The Fighter & The Kid - A Guillotine From SIDE CONTROL?! | TFATK Ep. 1226

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Bryan Callen shares what he’s been working on in his private jiu-jitsu lessons, and Brendan Schaub wants a demonstration. A guillotine from side control? Naturally, the guys have some fun f...iguring that one out.They discuss John Danaher’s approach to learning, how to improve at jiu-jitsu, and turning instruction into skills you can actually use on the mats.Plus: Bruce Bolt gloves, the Ben Simmons and Zach LaVine reporter clips, Odell Beckham Jr., the week’s news headlines, and Bryan’s upcoming tour dates.Subscribe to The Fighter and The Kid for full episodes and clips.DraftKings - One app. Every sport. All 50 states. New DraftKings customers, sign up with code FIGHTER spend five bucks to get one hundred and fifty in rewards within 14 days - includes all markets. That's code FIGHTER. In Partnership with DraftKings. The Crown Is YoursTen Thousand - If you want to check them out, head to https://tenthousand.cc/, that’s https://tenthousand.cc/, and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order. That’s https://tenthousand.cc/ code PODCAST15.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. I want to apologize for being late. I mean, not late, but I had to push a half hour. You weren't too bad. No, I wasn't late. I just had to push a half hour. You wanted to go at 11.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I had to go 11.30. Had a private jiu-jitsu class. And when you text me and I said, dude, and it's so important. Well, hold on. It's so important you make jihitsu at 60, your number one priority. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you put half the effort into promoting, you would be. I would be Shane Gill.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I mean, well, let's, you know what I mean? Is that true? Is that true? Okay, I'm, hold on, I didn't. Wow. Really? So I should, I'm going to take that hour I do Jiu-Jitzi, man. I'm going to promote.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah. What should I do, Instagram? Yeah. Oh, okay, Facebook too? Yeah, yeah. How about YouTube? Do some videos? What about some billboards?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Hey, guys. When's last time you saw a billboard? The casino still, dude, I'll pass by somewhere if I'm like driving when Tigers travel ball games. Yeah. I'll see like Indian Reservation to have a comic. I'm like, hell yeah, billboards are sick. I'm loving the way you're thinking. Billboards are sick.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah. I like the old handing out flyers. I like that too. Just old school. You know, and I'm glad. And you think I'll get to Shane Gillis numbers? I almost guarantee it. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:01:25 You're good at marketing, so I'm going to go with one. Or your money back. What? So I have to pay. now yes yes okay what is that payment for that's good it's an alarm for these ideas 25 grand month okay again but i'm gonna get it back 365 day return wow okay i like i haven't spent the on cars all right what'd you learn in your uh private oh man important stuff chokes where to put your hand you know just guillotine stuff for guillotines all that weird stuff get the pad here push it in
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's so counterintuitive, all that choky-chokey-choke stuff. But you think I'll pull this way now. No, you don't pull up. You didn't do it's just too long, not to know not to pull up, right? I know, I know. But it's like little details. If you really want to get good at Jiu-Jitsu, if you really want to get good, you do the John Donahur, Gordon Ryan.
Starting point is 00:02:24 You have to, like, you break it into micro-movements, and you drill those until you get it perfect. Where's your head? I don't know if that's the only way. I mean, you'd have to go to like a real serious gym where there's a lot of competitors. You'd have to go to Six Blade where there's like guys training for ADCC, training for Craig Jones. Now, I'm not going to do that. Well, if you want to get good.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Learn online is not the way to get. Yeah. You're also, you're never, any, for anybody out there is going to learn boxing,
Starting point is 00:02:55 you're, you're, you're, if you can start at 13 under really good supervision. If you're going to start in your 40s and you're an actor and you think you're going to slip punches and come back. That's going to be a tough one. That's going to be a tough. Tough. That's a tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So. But hopefully you got a good takeaway from it. I got a good takeaway from it. You enjoy doing it. It's your hobby. It's a good way to stay in shape. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I mean, I work out beforehand. There's better ways to do it. I do like an e-mom. I'll do something like that. Like we'll do a 25 minute and then just roll for a half hour. Yeah. So I get an hour in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Do a little boxing sometimes. Yeah. I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll say this and we don't have room. Just, you know, just, just be aware, right? Around me. God, I hope.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Those days are so far gone, Bella. Yeah, yeah. But the days of you wrapping me up and me not knowing what to do. Do you want to show me what he taught you in your privacy if it works? You learn guillotine? Yeah, you'd, uh. And the, the gileteens when you're pulling guard to get the gileteen? No, I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I won't be pulling. I won't be pulling guillotine. So where are you getting your guilty net? Well, sometimes if I've got you, if you have me in half guard and then you bend in, I'm bringing your shoulder in, I'm fucking wrapping. I'm wrapping you up here. I'm wrapping you here. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I'm bringing you down. There's a lot. I might grab here. Now, I might grab here. Sure. There's a lot of shit. If we're standing, I snap you down. You went over a guilty from half card.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Let me. Can I do this? Snap you down. I don't want to say he. stole your money, but I'll just say you could have taken that money and set it on fun. Well, it's not a guilty. It's not a guillotine.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's just, it's just, if you come into me, if you're coming to me, I'm going to come around here. I'm going to get under hooks. Standing guillotine. Then I'm going to mount and I'm going to be over you. That's all. So standing guillotine, when I shoot in? When I'm on the, when I'm in the mount and I've got you,
Starting point is 00:04:59 I'm behind your head. You understand? That's what I'm talking about. I mean You didn't have a private Did you? A guillotine from the mouth? No
Starting point is 00:05:10 I guess guilty is wrong word Guiltine's wrong word Yeah yeah So if you're here I got under hooks on your arm And you're sideways Right and you're in side control Yes
Starting point is 00:05:21 And you but you've got You've got a half guard I'm gonna pull here I'm gonna pull you into me There's your head Look look look Oh what's this That's not fun for you
Starting point is 00:05:34 and then mount and now i got your fucking stupid head here and i'm just fucking what do you what do you choke the shit out of you until i feel this and i hear this so you're probably i'm not done hold on hold on yeah sure so your your private was getting i'm just saying getting guillotine from side control and then to mount a lot of different things i could do we might be we might be fucking standing we might be on whatever it is i choose to do if you're on your hands and knees and i got this arm and i'm here look look what what what that's not a joke what what what what what look what look at you know what i'm saying yeah um is that cool it's cool i mean i just because i see a lot of neck on you You know what I see?
Starting point is 00:06:33 You know what I see? Be cool. I'm being super cool. Don't say some dumb shit. You know I see? I'm feeling loose. Dude, I'd love for you to teach me this guillotine from psych control, which never doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:06:46 But what I, you know what I think? What? I'm being cool, right? You're being a shithead right now. What do you have to say? I can't show you without a mat. I don't want to say you're wasting all your time? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But I want to say. Listen to me. You're listening. Can I be honest? I'm a problem right now. I'd love to find out. There's a rug. There's a rug right here.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I can move the table. Yeah. We can make it super easy in here. There are a lot of, you're going to have your hands full, is all I'm saying. You and any. I know you know what the problem is, though?
