventures 1 and 2. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I don't know what that means, but yes, Ash never does beat the League, but each new show is different. And it usually has new Pokemon or new people and events. Also,

we have Team Rocket, the villains, that always try to get Ash and Pikachu. If I may summarize your first two sentences, the first sentence you explained, every episode is different. The second sentence you said,

also there's villains that try to capture the Pokemon in every single episode. I didn't say it was entirely different. Jeez. Is Ash's Pikachu, is that a euphemism? No! Shut up! Okay.

Try to debate here on the internet. Yep. Pokemon also started as a handheld game, so I don't see the point there. Good argument. And now I'm off to research a Digimon. LOL. LOL. I don't see the point there. Good argument.

Yes, Pokemon has different people in Pokemon every season, but everything is almost the same. The only difference is that Team Rocket's attempt to get more and more unrealistic and Brock gets more and more horny. What? It's true.

Wait, do you think Pokemon is Pokemon fanfiction? Wait, do you think Pokemon is Pokemon fan fiction? Ash only gets greasier and greasier every episode. Sometimes it will have things like their backstory, like how Meowth learned how to talk, or why they try so hard to impress Gan-o-ville. It's Gan-o-vie.

Gan-o-vie. The story of all the seasons, with the exception of some of the more recent ones, is Ash and some other people that he met along the way go adventure and battle gym leaders, then go somewhere else, learn a lesson, and then find another gym leader and give Team Rocket a massive dose of electrotherapy.

So yeah, he broke the stories. Yeah, because they're trying to train the gay away from Ash. It was a euphemism. God damn it, Stahl. But for Digimon, the story progresses from Digimon Adventures 1, It was a euphemism. God damn it, Stahl. But for Digimon, the story progresses from Digimon Adventures 1, where the Digichosen train their Digimon Digichosen. Where the Digichosen Digitrain their Digimon by Digidigimon

by Digidefeating several Digivillains. Where the Digich-chosen, train your Digimon by defeating several villains such as Demivon. Demivon. Sorry, this is somehow hard to read. Just keep saying Mon, you'll be fine. Such as Demimon. Villains such as Demimon.

Then Myotismon. And several others to get them ready for their next enemy, Apocalypmon. Oh, my God! Who almost destroyed the DigiWorld and merged with the real world. Okay. Yeah. And then in Digimon Adventures 2, there's another group of Digidestined. It's misspelled. I think I'm supposed to say Digidestended.

There is another group of Digidestined. But they know their Oregonal runs. And they act as the teacher of the newly Digidestined, and they follow somewhat same path, but a new villain is introduced, which is another Digididja, and is corrupted by a mysterious creature that really isn't explained,

but the Oregonal Digidestined, and a ding-a-dang, like the masters, who lead the group with the help of their battles, giving an insight into the second generation. In the end... Oh, oh, oh, you're just quoting that butthole surfer song. Jesus built my hot rod?

Yeah, that's ministry, but it's okay. Don't ruin it. Okay, so in the end, they reveal the Digi-World to the real world, then the Digidestined have children, who too become Digidestined, and the whole child has a Digimon partner. But in the third series, it all changes and reveals that it was just a show,

and that the government was actually hiding the real DigiWorld. But now you can tell there's this progressive story with a resolution at the ending of every season. But for Pokemon, the only resolution is that Ash will continue his journey. I have a lot of typos, but I'm lazy.

Dark Anonymous, I have a question. Have you ever not been on LSD when watching Disney? No, that's just the drugs that slipped into your water. I'm gonna win this fight. Alright, BC Resmer. You all have to remember, not only does

Pokemon have toys, games, TV, shows, cake carts. Come on down and see the world famous Pokemon.

Only 10 cents to get a look at our Pokemon. And a massive fan base. We also have full length movies.

Victory through merchandising. I had to laugh at what you said about Brock because it's so true. Now we battle. Oh, good. Go ahead.

Battle. Battle. I can't make any more arguments because it's battle time. No talking during battle time. Come on, son. Battle. Battle. drink battle time.

