The Fighter & The Kid - Antonio Brown | TFATK Ep. 1059

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

NFL legend Antonio Brown joins the show for the first time. The guys talk Joe Rogan retweeting Antonio Brown's tweet, how the NFL got softer, the Big Game predictions, Antonio playing better when he was in pain, Tom Brady stories, how CTESPN started, Antonio marrying himself, current events and much more. True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpod JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

He's such a character man. You ever seen him on stage? Nah, I never see his comedy. I gotta check it out. I'm coming out. I'm doing stand up in Miami in February. So I'll let you know. Yeah bro. You sick of talking yet? Making the rounds? Yeah, just breaking some bread, podcast, cool people. Nice. You're hitting the good ones though, man.

I don't know if you have the same marketing team as Trump, but you're hitting all the big dogs. We gotta get you on Rogan, man. That's all I'm saying. That's the next one. That's our best friend. Yeah That's our guy. We're gonna do a February 8th. What's wrong with that? We leave next week. That's right. Yeah, I just got the Feels doing it he is It's gonna be good before of us and we just get wild we get why when is that one? We watch the Saturday we just Saturday. This Saturday? Next Saturday. Where at? February 8th. At Rogan's in Austin. Austin. We're thinking about moving there. That's a good spot right? Real quiet, calm, peaceful spot right? You can get what you can get for a house there compared to what you get here. It'd be dope to get AB on the companion.

Hell yeah. I'm gonna have to come with you guys. Bro. Yeah. We should just call Rogan. Get a little while with you guys. Yeah that'd be fun. That'd be amazing. They're the funnest ones to do because there's no agenda You just bullshitting right? Do you watch the fights? Yeah, I love the fights. Yeah, of course You ever think of that? I've always wondered like a like an athlete of your level to save that okay You already said that yeah, I'm on one time. He said where they were talking about you youth you boxing And you went, whoa, hold on, hold on.

Do you guys know how good he is? Do you know? It's a whole different thing. I think I'm comparable. No. Well, is there an athlete of his level, is UL Romero? God no. Two time world champion wrestler.

You have no idea what you're doing with it. It's a whole different thing. You like Jerry Rice, right? I like Jerry Rice. I like Jerry Rice. I like Jerry Rice. Yeah. Why? Better stats.

What? Who else you like? Michael Irvin. He's my boy. I know Michael. Better stats. You like Lomachenko though. I like Lomachenko.

Don McRu's footwork. I love his footwork. I love his footwork. Have you seen his ladder drill? It's not even comparable, dog. No, it's a whole different thing. But I want to talk about, it's not just talent, it's work ethic. We're going to get to this. Come on.

Come on, I'm excited. Oh, we're rolling already. We're rolling? Oh, we're rolling. I'm getting an education on A.D. But I knew that. Very special guest today. Yeah.

Making the rounds, man. Making the rounds. I always thought, it was Antonio Brown for those of you that don't know, I was just waiting for you to just take over the podcast world. I'm surprised you haven't launched your own podcast yet. I mean, we was doing a little something with CTSB but I wanted to make rounds with people who really doing, like my guy right here who started a long time ago,

just learn the game. I see all these athletes, they get done playing and they just hook up mic set up a backdrop yeah roll with it you know so just getting the educational part of learning how to connect with the Summers be consistent and well you're your tweets see the thing you've got is a sense of humor the best follow your tweets are the best follow the best so funny man like I don't know how you come out with a quarterback for Miami tie. Jalen Hurts.

Can never say his last name. Oh. Bro and he looks like the guy had a resort. All that shit is like high comedy man. Yeah I try to bring like you know, Briz the Gat one line. You know Elon Musk gave us the X app to really express ourselves so.

Yep. I tried to Briz the Gat where racism would just make it uncomfortable comfortable you know we got the crackers of the day we got the chink of the day we got the niggas of the day. What's crazy is all white guys want to be the crack of the day like all the white guys. Rogan won cracker of the year right? Yeah he did. That's our boy yeah I love it. This podcast is amazing man. And that's how big it got because even Rogan won cracker of the year, right? That's our boy, yeah, I love it. His podcast is amazing, man. And that's how big it got, because even Rogan retweeted,

it was like, it's such an honor. You don't Rogan, you don't retweet shit. Do you listen to Rogan a lot? Of course, man, he got a huge podcast, education was always a great perspective. And I feel like he's one of those guys who's just a realist, you know, he could actually be true to who he is.

Now a lot of people could come to a point and just be who they are you know everyone representing the brand or represents some type of so it kind of limit the ability of how true you could be or what you could say and I think Joe Rogan opened up those doors with just educational pieces or just making it uncomfortable but I but I feel like you open the doors because when you were playing you were always a character You're always vocal but not like you are now like do you like your transition? You left team? Yeah since you left the game do you feel we like oh I can take you know Take the pressure off and I can speak the truth because if you would have done this when you're playing Obviously different platform, but you would have been fined right? I feel like when you play football you understand you know it's not just about

you you know it's about the team and doing what's best for the team so you know as a football player is not too much you could do I could be expressive which may be scoring the touchdown or doing a little extra but even with that you get monetized, criticized, you know what I'm saying, brought down, so I feel like in a space now where it's like, you know, I work for myself and I'm kind of my own entertainer, you know, I can be more of an entertainer and bring laughter, or bring joy,

or bring that excitement to people, and that's what life's about as a human, you know, we all inspire by so many different forms of people. But you, I always thought what's fascinating is this, as great as you were, people will try to chalk that up to athletic ability. Obviously, you're a physical freak, but that's not enough. And I don't think you get seven Pro Bowls

and win a Super Bowl. I don't think you get to where you got without having, and I've read and heard about your work ethic. Like they say, nobody ever gave you that credit though. I didn't hear enough of that. Like they say, nobody ever gave you that credit though. I didn't hear enough of that. Like they say you worked harder than anybody. Like you were a maniac. I mean, that's what the game of football is about.

If you like to be a football player, it's not just the intangible things that people see on a weekend or when the game time. It's a collective of habits, a collective of intangibles of just desires, the battle of, you know, intangibles of just, you know, desires, you know, the battle of getting better is never ending, so it's really up to you, you know, your things you put together, your regimen, routines.

But when did that happen? Like, do you remember a time, when did you say, I want that, and when did you figure out that it was gonna have to be like a Kobe work ethic? Like, when did you decide that? Like, who taught you that? Where did you figure out that it was going to have to be like a Kobe work ethic? Like when did you decide that? Who taught you that? Where did you see that? Well I feel like you know, always growing up,

you know I always had to prove myself in regards of, you know what I'm saying, going to Esquimau. And then my coach in high school always be like, man you put me on the dog squad. The dog squad was like guys who just got in trouble or just needed extra work. But I wasn't none of those guys, but my coach always put me towards in the group.

So to me, I always look at it as I'd rather be over-prepared or under-prepared. You know what I'm saying? If you're ready, determine your outcome. So if you want to visualize, I think being an athlete is all about putting on blinders, seeing your vision, seeing what energy you kind of want to bring to pass, and then being focused on that.

It's a lot of negation around that, but if you just dial in on what you got to do, I feel like I just was smarter. I know if I played football and ran routes, I need to put myself in position to be healthy. So if it take having three, four Eskimo trainers or going to Eskimo to have my own team to make sure my readiness was ready,

whatever it took, and that's the part of just wanting to be the best. If you want to sell at something, a lot of time and commitment's going to be required. Don't you feel like now there's more Scrutiny that like the guys are judged more now because of social media like before like especially like in your heyday Which wasn't that long ago? But even five years ago

They didn't get as much scrutiny the shows like Steve Naismith or Shannon Sharp these figureheads out there that are massive have big voices And with social media like if a guy messes up, like homeboy, the tight end for the Baltimore Ravens, he ain't gonna hear the end of it. Andrew's dropping that ball, like it goes on for weeks. They're just getting destroyed. I feel like it's, like guys now have to be even more focused. They have to zone out all the negativity now,

little more now than when you were playing. Absolutely, because I feel like our eyes is on everyone right now at all time. You can look at a guy on social media, you can look at a guy without even knowing him and kind of make a genuine analysis of who you think he is. And you know, too much is given, rush is required. And the NFL is a job.

You know, a coma criticism, a coma putting your health on the line, and you just gotta have that tough skin to know, you know, that's what a coma with. I was trying to tell Brian too, like the NFL is different now. Like it's much safer, it's more of a pass friendly league, they're protecting their assets, you can't touch my homes,

certain guys you can't touch, the receivers, there's no blindside blocks, there's no chop blocking. When you were playing, I was trying to tell Brian, the amount of catches and yards you would have had, if you, like say you were a rookie this next year, the amount of touchdowns and catch, it's a, when I, it's a completely different game. It's so much softer now.