Starting point is 00:07:20 What? It's like what if I'm trying to discuss, um, I'm rolled out, is what I'm saying. I'm rolled out. Right now I don't want to roll, but you're explaining Jiu-jitsu to me right now
Starting point is 00:07:31 that what you learn in your private is like me trying to explain rocket science to someone that knows rocket science. It's not adding up, is it? Right? Look, man. Look, I'm not doing a good job of explaining the things that I go. You weren't paying attention. My side control, I'm getting out.
Starting point is 00:07:49 If I get under hooks on you, yeah. If I get under hooks. Buddy, again, we can do it right now. I'm getting the fuck out. There's not a chance. And I'm going to cause, I'm going to just be, I'm going to toggle you. I'll give your instructor $100 if you can get out of my side control. I'm clamping on here a little fucking hippie hips.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'll give them $500 if you can keep me down in psych control. $500. I'm clicking on here and I'm moving you back and forth. Question for you. Yeah. Is the guy who's teaching stuff your buddy? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:08:22 No, no, no. Good buddy, right? No, no. You guys eat tacos and shit after? This is my instructor. As your friend, though? They're all my friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. What are you trying to say? You know. You know what's up? You're saying, You know your buddy when you're saying, You sing I'm an actor, and they kind of go through the motions with me?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. You know when your buddy's singing the car and your buddy's like, dude, you can sing. You can't. Oh, that, yeah. Yeah. You can't.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Well, you have to, when somebody's paying you and they're an actor or they're a civilian, you got to make them think. I know. That you. Remember that tennis guy told you could do it?
Starting point is 00:08:58 That was the best. That was the best. I was like, wait, oh, really? And he goes, you should, you, you should, you should need to be more consistent, but you should be, you should be hitting with pros, and, and you should be hitting like a pro because you, and I was like this. You know what, the game. And then I went, I'm 59.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, no. What's he saying to me? What's his saying? He's like, dude, we just pay for 10 more privates. We'll put in a bunch. Wayne, McCall is. Oh, I love so much. The sparring stories.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I love Wayne. Wayne to go, Wayne to do a radio show on, in Ireland. He goes, I put Brian in. in the ring with anyone. And I was like, hey, Wayne. You know, I love you so much, but don't ever say that. Did you talk to Wayne? Yeah, I text all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He's good. Wayne is, Wayne McCulloch was five, six, at the time, one, one, maybe one 35, one, forty. And he would sometimes just put a mouthpiece in and move around with me and turn my fucking head around. Just punch me in the face, do whatever he wanted. And because I would jab him one time and he'd go, huh? Hey.
Starting point is 00:10:01 The pocket rocket. Yeah. Real boxing. Yeah. The best. Love him. Love his whole family. Yeah, he's good people.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, he's the best. Fucking fought Nassim Muhammad to the end. He's, you know, it's been around a long time. Yeah, he was a good dude. Yeah. Yeah. All that stuff, Jitsu boxing. I like doing it because it's hard.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And I like doing it because you never really, unless you make it your job good luck but you know then you grab somebody who doesn't really know what they're doing and you're like oh you know i'm learning something here and there there's a big difference between rolling with a black belt's been doing it forever and like a blue belt you know maybe they're big but they you know so tom hardy's into it man he was asking patty pimlet at the opening of mob land season two patty was there he's like man you can just tell he loves jiu jutsu He was like, man, I'd love to roll with you. He's like, really?
Starting point is 00:11:01 He's like, oh, I would absolutely love it. Do you like teach him shit? Great. Yeah. You can tell he loves it. And Mobbland season two is so good. Do you watch Mobbland all? I need to watch it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Oh, it's good. It is? Oh. I got to watch it. You haven't seen season one? No. Oh, it's good. Great cars.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I understand why he loves Jiu-Jitsu because frankly, I think it's kind of almost like a philosophy. Like, if you get good at it, if you're good at it, you get better by being relaxed. You don't get better by being smart. It's a counterintuitive art form. And like everything else, you just get something out of it. Like getting good at anything is going to. I can't, you never see Mobland 1 season one? No.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You have any of the 10? What do you think, dog? No, no, no one watches anything current here. I need a show. I need a fucking show. I give you shows every day, dude. Yeah, I'm going to watch that. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, start with season one. Didn't he quit? That's all fake. How about that? That was all fake news. What do you mean? By the way. There's no truth to it at all.
Starting point is 00:11:57 He's looking strong. Oh, that's, okay, that's Chan. But that's him with Chandler. He was working out with Chandler. I don't know if this is the video, though. That's cool. No. But no, back to that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 That was all fake. That's hilarious. He's kicked off. You're not doing season three. And, you know, he did a publicity thing? No. He had nothing to do with it. And then when he did the marketing, like the media for that, they asked him as,
Starting point is 00:12:21 what? I don't know. That's a thing? Like, no. He's like, no. And then they asked all the actors. They're like, what? No one, no one's, is there any, is there any footage of Hardy rolling?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. Yeah, he's, he's entered competitions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Can you tell when somebody's rolling pretty quickly?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Or it's hard? If he's good? Depends, yeah. He does it a lot. I think he's a blue, he's in the background right there in the blue, huh? This is so awesome. He's in the blue. He's a major movie star.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's a big deal. I mean, he's as big as it gets and he's fucking, he's training. He's, he's, he's, Bluebell here. He's competing. That takes a lot of balls to compete. And it looks pretty good. Pretty traditional there. And he's doing it right in the ghee too. Yeah. Guy's kind of
Starting point is 00:13:22 stalling there, isn't he? Yeah, but I don't think he competes under his name, so guys don't know until they get to the mat. I'm like, holy fuck, that's Bane. He has to be like the only legit guy. Like, you see all these celebrities. There's Camorra. Oh, no, Tom's legit, by the.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah, Tom's legit. What? Compared to what? What other actors are no competing? Like, I don't give a fuck what you do in practice. He's competing, Bubba. That IBJJF, like, that's a big deal. I'd love to roll with him.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Do it in a ghee. I'd love to. Yeah, do it in a game. I roll a guy once a week. Yeah, that's all he does is, it's a different thing. Bone error chokes, all those things you have to worry about. Yeah, it's the proper way to do it. But the fact that he's not just going to the gym and talking about it, like competing,
Starting point is 00:14:36 and you're one of the biggest movie stars in the world, all these other cucks think it's cool to do jiu-jitsu, Mark Zuckerberg, all these guys, they talk about it and this and that. That motherfucker is actually competing. Yeah, you get really better. There's a big difference. Well, it doesn't count unless you're competing. You know what I'm saying? You're good in the gym?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Well, there's a big difference. You're good at practice? Competitive black belts and regular black belts. Oh, no, no. Yeah, it's night and day. Because you just, like there's guys who are, you're seeing different looks. You're good in the gym. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But you don't know how it's going to actually work against people that don't know what you're doing. The problem with the gym is you see the same guys over and over again. Yeah, but you're also comfortable. It's not real competition. Yeah. It's like kids in practice who are really good in practice. Then game time comes. They're terrible.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. Hey, buddy, you're, this, it doesn't translate. It's not going to work. Right. Unless you're doing it when the lights are hot. Right. We're talking about practice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I'll never compete. Not because I don't want to. I just don't care enough, but I hear you. You'd have to, like, properly train for that. Like, he properly trains. Yeah. And that's great. But I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I mean, I think he's got a lot of balls to compete, honestly. A lot of balls. I know. I know. Everybody's looking at you. A lot of balls. You could, you know. He's got a lot of balls.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I think he's a purple. He got his brown now because that was old. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's a purple of brown now. That's great, man. Brown. And, like, doing the proper way, right? He's a teacher.