Come on, Sock Battle. Come on. Blastios uses water cannon on burden. Man, that's cheating. Earlier you said it was Blastios. Shut up. I'm trying to keep my composure.

You're doing great, baby. You're doing great. Maintain. Zeptile uses Leaf Blade on Wormmon. Both of these attacks are the best in the games, and even more because my Pokemon are level 100. Also, do Digimon have levels? I'm just wondering.

I just noticed that if I chose Patamon while I have the Crescent tag, I would win from there. He can just Digivolve into Seraphimon, and it's won from there. He's the closest Digimon to God Digimons. Oh, you didn't mention that when you were picking him. Why are they not called Godgemons? Yeah, you should have just chosen God Digimon. No, they don't. And even if it is the strongest attacks,

it is still a powerful hose and a razor-sharp leaf. Well, Wormmon and Vmon recover from that pretty quickly, and DNA Digivolve into Paladramon, and use the power given to them to Digivolve into Imperialdramon fighter mode. He uses Giga Crusher. I'm in the middle of... Paladramon?

Is that like a giant paladramon? It's a big bucket. Yeah, it is Paladramon. Paladramon, yeah's Peldramon. It's a big bucket. Yeah, it is Peldramon. Peldramon, yeah, Peldramon. He uses Giga Crusher, which is his strongest attack that managed to destroy

the strongest virus type Digimon. Its span can attack both at the same time. I like how the first part of his attack is, uh-oh, it doesn't work. No, you didn't!

You didn't kill me! Ah, this powerful hose and razor-sharp leaf can blast apart rock, dead steel, cut trees in half, and seriously injure someone. For my final attack, Blastios uses Hydro Pump, and Sceptile uses Leaf Storm. So you're throwing water and leaves at God. How about we just go make friends? Oh wait, I'm sorry. That's not gonna happen.

Wrong TV show. Of course not! You don't like the same TV show! There's no friendship in this. Okay, I'll allow it, but there Digimon and Imperialdramon has had Diabolomon

in his most... I'm getting dumber. You're using bigger words. It's true. How's the recording? Digimon. Imperialdram German has had Diabolomon In his most powerful form Attack him with his gigablaster

I think that's what it's called Which is basically a giant laser Multiple times And still lived I used God Giant laser multiple times There's like seven actions you can do

In a round in Digimon it seems like I use both the D3's To give Imperial German his ultimate sword And boost and power boost it Using them too All enemies are now dead It can kill

Millions of Digimon in one blast. Oh my god. This is horrible. Wow. Omnimon couldn't even do that. Oh shit, not even Omnimon? Omnimon, the everything monster. I thought that was a palindrome nom.

Oh yeah, no, I'm wrong. That's nom-a-mom. That's nom-nom-nom. Yeah, Omnimon's the one that eats all palindrome nom. Oh, yeah, no, I'm wrong. That's nom-a-mom. That's nom-nom-nom. Yeah, especially Omnimon's when he eats all the hamburgers. So I think I won here. Also, you should have allowed legendary. That would make the battle more interesting. Yeah, that's why this wasn't interesting.

Yeah, that's why this wasn't interesting. Patamon and Gatomon. Angel Digimon. Rookie form. Against Arasasuras. The god of Pokemon. Not sure how to spell. And you two.

No, you're not sure how to spell. Also, I feel like I should add that in Digimon, there is actual danger than in Pokemon. Pokemon is too childish, even for a kid's show. And Digimon goes from one side to the other, depending on the season. There's all those gang rapes. Yeah. If you read between the lines properly, I mean.

And Digimon are much stronger than any Pokemon. Even Apocalypmon could kill every single Pokemon and trainer with... I cannot decide what's the worst name of one of these. ...with only his willpower. Well, off to the pussy mines. Gotta go. I got a punchline for this whole thing. What's that?

It's the stog. You're 19 years old. I am. Probably 18, because it was 11 months ago. I am actually probably 18 because it was 11 months ago on that same tack

I was just looking at both of our I was looking at both of our contenders Dark Anonymous has only been

in one other debate which is Master Chief from the Halo series comma could beat Boba Fett comma from

Star Wars. Who won on that, really? I was trying to follow that one for a while, but I lost track. We all lose. Because it's only pro-con. I don't know what that means. We all lose.