It's so much, like, name a, like, there's, there's defense of stars, not like when he was playing. Like the defense he was playing, different time, man. So when you look at his stats compared to the guys now, they might have more touchdowns or catches. You got to take into account. Bro. It's like Jordan LeBron.

LeBron played at a different time. It's just softer. Yeah. You think so? I think, yeah. There's different eras between different games. The entertainment is the comparables because it's all like We grew up watching footballs on TV and every household so it's like it's all will come a part of you

but the game never changed just the players in it and the players in this shaped the culture and Obviously, you know, it's a lot easier. Like you said like you as a defense alignment You can't drive the quarterback in the ground. A lot of things is different now to protect players because it's safety issues just for the career. I think that's a good thing, ultimately, personally. I mean, I feel like if you're a football fan, you just, football is known for the grittiness.

You want to see people get knocked out. It's football. It's fucking, you're so soft. No, hey bro, I'm not soft, no, hold on. But like, imagine like, like corners, like a lockdown corner back in the day, like Revis or Sanders or those studs, they were so physical. You bring those boys now, there's a flag every play. And that's what he's dealing with. Like that one-on-one man coverage, good fucking luck. new kids good luck. Mm-hmm. It's just a different game Because they want to encourage entertainment they want to encourage passing like the NBA wants three points

So all you see is it's rare you see a dude with a dope dunk You know you got that you got if you had to put all your money What do we got Chiefs Eagles Chiefs is smart bet right? All right, Chiefs the best safest bet Chiefs plus the refs Yeah, you know you got to go with Travis Kelsey Marion Taylor Swift after the game You know the type of views that's gonna bring I think he's sure why not why not why not you would just hear a collective Girls freaking out. Yeah freaking out. Yeah, you go

Have you get have you got any blow back for some of your tweets has anyone been like a lot of blowbacks? I blew bags they blow back people get upset though Like you have like this Shannon sharp reach out or has Jimmy Kimmel be like, hey man enough I feel like they reach out but sometimes they block me Antonio Brown. Yeah. I had to block a lot of shit out too. Yeah, of course. That's the game you're playing.

It's not personal at all. No, it's not personal. That's the game you're playing. Yeah, it's fun. You know what I'm saying? You know? But I was trying to be, too, like with the support of Trump, stuff like that, and that angle. I was trying to tell him like in the locker rooms the majority of guys are that way

Yeah, the more the majority guys support what he's all about They just can't come out they want to be they want to be like, you know affections beat themselves But they represent something that's more important to them to shield their jobs their careers But you know when you 20 years old 30, you're trying to make a life, you got to do what's best for you. And that's what you're doing. Yeah, I get it. You know what I'm saying?

I get it. Everybody can't have big balls. You got to have cojones, angels in the outfields. You know what I'm saying? You got to be, you have to. You got to be an outlier. You have to be so good. That's fine.

You can't have scoliosis. You can't have scoliosis. You can't have scoliosis. You can't have scoliosis. No, sir. No question mark back. I'm stealing that. You got scoliosis. What's the matter? Yeah, you have to be such an outlier to be outspoken. Yeah. You've always been that way though.

You've always been that guy who in the middle of the season just goes, you know what? I'm done. Yeah. Like I was like, sir. You only did it out once though. we all did it but everybody walked away for some shit New everything what's he doing? I'm saying my shit off, and I'm more see ya the game come to the end man I just say I want to limp out. You know I always want to just leave on my two feet That's such a I'm saying people die every day. Yeah. You finish your career, you feel like shit.

They left you feeling like shit. Your friends don't talk to you no more. That's real depression. Yes, sir. When you take your own hands, when you take life in your own hands. And really like do what's right for yourself. I feel like that's mental clarity

because at some point in the game gonna fuck you over. You know it's a game. Uh-huh. It's all good. I feel like you forget that you a number it's like it's like the barbershop. After a while your haircut done, you gotta get out the chair. It cares about you when you're when you're limping when you can't like when you're you're getting faint spells. When you're out of service it's like yeah you like a horse when the horse can't run you know what they do to the horse. Take them out.

I feel like young guys should know that like when you go to the combine or pro days That's when it hit me. I was like oh We're just yeah like property. It's like like this is like it's cattle. It's horse trading You got the old-ass stove. Yeah, but I'm like a new ass refrigerator He just changed appliances You know what I mean like fuck that man we are here Yeah you know I feel like you know as a players gonna come to a end but it's like as an athlete as a

You know anybody who doing something they really love and they love as a kid Because I feel like we are just a product of us ourselves as a kid You know you grow up living with things that you want to accomplish you want to do And then sometimes you gotta look at things from the realistic because you know you playing football is with things that you want to accomplish you want to do and then sometimes you gotta look at Things from the realistic because you know you playing football is like shit this year, man I want to win a Super Bowl compass this do this but then it's like you already did everything you could do as a player Yeah, and it's like yo what situation am I now? I just want to keep I'm got so much cartilage behind my knees Eventually go to breaking off now Now they stuck in your joint.

You got to get a scope here. Now you running half a knee. Now you, you know, now you 10 years later, you don't know to get your own MRI. You just think MRI is mean when you feeling bad, but you got to do that yourself to see realistically where your human body at because we ain't made this just. Your knees and head are not made for football.

Exactly. But I think a lot of- But my head is made for football. Yeah. Yeah. But I think a lot of guys- But my head is made for football. Yeah. Yeah. But I think a lot of guys don't know how to, they can't give it up because they don't have anything to move on to. It's like that was their dream since they were a kid and they just can't let it go because

they don't have another passion. It's scary. Or you didn't really, or you as a player you come in and you haven't made enough money because you got to think, guys are doing this for survival. Not only you go, everyone come to play football to accomplish their kid dreams. You know what I mean? I feel like it's a living kid dream where you want to

go to the NFL, do all this cool stuff, win the Super Bowl, make all this money, and do all this cool stuff. That's shit in slow motion, that's what I want to do. I want to do it all in slow motion. You all got that fantasy, but you know, it's some real things that come with playing football. Let's take a little break, man. Take a little break.

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football so many years and be healthy. How many, how many years you play? The juice is worth the squeeze, right, Antony? Wouldn't you say the juice is worth the squeeze? Like you have to do all over again, you're still gonna do it. Of course, man, I won't regret nothing, man. I feel like football gave me the opportunity

to challenge my discipline, challenge my hard work, because all that stuff was tested. You know, I go work this week, and I'm going against this guy, and I know what my discipline, what my work ethic, or what I did, and I could test the level of my condition level, how I'm running, how I'm training. You know what I did, and I could test the level of my condition level,

how I'm running, how I'm training. You know, to me, that was some of the things that I loved about life, is I know I could commit to football and be disciplined, and accomplish stuff that manifested within my diary and my journey within God, and that's the thing that gave me the most happiness with knowing, like yo, I set out to do this this year,

you know what I mean? And I manifested, I wrote it down, and it happened, you know what I mean? To me, just the intuitive of being a football player and creating that experience that my kids could come in and be a part of, see, man, I was at the game when my dad won the Super Bowl. I was in Hawaii at the Pro Bowl.

And I was with my dad. I got seven kids, six boys, one girl, and oldest, 17, 18, 20. How's that? Any kids maybe following dad's footsteps? Yeah, probably autonomy and ollie. Really? They got your athleticism?

Little studs. Yeah, they really stud. They catch the ball really good, make moves. I'm about to start training them now, just. Travel. Showing them, you know what I mean? Showing them what it takes to really be a football player. All the details, make moves. I'm about to start training them now, just. Travel. Showing them, you know what I mean? Showing them like what it takes. Yeah, all the details, little things.

Yeah, like having a routine when you come to the field, you know, knowing how to warm yourself up. Just the little stuff that make you great, you know, understanding why you got to exercise your legs, why is it important to. Stay injury free too, right? Exercise, all gluten free, you know, white shirt. No, I was saying injury free, like stay injury free.

Exactly, yeah. I mean, I feel like football shirt. No, I was saying injury free, like staying injury free. Exactly, yeah. I mean, I feel like football is all about, I feel like people gotta understand you don't need to go see the physical therapy after you get hurt. You know, you should probably see it before so you could lessen it. Prevent it. Yeah, preventative the injury because, I mean, playing sports, you know, it come with injuries. You know what I mean? You're gonna get injured.