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Starting point is 00:17:12 Limited time offer. Nationwide based on sportsbook predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability. Varies by state. It's pretty cool, man. Also, brown belt and he compete? Like, that's a proper brown belt. Yeah. That's pretty cool, man.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Isn't that cool? Yeah. Carlos Santos, do you guys know that wrong? And under... Under... Under Hodger. Hager. Hager.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, so it's in London. I've heard people say Hodger, who I met at the mothership. I've heard people say Hodger's the, I think. He's the best ever, ever. Yeah. Like, that's what you have. Yeah. That's what Donna Husset.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I was surprised he didn't say Gordon, though. Well, you're talking Ghee or no Gie? Okay. You're talking about two different sports. Two different sports. Yeah. So Gey. Hodger's the best ever in a guy.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Is he? Monster. He's free. Big boy. Tall. Talk about long legs. Tall. Tall.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Tall. Tall. Yeah. Absolute freak. And awesome human being. Yeah, he seems great. And you rolled with him? Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, because when he got ready for the UFC, he came to our gym in Denver. Really? How'd that go for you? Sparring was very tough for him. Tough for him. Very, very tough for him. He just wasn't natural. Again, it's the same thing I say about Gabriel Stevens.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Like, there's not enough hours in the day. Like, I suppose this clip, how people are like, oh, John Jones is the wrong mentor for Gable Stevenson. He needs to get with Trevor Whitman. or a Nick Sick. I'm like, no, no, no, no. There's not enough hours in the fucking day. He's already in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:18:41 There's not enough hours in the day. Same to Hodgers. There's not enough hours in the day to get him to compete at a professional level in striking. Why, he couldn't do it in three years? Y'all Romero did it pretty well. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:52 No, you're missing the point. So he can't train striking in three years and compete at elite level. His skill set where he's going to win because he's already in the UFC is he's an Olympian. wrestler, wrestle. So he needs to get with, like, I said, like, at least a bowling.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You're saying there's no point in him. He should do it, but he shouldn't go to Trevor Whitman, who's just striking. Right. He should get with an MMA wrestling coach. But what about? And there's some really good ones that can translate his skill set. Well, what about somebody who can like, like a Raphael? Like, Addero?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, like who should be straight kickboxing. Right. But what about that? Like low kicks, punching. A guy like that who's so athletic. could, his learning curve is steep, so he could probably pick it up. He's 28. 26.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You're in the UFC. Like, the only way he's going to be six-sept in UFC is by wrestling. But Kane Vlaska's learned how to strike really well, right? I mean. For years. Before he got to the UFC. Before he got to the UFC. He didn't get to the UFC and get a striking coach.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Oh, he didn't. Okay. No. Fuck no. Kane? No, he fought in Bodog, you know? Oh. He was that AK training.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Right. Right. But he probably started. How old do you think he's, started. I don't know, 24, 25? Yeah. So, so, I mean, Gable could, if he got the, followed that blueprint. So let's follow your blueprint. Let's say here's coach. So you want Gable to focus on striking? Yeah. So, okay, so then he fights Cyril Gunn. He fight, it's such a casual take, and I do with it all the time. No, but you're missing the point. Yeah. It's not that you just don't
Starting point is 00:20:30 work striking and become Ben Ascrant. The point is, is you're in the UFC. How can we get wins? What's our advantages over the opponent? Yeah. What would that be, wrestling? Yeah. So you need to implement wrestling for MMA because that's your foundation. Yeah. Right now he doesn't have a foundation.
Starting point is 00:20:50 He doesn't have a foundation. So you focus on. You got to get him on the ground and then punch him the face. Yes. Yeah. You got to get them. We got to get guys down. You got to clench.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You got to transitions. You got to, you got to work with guys who understand how to put people on the because on the feet is just not you're too amateur. So okay. Okay. You want to be world champion? Can you beat Sir A gun? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:21:10 What are you going to do? You got to take him down, right? Yeah. You're going to beat Sergei Pavlovich? How are you going to do that? Got to take him down, right? You don't stand and bang with those guys. What about a Poetan?
Starting point is 00:21:17 You're going to stand with Poetan? Glory world champion? Yeah, you're going to get knocked the fuck out. I see. But again, so even if you, even let's say he was like, you still work striking. Even if you want, I'm just going to, for the next four years, work with Nick Sick or Trevor Whitman.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And it wouldn't matter. And wouldn't matter. Yeah. Because Cyril Gond goes, oh, I was doing that when I was seven. But so then you would say, maybe you work striking to close distance, then grab. Yes. Right. But the goal is, is MMA wrestling.
Starting point is 00:21:47 That's going to be your world-class asset that will get you to the top. Striking is never going to get you to the top. Not a five hours on a day. You're not going to be an elite striker in the UFC. You can't. You can't. What are you going to do? How are you going to catch up Cyrilgan?
Starting point is 00:22:01 How can catch up Sergey Pavlovich? now they can't catch up with your wrestling, but you're not using. You know what I'm saying? So his advantage is wrestling, but if you're not going to use it, you're fucked. You're fucked. Learn how to get people down and control them.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Get them down, pound them out. Hold them down. Pound them out. And you said the same thing for Bo Nicol. Oh, my God. Yes. Even though he's been... Do the Kibib.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. Do the Kibib. Be the Kibib. But Bo just likes to strike. But he's fighting guys. right now where he can do that but then look at RDR he was scared of his jitsu so he just stroke got got knocked out body shot yeah yeah that's how that goes but think if he just decided to fucking kabeb it and break his will and take him down like you're gonna have a
Starting point is 00:22:49 you use a far better chance winning that you're best at yes you have that foundation none of these guys have yeah but then you're playing into their game and that makes sense of course but again in this is you can't these guys already in the you're never going to be standing in there and bang him, Cyril gone and get the best of, in mid-distance. You might catch them, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:08 might get lucky, but as far as you, like, having a long reign, no, you got to use your skill set. You got to use your skill set. Now, I would say, though, the problem is,
Starting point is 00:23:17 like, some of those guys are very good of keeping you at distance, right? I mean, when you're trying to close distance on a guy like that. But if you're that elite of a wrestler, you can get it.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Like, like, it could be, like, at Hamzot. Like, they're going to get you down. They're going to get you down. Islam they're going to get you down.