But anyway, Stog's character there has been in a whole bunch of interesting debates, like cars were better in the 70s and 80s than they are today, a whole bunch of stuff about World War III and which World War II weapons were the coolest, a general fun you-pick round,

PS3 versus Xbox 360, but more importantly, PS3 versus Xbox 360. But more importantly, his two most recent posts were What do you think is better, emos or guts? And leave the Latin talk at home.

I'd rather like Blue's Clues' Steve was so much better than you. 19 years old. Oh, Adam's character was... Adam's character. Adam's guy was 25 years old. Not a character, an actual human being that took time

to god mode a fake Digimon vs. Pokemon crossover. Okay, uh, Nutshell Gulag? Yes. Question, question, yes, no. But Justin Bieber is ugly.

I don't really know what Justin Bieber looks like. What? I didn't ask if you knew what he looked like. I said yes, no. Is he ugly? Uh, I'll say probably no, because he's popular with preteens or something. Okay, so you say no. So you are true to Gaga. Oh, God.

True to Gaga, who does not think that Justin Bieber is ugly. I, on the other hand, am Nicki Minaj 010. I think their argument isn't even about Bieber. It's about these two people. You're a stupid hoe. No matter what they actually say, could you please just do that for like a minute straight?

I fuck a stupid hoe. I fuck a stupid hoe. I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish. I wish. What just happened? fuck I was doing back home. I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish. Wow. Okay, okay, okay. What just happened? We did the entire song and you was a stupid-o.

The relevant parts, anyway. Okay. Okay, Nicki Minaj 101. I'm sorry, 010. Justin Bieber is ugly. I decay what people seen him. He is just ugly. The only what people see in him. He is just ugly. The only reason he is famous is because they made these lies about him,

saying him and this girl named Maria went out, and she is a princess. So that's why he ugly. I have more info, but I'm going to let y'all argue he is a wannabe Zach, but Zach is cute out here. He is just lame. He don't even know how to sing. He thinks he is cool, but he

is not because he is a complete loser. I see. Zach Morris, I think. Zach Braff. Zach Snyder. Zach Morris. Zach from Dead or Alive. Zach the Lego Maniac.

Nikki, you're crazy with all your Latin slag, lol. Justin Bieber is a fuck. Did you just call me Latin slag? Lol, this is a random debate, lol. Then I posted links. HTTP blog, livewire.com, and HTTP user survey, a.k.a. Last.fm. I think that's...

That probably was on Justin Bieber. Oh, okay. Yeah. He is not cute. He is just plain ugly. Why do people see in him? I'm good to food. He is just so ugly, really.

Sorry. people smooching him. He is just so ugly, really. Sorry, my friend currently can't spell or punctuate or make sources. He is cute. He is cute. As my friend Erica would say, he is homolicious. Then I posted another link.

I forfeited this round! Well, you got me there. Homolicious. Unfortunately, Nicky has failed to post an argument. I urge you to vote con. Thank you!

Okay. How many people voted Khan? Okay, and the final scores, we've tallied them all up. Well, on the internet, because we don't want to count these votes by hand. But, yeah, so we finally tied up all the scores, and the contender, Choo Choo Gaga, has zero points. The instigator, Nicki Minaj, 010, has zero points. The instigator Nicki Minaj010 has zero points. Oh my god. So who won?

Okay. Adam? Yep. Graffiti. Pro-con. Con. Okay. You are Luke Pa. Fascist. I'm sorry if I'm the only one who hates Banksy. And Nutshell, you are Coopin. I'm sorry if I'm the only one who hates Banksy. And Nushel, you are a Koopin.

I am. Okay. Oh my god, I'm a little stuffed felt chicken. Yay! You can't lose this. You're set. Graffiti. I think graffiti is bad, but what do you think?

End of argument. Strong opening argument there. I would like to thank my opponent. Graffiti is not bad. People do it professionally. It is a form of art. I believe you are getting confused with vandalism. Thank you, and I look forward to your response.