So you gotta do all the right things. How often did you play with pain? Pain is a part of the game. It's like no pain no game. That's it I feel like I play better when I was in pain because you realize you got to trust your inner spirit No, you got to really trust God because it's like being a battle or a fighter or warrior anything you got to have a intuitive or you know, like Asserts part of your spirit is relying on God. It's like, no way, you a fighter,

you've been fighting 300 fights before you got to this fight. You know what I mean? So it's like, somewhere in you already established your spirit of knowing, like, man, I gotta rely on God to do this, because no fucking way I could. Well, you've also come up with playing in here, too. It's like, it's nothing new, right? It's like a part of the game at that point. Like in fights, it here too. It's like it's nothing new. Right.

It's like a part of the game at that point. It's like, like in fights, it's like, it's your job. Like in fights, it was like, who's injured the least? Like we're both injured. Yeah. You both. Yeah. We're both fucked. Who's last fucked? Who wanted the most? Yeah, exactly. Cause nobody feels 100% on game day. That's why it comes to your will. No, and injuries too in the football season. But I also feel like back to your journey, like your journey was so important because Mike Tomlin. Like I feel like it was a great contact for you, like that connection, you playing with Pittsburgh

and the quarterbacks you had. You stay in touch with Tomlin? Nah, I've already talked to a lot of people on sports. When you got a sports, you know, I just kind of get into real war and be a real person, but man, Tomlin was always a great leader for me, and a guy that gave me opportunity, I feel like he's seen, you know,

what my attention was, and gave me the platform to be successful, and I feel like later in my career, a lot of things he told me, like told me I probably didn't understand at that point. It probably made sense when I got a lot older, but he definitely was a mentor, a father figure for me. He used to tell me stuff like,

yo man, I don't really think you realize who you are or really understand who you are. Man, I don't think you should be doing these dances when you score the touchdown. But to me, I'm like, yo, I'm just a regular guy who fucking played football, man. I never. Well, he wanted to hear yourself as that. He saw greatness in you did maybe yeah, right. I feel like he believed in greatness

I feel like I always had greatness in myself because like as a player individual you gotta believe in yourself Yeah, you gotta see yourself Already at where you going, you know, cuz that's what kind of belief you got to have You know And I feel like when the Pittsburgh drafted me, they didn't see my greatness, because I felt like they drafted another receiver higher than me in the same draft, third round. Who was that?

Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah. So I was a six round pick, so to me it was like, they telling me, and again in my face, shit, this guy was better because they all picked him at a higher spot, and they gave him more money. So to me, I take it as, you know, I'm coming in a league that's filling to realize my talent.

You know what I mean? But I think that's good. Like that's your journey. You got to have a little chip. It just adds that fuel to the fire. Nah, I feel like you don't really got to have a chip. It's just what it was. You know what I mean?

I took it as... Disrespect? Nah, I take it as disrespect, because I feel like everybody make mistakes. I picked the wrong girl before. I picked the wrong girl before. You had the wrong girl before. You don't realize that was the wrong pick. So to me, I look at it as, you know,

as a man it's all about overcoming adversity. So to me I feel like, yo, if I could not let this situation deteriorate who I know I am, and that's what it come down to playing football, you got to have an empty amount of belief in yourself, you know what I'm saying? Because everyone's criticizing you. And criticism, you know, I feel like criticism

come with achievement, so the more I achieve, the more criticized I'll be. And you don't need to respond to criticism, you answer criticism. With success. With your achievement, so. To me, I always look at it like, NFL is a place that overlooks you when you first come in.

Look at Tom Brady, Tom Brady came in sixth round. It's not like he didn't know that he was Tom Brady. He had to know who he was, but it's like, you got scouts, you got organization teams, general managers. They made mistakes too? They made mistakes too. That's why Tom Brady, first day at camp,

he went up to Robert Kraft and he was like, I'm Tom Brady, best senior. They made mistakes too. They made mistakes too. That's why Tom Brady first day at camp, he went up to Robert Craft and he was like, I'm Tom Brady, best senior. Think of that confidence. But this is why I'm going to- Joe Burroughs that way. Sure. But he was the number one pick. Hey, man.

That's not what I'm talking about. Yeah, he's the number one pick, right? But what I want you to realize is how competitive. So think about how many players get drafted in those six rounds. Every dude that's drafted thinks their career is gonna turn out like A.B.'s. Everyone thinks that they're gonna become Hall of Famers.

No, hold on, it's not the dream. Everyone expects that. All of them think they're gonna be A.B. That's how competitive it is. And then those are rookies. Then you have veterans you have to beat out on that 53-man roster. And they have mouths you have to beat out on that 53 man roster. And they have mouths to feed.

And they're the best in the world. So you gotta take, not only beat all those rookies, you gotta beat out a vet to take his job. Yeah, I always wonder about that. Like when it comes to teams, you don't know who's gonna be gone tomorrow. So it's hard to get close to people, I would imagine, right?

After a while? I mean, it's like a job, you know? Yeah. It's just like a a job, you know, yeah It's just like a professional job man Everyone come together for the commitment of the correlation of the team to do something special To win so, you know put your hand in the pile and be part of something that's bigger than yourself but uh You know, it's me and team. We all got our own journeys of, you know, what's important in our own careers. So it was like, I feel like, you know, it's a business.

You know, everyone's there for their own careers and to, you know, be successful. So it was like. You have to because it's so cutthroat, right? Like you don't, you just don't know. I mean, it's a war game. It's actually, you could be here today. I could be going to get you at the other team next week.

Squid games. Did you, what were your takeaways with being around a guy like Tom Brady? Who's like an outlier one of one? I just feel like Tom was just such a passionate dude about playing football and he's loved winning Obsessed with it. Yeah. Yo, he was like like winning was just in his veins like yo He was making sure like his leadership was so impeccable just to make sure everyone understanding their role in regards of What we doing what we doing, why we doing, and what's the purpose.

You know, every day he made, he just, you know. So you'd come to practice with him. What was it, what was that like? Was there, was there, would he talk to you guys beforehand? What was the deal? It was just a lot of details. You know, details and just making sure you was ready to play.

You know what I mean? It was from your physical from your physical your mental preparation and he check in with you He check in where everybody may have personal meetings right after the team meetings private meetings. It's just he's constantly We can have a lot of shakes and shit. Yeah, constantly just preeminence But there's no other way. There's no other way really well No one's else is well the guy you want to play for like that that no he's overly committed for the purpose That's there like he's just needs to be sleep breathing it. Yeah, you know I mean I feel like he was a guy And I'm not disrespecting at all But I feel like he had to be that way and so over the top because he wasn't as athletic as like say like Josh

Allen not Tom Brady is really athletic man. He's really tough. His 40 bags are different, but I hear ya. I feel like back in the day, I feel like he'd get judged for, you know what I'm saying, the combine 40 times. Yeah, I think when you're coming out of college, he just probably went and trained at his college. They probably never worked out a quarterback who never had a quarterback who worked out, who went to the combine.

So you could, you know, some players get trained at the wrong facility and may have a bad showing, but the intangible of being a great player is just your mental makeup or really how you coming to work, how you get other guys prepared to play. That's part of being an athlete. That's part of being an athlete. Because clearly his hand-eye coordination,

able to read defenses fast from everybody. Tom Brady throws some of the best throws ever. I mean, he's not running around, but he don't have to. It's like he's playing the game above the net. Like the one day we were on, this year we were on the Super Bowl, I don't think he, but he don't have to. It's like, he's playing the game above the net. Like, the one day we won, this year we won the Super Bowl, I don't think he had an MCL the whole year. My dang. What?

Yeah. Why? So it was like, you know what I'm saying? Athleticism just don't come how you look and how you move around. It's like, you know, it's the intangibles of being a winner. Yeah, and sometimes you can't, like, you can't measure that. No.

Or how do you perform when all the pressure's on and you got 30 seconds left? I mean that's- Yeah, he's your guy. Decision making, you know what I'm saying? He's your guy. Mahomes just got that I think too. Of course.

Like that's what I love about him. Mahomes just got that, but it's like you already knew he had that. Correct. There's a difference when you don't know what a guy got and it's like, you're learning about like some shit you didn't think he had.