Starting point is 00:23:34 They're going to get you down. And like you'll see like Islam's not going to strike with Carlos Prattez or Michael Morales. He's ain't going to sit there. He might throw some stuff just to get you to commit so he can get you down. That's right. But he's not going to be in the line of fucking fire. He's too smart for that. The great ones are too smart for that.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. But then the ego gets involved like I'm just as good as him. Oh, God. Yeah. And then you get knocked at like Stevenson, especially early in the fight, you're getting your, your distance band if it's that terrible, you get clipped early in the fight, that's the most likely timer you didn't get knocked out early in the fight. It's just inexperience, no striking experience, turn in your head when you get hit. He jabbed this way close to the guys. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And you're in fight zero gun? Okay. Oh my God. And you want to go training with Trevor Whitman? Is that what he's going to do? No, no, no. That's what the internet's like he, he could train with Trevor, he could train with Nick, sick. It's like, no, no, get him with an MMA grappling coach. Maybe Trevor on the side. What he needs to do is. Once or twice a What he needs to do is work with somebody because from what I've heard in college, he was a take down guy mostly. But grabbing somebody and holding him on the ground is a different thing, which he could do. He'll figure that out quick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:45 He needs, yeah. A lot of work. You know, a lot of work. Yeah. We'll see how he responds. Well, I would imagine that makes the most sense. Maybe or the egos get involved, you know. Egos.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Egos. You can't have an ego when you get knocked the fuck out. Bro, he still had an ego walking out of the octagon. Even in a statement, he still had an ego. I just got caught. Okay. No, no, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, no. That's not true. It's wild. Oh, you love this. I came from at a meeting with a, so you probably want to, but Bruce Bolt. So they're big in baseball gloves, huge. They're in MLB. They're local.
Starting point is 00:25:34 company here in Austin. They started not massive, massive. They got offers from Nike, Rawlings. They wanted to buy out. They didn't do it. You love the backstory. So I'm talking with them because they're starting to make football gloves, right? And they're going to get gloves for all the kids on the team. And he goes, meet me at the office. I'm like, all right, cool, man. So I drive his office this morning. It's a house. And I'm like, uh, all right, just like a modest house. I'm like, the fuck. So I pull in and there's just boxes everywhere. There's just gloves. There's no, it's not proper house. It's a house.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But inside there's like gloves, baseball. There's all sorts. And then he goes in and he goes, this is the office. I go, you guys are like a $500 million company? That's your office? He goes, oh, you don't know our back story? I go, no, you're going to love this. He goes, in COVID, I think 2020, my son was a senior in high school. He bought this like old school land cruiser, like off road. He's like, you'll love his car. He goes, he bought this old school land cruiser and he played baseball. And then, and he goes,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and at the time, my business, I was going bankrupt. We didn't have a lot of money. It was me, him, my wife, his younger brother than him. And he was like, in business, was tough for me. He was during COVID. I was going bankrupt. And he goes, and my son buys this beater of a car. He was a cool land cruiser, but beater of a car.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And he calls me, he goes, dad, need gas. And he was, Bubba, you, no, you got to get a job. I know you're playing baseball, but you got to get a job. And I don't have the extra cash to afford the gas. And he goes, you got to come up with, you either got to get a job and then figure it out with baseball, or you got to come up with a product and sell it yourself to afford gas to pay for your car. The kid goes, okay. So his kid sources on his own, sources gloves from Indonesia, right? And goes, hey, we'll call it, we'll call it Bruce Bolt after grandpa.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Because grandpa's been struck by lightning, I think three times. In like 20 years he got struck three times. Like he's the most unlucky guy ever. He's still alive, though, right? But he's been struck through time. So he goes, we'll call it Bruce Bolt. I put a bolt on it. And he goes, okay, good I like Bruce Bolt.
Starting point is 00:27:38 He goes, okay, I like it, man. Also, he'll get your gas money. So he starts selling him. He's on Lake Travis Baseball team. He's selling him. He's selling his buddies. And he goes, dad, I sold all 20 pairs I got from Indonesia. And dad goes, buy more.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Take the profit. Buy more. Cool. Bys more. Bys more. And he goes, dad, need some help. I keep selling out. And then the profit I'm ordering, but I'm only doing it to my buddies. How do I expand? Dad's like, we need a website. You got to Shopify. I'll help you with that.
Starting point is 00:28:11 His dad's super stressed out, bankrupt, about to go bankrupt, not telling the family. They've been on website, stuff like that. He's doing his thing, doing his thing. And he goes, dad, I have 500 orders. And he goes, but we're all out of gloves. And he goes, in COVID, the factor's about to shut down. Like, this is the only way I can make money. And the dad's like, I have no money. I'm about to go bankrupt. And he goes, I don't know what we're going to do. I don't know what the fuck we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And he goes, then in the mail, a PPO loan showed up from my old business. Remember they're saving people? And he goes, $150,000. And he said, I looked at my wife and go, do we take this and get a, you know, pay our mortgage for the next whatever is, 12 months? So we have a year to stay afloat, but we're going bankrupt. or do we take this $150,000 bank on our 18-year-old son who started a fucking baseball glove company and have them order more gloves? You know what they did?
Starting point is 00:29:13 They did. He gave his son the $150,000 to order more gloves. It saved the factory in Indonesia shutting down because they had no orders because of COVID. And during COVID business, it saved the factory. And this factory was not a baseball glove factory. No, they're going under. They're just making very, very, very, his shit. So he takes 150 and he gives him his wife was like, this is crazy. The 18 year old
Starting point is 00:29:36 he goes, I don't, what else? We just got a bank on it. They give him the $150,000. He orders the gloves. And the dad goes, I can idea. You have a son's like dad, he's stressed now. He's like, dad, we're going to do. We're going to go under. He's like, this business is just getting off the ground. And his dad goes, what if there's a way to pre-order? So the gloves are $60. He goes, they pre-order, they have to pay for the gloves. So we'll get the money ahead of time. Then we use that money to order more gloves. So as we pre-order, we had 600 orders coming.
Starting point is 00:30:07 She goes, we had $320,000 during COVID right at the, right there. 320,000 dollars worth of gloves. So they ordered more. They order more, order more. They made it through it. They're selling to who? They're selling to baseball teams, high school, the Bruce Boltz is Massive, massive.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Like, I heard him in California, all the kids wear them all the Little League. They sponsor like Tati's for the Padre. They're massive now. They're worth $500, $600 million. What? So I go. What the fuck are you talking about? The son who started it, the son, his name's Beer, who started it.