That's what we'll call us. But what if someone did graffiti on your wall without permission? Yes, but that is an act of vandalism. You would be mad if someone threw tomatoes at your house. Does this mean tomatoes are bad? No. I look forward to your response. It's like Ceres having an argument with It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like

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It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like It's like I would like to thank my opponent for posting his last argument. I would also like to thank the audience for reading. Sadly, my opponent has failed to properly attempt to refute my arguments.

From what he is saying, everything could be bad, including tomatoes. I would like to extend all arguments. Remember, people use graffiti all the time as a form of art. It can be used for many different decorations, not just vandalism. I urge the audience to vote pro. Thank you. We are experiencing a high volume of arguments, but yours is very

important to us. Adam, do you want to take a similar argument from Luke about football? Who would you like to debate? Who would I like to debate? Who would I like to debate? It's your call.

Who hasn't gone in a while? Bunny Bread? What's up, baby? All right. So you are, once again, Luke Pa. Your opponent is Bang Bang Coconuts. And the argument is football. You are pro.

That is honestly a really good name. The argument is football. You are pro. That is honestly a really good name. The argument is football. You are pro. He is con. All right. Football. I think Liverpool FC is the best football team ever, and I would love to see if someone disagrees.

Well, shit. Okay. I was going to, but never mind. He said you're playing into his hand, man. Yeah. I thank my opponent for their challenge. First, my opponent gives a statement of opinion without any kind of warrants to back up their belief. Second, there is no such thing as a best when it comes to sports or sports teams. After all, they don't compete with each other in order to determine who is the best on a yearly basis.

This doesn't happen. This is why they leave it to us on the internet to discuss things. And thank God they do. Well, I guess we'll just play games against each other until someone starts a debate site. Should we keep score or something? No, Dick! God. Just keep me out of my house. Those fall down

to opinions as to who enjoys whatever team. Therefore, there can be no best, as it would take away the ability of people to have opinions. Sure. Yep. Ever since we started keeping score on things, just opinions have dried up. Oh, God, I wish I had an opinion on that. If only that worked for the election.

Yep. Finally, the burden of proof is on the pro. They have not proven their claim. Thus, the con is winning. For all of these reasons, thus far, you must vote con. I now hand the debate back over to my opponent.

I mean, over to my opponent! I thank my opponent for arguing, but Liverpool is the best team ever named a team who's won 18 cups since football started. Name a team who's won 18 cups since football started.

Ah, Liverpool. There, I win. I thank my opponent for his swift responses. When I say swift, I mean brilliant, not quick. First, my opponent never addresses my prior arguments. Therefore, they must extend a cross. Second, my opponent tells us that their favorite team has won so many World Cups,

but gives us no empirical evidence to believe as much. many World Cups, but gives us no empirical evidence to believe as much. For an argument like this, we can't even begin to consider it without proof. The cone is still winning as the pro has not met the burden of proof.

I hand the debate back over to the pro! It's a really good debate tactic to go, I'm winning, asshole! I feel like this guy's just getting reps in on Robert's Rules of Order. Level up! The point

is that if any team would have a match against Liverpool, they would get beat. Because Liverpool have the best team players with a good reputation. Because if you say Chelsea-esque they have a bad reputayon

looking forward to Khan's response it's every year in San Diego it's awesome again, my opponent makes a statement of fact without proof. Vote against him for this as it's not a viable claim. My opponent doesn't cover my prior statements, and he drops all of my attacks on his stance.

Extend my points. Vote Khan back to pro. Luke Paw forfeited this round. Damn, that's a knockout! My opponent has forfeited. Extend all prior attacks, please, and thank you. And also imagine me

dropping the mic right now in front of him. Now, the sad thing is that Bang Bang Coconut actually won this debate 19-0. I really want to see the debate where one of the contenders forfeits and still wins. Okay, we are not, we are absolutely not going to read um the debate entitled uh rape is okay oh no it's titled rape is okay unless you are being have been or are immediately about to be raped so they rape them so they rape him back. It's a defense rape. So we are not going to read the debate. Rape's okay unless you're being raped.