You know what I'm saying? But he knew he already knew he been had it. So that's when the guy's more scary and more hungry. It's like, yo, your kid, it's like, yo, if you got a successful kid and you're a successful dad, another coach is not going to probably coach your son as hard because he's like, shit, his dad's already there. But if your son's being coached by his dad

who he looks up to, now that kid got a different appreciate and a different hunger because now, it's not like he's getting coached with an expectation like he's already known. He's getting coached with a hands-on like, yo, this, you know what I'm saying? So it's a different hunger from a kid who don't have nothing trying to play football from a kid who's coming to play

who got everything. But don't you nothing trying to play football, from a kid who's coming to play who got everything. But don't you feel like, maybe, you know, I'm a dad of three, my boys are out there, they can't wait to meet you. But when, I was raised different than my kids, like there was a different fire, there's different hunger. Obviously, what you've done in your career and the sacrifices you make,

your kids are coming up completely different than you. They might have your skill set, but sometimes, like you're saying, the mentality to get to that level, the hunger, it's tough to develop that when their dad's AB, and not to mention that whole aspect of it, teach them that, I don't know how you're going to do that, but then also just the pressure of,

as soon as they step on the football field, yo, that's it, that's AB, that's AB. They already know how to do it. You know what I'm on the football field, yo, that's AB. That's AB. You already know how to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh man, that's AB's son. So there's a lot of pressure. And it's tough to, like you look at Michael Jordan's son,

trash at basketball, like in the pressure. Like he might have been good, but his dad's fucking Michael Jordan. So it's like a lose-lose for him. Or LeBron's son, that kid's pretty good, but he's just getting criticized non-stop because he's not his dad. So for your kids, it's like a, it's already a lose-lose form of LeBron son. That kid's pretty good, but he's just getting criticized non-stop because he's not his dad. So for your kids, it's already a mountain to climb if they want to get to Florida State, Pittsburgh,

wherever they want to play, but it's even more so because you're their dad. 100%. And that's why as a dad, you got to be more hands-on because being an athlete or being a successful dad, you're just thinking about yourself and where you got to go to train, what you got to do for yourself and sometimes you leave your kids in situations where it's like their brains are cloudy in regards of their own destination because now they

get reactions from other people about what their expectations for them are you know I mean so I feel like to have your kid as a great kid you should you got to be there hands-on to make sure whatever they want to go into, that you're a part of that transition because no one else is gonna be hands-on with the kid like you're gonna be. And how did you grow up?

Did you grow up in a big family? I grew up with a big family, man. My grandma came from Cat Island. You know, I grew up, we originated my family from the Bahamas. My grandma grew up in Nassau and the Cat Islands, moved to Miami, Florida, had my family. And you know, my family, my mom had three sisters and one, my uncle, my brother, my uncle, Uncle Cunis and one brother. So, you know, we grew up as a tight family in Liberty City, you know, and my dad was a football player.

My mom met my dad at Noah's Boys Club. My dad was touchdown Eddie Brown, one of the arenas these greatest football player all the time. Wow. So to me, I grew up, my mom loved sports. My dad was a sports icon. You know, I grew up idolizing my dad, seeing my dad, 300 touchdowns in the arena league,

13,000 yards, 900 plus catches. So to me, I grew up, you know, always inspired wanting to be my dad, you know, and growing up, I was the kid who had a lot of talent. My dad was like, hey man, get up there and do that backflip you do, you know what I'm saying? Or I was- I don't know one time seeing you run.

This is the craziest shit. You ran and like from the five yard line, you did a front back flip into the end zone. I was like, get the fuck out of here. It was like you had wings. Yeah, that was a good feeling. As a kid playing football, we grew up in Liberty City. We used to have like people throw away their bears

outside their house. They just throw them at the park. So we used to do flips on the low. little mattress springs just on the floor at the park. Yeah, do that backflip. Yeah, so. At what age did you realize you were an outlier? Do you remember, were you like, ah, I'm a little different than the rest of these kids?

Yeah, I remember like, just as a kid, you know, five, six years old, you know, neighborhood kids used to play football. And sometimes they're like, man, I don't want to play with them today, man. I'm going to just stay home, chill with my grandma, man. I don't feel like playing today. And I just remember my uncle used to always come back on the bike and just be like, yo,

man, they need you, man. You need to go play, then they waiting on you. Like, my uncle always used to come back home and just give me mad energy. It's just like, how the park need me. The neighborhood we playing against this neighborhood, like they can't win without me. So I feel like my uncle always made me feel like I was special.

He's your high guy. You know what I'm saying? So I always, alright man, let's go play out here. Ride me over there. It's just like the love my uncle got from just seeing me play football was like, you know what I'm saying? Then my grandma, like you left handed, you know just the encouragement they got. My uncle always used to be like, yo, you speak checks out here. You know, nephew is saying? Then my grandma, like you left handed, you know, just the encouragement they got.

My uncle always used to be like, yo, you speak checks out here. You know, nephew is big checks out here. We can, you know what I'm saying? So. So you already as a kid, you were like, you could make it all the way. Yeah, so like my mentality always was like,

all of it, when they asked me in elementary, what are you going to be? Football player. Love it. You know what I mean? So I always took it as like, yo, my uncle, my mom, my mom always talked to me about Shaq and his situation of being a successful athlete.

So to me, I always felt like it was my role to be a football player. But when did it become really real? You realized probably in college that there was no way you weren't going pro, right? No, I feel like I always believed. You got to think, when I went to college, let me tell you about college journey.

I graduated in school 2006. I went to Alcorn State out of high school. That's not Powerhouse. And I wasn't even eligible, because I didn't pass, you know, going out of, graduating high school to be a Division I athlete, you got to clear the house. Meaning your SAT score got to match your GPA. It's like a whole to-do list. I would've failed.

Right, so I had like a 800, 830 with like a 2.3 GPA. I think I need like a 900. Not terrible. But they gave me a scholarship just like, come on. I was. So to me, I was like, yo, listen, I just need an opportunity to play football, man. I'm making some crazy highlights, playing crazy amazing.

So I got a scholarship at Alcorn State. I go there two weeks, I'm killing it. They're like,'re like yo man we want to keep you here and still give you a scholarship you just can't play you got a prop I'm like man I can't be here at Alcorn State this is the damn bathroom on the middle of the floor I'm like yo this is the terrible shit I ever say. You got an outhouse you got to go to. Yo I got to go shit and I got to see Seven God shit I go back to the room and fucking smack the doormat. Like what the fuck, I gotta wait for the shit to end? That's terrible.

Bro, the worst shit ever. Not for you. So now I'm like, yo bro, I know I'm better than this shit. I ain't staying over here. I caught the fucking Greyhound 19 and a half hours from Jackson, Mississippi. Cause you know Alcorn, you gotta go to Jackson, Mississippi and take a ride fucking two hours.

There are better places than Jackson. Yo, that's terrible bro. I fucking. Wasn't your dream as a kid to play at Alcorn you got to go to Jackson, Mississippi and take a ride fucking two hours Your dream as a kid to play at Alcorn state, you know, I was just like yo I just gotta go play somewhere to change my life. Just got on a Greyhound Would you go? Hey, mom's got me a Greyhound ticket 19 hours to Concord, North Carolina Charlotte. I went to prep school I'm like fuck that. I'm gonna go play at prep school take my tests again So I could get eligible and go to college. And that's what I did, bro, I fucking went to prep school. I started. What'd you do, you just showed up

and said I wanna go to school here? Yeah, my high school friend, Lester Gene, went there because he was playing high school, he didn't make a lot of plays, so he was like gonna go get more film so he could go. So I came there, I played quarterback, I started. Damn, quarterback. Yeah, I played some film, that's why I played in high school, I was the quarterback and I returned the punts. Because I always thought I played quarterback. I started damn. Yeah place. I'm feeling that's why I play in the highest high school

I was the quarterback and I returned the punts because I always thought I needed to get the bar every play house I could get the bar replay So I freak around take my test. I get eligible pass my test now division one eligible come back to Miami I tell my coach just like 2007 in January Freaking and rolling FIU Mario Cristobal, the coach. You know what I'm saying, but I'm in Miami. You know what I'm saying, I go there January, boom, I'm kicked out January already.

I'm fucking kicked out. Why? Because he's Antonio Brown, he was just like fuck this. Nah, nah, because yo, I'm in Miami, you gotta think, as a kid growing up in Miami, I really damn near raised myself at 16 and 17. So really all my friends was like guys, neighborhood heroes, the guys who probably ain't doing the right thing,

they already committed to like a street life. So now I got these guys on campus at FRU and fuck. We just, shit just happening fast and it's like boom. Now it's like yo. I can just see you doing that to the judge, watch this. Now shit was just happening fast and boom. I never got, Excuse me. I can just see you doing that to the judge, watch this. Nah, shit was just happening fast. Nah, but I never got. Excuse me, young man.

I never had to talk to the judge. I never was a kid who got in trouble with the law or had to deal with no one. Too smart for you. It was just a campus thing, incident, when one of my friends who actually went to the school ran from the campus police. I went and we went to work out.

I called my guy Dennis and he's like, now the campus police don't want us there on the campus. So they kind of like, Mario Cristobal denied my admission, like I never went. And that same year I went, in 2007, I went to Central Michigan in July. Freshman of the year, did three years there and the rest was history.