Starting point is 00:30:42 He's the president. His dad's the vice president. The mom's, you know, run finances. The sister's head of marketing. How cool is that? That is the greatest story ever. Isn't that cool? That is such a great story.
Starting point is 00:30:56 This is, I go, this is the shop. He goes, keep it. Keep it low overhead, man. Because now we own this place. We run everything out of here. Here's we did buy an office. A huge part of scaling, like a scaling of business is where people fucking go bankrupt. So when you keep your nuts small like that, man, I love that stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Isn't that cool? Austin, born and raised. Love that. Austin born. And now it's everywhere. Bruce Boltz. And they did it just with a website. They just had.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Originally did it just from him on Instagram and hustling his buddies. that's incredible isn't that cool god i love that and they're massive massive like Nike's tried buying them out they're massive and they're like nope
Starting point is 00:31:34 they're crushing and then i got connected with them because uh the uncle who's also involved he makes like all the bruce bolt jerseys his son plays on lake travis uh i think they're obviously great gloves too batting gloves the best
Starting point is 00:31:47 well they're they're especially baseball so it's batting gloves hold on the reason i got connected with them is because now they've they've dominated baseball now they're getting into football and so we connected to they reached out to me like hey we'd love for your team to rock our football gloves first they come out i think later in october so our our boys be the first ones that have the football gloves so that's how you get connected to them so and the boys
Starting point is 00:32:13 don't know this so i'm bringing in bruce bolt gloves and slams on friday yeah wow that's cool so they have now they just expand and they make a lot of things yeah they're getting into all sorts of stuff i mean By the way, how badass is that? Kids love that. That bolt? Oh, yeah. Like, you know what I mean? How funny is it?
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's a bolt because his grandpa got struck by lightning three times. Still alive. And they work with big boys like Bobby Witt Jr. And MLB, Tate's. Like, they got big boys, big boys. They do it all. And they make baseball gloves, though. That's how he started.
Starting point is 00:32:51 They started with just a single baseball glove. And are they good baseball gloves? How much is a baseball glove caught? Just to Indonesia. they were just making them. How did he know what to do? How did he? Because he played baseball.
Starting point is 00:33:01 So he knew what he liked. Like there wasn't like any fun colors. There wasn't any cool designs. There wasn't good quality out. Like Nike makes them. They're all right. No one loves them. So he,
Starting point is 00:33:11 since he was a ball player, he knew what he liked. So he just did ones that he liked. And then they're really good quality, good leather. And then he does all the crazy colors for the teams. Bring up the baseball gloves. No, it's a single glove.
Starting point is 00:33:27 No, that's, no, baseball hitting. They don't make gloves. They don't make gloves. They just make hitting gloves. Oh, so they never made gloves? No, hitting gloves. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Just hitting gloves. Really? Hitting gloves. Oh, fuck. I thought they made. They are. Massive. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Okay, I'm sorry. I thought you meant, I thought you meant baseball gloves. I was like, how did he, how did a place in Indonesia? No. Wow. Hitting gloves. Man. And then, and he just made cool colors.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Cool color, but the quality. That's what separates them the quality. What is, uh, What are those? Yeah. So like Dexon McLean Jr., Harrison Bader, Sasaki, like all those are big names in the MLB. I never would think that. I guess you use gloves when you hit.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, he hit. So everybody has to have them. Everyone wears them. And then they match them to the team where they have like hot pink ones, like Fernando Tati's ones. See the Max Clark ones, Duran ones. Damn. Isn't that cool? Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's so cool. now the kid's 24 year old and he is bawling all based off his dad taking a PPO loan risking it all and how they all work for him. Isn't that cool? Yeah. And then what happens is people like like AOC will be like this whack, you know, multimillionaire. We got to tax a shit out of him. Like, do you know what he went through?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Do you know the risk he took, the ingenuity? He just came up with a product people want and he makes money. And they want to take, they want to punish people for that. They want to tax him 80%. That's, by the way, the social Democrats, just so you guys know, they would take someone like that and they'd go, okay, you make, you're making $100 million a year. We're going to tax you. 80% 90 million dollars for real because 10 million is planning for you.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And we're going to take it without realizing that when you have a business, you put that money back in the business because they're so fucking dumb. And they've never run a business because they're so. fucking dumb for a second time. That's incredible, man. That is an American story right there, dude. That's why I told me. I said, this is such a cool fucking story.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Damn, that's so cool. Isn't that badass? Yeah. Just saw a need. Saw an opening, right? Also, it was like, I gotta do something. I can't get a job because I play baseball. There's no cool gloves.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Let me see if I can make some gloves. Start selling those buddies. And just, like, contacted a factory in Indonesia. Figured out. Like, just was like, I wonder who makes gloves. Yeah, that's a smart kid. That kids, do these colors.
Starting point is 00:36:03 That kid's on the ball, by the way. Oh, yeah. That kid's on the ball. How about the dad? Like, if Tiger was like, Dad, I know you only got whatever. Bring the family up. Let me see the family, man.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's so cool. How about the dad risking on your 18-year-old son? You're like, hi, we got this money. It's probably going to keep us afloat, but. Kids are stud, too. They're going to bear mayor. Amazing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You know. Guard, yeah. Originally, the family's originally, from New Jersey. That's so great. He guards the dude who I know. So cool. His name is guard.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Cool. Cool names. Great name. Dude, that's so cool. They're from New Jersey. Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it.
Starting point is 00:36:56 He didn't play in college. He just... No. That's the grandpa that got struck by lightning right there. Hilarious. Isn't that funny? And then their logo was a lightning bolt. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I got to start playing baseball. Do you know anybody against privates in baseball? I don't. You don't? I'd love to get a private. Dude, do you know there's like a league? There's like a Drippin Springs Men League.
Starting point is 00:37:26 There's a Congress Men's League. And it looks pretty fun. They bring the family. They drink bear. Yeah, I'd love to get in a batting cage. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:37:34 My problem is like I can hit the ball pretty consistently if it's 60 miles an hour. Getting the bat around in time for much faster. You play one of those men leagues for fun. It'd be fun. Yeah. They have like proper jerseys. It looks cool. Oh, I'd like that.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, I know a bunch of guys that play in those. They play every Sunday in Dripper Springs. The kids come out, there's food trucks. I love it. They got sewn in jerseys and shit. I'd love to do that. Blow my hamstrings, but whatever. Well, you're hitting.
Starting point is 00:38:04 How's your hitting? Would you ever do a men's league chin? I did, like, I mean, now this age, no. You play softball? When I was young, I played basketball. I remember I sucked at basketball. I always always was the center because I was tall. They just passed the ball.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I feel like if we got you in a men soft. You could have some fun. I feel like if we got you in a men's softball league, you would never go. No, my friends had a softball thing. No, but I just mean you would not go to the games. You'd be in your apartment and you, you know, I love being around my friends. Yeah. That was our time to hang out.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But I know, but you don't have tons of friends out here. Let's get you in softball league, some drippy jerseys. Let's get you out of your band cake. I'll get you swagged out and Bruce Bolt gear. It's cool down a little bit of first thing, you know. Dude, it's cooling down. We got a fucking the, the day. Burkane's hitting.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's the first day that it's bearable. Yeah. How about that? Yeah, we'll see. And yesterday my kids had soccer and I was sweating. Oh, yesterday was nice, though. You had that breeze? Sort of.