We're not going to read the debate. I'm guessing this is one of those things where somebody written by a 14-year-old fan fiction author is like, rape is so strange. You can rape somebody as long as you're not already being raped while it's happening? No, it's like a stern father saying, if they try and rape you, honey as you're not already being raped while it's happening? No, no, no. It's like a stern father saying,

Now, if they try and rape you, honey, you rape them right back. Don't rape that one. She's already being raped. That would be fucked up. I think it's just... I think it's like, I want to make my rape jokes, everybody. It's not bad because I'm not raping someone. Oh, yeah.

This is Tosh doing this. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Anyway, we are not going to be doing this debate.osh doing this. Oh yeah, absolutely. Anyway, we are not going to be doing this debate, but we will take just the last line. Oh god. Boots, you are a rational

madman. So you are a rational madman, and the contender Yuru is Nutshell Gulag. Boots, first if you would explain to me what your avatar is. It's Mr. Bean. Can I be silent like Mr. Bean is?

In a nutshell, your avatar is? It looks like a small Asian girl, like maybe five years old? In the middle of a rap battle, actually. I was going to guess spelling bee, but sure, that works too. It has to be a spelling bee?

Just the last argument. And Boots, you were the one that made this case. Can he read the first thing? The first one, I think, would set it up, and then if you said the very last one, you know what I mean? Not the response, just the initial argument, and then his closing argument. Sure, sure, sure.

Boots, summarize your start your argument. Alright, so I'm presenting the argument that rape is okay unless you're a being, have been, or are immediately about to be raped. It's reasonable.

Some reason I make myself sick. Let me explain what I mean. If you aren't being raped, you will like it, no doubt. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ! He means the old ska band.

Yeah, he means you will like No Doubt. There's a superfluous word in there. If you aren't being raped, you will like it, No Doubt. Wait, am I being raped right now, then? No, you will like not being raped. I think in a way you are. I will not ever be a rapist advocate. I'm just saying that it's horrible only if you your being, have been, or are immediately about to be

raped. So, rape is only horrible for rape victims, but not for anyone else. Sure. All definitions I shall allow my opponent to decide. All must be sourced and not stupidly ridiculous. Okay, so no stupid ridiculousness.

Yeah. Okay, so there's a whole lot of text around one, two, three, and four. We're going to skip right down to round five. Okay. Actually, I'm wrong. Congratulations. I don't even have to read the con person's lines. That's kind of...

Whoops. Come on, take a victory laugh there, that shit. All right, she says, I rest my case. I would like to pretend that that was only round two. He immediately just said, even though she said nothing in response. It turns out... Okay, so my claim is

Xbox is better than PS3. Okay. And Pro. Stog is con. Okay. You know, I play video games and I don't even care about them. But I care a lot, okay

He cares enough for both of you, trust me Okay, so here we go Round one 360 rocks! Oh shit I'm ready to vote That's a good claim, but here, let me go over this This is as good as that other debate is

Does San Dimas high school football rule? Based on circumstantial evidence, yes. Let me see. I have some points that I'd like to make against the Xbox 360 actually rocking C1 online. Xbox online costs $50 per year when you get the Xbox. It is a well-known fact that people have to pay $50 per year for Xbox Live. Now, why is this a problem?

It makes the Xbox cost more in the long run, which is a major downside. C2, cost. Xbox is $199 to $229 in purchase cost. PS3. $299 purchase cost. Are we going to read all this? No, no, no.

I hope he does the math, because I can't follow. So we have an idea of what 16K Adams his argument is. And 16K Adams gives six sources on the bottom. But let me summarize my argument. Xbox costs more,

is unreliable, doesn't have as good graphics as the PS3, as it doesn't have Blu-ray, and the PS3 is therefore better. Vote con for conservative. Okay. Okay, so that's your argument. That's pretty good.

Okay, let me rebut. 360 has the KineNet and is better than the PS3 Move. We may not have Blu-ray, but for PS3, once you make up your gamer tag, you can change it. But Xbox, you can. The first is free and the second time for 800 microsort points. Also, Xbox has

more games than the PS3. Also, more gamers prefer the Xbox. Look at a link. Puss, we have the most memory. 320 gigabytes. We may not have Blu-ray, but we have HD. Also, PSN has a huge problem recently.