You know what I'm saying? But Mario Cristobal, I know the story. I feel like it was just destined for me to not be in Miami I have to kill yes that get away from it. That was the best ever happened to you That's why you got family you got distractions It would have been that's kind of why fuck Darren Hernandez like he was trying to get away from not to compete him And then he's a fucking bastard. He's also was a

Hey, sir, I mean he is what he is It was just college Trump Trump said there's no more transenders. It's only gay if you're smiling the whole time. If you take a dick, you're gay. I would have to agree with that. Yeah, you did have a cellmate who came out. I was like, that's my man. Yeah, you got to watch the doc.

It's intense. It's super gay. A man has really revealed how you respond to adversity. I feel like we are facing some type of trauma. Always. So we're getting through as humans that we got overcome. And I feel like always was good with adversity. I feel like I did a lot of things that people may see from afar and might not understand because they don't really understand me

to know where I came from and where I put myself in this position imagine being a football player where no one else know you great But you but yourself where your cut your high school coach don't try to get you recruited Then you got to get your own scholarship to Alcorn State, Mississippi Because some old guy named Mackenzie saw a talent in me you go there and dominate then you like man I can't be over here better than this you believe in yourself now You catch the Greyhound to go get a better test score. 19 and a half hours, you're saying fucking guys,

get out of prison and catch Greyhound. I didn't know, I'm just thinking, fuck, I gotta go. I gotta get out of here. I'm seeing guys get out of prison on the fucking Greyhound bus, and not even realizing it's real. They go to North Carolina's Concord Prep Tech School and get my test score.

Go to FIU and got to go through more adversity and then got to go to Central Michigan to go there and play in some cold climates by the way. Again not a powerhouse but I think with you it's like whatever it takes. Yeah. FIU cool. Central Michigan cool. Yeah. Whatever it just give me give me the ball. Give me the opportunity. But, I think, I actually think it's a mindset and I think you've always had that mindset. I think winners are winners. And like, it's not surprising to me that you've gone from the NFL and doing

insane things and being this outlier, even in the NFL and now this seamless transition, just, just like where you're headed now, the second chapter of your life is exciting, knowing enough to making that insane decision in the middle of the season, you know what? I'm done with this. This sport's gonna break me and take everything from me. So fuck this sport, I've given it everything I have, and now I'm gonna walk away right here.

Pretty controversial, but I understand it, because at the end of the day, you had a second chapter that you knew about. But the common thing through all of this, he always banked on himself Yes, he banked on himself So maybe like I like I like I look at it like I'll see your Twitter's pop like your your ex is pop And everyone knows everyone follows it. It's huge. You got cracker the day my ex-girlfriend on my Xbox

All of it but all but I guess what's like what's the plan? All of it. All of it. All of it. But I guess what's the plan? Let's take a little break, man. Yeah, buddy. Now listen, we were talking a little bit. AB was talking about getting with some white girls, and if you're going to do that, you

better get your wiener on. Well, we were talking about just basically how I would like to be in that locker room. While he's on joy mode. Well, I'd like to... Now you give that locker room joy mode. I'll be there. It's not going to be... The measurements are going to change. You understand? But here's the good thing. If the boys are on joy mode, you know, there's no nasty side effects. It's all natural backed by science. It's just all it does is promote good blood flow. Good. I'll tell you what, you're not getting that

locker room if you're bringing some gas station pills. No, we are not up in here. No, but I'll tell you what, if you want to try joy mode, you can go to try joy mode dot-com slash fighter enter fighter a check out for a 20% Off your first order. How's that 20% off tried joy mode dot-com slash fighter 20% off your first order How about that kids? You know I'm saying like I'm sure you know I know some of your people like there has to be a plan because you have this huge platform Yeah, and like monetizing and like going this way. I'm sure you have a ton of offers Is there like in your mind you see like a plan for all this? Yeah, well, we really just

Serving our purpose and bridging the gap a Reversal racism is just how we make people feel we just want to be the Radiant of that energy of people having that confidence and making it uncomfortable, comfortable, and making people not just be canceled or written off. We teaching people how to have that courage, how to have that belief, how to overcome adversity, how to respond to adversity, how to not let people write you off

or deteriorate your character. You know what I'm saying? How to stay true to yourself, how to let the world beat you down from your beliefs to yourself. Because we have so many people in the world that's been deteriorated or beaten down or slandered. Or defined as one thing and then thrown away.

Yeah, and they let that stop them. They let that stop them from moving on. So to me, it's no plan. The plan is to serve You know to be the light You know we could if you could look at our ex-account and you could get a lab to get through the day Or you could feel inspired about an award that make people feel good You know that's what life's about as a human You also get back a lot like you see you raise a ton of money for the New Orleans

Tragedy like you do a lot of good on there as well. I feel like you know Life's about you know being a good person for the higher spirit You know I don't really need a lot of credit about what I do with who I am you know that's always to be determined You know I'm saying who we are today. We might not be tomorrow, so it's always Ongoing battle that's never ending what we can do is you know how we carry ourself You know how we make people feel and that's why Elon Musk is amazing Donald Trump is amazing the way he handled the adversity of the core system of being assassinated you know guys I look like

that guy's that guy to me what he was able to do and just keep moving forward they tried literally not just to kill him but destroy him I mean but that's what black guys got to deal with every day. That's right. You know what I'm saying? And I just like, you know, the way he handled it, you know, and show people how that courage, because we all, you know, dealing with some type of adversity of being distracted by the they or whoever the naysayers or people that's bringing us down or making us feel away. So to me, it's all about just being a good human.

You know what I'm saying? Ain't no plan to try to get no sponsors or- of making us feel away. So to me, it's all about just being a good human. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no plan to try to get no sponsors or. But you did grow up in Miami where there's that culture and a lot of people don't make it out. A lot of people fall prey to, as you were saying, I went to Miami-Dade County jail. I spent a week there

because I was going to do a TV show about it. I got to know a lot of the people there, majority black people, by the way, black dudes. And saw some guy get stabbed and you know stabbed and you get a very different sense of what Miami is because Miami is fun and it's got that Latin thing and it's got great beaches. There's also a side of Miami that's in need and the ghetto or whatever you want to call it. What are your thoughts on that in terms of how does somebody get out of that situation if they're not an athlete?

It's a mindset. It definitely is like, as a human you gotta understand, I feel like when you come from an inner city culture, I feel like you just trying to do the right thing. If somebody hurt your family member, it's the right thing to try and hurt their family member. But as people, I feel like we gotta learn it's not always right to do the right thing.

Is it more important to be right, or is it important to be happy? And I feel like if you ask people that's in the Miami County, they're counting jail, it's like, yeah. You wanna be right, or you wanna be happy? Because you're not happy in this situation. You know what I'm saying?

So. In other words, your culture might say you should do something, but that doesn't mean that's the right thing to do I feel like it's the right thing to do in that culture it's not the right thing to do in the in the broad scope I feel like you know I'm saying black culture is based on aggression and we set the culture or how people feel and but I feel like it's not a culture this is human decency you know how to be a good human and making good decisions

are human that pre-eminate putting yourself in the best position. And decision making is not a cultural thing, it's a human thing, you know what I mean? So I feel like we just got to teach people how to spend their lives and make better decisions and get a broader perspective on how to look at life because you are the product of your environment

or the people that's around you and sometimes that could deteriorate your life you know for what you see it as and what you wanted to be so I feel like and that's our jobs as leaders or people in position to teach people like yo it's not about being right man make it's about being happy cuz in this life we all know one thing we all gonna die die. So, let's make yourself happy and not put yourself in bad situations, because you feel like you did what's right. I think what's wild B is like,

if you look at that area where you came out of, have you seen how many Hall of Famers that came out of there? No. I feel like, that's why I started CTSVN, because I feel like most of the great people, like you guys here, it's so you all went through great trauma Yeah, like trauma brings out pre-eminate the best

Individual as a human Jesus walked the earth as a perfect man and deal with how much trauma Right people freaking nettle to a cross. That's right So it's like and I don't think I think that's when you find yourself, you know, I think Really believe as long as you don't stop. That's right. Like you like yours like your whole you talk about your whole journey I know so many people who would have stopped Like when you didn't get the right SATs or square like I'll just I'll just chill out one state. It's good enough I think that you're lucky. I swear I've said this cuz I'm older now I've said that you and you go through shit when you die, you die a couple of times in your life sometimes.

You might lose everything sometimes. You spend a long time building things and you lose everything. I've had that experience. And sometimes you are left in a situation where the only thing you can do is fall to your knees and look to the sky. And I'm really serious about that.