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Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah. city the problem is if it gets stuck here then we get the floods got the floods then you get then you get some problems yeah get the old floods i find the rain cozy i'm i'm looking forward to it's yeah yeah i love that stuff i like it hot man i'd rather have hot yeah yeah yeah yeah i like a little rain i like a little rain for my fikes is but i like it hot i don't mind the hot yeah you gardener i'm going oh i need ray i need father time to fucking i need the big man upstairs to fucking water these trees really yeah yeah the ficus yeah yeah i get a piss so hard.
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Starting point is 00:41:35 Oki-dokey. Besides yearning to play an immense softball league. Yearning. Yearning. What a weird word. Yearning. First of all, do you recognize this guy, Brian? That's Bubbaugh.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Oh, damn it, Bryn. That's Boba Sparks. That's Ozzypic bubble sparks. He looks great. I know, right? I loved him. He's such a good guy, man. Is he, uh, how's his career? Is he rapping?
Starting point is 00:41:55 I guess, like, the last few years, he's starting to come back up. He's getting a lot of, like, his flowers now from other rappers. So who knows what's going to happen with him, but yeah, that's how he looks now. He looks great. Hey there, Miss New Booty. Yep. Did you make decent money off to Miss New Booty? No, I don't think I made any money.
Starting point is 00:42:14 What? Oh, wow, you did for free. Okay, so this is in the headlines, too, in sports. So there's like these reporters, two females and one guy, I think, and they're just talking about the looks of some of the NBA players. She's married. Yeah, one of them is, well, I think one of them married. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And she's pretty hot, too. Okay. So here's the audio. It's not too crazy, but. And are they on the court or something? No, this is like for like the press conference thing, I think. Okay. You know, they're always like walking around waiting for the thing to happen.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Oh, yeah. I'm like, I'm like, cringe. Gringe. He's like a look at a dude. Zach's cute, but his personality
Starting point is 00:42:55 just seems like he's hell of like a prick. You can't put it to me. On the NBA reporters might want to double check with their mics are off after this conversation. That's stupid. I'm sure they're going to lose their jobs, but it's like, if they lost their jobs,
Starting point is 00:43:09 that's terrible. It's just then. They won't lose their jobs. Probably. Yeah, yeah. They probably will. Yeah. You can't have that.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That's her? Yeah. Yeah. She's, Sarah Hodges has a whole husband, by the way. Stay woke, fellas. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:43:20 My thing is, though, like, that wasn't meant for the public. That girls talk anyways. Yeah. Like, that's just normal conversation.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah. It's not like, oh, I would suck him from the back. Even if she was like, yeah, he's hell of fine. He's cringe, though.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Hold on. What? Suck him from the back? Hold on. Like, like, you don't have to say from the back, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Why? You don't, because I don't want to picture her with his big, from like with a shitter. Yeah. And she's, so she's bending it behind this.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah, because he's a big old panther tail. So he's got a panther tail. So she's pulling his hard dig down, which is painful. Yeah. And now it's, it's going across his taint backwards.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And she's got her nose right in the shitter. And why do you have to do that? Yeah. Oh. No girl says that. No, they do though.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Guys say, I'll leave it out from behind. Girls don't know. No, why did you have to do that? If she keeps playing out, she goes, I want to siphon that cum out of his dick. No, she never said that either.
Starting point is 00:44:14 From the back. I'm going to siphon. No. I'm going to siphon. I need you to not say that. Siphon. Don't say siphon. No, I want to suck them off from the back.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Dude, if this keeps playing, she goes, I want to suck that sweet nectar. No. I want to siphon that sweet nectar from the back. Not how girls talk. And don't say from the back. Don't say that. That's news to me. God.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I want to siphon that sweet nectar out of his cop. No. No. That's what she said. if you keep playing harsh. All right. We got the TMZ version. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:49 All right. So here's some more sunny Haustin stuff. Here's the thing, though. So are you guys familiar with this whole cornel? What? How many milligrams? 12. It's hitting you hard?
Starting point is 00:44:59 No, it's sick. Spit it out then, Brian. No, that's okay. If it starts to make it. You swallow it, right? No. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I know we're not supposed to. Yeah, you are. No. That's what they're in design for. No. Yeah, they're non-spit. do they say specifically? You're just fucking with them.
Starting point is 00:45:15 No, I swear. You're supposed to swallow. All right. Siphon it down your throat. Are you guys familiar with the Cornell 7 situation? Yeah, back in the day. It was back in that far. It's like 24.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So it's a bunch of frat bros and they were cues of gaping. No. Drugging or drugging and graping. However, the initial statement, well, they're all going to explain it here. So let me just play this real quick. The statement that Jane Joe wrote at that time. Just give it to us in the sentence. We're not a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's several pages long. It's nine pages long. And I will say that under current New York State law, voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily drank a lot. She voluntarily took snorted ketamine off of one of the boys' body parts. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Even though she was highly intoxicated when she arrived at the frat house. She was highly intoxicated. But that was of her doing, right? Plans to meet one of the young men. She allowed other boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off of her body. Okay. And under New York law, voluntary intoxication or drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally constitute an inability to consent to sexual activity. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So that means if you've read it. voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol. Do them off of other body parts. You can agree to have threesomes, which in her statement, she agreed to have two separate threesomes. Oh, boy. One boy did walk in. One young man did walk in and say, everybody out. So there was one person that did that.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And according to her statement, three of the young men did not touch her. And so I say all, the thing I wonder something is, but I say all that to say, say the pictures of these young men who have not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered all over the internet. I think people are reporting this story inaccurately. I think they're reporting it unfairly. Well, this is something that we have to take very seriously. There is no way, according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would have brought forth the case. Yeah, but she was intoxicated. How did she? Under New York law, again, under New York law, Voluntary intoxication.
Starting point is 00:47:43 You voluntarily drink 10 beers and you voluntarily ingest ketamine. And then do... But that intoxication... And then voluntarily have two threesomes. So with six guys. So basically she thought it was going to be the one guy, then there was two.