The problem was it wasn't the Xbox 360. Burn! Excuse me. My opponent does not justify the Kinect. My opponent's cost refutation is poor as that only covers two years. Then the costs begin to rise. Having more games isn't as much of an upside as then having problems as

Xbox is unreliable. The argument here is on exclusive games, and PS3 has exclusive games too. My opponent has no stats on this either. So to summarize, you're just saying, once again, the Xbox is more expensive than we were saying?

Yes. Vote Con for Conservative Day. Also, every time he mentions Blu-ray, he spells it with an E, so he's talking about the middle guy in the Blu-ray group.

You can't say Blu-ray. Blue Pete. He's my buddy's Blue Steve and Blue Jim. We'll be sleeping on your bed tonight. Okay, so that's your point. That's well made.

I just want to rebut with this. Okay. Lots of people like Xbox 360! Goddammit. I have a lot of friends. I'm sure you do. My opponent has dropped all my arguments last round, therefore 100% of my case stands.

Xbox actually has high negative ratings among people who own them. Here's a customer services scoreboard website. As your claim is not backed up with stats, mine is more reliable. Arguments. More reliable than me saying it's better? Fuck you. Okay, okay, okay. You said it really loud.

So we have, this is one more from the same guy, Rass 2000. Okay, sorry. Okay, he's right. Here's exactly why I love this guy so much. Okay, Boots, you are Ryoso

Tabikashi. Tabikashi, yeah. And you started, well, just point out what Gozo Tabikashi. Tabikashi, yeah. Yeah. And you started, well, just point out what your argument is that you started here. Yes, I'd like to talk about the epic rack battles of history. Sure. Okay, that's good. Yeah. Einstein versus Stephen Hawking.

Who won? Who won? Yeah, who won between the epic rack battle of history, Einstein, versus Stephen Hawking? So you're taking it as a given that this happened and we all know about it. You haven't heard of this? Yep. And I've got the solid gold edition, you know, LP whatever. Yeah, is this the first time on the internet there, fella?

My God, you ain't heard of this? Yeah, and I say Hawking's. Yeah. Is this the first time on the internet there, fella? My God, you ain't heard of this? Yeah. Yeah. And I say Hawkins. Okay. First round is acceptance. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I'll take your challenge. What are you talking about? Most people or the media ones say that Einstein, and it is true. That was a fine argument. Thank you! I did debate prep on my Xbox. Yeah, just please, a little bit of quiet in the room.

For starters, I say Hawking won. Because between the first comment, I learned how to spell his name. But anyway, because he was using a computer, T-Talk, and that is a big achievement right there. Also, his rhyming was exceptional, and he dissed him with the line, You lock like someone glued a mustache on a troll doll. So it is in my opinion that Hawking took this one to the top.

Okay, okay, but here's my rebuttal to that. I forfeited this round. Case closed. Keep going. Just because I forfeited doesn't mean I lost. I am counting.

Just ask Wolfram Alpha. Then you got the quote. There are ten septillion particles in the universe that we understood. Your mama took the ugly ones and put them into the nerd. Interesting! I forfeited this round! Somebody needs to read Thet.

Hi, my name is Thet3, and I got so excited when I saw this topic, but I also feel Hawking's won. Wait, wait, look at Fett's, uh, like, avatar. Yeah, it's a yin-yang inside of a cross. It's a yin-yang inside of a cross. Fett's really hedging his bets when it comes to religion.

And Fett is an 18-year-old female who wants Ron Paul to be her president. who wants Ron Paul to be your president. She somehow makes $75,000 or $75,000 grand a year. That's his allowance. She's a Lutheran? I don't understand. I don't understand.

Wait, and she's white? Oh, wait, wait. Stog! Stog! Stog! Stog, come back. Tell me about What is it? Oh, God.