And I think you're lucky if that happens to you. If you understand how to navigate that shit. If you don't stop you got to Keep moving. You gotta keep moving. Yeah, and then you realize also that all like adversity everything is figureoutable and Adversity will make you a better person if you do that like that that because you get stronger you start to realize I can take Anything like you just you build that that resilience. Maybe Brian 70 Brian preservation look amazing. He got energy 58 come on Maybe Brian 70 Brian preservation look amazing. He got energy I can run some routes to I'm just saying I got some I'll cover you too. I want your hips

So I mean you got those boots, so I might have a chance You know what? What do you think what do you think you could run? Well, if you had to run a 40 right now in those boots Well, I don't have however fast I need to run, whatever. What the hell? You know what I'm saying? Whatever it takes. Only Antonio Ravina can run in those boots.

Can I ask a quick question? Yeah. So there's this little tiny ring on your wedding finger. Oh yeah. Look at that ring. Can we just, can you, you have something to tell us? Yo, I've been cheating on so much I had to marry myself. I was going to say marry to the game.

You know people don't love black people. I know they love black coffee much I had to marry myself. I was going to say marry to the game. You know people don't love black people. I know they love black coffee. I know gas is black. Don't even come around my wife with that fucking ring. That's going to make me look bad. Look at that ring. No listen. It's a big ass ring.

You got to love yourself. And in part of your belief system, you got to love yourself when the world's against you, people against you. You know life's about loving yourself. So buy a 10 karat diamond ring. I love it. Buy a 10 karat diamond ring. people against you. You know, life's about loving yourself. Who gonna love you more than yourself? I love it. Buy a 10 carat diamond ring.

Baby, do you feel like people are still against you? I feel like... I'm just making jokes. You want people to be against you or let you think it? Correct. Yeah. I just know I'm a gold diva, like black chocolate, gold diva. I'm a gold diva.

I know, people like chocolate. You know, I'm a sexy entity, so. Uh-huh, yep. I'm just saying I love myself so much, I put a carrot diva. I know people like chocolate. You know, I'm a sexy entity, so. Uh-huh, yep. I'm just saying I love myself so much, I put a carrot on my own finger. Put a ring on it, don't you? You know what I saw, you know what I noticed is, when I watched you on Hard Knocks.

Oh yeah. And what I noticed, it sounds like a little weird thing, but like, the way you, like when you, when Rich Incognito came in in and the smile on your face I saw how all these other people were around you like your teammates liked you so for me I was like this dude rich a wild bro rich a wild boy. How about this? Wow boy playboy mansion this is when I didn't really know who he was But I remember I shook his hand and my hand my fingers didn't go around his palm

Like that didn't make Samoans look skinny and so and I'm just sitting there He's got a shirt open and he just looks like a giant like somebody like shaved the silver back and then like made him pink Big dude just biggest fuck and this dude who is about 108 pounds. He was wearing like a tank top I never saw this he starts coming up He starts coming up to rich and saying shit and he's I don't know if he was on drugs But he's doing this and rich is like, yeah, you know, he's all like, haha And the next thing I know this is in the mansion the playboy mansion This is like a one is a homeboy picked him up. He picked him up

I'm grounded by the no risk of play and by that by the neck and just went he got him like that Pick him up like I'm not joking. He picked him up and and my boy Jeremy goes. Oh my god, and I turn I sit that's what I saw I just goes good and the guy hits the ground boom like that and goes Motion he gets up and walks away like this like a zombie He broke his back, yeah, Richie a wild boy. Nah, Richie been through it, man. I like Richie. Yeah, me too. Because he got a, he get a bad public stint,

you know, about how people write about him, talk about him, but he really a genuine hard person. Yeah. You know, I feel like with the media nowadays, with, you know, people being canceled, and people being writing off, you know, we got to give people, you know, opportunity to just, you know, be saying, be sane, be free.

Also people are way more, so people are a spectrum of a lot of different qualities. You might have caught that person on a bad day. You might have caught that person when everything's going bad. You can't say that that's who that person is. That's who that person was in that moment. Or you're judging them off their social media like, bro, that's 15 seconds of my day. But you and I have always said, when you see somebody who's accomplished what you've accomplished right?

If you've ever tried to be good at anything like to accomplish what you've accomplished is so difficult and it's not because you it's not always really fast and you can run it has nothing to do with it's dealing with pain it's being able to talk to yourself it's being able to fucking like when it when it really matters catch the ball all that It's also scary now like if you're a young kid, let's say you're 16. You put a poll Hey y'all my dreams make the NFL how many think I'm gonna make it you do a poll on Twitter on X or Facebook The majority like nope. Yeah You got it. You got to deal with it. Yeah, you know, so you're dealing with a lot of criticism

Is there anybody currently playing a B that you would say is misunderstood that we that we don't know that he's just completely misunderstood He's actually a dope person Not I could think of me. I can't think of any guys Sinai's can you I? misunderstood in the beginning I think you're Rogers understood here and Roger Lamar Jackson the beginning of the game he was super Misunderstood and totally off the way he looked I'm just Lamar Jackson. In the beginning of the game, he was super misunderstood and totally off the way he looked. I'm just being honest. Lamar Jackson? Yeah.

Lamar, I- He definitely one of those guys. Yeah. Well, I- Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I feel like Lamar Jackson has looked at us like he's a hood guy, but he's really like one of the hood superheroes, man. He really get a lot of slander the way he perceived in perceived in his culture how he dress how he shows up to the games Well, he's one of the two guys who stay true to the way he come from, you know, you know, let him deteriorate

You know how he go about the game and how he you know, I'm saying put yourself together He's also he's also like playing quarterback on such a high level. You got to be brilliant You got to be a running quarterback position. You got to be able to see the backfield that kind of a brain that kind of mind But but I think that's physical ability. Yes, a mineral right? Yes, I have a different mineral fortitude to know that you're the face of an organization Anything has to go in the direction of not the right direction is on your fault, right? But I also think when he came in there they're like, oh, running quarterback. It's like, nah, I'm a fucking ass, dude.

Of course, and then when he first came in, they minimized his role, say what he couldn't do, and they had to overcome that, and that's part of having that mental, to it, you know, the game is really played above the neck, and I feel like anytime you doing something that people don't understand,

they always try to call you crazy, or say you got CT or you a problem, but to be a genius or be good at anything you gotta be able to Handle things above the net see yourself in a different light because it's always gonna be scrutiny or Some towards you in regards of who you are what they think you are Why you can't beat is and when you start playing AB was like when I started playing like CT wasn't Like my son. He's a giant, you'll see him out there. He's a giant ass eight year old.

He's gonna play football. That's his shit, he's gonna play tackle football. And some of the parents are like, you would let him play tackle football? I'm like, yeah, why not? Like CT, like man, the majority of dudes I know coming up, majority playing in college, little bit in the pros, it's like, all of them are fine.

Like there's some cases out there no doubt and there's some horrible cases But in general like this whole narrative that the media plays like football so dangerous. I don't see it And I think the juice is worth the squeeze Yeah, I trade places you got some headaches I feel like you know what you signed up for me if you're gonna hit guys every day and Be the alpha male. Yeah, it's a war game. You know, they're up for man if you're gonna hit guys every day and be the alpha male and compete It's a war game. You know, they're gonna take the best guy you could be good today and then tomorrow I could be better Yes, what go what about did you ever have like you played quarterback? Yeah, did you ever think about defense too?

You could have been a killer corner. Did you just read? No, I was you know, I was officer skill man My dad was a receiver. Yeah, I'm about getting a ball man. Yeah Yeah, he was also a great punt returner, which helped me out. Thank you so much. And a couple fantasy leagues. I got double the points because of that. So, Nas, you're a big football fan. You got anything for AB? I think to me, I really want to know,

as a wide receiver, is that connection absolutely necessary with your quarterback? Are there days where you're like, I hate this guy, I don't want to help him out today? No, it's absolutely got to be the connection with the quarterback. As a receiver, you're only as good as your quarterback. I've been grateful to play with some amazing quarterback and Ben Roff the burger and Tom Brady, championship guys that are winners and not really efficient on their passion rate.

So to me, you always have to have a great relationship with the quarterback. If you don't got no great relationship with the quarterback, you might as well don't even play receiver. Really? Yeah, because they determine how you get the ball. The quarterback really could just get you off if you want. Because you know the defense they're playing. The NFL is like these teams are not switching.

Third down we know the percentage, they played a million third downs, they been doing this percentage third down. So you're going to get the same coverage that they seeing. So it was like, if your quarterback love you, he really could just put you in spots. And as a receiver, you got to be selfish because there's already three more other guys.

It's like, yo, I got to get the ball more than these guys. So it was like, yo, you gotta be selfish because there's already three more other guys. It's like, yo, I gotta get the ball more than these guys. So it's like, quarterback gotta know, like, yo, boy, I'm ready, you know what I'm saying? So it's all about the connection with the quarterback. How much tape do you watch as a wide receiver? I mean, it's all tape. You're only as good as, you know what I'm saying, your instincts and what you're seeing and your reaction.