Starting point is 00:47:59 She liked, I guess she was digging both. There's so much to this story. But ultimately, she, the next day, she goes, my memory's a little cloudy. The one of the guys is like... And they plaster the boys all over. and and and and they try to ruin her life and she said nothing illegal she literally said to the police i guess i do want you guys to know also in college campuses up until just recently with the
Starting point is 00:48:20 trump administration uh i believe overturned this if if a woman accused you of sexual misconduct or salt or whatever was okay in college you didn't as the as the accused if there was what's called quote unquote a preponderance of evans which means 50 percent, whatever you want to call it, there was a star chamber basically, people that kicked you out of school, and you weren't allowed to see what you weren't allowed to know anything about the accuser. You weren't allowed to see what they said about you. You weren't allowed to defend yourself. Okay? That's why. And 200 cases have been counted, all 200 overturned in court, because that's not how you do things. And now they're like, you're not allowed to do that. You can't kick somebody out
Starting point is 00:49:09 based on that. You have to go through a process of law. You have to go to a court. You have to see the evidence that's been presented to you. And this madness that's ruined a lot of lives. I can't believe you're spitting out. I can't believe that was Sunny's take. That's why I was surprised to. She's a lawyer. She's a lawyer. She's seen a lot of this stuff. She's absolutely right about that. Absolutely right. Of course, there has to be more details coming out to finally make a You get dumb dumbs that are like Joy Beard, who's a very low IQ. And, and Whoopi Goldberg, low IQ. But yeah, that was a pretty like on the point take from Sonny.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Is Whoopi Goldberg Jewish? No. What's your voice changed? I know, she changed her name. That's not a real name. That's a very Jewish name, though. Yeah, Goldberg is. Goldberg is as Jewish as a get.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yes. Not that anything's wrong. I was just curious if she's Jewish. Right. Remember when she was siphoning Ted Day and since come. Remember that? She is.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Hey, Ted. Hey, Ted. Yeah, right. Buddy? Hey, buddy. Buddy. You're the lead actor on chairs. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:50:18 What are you doing? What are you doing? Say what you will. She's not a very attractive person. Physically. Never. But ever. It's not like a father of time.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Never. Hey, Ted dancing? Very, very confusing. You've already made it. You do not need to suck on whoopi Goldberg's floppy. Let's not get detailed. But I worked with him, by the way. Hey, Ted, Ted,
Starting point is 00:50:40 great guy. You're already A-Lister. You're on chairs. You don't need to suck on whoopi Goldberg's big, floppy dreadlocks, right? Look, I don't know what get people going. It's a strange thing. But, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:01 There's an update to the Clancy trial. Hold up. Yeah. God, I wish this is. bitch would just go away. Just roll away. Just roll away. And ask yourself, where's the evidence that she did this?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Where is the evidence that she did this? When you consider the evidence that the government has, you have the exercise bans. You have the woefully deficient DNA. You have the woefully deficient fingerprinting. You have the horrific, ridiculous. investigation, using the term loosely by the police, there was no investigation. It was not even a horrendous investigation. There was no investigation. This entire case is based on speculation. Just just pauses for a second? She said she didn't. You can, you can, you can, you can, you can,
Starting point is 00:51:59 you can see why police officers are so careful a lot of times they have to go by the book. And if they don't go by the book, they're taught that you're going to deal with that. Yeah. Some guy who's going to I'll tell you to take the stand. Two plus two, guys, two plus two has always been for, but there is no evidence, actually, if you talk to certain actors, what is the actor's name from Hustle and Flow? He'll tell you one times one.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Not one. But even, too. But even Nancy's like, oh, buddy, I already told him I did it. He's like, hey, you were in the right frame of mind. Hey. No, I went detail by detail how I did it. Three years. It was three years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You don't remember. It's murky now. It's murky. It's murky. And I am not a man because I've decided now that I am non-binary and you will address me as such. What is you got, Jen? Let's go with madness. This right here.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Whoa. So there's a New York Times tech exec that was, there's a lot to this too where he was transitioning. Wait, he was? Yeah, so let's see. I forgot if it was huge. You know what? damn it let me let me uh there's an actual video hold up they'll explain it better hold on that's the same person this is okay so no no no no this is this is his mother-in-law oh okay i thought he transitioned
Starting point is 00:53:21 into that who transitions into a witch keep going yeah so this guy anyway he he had like issues with his wife that the weird thing is like so she was with him she got married to him while he was transitioning into a woman right he was trying to transition because he was i guess he was but another the thing said that he was born a woman or something so i don't know what the fuck is going on here so maybe this was a woman and now is transitioned into man i actually saved the explanations here hopefully it'll open up it's very interesting man you don't know what life is going to throw at you your your daughter meets a guy what you want it's all good though oh yeah i don't know man chin has a good take on all this stuff chin's like wait a minute like you you you imagine this
Starting point is 00:54:08 Like your daughter comes home with a guy, he's great. And all of a sudden, she comes home and she goes, we're having some problems with marriage. What's going on? He's just not communicating. Here you go. No. A New York Times tech executive.
Starting point is 00:54:21 God damn it. Allegedly shot to death by his in-laws in California. They look like hardcore. Oh, they shot him, him, her. That's another thing. They're in their elders. They're both like 77 years old. The ride's over.
Starting point is 00:54:38 They're like, yeah. Let's get off the ride right now. I got a jail. Hey. Hey, Janine. Come over. He's like, my name's Greg. Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Times Tech Executive was allegedly shot to death. A New York Times Tech Executive was allegedly shot to death by his in-laws in California. And new court documents claim he was involved in a heated battle with his estranged wife and her parents over his transition. The Mercury News reports that Jonathan McKinsey was fatally shot Saturday at a parking lot at a sports complex in Dublin, California. Police arrested Jonathan's elderly in-laws who were both-suffling California. 77 years old on suspicion of and other charges. Jonathan filed a restraining order in response to his estranged wife, Candice Jang, who also filed her own restraining order against him in 2020.
Starting point is 00:55:21 He did a good job transition though. That looks like a man. Candice attempted to yank medical tubes out of his body during his 2010 transition from a woman to a man. Despite this, the couple reportedly got married the following year. In the filing, he also said his mother-in-law labeled him a perver and a disgusting queer after they had a falling out over one of their grandchild's clothing choices. Oh, no. A couple also allegedly engaged in violent behavior toward each other.