Tell me about yourself and your activities. Hi. First, just tell me about yourself. Hi. My name is Seth 3, and I'm an 18-year-old female in Dallas, Texas. About me, I'm 10 times more modest than anyone else here, and that's a fact. No one can compare to me. I'm always right.

I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken. Okay, what are your favorite activities? I'll beat up anyone who says they're more modest than me. What are your favorite activities? Being a hate-filled bigot. Oh. What are your beliefs? That must take a while. What's your beliefs? Google Ron Paul.

I believe in my own supremacy. Same thing. And I'm white, so therefore... That's one of your favorite books. My favorite books are Democracy, The God That Failed, All Quiet on the Western Front,

Animorphs, Catcher in the Rye, Harry Potter, Hunger Games, The Reason for God, Peyton Place, Tao Te Ching, The Road Back, Slaughterhouse-Five, among others. Want to take any guesses on which ones she actually read out of that? I'm currently reading The Great Fiction Slash Sovereignty, an inquiry into political good. No, you're not. No.

You bought it, though. Made sure to carry it around with you. Oh, wait, what about your movies, though? I'm sure they're the same kind of intellectual... Dichotomy? Yeah. It seems like it'll copy, yeah. Well, there are two movies I like,

and I'm having trouble deciding. So what, like 1984 and Animal Farm, I'm going to assume? The Notebook or Mean Girls. So hard to choose. Yeah, I understand. Mean Girls was an adaptation of Slaughterhouse-Five. No, Slaughterhouse-Five was an adaptation

of Slaughterhouse-Five. Oh. Well, Ross2000, do you have anything to say to that, or do you forfeit? Actually, I have one thing to say, but it's not about that. It's about Harry Potter. Oh, boy. Okay, it watched

both movies, and I really don't like any, but if I had to choose, it would be Twilight. First, Twilight made $191,195,655. Also, Harry Potter is very boring. And I'm not the only one that thinks that. Lots of people think it's very boring. Plus, the other one made a bunch of money.

Yeah, I mean, God, none of the characters in Harry Potter ever fucked unless you count the fan fiction. Twilight made a bunch of money. Harry Potter, of course. Complete financial disaster. Yeah, Jesus. He only made, what, nine of them? They don't learn very quickly. There are five rounds

to that argument, and it took until the third for Roz2000 to drop out. He ate his Wheaties that morning. He had some staying power. Okay, Boots, I realize we should probably be ending this, but I have just found sexual abuse already

perpetrated by extraterrestrials during abductions should be forgiven. Do you like that better than cremation and burial should be made illegal? You're right, you're right. Because they're both pretty awesome. Yeah, no, I need to read that one because that was the only one I found. I don't know, your call.

Yeah, I'll read the... Okay. It's only the first part. Yeah, you're only reading your own argument, but it's a good argument, so it doesn't even need the... I don't see why there's a debate here. Okay. I have too many tabs open.

Okay. All right. Oh, good. The guy making this argument is the... Hey there. Hey there. Okay. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm Brian Eggleston. Oh. And I just want to tell you that cremations and burials should be made illegal. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Yep. Cremating dead bodies releases huge amounts of nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter, mercury, hydrogen fluoride, hydrogen chloride, heavy metals, and persistent organic pollutants in the atmosphere, thus making a significant contribution to global warming. Organic pollutants? At the same time, burying corpses is no more environmentally friendly as this method of disposal results in vast quantities of hazardous and bonding fluids leaching into the soil. Furthermore, entire forests are felled to obtain the hardwoods used to produce the coffins, caskets, which are never reused and are always instead just left to rot away in the ground.

I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So if we can't burn or bury the deceased without damaging the environment, how do we get rid of the corpses? That's what I was wondering.