You know, football is a plate above the neck. If I know third down, you're going to be covering me one on one at high percentage. So that's going to provide me the details on what I need to do in that situation to be able to make sure in that situation, the quarterback, we can make that completion because we know.

Especially guy from like, when you talk about being prepared, B. So if you have tape study, you're going to put the time in. Yeah. Well, I can't believe how thick the playbook is. You cannot be dumb and play quarterback. I mean, maybe some examples, but... Nah, as a football player, you can't be dumb as a football player in general. You know what I'm saying? We got a situation where we go no-huddle

and he just throw you a signal and you got to be ready to do. And in one play, I could do three things based on the coverage. Really? Like me an example. So if I'm at the line and it's like we got a 60 semi call so semi I was like I got an out route if it's cover three or if he off. So we come out and I got a semi bottom of the numbers and I'm looking in at Ben and I'm seeing the guys one guy here and one guy in the middle of the field that's one onon-one coverage. All the Mali, the coach know, I know, Ben know, the running back know, AB going go route right now.

So that mean the route is off. Right now I got a fly route. No, my route changed to a go-pac route. It changed just based off the way they're structured. Because now he's man coverage, so it's already implemented. So man on man, that means one on one and good luck. Yeah, that mean the outroutes out the window,

we're going up top. You're going, you're going, yeah. So iton-one and good luck. Yeah, I mean I was out the window. We're going up top you're going you're going Yeah, yeah, so it's already implemented in the route Like if I got a semi route if it's press covers, I gotta go if he solves cover three I got the bang post so now when I get to the line, I got three things right a maddie right there my mom I'm thinking about okay press. I got the go route. Okay, I got to get my release to the do you know the same thing? So so when would say they call whatever play, you know, like 94, whatever, Z drive, that play has seven different possibilities based off the way and everyone on the field knows it. And so Ben knows you at that stage, he's going to look at the defense.

They don't need to talk. You guys, yeah, you know, he knows you're going long. Yeah, he's already seen it. Yeah, he was, he's already seen it. So that communications everything. Yeah. You guys both have to understand What's yeah? And that's why defense is against Tom Brady because you're so good at reading the defense

I'm called that they would just stay in the middle. Yes, calm thought to play so it's one play then alert They come in this alert we got this so he got two plays prepared because the late They don't know you want for the first one alert alert now It's the other play But you'd have to know all that because the defense because he was so good at reading the defense If you just stay in the middle two things to be a football player Know what to do and being in shape Yeah, cuz if you don't know what to do, you're not good to nobody and if you fucking can't be in shape

Yeah, so if you do those full-time fucking's a full-time fucking job. Yeah, yeah. I know what to do, and you got to be in shape. That's just the gear. Were there ever cornerbacks that you would be paired up with and be like, ah, fuck. No, they're going to be like that with me. I like to see. I knew that was the answer, but I like asking questions.

No, but that's the realistic. But Antonio. But it should be too, because then this is, I'll let you go so long as I have this. But there's also like with Receivers they always get label as though they have the biggest egos on the team. It's like yeah, they have to man They have to you guys are you running all day and you might not get the ball and someone trying to stop you Yeah, it's like a wrestling match and it's like you can't slam them right now because the ball not here

Yeah, and there's a lot of trash talking right? I mean depending on who you is I mean if you like to talk to guys and... What are we going to say, Sinai? I was going to say, so Kobe used to say playing against certain other athletes made him better. Were there any defensive players that you can think like, they might have gone under your skin, but they pushed you to be just a little better? No. No.

I love it. Still no credit. That's the answer I'm looking for. I mean, I'll be as truthful though. That's the answer. I'm looking for I'm ready. I mean I'll be truthful though I'll be looking for good competitors, but You play get some good ones. I know but I feel like no one just really challenged me like that to be honest. I Feel like a Bailey. I Mean champ bae. I was a young player. I gave champ work I mean, but I'm an officer guy, you know, that's a defensive guy to like worry about stopping the guy

Yeah, it's his job. I'm an officer skills. So it's like you can't stop me. Yeah, you're his problem. Yeah Yeah, I'm the answer to the problem. Yeah. Yeah, you know saying he got a problem. Yeah Coming from Miami though, I would have to imagine the cold Yeah, how do that's gotta be when I watch you guys play and it's freezing, I'm just, I don't know man. The cold turns me into a coward. I feel like you go back to football players, all mental toughness. I feel like a football player is 73% mental. Because you know what I'm saying, just like everyone watching the game, they think it's cold.

So if you out there with sleeves on, they like, shit, you cold too. So if I'm out there with no sleeves on, you like, yo, he ain't's cold. So if you out there with sleeves on they like shit you cold too So like if I'm out there no seeds to you like yo, he ain't even cold. So it's all a mentality Yeah, you know I'm saying I mean that Pittsburgh snow is no joke Yeah, you know when you were growing up as a kid was the did you want to play at University of Miami? Cuz like the hurricanes the Mecca, of course, I went to the UM Miami campus ran 4-4 put on good shows You know, I mean by I feel as a kid, you know growing up in Miami is a fast life You know, it's a lot of distraction too much. You know, I'm saying I don't just live in South Beach Where is like a party every day is chill, you know, it's really grimy in Miami and the inner city

So to me it was like man, I just needed to go to college get out You know, I just need to get opportunity You know matter where I was gonna get my opportunity and do the right things with it to put myself in a good position And do you help players now like young players rookies or one or two year players? Did they when I used to have a gym and give back to players with training and doing stuff like that in the past? But you know, I just work with my sons man trying to give them the game I just work with my son's man trying to get him the game Seven kids starting my love's 707 Lee Well, we just gonna get some kids to travel and play teaching them the fundamentals. We're a couple current events. Come on

Yeah, I want to hear Antonio's take on this shit Yeah What's any other stops after this obviously Rogan would be dope to do you did feel I'm gonna go to the store Probably buy some clothes today. That's it. I'm feeling horny man some some long array come on Well, this current event is for you. Oh shit. There's a Mississippi lawmaker who's proposing a ban on male masturbation This fucking guy look at that guy. Hey, you gotta get laid, bro. You trying to ban masturbation?

Find another fight, this dummy. Now, I ain't gonna lie, I get to the point where I don't want no fucks. And I fuck myself, so I don't want to ban the masturbation. When I get alone, I go crazy. Yeah. He says the bill is legit, but it isn't too serious. What he's trying to do is bring attention to, like, concerning reproductive rights between men and women

and saying, oh, it's unfair. I fuck out of you. Sometimes I get that masturbation before the girl come over so I got longer stamina. Right, right. That's a veteran move. That's a veteran move. That's just being a vet.

I'm not hanging out with that guy. See that guy? I'm not hanging out with that guy. Yeah. You, get the fuck out of here. His nose is too long for the start. Yeah. No, man.

Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, yeah. He definitely got the attention he needed, but that ain't the fight. Yeah. Nah, man. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, yeah. He definitely got the attention he needed, but that ain't the fight. He's getting death threats. Yeah, oh yeah, probably from me. That's a, that ain't the fight, bro. No, that's not the fight. Like, I don't know who you are, bro,

but you're a square. What else you got, Jim? See ya. His Pamela Harris. So, this one's interesting. There's gonna be a new OJ doc. What else can we learn that we haven't learned before? It's been done to death.

Fuck these white bitches. I can't get enough of the OJ Docs. Don't kill them, just fuck them. Don't kill them, just fuck them. Fuck them, just fuck them. That's my favorite. Yeah. But yeah there's a new doc coming out and they said like it's really moving because

they have Ron Goldman's sister there And she's just bawling uncontrollably and I'm just thinking what else is there to learn like I don't know but I can't get away Like let's gotta stop bringing back old drama and deteriorating people seriously lives and story like Netflix We gotta start something go against Netflix cuz I'm just thinking Netflix is putting out information It's like yo, what the fuck is this even about? Just doc after doc. Yeah, it's just toxic. Yeah, it's just toxic.

Because they're desperate for it. They need content. Yeah, it's like we need to. It's turning into YouTube, man. You see the one more show. Yeah, it's just no substance. It's like, yo, whoever legacy we can tarnish next. Right.

You got any shows that you like the best? You watch any shows lately that you? No, I feel like we need to start getting into shows, probably just the target miss some more substance. Yeah. Yeah, how about movies? You got any favorite movies? favorite movies You mean like ever Right, I even been watching I've been just creating I've been telling my own vision to myself. I haven't watched a movie I really am and watching a lot of TV

What else you got you? This video is insane This is a Michigan homeowner who woke up to intruders in his house and all the footage Got caught and there was just gunfire going to him everywhere. It's in Michigan. Yeah, that's why I have guns When two suspects appeared on security video, breaking in through a kitchen window and milling around the house, his friend was held down at gunpoint in the living room. F*** them. And I woke up and I was just quick enough to react and grab my gun.