Starting point is 00:55:47 According to the documents, the man claims his estranged wife whacked him with a frying pan and was verbally abusive along with her mother to their children. Alameda County prosecutors charged Jonathan. So, this is why it's confusing as hell. She was married to a woman? That's exactly why I did the chat GPT thing. Okay. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:56:05 So I go, was Jonathan a woman before he became a man? said yes okay right so that already shipped me out so he's woman to a man back to a woman or what uh did he trans back to a woman he was no he was born female transitioned a male lived as a man and then it says here i go do you transition back to a female so so so maybe the parents found out that he used to be a he's a biological female but also sounds like they're pushing that agenda on the kids too and the grandma-grandpa and then there's holdout. Yeah. And reports of abuse to the kids like he was a
Starting point is 00:56:41 of course, he was a child abuse. Yeah, but that's woman on woman there. So if you saw something says detransitioning trying to become a female again, I would, I'll tell you what, by the way, we got technology. Testosterone on that level really does turn you into a guy. He looks like a guy.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So I wrote I asked this as well. So says no he didn't meet her after he had already been fully. transitioned for years. They were together during the period when he was transition. Yeah, this is so confusing, but I don't know. Yeah. But anyways, the two grandparents thought he was in trouble, and they both, they both shot him. Even the woman. They probably were like, you know what? He's bad for the kids. We're going to go to jail, but this is for our grandchildren. But why wouldn't just one shoot him so the kids have a grandma, grandpa? Teamwork, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Teamwork. That's a little overkill. That's a ride or die for you, but you're never going to see your lady again. That's fucked up. You both go to, you know. it's not like you're going to share a jail cell now they're never going to be able to talk to each other no but I think both of them decided you know what this person's going to screw up our grandchildren we're going to sacrifice ourselves but it's kind of done when you think about it because now the their grandkids don't have either grandma
Starting point is 00:57:52 grandpa and they don't have their dad mom well so here's the thing dad mom dad here's not here's not how this here's how you don't solve problems typically you don't go shoot somebody in a parking lot in in Dublin California Never heard of it. I lived there for many years, never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It sounds like a fake story. Yeah. Speaking of fake stories, potentially fake stories. Love this. You saw this already, Brian? No, but I just love it all. You like the old guy carrying luggage? So this, apparently this was filmed by a neighboring woman that saw that this guy was
Starting point is 00:58:27 some old dude that still brings back, you know, airport packages get lost. So he'll deliver him back to their houses or whatever. But he's older. So he filmed them struggling through the stairs here. Last week, we told you about the outpouring of donations to a GoFundMe set up for an $8. $745,000 to pay for his wife's cancer treatment. Well, as Allison Hall reports, after questions were raised. For me, right away, I go, there's nothing in those.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Those are light. The way he's lifting those, those suitcase. There's nothing in there. He said his wife had cancer? No, a GoFundMe account that was supposed to be the neighbor that filmed this. I just know that in acting, if you're shooting a movie or a TV show, always put something in the... Prop will give you an empty suitcase. And if you're smart, you're going to put something in there because it's got to look like that because it's really hard to fake.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. Donations are all being refunded. Video of an 81-year-old man struggling to deliver lost luggage moved many Americans to tears. The GoFundMe site raised an impressive 700. than $45,000 for Donald Johnson and his wife, Josephine, who suffers from pancreatic cancer. But now a disturbing turn of events. Every penny of the donations that poured in has been refunded. And GoFundMe deactivated the fundraising efforts after determining what it calls factual misrepresentation. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:55 The video of Donald Johnson was originally posted by a woman named Aaron Howell who wanted to remain anonymous. She says those were her suitcases that Johnson was delivering after they had been lost at the airport. But Aaron Howell turns out to be a made-up name, concocted by the Johnson's daughter, Amy. I didn't think that it would be a big issue to put the name as someone else because she wasn't going to let me use her name. So I put Aaron Howell. Now, the reason I chose that name is, my mother's maiden name and Aaron is my middle name. It was an honest mistake. I, I, I, understand that it breached their terms of service. What did GoFundMe say to you before they took down the site?
Starting point is 01:00:36 So he really does do this. They said that they wanted to speak. So everything is fucked up. So he really is delivering. However, everything's supposed to be factual and true. But the woman didn't really share, this is what the GoFumme, this is what the daughter told GoFumme in private, that the video was actually shot by the daughter. And she's kind of replaying what happened.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You know what I'm saying? I got it. So it was a staged. Yeah, it was staged. Even though it's a true story. But he really does do it. Damn. And she really has cancer.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I have sympathy now. But in this interview, she says it wasn't her video. But then she told GoFund me that it actually was her video. So that's like it's, it's, it's, it's too much trouble right there. I get it. He's still doing work. Yeah, he's still doing the work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 And his wife still has cancer. Yeah, give him the money. She just wanted to figure out a way to go, hey, I don't want my dad doing this. My mom's dying. He's trying to raise money. Yeah. I sympathize. I sympathize.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah. Give him the money. How's that a story? Damn. Hey, dude, this is what's trending. You guys wanted it at the trending topics. No, I like it. I like the...
Starting point is 01:01:37 I like it. But it's like, why are people upset at them? Oh, because, you know, what? I don't know. Odell Beckham... You got cut from the Giants. He's old as well, but I'm pretty sure the Broncos picked him up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Well, I wanted you to explain this because obviously, me and Brian would probably not know. But yeah, he was cut. Is he not performing? He's just older. Just older. He's just older. He's a monster.
Starting point is 01:02:02 A great player. How old is he? Too old to still be playing. 33. Damn. Damn. That's young, Bob, isn't it? But how long has Odo Beckham been in the NFL? See down below if you just hit it, Jen?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yep. 11 seasons. A very long time. 33's old as fuck for the receiver. He's got all the money. He's got money, right? You would hope. Yeah, you'd hope. He'll find, he'll find, with his name recognition,
Starting point is 01:02:36 he'll find stuff to do after. after football, right? I'm pretty sure the Broncos signed him. Confirm that, Chin. Why do they sign him? Because of his knowledge of the game, he's still... Probably a leader, good locker room guy. Can impart wisdom to younger?
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah. 33, huh? I guess when you play that long, that's a lot of wear and tear on your body. I don't see anything on that interesting. Man, that's a ruthless game. With the way you get cut? Yeah. I remember the...
Starting point is 01:03:13 What a great run, though. Yeah. one of the best he was so good in his heyday is he good on the mic as well he is right I don't know anything about him but he seems like he's like
Starting point is 01:03:26 he's very very colorful good looking guys so women love him so could he do the whole pot you know everyone's going into podcasting and doing those shows I don't know I'm sure
Starting point is 01:03:35 all righty I just saw this but I didn't get a chance to read it because it just happened recently yeah but yeah I guess there was a potential hijacking the pilot was as well really I guess
Starting point is 01:03:47 It was a, is this really plain. He got stabbed. One pilot tried to stab the other pilot and tried to crash the plane. Why? Because he was, I think, Arabic. And it was, it was on, it was over in Dubai. It says the incident could have been an attempted September 11th style of terror attack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 They're trying to see if he, uh, approaching Israel. It's an attempted jihadist terror attack. Yeah. Wow. and the pilot was was the pilot israeli i'm not sure either way um interesting tried to murder the case of suicide but apparently the entire plane attacked the guy they were like hey no no no there is on Dubai because it was a plane full of Israelis yeah and there was some footage right instagram footage really let me see here of the passengers trying to
Starting point is 01:04:43 apprehend him yeah did the pilot die no this might be it right here oh there's after they yeah the gig is up if you're trying to take over at planes like the passion go if we don't do some this thing's gonna crash we gotta fucking roll yeah
Starting point is 01:05:01 wow and this is Netanyahu uh well hold on so I see this real quick they usually have security at least that one guy has its phone out pretty fucking scary hell yeah
Starting point is 01:05:24 terrible video yeah first class that it chinsster That should be it. Where are you going to be? Are you got October off? Yeah.
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