Do you have a good... Yeah. Well, if the undertakers were to butcher the cadavers and bag the body parts up, they could sell them to zoos and wildlife parks to feed carnivores such as lions, tigers, sharks, and crocodiles. Yes, I'm sure all the employees at those places would love it if all the predators

developed a taste for human flesh. Yeah, exactly. Carnivores love spoiled meat, right? A win-win situation. Grandma looks so peaceful in that tiger's mouth. Well, during your time of need, I know that there's a lot of choices you're going to have to make. Would you rather

your mother be eaten by a crocodile? An egret? Very... We can also do the penguins for extra charge. We have to flavor your loved on his fish. Oh god, I think the lion's got another

drug overdose. We could throw her into the monkey cage. We've never done that before. We just really want to see what happens. Also, every city has a zoo. Go on. I'm sorry. Go on. All of which consume huge quantities of meat and are known to have a taste for human flesh. I have a footnote for that.

Good. Moving on. The beauty of this scheme is it is both environmentally friendly and economic, as the money raised from the sale of the corpses could be used to offset the cost of the funerals. What? In addition, feeding time at the zoo will become far more entertaining for the visitors. And for all these

reasons, I affirm that cremations and burials should be made illegal. Thank you. Drop microphone. I really hate my grandmother. I want to see her eaten by a shark. Come down to the zoo. Tuesday night is cancer night.

It's another goddamn bore enthusiast. Okay, this one's very, very quick, so it's fine. Nutshell, Obama should be re-elect. Pro-con. Yes, absolutely. Pro, please.

Okay, you're pro. You're John Ested. And you think that Obama should be re-elected Yes Come on, Obama kills three terrorists He get re-elected Hulk, vote My name's Fetch the Third

I am against this argument Thanks, pro I'll assume that round one is for acceptance. John Esty forfeited this round! Well, we're in round two, so let me say Zero Obama shouldn't be reject. B.C, he be blook and

blook people are bad. Obama killed three terrorists and he awesome. Why not he get rejected? I love the terrorist on E. I love that you forfeited the first round, and then you decided to come back in the third to make the same point. That's like when your dad gets mad and leaves the room,

and then comes back in to yell at you. And another thing! And another damn thing! As the user in the comments pointed out, Obama didn't kill terrorists. Soldiers did. My opponent has given you no reason to support Obama's plural re-election, and thus has failed to meet his burden of proof.

Vote con! And 17 people did, so I won that argument. So I guess Obama isn't the president. Yeah, he black. He be black. When it's time to leave this place, I'll follow what comes easy. Be lured by human rest, discover what still needs me. And there we go.

We're out about an hour of Arguing with Idiots, the Internet Edition. Boots, what did you learn this week? I learned that death isn't so bad. Oh, really? Is there a score to that? Yep. Three to zero. Not being bad.

That's one of the things that's really nice about debate.org is that all of these eternal questions, all of these kind of concepts that have stuck with mankind for millennia, is God real, is there an absolute morality, all of these questions that people just go back and forth on, debate.org figured out, well, let's just put a score on them, and then they're solved. Yeah, I think this week we've single-handedly proven that modern philosophy is dead. So take that, every modern philosopher still alive. I'm talking about you, people I've never heard of. It'd be tricky to name one.

I think even with the internet as a resource, it'd be tricky to name one. That's true. with the internet as a resource would be tricky to name one. That's true. And I want to mention a very heartfelt thank you to Montreth for providing us with this content and a website I'd never heard

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Or tensions in North Korea will lead to a war between the North and the South. So, you know, maybe one of these days. But in the meantime, you can go to thefpl.us. Leave your comments and, you know. Yeah, hang out with us. Let us know everything we're doing wrong, and we'll score you on how we think you argued that point. Or if you want to draw some shit, God knows I'd appreciate it. Yeah, we're all suckers for that.

Totally. Good night. Good night. Good night! Good night. Day of the Fifties. Day of the Fifties. Your rap's so awkward. A chick can be headed. The rhymes are so bad. I feel a child said it.

People call you Jet. Well, I call you Butch. Yes. Batch. Batch. Cause you'll be my pet at the end of this pitch. Oh, it's probably bitch. You say you crush pests? Well, I'm an infestation.

You can do your best, but I can conquer nations. Come to the wild? Well, go back to the playground. Cause soon enough, that sandbox will become your burial mound. Oh, jeez. Wow, that is flow. Oh, mound. That is flow. Flow. Alright.

This is the worst pitch I've ever heard. I'm gonna kill you on the internet.