Oh, you got the fuck. That dude looks sleepy as fuck. I just sat there and kind of waited. I knew they were going to come to my room. As soon as that gunman came in mayhem ensued But you can't shoot Suspects struggling to leave the house police arrested the suspected shooter identified by investigators as Philip price now facing assault with intent to murder armed robbery and other charges as part of a 21 count indict on robbery and other charges as part of a 21 count indictment. Funny guns kids.

I have a lot of questions though. Did anybody take a look at his room? That boy was in the small ass like he's fucking out. And there's a girl sleeping next to him. Why he holding the gun so scared though? He looked like he got shot but he didn't. He was shooting like that. He's a truck driver. You got was like, he was shooting like that. Yo, he's a truck driver. You got a train. He was scared as fuck.

Yo, it doesn't need to be funny, but like, this is a real incident. Like, what the fuck is going on, bro? He got the littlest gun, he holding that bitch like, he know they coming. He holding that bitch like, they ain't going to be shooting back. He wasn't ready. Yeah. Yeah, let me see that again. Let me see his technique. He ain't even run outside. The technique's bad. The thing is, he was in ready. Yeah. Yeah, let me see that again. Let me see his technique.

He ain't even run outside. The technique's bad. The thing is, he was in a cartoon movie. Yep. He was like, he ain't bust that bit before. Yo, go shoot your gun if you got one, bro. Don't wait till one time to try to pop that shit. He was like, he popped it long enough.

We were talking about MMA. Do you ever watch UFC? Yeah, of course. Every weekend I see some UFC. I figured, man. Because every time I was with Marshawn Lynch, when we were at the UFC, and Marshawn was there, I knew him a little bit,

and I was like, I looked at him, I go, does this get you going? He goes, bro, if they teach me how to kill people, I'm going to jump in that. You can see that he wanted to get in there Have you ever do you do any training though? You never do any jujitsu or any of that stuff? I did just a couple training down at Fort Lauderdale right in the Aperture. They got a big jujitsu Yeah, I'd love to see what like a guy of your level like if you had started when you were like 12 He's like black guys getting sweaty. No. Yeah

Yeah, that's got real gay brown Yeah, dude. That's hot. This guy, yeah. In hot pants. In hot pants. Yeah, this guy real gay, brown, like mad, loves seeing some spandex rolling around. Just boil doggy. I want to see you break some ass, A.B. Yeah, or just me. I want to see you kill some shit. Or just do some light wrestling. Just some light wrestling.

You know, in slow motion. And I was speaking in the corner, man. Jack and Oli. Not Jack and Oli, because that's not allowed anymore. Because that guy from Mississippi said no. But just not for the entertainment. He wants me to be a demon. He love a demon mentality.

Get him, Antonio. Get him. Get him, A. him, get him A-B. You're so fucking strong. Could you believe Antonio didn't give me money for three months? Could you believe it? He didn't pay us. He's the strongest of all time.

Look at all that fast-switch muscle. Okay. Give us one more. So I don't know if you know this Antonio, but Brian is a very big new Chiefs fan. Ask him any questions he knows about. Listen man, I'm just saying. He's on their nuts. Nobody wants to give him any love.s fan. Ask him any questions. Listen man, I'm just saying. He's on their nuts.

Nobody wants to give him any love. Nobody wants to give him any love. And I'm like listen. You know when the Indians was rocking through the Chief? You know how many people didn't believe. Yeah. They didn't believe. Yeah.

Well, so. I'm just sick of them. I'm just sick of the Chiefs. Here are some examples of ref conspiracies that are happening right now. I fully back this. Josh Allen had that. So you think they cheated from Tom Brady when he was winning?

No man. No different. They were against him. They were against him. How about like in that Raiders game, remember the fumble? Charles Woodson lit his ass up. It's different. Nah, in fact, in fact somebody just did a whole thing about how the refs have not necessarily

gone against themselves. Well of course they did. You're on TikTok. So there's going to be two different things. That was a first down Josh Allen had in that. 100%. 100% was the first down. You think the NFL has pre-eminated the cracker of the year every year?

Yes. Yes. Yes. But do you, do you think that's true? Do you think refs kind of have? The ref is getting paid by who? The NFL. Yeah.

The players is getting helped by the NFLPA. The NFL is the business. The business is repeating the Super Bowl. That was the most telephased Super Bowl all time. We want Taylor Swift. There was a hundred million viewers when the Kansas City played the Eagles in 2023. That's what they want. That's money. I mean, what would you do if you ran a business and it was a monopoly, no one could compete

with it? You would put the best shit that the world would see. You think you want Buffalo and Detroit? No way. They'd get nowhere near theoli. No one could compete with it. You will put the best shit that you think you want Buffalo and Detroit No, I know we're near the views. No way no one there. So you're gonna you're gonna favor it. There's a subconscious There's definitely a subconscious favoring or no, there's not Brian And then business you just do what you want for business So you do think that there there is that slant? Why wouldn't it be? It's good for business. So you do think that there there is that slant? Why wouldn't it be yeah, if it wasn't that I would already have three thousand yards in the NFL because if it's been one cracker Who'd be like, yo, you my favorite nigga. I'm just about to throw you all the balls. I'm gonna play. Oh, yeah

You can't argue now you can't argue I'm not saying players don't gotta do their job, of course You still gotta do your job. I got. Of course. You still gotta do your job. You still gotta do your job. You get your ass fired, you don't do your job. You'll get on the microscope too, they're watching. But it is, it's a business, and you know. It happens in all leagues. Like the Lakers get more calls, because they're good for ratings.

The Dodgers, some of the most. If you want the team and you didn't want Tom Brady to throw the passes, you could just say, hey Tom, you're not going in this play. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, it's just a part of business. But Tom not letting you pull that shit off. Yeah, he's too powerful that guy Yeah, I mean he fucking persevered and he want to win. Yep. I wish you would have been at the Tom Brady roast, man I'm out of his damn spirit. No, I mean, you know, I'm talking on stage. I know man

You know, they want to show me off like that You know, I'm saying I would have been good should have it would would have been good Tony would let you Tony Hinchcliffe would have done it Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. He's a wild boy hit me down You gotta come to the show in Miami. I love to yeah, man Put me in the game, man Stash me away like a chassis man. No, I'm a man. Give me five minutes. Yeah, I'll give you five minutes Get up there. Yeah, get in there in there, man. You could do it. Honestly, you have a great sense of humor.

I'll get in there. I'll bring some good shit to the table. You're funny, bro. Is that it, chin snuzz? I'll bring some more shit to the table. You're funny. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

I'm not saying that. AB, you're up for the Hall of Fame 2027? Yeah, me and Big Ben. First ballot Hall of Famers. First ballot. That's amazing, right? Come on, dog. First ballot. Damn.ers. First ballot, that's amazing, right? First ballot.

That's impressive, yeah. You know I'm the number one receiver in still the history when I retire and come back for the Hall of Fame. You know I passed Hans Ward, you can look up the stuff. Oh yeah. Yeah, we're aware. You know I did it in Bretta Thoman too. Yep.

You know I did it. Look how he's fixing his coat. Yeah, Jay Rice first ballot. You know NFL is a competition, so it's like competitive nature. Of course it is. It's still competition. You're not competing. Yeah, it's everything competition. Yeah. It's like who got the biggest dick. Yeah, I can Jerry Jones. That's it. He's peckers checking

Yeah, he was into it right really he's lying Jerry being like this kid has a eight-inch dick you gotta yeah, you gotta bring that shit here Yeah, bro, I'm Jamie Foxx is recording on he was on FaceTime and Jerry Jones is right behind him And I imagine we're in fact he's on FaceTime and Jerry Jones is right behind him and I imagine We're in Peck. He's pointing out that he goes that guy right there They're gonna be bigger than testosterone. You know, you know what I'd be there. I'd be there too I'd do some this is why Brian can't own a team cuz you just have a team of all the biggest day Well, I'm 15% gay. That's the problem only 15

That's what happened man, yeah, well I get your. I'm just saying, all I am is I'm- DePore Brian Count. Get his dick back. We're going to get him more testosterone. That's it. Well, AB, we love you, man. You're crushing it, dog. You got fans here.

You can come back anytime. We've got a standing invite. First battle of Hall of Famer. Yes, sir. Antonio Brown, everybody. That's great, bro. The fighter thousand kid. Yeah, that's the fighter thousand kid.

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